Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies, Part I
Gene Spafford
Original-author: hoptoad!gnu (John Gilmore) and sp...@purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
Last-change: 30 Nov 91 by sp...@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
Introduction
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The Usenet software allows the support and transport of hierarchies of
newsgroups not part of the "traditional" Usenet through use of the
distribution mechanism. These hierarchies of groups are available to
sites wishing to support them and finding a feed. In general, these
groups are not carried by the entire network because of their volume,
restricted spheres of interest, or a different set of administrative
rules and concerns.
In general, it is a bad idea to forward these newsgroups to your
neighbors without asking them first; they should only be received at a
site by choice. Not only is this generally-accepted net etiquette, it
helps to preserve the freedom to do and say as the posters please in
these newsgroups, as the only people who get them are those who asked
to get them. This freedom is more restricted in the Usenet as a
whole, because every mainstream posting and every mainstream newsgroup
name must be acceptable to a much wider audience than is present in
these hierarchies. Because of the sheer size of the mainstream
Usenet, extra-long or controversial postings are more likely to cause
problems when posted to the Usenet; however, these alternative
hierarchies exist precisely to support those kinds of postings (if
germane to the hierarchy).
Usually, there is is no restriction on getting these groups as long
as you have the capacity to receive, store, and forward the groups;
2.10.3 or 2.11 news is required to make the distribution mechanism
work properly for these groups. How to join each distribution is
described below.
Note that the "uunet" service carries all of these hierarchies.
Contact uunet!uunet-request for subscription details.
Also note -- the lists in this article are totally unofficial and
possibly incomplete or inaccurate. I try to keep the lists up-to-date,
but make no guarantee that any of the information contained corresponds
with the named groups in any significant way. Corrections and comments
should be mailed directly to me.
Alt
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"alt" is a collection of newsgroups which are being distributed
by a collection of sites that choose to carry them. Many Usenet sites
are not interested in these groups. Here is a recent list
of the 'alt" newsgroups:
alt.activism Activities for activists.
alt.activism.d A place to discuss issues in alt.activism.
alt.alien.visitors Space Aliens on Earth! Abduction! Gov't Coverup!
alt.angst Anxiety in the modern world.
alt.aquaria The aquarium & related as a hobby.
alt.artcom Artistic Community, arts & communication.
alt.atheism Discussions of atheism.
alt.backrubs Lower...to the right...aaaah!
alt.bbs Computer BBS systems & software.
alt.bbs.ads Ads for various computer BBS's.
alt.bbs.internet BBS systems accessible via the Internet.
alt.bbs.lists Postings of regional BBS listings.
alt.bbs.lists.d Discussion about regional BBS listings.
alt.bbs.waffle The Waffle UUCP BBS.
alt.beer Good for what ales ya.
alt.binaries.multimedia Sound, text and graphics data rolled in one.
alt.binaries.pictures Additional volume in the form of huge image files.
alt.binaries.pictures.d Discussion of postings to alt.binaries.pictures.
alt.books.technical Discussion of technical books.
alt.boomerang Technology and use of the boomerang.
alt.brother-jed The born-again minister touring US campuses.
alt.california The state and the state of mind.
alt.callahans Callahan's bar for puns and fellowship.
alt.cd-rom Discussions of optical storage media.
alt.censorship Discussion about restricting speech/press.
alt.child-support Raising children in a split family.
alt.co-ops Discussion about co-operatives.
alt.cobol Use of the programming language COBOL.
alt.comp.acad-freedom.news Academic freedom issues related to computers. (Moderated)
alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk Academic freedom issues related to computers.
alt.config Alternative subnet discussions and connectivity.
alt.conspiracy Be paranoid -- they're out to get you.
alt.cosuard Council of Sysops & Users Against Rate Discrimination.
alt.cult-movies Movies with a cult following (e.g., Rocky Horror PS).
alt.cyb-sys Cybernetics and Systems.
alt.cyberpunk High-tech low-life.
alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo Literary virtual reality in a cyberpunk hangout.
alt.cyberpunk.movement Cybernizing the Universe.
alt.cyberpunk.tech Cyberspace and Cyberpunk technology.
alt.cyberspace Cyberspace and how it should work.
alt.dcom.telecom Discussion of telecommunications technology.
alt.desert-shield Events in the Middle East, esp. Kuwait.
alt.desert-storm The war against Iraq in Kuwait.
alt.desert-storm.facts For factual information on The Gulf War.
alt.desert-thekurds What's happening to the Kurds in Iraq.
alt.dev.null The ultimate in moderated newsgroups. (Moderated)
alt.discrimination Quotas, affirmative action, bigotry, persecution.
alt.dreams What do they mean?
alt.drugs Recreational pharmaceuticals and related flames.
alt.emusic Ethnic, exotic, electronic, elaborate, etc. music. *
alt.evil Tales from the dark side.
alt.exotic-music Exotic music discussions. *
alt.fan.dan-quayle For discussion of the US Vice President.
alt.fan.dave_barry Electronic fan club for humorist Dave Barry.
alt.fan.dice-man Fans of Andrew Dice Clay.
alt.fan.furry Fans of funny animals, ala Steve Gallacci's book.
alt.fan.howard-stern Fans of the abrasive radio & TV personality.
alt.fan.mike-jittlov Electronic fan club for animator Mike Jittlov.
alt.fan.monty-python Electronic fan club for those wacky Brits.
alt.fan.warlord Mocking net.gods and net.weenies.
alt.fandom.cons Announcements of conventions (SciFi and others).
alt.fandom.misc Other topics for fans of various kinds.
alt.fishing Fishing as a hobby and sport.
alt.flame Alternative, literate, pithy, succinct screaming.
alt.flame.spelling Fore piple whoe kant spel.
alt.folklore.computers Stories & anecdotes about computers (some true!).
alt.folklore.urban Urban legends, ala Jan Harold Brunvand.
alt.forgery One place for all forgeries--crossposting encouraged.
alt.fractals Fractals in math, graphics, and art.
alt.games.gb The Galactic Bloodshed conquest game.
alt.games.xtrek All about a Star Trek game for X.
alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark.
alt.gourmand Recipes & cooking info. (Moderated)
alt.graphics.pixutils Discussion of pixmap utilities.
alt.great-lakes Discussions of the Great Lakes and adjacent places.
alt.hackers Descriptions of projects currently under development. (Moderated)
alt.horror The horror genre.
alt.humor.oracle The semi-legendary Usenet Oracle speaks.
alt.hypertext Discussion of hypertext -- uses, transport, etc.
alt.individualism Philosophies where individual rights are paramount.
alt.industrial The Industrial Computing Society.
alt.irc Internet Relay Chat material.
alt.kids-talk A place for the pre-college set on the net.
alt.lang.asm Assembly languages of various flavours.
alt.lang.cfutures Discussion of the future of the C programming language
alt.lang.intercal A joke language with a real compiler.
alt.lang.ml The ML and SML symbolic languages.
alt.lang.teco The TECO editor language.
alt.magic For discussion about stage magic.
alt.magick For discussion about supernatural arts.
alt.models Model building, design, etc.
alt.msdos.programmer For the serious MS/DOS programmer (no forsale ads).
alt.mud.german For Germn-speaking MUD-er's.
alt.mud.lp The LP multi-user dungeon.
alt.native Issues for and about native Americans.
alt.pagan Discussions about paganism & religion.
alt.paranormal Phenomena which are not scientifically explicable.
alt.party Parties, celebration and general debauchery.
alt.peeves Discussion of peeves & related.
alt.personals Geek seeks Dweeb. Object: low-level interfacing.
alt.personals.bondage Are you tied up this evening?
alt.politics.homosexuality As the name implies
alt.postmodern Postmodernism, semiotics, deconstruction, and the like.
alt.privacy Privacy issues in cyberspace.
alt.prose Postings of original writings, fictional & otherwise.
alt.prose.d Discussions about postings in alt.prose.
alt.psychoactives Better living through chemistry.
alt.rap For fans of rap music.
alt.rap-gdead Fans of The Grateful Dead and Rap. Really.
alt.recovery For people in recovery programs (e.g., AA, ACA, GA).
alt.religion.adm3a Flaming the merits of the Sigler-Lear ADM3A.
alt.religion.computers People who believe computing is "real life."
alt.religion.emacs Emacs. Umacs. We all macs.
alt.religion.scientology Friends and foes of L. Ron Hubbard.
alt.rhode_island Discussion of the great little state.
alt.rissa Fans (and otherwise) of Patricia O'Tuama.
alt.rmgroup For the people who like to rmgroup/newgroup things.
alt.rock-n-roll Counterpart to alt.sex and alt.drugs.
alt.rock-n-roll.metal For the headbangers on the net.
alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy Non-sissyboy metal bands.
alt.romance Discussion about the romantic side of love.
alt.rush-limbaugh Fans of the conservative activist radio announcer.
alt.save.the.earth Environmentalist causes.
alt.sci.astro.fits Technical matters of Flexible Image Transport Systems.
alt.security Security issues on computer systems.
alt.security.index Pointers to good stuff in alt.security. (Moderated)
alt.sewing Working with needle and thread.
alt.sex Postings of a prurient nature.
alt.sex.bestiality Happiness is a warm puppy.
alt.sex.bondage Tie me, whip me, make me read the net!
alt.sex.motss Jesse Helms would not subscribe to this group.
alt.sex.movies Discussing the ins and outs of certain movies.
alt.sex.pictures Gigabytes of copyright violations.
alt.sex.pictures.d Discussing alt.sex.pictures copyright violations.
alt.sex.pictures.male Copyright violations featuring mostly males.
alt.sex.pictures.female Copyright violations featuring mostly females.
alt.sexual.abuse.recovery Helping others deal with traumatic experiences.
alt.skate Rollerskating and rollerblades.
alt.skate-board Discussion of all apsects of skate-boarding.
alt.skinheads The skinhead culture/anti-culture.
alt.slack Posting relating to the Church of the Subgenius.
alt.snowmobiles High-horsepower sleds in the powder.
alt.society.ati The Activist Times Digest. (Moderated)
alt.society.cu-digest Postings about the Computer Underground. (Moderated)
alt.sources Alternative source code, unmoderated. Caveat Emptor.
alt.sources.amiga Technically-oriented Amiga PC sources.
alt.sources.d Discussion of posted sources.
alt.sources.index Pointers to source code in alt.sources.*. (Moderated)
alt.sources.patches Reposted patches from non-bugs groups.
alt.sources.wanted Requests for source code.
alt.sport.bungee Like alt.suicide with rubber bands.
alt.sport.paintball The game/art/sport of splatball.
alt.startrek.creative Stories and parodies related to Star Trek.
alt.stupidity Discussion about stupid newsgroups.
alt.suicide.holiday Talk of why suicides increase at holidays.
alt.support Dealing with emotional situations & experiences.
alt.surfing Riding the ocean waves.
alt.sys.amiga.demos Code and talk to show off the Amiga.
alt.sys.amiga.uucp AmigaUUCP.
alt.sys.amiga.uucp.patches Patches for AmigaUUCP.
alt.sys.intergraph Support for Intergraph machines.
alt.sys.sun Technical discussion of Sun Microsystems products.
alt.sys.unisys Burroughs, Sperry, CT, etc. discussions.
alt.tasteless Truly disgusting.
alt.tennis The game & sport of tennis.
alt.test Alternative subnetwork testing.
alt.text.dwb Discussion of the AT&T Documenter's WorkBench.
alt.thrash Thrashlife.
alt.toolkits.xview The X windows XView toolkit.
alt.tv.antagonists Fans of the new "The Antagonists" TV show.
alt.tv.muppets Fans of the Muppets, TV shows & movies.
alt.tv.prisoner The Prisoner television series from years ago.
alt.tv.simpsons Don't have a cow, man!
alt.tv.tiny-toon Dicussion about the "Tiny Toon Adventures" show.
alt.tv.twin-peaks Discussion about the popular (and unusual) TV show.
alt.usage.english English grammar, word usages, and related topics.
alt.wais The Wide Area Information Service.
Submissions to the moderated alt.gourmand group should be mailed to
rec...@decwrl.dec.com (Brian Reid). alt.society.cu-digest
submissions should be mailed to tk0...@niu.bitnet or
c...@chinacat.unicom.com (Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer).
* alt.emusic and alt.exotic-music are aliased together at many sites.
You can join the "alt subnet" by finding a site in your area that
carries the groups. Either send mail to the administrators of the
sites you connect to, or post something to a local "general" or
"wanted" newsgroup for your area . If no sites nearby are getting
them, you can get them from uunet.
Bionet
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There is a newsgroup hierarchy for topics interesting to biologists
called "bionet" originating from genbank.bio.net and carried on a growing
number of machines including rutgers, phri, mit-eddie, ukma, and all
of the machines at UCSD. Contact Eliot Lear <bio...@genbank.bio.net> for
more details. The current newsgroup list looks like this:
bionet.agroforestry Discussion of Agroforestry.
bionet.biology.computational Computer and mathematical applications. (Moderated)
bionet.general General BIOSCI discussion.
bionet.genome.chrom22 Discussion of Chromosome 22.
bionet.genome.arabidopsis Information about the Arabidopsis project.
bionet.jobs Scientific Job opportunities.
bionet.journals.contents Contents of biology journal publications.
bionet.molbio.ageing Discussions of cellular and organismal ageing.
bionet.molbio.bio-matrix Computer applications to biological databases.
bionet.molbio.embldatabank Info about the EMBL Nucleic acid database.
bionet.molbio.evolution How genes and proteins have evolved.
bionet.molbio.genbank Info about the GenBank Nucleic acid database.
bionet.molbio.genbank.updates Hot off the presses! (Moderated)
bionet.molbio.gene-linkage Discussions about genetic linkage analysis.
bionet.molbio.gene-org How genes are organized on chromosomes.
bionet.molbio.genome-program Discussion of Human Genome Project issues.
bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts Requests for information and lab reagents.
bionet.molbio.proteins Research on proteins and protein databases.
bionet.neuroscience Research issues in the neurosciences.
bionet.population-bio Technical discussions about population biology.
bionet.sci-resources Information about funding agencies, etc.
bionet.software Information about software for biology.
bionet.software.sources Software Source relating to biology. (Moderated)
bionet.users.addresses Who's who in Biology.
Submissions to bionet.software.sources should be mailed to
software...@genbank.bio.net (Eliot Lear).
Bit
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"bit" is a collection of newsgroups which are being distributed by a
collection of sites that choose to carry them. The "bit" newsgroups are
redistributions of the more popular BitNet LISTSERV mailing lists. Here
is a list of the "bit" newsgroups:
bit.admin bit. Newgroups Discussions.
bit.general Discussions Relating to BitNet/Usenet.
bit.listserv.advise-l User Services List.
bit.listserv.advanc-l Geac Advanced Integrated Library System Users.
bit.listserv.aix-l IBM AIX Discussion List.
bit.listserv.allmusic Discussions on all forms of Music.
bit.listserv.apple2-l Apple II List.
bit.listserv.applicat Applications under BITNET.
bit.listserv.asm370 IBM 370 Assembly Programming Discuss.
bit.listserv.banyan-l Banyan Vines Network Software Discussions.
bit.listserv.big-lan Campus-Size LAN Discussion Group. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.billing Chargeback of (computer) resources.
bit.listserv.biosph-l Biosphere, ecology, Discussion List.
bit.listserv.bitnews BITNET News.
bit.listserv.candle-l Candle Products Discussion List.
bit.listserv.cdromlan CD-ROM on Local Area Networks.
bit.listserv.christia Practical Christian Life.
bit.listserv.cics-l CICS Discussion List.
bit.listserv.cinema-l Discussions on all forms of Cinema.
bit.listserv.circplus Circulation Reserve and Related Library Issues.
bit.listserv.cmspip-l VM/SP CMS Pipelines Discussion List.
bit.listserv.commed Communication education.
bit.listserv.cumrec-l CUMREC-L Administrative computer use.
bit.listserv.cwis-l Campus-Wide Information Systems.
bit.listserv.cyber-l CDC Computer Discussion.
bit.listserv.c18-l 18th Century Interdisciplinary Discussion.
bit.listserv.c370-l C/370 Discussion List.
bit.listserv.dbase-l Discussion on the use of the dBase IV.
bit.listserv.db2-l DB2 Data Base Discussion List.
bit.listserv.disarm-l Disarmament Discussion List.
bit.listserv.domain-l Domains Discussion Group.
bit.listserv.earntech EARN Technical Group.
bit.listserv.edi-l Electronic Data Interchange Issues.
bit.listserv.edpolyan Professionals and Students Discussing Education.
bit.listserv.edtech EDTECH - Educational Technology. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.emusic-l Electronic Music Discussion List.
bit.listserv.envbeh-l Forum on Environment and Human Behavior.
bit.listserv.erl-l Educational Research List (TCSVM).
bit.listserv.esl-l DECUS Education Software Library Discussion L.
bit.listserv.ethics-l Discussion of Ethics in Computing.
bit.listserv.ethology Ethology List.
bit.listserv.film-l Film making and reviews List.
bit.listserv.fnord-l New Ways of Thinking List.
bit.listserv.frac-l FRACTAL Discussion List.
bit.listserv.games-l Computer Games List.
bit.listserv.gaynet GayNet Discussion List. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.gddm-l The GDDM Discussion List.
bit.listserv.geodesic List for the Discussion of Buckminster Fuller.
bit.listserv.gguide BITNIC GGUIDE List.
bit.listserv.gis-l Geographic Information Systems Discussion List.
bit.listserv.govdoc-l Discussion of Government Document Is.
bit.listserv.gutnberg GUTNBERG Discussion List.
bit.listserv.hellas The Hellenic Discussion List. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.history History.
bit.listserv.i-amiga Info-Amiga List.
bit.listserv.ibm-hesc IBM Higher Education Consortium.
bit.listserv.ibm-main IBM Mainframe Discussion List.
bit.listserv.ibm-nets BITNIC IBM-NETS List.
bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l IBM TCP/IP List.
bit.listserv.ibm7171 Protocol Converter List.
bit.listserv.icu-l Instruction Computing Update Newsletter List.
bit.listserv.info-gcg INFO-GCG: GCG Genetics Software Discussion.
bit.listserv.infonets Infonets Redistribution.
bit.listserv.ingrafx Information Graphics.
bit.listserv.innopac Innovative Interfaces Public Access Catalog.
bit.listserv.ioob-l Industrial Psychology.
bit.listserv.isn ISN Data Switch Technical Discussion Group.
bit.listserv.jes2-l JES2 Discussion group.
bit.listserv.jnet-l BITNIC JNET-L List.
bit.listserv.l-hcap Handicap List. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.l-vmctr VMCENTER Components Discussion List.
bit.listserv.lawsch-l Law School Discussion List.
bit.listserv.liaison BITNIC LIAISON.
bit.listserv.license Software Licensing List.
bit.listserv.linkfail Link failure announcements.
bit.listserv.literary Discussions about Literature.
bit.listserv.lstsrv-l Forum on LISTSERV release 1.6.
bit.listserv.mail-l BITNIC MAIL-L List.
bit.listserv.mailbook MAIL/MAILBOOK subscription List.
bit.listserv.mba-l MBA Student curriculum Discussion.
bit.listserv.mbu-l Megabyte University (Computers & Writing).
bit.listserv.medlib-l Medical Libraries Discussion List.
bit.listserv.mednews MEDNEWS - Health Info-Com Network Newsletter.
bit.listserv.netnws-l NETNWS-L Netnews List.
bit.listserv.new-list NEW-LIST - New List Announcements. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.next-l NeXT Computer List.
bit.listserv.nodmgt-l Node Management.
bit.listserv.notis-l NOTIS/DOBIS Discussion group List.
bit.listserv.novell Novell LAN Interest Group.
bit.listserv.omrscan OMR Scanner Discussion.
bit.listserv.ozone OZONE Discussion List.
bit.listserv.pacs-l Public-Access Computer System Forum. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.page-l IBM 3812/3820 Tips and Problems Discussion List.
bit.listserv.pagemakr PageMaker for Desktop Publishers.
bit.listserv.pmdf-l PMDF Distribution List.
bit.listserv.politics Forum for the Discussion of Politics.
bit.listserv.power-l POWER-L IBM RS/6000 POWER Family.
bit.listserv.rscs-l VM/RSCS Mailing List.
bit.listserv.relusr-l Relay Users Forum.
bit.listserv.rexxlist REXX Programming Discussion List.
bit.listserv.rhetoric Rhetoric, social movements, persuasion.
bit.listserv.rscsmods The RSCS modifications List.
bit.listserv.s-comput SuperComputers List (USCVM).
bit.listserv.sas-l SAS(r) Discussion.
bit.listserv.script-l IBM vs Waterloo SCRIPT Discussion Group.
bit.listserv.scuba-l Scuba diving Discussion List.
bit.listserv.sganet Student Government Global Mail Network.
bit.listserv.simula The SIMULA Language List.
bit.listserv.slart-l SLA Research and Teaching.
bit.listserv.snamgt-l SNA Network Management Discussion.
bit.listserv.sos-data Social Science Data List.
bit.listserv.spires-l SPIRES Conference List.
bit.listserv.sportpsy Exercise and Sports Psychology.
bit.listserv.spssx-l SPSSX(r) Discussion.
bit.listserv.sqlinfo Forum for SQL/DS and Related Topics.
bit.listserv.stat-l STATISTICAL CONSULTING.
bit.listserv.tech-l BITNIC TECH-L List.
bit.listserv.test Test Newsgroup.
bit.listserv.tex-l The TeXnical topics List.
bit.listserv.tn3270-l tn3270 protocol Discussion List.
bit.listserv.trans-l BITNIC TRANS-L List.
bit.listserv.travel-l Tourism Discussions.
bit.listserv.ucp-l University Computing Project Mailing List.
bit.listserv.ug-l Usage Guidelines.
bit.listserv.uigis-l User Interface for Geographical Info Systems.
bit.listserv.urep-l UREP-L Mailing List.
bit.listserv.usrdir-l User Directory List.
bit.listserv.valert-l Virus Alert List. (Moderated)
bit.listserv.vfort-l VS-Fortran Discussion List.
bit.listserv.vm-util VM Utilities Discussion List.
bit.listserv.vmesa-l VM/ESA Mailing List.
bit.listserv.vmslsv-l VAX/VMS LISTSERV Discussion List.
bit.listserv.vmxa-l VM/XA Discussion List.
bit.listserv.vnews-l VNEWS Discussion List.
bit.listserv.win3-l Microsoft Windows Version 3 Forum.
bit.listserv.words-l English Language Discussion Group.
bit.listserv.wp50-l WordPerfect Corporation Products Discussions.
bit.listserv.xcult-l International Intercultural Newsletter.
bit.listserv.xedit-l VM System Editor List.
bit.listserv.xerox-l The Xerox Discussion List.
bit.listserv.xmailer Crosswell Mailer.
bit.listserv.x400-l x.400 Protocol List.
bit.listserv.9370-l IBM 9370 and VM/IS specific topics List.
bit.mailserv.word-mac Word Processing on the Macintosh.
bit.mailserv.word-pc Word Processing on the IBM PC.
Biz
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"Biz" is a distribution of newsgroups that are carried and propagated
by sites interested in the world of business products around them -- in
particular, computer products and services. This includes product
announcements, announcements of fixes and enhancements, product
reviews, and postings of demo software. Current biz groups include:
biz.clarinet Announcements about ClariNet.
biz.clarinet.sample Samples of ClariNet newsgroups for the outside world.
biz.comp.hardware Generic commercial hardware postings.
biz.comp.services Generic commercial service postings.
biz.comp.software Generic commercial software postings.
biz.comp.telebit Support of the Telebit modem.
biz.comp.telebit.netblazer The Telebit Netblazer.
biz.config Biz Usenet configuration and administration.
biz.control Control information and messages.
biz.dec DEC equipment & software.
biz.dec.ip IP networking on DEC machines.
biz.dec.workstations DEC workstation discussions & info.
biz.jobs.offered Position announcements.
biz.misc Miscellaneous postings of a commercial nature.
biz.sco.announce SCO and related product announcements. (Moderated)
biz.sco.general Q&A, discussions and comments on SCO products.
biz.sco.opendesktop ODT environment and applications tech info, q&a.
biz.test Biz newsgroup test messages.
biz.stolen Postings about stolen merchandise.
Feeds may possibly be obtained from ddsw1.mcs.com, husc6.harvard.edu,
rpi.edu, rutgers.edu, spl1, and telly.on.ca among others.
--
Gene Spafford
NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center,
Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-1398
Internet: sp...@cs.purdue.edu phone: (317) 494-7825