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Paul Cummins

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Apr 30, 2002, 12:02:00 AM4/30/02
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In article <asqqcuc6fumluenuk...@4ax.com>, Richard Ashton
wrote:

> |On efficency, Paul said, "Our current tests are catching over 90% of
> spam |on our beta-tester's networks, and we hope that by incorporating
> SPEWS and |Spamcop lookups within one list, we can increase this to 98%
> reduction."
>
> Do SPEWS and Spamcop know yet ?

Why not ask them?

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Paul C. Dickie

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Apr 30, 2002, 4:42:51 AM4/30/02
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In article <memo.2002043...@paul.gst-group.co.uk>, Paul
Cummins <lis...@dsbl.org> writes
>Path: news.demon.co.uk!demon!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!easynet-
>monga!easynet.net!news.ebone.net!news1.ebone.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-
^^^^^
How apt!

>berlin.de!217.169.3.18!not-for-mail
>From: lis...@dsbl.org (Paul Cummins)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Isn't that just a tad naughty, or is entrapment considered reasonable?

>Paul Cummins - Always a Nethead, Wasting bandwidth since 1981

... when he used two empty baked-bean cans and a length of soggy string.

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Rob Partington

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Apr 30, 2002, 6:46:18 AM4/30/02
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:42:51 +0100,
Paul C. Dickie <p...@bozzie.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Path: news.demon.co.uk!demon!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!easynet-
>>monga!easynet.net!news.ebone.net!news1.ebone.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-
> ^^^^^
> How apt!

What's my news feeder got to do with anything?
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James Coupe

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Apr 30, 2002, 7:50:58 AM4/30/02
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In message <wwvznzl...@rjk.greenend.org.uk>, Richard Kettlewell
<inv...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>Richard Ashton <'{R}'@semolina.org> writes:
>> Surely you don't expect an upright responsible Netizen to deliberately set a
>> trap so that anyone emailing him automatically blacklists themselves.
>
>Anyone replying to the posting in question will be using the Reply-To
>field, in fact.

This has not been universally true, in the past.

If anyone remembers the "Sneak Peak" postings that came from a Dejanews
style web-interface to Usenet[0], the software they provided did not
even *display* the Reply-To, let alone use it.

Broken? Without question. Sufficient to black-list someone? Seems a
little harsh.

I would assume that similar bits of brokeness still exist in various
bits of similar non-spam software. That someone is using broken
software, but isn't committing a breach of the various ORBx rules, would
seem to be an unhelpful way to run a system.

[0] I forget who, sorry.

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Paul C. Dickie

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Apr 30, 2002, 10:52:38 AM4/30/02
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In article <nv2tcu4ps7t9umr71...@4ax.com>, Richard Ashton
<'{R}'@semolina.org> writes

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:51:26 +0100, Richard Kettlewell
><inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>}Richard Ashton <'{R}'@semolina.org> writes:
>}> Surely you don't expect an upright responsible Netizen to deliberately set a
>}> trap so that anyone emailing him automatically blacklists themselves.
>}
>}Anyone replying to the posting in question will be using the Reply-To
>}field, in fact.
>
>Do I understand that you approve of setting nasty traps for the unwary ?
>
>You think this is reasonable behaviour from someone who wants to be trusted to
>run an email blocking blacklist ?

I don't believe I would trust the fellow to run a seaside whelk stall...

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Paul C. Dickie

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Apr 30, 2002, 10:51:44 AM4/30/02
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In article <slrnacstfp...@riffraff.plig.net>, Rob Partington
<ne...@browser.org> writes

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:42:51 +0100,
>Paul C. Dickie <p...@bozzie.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Path: news.demon.co.uk!demon!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!easynet-
>>>monga!easynet.net!news.ebone.net!news1.ebone.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-
>> ^^^^^
>> How apt!
>
>What's my news feeder got to do with anything?

Have you seen the picture of Cummins that {R} has? o-)

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Paul Booth

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Apr 30, 2002, 5:03:14 PM4/30/02
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In uk.net Richard Ashton <'{R}'@semolina.org> wrote:

> That would be the one or two boxes you expect to borrow and stick for free in
> AAISP's rack space in Redbus. Are these boxes going to run the "high quality"
> POP3 and SMTP services too?

Why would he possibly need to borrow boxes? Apparently, he has a
fabrication known simply as 'The Stack' that has (count-em) 133 machines
in it. In fact, someone who can afford the juice for 133 machines (let
alone the 133 machines themselves) should surely not have to worry about
small issues like bandwidth.

Message-ID: <memo.2002021...@paul.gst-group.co.uk>

I've never eaten magic mushrooms, is this what happens when you do?

Paul.

Tony Evans

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Apr 30, 2002, 5:27:26 PM4/30/02
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In uk.net, Paul Booth <pab...@grumpy.co.uk> wrote:

>In uk.net Richard Ashton <'{R}'@semolina.org> wrote:
>
>> That would be the one or two boxes you expect to borrow and stick for free in
>> AAISP's rack space in Redbus. Are these boxes going to run the "high quality"
>> POP3 and SMTP services too?
>
>Why would he possibly need to borrow boxes? Apparently, he has a
>fabrication known simply as 'The Stack' that has (count-em) 133 machines
>in it. In fact, someone who can afford the juice for 133 machines (let
>alone the 133 machines themselves) should surely not have to worry about
>small issues like bandwidth.
>
>Message-ID: <memo.2002021...@paul.gst-group.co.uk>

Cool, now that I would like to see a photo of.

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Paul Cummins

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May 1, 2002, 3:34:00 PM5/1/02
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In article <mEDz8.2957$C5.4...@monolith.news.easynet.net>, Paul Booth
wrote:

> Why would he possibly need to borrow boxes? Apparently, he has a
> fabrication known simply as 'The Stack' that has (count-em) 133 machines
> in it. In fact, someone who can afford the juice for 133 machines (let
> alone the 133 machines themselves) should surely not have to worry about
> small issues like bandwidth.

Amazing how some people don't do their research, isn't it.

'The Stack' is currently being rebuilt, having had parts of it fail, other
parts reach the end of their life (not fail but simply start to expire, if
you see the difference[1])

The VoIP is going to be even more interesting, since I am planning a
pico-cell to accept 4 mobile phones as part of the VoIP network, switched
using a Duron-based box in the loft with an ISDN gateway.

Since A&A is moving to BGP, routing a /24 is less difficult now than it
would have been, but have you tried getting PI addresses recently?

Photo of the stack at its worst is not available, sorry.

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Peter Gradwell

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May 1, 2002, 4:51:02 PM5/1/02
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On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:34 +0100 (BST), lis...@dsbl.org (Paul Cummins)
wrote:

>Since A&A is moving to BGP, routing a /24 is less difficult now than it
>would have been, but have you tried getting PI addresses recently?

I understand it's a bit like getting a net.uk address. Easy if you are
eligable.

>Photo of the stack at its worst is not available, sorry.

How about at it's best then? :) We're all very impressed and keen to
see...

peter

Paul Booth

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May 1, 2002, 6:41:41 PM5/1/02
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Paul Cummins <lis...@dsbl.org> wrote:

> Amazing how some people don't do their research, isn't it.

Sorry, I merely remembered a posting that brought some amusement to
people in the office. I apologise if it now out of date.

> 'The Stack' is currently being rebuilt, having had parts of it fail, other
> parts reach the end of their life (not fail but simply start to expire, if
> you see the difference[1])

No, sorry, I don't. Are you saying your PCs have sell-by dates on them?

> The VoIP is going to be even more interesting, since I am planning a
> pico-cell to accept 4 mobile phones as part of the VoIP network, switched
> using a Duron-based box in the loft with an ISDN gateway.

More interesting than say 'These boxen run as a single SMP server, using
a version of Linux.' I presume you mean they run as a cluster, under an
SMP-like environment such as, uhm, MOSIX?

OK, so you want to open up the Stick to things like Seti@home that can
run through a work unit in under an hour. That sounds quite cool, how
does that work then?

> Since A&A is moving to BGP, routing a /24 is less difficult now than it
> would have been, but have you tried getting PI addresses recently?

Routing a /24 for who is less difficult? And no, I haven't tried getting
PI space recently, I've had no need of it, but it's not difficult to get
if you need it. I seriously doubt anyone at A&A would be daft enough to
give you a /24 of PA space for your bizarre ideas. Justifying that to
RIPE in the event of an audit would be something I'd like to witness.

RIPE will not give you a /24 of PI space for ADSL.

> Photo of the stack at its worst is not available, sorry.

Why not?

Paul.

Iain Bowen

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May 1, 2002, 3:43:48 AM5/1/02
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In article <wwvpu0h...@rjk.greenend.org.uk>,
Richard Kettlewell <richard+n...@sfere.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> writes:

>> Richard Kettlewell <inv...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>>> Anyone replying to the posting in question will be using the
>>> Reply-To field, in fact.
>>
>> This has not been universally true, in the past.
>>
>> If anyone remembers the "Sneak Peak" postings that came from a
>> Dejanews style web-interface to Usenet[0], the software they
>> provided did not even *display* the Reply-To, let alone use it.
>
>In fact groups.google.com has the same misfeature. I've mailed them
>asking if they could correct it.

groups.google.com also ignores Followup-To: which is very annoying, I've
mailed them about it but had no reply.

Iain
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Paul Cummins

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May 2, 2002, 12:18:00 AM5/2/02
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In article <Fa_z8.4919$C5.8...@monolith.news.easynet.net>, Paul Booth
wrote:

> No, sorry, I don't. Are you saying your PCs have sell-by dates on
> them?

No, I am saying that some of the machines have simply 'worn out' or are
now too old to be effective.

Others have had PSU, HDD, memory parity etc errors.

The new stack will be less machines (probably about 20) but will be
running better processors, minimum AMD K6 200. The whole idea of the
original stack was an SMP cluster of /'old' machines (originally 386/486
boxen) running Extreme Linux as an experiment.

> Routing a /24 for who is less difficult? And no, I haven't tried getting
> PI space recently, I've had no need of it, but it's not difficult to get
> if you need it. I seriously doubt anyone at A&A would be daft enough to
> give you a /24 of PA space for your bizarre ideas. Justifying that to
> RIPE in the event of an audit would be something I'd like to witness.

IF I can justify usage, why should I not get a /24?



> RIPE will not give you a /24 of PI space for ADSL.

RIPE are happy to provide a /24 of PA for ADSL. IIRC, someone has a /22 on
ADSL 'oop nurth'

Paul C. Dickie

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May 3, 2002, 5:13:12 AM5/3/02
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In article <8js0duk72censhb4k...@4ax.com>, Richard Ashton
<'{R}'@semolina.org> writes

>On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:34 +0100 (BST), lis...@dsbl.org (Paul Cummins) wrote:
>
>Why are you using this From: Address ?

Because he thought that "kickme" would be too obviously masochistic? o-)

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Paul Cummins

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May 3, 2002, 11:13:00 AM5/3/02
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Ashton has not realised that he is killfiled. Please stop quoting his
posts, then I don't have to read them.

Tim Haynes

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May 3, 2002, 12:47:45 PM5/3/02
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lis...@dsbl.org (Paul Cummins) writes:

> Ashton has not realised that he is killfiled. Please stop quoting his
> posts, then I don't have to read them.

Kill-filing is a property of the news client, not the rest of the world's
behaviour on a news group. If your killfile doesn't understand followups,
take it out and get a proper one, blydi selfish tosser.

~Tim
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Paul C. Dickie

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May 3, 2002, 8:07:28 PM5/3/02
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In article <memo.2002050...@paul.gst-group.co.uk>, Paul
Cummins <lis...@dsbl.org> writes

>In article <VjIA8gDo...@bozzie.demon.co.uk>, Paul C. Dickie wrote:
>> In article <8js0duk72censhb4k...@4ax.com>, Richard Ashton
>> <'{R}'@semolina.org> writes
>> >On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:34 +0100 (BST), lis...@dsbl.org (Paul Cummins)
>> wrote:
>> >Why are you using this From: Address ?
>> Because he thought that "kickme" would be too obviously masochistic?
>
>Ashton has not realised that he is killfiled. Please stop quoting his
>posts, then I don't have to read them.

Please cease to post at all or, better, learn how to die so that the
world may cease to be troubled by your playing with your ORB(Z).

Have a nice day.

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Paul Cummins

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May 4, 2002, 7:00:00 AM5/4/02
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In article <x0C5ZeBA...@bozzie.demon.co.uk>, Paul C. Dickie wrote:

> Please cease to post at all or, better, learn how to die

Another ashtonesque *plonk*er

Barry Dorrans

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May 4, 2002, 2:58:00 PM5/4/02
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"Paul C. Dickie" <p...@bozzie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:x0C5ZeBA...@bozzie.demon.co.uk...

> Please cease to post at all or, better, learn how to die so that the
> world may cease to be troubled by your playing with your ORB(Z).

If we're lucky, playing with his orbz may make him go blind :D


Tim ...

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"Barry Dorrans" <bar...@idunno.org.bounce> wrote in message
news:ZaWA8.7231$C5.18...@monolith.news.easynet.net...


"die", "go blind" ..... what kind of sick people are you to 'wish' these on
someone else, especially over such ridiculous and trivial issues?? What is
it with 'net' people ...... ?

*thread plonked*


Paul Cummins

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In article <csVyv3BA...@bozzie.demon.co.uk>, Paul C. Dickie wrote:

>
> Have you seen the picture of Cummins that {R} has? o-)

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