OT: How to Ignore People & Threads in r.m.rc.a.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
and political arguments in this newsgroup.
The best way to handle these things is to get a newsreader
that allows filtering.
I use Agent (paid-for copy). I can mark threads, authors,
or keywords so that I don't even see them any more.
Very often I don't even bother to set filters. I just filter
things by reading the subject headings. It's not hard to
pick out the things I'm interested in and the things I'm
not.
Your mileage may vary.
Marty
Normen Strobel
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <mol...@canisius.edu> wrote in message
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try to filter (don't open) those largely ignorant political diatribes. Think
along the lines of recreation/models/radiocontrol/air and all is bliss.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
<insus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Your right Martin, its not worth getting into those whinny posts. I also
>try to filter (don't open) those largely ignorant political diatribes. Think
>along the lines of recreation/models/radiocontrol/air and all is bliss.
Learning to tolerate thread drift, flames, and trolls is part of life
on the wild frontier. Here's some good stuff I picked up during
a recent flamewar in <news:news.groups>:
| Tim Skirvin, moderator of <news:news.admin.net-abuse.policy>
| said, 'The winner of a Usenet flame war is the first to walk away.'
| Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
| the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
| one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs,
| that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically
| lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically
| guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those
| groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
| intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its
| thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
Marty
pe reivers
For the first time since I started hanging around this newsgroup, I added
some well defined phrases to my kill file and deleted all corresponding
messages from my news database. The length of these off topic troll nonsense
ravings is amazing..
I am convinced it is not a measure of the mean American mind. However, if it
is, may God indeed bless (help?) America.
I presume, most of my modelling friends stand taller than all that rubbish I
washed down the drain lately.
End of statement.
--
Rgds,
Pé
From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
http://home.wanadoo.nl/pereivers/home.html
http://mvvs-nl.com/
www.prme.nl
"Bob Adkins" <bo...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:59:08 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
> <mol...@canisius.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> >| Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
> >| the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
> >| one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs,
> >| that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically
> >| lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically
> >| guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those
> >| groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
> >| intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its
> >| thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
>
> HA!
>
> I've been waiting for Godwin's law to take down that fiery political
thread.
> It needs to die. Soon.
>
> Bob
Joe Parsons
>On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:59:08 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
><mol...@canisius.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>>| Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
>>| the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
>>| one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs,
>>| that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically
>>| lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically
>>| guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those
>>| groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
>>| intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its
>>| thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
>
>HA!
>
>I've been waiting for Godwin's law to take down that fiery political thread.
>It needs to die. Soon.
Problem is, the people to whom Godwin's Law *should* apply aren't familiar with
it--and would ignore it if they were.
Joe Parsons
Red Scholefield
knickers is a big knot! It seems particularly prevalent with those that
would like to deny his existence. <G>
--
Red S.
"I speak the truth, not so much as I would, but as much
as I dare; and I dare a little more as I grow older."
Montaigne
"pe reivers" <prei...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
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Sherman F. Dickson II
speaking for all Americans? From what I have been reading you may be
speaking for bigoted far right no-nazi types and nothing more. Maybe it
is time you laid off the booze for a while for it sure appears to have
clouded your thinking.
Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:23:15 +0100, "pe reivers" <prei...@hetnet.nl> wrote:
>
> >Statement:
> >For the first time since I started hanging around this newsgroup, I added
> >some well defined phrases to my kill file and deleted all corresponding
> >messages from my news database. The length of these off topic troll nonsense
> >ravings is amazing..
> >I am convinced it is not a measure of the mean American mind. However, if it
> >is, may God indeed bless (help?) America.
> >I presume, most of my modelling friends stand taller than all that rubbish I
> >washed down the drain lately.
>
> I'm afraid there are ever-widenening differences between European thinking
> and American thinking, my friend. It saddens me to say it, but I think we're
> witnessing the end of an era.
>
> Bob
Fly Higher
"Sherman F. Dickson II" <dick...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What gives you the right to make a statement that infers that you are
> speaking for all Americans? From what I have been reading you may be
> speaking for bigoted far right no-nazi types and nothing more. Maybe it
> is time you laid off the booze for a while for it sure appears to have
> clouded your thinking.
no-nazi? You implying that you're pro-nazi? Would explain much!
daytripper
>
>HA!
>
>I've been waiting for Godwin's law to take down that fiery political thread.
>It needs to die. Soon.
LMAO! Highlarious stuff, Robert.
Apparently it was your alter ego that has been posting furiously (29 posts in
just this one day alone) to the "fiery political thread" while you were taking
your nap...
Penguin254
and maternal commentary, too?
Mark
"Sherman F. Dickson II" <dick...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ
wrote:
>Does godwins law cover comments about drinking, mental illness, Drug abuse
>and maternal commentary, too?
This is in the Godwin.FAQ, which is maintained by the legendary Tim
Skirvin:
Rule #547 (Arne Adolfsen): When people know they're wrong they resort
to ad hominems.
<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/>
Here's Godwin himself explaining the origin of his law:
<http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/godwin.if.html>
(And yes, for those who are keeping score at home, I know
this whole thread is off-topic. I put OT in the original subject
line, but it got cut somewhere along the way. Thread drift
happens!)
Marty
Bill Archibald
Marty posted:
>| Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
>| the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
>| one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs,
>| that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically
>| lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically
>| guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those
>| groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
>| intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its
>| thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
Marty,
Although this axiom proves true time and time again, it suggest a rule
of engagement with criteria for "winning" and "losing".
I wonder how a winner or looser can be declared unless all parties
have agreed to the rules. If any participant says that he/she does
not recognize the rule, it can not be applied.
I wish we could get a 100% agreement to this rule, but the chances of
that happening run similar to the BoSox meeting the Cubbies in the
World Series
-Bill
pe reivers
IMHO, God likes to watch us while we, specimens of the human race, stir up a
lot of dust. The utter chaos thus created provides Him with the events that
He needs for his own plan.
--
Rgds,
Pé
From Arcen, South-East in the Netherlands
http://home.wanadoo.nl/pereivers/home.html
http://mvvs-nl.com/
www.prme.nl
"Red Scholefield" <red...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Martin X. Moleski, SJ
wrote:
>>| Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
>>| the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
>>| one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs,
>>| that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically
>>| lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically
>>| guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those
>>| groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
>>| intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its
>>| thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
>Although this axiom proves true time and time again, it suggest a rule
>of engagement with criteria for "winning" and "losing".
Godwin's Law doesn't say that the author of the comparison
loses; that's a tradition that has become attached to the Law.
There's a different tradition of interpreting Godwin's Law which
says that after the Godwin Threshold has been crossed, the
thread becomes meaningless. This avoids the question of
deciding who wins and who loses, and it does not make the
false assertion that meaningless threads will soon die.
>I wonder how a winner or looser can be declared unless all parties
>have agreed to the rules. If any participant says that he/she does
>not recognize the rule, it can not be applied.
Agreed. This is where Tim Skirvin's Dictum seems right to me:
'The winner of a Usenet flame war is the first to walk away.'
This means I get to declare victory and go home any time I want
to. ;o) I don't need anybody's permission to walk away from
a flamewar.
>I wish we could get a 100% agreement to this rule, but the chances of
>that happening run similar to the BoSox meeting the Cubbies in the
>World Series
I'm sure you meant to type "the chances of ... the BoSox [BEATING]
the Cubbies in the World Series." As a citizen of Buffalo, the city
of Beautiful Losers, the citizens of Boston have my deepest
sympathy. :o(
(For those keeping score at home, I still know this whole
thread is off-topic. Discussing netiquette is off-topic in
99.999% of newsgroups.)
Marty
Bill Archibald
Actually I DID mean the chances of those two hard luck teams making it
to the world series together are Slim to None ...... and Slim just
left town. If they did both meet, it would be cause for the baseball
world to celebrate, as one would surly win ..... I think <g>
But as a citizen of the Greater Boston area, I thank you. And I thank
all of Buffalo for making Bledsoe feel welcome and treating him with
the respect he deserves but never really received here.
And to continue on sports, as a past student of the other end of Comm
Ave, I will admit that, Beanpot aside, BC hockey is superior.
(have we covered the major sports yet .... oh that's right Basketball,
oh well, I'm not a fan and I know nothing)
Now, with permission to go OT to the thread but to veer on subject of
the ng, when are you heading this way with a gremlin or two? I'm sure
we could rustle up a little fun. I think Dave (daytripper) would be
game........right Dave? And some other local regular contributors
like Brain F and Geo D.
-Bill
Bill Archibald
And even today, two days after this post of his, that evil twin has
not been stopped. It is obvious that some warped individual is
carrying out a campaign to sully the reputation of a man once filled
with help and good humor. If I were Bob, I'd nuke the swamp and rid
myself of that menace that was besmirching my good name.
seriously !
-Bill
daytripper
>You put it very well, sir.
>
>Actually I DID mean the chances of those two hard luck teams making it
>to the world series together are Slim to None ...... and Slim just
>left town. If they did both meet, it would be cause for the baseball
>world to celebrate, as one would surly win ..... I think <g>
>
>But as a citizen of the Greater Boston area, I thank you. And I thank
>all of Buffalo for making Bledsoe feel welcome and treating him with
>the respect he deserves but never really received here.
>
>And to continue on sports, as a past student of the other end of Comm
>Ave, I will admit that, Beanpot aside, BC hockey is superior.
>
>(have we covered the major sports yet .... oh that's right Basketball,
>oh well, I'm not a fan and I know nothing)
>
>Now, with permission to go OT to the thread but to veer on subject of
>the ng, when are you heading this way with a gremlin or two? I'm sure
>we could rustle up a little fun. I think Dave (daytripper) would be
>game........right Dave? And some other local regular contributors
>like Brain F and Geo D.
Oh, hell yes!
And I've mounted twin nuclear-tipped Sparrow missiles to my Gremlins this year
(scale, of course) just in case Saddam sends a ringer...
/daytripper (Adkins ought to be happy with that, eh? ;-)
daytripper
Whoever it is that has been cranking out all that nonsense/troll-bait using
Bob's peecee is clearly the embodiment of the famous saying:
There is always one more nitwit than was counted on.
Hopefully he'll figure out who's been misusing his system to keep the very
thread alive that he wants to die...
/dave (...or he refills his Lithium 'script. Either way would be fine ;-)
Bill Archibald
<day_t...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>And I've mounted twin nuclear-tipped Sparrow missiles to my Gremlins this year
>(scale, of course) just in case Saddam sends a ringer...
>
>/daytripper (Adkins ought to be happy with that, eh? ;-)
Thanks Dave, I just got a rash of grief in the form of, "Stop grinning
and laughing so hard at your computer like that!"
-Bill
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
wrote:
> ... But as a citizen of the Greater Boston area, I thank you. And I thank
>all of Buffalo for making Bledsoe feel welcome and treating him with
>the respect he deserves but never really received here.
He earned a lot of respect.
>And to continue on sports, as a past student of the other end of Comm
>Ave, I will admit that, Beanpot aside, BC hockey is superior.
I graduated from BC in '73. I always enjoy hearing about the
Beanpot, even when we lose. What a great rivalry!
>(have we covered the major sports yet .... oh that's right Basketball,
>oh well, I'm not a fan and I know nothing)
We will pass over the Buffalo Braves in silence.
>Now, with permission to go OT to the thread but to veer on subject of
>the ng, when are you heading this way with a gremlin or two? I'm sure
>we could rustle up a little fun. I think Dave (daytripper) would be
>game........right Dave? And some other local regular contributors
>like Brain F and Geo D.
That's a good question. I've learned how to cut cores, so I've
got lots of spare parts. The last two times I purchased downspout,
I got 20 feet for 10 cents. :-O
Keep me posted on early-spring events. I'm not in RCCA ... One
SIG (NSRCA) is enough for me for now.
Marty
Six_O'Clock_High
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <mol...@canisius.edu> wrote in message
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Marty,
One does NOT need the permission or blessing of a SIG to have fun!
My flying buddy cuts the cores, so that part is under control. Now, tell me
how one gets 20 FEET of downspout for 10 cents!
Jim Branaum
AMA 1428
Six_O'clock_High
Targe...@guns.com
daytripper
>
>>Thanks Dave, I just got a rash of grief in the form of, "Stop grinning
>>and laughing so hard at your computer like that!"
>
>You know, laughing real hard can give you hemorrhoids. I hope.
>
>Bob
This anal fixation is of yours explains a lot, Bob...
/daytripper (If that really *is* you ;-)
Greg
Just as history now shows what is happening to another previously great
nation when it turned its back, denied and replaced the infallible with the
fallibility of humanism. I believe the key word is "HAS". My hope that we,
as a nation, would see & learn...
Greg
"Red Scholefield" <red...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Bill Archibald
<mol...@canisius.edu> wrote:
>
>That's a good question. I've learned how to cut cores, so I've
>got lots of spare parts. The last two times I purchased downspout,
>I got 20 feet for 10 cents. :-O
>
>Keep me posted on early-spring events. I'm not in RCCA ... One
>SIG (NSRCA) is enough for me for now.
>
>
I'm not in any special interest group, but am always ready to raise a
little interest in an informal, spur of the moment, Gremlin meet at
our field.
-Bill
jsk
Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:47:48 GMT, daytripper <day_t...@REMOVEyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Whoever it is that has been cranking out all that nonsense/troll-bait using
> >Bob's peecee is clearly the embodiment of the famous saying:
> >
> > There is always one more nitwit than was counted on.
> >
> >Hopefully he'll figure out who's been misusing his system to keep the very
> >thread alive that he wants to die...
> >
> >/dave (...or he refills his Lithium 'script. Either way would be fine ;-)
>
> You use the language of an acid head. How important is your opinion, Mr.
> Timothy Leary wannabe?
>
> Bob
As important as yours, Mr John Wayne wannabe.
daytripper
>On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:55:38 -0600, jsk <jo...@kallend.net> wrote:
>
>
>>As important as yours, Mr John Wayne wannabe.
>
>Thank you.
>
>I'm glad you recognize it's better to aspire to greatness than to aspire to
>a wretched drug culture.
>
>Bob
Ah, I get it. You think "daytripper" has something to do with drugs.
/daytripper (LMAO! What a maroon...)
jsk
Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:55:38 -0600, jsk <jo...@kallend.net> wrote:
>
> >As important as yours, Mr John Wayne wannabe.
>
> Thank you.
>
> I'm glad you recognize it's better to aspire to greatness than to aspire to
> a wretched drug culture.
>
Yes Bob, you make a great ACTOR, safe at home thousands of miles from
the action, playing the role of the brave and patriotic.
Sherman F. Dickson II
inferred many others are?
Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:48:48 -0600, jsk <jo...@kallend.net> wrote:
>
> >Yes Bob, you make a great ACTOR, safe at home thousands of miles from
> >the action, playing the role of the brave and patriotic.
>
> Not "playing", sir. I would join the action if I could, and I would give my
> sons my blessing if they should decide to fight in Iraq.
>
> Bob
Sherman F. Dickson II
"I don't believe you can expose anything, William. However, I believe
you
would actually compromise American troops if you could. Traitorous
bastard.
Go fuck Hanoi Jane. Better yet, go strap yourself to a radar truck in
Baghdad. Better hurry!"
"Reasonable discussions should be reserved for reasonable people. They
should not be wasted on people that call the President of the United
States "Shrub".
I'd kick his fucking traitorous, candy ass if I could get at him.
I never said anything about supporting Sadam. All I have ever inferred
is that our government is not only deceiving us on some issues but also
stripping us of our constitutional rights daily. No one is above the
constitution including our president and his staff yet he has not only
inferred but also shown in the recent past that he feels he indeed is.
Maybe you don't have a problem with that but I do.
While you may believe everything you read and hear from our government
officials and local media others including myself take the time to seek
information from all sources. Only then do we make a decision on whether
the information we are presented with is truthful just propaganda. They
have a politically correct term for individuals such as you Bob it is
"Neo-conservative". Maybe you should do a bit of research on it.
An ignorant population is a controllable population.
Sherman
Sherman
Bob Adkins wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:13:07 -0500, "Sherman F. Dickson II"
> <dick...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >And if they choose not are they also pinko sleaze commies as you have
> >inferred many others are?
>
> I didn't infer anything. You did.
>
> I have no idea what you think. Ask yourself that question, not me.
>
> Anyone who supports an evil, murderous dictator is evil, but not necessarily
> a commie.
>
> Bob
Six_O'Clock_High
"jsk" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
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John,
I am not sure if that is a good way to define a patriot when you disagree
with all those who have done something about their beliefs.
By the way, what have YOU done for your country?
Many of my friends and I accepted the challenge YOUR elected officials set
out in the 1960's and tried to stop the forces of evil in RVN. Where were
you?
Six_O'Clock_High
"Sherman F. Dickson II" <dick...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Sherman,
I took my two year vacation in RVN. When are you going to take a vacation
in pleasant, sunny IRAQ that you defend and swear by?
John T
Your language in a public forum which is visited by women and children
is deplorable.
JT
"Sherman F. Dickson II" <dick...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3E57CD86...@comcast.net>...
jsk
language (which he has quoted). Do you not notice vile language that
comes from the conservatives?
Joe L.
Joe L.
jsk wrote:
>
> Why pick on him? Others who disagree with him have used equally vile
> language (which he has quoted). Do you not notice vile language that
> comes from the conservatives?
>
> John T wrote:
> > Mr. Dickson, you have pretty much shown the newsgroup your views.
> > Your language in a public forum which is visited by women and children
> > is deplorable.
> >
> > JT
> admin@loopback $LOGIN@localhost $LOGNAME@localhost
$USER@localhost
> $USER@$HOST -h1024@localhost ro...@mailloop.com
Bill Archibald
JT,
Two questions.
Why did you repost the language if you think it's is not proper here?
Do you realize that Sherman copied what was said to me by Adkins?
May I request that you live up to the standards you demand of others
and that you chastise ALL who do not live up to those standards, not
just those who do not agree with your politics.
Hypocrisy and double standards are NOT the American way.
-bill
On 4 Mar 2003 12:04:48 -0800, johnth...@hotmail.com (John T)
wrote:
John T
up to "ALL" your own standards and you should read the original post
more carefully.
JT
Bill Archibald <nos...@myISP.com> wrote in message news:<=0dlPv2gvAC6gmm6ZYw=EYkY...@4ax.com>...
jsk
language) and Adkins (no chastisement for vile language) and another for
Dickson (not OK to quote vile language).
john
John T wrote:
>
> You have a right to your opinion, however misguided as it may possibly be.
>
> JT
>
> jsk <kal...@iit.edu> wrote in message news:<3E67BFF5...@iit.edu>...