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d...@n.olympian

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Nov 3, 2001, 3:35:13 PM11/3/01
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On 3 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
>d...@n.olympian wrote in message:
>> My advise is to study Venus, Aphrodite, astronomically
>> & astrologically, mythologically, in every way you can,
>> since Venus is your ensign, of whose standard you bear.
>
>Thanks Daniel,
>Can you suggest some starting point on the net/ some book where I can
>find out about "ensign" and other concepts you used.
>
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Thank you, I'm glad that you find this of interest.
There are many good websites on ancient mythology
& ancient astrology, whereby a majority consensus
emerges on the prevailing distinctions between the
planetary gods & goddesses, and how they interact.

Although the author of this book is not adept at
astrology, Edgar Cayce reading excerpts which he
quotes therein are well-worth perusing. The book
is entitled "Edgar Cayce's Secrets of Astrology"
-by Kirk Nelson, ARE Press, ISBN 0-87604-420-8.

Here're a couple of fine examples of mythological
websites out of surely many dozens to choose from,
which you can find through any good search engine:

http://www.greekmythology.com/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/untangle/greek.html

I find that studying the fundamental relationships
of the planets on the musical scales in which they
formed, is tantamount to understanding their myths,
their innate & interactive astrophysical qualities
which can be studied on astronomy-related websites,
and websites on alchemy, tarot, metaphysics, et al,
which calculation is astro-nomical, then deduction
is astro-logical. Here're a some charts which I've
developed and compiled (based on much research and
practice) over the last years which I find helpful
for references, & astrological deduction of charts,
of which only Nostradamus & Edgar Cayce are worthy
(modern) mentors for those interested in astrology.

For example this first chart dates to circa 440 AD,
and agrees 100% with Greco-Roman authorities whose
extant works date centuries BC, which in turn are
in agreement with more ancient authorities on this:

COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Place Musa goddess
Tenth Primum Mobile Earth/Pluto Mnemosyne Memory
Ninth Mobile Seasons/Neptune Thalia Comedy
Eighth Caelest.Firma. Stars/Uranus Urania Astronomy
Seventh SATVRNI Saturn Polihymnia Hymnody
Sixth IOVIS Jupiter Euterpe Melody
Fifth MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
Fourth SOLIS Sun Melpomene Tragedy
Third VENERIS Venus Terpsicore Dance
Second MERCVRII Mercury Kaliope Epic
First LVNE Moon Klio History

Compare the above ancient chart with these charts below,
understanding that no man contrived these, but are based
on long ages of careful observation of that which exists:

PLANETARY ORBIT/SACRED GLOMES
(periodicities in earth days)
S# Planet: Synodic Sidereal
10 Pluto: 366.7 91305.20
9 Neptune: 367.5 60839.69
8 Uranus: 369.7 30953.48
7 Saturn: 378.1 10800.44
6 Jupiter: 399.9 4332.230
5 Mars: 780.0 686.9257
4 Sun: ----- 365.2564
3 *Venus: 583.9 224.6982
2 Mercury: 115.9 87.97046
1 Moon: 29.53 27.32166

DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODES IN THE OCTAVE
(Orbit, Planet, Pitch, Mode, Muse, Goddess)
S# Pla Key Mod Mus God Relative Middle C
10 Plu C Ion Mne Mem <=C equal middle C
9 Nep B Loc Tha Com <=B below middle C
8 Ura A Aeo Ura Ast <=A below middle C <=bottom
----------------------------------------
7 Sat G Mix Pol Hym <=G above middle C
6 Jup F Lyd Eut Mel <=F above middle C
5 Mar E Phr Era Lyr <=E above middle C
4 Sun D Dor Mel Tra <=D above middle C
----------------------------------------
3 Ven C Ion Ter Dan <=C above middle C <=top
2 Mer B Loc Kal Epi <=B above middle C
1 Moo A Aeo Kli His <=A above middle C

It's no wonder that Aphrodite (Venus) is the "foam" or
crest of the wave as we see her to place on the octave
of Pluto at the beginning of the fixed sidereal scales.
And of course, Pluto is the white pebble at the center
of the Earth, thus at the center of the human ear, etc.

DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODES IN WHOLE & HALF STEPS
# alpha AscendSteps Mode *Species
7 G W-W-H-W-W-H Mixolydian greater w/ b7
6 F W-W-W-H-W-W Lydian greater w/ #4
5 E H-W-W-W-H-W Phrygian lesser w/ b2
4 D W-H-W-W-W-H Dorian lesser melodic
3 C W-W-H-W-W-W Ionian greater natural
2 B H-W-W-H-W-W Locrian lesser w/ b2 b5
1 A W-H-W-W-H-W Aeolian lesser natural
*greater, major, perfect;
lesser, minor, imperfect.

THE TERRESTRIAL
"TREE OF LIFE"
1
A
Uranus
/ Aeolian \
/ Infinity \
/ \
3-------------------2
B B
Mercury Neptune
Locrian Locrian
Intellect Wisdom
| |
5-------------------4
G F
Saturn Jupiter
Mixolydian Lydian
Judgment Charity
| \ / |
| \ 6 / |
| \ C / |
| Venus |
| Ionian |
| /Beauty \ |
| / \ |
| / \ |
8-------------------7
D E
Sun Mars
Dorian Phrygian
Majesty Victory
\ 9 /
\ A /
\ Moon /
Aeolian
Foundation
|
10
C
Pluton
Ionian
Center

DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODE-NOMENCLATURE
(same mode, common ascending, ancient descending)
Tonic Common Ancient Planet Heaven
*C Ionian Lydian Pluto Tenth
*B Locrian Mixolydian Neptune Ninth
*A Aeolian Hypodorian Uranus Eighth
G Mixolydian Hypophrygian Saturn Seventh
F Lydian Hypolydian Jupiter Sixth
E Phrygian Dorian Mars Fifth
D Dorian Phrygian Sun Fourth
C Ionian Lydian Venus Third
B Locrian Mixolydian Mercury Second
A Aeolian Hypodorian Moon First

*NOTE outer planet modes are in the lower octave;
e.g., Urania in the bass Aeolian is also called
Hypermixolidian or Hyperphrygian. But these are
repeat modes so the common names are maintained
for continuity. But each outer planets ethos is
its own, given this sidereal emphasis on length,
with Uranus out to infinity, Neptune just above
the Earth firmament, Pluto nearest to the Earth.

CHROMATIC HARMONY IN THE IRIS/OCTAVE
11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A
IVi Vio Red ROr Ora OYe Yel Gre GBl Blu BIn Ind
Aqu Pis Ari Tau Gem Can Leo Vir Lib Sco Sag Cap
Air Wat Fir Ear Air Wat Fir Ear Air Wat Fir Ear
Sat Jup Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat
/Ur /Ne | | | | | | | /Pl | |
| | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | |<->| | | | | |
| | | | |<--------->| | | | |
| | | |<----------------->| | | |
| | |<------------------------->| | |
| |<--------------------------------->| |
|<----------------------------------------->|

CHROMATIC EXALTATIONS
*---------------------------------->|
| *---------------------------------->|
| | | | | | | | |<----------*
| | | | | |<------------------* |
| | *---------------------------*------>|
| |<------*-------------------* | | |
|<--------------*-----------* | | | |
| | |<--------------* | | | | |
| | | |<------* | | | | | |
11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A
Sat Jup Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat
/Ur /Ne /Pl

DIATONIC EXALTATIONS
| |<------------<<|<--------------*
|<--------------------<<|<------* |
| | | | | | | *------>|
| | | | | | *---------->|
| | | | | *------>| | |
| | | | *------>| | | |
| | | *-->| | | | | |
| | *---------------------->| |
| *-------------->| | | | |
*-------------->| | | | | |
8 9 10 4 5 6 7 1 2 3
A B C D E F G A B C
Ura Nep Plu Sun Mar Jup Sat Moo Mer Ven

CHROMATIC TENSION IN THE OCTAVE
# Key Deg Aspect Pla Ele
1 C 0 Conjunct Mar Fir
2 Db 30 Semisextile Ven Ear
3 D 60 Sextile Mer Air
4 Eb 90 Square Moo Wat
5 E 120 Trine Sun Fir
6 F 150 Inconjunct Mer Ear
7 Gb 180 Opposition Ven Air
8 G 210 Inconjunct Mar/Pl Wat
9 Ab 240 Trine Jup Fir
10 A 270 Square Sat Ear
11 Bb 300 Sextile Sat/Ur Air
12 B 330 Semisextile Jup/Ne Wat

War of Ten
(10 fixed diatonic, 12 tension chromatic):
Titans Olympians
Atlas Aphrodite
Koeus Apollon
Kronus Ares
Epimetheus Artemis
Hyperion Athena
Iapetus Hades
Metis Hephaestus
Oceanus Hera
Phoebe Hermes
Prometheus Hestia
Rhea Poseidon
Tethys Zeus

RULERSHIPS ON OUR CAELESTIAL SPHERE
(ecliptic 0 lat. Aldebaran 15Tau lon.)
Co Sign Glyph Quality Ruler
01 Aries Ram Ambition Mars
02 Taurus Bull Passion Venus
03 Gemini Twins Communication Mercury
04 Cancer Crab Imagination Moon
05 Leo Lion Power Sun
06 Virgo Virgin Virtue Mercury
07 Libra Scales Justice Venus
08 Scorpius Scorpion Vitality Mars/Pluto
09 Sagittarius Archer Fortune Jupiter
10 Capricorn Horned Goat Discipline Saturn
11 Aquarius Water Bearer Inspiration Saturn/Uranus
12 Pisces Fishes Mysticism Jupiter/Neptune

RULERSHIPS IN OUR TERRESTRIAL SPHERE
(meridian houses of the horoscope)
Hs Rulership Ruler
01 - Ego - Mars
02 - Riches - Venus
03 - Brothers - Mercury
04 - Parents - Moon
05 - Sons - Sun
06 - Servants - Mercury
07 - Marriage - Venus
08 - Death - Mars/Pluto
09 - Spirit - Jupiter
10 - Society - Saturn
11 - Friends - Saturn/Uranus
12 - Debts - Jupiter/Neptune

SUMMARY OF RULERSHIPS IN THE IRIS
(name,rule,co-rule,fall,co-fall,exalt,debilitate)
Name Rul Crl Fal Cfl Exa Deb
Pluto Sco Tau Vir Pis
Neptune Pis Vir Sag Gem
Uranus Aqu Leo Sco Tau
Saturn Cap Aqu Can Leo Lib Ari
Jupiter Sag Pis Gem Vir Can Cap
Mars Ari Sco Lib Tau Cap Can
Sun Leo Aqu Ari Lib
Venus Lib Tau Ari Sco Pis Vir
Mercury Gem Vir Sag Pis Aqu Leo
Moon Can Cap Tau Sco
Node Aqu Leo Vir Pis
Lilith Sco Tau Pis Vir
Fortune Pis Vir Sag Gem

TROPICAL MONTHS OF THE YEAR IN THE IRIS
summary of seasonal rulerships during the
zodiacal months of the tropical year
Name Rul Crl Fal Cfl Exa Deb
Pluto sco tau vir pis
Neptune pis vir sag gem
Uranus aqu leo sco tau
Saturn cap aqu can leo lib ari
Jupiter sag pis gem vir can cap
Mars ari sco lib tau cap can
Sun leo aqu ari lib
Venus lib tau ari sco pis vir
Mercury gem vir sag pis aqu leo
Moon can cap tau sco

--------------------------------------------------------------
GENERAL PLANET DATA (reference Astrolog 5.41F)
Planet: AU Year Diam Hr/Day Mass Dens Axis Sat
Earth: 1.000 1.00 1.000 24.00 1.000 5.50 23.45 1
Sun: 0.000 0.00 109.125 720.00 322946.000 1.37 00.00 9
Moon: 0.003 0.07 0.272 655.73 0.012 3.34 06.70 0
Mercury: 0.387 0.24 0.382 1407.60 0.055 5.44 02.00 0
Venus: 0.723 0.62 0.949 5832.24 0.815 5.25 02.70 0
Mars: 1.524 1.88 0.532 24.62 0.107 3.92 25.19 2
Jupiter: 5.203 11.86 11.209 9.84 317.938 1.24 03.12 16
Saturn: 9.539 29.46 9.449 10.23 95.181 0.62 26.73 18
Uranus:19.191 84.01 4.007 17.90 14.531 1.24 82.14 15
Neptune:30.061 164.79 3.883 19.20 17.135 1.61 29.60 8
Pluto:39.529 248.54 0.180 153.29 0.002 2.06 57.54 1

Hope that helps,
Daniel Joseph Min

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Hi Daniel,

The amount of info you post is amazing.

There has been a new development since I posted initially. I have been
laid off as part of workforce reduction. Saturn-Pluto are at work!!
Now I am faced with the choice of looking for a job in US or returning
to India.

Any insights on this would be helpful.

Thanks

Prashant

d...@n.olympian

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On 7 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
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>
>There has been a new development since I posted initially. I have been
>laid off as part of workforce reduction. Saturn-Pluto are at work!!
>Now I am faced with the choice of looking for a job in US or returning
>to India.
>Any insights on this would be helpful.
>Thanks
>Prashant
>
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I'm looking at your natal chart again. At present, only
the Sun, Moon, Jupiter, and Saturn, are closing benefic;
whereas all other planets are receding malefic. In your
natal chart, you have Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Saturn,
Uranus & Pluto closing benefic. This means that, at the
present time, and for the immediate future, the planets
currently in radial repulsion to you are the Sun & Moon,
Venus, Saturn, and Neptune, and this means Venus, first
and foremost! But this is not to be for long, since she
is to be born again at the superior conjunction, as in
approaching Apollo Venus must "die" to its inferiority
contending with the Sun. This conjunction is precisely:

Monday 14 January 2002 11:32:13 UT
Body Caelestial Latitude r Velocity
/Sun : 29Sag18'19.194" -0:00'00" - +1.0190002
\Venus : 29Sag18'19.202" -0:52'42" - +1.2579016
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00.000" -5:28'03" alTau

And because of Venus & Earth's low orbital eccentricity,
she always takes to turn (benefic) near to the superior
conjunction, which at this time will be about 08:59 UT,
Wednesday 16 January 2002--not seventy days from today
(at this writing). After this, Venus continues to close
benefic, and will be seen to emerge after sunset around
March 1st 2002 in her heavenly place, the evening star.
But more importantly, astrologically, is her direction
of motion by radial velocity: benefic after 16-Jan-2002.

This is the greatest psychic benefit to all souls from
the Venus souljourn, thus is very good portent for you.

Meanwhile, however, the Americas are not quite as war-
torn as to see the greater region of your native soil.
Suffice to say, US of A, who is the sister first born
of the "Isle Britannic" fifteen years in front of the
brother of her [France] to make his public rising up,
are verily up to their necks in the melee! Theirs is
not "haven" as it was years ago, so India is as safe
a place to live--in the present and immediate future:
by December 12 Mercury will reign in the third house
(sign of horoscope terrestrial, in concert with your
natal Mercury), as the Moon exalts with Venus second,
thereafter Moon to reign fourth house by the 17th of
December, at which time Jupiter shall reign ninth of
horoscope, all very helpful in the balance to Venus'
mundane sacrifice, her unbinding, unchaining, at her
superior conjunction come mid-January, the aforesaid.

Also note, that your natal chart (which I posted on
Nov 1st <0ab70affd5240d34...@aarg.net>)
showed the part of Fortune in the wrong place! This
is actually part of Spirit. Thus I simply switched
the positions of these, with the corrected chart
below. The webpage where I posted your natal chart
is quite primitive, so I also posted a small graphic
of your chart for convenient reference (as most of
us are more visually oriented and a picture's worth
a 1000 words etc). You'll notice the Part of Fortune
is ruling in the twelfth house, portentending good
health, and long life. What could be more benefic?

Your natal Moon is in very prominent position in the
planetary hierarchy, wherein Jupiter verily exalts,
and the head of the dragon, which is therein malign
to the fourth house with the Moon (but is good with
the other planets), Jupiter benefits by the head of
the dragon, and thus, by Zeus, your Moon does reign
by hierarchy over Saturn who is limited by Jupiter!
in the ninth house. Note Sun & Neptune with tail of
the dragon in the second house is for Venus, as the
tail of the dragon is good for the souljourn--it is
where work is needed. Hence is the psyche incarnate,
particulary with tail of the dragon on the Ascendant
and the tail of Draco in the angle Midheaven. These
are divine invitations to attune with Saturn & with
Neptune, who are the gods of judgment & wisdom, as
you see Neptune is on the locrian octave of Mercury
ruling in the third house conjunct head of Draco in
close orb--advantageous for the sphere of intellect,
which is tempered by the law of the Sun, & wisdom of
Neptune who are there to help your fallen Venus. See?

Pleiades on the Descendant under Mars & Pluton-Hades,
Vertex fate by Saturn: devotion, hymnody, mixolydian,
father time, who is limited under Jupiter on the 7th
of the fixed sidereal mixolydian modality (see chart
in previous reply). Apollo is the diatonic-law fixed.
Venus is grace, transposable chromatic "application"
of the law under freewill who "dances", or actively
participates, to the chromatic transposible melodies
of Jupiter (who makes melody of Apollo's fixed modes)
& Jupiter is very much exalted therewith ruling Moon
who empowers imagination & emotion, and with Mercury
ruling third, which is the house of brethren, there
is pronounced inconstancy indicated in the horoscope.
The Sun & Venus provide for greater stability, but
Uranus under Mars first house inspires more extreme
ambition, as called aggression. Venus balances this
and verily so therewith in the horoscope and psyche.

These are fundamental references to the music of the
horoscope, by which its demonstration in the present
many be readily manifested. This is why I find music
to be so helpful to sovereign astrological deduction,
since it is not enough merely to deduce & adjudicate,
but is the beauty of Venus, the active participant...

I hope this helps, and remember your fortune is GOOD
in the twelfth house. I've corrected the position of
fortune & spirit in your horoscope & copied it below.
I've posted the graphic of your chart to this thread.

Best Regards,
Daniel J Min

Sunday 12 November 1972 7:25am IST +5:30 75:50E 25:11N
Tropical Day: 08:19:47:11 ; Julian Day: 2441633.57986
21 Kartika 1894 ; 6 Kislev 5733 ; 5 Shawwal 1392
Mayan: 12.17.19.5.11 ; 14 Zac ; 6 Chuen

Body Caelestial Latitude r Hs RUL. Velocity
*Venus : 20Vir18'23" + 1:46'58" d 1 [F] +1.2173476
Uranus : 26Vir11'18" + 0:36'12" - 1 [-] +0.0571359
Mars : 3Lib02'19" + 0:41'44" F 1 [R] +0.6598164
Sun : 25Lib22'01" - 0:00'00" d 2 [-] +1.0063426
Ascendant : 3Sco57'27" __________ 2 | __________
Lilith : 4Sco53'01" - 3:58'48" R 2 [F] +0.1115494
Neptune : 10Sco00'02" + 1:34'36" - 2 [-] +0.0366788
East Point: 13Sco14'52" + 0:00'00" - 3 | __________
Antares : 14Sco57'45" - 4:33'59" 3 | alSco
/Mercury : 17Sco03'01" - 2:33'19" - 3 [R] +0.4932594
\Rastaban : 17Sco08'54" +75:17'00" 3 | beDra
Jupiter : 12Sag33'52" - 0:05'56" R 4 [e] +0.1915693
True Node : 24Sag00'14" + 0:00'00" - 4 [-] +0.0105803
Moon : 0Cap56'05" + 0:37'06" F 4 [R] +12.177802
3rd Cusp : 9Cap08'59" + 0:00'00" 5 | __________
Spirit : 9Cap31'31" + 0:00'00" - 5 [-] __________
Antemidhea: 9Aqu33'58" + 0:00'00" 6 | __________
V.Equinoct: 05Pis34'50" + 0:00'00" 6 | -0.0000816
Descendant: 3Tau57'27" __________ 8 | __________
Electra : 4Tau37'24" + 4:11'13" 8 | 17Tau
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'09" 9 | alTau
Saturn : 24Tau45'20" - 1:40'23" - 9 [-] -0.0659484
Vertex : 2Can53'04" __________ - 10 | __________
Midheaven : 9Leo33'58" + 0:00'00" 12 | __________
Thuban : 12Leo39'03" +66:21'22" 12 | alDra
Fortune : 28Leo23'22" + 0:00'00" - 12 [R] __________
Pluto : 9Vir09'54" +16:01'40" e 12 [d] +0.0286457

Radial Distance/v
Eart: 0.0000000~
Sun : 0.9896811+
Moon: 0.0026607+
Merc: 0.8800529+
Venu: 1.2482996-
Mars: 2.5008800+
Jupi: 5.8071827-
Satu: 8.1580268+
Uran: 19.2426376+
Nept: 31.2713155-
Plut: 31.8121898+
Node: 0.0026749-
Lili: 0.0027106~

Fundamental Aspects
1: Lilith (Sco) Con (Sco) Ascendant - orb: a0:55'
2: Saturn [Tau] Tri (Vir) Uranus - orb: s1:25'
3: Neptune (Sco) Sex (Vir) Pluto - orb: s0:50'
4: Pluto (Vir) Tri (Cap) Fortune - orb: s0:21'
5: Jupiter (Sag) Squ (Vir) Pluto - orb: s3:23'
6: Mercury (Sco) Sex (Vir) Venus - orb: s3:15'
7: Moon (Cap) Squ (Lib) Mars - orb: a2:06'
8: Fortune (Cap) Con (Cap) 3rd Cusp - orb: a0:22'
9: Venus (Vir) Tri [Tau] Saturn - orb: a4:26'
10: Sun (Lib) Sex (Sag) Node - orb: s1:21'
11: Venus (Vir) Con (Vir) Uranus - orb: a5:52'
12: Neptune (Sco) Sex (Cap) Fortune - orb: a0:28'
13: Moon (Cap) Squ (Vir) Uranus - orb: s4:44'
14: Sun (Lib) Sex (Cap) Moon - orb: s5:34'
15: Uranus (Vir) Squ (Sag) Node - orb: s2:11'
16: Mars (Lib) Con (Vir) Uranus - orb: s6:51'
17: Moon (Cap) Sex (Sco) Lilith - orb: a3:56'

Fiducial Aspects
18: Mercury (Sco) Con (Sco) Rastaban - orb: a0:05'
19: Descend (Tau) Con (Tau) Electra - orb: a0:39'
----adjudicated by D. Min on November 1, 2001 AD---

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> On 7 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
> >d...@n.olympian wrote in message
> ><snips>
> >
> >There has been a new development since I posted initially. I have been
> >laid off as part of workforce reduction. Saturn-Pluto are at work!!
> >Now I am faced with the choice of looking for a job in US or returning
> >to India.
> >Any insights on this would be helpful.
> >Thanks
> >Prashant
> >
> I hope this helps, and remember your fortune is GOOD
> in the twelfth house. I've corrected the position of
> fortune & spirit in your horoscope & copied it below.
> I've posted the graphic of your chart to this thread.
>
> Best Regards,
> Daniel J Min
>
> Sunday 12 November 1972 7:25am IST +5:30 75:50E 25:11N
> Tropical Day: 08:19:47:11 ; Julian Day: 2441633.57986
> 21 Kartika 1894 ; 6 Kislev 5733 ; 5 Shawwal 1392
> Mayan: 12.17.19.5.11 ; 14 Zac ; 6 Chuen

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for identifying all the things you did, especially for the GOOD
in there.
If you have the time and will to do it, I'd like to present my wife's
birth data here , that might help us decide better on our future
course of action. From what you have said so far, and due to other
factors, I have decided to stay back here in US and look for a job
atleast for some time, perhaps till Jan 16!

Her data is : 27 Feb 1976, 22:56 IST 17:26 UT (23n19,75e04 -
ratlam,india)

Regards

d...@n.olympian

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On 8 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
>d...@n.olympian wrote in message
>news:<a5cd0363761fd55d...@aarg.net>...
>> On 7 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
>> >d...@n.olympian wrote in message
>> ><snips>
>If you have the time and will to do it, I'd like to present my wife's
>birth data here , that might help us decide better on our future
>course of action. From what you have said so far, and due to other
>factors, I have decided to stay back here in US and look for a job
>atleast for some time, perhaps till Jan 16!
>Her data is : 27 Feb 1976, 22:56 IST 17:26 UT (23n19,75e04 -
>ratlam,india)
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Wonderful! I'm happy to hear that you & your wife
are going to stay and make a go of it here in the
states. My immediate impression was Uranus, this,
before I even looked at her chart. So here it is.

Uranus, Neptune, & Pluto are closing benefic; all other
planets are receding malefic. At present, the Sun, Moon,
Jupiter, & Saturn, are closing benefic, and thus are in
radial attraction to your wife's natal planets. As for
compatibility with your planets, Prashant, her planets
find Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Saturn & Neptune all in
radial attraction to yours, with only Uranus and Pluto
in radial repulsion. Which is especially good since the
outer planets are less effective than the inner planets
are in this regard, and as you see, your inner planets
are--by mutual attraction to each other--happy together!

By contrast, your souljourning planet Venus repels hers,
just as her souljourning planet Uranus repels yours, so
are "competitive" in this direction. In the balance, her
Uranus is ruling in the eleventh house of her horoscope,
while yours is in the first house under ruling Mars, and
is right there at the side of your fallen "ensign" Venus.

Her natal Venus transits antemidheaven to reign in the
second house of the horoscope, where you, Prashant, see
tail of the dragon to be in your own horoscope, and so
you are horoscopically attracted to her ruling Venus in
the composite of your shared second house.

Since both your natal Mercury's are radially attracted
to each other, that's helpful, considering your third
house is competing for Mercurian co-rulership; hers is
with the Sun, so her Mercury is sure to outshine yours.
But her Moon is also conjuncting Mercury in close orb,
thus magnified inconstancy--thank goodness for the Sun
to provide his majestic stability therein, but Mercury
is known to get the better of Apollo from time to time,
particularly when Mercury is the inferior horizon star,
which notably conjuncts the head of Draco Rastaban (as
in your natal chart, Prashant) superior to the Sun, on
December 4th, 2001 21:35:51 UT, with Pluto reigning at
a distance nearby on caelestial Scorpio third decan.
Your wife will benefit more from this than you will.
Until then, you will enjoy the attraction of Mercury
(actually a little after this, since Mercury doesn't
turn by radial velocity until Dec 5, 2001 07:21 UT).

Note where her tail of the dragon has transited to the
fourth house of the horoscope, which, unlike the other
planets, the tail of the dragon is very benefic in the
fourth house. This transit is verily nearly coincident
with Venus' transit to rule second house, and also for
Neptune's transit to rule the twelfth house, with head
of Draco and GOOD FORTUNE therein! So both of you have
the portent of long and healthy lives ahead of you....

And Look: Head of the Dragon has just transited to the
eleventh house with ruling Uranus who is her "ensign":
She has a VERY powerful Uranus in her psyche!! Urania
is the eighth heaven, the music of astronomy, extreme
to infinite, the aether or crown of the fixed chakras,
the bass aeolian below middle C on the diatonic scale,
and is the octave of the Moon. With this in mind, it
is not such a bad thing, then, that Mars is fallen in
balance of Venus (Venus is the fulcrum of the scales).

Jupiter is fifth house, joviality, expansiveness for
the Sun's power of destiny. Remember, Jupiter writes
the melodies which Apollo orchestrates. Vertex, fate
in the scorpion with Saturn, devotion is to whatever
Jupiter decides, Neptune the brother is influential.

That's a basic summary of the horoscope. Here're the
chart calculations and I sent a graphic of this, too.

Fortune is yours,
Daniel Joseph Min

Friday 27 February 1976 10:56pm IST +5:30 75:04E 23:19N
Tropical Day: 12:08:15:13 ; Julian Day: 2442836.226389
8 Phalguna 1897 ; 26 Adar 5736 ; 26 Safar 1396
Mayan: 12.18.2.11.13 ; 1 Kayab ; 12 Ben

Body Caelestial Latitude r Hs RUL. Velocity

*Uranus : 12Lib33'21" + 0:30'23" - 11 [R] -0.0150468
Ascendant : 14Lib45'05" __________ 11 | __________
Zubenelgen: 20Lib17'47" + 0:20'10" 11 | al-2Lib
True Node : 20Lib37'52" + 0:00'00" - 11 [R] -0.2005825
Fortune : 10Sco07'21" + 0:00'00" - 12 [R] __________
Rastaban : 17Sco10'24" +75:16'31" 12 | beDra
Neptune : 19Sco25'45" + 1:31'23" - 12 [R] +0.0096512
East Point: 21Lib15'17" + 0:00'00" F 12 | __________
/Venus : 15Cap25'32" - 0:23'31" - 2 [R] +1.2325053
\Antemidhea: 16Cap20'03" + 0:00'00" 3 | __________
Moon : 18Cap25'22" + 5:02'06" F 3 [-] +12.466023
Mercury : 19Cap41'45" - 1:15'37" - 3 [R] +1.3568165
Sun : 13Aqu47'38" + 0:00'00" F 3 [-] +1.0050395
V.Equinoct: 05Pis32'25" + 0:00'00" 4 | -0.0000838
Lilith : 18Pis48'52" + 2:48'11" e 4 [-] +0.1111171
Alpheratz : 19Pis30'55" +25:40'56" 4 | alAnd
Jupiter : 29Pis30'36" - 1:04'20" R 5 [-] +0.2023310
Descendant: 14Ari45'05" __________ 5 | __________
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'11" 6 | alTau
Mintaka : 27Tau36'32" -22:57'39" 7 | deOri
Mars : 27Tau41'45" + 2:36'25" F 7 [F] +0.3462315
Castor : 25Gem27'23" +10:05'41" 8 | alGem
Vertex : 25Gem56'04" __________ - 8 | __________
Procyon : 1Can00'18" -16:00'57" 8 | alCMi
Saturn : 2Can19'29" + 0:21'08" F 8 [-] -0.0506160
Midheaven : 16Can20'03" + 0:00'00" 9 | __________
Vindemiatr: 15Vir09'26" +16:12'20" 10 | epVir
Pluto : 16Vir43'17" +17:22'12" e 10 [-] -0.0221147
Algorab : 18Vir40'09" -12:11'36" 10 | deCrv
Spirit : 19Vir22'49" + 0:00'00" d 10 [-] __________

Radial Distance/v
Eart: 0.0000000~
Sun : 0.9904196-
Moon: 0.0026500-
Merc: 1.1356650-
Venu: 1.4255058-
Mars: 1.0805425-
Jupi: 5.6045140-
Satu: 8.3098979-
Uran: 17.9794042+
Nept: 30.3770707+
Plut: 29.8525455+
Node: 0.0024918-
Lili: 0.0027106~

Fundamental Aspects
1: Moon (Cap) Con (Cap) Mercury - orb: a1:16'
2: Moon (Cap) Con (Cap) Venus - orb: s2:59'
3: Venus (Cap) Con (Cap) Antemidhea - orb: s0:54'
4: Sun (Aqu) Tri (Lib) Ascendant - orb: s0:57'
5: Sun (Aqu) Tri [Lib] Uranus - orb: s1:14'
6: Moon (Cap) Sex (Sco) Neptune - orb: a1:00'
7: Moon (Cap) Tri [Vir] Pluto - orb: s1:42'
8: Mercury (Cap) Con (Cap) Venus - orb: s4:16'
9: Mercury (Cap) Sex (Sco) Neptune - orb: s0:16'
10: Venus (Cap) Tri [Vir] Pluto - orb: a1:17'
11: Moon (Cap) Con (Cap) Antemidhea - orb: a2:05'
12: Jupiter (Pis) Squ [Can] Saturn - orb: a2:48'
13: Neptune (Sco) Tri (Pis) Lilith - orb: a0:36'
14: Moon (Cap) Sex (Pis) Lilith - orb: a0:23'
15: Node [Lib] Con (Lib) East Point - orb: s0:37'
16: Mars (Tau) Sex (Pis) Jupiter - orb: a1:48'
17: Venus (Cap) Squ [Lib] Uranus - orb: s2:52'
18: Mercury (Cap) Tri [Vir] Pluto - orb: s2:58'
19: Mercury (Cap) Sex (Pis) Lilith - orb: s0:52'
20: Mercury (Cap) Squ [Lib] Node - orb: a0:56'
21: Neptune (Sco) Sex [Vir] Pluto - orb: s2:42'
22: Moon (Cap) Squ [Lib] Node - orb: a2:12'
23: Venus (Cap) Sex (Sco) Neptune - orb: a4:00'
24: Pluto [Vir] Opp (Pis) Lilith - orb: s2:05'
25: Sun (Aqu) Squ (Sco) Neptune - orb: a5:38'
26: Moon (Cap) Squ [Lib] Uranus - orb: s5:52'
27: Sun (Aqu) Squ (Sco) Fortune - orb: a3:40'

Fiducial Aspects
28: Mars (Tau) Con (Tau) Mintaka - orb: s0:05'
29: Node [Lib] Con (Lib) Zubenelgen - orb: a0:20'
30: Vertex (Gem) Con (Gem) Castor - orb: s0:28'
31: Lilith (Pis) Con (Pis) Alpheratz - orb: a0:42'
----adjudicated by D. Min on November 9, 2001 AD---

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jo

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That sounds like a logical conclusion. You like it here , eh?
Jo
DO you have an accent?
Your wife is a Pisces. She swims anywhere.
[ It was the way he wrote atleast.... [shrug]

jo

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<d...@n.olympian> wrote in message
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Translation: "I love banging my head with a hammer because it feels so good
when I stop."
Jo
I'd better get to bed before I get into trouble here.
Goodnight John Boy.


d...@n.olympian

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the asshole known as daniel joseph min

d...@n.olympian wrote:
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> On 8 Nov 2001, "victor" wrote:
> >d...@n.olympian wrote in message
>
> My immediate impression was Uranus

That's correct, you are an asshole!


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