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DnIspMn

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Feb 1, 2002, 11:30:13 PM2/1/02
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Q1. What is judicial astrology?

A1. Judicial astrology is the transliteration of
the signs, the numbering, of the terrestrial
meridian houses under the rulerships exerted
by the planets from their positions to Earth.
This is similar to transposing music, but is
rightly transposing the music of the spheres
in accordance with the predominant hierarchy
of planetary forces converging here on Earth.

This is accomplished by finding the best fit
of the planets in the terrestrial houses, at
the time and place for which the calculation
of the chart is made. Usually, this is where
the most planets are ruling and exalted, and
where the least are fallen and debilitate by
the transposition of numbering of the houses.
The head and tail of the dragon, and part of
fortune, are most critical to this deduction,
as is discerning the planet of the souljourn.
I've posted charts and horoscopes which show
how this is done by example (see link below).

Horoscopes are generally self-revealing, but
some charts present unique challenges to the
astrologue where more than one transposition
scenario makes it difficult to ascertain the
correct horoscope, or "thema" as it is known
in the ancient Latin tongue: the position of
the signs--the numbering--of the terrestrial
houses, whose house-cusps are defined by the
Earth's axis of rotation at the intersection
of her iris-meridians along the level-sphere
at the ecliptic. The position of these cusps
are fixed by the date, time and geographical
longitude for which each chart is calculated,
but only the numbering is subordinate to the
planets, as determined by their positions to
the Earth in the aforesaid (meridian houses).

This takes years of practice to become adept
at this. Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce are the
most authoritative instructors of astrologia
iudiciarius (judicial astrology) and this is
the primary source of how I learned to do it.

Once you recognize how astronomy & astrology
do verily walk hand-in-hand, then you'll see
that ancient mythology and the S. scriptures
are of one accord. Probably the worst effect
that such blackened recognition will have on
the accomplished practitioner, is that he or
she will realize that this ancient knowledge
has been all but hidden from the world, even
from those in the highest places, of degrees.
Only those who are new at this shall succeed.
As you will see this takes years of practice.

Daniel Joseph Min

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DnIspMn

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Feb 2, 2002, 9:42:45 AM2/2/02
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In article <C5EMWQZY3728...@frog.gilgamesh.org>
DnIspMn <d.j@m.n> wrote:
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> Daniel Joseph Min
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FOAD asshole!

Paul Bramscher

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Feb 14, 2002, 10:01:23 AM2/14/02
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You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?

Jean Guernon

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:01:19 PM2/14/02
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Exactly, and in those days although astrology was used even in medecine
even as astroniomym, judicial astrology was simply the making up of the
chart, not the interpretation of anything. Simply, the way the planet
were at a certain time, like a judiciary inquest. Very strict.

The only astrology accepted by the Church until the council of Trentus.
So if he wants to have an accurate interpretation of the term, he has to
read the judgement of the councile of Trentus in 1564.

J.

Paul Bramscher a écrit :

*Philip*

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:05:51 PM2/14/02
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Paul Bramscher wrote:
>
> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?

You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.


--

Roddy Nyall

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:22:28 PM2/14/02
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Tell us what is, then, if gravity isn't it.

Then tell us what Astrology's "effects" are.

Edmond Wollmann

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:28:39 PM2/14/02
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Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
years now.
I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
they still persist.
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. arctur...@earthlink.net (remove-)
© 2002 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
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http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/

Asternomen

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:38:25 PM2/14/02
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**LEGIS CANTIO CONTRA INEPTOS CRITICOS**

Quos legent hosce versus mature censunto
sapientia enim huius mundi stultitia est
apud Deum scriptum est enim conprehendam
sapientes in astutia eorum:

Profanum vulgus & inscium ne attrectato
Omnesq: Astronomi, Astrologi, Blennis, Barbari
(id est et omnis qui amat et facit mendacium)
et qui non est inventus in libro vitae
scriptus missus est in stagnum ignis
procul sunto ergo procul estote

Qui aliter facit, is rite sacer esto
dicentes amen benedictio et claritas
et sapientia et gratiarum actio et
honor et virtus et fortitudo Deo
nostro in saecula saeculorum Amen

Hope that helps,
Daniel Joseph Min

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*Philip*

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:34:55 PM2/14/02
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I don't know what the effect of the planets are on human affairs. Paul
postulated that since gravity isn't strong enough that Astrology is
invalid. Sounds more to me that he merely showed that gravity isn't the
cause of Astrology's _apparent_ effects.

--

Sharyn

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:41:30 PM2/14/02
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in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at

Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:

> *Philip* wrote:
>>
>> Paul Bramscher wrote:
>>>
>>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable
>>> force
>>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
>>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
>>
>> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>
> Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> years now.
> I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> they still persist.

Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
anuser.
--
Sharyn
PF Chang's Crab Wonton Award Winner
Member GC of A.A. (oYo)
Alt.astrology.tropical
http://www.algebra.com/~aat/

"Astrology tells me you are a backstabbing superficial bitch."
--Ed Wollmann, professed astrological counselor and lover of women.

el...@no.spam

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:47:17 PM2/14/02
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In article <3C6BF3...@spamcop.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>>You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.

>Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage
>for 6 years now. I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and
>referenced physics and they still persist.

Whine is not the same as refuting, Wollkook. So far you've
completely failed to show astrology has any effects at all so
why would it being gravity or not matter? You've been completely
unable to defend your claims but still you pronounce your
success. That's not very honest.

*Philip*

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Feb 14, 2002, 12:51:24 PM2/14/02
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> *Philip* wrote:
> >
> > Paul Bramscher wrote:
> > >
> > > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> >
> > You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>
> Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> years now.
> I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> they still persist.
> --
> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. arctur...@earthlink.net (remove-)

Hello Mr. Wollman,

I feel like I already know you. It seems everywhere I go in the usenet
you are there with a pack hounding you. I don't know much about
Astrology but it seems to me that to _disprove_ it would require some
sophisticated analysis of large amounts of real life data looking for
the presence or absence of correlation.


--

Edmond Wollmann

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:08:16 PM2/14/02
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Sharyn wrote:
>
> in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at
> Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:
>
> > *Philip* wrote:
> >>
> >> Paul Bramscher wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable
> >>> force
> >>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> >>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> >>
> >> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
> >
> > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > years now.
> > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > they still persist.
>
> Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
> anuser.

What forces "cause" astrology to work?

Edmond Wollmann

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:11:08 PM2/14/02
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*Philip* wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> > *Philip* wrote:

> > > Paul Bramscher wrote:

> > > > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > > > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > > > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?

> > > You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.

> > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > years now.
> > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > they still persist.

> Hello Mr. Wollman,



> I feel like I already know you. It seems everywhere I go in the usenet
> you are there with a pack hounding you. I don't know much about
> Astrology but it seems to me that to _disprove_ it would require some
> sophisticated analysis of large amounts of real life data looking for
> the presence or absence of correlation.

You notice I said refuted--No one can ever disprove or prove anything.
The only reason these abusers hound me is because I defeat them in
EVERYway.

Astrology works, but it is NOT a science.


--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. arctur...@earthlink.net (remove-)

Roddy Nyall

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:33:53 PM2/14/02
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Convicted criminal Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> *Philip* wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > *Philip* wrote:
>
> > > > Paul Bramscher wrote:
>
> > > > > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > > > > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > > > > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
>
> > > > You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>
> > > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > > years now.
> > > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > > they still persist.
>
> > Hello Mr. Wollman,
>
> > I feel like I already know you. It seems everywhere I go in the usenet
> > you are there with a pack hounding you. I don't know much about
> > Astrology but it seems to me that to _disprove_ it would require some
> > sophisticated analysis of large amounts of real life data looking for
> > the presence or absence of correlation.
>
> You notice I said refuted--No one can ever disprove or prove anything.

Then why do you often say you have proved something, you idiot?

Hey Ed!

Does this bug you:?

Database: SAN DIEGO COUNTY CRIMINAL INDEX
Data Thru: 01-31-99
Case Number: M758395 File Date: 06/17/1998
Court: SAN DIEGO MUNICIPAL

Defendant: WOLLMANN EDMOND
Convicted: Unlawful Entry. Misdemeanor. Fine and Probation

Roddy Nyall

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:36:28 PM2/14/02
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Remorseless child killer Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Sharyn wrote:
> >
> > in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at
> > Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:
> >
> > > *Philip* wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Paul Bramscher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable
> > >>> force
> > >>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > >>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> > >>
> > >> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
> > >
> > > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > > years now.
> > > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > > they still persist.
> >
> > Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
> > anuser.
>
> What forces "cause" astrology to work?

None!

But in another post you mentioned your criminal record.

Why do you say you don't have a criminal record when this exists at the
SD county courthouse, Ed?:

Asternomikos

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:39:32 PM2/14/02
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"*Philip*" jumped ad hoc to a conclusion:

>he merely showed that gravity isn't the
>cause of Astrology's _apparent_ effects.
>
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Not so! Since all things being relative, gravity
has very much to do with astronomy and astrology,
empirical observation -and- reasonable deduction,
life's holistic experiences -and- lucid thinking.

E.g., were it not for gravity, life would not be
found, neither the Earth, neither observation of
that which exists nor logical deduction based on
the aforesaid would be found to exist in reality.
No observer would be, as with nothing to observe!

Were it not for gravity, the planets, the heavens
above the Earth, neither the Earth herself, these
wouldn't have formed in their sidereal pitch keys
defining their evening-morning, superior-inferior
glomes in the iris. Therefore neither observation
nor deduction would be found to exist anywhere in
the cosmos. In fact, gravity enables the universe
who enables all life: animal, vegetable & mineral,
seeing the universal vision of the eye of the Sky.

Daniel Joseph Min

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*Philip*

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:47:25 PM2/14/02
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I think it goes without saying. If gravity did not exist then we would
not exist. But why does gravity have to be the answer to the question of
Astrology's effect on people?

--

Spamster

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:58:48 PM2/14/02
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> Sharyn wrote:
> >
> > in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at
> > Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:
> >
> > > *Philip* wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Paul Bramscher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable
> > >>> force
> > >>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > >>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> > >>
> > >> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
> > >
> > > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > > years now.
> > > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > > they still persist.
> >
> > Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
> > anuser.
>
> What forces "cause" astrology to work?

None.


Spamster

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:00:00 PM2/14/02
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> *Philip* wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > *Philip* wrote:
>
> > > > Paul Bramscher wrote:
>
> > > > > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > > > > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > > > > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
>
> > > > You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>
> > > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
> > > years now.
> > > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
> > > they still persist.
>
> > Hello Mr. Wollman,
>
> > I feel like I already know you. It seems everywhere I go in the usenet
> > you are there with a pack hounding you. I don't know much about
> > Astrology but it seems to me that to _disprove_ it would require some
> > sophisticated analysis of large amounts of real life data looking for
> > the presence or absence of correlation.
>
> You notice I said refuted--No one can ever disprove or prove anything.
> The only reason these abusers hound me is because I defeat them in
> EVERYway.
>

You call your NANAS whining defeat? BWAHAHAHAHA!!


Pete Phoenix

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Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:3C6BFC...@spamcop.net...

> Sharyn wrote:
> >
> > in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at
> > Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:
> >
> > > *Philip* wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Paul Bramscher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a
more measurable
> > >>> force
> > >>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and
astrology was
> > >>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> > >>
> > >> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's
effects.
> > >
> > > Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for
6
> > > years now.
> > > I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics
and
> > > they still persist.
> >
> > Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics"
my butt,
> > anuser.
>
> What forces "cause" astrology to work?

What forces cause you to be such a plagiarist nonce?
--
-%-
Pete
"In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God"
Alt.astrology.tropical
http://www.algebra.com/~aat/

el...@no.spam

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:24:20 PM2/14/02
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In article <3C6BFC...@spamcop.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>What forces "cause" astrology to work?

First show astrology does work. Then you can worry about
mythical forces.

Asternomikos

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:30:33 PM2/14/02
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"*Philip*" interjected too late:

>I think it goes without saying.
>
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What I have written I have written.


>
>If gravity did not exist then we would
>not exist.
>

Much rather: the entire Universe would not exist,
and that's a whole lot bigger than we, my friend.


>
>But why does gravity have to be the answer to the question of
>Astrology's effect on people?
>

C5Q53

La loy du Sol & Venus contendus
The law of the Sun & Venus contended,

Appropriant l'esprit de prophetie:
Appropriating the spirit of prophecy:

Ne l'vn ne l'autre ne seront entendus,
Not the one nor the other neither will be heard,

Par Sol tiendra la loy du grand Messie.
By Sun will hold the law of the great Messiah.
-interlinear translation by Daniel Joseph Min


Hope that helps.


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Jim Phillips

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:31:01 PM2/14/02
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What are these "_apparent_ effects"?

--
Jim Phillips, jphillip at bcpl dot net
"Don't fight like a girl, Janet, fight like a woman!" - BatManuel

Jim Phillips

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:30:03 PM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, *Philip* wrote:

What do you propose as a mechanism for astrology's effects? Was
this mechanism working before the planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were
discovered by astronomers? Does a larger planet have a greater effect than
a smaller planet? What if any effect does the Moon have? The Galilean
moons of Jupiter are all much larger than Pluto--should they be considered
planets, too? What about Saturn's moon, Titan? What's the minimum size for
a solar system body to be considered to have an astrological influence?
As you can see, I have many sincere questions. I'll even accept "I
don't know" or "It's unexplainable", but would like you to then acknowledge
that astrology is closer to a superstition than a science (I don't have a
problem with astrology as a superstition, but I do have a problem with
astrology as a science).

Jim Phillips

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:32:24 PM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, *Philip* wrote:

Hah! If you think astrology is hard to disprove, try Santa Claus,
or the Easter Bunny!

*Philip*

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Feb 14, 2002, 2:39:15 PM2/14/02
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Well Min... I'll leave you to do your thing. I'm outta this thread.

Cheers!

--

Asternomikos

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Feb 14, 2002, 3:04:53 PM2/14/02
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"*Philip*" wrote:
>I'm outta this thread.
>
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I think it goes without saying. ;)

Enjoy!
Daniel

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*Philip*

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Jim Phillips wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, *Philip* wrote:
>
> > Roddy Nyall wrote:
> > >
> > > *Philip* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul Bramscher wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > > > > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > > > > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
> > > >
> > > > You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
> > >
> > > Tell us what is, then, if gravity isn't it.
> > >
> > > Then tell us what Astrology's "effects" are.
> >
> > I don't know what the effect of the planets are on human affairs. Paul
> > postulated that since gravity isn't strong enough that Astrology is
> > invalid. Sounds more to me that he merely showed that gravity isn't the
> > cause of Astrology's _apparent_ effects.
>
> What are these "_apparent_ effects"?


that a lot of people like it? Explain that using physics. Me
personally... I wouldn't consult astrology unless I was stuck on a
problem choosing between options then Astrology is at least as good as a
coin toss.


--

el...@no.spam

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Feb 14, 2002, 3:14:00 PM2/14/02
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In article <3C6BFD...@spamcop.net>,

Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>> I feel like I already know you.

Bummer.

>You notice I said refuted--

But you refuted nothing, Wollmann. Your claim is a lie.

--

Emperor 'Ostwind' Norton III

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:00:40 PM2/14/02
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Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> spleniated...

>Sharyn wrote:
>> Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
>> anuser.
>What forces "cause" astrology to work?

Where's the clear and referenced physics, fucknuts?

ash
['Anytime, we've only been waiting since 1996.']

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Emperor 'Ostwind' Norton III

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:02:14 PM2/14/02
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Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> spleniated...

>You notice I said refuted--No one can ever disprove or prove anything.

If you can't prove or disprove anything, you can't refute anything
either.

>The only reason these abusers hound me is because I defeat them in
>EVERYway.

Duh.

>Astrology works, but it is NOT a science.

But they're all frauds, Edmo, or so you said.

ash
['So you like it from boths ends, huh, fucknuts?']

el...@no.spam

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Feb 14, 2002, 7:30:10 PM2/14/02
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In article <csWa8.30163$Re2.2...@bin6.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,

Emperor 'Ostwind' Norton III <gabbagab...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>>Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced
>>>physics" my butt, anuser.

>>What forces "cause" astrology to work?

> Where's the clear and referenced physics, fucknuts?

He lied about that part.

Sharyn

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Feb 14, 2002, 8:07:37 PM2/14/02
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in article 3C6BFC...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at

Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 1:08 PM:

> Sharyn wrote:
>>
>> in article 3C6BF3...@spamcop.net, Edmond Wollmann at
>> Arctu...@spamcop.net wrote on 2/14/2002 12:28 PM:
>>
>>> *Philip* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul Bramscher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more
>>>>> measurable
>>>>> force
>>>>> on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology
>>>>> was
>>>>> replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
>>>>
>>>> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>>>
>>> Exactly, these abusers have stuck with that tired old garbage for 6
>>> years now.
>>> I have refuted them 1000 times with clear and referenced physics and
>>> they still persist.
>>
>> Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
>> anuser.
>
> What forces "cause" astrology to work?

<sigh> I don't know, Edmo, do you? And please, don't even bother to mention
it if it's not recognizable science, or at least a logical, testable
hypothesis that is not rendered immediately and obviously false by current
scientific knowledge (ie, your "asteroid belt was a planet" nonsense). You
can blather on about your ideas all day long, but if they are not
verifiable, then there is no reason for anyone else to believe them.
Certainly YOUR word is not good enough.

Maybe superstring theory, if it is someday accepted as a valid TOE, will
have some answers for us about astrology, and maybe not. I do know one
thing, you have never referenced ANY physics here to explain astrology, so
quit pretending you have. Do you think that everyone just forgets that you
run away as soon as any questions start getting too uncomfortable or
technical for you? I've seen you talk to knowledgeable, professional people
in the fields of astronomy and science as if they were your intellectual
inferiors; and rather than just admit you are out of your league, you spout
some silly "ALL THAT IS" stuff which, while it MAY be true, is not testable,
and therefore of no value except as a personal belief. Is it really so
difficult to admit that you haven't a clue? It's ok not to know WHY
something seems to work, you know. Lack of a known mechanism is no reason to
stop investigating a phenomenon you believe to be worth studying, and it is
certainly no reason to just make stuff up.

aam added cause it gets your knickers in a twist

Sharyn

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Feb 14, 2002, 8:54:52 PM2/14/02
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in article D4YCN4NH3730...@frog.gilgamesh.org, Asternomikos at

asterl...@olympvs.mons wrote on 2/14/2002 2:30 PM:

> "*Philip*" interjected too late:
>> I think it goes without saying.
>>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> What I have written I have written.
>>
>> If gravity did not exist then we would
>> not exist.
>>
> Much rather: the entire Universe would not exist,
> and that's a whole lot bigger than we, my friend.
>>
>> But why does gravity have to be the answer to the question of
>> Astrology's effect on people?
>>
> C5Q53
>
> La loy du Sol & Venus contendus
> The law of the Sun & Venus contended,
>
> Appropriant l'esprit de prophetie:
> Appropriating the spirit of prophecy:
>
> Ne l'vn ne l'autre ne seront entendus,
> Not the one nor the other neither will be heard,
>
> Par Sol tiendra la loy du grand Messie.
> By Sun will hold the law of the great Messiah.
> -interlinear translation by Daniel Joseph Min
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>

Oh for gawd's sake. It helps establish that you are a frootcake.

sci.astro snecked, why do you spam them all the time? Your stuff is not
astronomy.

Sharyn

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Feb 14, 2002, 9:15:06 PM2/14/02
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in article csWa8.30163$Re2.2...@bin6.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com, Emperor
'Ostwind' Norton III at gabbagab...@mindspring.com wrote on 2/14/2002
5:00 PM:

> Edmond Wollmann <Arctu...@spamcop.net> spleniated...
>> Sharyn wrote:
>>> Oh, you have NOT, you big fat liar! "Clear and referenced physics" my butt,
>>> anuser.
>> What forces "cause" astrology to work?
>
> Where's the clear and referenced physics, fucknuts?
>

tssss, Evasion King strikes again



> ash
> ['Anytime, we've only been waiting since 1996.']

--

Emperor 'Ostwind' Norton III

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Feb 15, 2002, 4:05:07 PM2/15/02
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Sharyn <sha...@exis.net> spleniated...

>Maybe superstring theory, if it is someday accepted as a valid TOE, will
>have some answers for us about astrology, and maybe not.

Nah. Nothin' to do with it. Too teeny tiny.
But this might:
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/index.html

>something seems to work, you know. Lack of a known mechanism is no reason to
>stop investigating a phenomenon you believe to be worth studying, and it is
>certainly no reason to just make stuff up.

Ed never makes stuff up! He just plagarizes everything!

>aam added cause it gets your knickers in a twist

ash
['Except CAKE, fucknuts!']

Joe Jefferson

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Feb 18, 2002, 8:33:56 PM2/18/02
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*Philip* wrote:

>
> Jim Phillips wrote:
> >
> > What are these "_apparent_ effects"?
>
> that a lot of people like it? Explain that using physics.

Why does that need to be explained at all? A lot of people like
strawberry ice cream too. Big deal.

> Me
> personally... I wouldn't consult astrology unless I was stuck on a
> problem choosing between options then Astrology is at least as good as a
> coin toss.

But less useful than consulting the entrails of a chicken, since at
least with that method you can eat the chicken afterward.

--

Joe of Castle Jefferson
http://www.mindspring.com/~jjstrshp/
Site updated November 25th, 2001.

"Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the
poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the
hand of the wicked." - Psalm 82:3-4.

Paul Bramscher

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Feb 19, 2002, 10:39:29 AM2/19/02
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Who said gravity? I said "the force of a ladybug". That would include all of the
senses: touch, sight, smell, sound, etc. and all of the resulting forces/influences that
a ladybug might assert on your shoulder.

*Philip* wrote:

> Paul Bramscher wrote:
> >
> > You realize that a ladybug landing on your shoulder exerts a more measurable force
> > on your person than the position of any of the planets -- and astrology was
> > replaced with astronomy about 500 years ago?
>
> You are assuming that gravity is responsible for Astrology's effects.
>

> --

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