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Colin

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Oct 4, 2002, 12:53:49 PM10/4/02
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Hey guys. Ive been trying to update RedHat all morning, no dice. Ill
boot from the cd, and i can see that the kernel is being loaded. When
it comes to the screen that asks whether or not i want to test, if I
test, it fails, and if i skip, it seems to freeze, and i can hear the
cd spinning. Ive checked the md5sums twice, they both said the iso was
perfect, and ive re-burned the image three times, with all three
having turned out successful. Anyone have any ideas?
thanks !

Brett E. Dufault

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Oct 4, 2002, 5:20:50 PM10/4/02
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On Friday 04 October 2002 12:53 pm, Colin wrote:
> if I test, it fails, and if i skip, it seems to freeze,

Well, failing the mediacheck test is a *really* good sign that the
installation's going to fail. :-) If the mediacheck can't read some of
the data on the installation CD, then the actual installation program is
also going to have the same problem.

> Ive checked the md5sums twice, they both said the iso was perfect,
> and ive re-burned the image three times, with all three having turned
> out successful. Anyone have any ideas?

Are trying to do the installation on the same computer that you burned the
discs with? And using the burner as the CD-ROM drive for the installation?
Or are you installing on a different computer, or with some other CD-ROM
drive? (It's completely possible that the disc can be read fine in the
burner, but still fail when used in a different drive. Some drives just
don't like particular types of media, other drives will read anything you
toss in them. That's one of the reasons that Red Hat added the mediacheck
test.)

- If it's the same computer, and you're doing the installation using the
burner to read the discs, then I don't have any really good ideas. It
burned it, it thought it burned the disc correctly, it ought to work.
Possibly try cranking the record rate all the way down to 1x and make a
fresh installation disc. (I haven't seen that make a difference myself,
but other people say it can help. YMMV.)

- If it's the same computer, but you're using a different CD-ROM drive to
boot the installation discs, try booting with the disc in the CD burner
instead. It wrote the disc, it thought it wrote the disc successfully, it
ought to be able to read the disc. If you can't boot off the burner
directly, try making an installation floppy -- boot off the floppy, and
tell it to use the CD burner to do the installation.

- If you're installing on a different computer, with a different CD-ROM
drive, try buying a different brand of CD-R media. Take a look at the dye
color and reflective surface on the media that *isn't* working, then pick
up a 3-/5-pack of something that uses a different dye/reflective color.
Burn the first installation CD with the new media, try booting off that and
rerunning the mediacheck test. If it passes on the first disc, go burn the
other two.

- Alternative if you're on a different computer and you're comfortable
doing hardware work is to swap the burner out of your first computer and
put it into the soon-to-be-Linux system, and try the mediacheck test again.
Again, that's going back to the idea of "the burner wrote it, the burner
thought everything was okay, the burner should be able to read it for an
installation". But only try that if you're comfortable with pulling your
hardware apart and tossing pieces around...if you've never tried it before,
well, this just isn't the time to make your life more complicated. :-)

That's my 2c. Anyone else?

Good luck!
--Brett

Colin

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Oct 4, 2002, 9:56:19 PM10/4/02
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Its the same machine, but i did the burn from a windows partition. im
using an external usb burner, so there isnt any way for me to burn
under, or use the drive for reading under linux.
Im using a Creative dvd-rom to install, which worked fine for 7.0.
I've got the cdrom that came with the machine sitting around here
somewhere, ill throw that in tonight and give it a shot again.
Thanks again for the reply !
-Cheers

Brett E. Dufault

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:35:50 AM10/5/02
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I think the old drive sounds like a good plan. If that fails for some
reason, and you're feeling adventurous, try making an installation floppy
and booting up with it. The Linux 2.4 kernels used in the later RH 7.x
releases (and in the 8.0 release) have support for a lot of USB CD-ROM
drives. I don't know if the installation kernel has that support or if
it's been stripped out to keep the kernel smaller, but there's a chance
that once the kernel starts running off the installation floppy that it'll
actually recognize your USB burner. If I hadn't loaned my USB burner out
to my brother, I'd give it a shot...it'd be kinda cool to see if that
worked. :-)

Good luck!
--Brett

Colin

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Oct 5, 2002, 2:02:55 PM10/5/02
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The old cdrom fixed it, so im good to go. But do i really need all
three cds? ive only got the first downloaded, but after i saw that my
final install rounded off to around 4 gigs, i got a little hesitant
;-)
Thanks again for the help !

Brett E. Dufault

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:19:29 PM10/5/02
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On Saturday 05 October 2002 02:02 pm, Colin wrote:

> The old cdrom fixed it, so im good to go. But do i really need all
> three cds?

You'll definitely need the first two, and some configurations will need the
third CD. My first two machines were "just use the defaults" installs, and
only used the first 2 CDs. I've done several subsequent installations
where I needed the third CD. Definitely need the 3rd if you select all the
KDE-related options. If you want to play it safe, get the ISOs for all
three of the installation CDs. If you like a little danger, you can give
it a shot with just the first two. :-)

> ive only got the first downloaded, but after i saw that my
> final install rounded off to around 4 gigs, i got a little hesitant
> ;-)

Hehe -- yes, it's a big puppy! You can definitely skip the 4th & 5th CDs
unless you really want the source RPMS -- that's the only stuff on those
CDs. The doc ISO might be good to pick up eventually, but you can always
read the docs online from Red Hat's site.

Definitely glance through the RELEASE-NOTES.html file on the first CD --
there's some important hints in there about enabling IDE DMA, might save
you some headaches when you try to watch movies on your DVD drive after the
install's done. :-)

> Thanks again for the help !

Quite welcome! Now go put on a big pot of coffee and get back to
downloading those ISOs!

--Brett

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