More Angevin Bastards
John Carmi Parsons
Henry II_, pp. 85 note, 319: Eyton also credits Geoffrey V of Anjou with
a natural daughter Hadewide/Hawise, wife of Raoul, "prince" de Deols d.
1177, and mother of Dionise de Deols d. 1221, wife of Baldwin de Reviers
earl of Devon d.s.p. 1188. My Deols notes are not immediately to hand,
but I'll try to track them down and see if there's anything to confirm or
refute Eyton's statement. My recollection, however, is that my account of
the Deols lineage is from a fairly old and perhaps not too reliable work.
(2) Given-Wilson/Curteis omit at least two and possibly three of King
John's natural children:
i) Maud, abbess of Barking; royal assent to her election 5 Aug. 1247, and
licence to elect her successor 6 Feb. 1252 (VCH Essex, ii, pp. 120 and
notes); Dugdale, _Monasticon Anglicanum_ (Record Commn edition), i, pp.
437, 441).
ii) Bartholomew, a Dominican friar; had a dispensation for illegitimacy so
he could minister to Christian souls in the orders of priesthood to which
he was already ordained, and to be promoted to the episcopate, Jan. 1252;
became papal chaplain, May 1253; permission to converse while at table
with others of his congregation or with Franciscans, Aug. 1254 (Bliss,
_Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers Relating to England, Scotland
and Wales_, i, pp. 281, 286, 305).
iii) Lucia, d. 18 Jan. 1234. She is known only as a _nepta_ of William
Longespee, earl of Salisbury, natural son of Henry II. She is, however,
so designated at an early date at which she could not possibly have been
his granddaughter (one of the two possible interpretations of the Latin
_nepta_), so she must have been a niece. _Complete Peerage_, i, p. 126
note "b" realizes that this could have several possible meanings: Lucia
could have been John's daughter, but she could also have been a daughter
of Henry the Young King, Richard I, Geoffrey of Brittany, of a uterine
brother or sister of William Longespee or even of William's wife (though
the evidence cited does not strongly support this last possibility). If
she were a daughter of the Young King, however, she could have been born
no later than 1184, so that she would have been about 34 at her first
marriage--a rather advanced age. Likewise if she was a daughter of Geoffrey
of Brittany, she could have been born no later than 1187 and would have been
around 31. If a daughter of Richard I, born no later than 1190 and 28 at her
first marriage. (None of this is necessarily impossible, of course, but it
*is* very unlikely.) Since the true identity of William Longespee's mother
is contested--except that she was NOT Rosamund Clifford--we can't say anything
authoritatively about his uterine sublings (if any) or their issue. And as
noted, the evidence _CP_ cites is not very conclusive that Lucia was a niece
of Longespee's wife. So we're left with the greater possibilities that she
was either John's daughter or a uterine niece of William Longespee's mother.
Lucia married, first, in 1218 Robert de Berkeley as his second
wife; he d.s.p. by her, 1220. She m. second Hugh de Gournay or Gurnay d.
1238 by whom she had one daughter, Juliana, m. William Bardolf (d. before
1294), ancestors of the lord Bardolf. (In addition to _CP_ as already
cited, s.vv. Gournay, Berkeley, and Bardolf.)
John Parsons