Roja_Loca Kicks Rothwell's Ass in alt.california
George Kleist
> "Stan de SD" <standesd_DI...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<Rheh8.38655$ZC3.3...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> > ...shall I cotninue?
>
> No, not really. Your rants and raves are becoming as boring as sin.
> You offer nothing constructive, just more of the same right-wing,
> self-centered bullshit that apologizes for the greed of your status
> quo stalwarts while denigrating the opportunism of those who would
> rise above the level that you would like to keep them at...all to your
> advantage but not to theirs. Since you don't participate in social
> programs of the lower order, it befits you to slander those who do.
> Tough shit, Rothwell! You'd have little to do in life (you don't seem
> to be "employed" on any regular basis) if it weren't for your
> compulsive need to find "fifth columns" between all the liberal lines
> that you read in usenet. Oh, and there is a fifth column.....YOU!
> You're the most subversive sonofabitch in alt.california. This makes
> you "very cheap labor" for the better-off-than-Stan society. This, in
> my book, constitutes sycophancy on your part. Yes, Spammo, you are an
> obsequious, obsolenscent ass licker whose prospects look very dim for
> the future. You're the unemployed engineer in that film, "Falling
> Down," still toting a stale baloney sandwich in your dented attache
> case wherein also resides the engineering tools of a previous
> lifetime. You've been had, Stain, by the very same people that you
> would hold in esteem. Not to do so, of course, would inadvertantly
> destroy that "Vital Lie" that you live by and push you to edge. Too
> bad you didn't, like Timo, cash in on the great Dot-Commie give-away
> programs for clueless techies. If you had, you could be sitting on
> your fat ass figuring out how to increase your stock of arsenal for
> the coming crises instead of ejaculating all over usenet. Turn in
> your time-card, Spammo. You're fired! "No soup forrrr YOU!"
>
> > Their agenda is "pro-Latino" only in that it offers incentives for
> > individuals who don't care to assimilate to come to the US, take advantage
> > of our generosity, and place social and economic burdens on US citizens. In
> > terms of offering disincentives to become educated and economically
> > self-sufficient members of US society, it's very anti-Latino. Dems use them
> > to further their own agenda, with little regard for their long-term
> > welfare...
>
> And right-wingers use latinos as cheap labor to foster their own
> dreams, but those dreams are more a nightmare for cheap labor than an
> opportunity to improve their own lot. The "free lunch" is at the top.
> The crumbs are always on the lower level. Economic self-sufficience
> is difficult to achieve without the programs that you so despise.
> Where the hell would Lee Iococca be without government welfare?
> Probably writing "How To..." books instead of self-serving egotistical
> biographies. If the market creates a certain class of people, it had
> best be prepared to provide for that group, or face the inevitable
> consequences of it's shortsightedness. The Riot of '92 in L.A. after
> the Police Verdict in the Rodney King trial should give you fair
> warning about the limits of a "rigged economy" that favors some but
> not others. Or will it take 56 blows from a truncheon to knock some
> sense into your head?
> >
> > How many wind up at menial jobs with no opportunities for advancement because > they don't have the language and communications skills necessary to land jobs > with some semblance of a career path?
>
> Times have changed, Spammo. Conservative greed invited hordes of
> cheap Latino labor into this nation decades ago. The progeny of those
> former immigrants will not continue in the fields and kitchens. Ergo,
> more newer waves of immigrants have come about. Hence the need for
> bi-lingual skills now...and more and more it is the case that "Spanish
> only" fits the bill for many new jobs created by a market. Time for
> the rest of us to get the new "language and communications skills
> necessary" to fit the demographic changes. The "pochos" are getting
> kicked aside as quickly as the Anglo in this new global economy. The
> day is almost at hand when *your* "language skills" will have merely a
> non-lucrative entertainment value in usenet..."Ya veras, Staino."
> Time for you to go back to the hallowed and liberal educational
> institutions to get re-vamped for changes that your conservative
> cohorts helped create.
> >
> > In reality, you're not able to refute my arguments, so you're looking for an
> > excuse to weasel out of your previous challenge. Once again, another
> > marginal player jumps in the ring, then wants out a short time later when he
> > can't get his way.
>
> You're not in reality, Spammo. You're living in dream world of
> wanna-be rich conservatives whose most significant contribution has
> been to substantiate the greed of many who can buy and sell your ass
> in a New York second. Thus you refute your own arguments and deny the
> rest of us the pleasure of drop-kicking your insipid ass to the nether
> world of non entities. You can't kill a man whose already hung
> himself. :O)
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Stan's having a yard sale in the alley behind his Garage Studio this
coming weekend. The ad in the Sunnyvale Sun reads: "Rummage sale for
the needy."
Stan de SD
responses from all the regulars there who told you what a bunch of nutcases
you two are? For all the faults of alt.california, it's clearly a more
intellectual groups than your little coast woods circle-jerk.
"George Kleist" <grun...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> roja...@bigfoot.com (Roja_Loca) wrote in message
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> > "Stan de SD" <standesd_DI...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<Rheh8.38655$ZC3.3...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> > > ...shall I cotninue?
> >
> > No, not really. Your rants and raves are becoming as boring as sin.
But you are so obsessed with me, that you post my name all the time, and
follw me around like one of those little rat-dogs that nips and the ankles,
and goes "Yip!Yip!Yip!"
> > You offer nothing constructive, just more of the same right-wing,
> > self-centered bullshit that apologizes for the greed of your status
> > quo stalwarts while denigrating the opportunism of those who would
> > rise above the level that you would like to keep them at..
Funny, but I'm the proponent of self-motivation and opportunity, and you're
the one telling the crowd at large that they can only subsist on government
handouts. Now what is this bit about "denigrating" those who try to rise
above???
> .all to your
> > advantage but not to theirs. Since you don't participate in social
> > programs of the lower order, it befits you to slander those who do.
I don't participate in hypocrital shows of false compassion, or using the
homeless for my own agenda, as the militant kooks do who think it's just
grand for derelict to wander into a downtown business center, and harrass
those who work for a living.
> > Tough shit, Rothwell! You'd have little to do in life (you don't seem
> > to be "employed" on any regular basis) if it weren't for your
> > compulsive need to find "fifth columns" between all the liberal lines
> > that you read in usenet.
Nice to see that you can't come up with any specific criticisms w/r/t my
political or economic views, just the usual mindless invective...
> > Oh, and there is a fifth column.....YOU!
> > You're the most subversive sonofabitch in alt.california.
Coming from an obvious left-wink kook like you, I feel honored. When's the
awards banquet?
> > This makes
> > you "very cheap labor" for the better-off-than-Stan society. This, in
> > my book, constitutes sycophancy on your part. Yes, Spammo, you are an
> > obsequious, obsolenscent ass licker whose prospects look very dim for
> > the future. You're the unemployed engineer in that film, "Falling
> > Down," still toting a stale baloney sandwich in your dented attache
> > case wherein also resides the engineering tools of a previous
> > lifetime. You've been had, Stain, by the very same people that you
> > would hold in esteem. Not to do so, of course, would inadvertantly
> > destroy that "Vital Lie" that you live by and push you to edge. Too
> > bad you didn't, like Timo, cash in on the great Dot-Commie give-away
> > programs for clueless techies. If you had, you could be sitting on
> > your fat ass figuring out how to increase your stock of arsenal for
> > the coming crises instead of ejaculating all over usenet. Turn in
> > your time-card, Spammo. You're fired! "No soup forrrr YOU!"
George, once again you remind us why the Left is flailing. You don't control
the issues or discourse anymore, and your movement has lost the initiative.
I spend less than 5% of my Usenet time in scruz.general, yet drive the topic
of conversation ON YOUR HOME TURF! Face it, you're a redendancy around here.
I will continue to steer the discourse, and you will continue to flail
wildly...
> > > Their agenda is "pro-Latino" only in that it offers incentives for
> > > individuals who don't care to assimilate to come to the US, take
advantage
> > > of our generosity, and place social and economic burdens on US
citizens. In
> > > terms of offering disincentives to become educated and economically
> > > self-sufficient members of US society, it's very anti-Latino. Dems use
them
> > > to further their own agenda, with little regard for their long-term
> > > welfare...
> >
> > And right-wingers use latinos as cheap labor to foster their own
> > dreams, but those dreams are more a nightmare for cheap labor than an
> > opportunity to improve their own lot.
Yet, if Lefty Liberals such as yourself were so concerned with the linited
earning power of the Latinos, you would challenge the current ESL system
that cripples their ability to learn English, assimilate into the
mainstream, and improve their economic conditions. Yet, you can't even
discuss issues rationally, much less offer any constructive proposals.
You're consumed in your own hysteria, and effectively marginalized.
> > The "free lunch" is at the top.
> > The crumbs are always on the lower level. Economic self-sufficience
> > is difficult to achieve without the programs that you so despise.
Yet those who stay away from such programs move up the economic ladder much
faster. That seems to blow a hole in your conclusions right there.
> > Where the hell would Lee Iococca be without government welfare?
I never supported handouts for Chrysler, so that one isn't going to work.
> >. The Riot of '92 in L.A. after
> > the Police Verdict in the Rodney King trial should give you fair
> > warning about the limits of a "rigged economy" that favors some but
> > not others.
Had nothing to do with your non-existent "rigged economy". Had EVERYTHING to
do with press coverage that was inflammatory and distorted in nature. Our
same press that is afraid to show pictures of people falling out of the WTC
after the 9/11 attacks because it didn't want to "arouse anger" is the same
one that showed the last 8 seconds of the King video ad nauseum (editing the
part where the other occupant got out of the car and was handcuffed w/o a
scuffle). The political agenda and their desired results determined what was
shown, and what wasn't...
> > Or will it take 56 blows from a truncheon to knock some
> > sense into your head?
I have enough sense not to commit a felony (armed robbery), lead the LAPD on
a one-hour chase at speeds approaching 100 MPH, act like a crazed PCP fiend
when pulled over, and forcibly resist arrest, like Mr. Low-IQ "can't we all
just get along" King, who STILL continues to get in trouble to this day,
despite his multimillion-dollar settlement that could have gotten him out of
the country and paid for fee food, pussy, and dope for life. Rodney King got
in trouble with the law for the same reason that 90%+ of criminals go to
jail - for acting stupid. He deserves no synmpathy from you, me, or anyone
else.
> > > How many wind up at menial jobs with no opportunities for advancement
because > they don't have the language and communications skills necessary
to land jobs > with some semblance of a career path?
> >
> > Times have changed, Spammo. Conservative greed invited hordes of
> > cheap Latino labor into this nation decades ago.
Liberal greed continues to promote their entry, register them as voters, and
manipulate them to push their agenda.
> > The progeny of those
> > former immigrants will not continue in the fields and kitchens. Ergo,
> > more newer waves of immigrants have come about. Hence the need for
> > bi-lingual skills now
Bi-lingual skills are only useful if you speak English proficiently.
However, ESL programs do NOT provide adequate mastery of the English
language, which is why many Latino parents joined the majority of voters in
supporting Prop 227.
> > and more and more it is the case that "Spanish
> > only" fits the bill for many new jobs created by a market.
The majority of those positions are low-paid, and you know that.
> > Time for
> > the rest of us to get the new "language and communications skills
> > necessary" to fit the demographic changes.
You come to America, you need to learn English. You want to remain
proficient in your native language, fine, but our legal, commericial, and
political system is built on the English language. If you are not willing to
learn the language, go back to where you came from, and don't impose on us.
> > The "pochos" are getting
> > kicked aside as quickly as the Anglo in this new global economy. The
> > day is almost at hand when *your* "language skills" will have merely a
> > non-lucrative entertainment value in usenet...
More babble from someone who thinks his pidgin Spanish makes him a linguist.
PC 25DR
)
hee hee; stoopod stane; hee heee <:ob
)
Stan de SD
"PC 25DR" <annette...@coolquiz.com> wrote in message
> hee hee; stoopod stane; hee heee <:ob
So, Annette/Roja/HC, are you wowing us with your spelling and punctuation
skills, or is it that difficult to articulate with your head up your ass
that far?
George Kleist
Boy, this is getting better and better. Spammo just insulted the
Tanya Harding of Santa Cruz County. You're best advized to start
wearing knee pads for protection....oh, I forgot, you already wear
them..............time to get padded shag carpeting for your garage
studio. Either that, or start blowing very, very tall basketball
players for your recreational needs. You're so "pre-dick-table."
George Kleist
Further proof there is hope for the hopeless, Stain. Even Bimbo can
see through your translucent hype. :P