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What does "Ron nai" translate to.

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Joby Larsen

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Oct 17, 2001, 8:27:31 AM10/17/01
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When you eat certain fruits and foods, you get "hot" inside, the Thais say.
This is called "ron nai" (ร้อนใน). I used to think it meant "indigestion", but I am assured
that is not correct. I am also assured that there is a specific translation to English for this term.
Can anyone tell me what it is?

Danny Van Zantvoort

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Oct 17, 2001, 8:50:21 AM10/17/01
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According to the Dictionary it does mean to be sick of indigestion and
flatulence
(A new Thai-English Dictonary Library edition)

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Kenny

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Oct 17, 2001, 9:15:17 AM10/17/01
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If you have ulcer in your mouth, you can say that you are
"Ron nai" as well :)


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Vinnie the Rat

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Oct 18, 2001, 4:49:24 AM10/18/01
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You also will hear this in conjuction with eating durian and drinking
alcohol. "It makes you rawn nai - you could die from it!". Some of us were
warned at a tender age about eating cherries and drinking milk. I can tell
you from my experience that it is safe. Durian and alcohol are safe too, I
know 'cause I have to be pretty sloshed to get near the stuff. If you care
to go there, dtahk daa and lao kao is also safe.
Vinnie

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Wisarut

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Oct 18, 2001, 10:29:17 AM10/18/01
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Khun Joby,

Ron Nai is called in English as "Canker" - a white wound with
reddish rim in your mouth. You beter eat a gaud soup (kaeng Juead Fuk)
or a bitter gaud soup (Kaen Juead Mara) along with bitter tea .... and
put a little bit of salt on your canker. This will help you a lot for
your canker, despite of bitter tastes and painful treatement.

Wisarut

Yuri Velasquez

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Oct 19, 2001, 11:23:17 AM10/19/01
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Beans, beans they warm the heart,
The more you eat the more you fart!
Ron nai or Lon nai depending on region.
Velasquez
"Don't like Dali's Moustache!"

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Hsin-Hung Yu

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Oct 19, 2001, 3:04:11 AM10/19/01
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Well, the word 'ron nai' is from Chinese has the following meaning:

"ron" = hot or heat
"nai" = inner or internal

As Chinese believed that every food is characterized with yin (cold) and
yang (hot). So when somebody ate too much of the 'hot' food, then one could
be ron nai. You can said that it is indigestion but that is more.

For example, you will feel sore throat if you eat too much of the fried
food. That is one symptom of ron nai. But would you said that it is
indigestion? Depends, right?

Overall, only concepts could be described; want to know more? Contact a
Chinese herbal doctor.... :) I believe he can tell you more... and
forbidden you to eat this and to eat that...

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Joby Larsen

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Oct 21, 2001, 3:58:31 AM10/21/01
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joby....@notmail.com (Joby Larsen) wrote in
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This is all well and good, but I am looking for an English translation. I am
assured there is one. I know what the condition is, and it's not indigestion
or flatulence. Ulcers in the mouth may also be called "ron nai", but that is
a different condition. And it is most definitely a Thai term. Any similarity
to Chinese is coincidental, and must be restricted to some of the southern
dialects where there is considerable overlap with Thai in some of the more
common words.

Joby Larsen

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Oct 21, 2001, 3:58:44 AM10/21/01
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>When you eat certain fruits and foods, you get "hot" inside, the Thais

This is all well and good, but I am looking for an English translation. I am

kan

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Oct 21, 2001, 8:18:55 AM10/21/01
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Dear Joby

Unfortunately ron-nai is not an exclusively Thai term. The Chinese
apothecaries or "sinseh" has been practising in Thailand for a good number
of years. If you have watched the movie Suriyo-Thai, you will remeber the
scene where there was a chinese apothecary murdered outside the gate of the
palace.

Ron-Nai is what the Chinese call "re-qi" which is roughtly translated as
"heatiness" which is a term widely used by Malaysian and Singaporean
Chinese. This translation is not listed in the Oxford/Cambridge dictionary
and is probably "Manglish" or "singlish" i.e.the version of English spoken
in Malaysia and Singapore.

"Ron-Nai" is caused by an imbalance of yin and yang of food.

Food that is typically known as "heaty" will include fried food, food high
in fat content and certain fruits such as Jack-fruit. Heatiness will cover a
whole spectrum of symptoms from indigestion, mouth ulcers and feelling
febrile.It may also cause halithosis.

The opposite spectrum is "cooling" food which includes fruits such as
water-melon and a variety of herbs to counter heatiness such as Chrysantemum
tea, etc. Too much cooling food may cause cough and abdominal pain.

My grandmother used to give large cups of herbal tea to "cool" me down when
i was diagnosed to have "ron-nai" .

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Joby Larsen

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Oct 23, 2001, 11:23:20 PM10/23/01
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Thank you, Kan.
I was fairly familiar with the condition, having been warned about
"heatiness" many times. I believe that I have never actually suffered from
the condition, though. But, I have a cast-iron stomach, I suppose.
Anyhow, at least now I can state with some confidence that there is no direct
translation into English with some confidence.

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Vinnie the Rat

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Oct 25, 2001, 10:47:21 AM10/25/01
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Very nice explaination. So is the opposite of "re-qi" "leng-qi"?

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_______TVD________

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Oct 26, 2001, 4:46:19 PM10/26/01
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Is that an "i" as in did or "i" as in bike ?

If you bozzos would use my system , you'd have less problems .
It capitalizes consonants / long vowels and uses lower case for short vowels
.

SHaN ToNGKaN KiN KaO ....I want to eat rice .
SHaN PUT THI ( NiT NOE ) I speak Thai ( a little )

A ( say,clay) E ( feet ) I ( bike ) O ( go slow) U ( blue )
a ( father ) e ( get,let) i ( did ) o ( ought ) oo ( book) u ( cut)


Email for tutorial ....

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Vinnie the Rat <> Very nice explaination. So is the opposite of "re-qi"
"leng-qi"?
>

Tom Clasener

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Oct 26, 2001, 5:50:36 PM10/26/01
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:46:19 -0700, "_______TVD________"
<NOSPA...@ultrasw.com.invalid> wrote:

>KC...@hotmail.com
>
>Is that an "i" as in did or "i" as in bike ?
>
>If you bozzos would use my system , you'd have less problems .

Is that an "o" as in boss or an "o" as in low?? The double z in bozo,
as per your usage, changes the stresses on the "o" . You cannot even
get the "Queens English" right, what hope have you of creating a
transcription scheme that is truly universal.

>It capitalizes consonants / long vowels and uses lower case for short vowels
>.

Capitalisation, long used in the English language, follows a fairly
rigid system. Your scheme creates a new use of capitals which flies in
the face of all existing use and creates confusion to those proficient
in the use of grammatically correct written English.


>
>SHaN ToNGKaN KiN KaO ....I want to eat rice .

I'm happy for you!

>SHaN PUT THI ( NiT NOE ) I speak Thai ( a little )

That's my opinion of you also!
We finally agree on something!

TC

<snip>

You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't stop playing the game.

Tim

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Oct 26, 2001, 7:44:24 PM10/26/01
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:50:36 +1000, Tom Clasener
<tomcl...@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Is ____The Venerial Disease______ a woman?

>>
>>SHaN ToNGKaN KiN KaO ....I want to eat rice .
>
> I'm happy for you!
>
>>SHaN PUT THI ( NiT NOE ) I speak Thai ( a little )
>
> That's my opinion of you also!
> We finally agree on something!
>
>TC
>
><snip>
>
>You can't win.
>You can't break even.
>You can't stop playing the game.

Tim


I wish I didn't know now
what I didn't know then.

Dtom

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Oct 27, 2001, 3:46:15 AM10/27/01
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Not sure about the gender but it sure is smoking something way too strong.
Cheers,
Tom.

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Sandy Cruden

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Oct 30, 2001, 10:21:13 PM10/30/01
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"Tom Clasener" <tomcl...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Sandy wrote
Tom have you heard the phrase "Phom phuut Thai dai nguu nguu plaa plaa" ?
It also means I speak Thai a little bit.

Sandy
>
>


_______TVD________

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Oct 31, 2001, 10:56:06 AM10/31/01
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Why uu ? Thats unintuitive !

It's more intuitive to use vowels we allready use in American words like
U . SHaN PUT TI .... a as in father , U as in blue , I as in
bike .
Notice my system simply capitalizes to establish sound .
A ( say,lay) E ( feet) I ( bike) O ( go slow) U ( blue )
a ( father ) e ( get ,let) i ( did ) o ( ought) oo ( book) u ( cut )
æ is ALT 145 ( bat , cat , sat)


And what is the H for in PHOM . Your system is dumb !
When i invented my system , i used rules like :
only one letter to represent a sound if possible .
This nixs the "h" after "ah" , "oh" , etc to mean short vowel
sound.
The exception i made with "oo" is that it's used as-is
in words like BOOK, COOK etc .
I have not found a sound i can't make with my system .
Thais say "ooa" ( oo-as-in-book , a-as-in-father )
when they mean " i hear ya" . This beats the British solution
of using an R ! oo ( my system ) is "or" to the Brits !
Notice i can run my vowels together , no problem .


SHaN KaO SHI . I understand
SaWaTDE KRaP ......

BTW In this context Thias use SHaN not POM .

Thaihelp.zip ( about 3 meg and 10-15-01 date ) is full of errors
and is directed at Brits but i'm gleaning a few things from it .
What i'm getting is word order .
You must think in Thai in order to rea/write/speak .
"man-3-man" in Thai is 3 men !


He spells SaWaTDE in one place SaWaDTE in another .


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UrbanE

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Oct 31, 2001, 10:58:42 AM10/31/01
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:56:06 -0700, "_______TVD________"
<NOSPA...@ultrasw.com.invalid> wrote:

> BTW In this context Thias use SHaN not POM .

Bitch??????

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