Intelligence: Cats vs Dogs
Deimos Anomaly
Dogs can be told *not* to go somewhere. If trained properly, they will
stay out of whatever place. Cats go where they want no matter what you
want them to do.
Dogs are very sensitive to traffic dangers. Many, many dogs in urban
areas learn "road sense" in that they'l check both ways before crossing
a road, in an almost human manner. (I've personally seen many dogs doing
this.) If a car is coming, it will wait until it passes. Cats on the
other hand tend to simply walk out in front of things. Then if you stamp
on the brakes and screech to a halt the damn thing looks at you like
"what the fuck do you think you're doing being here?".
Dogs are loyal. Cats blow with the wind.
Try getting a cat to sit/beg.
I think there's conclusive proof here that dogs are more intelligent
than cats.
Chuck
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deflector.
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kill again." --the plot of 'The Wizard of Oz'
Deimos Anomaly
> Maybe, but it's incidental since a dog can't get past a cat's navigational
> deflector.
Groan.
Oh give over.
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
dogs a re social animals that follow a family structure. cats are generally
solitary animals. Only a few csts, such as lions, go around in packs or
herds. Tigers, leopards, panthers etc dont.
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Transcend
<snip>
>
> I think there's conclusive proof here that dogs are more intelligent
> than cats.
No, it proves cats are too intelligent to be bossed around by stupid
people. The reason dogs are more obedient is that they are inherently pack
animals, and they see their master as head of that pack. It's simple,
infact the reason dogs like to obey orders and be so loyal is that they
don't *like* to think. They like *others* to think and make decisions for
them.
Cats are different however, a cat may see you as "boss cat" but because of
their social structuring they will occasionally test your ability to be the
boss. Among cats themselves this sometimes leads to short, non-deadly
combat to determine such things. Cats are almost feudal in nature, creating
complex relationships and territorial rules. These are always under
revision however and may be changed at will by the boss cat, who may be
challenged for status however. In short, cats have a complex society which
is hard to fit humans into, sometimes we get put into a "boss cat" status,
while others we may be considered equals or even be classed as owned
objects. Dispite common belief, once cats have figured out the structure of
their relationship, they can be quite friendly, even loving to equals,
superiors, and beings of lesser status.
Cats have a more complex social structure then dogs, which suggests high
intelligence. Cats furthermore are *far* more curious about the world then
dogs, and curiosity is a strong indicator of intelligence.
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selection. We will civilize and alter ourselves to suit our ideas of what
we can be. Within one more human lifespan, we will have changed ourselves
unrecognizably. -- Greg Bear
Transcend
> ur an idiot.
>
> dogs a re social animals that follow a family structure. cats are
> generally solitary animals. Only a few csts, such as lions, go around in
> packs or herds. Tigers, leopards, panthers etc dont.
You are wrong Weyoun. Right now, outside this very house I am sitting in is
a complex society made up of your common domestic housecat (somewhere
around 15 or so). Usually considered solitary they actually can and will
form complex tribal structures with feudatory leadership and territorial
structures. The way it is here, for most matters "Big Momma" (the matriarch
of the local cats) is in charge, however her son (named Saddam because of
his badass attitude, and his always cocked ear that almost looks like a
beret) is in charge of territorial matters and is generally "lord of the
manor" (so to speak, similar structure anyway). "Momma" settles minor
disputes, mostly among her kids (letting them handle their own children)
while "Saddam" kicks ass when wild males get out of line. These are hardly
solitary creatures. Even inside there are 6 cats, most of whom get along
and will often sleep cuddled up together.
Chuck
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> Weyoun the Dancing Borg wrote:
>
> > ur an idiot.
> >
> > dogs a re social animals that follow a family structure. cats are
> > generally solitary animals. Only a few csts, such as lions, go around in
> > packs or herds. Tigers, leopards, panthers etc dont.
>
> You are wrong Weyoun. Right now, outside this very house I am sitting in
is
> a complex society made up of your common domestic housecat (somewhere
> around 15 or so). Usually considered solitary they actually can and will
> form complex tribal structures with feudatory leadership and territorial
> structures. The way it is here, for most matters "Big Momma" (the
matriarch
> of the local cats) is in charge, however her son (named Saddam because of
> his badass attitude, and his always cocked ear that almost looks like a
> beret) is in charge of territorial matters and is generally "lord of the
> manor" (so to speak, similar structure anyway). "Momma" settles minor
> disputes, mostly among her kids (letting them handle their own children)
> while "Saddam" kicks ass when wild males get out of line. These are hardly
> solitary creatures. Even inside there are 6 cats, most of whom get along
> and will often sleep cuddled up together.
>
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MKSheppard
>No, it proves cats are too intelligent to be bossed around by stupid
>people. The reason dogs are more obedient is that they are inherently pack
>animals, and they see their master as head of that pack. It's simple,
>infact the reason dogs like to obey orders and be so loyal is that they
>don't *like* to think. They like *others* to think and make decisions for
>them.
Cats are useless.
*Sheppard barges into Trannie's house with his German Shepherd Fritz*
With a hard kick, he sent the first cat flying into a wall, breaking it's back,
and paralyzing it for the rest of it's life, it's horrid screams attracting
Trannie.
"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING SHEPPARD?"
Trannie screamed.
"Get 'im, Fritz!"
With a low growl, Fritz leapt onto Trannie, and began the biting,
snarling, tearing, and the whole gnashing of teeth thingy.
MORAL: A shitload of cats will do you no good when the shit
goes down, but a properly trained dog is a deadly weapon :D
=-------------------------------------------------------
Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
a Weatherby at 300 yards.
Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
mauling.
Cats are really a luxury item.
Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
millenia ago...
Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes.
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no I'm not wrong Transcend. As normal, your distored view of reality seems
to make you think you are right.
I am not on about your house pets.
I will tell you now, apart from lions (and possibly mere cats, if they *ARE*
cats at all) most cats are solitary animals that live alone or in veyr very
small units (normally families).
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Transcend
> #*yawn*
>
> no I'm not wrong Transcend. As normal, your distored view of reality seems
> to make you think you are right.
>
> I am not on about your house pets.
>
> I will tell you now, apart from lions (and possibly mere cats, if they
> *ARE* cats at all) most cats are solitary animals that live alone or in
> veyr very small units (normally families).
Not the (supposedly) "domesticated" species. I can tell you right now, I
know because they are living right outside here. I see them and interact
with them every day. And many species of wild cats are similar too, while
many are or can be solitary, many can also form social groupings. Now it's
true that a few species don't form such groupings at *all* most *can.*
Transcend
> On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:42:48 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> wrote:
>
> >No, it proves cats are too intelligent to be bossed around by stupid
> >people. The reason dogs are more obedient is that they are inherently
> >pack animals, and they see their master as head of that pack. It's
> >simple, infact the reason dogs like to obey orders and be so loyal is
> >that they don't *like* to think. They like *others* to think and make
> >decisions for them.
>
> Cats are useless.
Hardly, without them human food supply would be alot lower, due to rodent
infestation. There would be alot more famine in the world if not for cats.
Which is why the Egyptians worshipped cats as gifts from the gods, and
could care less about stupid dogs.
>
> *Sheppard barges into Trannie's house with his German Shepherd Fritz*
And quickly gets his head blown off, after spending hours trying to find
the place tracking through thick brush and ending up totally confused due
to the house's odd layout.
>
> With a hard kick, he sent the first cat flying into a wall, breaking it's
> back, and paralyzing it for the rest of it's life, it's horrid screams
> attracting Trannie.
>
He'd rip you a new asshole dude.
> "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING SHEPPARD?"
> Trannie screamed.
>
> "Get 'im, Fritz!"
>
> With a low growl, Fritz leapt onto Trannie, and began the biting,
> snarling, tearing, and the whole gnashing of teeth thingy.
Which I kill, with the sword I bought a couple weeks ago...or a gun I
grabbed as you were breaking in....
>
> MORAL: A shitload of cats will do you no good when the shit
> goes down, but a properly trained dog is a deadly weapon :D
Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
>
> =-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
> a Weatherby at 300 yards.
Lone males aren't usually the ones out hunting. Since we are talking about
*equilivant* situations then try the same situation with the whole pride's
female hunters. You might take one, but you'd miss the 3 or 4 sneaking up
behind you.
>
> Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
> even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
> mauling.
See above, also dogs have no sense of tactics, unlike cats when they hunt
together.
>
> Cats are really a luxury item.
>
> Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
> of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
> a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
> millenia ago...
So cats haven't been selectively breed to be slaves, and certainly not for
as long as dogs, so what. That's all dogs usually are, simple slaves for
humans.
>
> Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes.
Personally I think they carry some genetic memory of being worshipped like
gods in Egypt. However I have never heard of *dogs* comming out of nowhere
to save a civilization.
Matthew Hyde
problem-solving skills encoded into this compact and handsome carrying
case, the unwanted bastard halfling son of male circus midgets who
turned hermaphoditic after centuries of drug use and running from the
Mafia, not only am I a psychic but my cat eats trained sentry dogs too!
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Raven Ford
> Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
German Shepard?
Matthew Hyde
Maybe he has a bobcat
Transcend
Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he *loves*
me.....
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
I said "not your house pets"
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Graeme Dice
>
> Raven Ford wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> >
> > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > German Shepard?
>
> Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he *loves*
> me.....
You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
Graeme Dice
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Raven Ford
> > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> >
> > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > German Shepard?
>
> Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
*loves*
> me.....
20 pounds of "pure muscle" versus a 65 pound or higher dog. The dog has no
qualms about biting or throwing the cat up against the wall while you would.
Thus, the dog would win.
MKSheppard
>No, it proves cats are too intelligent to be bossed around by stupid
>people. The reason dogs are more obedient is that they are inherently pack
>animals, and they see their master as head of that pack. It's simple,
>infact the reason dogs like to obey orders and be so loyal is that they
>don't *like* to think. They like *others* to think and make decisions for
>them.
Cats are useless.
*Sheppard barges into Trannie's house with his German Shepherd Fritz*
With a hard kick, he sent the first cat flying into a wall, breaking it's back,
and paralyzing it for the rest of it's life, it's horrid screams attracting
Trannie.
"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING SHEPPARD?"
Trannie screamed.
"Get 'im, Fritz!"
With a low growl, Fritz leapt onto Trannie, and began the biting,
snarling, tearing, and the whole gnashing of teeth thingy.
MORAL: A shitload of cats will do you no good when the shit
goes down, but a properly trained dog is a deadly weapon :D
=-------------------------------------------------------
Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
a Weatherby at 300 yards.
Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
mauling.
Cats are really a luxury item.
Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
millenia ago...
Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes.
---------------------------------------
MKSheppard
>Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
>wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he *loves*
>me.....
Awww....so what?
There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly as
to be hospitalized".
Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
(which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
Raven Ford
> > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> >
> > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > German Shepard?
>
> Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
*loves*
> me.....
I've been bitten by cats and dogs. I've only got one scar from a cat bite
and that's because Beauty bit my nose.
Now on my rear I have several scars from my sister Chow biting me while I
was fighting with Phoenix. On my thighs I have scars from getting caught
between two fighting dogs. I've also had a dog bite my hand (no scars) and
my arm (Not noticeable.). My sister's damn dog did all of those except for
when they were fighting.
Plus several *love* nips from my wonderful but deceased dog on my legs. She
used to bite my legs when she though I was doing something bad (Generally I
was, too) and when she'd sleep with me, she would nip me when I'd take up
too much space or she'd nip me to wake me up when I started thrashing. God,
she was a great dog, part Chow, Akita, and what the vet thought was wolf,
but I think her dad was pure Akita. *realizes she's rambling and quickly
stuffs the pictures of Tammie away*
Dogs can do much more damage than a cat can.
Raven Ford
> *Sheppard walks into Trannies house, and tries to obedience train Tranny's
> cats. He finally ends up sighing in frustration, and shoots them all in
the
> head.*
>
> [In an Alternate Universe in which Trannie has dogs]
>
> Sheppard smiled. It had been so easy. None of this bullshit feudal society
> crap. He'd simply figgered out which dog had been the alpha male and
> beat the shit out of him. After seeing their leader maimed by Sheppard's
> savage beating, the other dogs sat in front of Sheppard, their tongues
> lolling out as they panted.
>
> Sheppard was their Alpha Male now.
I'd like to see you do that. In my experience, when an intruder comes in,
even if the alpha male or female was killed they would still see you as
threat.
MKSheppard
>Cats have a more complex social structure then dogs, which suggests high
>intelligence. Cats furthermore are *far* more curious about the world then
>dogs, and curiosity is a strong indicator of intelligence.
*Sheppard walks into Trannies house, and tries to obedience train Tranny's
cats. He finally ends up sighing in frustration, and shoots them all in the
head.*
[In an Alternate Universe in which Trannie has dogs]
Sheppard smiled. It had been so easy. None of this bullshit feudal society
crap. He'd simply figgered out which dog had been the alpha male and
beat the shit out of him. After seeing their leader maimed by Sheppard's
savage beating, the other dogs sat in front of Sheppard, their tongues
lolling out as they panted.
Sheppard was their Alpha Male now.
:D
Colin Brian Witz
German Shepards, and she was a tiny little thing. (Siamese: Life Support
for an Ego, so large and malevelent that Demons are afraid of them)
Dalton
My cousin has four cats. They are all assholes.
Alrighty, off I go here now...
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Colin Brian Witz
Unfortunaltly I used to own one that could take down an attack dog. Oh
yeah, the way to break an attack dog is to wrap somepadding around an arm,
bloody their nose and if that fails, you will be forced to apply choke
pressure. <Government work in South L.A. had to take a class on Self
Defense against Dogs, due to the number of Gang members who like to use
their pets to threaten people.>
Colin Brian Witz
Reason is I know a number of Cats that can tear apart attack dogs. It's the
speed factor that gives them a fighting chance.
Dalton
Hey, that's pretty cool. I never knew that.
Raven Ford
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But can they kill them?
Raven Ford
> My late Siamese used to tear the living shit out of Both Pit Bulls, and
> German Shepards, and she was a tiny little thing. (Siamese: Life Support
> for an Ego, so large and malevelent that Demons are afraid of them)
Siamese can be vicious when they want to be. *rubs scar on nose*
The Insidious Spyda
>
> Raven Ford wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> >
> > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > German Shepard?
>
> Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he *loves*
> me.....
From the way you sound in your posts, I wouldn't say that you where a hell of
a lot bigger.
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The Insidious Spyda
A pack of wild dogs can easily take down... no, I'm not getting involved in
this...
The Insidious Spyda
> > Weyoun the Dancing Borg wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > dogs a re social animals that follow a family structure. cats are
> > > generally solitary animals. Only a few csts, such as lions, go around in
> > > packs or herds. Tigers, leopards, panthers etc dont.
> >
> > You are wrong Weyoun. Right now, outside this very house I am sitting in
> is
> > a complex society made up of your common domestic housecat (somewhere
> > around 15 or so). Usually considered solitary they actually can and will
> > form complex tribal structures with feudatory leadership and territorial
> > structures. The way it is here, for most matters "Big Momma" (the
> matriarch
> > of the local cats) is in charge, however her son (named Saddam because of
> > his badass attitude, and his always cocked ear that almost looks like a
> > beret) is in charge of territorial matters and is generally "lord of the
> > manor" (so to speak, similar structure anyway). "Momma" settles minor
> > disputes, mostly among her kids (letting them handle their own children)
> > while "Saddam" kicks ass when wild males get out of line. These are hardly
> > solitary creatures. Even inside there are 6 cats, most of whom get along
> > and will often sleep cuddled up together.
> >
> From Transcend's new book: "Everything I Need To Know I Learned From
> Watching Heathcliffe." :-)
ROTFLMAO!
The Insidious Spyda
>
> [In an Alternate Universe in which Trannie has dogs]
>
> Sheppard smiled. It had been so easy. None of this bullshit feudal society
> crap. He'd simply figgered out which dog had been the alpha male and
> beat the shit out of him. After seeing their leader maimed by Sheppard's
> savage beating, the other dogs sat in front of Sheppard, their tongues
> lolling out as they panted.
>
> Sheppard was their Alpha Male now.
>
> :D
And you get first mating rights ;-D
The Insidious Spyda
>
> Transcend wrote:
> >
> > Raven Ford wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> > >
> > > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > > German Shepard?
> >
> > Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he *loves*
> > me.....
>
> You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
>
> Graeme Dice
I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
Graeme Dice
>
> Graeme Dice wrote:
> >
> > Transcend wrote:
> > >
<snip>
> > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> >
> > Graeme Dice
>
> I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
Of course, but since Transcend has troubles keeping his cats from doing
the same, that's what I would recommended.
It's also recommended for nearly widl farm cats that don't like people.
Graeme Dice
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Raven Ford
> > > >
> > > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your
dog.
> > > >
> > > > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully
grown
> > > > German Shepard?
> > >
> > > Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's
the
> > > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
*loves*
> > > me.....
> >
> > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> >
> > Graeme Dice
>
> I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
Cats need to be declawed if they are in a household. And properly trained.
The Insidious Spyda
>
> but wait, there's more! I am not just a total package, infinite
> problem-solving skills encoded into this compact and handsome carrying
> case, the unwanted bastard halfling son of male circus midgets who
> turned hermaphoditic after centuries of drug use and running from the
> Mafia, not only am I a psychic but my cat eats trained sentry dogs too!
LOL!!
Raven Ford
> > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > >
> > > Graeme Dice
> >
> > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
>
> Of course, but since Transcend has troubles keeping his cats from doing
> the same, that's what I would recommended.
>
> It's also recommended for nearly widl farm cats that don't like people.
When I have to give Bonnie and Steven a bath, I put on a flannel
long-sleeved shirt and put this old thick terry cloth robe on. They can't
even reach my skin through all the layers. They aren't wild but hate baths
and will dig their claws in and then pull out.
Raven Ford
> > > Reason is I know a number of Cats that can tear apart attack dogs.
It's
> > the
> > > speed factor that gives them a fighting chance.
> >
> > But can they kill them?
>
> A pack of wild dogs can easily take down... no, I'm not getting involved
in
> this...
Smart person, just slap yourself whenever you feel an urge to post to these
ridicules topics. I wish that worked for me...
Colin Brian Witz
He used to kill foxes, and small dogs and eat them, nearly killed a Coyote
once, survived loosing a leg to a cow, died of Old age 16years.
Paradox
"Colin Brian Witz" <yb...@inreach.com> wrote in message
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The Insidious Spyda
>
> The Insidious Spyda wrote:
> >
> > Graeme Dice wrote:
> > >
> > > Transcend wrote:
> > > >
>
> <snip>
>
> > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > >
> > > Graeme Dice
> >
> > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
>
> Of course, but since Transcend has troubles keeping his cats from doing
> the same, that's what I would recommended.
>
> It's also recommended for nearly widl farm cats that don't like people.
Well I know it's getting a little obvious, but I must point out that
Transcend is an idiot.
Mark Walton
reasons.
"Deimos Anomaly" <samuelj...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3AF80CC6...@aol.com...
> Dogs can be trained to obey you, mostly. Cats don't seem to get it.
>
> Dogs can be told *not* to go somewhere. If trained properly, they will
> stay out of whatever place. Cats go where they want no matter what you
> want them to do.
>
> Dogs are very sensitive to traffic dangers. Many, many dogs in urban
> areas learn "road sense" in that they'l check both ways before crossing
> a road, in an almost human manner. (I've personally seen many dogs doing
> this.) If a car is coming, it will wait until it passes. Cats on the
> other hand tend to simply walk out in front of things. Then if you stamp
> on the brakes and screech to a halt the damn thing looks at you like
> "what the fuck do you think you're doing being here?".
>
> Dogs are loyal. Cats blow with the wind.
>
> Try getting a cat to sit/beg.
>
> I think there's conclusive proof here that dogs are more intelligent
> than cats.
Robert Williams
>
>I will tell you now, apart from lions (and possibly mere cats, if they *ARE*
>cats at all) most cats are solitary animals that live alone or in veyr very
>small units (normally families).
This may be the case, but cats do live harmoneously in large groups when put
into them, and they do interact with other cats, in a territorial context.
Rob
Transcend
> Graeme Dice wrote:
> >
> > The Insidious Spyda wrote:
> > >
> > > Graeme Dice wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Transcend wrote:
> > > > >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > > >
> > > > Graeme Dice
> > >
> > > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
> >
> > Of course, but since Transcend has troubles keeping his cats from doing
> > the same, that's what I would recommended.
> >
> > It's also recommended for nearly widl farm cats that don't like people.
>
> Well I know it's getting a little obvious, but I must point out that
> Transcend is an idiot.
And I know that this is getting a little obvious as well, but I must point
out that Spyda is a flaming asshole and also a historically confirmed troll.
--
Natural selection won't matter soon, not anywhere as much as concious
selection. We will civilize and alter ourselves to suit our ideas of what
we can be. Within one more human lifespan, we will have changed ourselves
unrecognizably. -- Greg Bear
Transcend
> do you read what I type?
>
> I said "not your house pets"
Did you read what I typed? If not then you didn't understand that I was
including *other* species of cat!
Transcend
Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of someone
cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking painful.
Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life, that's a
*very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a vitally
important part of their psychology and to have them removed is mentally
scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
Transcend
> On Tue, 8 May 2001 20:19:44 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> >wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> >*loves* me.....
>
> Awww....so what?
>
> There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly as
> to be hospitalized".
>
> Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
>
> If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
No, against me the dog would be dead.
Transcend
>
>
> > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your
> > > > dog.
> > >
> > > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully grown
> > > German Shepard?
> >
> > Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> *loves*
> > me.....
>
> I've been bitten by cats and dogs. I've only got one scar from a cat bite
> and that's because Beauty bit my nose.
>
> Now on my rear I have several scars from my sister Chow biting me while I
> was fighting with Phoenix. On my thighs I have scars from getting caught
> between two fighting dogs. I've also had a dog bite my hand (no scars) and
> my arm (Not noticeable.). My sister's damn dog did all of those except for
> when they were fighting.
>
> Plus several *love* nips from my wonderful but deceased dog on my legs.
> She
> used to bite my legs when she though I was doing something bad (Generally
> I was, too) and when she'd sleep with me, she would nip me when I'd take
> up too much space or she'd nip me to wake me up when I started thrashing.
> God, she was a great dog, part Chow, Akita, and what the vet thought was
> wolf, but I think her dad was pure Akita. *realizes she's rambling and
> quickly stuffs the pictures of Tammie away*
>
> Dogs can do much more damage than a cat can.
Depends on the dog, and depends on the cat. Every one of my cats I have
*ever* had was born in the wild, and certainly show the traits of it. They
have all been extremely wild, and dangerous to handle if you don't know
what you are doing (sometimes even if you do). I am not talking about fat,
lazy housecats here. One of my previous cats (who died very suddenly at a
young age, sad really) probably had alittle bobcat in him, meanest SOB
you'd ever know...'cept to me. Damn did he know how to fight...
Transcend
> My late Siamese used to tear the living shit out of Both Pit Bulls, and
> German Shepards, and she was a tiny little thing. (Siamese: Life Support
> for an Ego, so large and malevelent that Demons are afraid of them)
Only breed of cat that can't stand me....
Transcend
> whereas cats think they are more intelligent, for precisely the same
> reasons.
>
Bingo!
Colin Brian Witz
been rated as trolls and idiots by more people then Spyda and Pread put
together.\
Colin Brian Witz
treated as ones, and know that their ancestors were bred to kill humans.
(Wonderful thought cats bred to torture and kill prisonors by the Indians
and Chinese.
Transcend
I have not been rated a troll by many. Alot have (for no good reason)
called me stupid, but very few (mostly people like Chris O'Farrell) have
called me troll.
Raven Ford
> > > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > > >
> > > > Graeme Dice
> > >
> > > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
> >
> > Cats need to be declawed if they are in a household. And properly
trained.
>
> Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of someone
> cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking painful.
> Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life, that's
a
> *very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a vitally
> important part of their psychology and to have them removed is mentally
> scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
They sedate the cats while the operation and their paws are sensitive for a
while, but after a week or so they don't feel anything.
As for mentally scarring, all the cats I know just go about with life as
though they were still there.
It won't be very humane when if I have to get rid of the damn cat for
scratching up everything in site, either.
Raven Ford
> > Dogs can do much more damage than a cat can.
>
> Depends on the dog, and depends on the cat. Every one of my cats I have
> *ever* had was born in the wild, and certainly show the traits of it. They
> have all been extremely wild, and dangerous to handle if you don't know
> what you are doing (sometimes even if you do).
Any animal is dangerous to hold if you don't know what you're doing. Tamed
or otherwise.
> I am not talking about fat,
> lazy housecats here. One of my previous cats (who died very suddenly at a
> young age, sad really) probably had alittle bobcat in him, meanest SOB
> you'd ever know...'cept to me. Damn did he know how to fight...
I'm not talking about housecats either. Only Beauty was a housecat (Born in
the house and raised there.), but all of our cats were strays we picked up
from the street, took to the vet, and tamed. Most of the time, we don't even
get them before they were six months old.
The Insidious Spyda
>
> Colin Brian Witz wrote:
>
> > No he appologised for summoning those people. Two, you and Diemios have
> > been rated as trolls and idiots by more people then Spyda and Pread put
> > together.\
>
> I have not been rated a troll by many. Alot have (for no good reason)
> called me stupid, but very few (mostly people like Chris O'Farrell) have
> called me troll.
"Lot's of people have called me stupid, but they're all wrong. I'm smart damn
it!"
--
"ASVS aims to promote co-operation between all bodies involved in the sheep
industry."
The Insidious Spyda
>
> The Insidious Spyda wrote:
>
> > Graeme Dice wrote:
> > >
> > > The Insidious Spyda wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Graeme Dice wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Transcend wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Graeme Dice
> > > >
> > > > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
> > >
> > > Of course, but since Transcend has troubles keeping his cats from doing
> > > the same, that's what I would recommended.
> > >
> > > It's also recommended for nearly widl farm cats that don't like people.
> >
> > Well I know it's getting a little obvious, but I must point out that
> > Transcend is an idiot.
>
> And I know that this is getting a little obvious as well, but I must point
> out that Spyda is a flaming asshole and also a historically confirmed troll.
You take that back! I'm not "flaming", I've never been set on fire in my
life, well there was that one time...
--
"ASVS aims to promote co-operation between all bodies involved in the sheep
industry."
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/spyda
The Insidious Spyda
>
> MKSheppard wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001 20:19:44 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> > >wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> > >*loves* me.....
> >
> > Awww....so what?
> >
> > There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly as
> > to be hospitalized".
> >
> > Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
> >
> > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
>
> No, against me the dog would be dead.
I don't think there are any perl routines that cover having your throat
ripped out.
rob.wn5
"Transcend" <tran...@cybertown.com> wrote in message
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> MKSheppard wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:42:48 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> > wrote:
> >
Snip
> Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
>
Get a grip Transcend. Your cats dead against a Human let alone one with a
dog.
> >
> > =-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
> > a Weatherby at 300 yards.
>
> Lone males aren't usually the ones out hunting. Since we are talking
about
> *equilivant* situations then try the same situation with the whole
pride's
> female hunters. You might take one, but you'd miss the 3 or 4 sneaking up
> behind you.
They tend to charge threats to the pride, not sneak around. You are
confusing hunting techniques with threat behavior.
>
> >
> > Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
> > even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
> > mauling.
>
> See above, also dogs have no sense of tactics, unlike cats when they hunt
> together.
African Hunting Dog, Hyena's, Wolves, Bearhounds all employ hunting tactics
involving Herding and ambushes. They will then employ hit and fade against
thjreats in a constant round robin designed to wear an intruder/threat down
without tiring themselves out.
>
> >
> > Cats are really a luxury item.
> >
> > Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
> > of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
> > a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
> > millenia ago...
>
> So cats haven't been selectively breed to be slaves, and certainly not
for
> as long as dogs, so what. That's all dogs usually are, simple slaves for
> humans.
Yes I often got my dogs to pour me drinks, run me baths and do the
housework. Idiot! They are there as companions and to act as combination
guards/hunters if necessary. Cats however are there to do whatever they
want. Only weak-willed morons would tolerate a cat as their only pet,
because they don't mind being domineered by an animal.
> >
> > Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes.
>
> Personally I think they carry some genetic memory of being worshipped
like
> gods in Egypt. However I have never heard of *dogs* comming out of
nowhere
> to save a civilization.
1. Egyptians revered both dogs and cats.
2. The cats were cuaght and reared to deal with the rodent infestations,
they did not decide to aid humanity they were bred to do the job.
3. You obviously don't know your history, when man domesticated a creature
to aid in his hunts in prehistory he chose the dog. So to achieve the move
to civilisation in the first place man used the dog not the cat.
4. The date of this famine you keep refering to please.
Rob Wilson
rob.wn5
> err, do you think Mike Tyson could beat Bruce Lee too?
>
>
> Reason is I know a number of Cats that can tear apart attack dogs. It's
the
> speed factor that gives them a fighting chance.
Cat vs Dobermann Pincher anyone?
:-)
Rob Wilson
>
>
rob.wn5
"Raven Ford" <rav...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Were you wanting one of us to slap you?
:-)
Rob Wilson
>
>
rob.wn5
"Graeme Dice" <grd...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Transcend wrote:
> >
> > Raven Ford wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your
dog.
> > >
grown
> > > German Shepard?
> >
> > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
*loves*
> > me.....
>
> long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
>
Your forgetting that he is Jane Queen of the cats, wise in their ways. You
can teach Jane nothing about cats, instead Jane will teach you all.
:-)
Rob Wilson
> Graeme Dice
> --
> "Classical physics has been superseded by quantum theory: quantum
> theory is verified by experiments. Experiments must be described
> in terms of classical physics."
> - C. F. von Weizsäcker (1912-?), German physicist and philosopher.
rob.wn5
>
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and*
your
> dog.
> > > > >
> > > > > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully
> grown
> > > > > German Shepard?
> > > >
> > > > Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's
> the
> > > > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> *loves*
> > > > me.....
> > >
> > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > >
> >
> > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
>
trained.
Did someone mention Declawing cats?
<reaches for pliers>
:-)
Rob Wilson
>
>
rob.wn5
"MKSheppard" <ryan...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> >wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
*loves*
> >me.....
>
>
> There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly
as
> to be hospitalized".
>
> Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
>
> If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
Real attack dogs are trained to go for the Legs (the top of the back of the
thigh) and bite into the Femoral artery.
Rob Wilson
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Down with all gun control edicts.
> Down with the National Firearms Act!
> Down with the Gun Control Act of 1968!
> Down with the Brady Bill!
> Down with the BATF!
> Down with them all!
rob.wn5
> The Siamese is bred to go for the Eyes, nose, genatials and neck.
> Unfortunaltly I used to own one that could take down an attack dog. Oh
> yeah, the way to break an attack dog is to wrap somepadding around an
arm,
> bloody their nose and if that fails, you will be forced to apply choke
> pressure. <Government work in South L.A. had to take a class on Self
> Defense against Dogs, due to the number of Gang members who like to use
> their pets to threaten people.>
If it were a real attack dog (properly trained) it would ignore your arm
and go for the top of the leg and the Femoral artery. If you are attacked,
turn side on. It will still bite your leg but it will only get the Quads
and Tri's. It will lock on (this will be painful but it will totally ignore
your arms anyway). Grasp it's windpipe firmly and twist. Keep twisting
until the animal is unconscious or dead. If you have a firearm use that
before being bitten. NEVER punch an attack dog (trained) on the nose. It
will only make it more viscious. Use pepper spray if you have it.
If they are a normal dog take off your jacket, twist it quickly and then
flap that around near the dog. It will grab this and start biting it (much
better than your arm - padding or not). The next bit is complicated to
write down but easy to demonstrate. With your twisted up jacket in it's
mouth, you move towards the animal pushing forwards with the coat. Drawing
next to the dog, you pull the coat so that the dogs head is held back by
the coat against it's upper jaw. Swap hands (if you are on the rightside of
the dog you should have started with the coat in your right hand) and use
that hand to push the dog down whilst resting your knees on it's upper body
to hold it in place. Use your free hand to grasp the exposed windpipe,
render the dog unconscious and then secure it's muzzle and legs with your
coat. Now get the owner and beat him to death.
NOTE : Don't just read this and think you can do it. You need to have it
demonstrated to fully understand it and the speed required to make it work
properly. If practiced this will work against any dog (except those trained
to go for the legs) and is safer to the person and the animal than other
techniques.
Compare that with how to deal with a cat if it attacks you. Kick it until
it gives up or stops moving.
:-)
Rob Wilson
>
>
rob.wn5
> MKSheppard wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001 20:19:44 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's
the
> > >wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> > >*loves* me.....
> >
> > Awww....so what?
> >
> > There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly
as
> > to be hospitalized".
> >
> > Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
> >
> > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
>
> No, against me the dog would be dead.
Yes, Of course it would. I mean your detailing of why that would be so is
just too convincing for us to refute ........ Oh wait you gave none, just
your assertion that Transcend is invincible when faced with Attack dogs or
even an ordinary dog which decides to bite him. Ever faced an animal that
wanted to kill you Transcend (and no I don't mean your cats when they have
a hissing fit)? It can make you very, very unsure of yourself, having some
form of training helps, but not as much as you think. You can just try to
come out alive and hope that you never get attacked again.
Rob Wilson
Matthew Hyde
What's black and tan and looks good on Transcend? A Doberman Pinscher!
--
Matt Hyde
906-487-3406
mdo...@mtu.edu
Matthew Hyde
>
> MKSheppard wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001 20:19:44 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> > >wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> > >*loves* me.....
> >
> > Awww....so what?
> >
> > There's a diff between "scratched the hell out of" and "mauled so badly as
> > to be hospitalized".
> >
> > Police dogs are trained to BITE HARD and NOT TO LET GO!
> >
> > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
>
> No, against me the dog would be dead.
>
Matthew Hyde
>
> "Graeme Dice" <grd...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3AF89CD9...@sk.sympatico.ca...
> > Transcend wrote:
> > >
> > > Raven Ford wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your
> dog.
> > > >
> > > > How much does your cat weigh? Does it even come close to a fully
> grown
> > > > German Shepard?
> > >
> > > Somewhere close to 20 pounds of pure muscle, get him upset and he's the
> > > wildest ball of fur you'll ever see. He's ripped *me* up bad and he
> *loves*
> > > me.....
> >
> > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> >
>
> Your forgetting that he is Jane Queen of the cats, wise in their ways. You
> can teach Jane nothing about cats, instead Jane will teach you all.
> :-)
>
rob.wn5
"Matthew Hyde" <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
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LMAO
Evil but very funny.
:-)
Rob Wilson
rob.wn5
> but wait, there's more! I am not just a total package, infinite
> problem-solving skills encoded into this compact and handsome carrying
> case, the unwanted bastard halfling son of male circus midgets who
> turned hermaphoditic after centuries of drug use and running from the
> Mafia, not only am I a psychic but my cat eats trained sentry dogs too!
LMAO
Dalton, Please tell me this is going in the FUQ.
rob.wn5
> Colin Brian Witz wrote:
>
> > My late Siamese used to tear the living shit out of Both Pit Bulls, and
> > German Shepards, and she was a tiny little thing. (Siamese: Life
Support
> > for an Ego, so large and malevelent that Demons are afraid of them)
>
> Only breed of cat that can't stand me....
Hehehehe, Maybe cats are intelligent after all.
:-)
Rob Wilson
knows that was too easy but come on, he was begging for it with that remark
:-)
Dalton
>
> "Matthew Hyde" <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
> news:3AF8926C...@mtu.edu...
> > but wait, there's more! I am not just a total package, infinite
> > problem-solving skills encoded into this compact and handsome carrying
> > case, the unwanted bastard halfling son of male circus midgets who
> > turned hermaphoditic after centuries of drug use and running from the
> > Mafia, not only am I a psychic but my cat eats trained sentry dogs too!
>
> LMAO
>
> Dalton, Please tell me this is going in the FUQ.
I didn't see it, thanks for alerting me :)
--
Rob Dalton | http://daltonator.net
"Not 'Thou Shalt Not.' Say 'I Will Not.'" ---Terry Pratchett
rob.wn5
> >intelligence. Cats furthermore are *far* more curious about the world
then
> >dogs, and curiosity is a strong indicator of intelligence.
>
> *Sheppard walks into Trannies house, and tries to obedience train
Tranny's
> cats. He finally ends up sighing in frustration, and shoots them all in
the
> head.*
>
> [In an Alternate Universe in which Trannie has dogs]
>
> Sheppard smiled. It had been so easy. None of this bullshit feudal
society
> crap. He'd simply figgered out which dog had been the alpha male and
> beat the shit out of him. After seeing their leader maimed by Sheppard's
> savage beating, the other dogs sat in front of Sheppard, their tongues
> lolling out as they panted.
>
> Sheppard was their Alpha Male now.
No need to maim the dog, just make it submit. Of course while you attack
the Alpha the rest of the pack will descend on you like ... well like
wolves really. :-)
Rob Wilson
>
> :D
Graeme Dice
>
> Transcend wrote:
> >
> > MKSheppard wrote:
<snip>
> > >
> > > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> > > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
> >
> > No, against me the dog would be dead.
> >
> I'm invincible!
You're a looney!
Graeme Dice
--
Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything
that counts can be counted.
-- Albert Einstein
rob.wn5
"Dalton" <r...@daltonator.net> wrote in message
news:3AFA0CE9...@daltonator.net...
> "rob.wn5" wrote:
> >
> > "Matthew Hyde" <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:3AF8926C...@mtu.edu...
> > > but wait, there's more! I am not just a total package, infinite
> > > problem-solving skills encoded into this compact and handsome
carrying
> > > case, the unwanted bastard halfling son of male circus midgets who
> > > turned hermaphoditic after centuries of drug use and running from the
> > > Mafia, not only am I a psychic but my cat eats trained sentry dogs
too!
> >
> > LMAO
> >
> > Dalton, Please tell me this is going in the FUQ.
>
> I didn't see it, thanks for alerting me :)
<tips hat brim>
"just doing my job sir, just doing my job."
<mosey's into the sunset>
Rob Wilson
Dalton
>
> Matthew Hyde wrote:
> >
> > Transcend wrote:
> > >
> > > MKSheppard wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > >
> > > > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle, your arm
> > > > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently maimed.
> > >
> > > No, against me the dog would be dead.
> > >
> > I'm invincible!
>
> You're a looney!
The Black Knight ALWAYS TRIUMPHS!
rob.wn5
> Weyoun the Dancing Borg wrote:
>
> > do you read what I type?
> >
> > I said "not your house pets"
>
> Did you read what I typed? If not then you didn't understand that I was
> including *other* species of cat!
Um, Transcend I don't quite think you have got the use of "Weyoun" sorted
out. As an imaginary character he is used to give you a butt for your
jokes/insults/comments - not so you can be the butt of "his". If your going
to use the imaginary "Weyoun" character at least do it right. For instance
I might realise I have an insult/comment I want to make but no-one has
posted anything I can use so I start my post as :
> Weyoun the Dancing Borg wrote:
[note : I even included the little indent for authenticity, whilst everyone
knows there is no "Weyoun" it helps to get the details right]
[Next I need the stupid statement]
> do you read what I type?
>
> I said "not your house pets"
[then my comment]
Of course no-one reads what you type Fuckwit. If you stopped fisting pigs
whilst eating their shit and breathing in Cannabis smoke by the
bushel-worth for 5 minutes, you'd know everyone wants you to shut the fuck
up and hopefully end your own miserable life and stop taking up precious
air and/or bandwidth. FOAD troll!
See Transcend, that is how you use "Weyoun" properly. Alternatively you
could just not make the comment and post to someone worthwhile. Maybe you
could give them some advice, doesn't have to be specific. How about
"Remember not to feed the Trolls!"
Rob Wilson
rob.wn5
> Graeme Dice wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Hyde wrote:
> > >
> > > Transcend wrote:
> > > >
> > > > MKSheppard wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you continue to struggle against almost 110+ lbs of muscle,
your arm
> > > > > (which is where they're trained to go for), will be permamently
maimed.
> > > >
> > > > No, against me the dog would be dead.
> > > >
> > > I'm invincible!
> >
> > You're a looney!
>
> The Black Knight ALWAYS TRIUMPHS!
Have At you! Come on then!
Rob Wilson
knows we have already missed the well known dialogue :-)
The Insidious Spyda
>
> > > > I'm invincible!
> > >
> > > You're a looney!
> >
> > The Black Knight ALWAYS TRIUMPHS!
>
> Have At you! Come on then!
Do you dare defy Jane Goodall?!!
Transcend
>
>
> > > > > You must not be used to dealing with cats. You need to wear
> > > > > long-sleeved shirts when picking them up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Graeme Dice
> > > >
> > > > I don't, we just train our cats not to do that.
> > >
> > > Cats need to be declawed if they are in a household. And properly
> trained.
> >
> > Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of
> > someone cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking
> > painful.
>
>
>
> > Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life,
> > that's
> a
> > *very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a vitally
> > important part of their psychology and to have them removed is mentally
> > scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
>
> They sedate the cats while the operation and their paws are sensitive for
> a while, but after a week or so they don't feel anything.
They sedate, but there *is* lasting pain.
>
> As for mentally scarring, all the cats I know just go about with life as
> though they were still there.
They try to at any rate....
>
> It won't be very humane when if I have to get rid of the damn cat for
> scratching up everything in site, either.
Which shouldn't even be an option anyway.
--
Natural selection won't matter soon, not anywhere as much as concious
Transcend
>
> "Transcend" <tran...@cybertown.com> wrote in message
> news:9da30a$hh17s$1...@ID-75240.news.dfncis.de...
> > MKSheppard wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:42:48 +0000, Transcend <tran...@cybertown.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
>
> Snip
>
> > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> >
>
> Get a grip Transcend. Your cats dead against a Human let alone one with a
> dog.
Nope.
>
> > >
> > > =-------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
> > > a Weatherby at 300 yards.
> >
> > Lone males aren't usually the ones out hunting. Since we are talking
> about
> > *equilivant* situations then try the same situation with the whole
> pride's
> > female hunters. You might take one, but you'd miss the 3 or 4 sneaking
> > up behind you.
>
> They tend to charge threats to the pride, not sneak around. You are
> confusing hunting techniques with threat behavior.
Ok, then you get the same effect as a pack of wild dogs attacking you.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
> > > even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
> > > mauling.
> >
> > See above, also dogs have no sense of tactics, unlike cats when they
> > hunt together.
>
> African Hunting Dog, Hyena's, Wolves, Bearhounds all employ hunting
> tactics involving Herding and ambushes. They will then employ hit and fade
> against thjreats in a constant round robin designed to wear an
> intruder/threat down without tiring themselves out.
Yes, and can get their asses kicked by lions.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Cats are really a luxury item.
> > >
> > > Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
> > > of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
> > > a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
> > > millenia ago...
> >
> > So cats haven't been selectively breed to be slaves, and certainly not
> for
> > as long as dogs, so what. That's all dogs usually are, simple slaves for
> > humans.
>
> Yes I often got my dogs to pour me drinks, run me baths and do the
> housework. Idiot! They are there as companions and to act as combination
> guards/hunters if necessary. Cats however are there to do whatever they
> want. Only weak-willed morons would tolerate a cat as their only pet,
> because they don't mind being domineered by an animal.
Actually you'll find that many very intelligent, and strong minded,
individuals own and love cats.
>
> > >
> > > Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes.
> >
> > Personally I think they carry some genetic memory of being worshipped
> like
> > gods in Egypt. However I have never heard of *dogs* comming out of
> nowhere
> > to save a civilization.
>
> 1. Egyptians revered both dogs and cats.
> 2. The cats were cuaght and reared to deal with the rodent infestations,
> they did not decide to aid humanity they were bred to do the job.
> 3. You obviously don't know your history, when man domesticated a creature
> to aid in his hunts in prehistory he chose the dog. So to achieve the move
> to civilisation in the first place man used the dog not the cat.
> 4. The date of this famine you keep refering to please.
I don't know the exact date, but there is an Egyptian story about how the
cats came to be worshipped as a gift from the gods. Egypt had plenty of
grain from it's harvests, more then enough to feed it's people.
Unfortunately a massive infestation of rats were eating most of the stored
grain. The people were beginning to starve as there wasn't enough left to
feed them. Suddenly one day, out of the desert, came a large group of cats.
These began to feast on the rats. The Egyptians tried to befriend these
cats, but most were too scared and ran away. A few stayed behind and were
pampered by the Egyptians, even to the point of having temples built for
them to live in and slaves of their own to care for them. These cats were
the first known domesticated cats. Story takes place around 5000 years ago
(give or take).
Raven Ford
> > > A pack of wild dogs can easily take down... no, I'm not getting
> involved
> > in
> > > this...
> >
> > Smart person, just slap yourself whenever you feel an urge to post to
> these
> > ridicules topics. I wish that worked for me...
>
> Were you wanting one of us to slap you?
No, I like to slap people around, not get slapped around.
Raven Ford
> > > Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of
> > > someone cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking
> > > painful.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life,
> > > that's
> > a
> > > *very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a vitally
> > > important part of their psychology and to have them removed is
mentally
> > > scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
> >
> > They sedate the cats while the operation and their paws are sensitive
for
> > a while, but after a week or so they don't feel anything.
>
> They sedate, but there *is* lasting pain.
>
If it was cruel to the animal, do you think vets would suggest the
operation? Hmmm? And where did you hear that it left a lasting pain?
> >
> > As for mentally scarring, all the cats I know just go about with life as
> > though they were still there.
>
> They try to at any rate....
>
No, they do.
> >
> > It won't be very humane when if I have to get rid of the damn cat for
> > scratching up everything in site, either.
>
> Which shouldn't even be an option anyway.
Most people don't let animals rule their lives and they don't go out of the
way to appease the creature. If a cat was scratching up furniture and
people, it'd be declawed quickly or gotten rid of.
The Insidious Spyda
>
> Most people don't let animals rule their lives and they don't go out of the
> way to appease the creature. If a cat was scratching up furniture and
> people, it'd be declawed quickly or gotten rid of.
He likes to be domineered by cats, I think you all have a moral obligation to
get him into some kind of special care.
Matthew Hyde
>
> > > > Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of
> > > > someone cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking
> > > > painful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life,
> > > > that's
> > > a
> > > > *very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a vitally
> > > > important part of their psychology and to have them removed is
> mentally
> > > > scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
> > >
> > > They sedate the cats while the operation and their paws are sensitive
> for
> > > a while, but after a week or so they don't feel anything.
> >
> > They sedate, but there *is* lasting pain.
> >
>
> If it was cruel to the animal, do you think vets would suggest the
> operation? Hmmm? And where did you hear that it left a lasting pain?
>
I'm Jane Goodall's kick-ass alter ego, encoded in PERL to psychoanalyze
cats and impart everlasting hurtins on attack dogs! I'm the cat
anthropologist here, and you WILL... RESPECT... MAH... AUTHOR-IT-TAY!
Matthew Hyde
wildlife
Chuck
MY!! I'M THE GOD! I'M THE GOD!!!!
--
Chuck
http://www.sfdebris.com
rob.wn5
> rob.wn5 wrote:
>
> >
> > "Transcend" <tran...@cybertown.com> wrote in message
> > news:9da30a$hh17s$1...@ID-75240.news.dfncis.de...
> > > MKSheppard wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:42:48 +0000, Transcend
<tran...@cybertown.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > Snip
> >
> > > Heh, my big cat would tear the living shit out of you *and* your dog.
> > >
> >
> > Get a grip Transcend. Your cats dead against a Human let alone one with
a
> > dog.
>
> Nope.
Very well reasoned, would you care to give us more of these encyclopedic,
evidenced and intelligent answers? How about some form of proof that a
grown adult would not kick that 20lb cat to death and feed the remains to
his dog. You want to know why people keep calling you an idiot, look no
further than your answer above.
> > > > =-------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Me against single lion in Africa - I win, easily as I shoot it with
> > > > a Weatherby at 300 yards.
> > >
> > > Lone males aren't usually the ones out hunting. Since we are talking
> > about
> > > *equilivant* situations then try the same situation with the whole
> > pride's
> > > female hunters. You might take one, but you'd miss the 3 or 4
sneaking
> > > up behind you.
> >
> > They tend to charge threats to the pride, not sneak around. You are
> > confusing hunting techniques with threat behavior.
>
> Ok, then you get the same effect as a pack of wild dogs attacking you.
Or any other large group of animals (of course lion prides rarely have the
sheer numbers of truely social animals), congratulations on admitting you
were wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Me against a snarling pack of Timberwolves in Canada - Draw since
> > > > even if I shoot one, the rest will be leaping onto me in a orgy of
> > > > mauling.
> > >
> > > See above, also dogs have no sense of tactics, unlike cats when they
> > > hunt together.
> >
> > African Hunting Dog, Hyena's, Wolves, Bearhounds all employ hunting
> > tactics involving Herding and ambushes. They will then employ hit and
fade
> > against thjreats in a constant round robin designed to wear an
> > intruder/threat down without tiring themselves out.
>
> Yes, and can get their asses kicked by lions.
This is one of the great mythes of Africa, Hyena's and African Hunting dog
packs regularly steal kills from Lions and have never been shown to be
beaten by lions when confronted in similar numbers. However they have been
shown to drive away Lion Prides (even very hungry ones) and claim the meal
for themselves. Do you actually do *any* research before you post or do you
simply use popular "facts" and half-remembered anecdotes?
> > > >
> > > > Cats are really a luxury item.
> > > >
> > > > Dogs have had an immediate impact on the lives
> > > > of humans ever since the first hunter brought home
> > > > a wolf pup that had taken a liking to him untold
> > > > millenia ago...
> > >
> > > So cats haven't been selectively breed to be slaves, and certainly
not
> > for
> > > as long as dogs, so what. That's all dogs usually are, simple slaves
for
> > > humans.
> >
> > Yes I often got my dogs to pour me drinks, run me baths and do the
> > housework. Idiot! They are there as companions and to act as
combination
> > guards/hunters if necessary. Cats however are there to do whatever they
> > want. Only weak-willed morons would tolerate a cat as their only pet,
> > because they don't mind being domineered by an animal.
>
> Actually you'll find that many very intelligent, and strong minded,
> individuals own and love cats.
Name 5.
>
> > >
> > > > Cats....all they do is eat rats and act like assholes
> > >
You idiot, thats the story of Joseph from the bible.
The famines in Egypt have *ALL* been identified as being caused by Droughts
in the preceding years. Infact the most famous of these, as recorded by
Ptolemy V, had a famine that lasted 7 years that matched a drought of the
same period and the people of the time could make the connection
themselves. It had nothing to do with cats. Try to present some documented
evidence of your arguement in future, the researeching of it would quite
quickly show up the embarressing errors before you posted them.
Rob Wilson
rob.wn5
"Raven Ford" <rav...@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9deqk1$hjrv6$2...@ID-63060.news.dfncis.de...
>
>
> > > > Do you know what declawing *does* to cats? It's the equilivant of
> > > > someone cutting off your finger past the last joint. That's fucking
> > > > painful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Furthermore the pain will remain with a cat the rest of it's life,
> > > > that's
> > > a
> > > > *very* sensitive area to a cat. Lastly having those claws is a
vitally
> > > > important part of their psychology and to have them removed is
> mentally
> > > > scarring for life. Not very humane is it?
> > >
> > > They sedate the cats while the operation and their paws are sensitive
> for
> > > a while, but after a week or so they don't feel anything.
> >
> > They sedate, but there *is* lasting pain.
> >
>
> If it was cruel to the animal, do you think vets would suggest the
> operation? Hmmm? And where did you hear that it left a lasting pain?
You dare doubt the word of Jane, queen of the cats! Don't you realise that
through her years of intensive study she has learned to communicate with
cats and they have told her many things; the secrets of eternal youth, the
ways to massive riches and personal growth and the pain of being declawed.
>
> > >
> > > As for mentally scarring, all the cats I know just go about with life
as
> > > though they were still there.
> >
> > They try to at any rate....
> >
>
> No, they do.
>
> > >
> > > It won't be very humane when if I have to get rid of the damn cat for
> > > scratching up everything in site, either.
> >
> > Which shouldn't even be an option anyway.
>
> Most people don't let animals rule their lives and they don't go out of
the
> way to appease the creature. If a cat was scratching up furniture and
> people, it'd be declawed quickly or gotten rid of.
But they are all he has, so what if they ignore him, excepting when they
need a servant to clean up after them and feed them. Considering he lets
them treat him like shit, you have to wonder why he complains to us for
doing the same.
Rob Wilson
>
>
Chuck
"rob.wn5" <rob...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:FsEK6.7383$577.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > If it was cruel to the animal, do you think vets would suggest the
> > operation? Hmmm? And where did you hear that it left a lasting pain?
>
> You dare doubt the word of Jane, queen of the cats! Don't you realise that
> through her years of intensive study she has learned to communicate with
> cats and they have told her many things; the secrets of eternal youth, the
> ways to massive riches and personal growth and the pain of being declawed.
>
cats have trouble typing without the claws.
--
Chuck
http://www.sfdebris.com
rob.wn5
"Chuck" <so...@sfdebris.com> wrote in message
news:9df7sb$ha0c9$1...@ID-64862.news.dfncis.de...
Definitely Paws for thought.
Rob Wilson
basking in the sound of an entire NG groaning in disgust, punning is its
own reward..... good job really.
:-)
>
> --
> Chuck
> http://www.sfdebris.com
>
>
Phong Nguyen
<9devti$hu0gl$1...@ID-64862.news.dfncis.de>:
>>
>> I'm Jane Goodall's kick-ass alter ego, encoded in PERL to
>> psychoanalyze cats and impart everlasting hurtins on attack dogs! I'm
>> the cat anthropologist here, and you WILL... RESPECT... MAH...
>> AUTHOR-IT-TAY!
>>
>It's my will, my will not yours! I've got the keys to the kingdom! I!
>Me! MY!! I'M THE GOD! I'M THE GOD!!!!
>
Shit, both of these hafta go into the FUQ!
Phong Nguyen
<0wFK6.7664$577.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>:
>> They know all this? That explains why spam is always spelled so
>> poorly, the cats have trouble typing without the claws.
>
>Definitely Paws for thought.
>
>Rob Wilson
>basking in the sound of an entire NG groaning in disgust, punning is its
>own reward..... good job really.
>:-)
>
::mallets Rob into lunar orbit::
rob.wn5
"Phong Nguyen" <phong....@usa.net> wrote in message
news:Xns909DCDF02C0D3...@130.133.1.4...
You Hammered home your point there :-)
Oh dear, what a cat-astrophy. :-)
No get out Claws for me here :-)
Better S-cat while I can :-)
Rob Wilson
Chuck
--
Chuck
http://www.sfdebris.com
Colin Brian Witz
shush with all of your Mewing, and Caterwauling.