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Nomen Nescio

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Apr 22, 2002, 11:30:08 AM4/22/02
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One should point out that it has been shown in sci.psychology.psychotherapy,
beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the www.cyber-stalking.net web site
IS authored by none other that the psychologist who is breaking a police
agreement and is participating stalking and harassment herself. She will
be reported to all relevant authorities and she will be in trouble.
IN SHORT, that web site is a "sock puppet" for the disgraced and disgraceful
and unethical psychologist.

This lying and libelous/defamatory psychologist is a known, sick kook named
Leslie E. Packer. She got her psychology license in NY due to a loophole in
the Licensing Law. She is in violation of a police agreement and participating
in activities of stalking and harassment herself. See spp newsgroup for
all the clear details.

ThePsyko

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Apr 22, 2002, 2:51:57 PM4/22/02
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On 22 Apr 2002 in that fucked up hellhole known as alt.2600, an identity
claiming to be Nomen Nescio spewed forth
news:ed1220cf72ec7d25...@dizum.com:

omfg brad.. there is no evidence that she has anything to do with that
site.. nor does it seem to mention your name anywhere now does it? Yet
YOU continue to bring her into things in clear violation of the agreement
that you reached with the BCA investigator, YOU continue to harass and
stalk and threaten.. YOU have solicited others to engage in criminal
activity to discredit Dr Packer both professionally and personally..

suck it up Brad.. payback is a bitch ain't it

HAND

--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
"God told me to skin you alive"

http://prozac.iscool.net

Nomen Nescio

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Apr 22, 2002, 4:40:22 PM4/22/02
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thePsyko, Excellent evidence has been presented that the www.cyber-stalking.net
site is Leslie Packer's. Read it in the spp newsgroup.
If you need more: The BCA letter is obviously
the July '99 letter so often referred to. It is labeled as the letter
Brad received on Sanford's site AND Leslie's cyber-stalking site, of
course, provides a link to Sanford's (and Sanford provides several links back).
The cyber-stalking site, itself (given the link to Sanford), clearly seriously
false and defamatory of Brad.

Moreover, obviously (by looking at the letter itself), only Leslie and
Brad received a copy. Yet, the letter is on the www.cyber-stalking.net
site with NO citation (even though the site is otherwise careful to
provide citations and even has a biography page of citations -- but
Leslie Packer does not appear there). The reason why is clear SHE IS THE
SOURCE OF THE LETTER AND THE AUTHOR OF THE SITE (otherwise this would be
an only single unique case of plagiarism on the site -- not likely).

It is AGAIN obvious that Leslie is the owner and one of the authors of the site.
It is also clear she is AGAIN (as has been the case in the past) working
with hoodlum stalkers and hackers. (She has a long and obviously continuing
relationship with hoodlums that conduct harassing and illegal activities.)
She has not only engaged in defamation with her site (links and all)
(and violated her agreement with police) but she is at the very least
conplicit _and_ likely aiding and abetting stalking and harassment (and possibly
even extortion). The clear "Taylor" or "Taylor"/"Kali" connection shows
what I mean. Leslie is an obsessed abuser -- a real sicko. She can expect to be
reported to all agencies having to do with her and she no doubt will be
reported to both MN and NY police as well.

I am confident Brad will go all the way with every conceivable authority
immediately regarding this sick malicious stalking defamatory psychologist.

Mark D. Morin

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Apr 22, 2002, 7:40:15 PM4/22/02
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Nomen Nescio wrote:

> Moreover, obviously (by looking at the letter itself), only Leslie and
> Brad received a copy.

Remember what happens when you assume things. In this case you simply
make an ass out ouf yourself

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at you just as you're going off to do it, `What are you going to do,
Christopher Robin?' and you say, `Oh, nothing' and then you go and do
it. It means just going along, listening to all the things you can't
hear, and not bothering."


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ThePsyko

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Apr 22, 2002, 10:18:19 PM4/22/02
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On 22 Apr 2002 in that fucked up hellhole known as alt.2600, an identity
claiming to be Nomen Nescio spewed forth
news:59f7e504ba19ed6f...@dizum.com:

> thePsyko, Excellent evidence has been presented that the
> www.cyber-stalking.net site is Leslie Packer's. Read it in the spp
> newsgroup.

I HAVE read your posts Brad - you're making assumptions without solid
facts... do you really expect to be taken seriously?

> If you need more: The BCA letter is obviously
> the July '99 letter so often referred to. It is labeled as the letter
> Brad received on Sanford's site AND Leslie's cyber-stalking site, of
> course, provides a link to Sanford's (and Sanford provides several
> links back). The cyber-stalking site, itself (given the link to
> Sanford), clearly seriously false and defamatory of Brad.

Really? I don't see your name there anywhere...


>
> Moreover, obviously (by looking at the letter itself), only Leslie and
> Brad received a copy.

hmm.. lack of denial about the validity of the letter duely noted..

> Yet, the letter is on the
> www.cyber-stalking.net site with NO citation (even though the site is
> otherwise careful to provide citations and even has a biography page
> of citations -- but Leslie Packer does not appear there). The reason
> why is clear SHE IS THE SOURCE OF THE LETTER AND THE AUTHOR OF THE
> SITE (otherwise this would be an only single unique case of plagiarism
> on the site -- not likely).

orrrrrrr... perhaps since there aren't any names mentioned on that
section of the site - citation wasn't provided in an attempt to keep the
involved parties identities somewhat anonymous? IMO, you should email
the webmaster of cyber-stalking.net and THANK him for not revealing your
identity...

>
> It is AGAIN obvious that Leslie is the owner and one of the authors of
> the site.

How so?

>It is also clear she is AGAIN (as has been the case in the
> past) working with hoodlum stalkers and hackers.

proof? without proof to back up your claims, they may be construed as an
attempt to slander Dr Packer, or otherwise interfere with her
professional and / or personal life - a clear "no-no" according to the
letter which you agree Brad received a copy of...


>(She has a long and
> obviously continuing relationship with hoodlums that conduct harassing
> and illegal activities.) She has not only engaged in defamation with
> her site (links and all) (and violated her agreement with police) but
> she is at the very least conplicit _and_ likely aiding and abetting
> stalking and harassment (and possibly even extortion).

Really? Got some proof she is behind all this? Again, nowhere on that
site is your name mentioned. It is well known by hundreds (if not
thousands) of people that you have engaged in your campaign of
harassment, including (but not limited too) the filing of claims with
various professional agencies (claims which were later dismissed as
friviolous), sending thinly veiled threats via email - which can be
considered harassment, especially after you've been told to NOT email the
recipient, soliciting others to engage in illegal activities against
those whom you are harassing, consortion with individuals known by you to
have committed illegal activities and attempting to access / gain
possession of the material that was illegally obtained.. blah blah blah..
shall I go on Brad? I have a whole list here that I can fire off to the
nice policeman if you like.


>The clear
> "Taylor" or "Taylor"/"Kali" connection shows what I mean. Leslie is an
> obsessed abuser -- a real sicko.

LOL.. she hasn't posted here in HOW LONG??? Yet you continue to drag her
into things because you can't stand the fact that you can't beat her.
Face it Brad, YOU are the obsessed harasser / abuser.


> She can expect to be reported to all
> agencies having to do with her and she no doubt will be reported to
> both MN and NY police as well.

Better hope they don't arrest you when you walk through the doors...
people in glass houses and all that ya know..


>
> I am confident Brad will go all the way with every conceivable
> authority

Quite honestly, that's probably the ONLY way you could get them to listen
to you.. by letting them have their way with you... but that's ok, it'll
get you nice and ready for your prison stay.


>immediately regarding this sick malicious stalking
> defamatory psychologist.
>

blah blah blah.. where's the PROOF brad?

Dan Rogers

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Apr 22, 2002, 10:39:07 PM4/22/02
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"ThePsyko" <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
...
> brad the poot had mewled:

> > I am confident Brad will go all the way with every conceivable
> > authority
>
> Quite honestly, that's probably the ONLY way you could get them to listen
> to you.. by letting them have their way with you... but that's ok, it'll
> get you nice and ready for your prison stay.

That was really, really good! I knew the pros, such as yourself, would make
it worthwhile reading the responses to brad's kookout.

Dan R.
Master of Card XII
Order of the detrevnI Buckyball

Kali

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Apr 22, 2002, 10:38:37 PM4/22/02
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In article <59f7e504ba19ed6f...@dizum.com>,
posted Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:40:22 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
says...
:thePsyko, Excellent evidence has been presented that the www.cyber-stalking.net

:site is Leslie Packer's. Read it in the spp newsgroup.
: If you need more: The BCA letter is obviously
:the July '99 letter so often referred to. It is labeled as the letter
:Brad received on Sanford's site AND Leslie's cyber-stalking site, of
:course, provides a link to Sanford's (and Sanford provides several links back).
:The cyber-stalking site, itself (given the link to Sanford), clearly seriously
:false and defamatory of Brad.

Lordy! What a convoluted, paranoid load of crap.

:Moreover, obviously (by looking at the letter itself), only Leslie and
:Brad received a copy.

I think you are wrong about that. And, as Dr. Price (to you)
pointed out, that letter resides in the public domain. As will
your next debacle.

Yet, the letter is on the www.cyber-stalking.net
:site with NO citation (even though the site is otherwise careful to
:provide citations and even has a biography page of citations -- but
:Leslie Packer does not appear there). The reason why is clear SHE IS THE
:SOURCE OF THE LETTER AND THE AUTHOR OF THE SITE (otherwise this would be
:an only single unique case of plagiarism on the site -- not likely).

The only one I can think of around here who has committed
plagiarism is Beeeej.
:
:It is AGAIN obvious that Leslie is the owner and one of the authors of the site.

I don't see it, Beeeeeej.

:It is also clear she is AGAIN (as has been the case in the past) working


:with hoodlum stalkers and hackers. (She has a long and obviously continuing
:relationship with hoodlums that conduct harassing and illegal activities.)
:She has not only engaged in defamation with her site (links and all)
:(and violated her agreement with police) but she is at the very least
:conplicit _and_ likely aiding and abetting stalking and harassment (and possibly
:even extortion).

Extortion, that would be Beeeeej. In a felony kind of way!

The clear "Taylor" or "Taylor"/"Kali" connection shows
:what I mean.

Lart.com, Kali and Taylor. I'll have to begrudge you that
connection, Sherlock. But how so with Leslie? She and I write
each other an average of once per year, ferchrissakes. She
hasn't posted here in eons. What is the connection, other than
a strong, very strong, dislike of Beeeeej?

: Leslie is an obsessed abuser -- a real sicko.

Projecting again, Beeeeeeej. It is you who is obsessed. Take
your left hand out of the slider box and count the number of
postings Leslie has made to spp in the past year. On the same
hand, count the number of times she has mentioned Beeeeej in
the past year. Now, go out behind the loo and look at the
mountain of slider boxes. That is how many times Beeeeeej has
posted about Leslie in a defamatory way in spp in the past
year. You can't count that high, fut.

Projection = obsessed stalker calls his victim an obsessed
abuser.

Get it?

She can expect to be
:reported to all agencies having to do with her and she no doubt will be
:reported to both MN and NY police as well.

The MN police have no jurisdiction over Leslie, but they do
have over you. I'd think about this one, if I were Beeeeeej.
But I'm not. Er... do it, Beeeeej. Do it now!

:I am confident Brad will go all the way with every conceivable authority


:immediately regarding this sick malicious stalking defamatory psychologist.

More publicly displayed homosexual fantasies. Get some help,
perv!

Kali

--
Brad Jesness "In His Own Shameful Words" :-X
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq

Iceman

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Apr 22, 2002, 10:39:25 PM4/22/02
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Forwarded to appropriate people.

Nomen Nescio

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Apr 23, 2002, 8:50:19 AM4/23/02
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This is in response to Kali's (aka Kim (Kym) Barnard'S) post which shows she is
a law breaker and engaging in illegal stalking and harassment (the ONLY
stalking and harassment going on here AND the ONLY stalking and harassment people have seen). If Brad DID anything like Kali does, it would be
labeled stalking and harassment and you would never here the end of it.
Let me describe the current stalking and harassment and defamation team.
(This is the SECOND such team DOING BASICALLY THE VERY SAME STALKING
AND HARASSMENT AND DEFAMATION -- it was preceded by the combo. of "Taylor
Jimenez" (aka Sanford Wallace) and "Client Lartvocate" WHO did the same
thing.)

There are three parties to the ONLY stalking and harassment
going on presently. This is basically the same stalking and harassment
provided by the earlier team and all this is the ONLY STALKING AND
HARASSMENT PEOPLE IN THIS NEWSGROUP HAVE EVER SEEN.


One party , the evidence indicates, is NY Licensed Psychologist,
Leslie E. Packer of NY who appears to be violating an agreement
with police she has NOT to engage in defamation of Brad. Her
activities and all activities described below has no doubt been
reported to all relevant authorities (or are being reported presently).

She runs a web site that is linked to another one run by the notorious
abuser and spammer, Sanford Wallace. Wallace's site links back to
Leslie's site several times. Thus a link to Wallaces site (provided in
a stalking and harassing manner ALMOST DAILY) links back to the site
that evidence connects with Dr. Leslie E. Packer of NY.

For more on Leslie E. Packer and for more details of the conduct of the
leaders of this newsgroup see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=***+THE+sppFAQ***!&hl=en&selm=1f47cdadf405afaf7fff9a05bf1eb1f3%40mixmaster.nullify.org&rnum=8

The third party of the stalking team is "Kali" (aka Kim/Kym Barnard)
she is the one doing the actual stalking and harassment and does
her own defamation along with advertising the defamation of Wallace
and Packer. What "Kali" is doing is illegal stalking and harassment
under the law and she has been no doubt been reported to police
authorities.


More now on the "king-pin" 'helper' (party #2, described above) ,
Sanford Wallace. This is a man who has
been prohibited by a Court from doing spam and an all-around
criminal-type:
S. Wallace is a die-in-the-wool psychopath.


I shall now quote a post indicating Sanford Wallace's
(aka "Taylor Jimenez's") statement that he is
doing this to punish Brad (or someone his thinks is Brad) for posting to Usenet. He simply demands that Brad (or anyone who seems to support or be
Brad) just completely stop using Usenet.

I shall follow the quote of that post by a a copy of all the three emails
which engage in terroristic threats.
(This email include some terroristic threats -- right after 9/11 !!!)
Then some of the clear connections
"Taylor" (actually Sanford Wallace) has with forgeries and email harassment

Evidence of use of abusive page for extortion to censor Brad
from posting to Internet newsgroups:


>From: Just Taylor <tay...@lart.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
>Subject: Re: Has the Brad FAQ on Lart.com been hacked???
>Organization: "To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
>Message-ID: <sgbqptc84kg96pcb8...@4ax.com>
>References: <9n95p4$649c7$1...@ID-64394.news.dfncis.de>
><_ZWl7.1247$7G6.9...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>
>X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.553
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Lines: 22
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.203.100.144
>X-Complaints-To: ab...@prodigy.net
>X-Trace: newssvr13.news.prodigy.com 1000156862 ST000 63.203.100.144 (Mon,
>10 Sep 2001 17:21:02 EDT)
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:21:02 EDT
>X-UserInfo1:
>FKPO@MC@O@UQB_X[NCOF_W\@PJ_^PBQLGPQRZUEK@YUDUWYAKVUOPCW[ML\JXUCKVFDYZKBMSFX^
>OMSAFNTINTDDMVW[X\THOPXZRVOCJTUTPC\_JSBVX\KAOTBAJBVMZTYAKMNLDI_MFDSSOLXINH__
>FS^\WQGHGI^C@E[A_CF\AQLDQ\BTMPLDFNVUQ_VM
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:21:02 GMT
>
>
>On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 03:16:11 GMT, "Iceman" <c0l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>If you did a "view source" this is what is said,
>><META content="This page will remain up as long
>>as Brad Jesness remains out of sight." name=Author>
>
>That's correct. No hack took place. Brad is not that smart. As long as
>Brad is MIA, the page will remain as is. The minute Brad shows up and
>freaks out, the Brad FAQ goes back up.
>
>The Advocate is not a unfair man. If Brad can live up to his agreement so
>can The Advocate. Brad breaks his word, the page is up with tons of new
>info loaded for maximum embarrassment.
>
>
>--
>Taylor NetScum (RIP 10/16/97)
>****************************************************
>I AM SO SMART! I AM SO SMART!
>s-m-r-t...I MEAN s-m-A-r-t! - Homer Simpson, 1994
>****************************************************
>"To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
>
>

>
>(end quoted post of extortion)


----
Other earlier (but associated anon threats):

>>Return-Path: <m...@mix.winterorbit.com>
>Received: from dorchain.europeonline.net ([194.177.33.15])
> by mtiwgwc22.worldnet.att.net
> (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP
> id <20011020074115.QHCL17932....@dorchain.europeonline.net>
> for <alts...@att.net>; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 07:41:15 +0000
>Received: (from mix@localhost)
> by dorchain.europeonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9K7fD106526;
> Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:41:13 +0200
>Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:41:13 +0200
>From: Anonymous <nob...@mix.winterorbit.com>
>Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <ab...@mix.winterorbit.com>.
>To: alts...@att.net
>Subject: Do you really want to do this???
>Message-ID: <cfc6832c9fd5e569...@mix.winterorbit.com>
>
>Brad,
>
>See you are getting braver, and posting hate stuff again.
>
>Do you really want to do this??
>
>Remember, I own you!
>
>
>
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>Subject: gloves
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>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:33:56 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Are you using gloves and a mask to check your mail?
>
>I thought not.
>
>Might be wise in todays environment.
>
>
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>
>Thought you were going to move out of ur wifes house?
>
>
>(end quoted posts and earlier notes)
>
>


Now, the sort of email abuse of Brad after
Brad contacted him as a "domain admin." Sanford Wallace is PROHIBITED BY A
COURT FROM DOING EMAIL ABUSE. HE SHALL BE REPORTED TO THE APPROPRIATE
AUTHORITIES SHORTLY.

This has to do with the way this
"domain administrator" revealed Brad's email address publicly to abusive people,
IN ADDITION to emailing Brad in a harassing manner, just after Brad wrote to
him to complain about the libelous and personal and abusive web site of his,
http://www.lart.com/brad .

"Taylor" Jimenez did apparently post Brad's email address using
x-no-archive
and also he posted it using aliases (that looked like forgeries from Brad
himself).

STILL, we are able to provide some record of the postings he did to solicit
abuse on Brad at my previously unknown email address by quoting posts that
quote his "forgeries" of Brad giving out Brad's address The email address
show the exact strange forms of Brad's email address available to
"Taylor" in the headers he obtained via official complaints to him as
"domain administrator".

The forgeries by "Taylor" **appear quoted** in the following posts:

>From: Turd...@cotse.com (Turd Fredericks)
>Newsgroups: alt.2600
>Subject: Re: BadAss Hacker Needed! Hot Monkey for Sex Needed!
>Organization: The Brad FAQ at: http://www.lart.com/brad/
>Reply-To: Turd...@cotse.com
>Message-ID: <3b9ad449...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com>
>References: <gkmapt0vo3o7jul29...@4ax.com>
><3b995d5a...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com>
><i0kbpts6auhk576fs...@4ax.com>
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>
>
>On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:00:52 GMT, PC Chick
><pc_chickie@*spaminator*yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:00:56 GMT, Turd...@cotse.com (Turd Fredericks)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:50:09 -0700, B. Jesness
>>><monkeyb...@jesness.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm looking for a cool cat hacker that can take care of some trouble
>makers.
>>>>I'll pay money too! E-mail me at alts...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net and
>>>>I'll give you all the details.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I'm looking for a couple of hot monkeys to have sex with. If you
>>>>have a monkey or a very hairy woman e-mail me at the above address.
>>>>
>>>>You know what? Forget about the hacking, just find me a money to have sex
>>>>with. I'll pay up to $1,000 for a monkey. I'll double it if the monkey is
>>>>experienced and last longer than the 30 seconds I can.
>>>>
>>>>B. Jesness
>>>
>>>Stick with the pigs. A monkey could quickly outsmart you, and maybe
>>>even turn the tables making you the "catcher".
>>
>>But, to be the "pitcher", he'd need balls, right? Brad is well known to
>>be dickless, weren't those other items in doubt as well?
>>
>>bitchlet
>
>You're right. What was I thinking?
>
>Whilst surfing the web, I found a picture of Brad's penis, perhaps it
>should be included in the lart FAQ?
>
> http://www.atlasperovic.com/contents/3.htm
>_____________________________________________
>The treasure can't be found by men who search
>Whose gods are dead and whose queens are in the church.
>
>-Bob Dylan
>
>
>-------------
>


~~

u're right. What was I thinking?
>
>Whilst surfing the web, I found a picture of Brad's penis, perhaps it
>should be included in the lart FAQ?
>
> http://www.atlasperovic.com/contents/3.htm
>_____________________________________________
>The treasure can't be found by men who search
>Whose gods are dead and whose queens are in the church.
>
>-Bob Dylan
>


Nomen Nescio

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Apr 23, 2002, 9:40:06 AM4/23/02
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Standard Response (updated).
This is in response to Kali's (aka Kim (Kym) Barnard's) post which shows she is

a law breaker and engaging in illegal stalking and harassment (the ONLY
stalking and harassment going on here AND the ONLY stalking and harassment
people have seen). If Brad DID anything like Kali does, it would be
labeled stalking and harassment, ETC. and you would never here the end of it.

Let me describe the current stalking and harassment and defamation team.
(This is the SECOND such team DOING BASICALLY THE VERY SAME STALKING
AND HARASSMENT AND DEFAMATION -- it was preceded by the combo. of "Taylor
Jimenez" (aka Sanford Wallace) and "Client Lartvocate" WHO did the same
thing.)

There are three parties to the ONLY stalking and harassment

going on presently (Kim Barnard ("Kali"), Sanford Wallace, and Packer).


This is basically the same stalking and harassment
provided by the earlier team and all this is the ONLY STALKING AND
HARASSMENT PEOPLE IN THIS NEWSGROUP HAVE EVER SEEN.


One party , the evidence indicates, is NY Licensed Psychologist,
Leslie E. Packer of NY who appears to be violating an agreement
with police she has NOT to engage in defamation of Brad. Her
activities and all activities described below has no doubt been
reported to all relevant authorities (or are being reported presently).

She runs a web site that is linked to another one run by the notorious
abuser and spammer, Sanford Wallace. Wallace's site links back to

Leslie's site several times. "Thanks" to the third party in the stalking
and harassment and defamation team ("kali"), a link to Wallaces site is provided in
a stalking and harassing manner ALMOST DAILY. Spcifically, "Kali" links to Wallace's
site who links back to the site


that evidence connects with Dr. Leslie E. Packer of NY.

For more on Leslie E. Packer and for more details of the conduct of the
leaders of this newsgroup see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=***+THE+sppFAQ***&hl=en&selm=252e10a434718cd26edcaf968e05c13a%40remailer.privacy.at&rnum=4

Nomen Nescio

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*Final Version*, Standard Response (updated, ***ALL things considered***).

This is in response to Kali's (aka Kim (Kym) Barnard's) post which shows she
is a law breaker and engaging in illegal stalking and harassment (the ONLY
stalking and harassment going on here AND the ONLY stalking and harassment
people have seen). If Brad DID anything like Kali does, it would be
labeled stalking and harassment, ETC. and you would never here the end of it.
Let me describe the current stalking and harassment and defamation team.
(This is the SECOND such team DOING BASICALLY THE VERY SAME STALKING
AND HARASSMENT AND DEFAMATION -- it was preceded by the combo. of "Taylor
Jimenez" (aka Sanford Wallace) and "Client Lartvocate" WHO did the same
thing.)

There are three noteworthy parties to the ONLY stalking and harassment


going on presently (Kim Barnard ("Kali"), Sanford Wallace, and Packer).
This is basically the same stalking and harassment
provided by the earlier team and all this is the ONLY STALKING AND
HARASSMENT PEOPLE IN THIS NEWSGROUP HAVE EVER SEEN.


One party , the evidence indicates, is NY Licensed Psychologist,
Leslie E. Packer of NY who appears to be violating an agreement
with police she has NOT to engage in defamation of Brad. Her
activities and all activities described below has no doubt been
reported to all relevant authorities (or are being reported presently).

She is a party in a web site that is linked to another one run by the notorious
abuser and spammer, Sanford Wallace. Wallace's site links back to the site
Leslie is involved with site several times. "Thanks" to the third party in the


stalking
and harassment and defamation team ("kali"), a link to Wallaces site is provided

in a stalking and harassing manner ALMOST DAILY. Specifically, "Kali" links to

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