TROPICAL or SIDEREAL ???
Anonymous
On Tue, 07 Aug 2001, "agalland2" <agal...@home.com> wrote:
>I was born 7:40pm at (29.97N and 90.05W) New Orleans LA.
>on 8/23/50. I am so close to the cusp that quite a few things change
>between Tropical and Sidereal. In Tropical I am a Virgo with Pisces rising
>and in the Sidereal I am a Leo with Aquarious rising. What am I ? I am not
>trying to lean only on the sun sign but I don't know enough about astrology
>yet to compare the other planets and their positions and aspects.
>
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I find your chart -- and question -- interesting.
I practice & teach judicial astrology & so I did
your astronomical portrait as Nostradamus did do:
The planets who rule the horoscope [Lat. themate]
place hierarchically by their positions TO Earth.
The Moon & Stars of evening i.e. not the morning
are transliterated in the iris i.e. the covenant
which numbers seven diatonic // twelve chromatic
a.k.a. the Law of the iris, which is unbreakable
as Edgar Cayce gave many readings describing the
One, who is our heaven-in-practice. Two prophets,
one practice, which the injustice of the age has
all but occulted from cognizance the astronomers.
Thanks to Nosty & Cayce the ancient way is known
even today, but apart from the two (& 1000) none
are knowing neither do they practice, these amis
in these last days, before the Sun is born again
in the tree of life in the midst on Dec 21, 2012.
As for your place in time or time in place, ibid
your Sun is verily Leo with bearded star Regulus
in sixth of zodiac--in your case is commensurate
with houses of horoscope via planetary influence
under which terrestrial numbering is=>transposed;
this, the theme or horoscope, to see make better
in ones earthly experience powered under The Sol
who rules Leo, which is the fifth-twelfth of the
caelestial firmament or sky-apparent to infinity
i.e. eighth heaven ruled by Uranus, the extremes
beyond Saturn's veil; muse Urania (of astronomy).
In your chart, Uranus is Gemini, in fourth house.
You'll notice the Sun 150.33 ecliptic arcdegrees
from the vernal equinoctial point hence is sixth
tropical house ruled by Mercury who is 3 degrees
Virgo. The tropical/seasonal zodiac is the ninth
heaven ruled by Neptune, muse Thalia of (divine)
comedy. This is the realm just above crystalline
earth (Lat. terra firma), the waters & sky above
together relative in the angle of sunlight below
the van allen belt where all earthly life exists
predominantly on--and very near--earth's surface.
In your chart Neptune is Virgo, in seventh house.
The sixth heaven, who is Jupiter ascending aloft,
rules in twelfth house, but your souljourn first
heaven is the Moon falling in angle to midheaven
tenth house; hence is "I am so close"..."quite a
few things change". Your natal Moon was receding
malefic-changability-of Moon fallen under Saturn.
I would continue, but the chart says it all, and
so I leave you to complete the horoscope reading
as the 1000 & two (fiducial stars of the zodiac).
A primitive graphic of your chart is available at:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=4&zod=-s&add=18&add=19&node=-Yn&fix=1&sday=7&smon=8&syr=2001&rs=&orbp=&cid=lycfileVUruGF-u997192844&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=
Astronomically accurate adjudication of your horoscope is
made using Astrolog ver 5.41F SWEPH/FIXSTARS available at:
http://www.tartu.customs.ee/astrolog/changed/changed.shtml:
Mercury's day 23-Aug-1950 7:40pm CST (ST -6:00 GMT) 90:05W 29:97N
Body Caelestial Equinox Latitude r zo=>Hs RUL. Velocity
Midheaven : 2Sag51'44" 266.961 __________ 10=>10 | __________
Moon : 21Sag17'50" 285.396 - 4:59'28" - 10=>10 [F] +13.988052
Jupiter : 8Aqu40'45" 332.778 - 1:17'44" - 12=>12 [R] -0.1314097
Ascendant : 1Pis02'54" 355.147 __________ 12=>12 | __________
East Point: 2Pis17'32" 356.391 __________ - 1=> 1 [R] __________
True Node : 4Pis32'43" 358.644 + 0:00'00" d 1=> 1 [-] -0.0646234
Vernal Pt.: 05Pis54'05" 000.000 + 0:00'00" 1=> 1 | __________
Lilith : 0Tau49'30" 054.924 + 4:13'54" F 2=> 2 [F] +0.1116694
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" 069.099 - 5:28'13" 3=> 3 | alTau
Antemidhea: 2Gem51'44" 086.961 __________ 4=> 4 | __________
Polaris : 3Gem46'20" 087.871 +66:05'28" 4=> 4 | alUMi
Uranus : 14Gem12'36" 098.309 + 0:16'54" - 4=> 4 [-] +0.0420721
Venus : 15Can01'05" 129.117 + 0:35'37" - 5=> 5 [-] +1.2224556
Spirit : 16Can06'42" 130.210 __________ - 5=> 5 [-] __________
Pluto : 24Can07'31" 138.224 + 8:05'09" - 5=> 5 [-] +0.0302912
Regulus : 5Leo02'20" 149.138 + 0:27'48" 6=> 6 | alLeo
Sun : 6Leo14'02" 150.333 - 0:00'00" R 6=> 6 [-] +0.9639738
Thuban : 12Leo38'31" 156.741 +66:21'40" 6=> 6 | alDra
Saturn : 25Leo44'24" 169.839 + 1:55'56" F 6=> 6 [-] +0.1202259
Descendant: 1Vir02'54" 175.147 __________ 6=> 6 | __________
Alkaid : 2Vir07'47" 176.228 +54:23'29" 6=> 6 | etUMa
Mercury : 3Vir21'54" 177.464 - 2:30'28" R 7=> 7 [-] +0.8205004
Vertex : 3Vir49'05" 177.917 __________ d 7=> 7 [R] __________
Neptune : 21Vir21'26" 195.456 + 1:34'45" F 7=> 7 [-] +0.0282306
Mars : 14Lib08'47" 218.245 - 0:51'05" F 8=> 8 [R] +0.6318913
Fortune : 15Lib59'06" 220.084 __________ - 8=> 8 [-] __________
Rastaban : 17Sco10'41" 251.277 +75:17'22" 9=> 9 | beDra
Body Angle X axis Y axis Z axis Length
Eart: [ 0.000] [ 0.000] [ 0.000] [ 0.000] [ 0.000]~
Sun : [126.234] [ -0.598] [ 0.815] [ -0.000] [ 1.011]+
Moon: [261.297] [ -0.000] [ -0.002] [ -0.000] [ 0.002]-
Merc: [153.365] [ -0.784] [ 0.393] [ -0.038] [ 0.877]+
Venu: [105.018] [ -0.405] [ 1.508] [ 0.016] [ 1.561]-
Mars: [194.146] [ -1.481] [ -0.373] [ -0.023] [ 1.527]-
Jupi: [308.679] [ 2.497] [ -3.119] [ -0.090] [ 3.997]+
Satu: [145.740] [ -8.564] [ 5.833] [ 0.350] [ 10.368]-
Uran: [ 74.210] [ 5.309] [ 18.773] [ 0.096] [ 19.509]+
Nept: [171.357] [-30.638] [ 4.657] [ 0.854] [ 31.002]-
Plut: [114.125] [-15.029] [ 33.557] [ 5.224] [ 37.138]+
Node: [334.545] [ 0.002] [ -0.001] [ 0.000] [ 0.003]-
Lili: [ 30.825] [ 0.002] [ 0.001] [ 0.000] [ 0.003]~
(NOTE "+" benefic, moving closer, "-" receding malefic)
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Here're some helpful astronomy charts for your reference:
COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Place Musa goddess
Tenth Primum Mobile Earth/Pluto Mnemosyne Memory
Ninth Mobile Seasons/Neptune Thalia Comedy
Eighth Caelest.Firma. Stars/Uranus Urania Astronomy
Seventh SATVRNI Saturn Polihymnia Hymnody
Sixth IOVIS Jupiter Euterpe Melody
Fifth MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
Fourth SOLIS Sun Melpomene Tragedy
Third VENERIS Venus Terpsicore Dance
Second MERCVRII Mercury Kaliope Epic
First LVNE Moon Klio History
Sacred Glomes (compoundings)
Heaven Planet: Synodic Sidereal
1 Moon: 29.53 27.32166
2 Mercury: 115.9 87.97046
3 *Venus: 583.9 224.6982
4 Sun: ----- 365.2564
5 Mars: 780.0 686.9257
6 Jupiter: 399.9 4332.230
7 Saturn: 378.1 10800.44
8 Uranus: 369.7 30953.48
9 Neptune: 367.5 60839.69
10 Pluto: 366.7 91305.20
General Planet Data
Planet: AU Year Diam Hr/Day Mass Dens Axis Sat
Earth: 1.000 1.00 1.000 24.00 1.000 5.50 23.50 1
Sun: 0.000 0.00 109.125 720.00 322946.000 1.37 00.00 9
Moon: 0.003 0.07 0.272 655.73 0.012 3.34 06.70 0
Mercury: 0.387 0.24 0.382 1407.60 0.055 5.44 02.00 0
Venus: 0.723 0.62 0.949 5832.24 0.815 5.25 02.70 0
Mars: 1.524 1.88 0.532 24.62 0.107 3.92 25.19 2
Jupiter: 5.203 11.86 11.209 9.84 317.938 1.24 03.12 16
Saturn: 9.539 29.46 9.449 10.23 95.181 0.62 26.73 18
Uranus:19.191 84.01 4.007 17.90 14.531 1.24 82.14 15
Neptune:30.061 164.79 3.883 19.20 17.135 1.61 29.60 8
Pluto:39.529 248.54 0.180 153.29 0.002 2.06 57.54 1
IRIS
11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A
IVi Vio Red ROr Ora OYe Yel Gre GBl Blu BIn Ind
| /Ir /Uv | | | | | | | | |
|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
Aqu Pis Ari Tau Gem Can Leo Vir Lib Sco Sag Cap<=8th Heaven
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec<=9th Heaven
Sat Jup Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat<=Rulers
/Ur /Ne | | | | | | | /Pl | |
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Planetary Aspects
House Note Deg. Aspect Ruler Color
1 C 0 Conjunct Mars Red
2 C# 30 Semisextile Venus Red-Orange
3 D 60 Sextile Mercury Orange
4 D# 90 Square Moon Orange-Yellow
5 E 120 Trine Sun Yellow
6 F 150 Inconjunct Mercury Green
7 F# 180 Opposition Venus Green-Blue
8 G 210 Inconjunct Mars/Pluto Blue
9 G# 240 Trine Jupiter Blue-Indigo
10 A 270 Square Saturn Indigo
11 A# 300 Sextile Saturn/Uranus Indigo-Violet
12 B 330 Semisextile Jupiter/Neptune Violet
Caelestial Zodiac
Ch Sign Glyph Quality Ruler
01 Aries Ram Ambition Mars
02 Taurus Bull Passion Venus
03 Gemini Twins Communication Mercury
04 Cancer Crab Imagination Moon
05 Leo Lion Power Sun
06 Virgo Virgin Virtue Mercury
07 Libra Scales Justice Venus
08 Scorpius Scorpion Vitality Mars/Pluto
09 Sagittarius Archer Fortune Jupiter
10 Capricorn Horned Goat Discipline Saturn
11 Aquarius Water Bearer Inspiration Saturn/Uranus
12 Pisces Fishes Mysticism Jupiter/Neptune
Terrestrial Houses
(meridian houses of the horoscope)
Hs Rulership Ruler
01 - Ego - Mars
02 - Riches - Venus
03 - Brothers - Mercury
04 - Parents - Moon
05 - Sons - Sun
06 - Servants - Mercury
07 - Marriage - Venus
08 - Death - Mars/Pluto
09 - Spirit - Jupiter
10 - Society - Saturn
11 - Friends - Saturn/Uranus
12 - Debts - Jupiter/Neptune
Summary of Rulerships in the Iris
(name,rule,co-rule,fall,co-fall,exalt,debilitate)
Name Rul Crl Fal Cfl Exa Deb
Sun Leo Aqu Ari Lib
Moon Can Cap Tau Sco
Mercury Gem Vir Sag Pis Aqu Leo
Venus Lib Tau Ari Sco Pis Vir
Mars Ari Sco Lib Tau Cap Can
Jupiter Sag Pis Gem Vir Can Cap
Saturn Cap Aqu Can Leo Lib Ari
Uranus Aqu Leo Sco Tau
Neptune Pis Vir Sag Gem
Pluto Sco Tau Vir Pis
Node Aqu Leo Vir Pis
Lilith Sco Tau Pis Vir
Fortune Pis Vir Sag Gem
Planets of Evening (superior) & Morning (inferior)
Sun-Day
"In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and
the earth--the earth hath existed waste and void, and
darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of
God fluttering on the face of the waters, and God saith,
'Let light be'; and light is. And God seeth the light
that it is good, and God separateth between the light
and the darkness, and God calleth to the light 'Day',
and to the darkness He hath called 'Night'; and there
is evening, and there is morning--day one." Gen 1:1-5
Moon-Day
And God saith, 'Let an expanse be in the midst of the
waters, and let it be separating between waters and
waters.' And God maketh the expanse, and it separateth
between the waters which are under the expanse, and the
waters which are above the expanse: and it is so. And
God calleth to the expanse 'Heavens'; and there is
evening, and there is morning--day second." 6-8 ibid
Mars-Day
"And God saith, 'Let the waters under the heavens be
collected unto one place, and let the dry land be seen':
and it is so. And God calleth to the dry land 'Earth',
and to the collection of the waters He hath called
'Seas'; and God seeth that it is good. And God saith,
'Let the earth yield tender grass, herb sowing seed,
fruit-tree (whose seed is in itself) making fruit after
its kind, on the earth': and it is so. And the earth
bringeth forth tender grass, herb sowing seed after its
kind, and tree making fruit (whose seed is in itself)
after its kind; and God seeth that it is good; and there
is evening, and there is morning--day third." 9-13
Mercury-Day
"And God saith, 'Let luminaries be in the expanse of
the heavens, to make a separation between the day and
the night, then they have been for signs, and for seasons,
and for days and years, and they have been for luminaries
in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth':
and it is so. And God maketh the two great luminaries,
the great luminary for the rule of the day, and the small
luminary--and the stars also--for the rule of the night;
and God giveth them in the expanse of the heavens to give
light upon the earth, and to rule over day and over night,
and to make a separation between the light and the darkness;
and God seeth that it is good; and there is evening, and
there is morning--day fourth." 14-19
Jupiter-Day
And God saith, 'Let the waters teem with the teeming living
creature, and fowl let fly on the earth on the face of the
expanse of the heavens.' And God prepareth the great monsters,
and every living creature that is creeping, which the waters
have teemed with, after their kind, and every fowl with wing,
after its kind, and God seeth that it is good. And God blesseth
them, saying, 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters
in the seas, and the fowl let multiply in the earth': and
there is evening, and there is morning--day fifth." 20-23
Venus-Day
And God saith, 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature
after its kind, cattle and creeping thing, and beast of the
earth after its kind': and it is so. And God maketh the beast
of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind,
and every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, and
God seeth that it is good. And God saith, 'Let Us make man in
Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over
fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is
creeping on the earth.' And God prepareth the man in His image;
in the image of God He prepared him, male and female He prepared
them. And God blesseth them, and God saith to them, 'Be fruitful,
and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over
fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over every
living thing that is creeping upon the earth.' And God saith,
'Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon
the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit
of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food; and to every beast
of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to every
creeping thing on the earth, in which is breath of life, every
green herb is for food': and it is so. And God seeth all that
He hath done, and lo, very good; and there is evening, and
there is morning--day the sixth." 24-31
Saturn-Day
And the heavens and the earth are completed, and all their
host; and God completeth by the seventh day His work which
He hath made, and ceaseth by the seventh day from all His
work which He hath made. And God blesseth the seventh day,
and sanctifieth it, for in it He hath ceased from all His
work which God had prepared for making. These are births
of the heavens and of the earth in their being prepared,
in the day of Jehovah God's making earth and heavens; 2:1-4
That's all for now,
-Daniel Joseph Min
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Why haven't you joined McVeigh in hell yet?
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net pest, coward and asshole (Daniel Joseph Min) wrote:
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Please GFY!