Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young Jewish Boys?
Jerome Goldberg
Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
filth.
Jerry
Kenneth McVay OBC
In article <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
Jerome Goldberg <jer...@privacymail.com> wrote:
>Dear Nizkor,
> I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
>population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
>when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
>true?
Interesting and creative troll. I suggest that you hold a seance, and
ask this question of Mr. Roehm himself.....
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Doc Tavish
On 24 Jun 1998 18:37:45 GMT, kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
wrote:
>In article <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>Jerome Goldberg <jer...@privacymail.com> wrote:
>>Dear Nizkor,
>> I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
>>population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
>>when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
>>true?
>
>Interesting and creative troll. I suggest that you hold a seance, and
>ask this question of Mr. Roehm himself.....
In my estimation it appears that Nizkor is once again being evasive.
Why didn't you adress the "meat" of the post?
Jerry did ask:
"I now question as whether pig Roehm really had to coerce all the
Jewish boys by the present actions of my friends. Is this not
assimilating and giving in when a Jew performs oral sex on an
uncircumcised penis?"
Chuck Ferree
From Chuck Ferree:
Cuddles wrote: Note how quickly Chuck leaps in when he sees the words 'molest young
Jewish boys' in the heading . . .
> Keep waving the handbag, Chuck!
>
> Cuddles
CF:>>>Boy you are sure scratching at the bottom of the barrel. Why don't you deal
with your posts and my posts? Running away like a Gerble being chased by a kitty
kat.
A short lesson. You need a lot more, but we gotta start someplace.
A Dictionary of Terms
1 . Einsatzgruppen - Active Military Duty Battalions of the Nazis -
compiled mainly of sections of the
police- who accompanied the German Military Forces in the war in order ‘to
purify the area from its
threatening elements.’
2 . Aktion - The forced ‘gathering’ and deportation of the Jews from
urban centers and ghettos to the
death camps.
3 . General Government - The area of central occupied Poland in World
War Two that was
administered by the Germans under the command of Dr. Hans Franke.
4 . Gestapo - The State political police in the Third Reich.
5 . Vanessee Conference - The conference that was called by the head of
the Secret Police,
Heydrich, and which took place in January 1942, in Vanessee, a suburb of
Berlin. Its purpose was to
coordinate the activities of the various sections in carrying out ‘the final
solution of the Jewish problem’ The
participants were the heads of the various government offices, and
representatives of the local German
authorities and the police.
6 . The Nuremberg Laws - Two basic laws that were passed as laws of the
State at a convention of
the Nazi Party, in September 1935. According to these laws, Jews were
deprived of their civil rights and
were forbidden to marry or have sexual relations with members of the ‘Aryan
Race’.
7 . Nazi - An abbreviation of National Socialist, signifying a member
of the National Socialist Party.
8 . Selection - The process of selecting Jews in the ghettos and in the
camps for their ability (
temporary) to work; those found lacking were sent straight to the gas
chambers.
9 . SS - At the beginning, these were the personal bodyguards of Hitler
and the higher ranks of the
party. Later on, they became the elite of the Nazi party who had complete
authority over the police, the
concentration camps, and all the military and economic power of Germany.
Himmler and Heydrich stood at
the head of the SS, which was in charge of carrying out the liquidation of
the Jews.
10 . The Final Solution - (of the Jewish Question) - A euphemism for
the total liquidation of the
Jews.
CF:>>>>>This is the subject matter, deal with it !
Chuck Ferree
From Chuck Ferree
Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
CF:>>>>>There is no Billy Boy Throckmorton. It's tha tavitch gang of dip
sticks.
> In article <199806250003...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> chuck...@aol.com says...
>
> >tavitch tha commie pinko SOB drools:
> >In my estimation it appears that Nizkor is once again being evasive. Why
> >didn't >you adress the "meat" of the post?
>
> >Jerry did ask:
>
> <<Chuck Ferree deleted *origianl but I restored it below>>
* get a spellchecker, turkey! It's *bacchanalia It means: well look it
up.CF:>>>>>Why for heaven's sakes. You like to read stuff about gay men? Are
you a gay person? Are you homophobic? Or are you just a tavitch puppet?
>
>
> >A very dumb question. Why don't you answer the man, tavitch? You know all
> >about people of the Jewish Faith. Not only that, you are self declared
> >expert on homosexuality. You really dig that stuff don'tcha, tavitch? It's
> >really none of your business, ya know.
>
> You are beginning to ACT UP aren't you Mr. Ferree? You don't wear pink
> panties to match your politics and sympathies do you?
CF:>>>>Hell no, I still have a bunch of WW-II style, OD GI shorts. They still
fit too. As for my politics, that is way over your head fella.
>
>
> I do wonder myself if those Gay Jews do have a thing for the unpeeled
> bananas if you get my drift.
CF:>>>>>>drift? That's right, you do drift. Like turd in a swamp. Whichever way
the wind blows, there goes ole what'shisname. The catfish will get the turd
though. They always do......if you get my drift.
deleted again
CF
Do your homework, turkey, you got a lot to learn.
The Doctors' Trial
Dateline: 05/29/98
The defendants in this case are charged
with murders, tortures, and other atrocities
committed in the name of medical
science. The victims of these crimes are
numbered in the hundreds of thousands.
A handful only are still alive; a few of the
survivors will appear in this
courtroom. But most of these miserable victims were
slaughtered outright or died in the
course of the tortures to which they were
subjected.
For the most part they are nameless
dead. To their murderers, these wretched
people were not individuals at all.
They came in wholesale lots and were treated
worse than animals. *
So the Doctors' Trial began. This was the
beginning of the opening statement for the prosecution,
delivered by Brigadier General Telford Taylor
on December 9, 1946, which introduced the world to
the horrific and needless experiments that
were conducted by Nazi doctors. On trial were 22 men
and one woman for their participation in
these experiments. Most were doctors, though three were
not. Some had been eminent physicians, a few
were products of their generation. How could such
people turn against humanity?
Though often known as the "Doctors' Trial"
and the "Medical Case," the trial was officially
designated United States of America v. Karl
Brandt. Held at the Palace of Justice in Nuremberg,
Germany, the trial began on December 9, 1946.
Four American judges presided - Walter Beals,
Johnson Crawford, Harold Sebring, and Victor
Swearingen. The trial described and documented
some of the most gruesome and painful medical
experiments, including those for typhus, sea water,
high-altitude, bone transplantation, extreme
cold, sterilization, poison bullets, and skeleton
collection.
After hearing 85 witnesses and examining
1,471 documents that were presented, judgment was
pronounced on August 19, 1947 with sentencing
following on the next day. Of the 23 defendants, 7
were sentenced the death by hanging (carried
out at Landsberg Prison), 9 were given prison terms,
and 7 were found not guilty.
Defendant
Sentence
End Result
Hermann Becker-Freyseng
Prison - 20
Years
Prison - 10 Years
Wilhelm Beiglböck
Prison - 15
Years
Prison- 10 Years
Kurt Blome
Not Guilty
Acquitted
Viktor Brack
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Karl Brandt
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Rudolf Brandt
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Fritz Fischer
Prison - Life
Prison - 15 Years
Karl Gebhardt
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Karl Genzken
Prison - Life
Prison - 20 Years
Siegfried Handloser
Prison - Life
Prison - 20 Years
Waldemar Hoven
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Joachim Mrugowsky
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Herta Oberheuser
Prison - 20
Years
Released April 1952
Adolf Pokorny
Not Guilty
Acquitted
Helmut Poppendick
Prison - 10
Years
Released January 31, 1951
Hans Wolfgang Romberg
Not Guilty
Acquitted
Gerhard Rose
Prison - Life
Prison - 15 Years
Paul Rostock
Not Guilty
Acquitted
Siegfried Ruff
Not Guilty
Konrad Schäfer
Not Guilty
Acquitted
Oskar Schröder
Prison - Life
Prison - 15 Years
Wolfram Sievers
Death -
Hanging
Executed June 2, 1948
Georg August Weltz
Not Guilty
* Opening statement of the prosecution by
Brigadier General Telford Taylor as quoted in George J.
Annas and Michael A. Grodin, The Nazi Doctors
and the Nuremberg Code (New York: Oxford
University Press, 1992) page 67.
>
>
>
> Billy Bob
>
> >CF
ChuckF2323
tavitch tha commie pinko SOB drools:
In my estimation it appears that Nizkor is once again being evasive. Why didn't
you adress the "meat" of the post?
Jerry did ask:
A very dumb question. Why don't you answer the man, tavitch? You know all about
people of the Jewish Faith. Not only that, you are self declared expert on
homosexuality. You really dig that stuff don'tcha, tavitch? It's really none
of your business, ya know.
CF
Chuck Ferree
Please visit: http://forgottencamps.by.net
Also: http://remember.org./ The Cybrary of the Holocaust
Cuddles
Note how quickly Chuck leaps in when he sees the words 'molest young
Billy Bob Throckmorton
>tavitch tha commie pinko SOB drools:
>In my estimation it appears that Nizkor is once again being evasive. Why
>didn't >you adress the "meat" of the post?
>Jerry did ask:
<<Chuck Ferree deleted origianl but I restored it below>>
>A very dumb question. Why don't you answer the man, tavitch? You know all
>about people of the Jewish Faith. Not only that, you are self declared
>expert on homosexuality. You really dig that stuff don'tcha, tavitch? It's
>really none of your business, ya know.
You are beginning to ACT UP aren't you Mr. Ferree? You don't wear pink
panties to match your politics and sympathies do you?
I do wonder myself if those Gay Jews do have a thing for the unpeeled
bananas if you get my drift.
Jerry (Jerome Goldberg) did say:
"Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
filth."
Perhaps the Jewish homos like the wrapper on their baloney! What
I'd like to know is how is it a Jew may take another man's penis into
his mouth and it not be a big deal but if he was to take a smoked pork
sausage into his mouth then he would be a real sinner for eating
"unclean" flesh! I guess this is where "kosher pickles" come into
play heh? :-)
Billy Bob
>CF
Electric Zen
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:23:19 +0100, Cuddles <Cud...@cableinet.co.uk>
wrote:
>ChuckF2323 wrote:
>> tavitch tha commie pinko SOB drools:
>> In my estimation it appears that Nizkor is once again being evasive. Why didn't
>> you adress the "meat" of the post?
>> Jerry did ask:
>> A very dumb question. Why don't you answer the man, tavitch? You know all about
>> people of the Jewish Faith. Not only that, you are self declared expert on
>> homosexuality. You really dig that stuff don'tcha, tavitch? It's really none
>> of your business, ya know.
>Note how quickly Chuck leaps in when he sees the words 'molest young
>Jewish boys' in the heading . . .
>Keep waving the handbag, Chuck!
Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
cloned from the same defective brain cell?
Kenneth McVay OBC
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
Daniel Swan
Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
: >Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
: >facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
: >cloned from the same defective brain cell?
Ah, Mr. McVay is back, cross-posting his patronizing, insulting,
and self-glorifying prose yet again to can.general.
I truly didn't think he'd have the nerve to return so soon,
especially after fleeing with all of that egg on his face.
Our memories are not so short, Ken.
Kenneth McVay OBC
In article <6mst31$c...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
Daniel Swan <ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote, without much thought:
>Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
>: >Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>: >facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>: >cloned from the same defective brain cell?
>Ah, Mr. McVay is back, cross-posting his patronizing, insulting,
>and self-glorifying prose yet again to can.general.
Ah, Mr. Swan is back, cross-posting his patronizing, insulting, and
absolutely incorrect attributions to can.general.
One tends to lose faith in Canadian students when one is faced with
signs of such sloppy intellect...
Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
Alas, he's far too busy trying to get that egg off his face to manage
a task which requires a modicum of intellectual ability.
Only in Calgary, eh? Pity.
[Posted and emailed, sans egg. Mr. Swan has enough already.]
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <359154B1...@rio.com>, chu...@rio.com says...
>
>From Chuck Ferree:
>
>Cuddles wrote: Note how quickly Chuck leaps in when he sees the words
>Jewish boys' in the heading . . .
>
>> Keep waving the handbag, Chuck!
>>
>CF:>>>Boy you are sure scratching at the bottom of the barrel. Why don't
>you deal with your posts and my posts? Running away like a Gerble being
>chased by a kitty kat.
We know what gay Jew (boys) do with Gerbils and a piece of PVC pipe too!
I'd bet that Mr. Ferree and Mr. Brown raise pet Gerbils!
Mr. Ferree why is it acceptable for Jewish males to take a penis into
their mouth but it is unkosher for them to take a piece of pork sausage
into their mouth? How can pork be unclean flesh and a penis not be? When
Jewish males take a penis from a Gentile into their mouth is this not
assimilation? No wonder Jewish females are atracted to Gentile males.
Remember one and all the center of this debate. This is the post that
Jerome "Jerry" Goldberg made from the Tampa, Florida area:
From: jer...@privacymail.com (Jerome Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young Jewish Boys?
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:27:50 GMT
Organization: Jerry's Antiques
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: jer...@privacymail.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: tam-fl5-20.ix.netcom.com
Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
filth.
Jerry
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<END>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I would say that Mr. Ferree and Nizkor do not have the strength and
convictions to deal with the matter so they are avoiding the situation.
Billy Bob
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>, kmc...@nizkor.org says...
>
>In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
So you all do approve of Jews performing homosexual acts! What
are your ideas about Jews performing oral sex on Gentiles with
uncircumcised penises? (We know that hetero Jews look down on
Jews having relations with Gentiles or do you make exceptions
for the perverted Jews among you?) Would this or would this not
be assimilation? If it is acceptable for a Jew to perform
homosexual acts on another Jew then why would it be unacceptable
for a gay Jew to go down on an Aryan? Are you showing
intolerance and racist bigotry now?
Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
>>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
You avoided the subject with great elan. It looks as if we have something
here. Nizkor is now actively avoiding a subject!
>That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
>functioning neuron between them, would it not?
>
>This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day.
Are you proud to be gay Ken? What sort of special talent does it take to
take another man's penis into your maouth but this is what you defend!
>There will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities.
I'd imagine you'll be on the lead float in your fairy wings and pink
ballerina tutu.
>Folks who would like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should
>attend. Last year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
>
>(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
>meaning of tolerance.)
Perhaps Mr. Phelps knows what both the Bible and Torah say about those
that engage in such filthy practices.
>A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>arts community has died of AIDS.
Which gives evidence that homos dominate the arts like they dominate
HOLLYWOOD. They aren't called "arteests" for nothing!
>_Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>sad reality.
>
>"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
>if he bit them in their nether regions.
So now back to the "meat" of Jerome Goldberg's original post which you
totally avoided:
Jerome Goldberg did post:
"Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
filth. Jerry."
Mr. McVay seeing how you addressed Pride as in Gay Pride and spoke of
tolerance for their lifestyle then why don't you respond to Goldberg?
I ask now how can it be acceptable for a male Jew (such as homosexual
U.S. House Rep. Barney Frank to take young Gentile penises into his
mouth) to take a penis into his mouth but it be unacceptable to eat a link
of pork sausage? Can you deal with this enigma? If the Torah condemns one
does it not condemn the other? Eating pork didn't bring the death peanlty
but homosexual acts did. Can you explain the current foul up aming these
silly Jews? We are all really dying to have you display your knowledge.
Billy Bob Throckmorton
>--
>The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
>Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
>Like the Blues? http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay/blues.html
I thought the word was BLOWS (as would be so in your case!)
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6mt5qu$jk9$1...@news.trends.ca>, kmc...@nizkor.org says...
>In article <6mst31$c...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
>Daniel Swan <ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote, without much thought:
<<SNIPPING>>
>[Posted and emailed, sans egg. Mr. Swan has enough already.]
Looks as if you enjoy sending unwelcome and unsolicited e-mail
Mr. McVay. Is this not a crime in Canada? If I were you Mr. Swan
I'd report this sycophant of the homosexual community.
Billy Bob
>--
>Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
>Like the Blows? http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay/blows.html
Steve Mock
Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
> So you all do approve of Jews performing homosexual acts! What
> are your ideas about Jews performing oral sex on Gentiles with
> uncircumcised penises? (We know that hetero Jews look down on
> Jews having relations with Gentiles or do you make exceptions
> for the perverted Jews among you?) Would this or would this not
> be assimilation? If it is acceptable for a Jew to perform
> homosexual acts on another Jew then why would it be unacceptable
> for a gay Jew to go down on an Aryan? Are you showing
> intolerance and racist bigotry now?
>
> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
ashamed of those feelings any longer.
Steve Mock
Daniel Swan
Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
: Ah, Mr. Swan is back, cross-posting his patronizing, insulting, and
: absolutely incorrect attributions to can.general.
: One tends to lose faith in Canadian students when one is faced with
: signs of such sloppy intellect...
How is my intellect sloppy? To the contrary, it is razor sharp.
Can you provide a dejanews citation for an article wherein I
penned the remark you so foolishly attribute to me?
: Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
: DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
: foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
Ahhh.. This is Ken's favorite tactic. Demanding proof, even when
he is well aware of the proof, as a delaying tactic.
Unfortunately for you, you did not embarrass youself in one single
message or remark, but in a string of them, a month an a half
ago, shortly before you ceased all participation in Can.general.
Coincidence?
For those interested in these squabbles, here is a URL which points to
the relevant series of messages. One should only have to read 10
or so to gain a better understanding of Ken and his disreputable
tactics.
When I have the time, I will excerpt the more relevant parts.
: Alas, he's far too busy trying to get that egg off his face to manage
: a task which requires a modicum of intellectual ability.
I thought the egg was on my posterier, or did your thoughts
'wander' when choosing a subject?
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, sm...@veritas.nizkor.org
says...
>
>Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
>
>> So you all do approve of Jews performing homosexual acts! What
>> are your ideas about Jews performing oral sex on Gentiles with
>> uncircumcised penises? (We know that hetero Jews look down on
>> Jews having relations with Gentiles or do you make exceptions
>> for the perverted Jews among you?) Would this or would this not
>> be assimilation? If it is acceptable for a Jew to perform
>> homosexual acts on another Jew then why would it be unacceptable
>> for a gay Jew to go down on an Aryan? Are you showing
>> intolerance and racist bigotry now?
>>
>> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
>> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
>Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically
>describing homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks
>someone is projecting his own hidden desires...
Going by your standards then all Nizorites have hidden desires to be Nazis.
You all surely like describing each and every detail of what they did!
What's wrong Mr. Mock you just can't answer for the hypocrisy of homosexual
Jewish activity?
Billy Bob
>Steve Mock
>
>
nev...@*anti-klik*freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
On 25 Jun 1998 12:25:43 GMT, bill...@anonymity.com (Billy Bob
Throckmorton) wrote:
>
>Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
>Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
>
Sounds like you've bobbed for a few Billys your self there Billy Bob.
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, Steve Mock
<sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote:
>Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
>> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
>
>Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
>homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
>his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
>ashamed of those feelings any longer.
As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
the best he could do was to repeat yet another long-discredited forgery.)
It's quite clear that the subject is an obsession with him.
I have no interest in speculating just why this is. I will, however, note
that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie himself has passed judgement on his own
actions:
"...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
always attacks the opposing person..."
-- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
-- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
-- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
"False accusations and personal insults shows how desperate you are."
-- From: Scott Bradbury
-- Subject: Ken Barnes Lies!
-- Date: 1997/06/09
-- Message-Id: <339CAD...@spam.not.net>
"The mentally deficient can only assault character because they are
devoid of ideas."
-- From: Scott Bradbury
-- Subject: One Jew and One Toadie Corrected
About Anti-Christs. (Classic Informative
Repost Contained Herein.)
-- Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:14:37 -0500
-- Message-ID: <33C026...@spam.not.net>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial2.industry.phoenix.net
"The hypocrisy shows! The hypocrisy shows!"
-- From: Scott Bradbury (phi...@phoenix.net)
-- Subject: Who Are The True Racists BUT Go
Unnoticed? Restored #1
-- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:47:32 -0500
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JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
kmc...@nizkor.org
In article <6mu1em$r...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan) wrote:
>
> Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
>
> : Ah, Mr. Swan is back, cross-posting his patronizing, insulting, and
> : absolutely incorrect attributions to can.general.
>
> : One tends to lose faith in Canadian students when one is faced with
> : signs of such sloppy intellect...
> How is my intellect sloppy? To the contrary, it is razor sharp.
> Can you provide a dejanews citation for an article wherein I
> penned the remark you so foolishly attribute to me?
Certainly, Mr. Swan... have someone read it to you:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/swan.daniel/1998/false-attribution
> : Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
> : DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
> : foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
>
> Ahhh.. This is Ken's favorite tactic. Demanding proof, even when
> he is well aware of the proof, as a delaying tactic.
The proof, Mr. Swan, will be found in the file cited above,
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/swan.daniel/1998/false-attribution
> Unfortunately for you, you did not embarrass youself in one single
> message or remark, but in a string of them, a month an a half
> ago, shortly before you ceased all participation in Can.general.
Unfortunately for you, you did embarrass yourself in one single message,
6mst31$c...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca, wherein you claimed that I wrote something
which I did not, in fact, write.
> Coincidence?
Coincidence? More like intellectual meltdown, I'd say.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
Daniel Swan
Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
: Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
: DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
: foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
The link below will pull up the all of the most recent replies
by myself to McVay's posts. I believe they clearly and concisely
highlight his myriad questionable antics in can.general.
Those with a greater interest can follow my replies back to
Ken's original posts, or can even read the threads in their
entirety, if a great understanding of context is desired.
Kenneth McVay OBC
In article <6mufv1$h...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
Daniel Swan <ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
>
>: Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
>: DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
>: foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
>
>The link below will pull up the all of the most recent replies
>by myself to McVay's posts. I believe they clearly and concisely
>highlight his myriad questionable antics in can.general.
>
>http://www.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?QRY=mcvay&ST=PS&DBS=1&defaultOp=AND&maxhits=25&format=terse&showsort=score&groups=can.general&authors=dswan*&subjects=&fromdate=&todate=
Alas for poor Mr. Swan, they don't show any article where I said what
he claims that I said in the article I replied to earlier this
morning. Perhaps Mr. Swan would like to give up the deflection
attempts and show us where I wrote what his article claimed that I
wrote?
I didn't think so.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
Tim Meehan
ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan) banged away at the keys in
can.general on 25 Jun 1998 17:29:58 GMT and came up with:
>Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
>: Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
>: DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
>: foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
>
>Ahhh.. This is Ken's favorite tactic. Demanding proof, even when
>he is well aware of the proof, as a delaying tactic.
(snipped}
*sigh* I don't even know why I'm following up to this.
All I can say is: put up or shut up. The URL you provided is merely an
author profile of postings. If you want to convince people, you're going to
have to provide a point-by-point refutation with cites.
Otherwise you're just being fucking annoying and repetitive, and in that
case, I would ask you to confine your posts to alt.jews.hate or whatever
newsgroup you're from.
-Tim
--
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"There should be a TV game show like 'Win, Lose, Or Draw' only with
ASCII art. And AOL users would compete against WebTV users. In the
bonus round they'd be given live hand grenades. And Bob Hope would
be the host." -- Kibo
Gord McFee
In <6mte77$8...@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, on 25 Jun 1998 12:01:43 GMT,
bill...@anonymity.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
> In article <359154B1...@rio.com>, chu...@rio.com says...
> >
> >From Chuck Ferree:
> >
> >Cuddles wrote: Note how quickly Chuck leaps in when he sees the words
> >'molest young
> >Jewish boys' in the heading . . .
> >
> >> Keep waving the handbag, Chuck!
> >>
> >> Cuddles
>
> >CF:>>>Boy you are sure scratching at the bottom of the barrel. Why don't
> >you deal with your posts and my posts? Running away like a Gerble being
> >chased by a kitty kat.
>
> We know what gay Jew (boys) do with Gerbils and a piece of PVC pipe too!
> I'd bet that Mr. Ferree and Mr. Brown raise pet Gerbils!
Err... no we don't Billy Bob. But you seem to. Have you and "Doc" been
"consulting" a lot lately?
--
Gord McFee
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http://www.holocaust-history.org
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Steve Johnson
In article <6mte77$8...@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, bill...@anonymity.com
>
>In article <359154B1...@rio.com>, chu...@rio.com says...
>>
>>From Chuck Ferree:
>>
>their mouth but it is unkosher for them to take a piece of pork sausage
>into their mouth?
The answer to that question is very simple. Pork will
give you gas (and possibly trichinosis). Conversely, the
penis won't customarily cause smelly shit.
>How can pork be unclean flesh and a penis not be?
You can wash a penis. You can even wash a pig's penis.
You cannot wash pork.
>When
>Jewish males take a penis from a Gentile into their mouth is this not
>assimilation?
Well that's an interesting notion I hadn't thought of; better yet,
it may be a justification, depending on circumstances..
>Remember one and all the center of this debate. This is the post that
>Jerome "Jerry" Goldberg made from the Tampa, Florida area:
Oh, very well, if we _must_..
>From: jer...@privacymail.com (Jerome Goldberg)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young Jewish Boys?
>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:27:50 GMT
>Organization: Jerry's Antiques
>Lines: 17
>Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
>Reply-To: jer...@privacymail.com
>NNTP-Posting-Host: tam-fl5-20.ix.netcom.com
>
>Dear Nizkor,
> I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
>population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
>when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
>true?
Why would you be surprised? Rape represents even
more "control" over someone than killing him.
>I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
>their relationships with non-Jewish boys.
Do you think it's that they "prefer," or is there just
a greater selection within the mainstream population?
>I now question as whether
>pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
>actions of my friends.
Aren't you "reaching" a bit logically? I don't see the
correlation you suggest.
>Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
>Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
You tell us. I'm not Jewish - how could I know the
answer?
>Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
>I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
>filth.
Maybe you need to dwell on it less. The alleged "wp"
crowd do need to be kept in check, but they're pretty
much harmless in the scheme of things.
> Jerry
word_man
Card-Carrying Fag
Daniel Swan
kmc...@nizkor.org wrote:
: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/swan.daniel/1998/false-attribution
You must be very eager to create an archive for me if such
pettiness is the best you can do [1].
If my intent had truly been to 'misattribute' text to you, I
would have edited the quoted text 'markers' at the beginning of
each line. To the contrary, I left them intact, leaving it
evident that the material was not yours, but material you yourself
had previously quoted.
This practice is not at all uncommon, and second-hand-quoting (or
greater) is instantly recognized by anyone familar with usenet,
even if the intervening author's names are removed in order to
save bandwidth.
Otherwise, a cascade would result, and except for the denizens of
alt.religion.kibology, no one likes a cascade. [2]
Misattribution may only be claimed by a severe pedant, or
by someone grasping at straws.
This will likely be my only comment on the matter.
I request that this message [3] be appended to nizkor URL
in question.
.............................................................................
"And if you want to Swan, one to one... kid, we don't need a pond."
-Prefab Sprout
.............................................................................
ICQ#: 14324013 Http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/1022
[1] It is a particularly pitiful effort when one considers
the fact that you are being paid to do this, and should have the time
to dig up something better.
[2] Some cascades can be a ball, however, I'm not sure if we
are ready to share that bonding experience yet, Ken.
[3] In it's entirety, of course.
Doc Tavish
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G.
Brown) wrote:
To see who the official poster boy
for NAMBLA is- open or click this link:
http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=246998327
<jgb...@earthlink.net>
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
>
>> So you all do approve of Jews performing homosexual acts! What
>> are your ideas about Jews performing oral sex on Gentiles with
>> uncircumcised penises? (We know that hetero Jews look down on
>> Jews having relations with Gentiles or do you make exceptions
>> for the perverted Jews among you?) Would this or would this not
>> be assimilation? If it is acceptable for a Jew to perform
>> homosexual acts on another Jew then why would it be unacceptable
>> for a gay Jew to go down on an Aryan? Are you showing
>> intolerance and racist bigotry now?
>>
>> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
>> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:27 +0000, Steve Mock <sm...@veritas.nizkor.org>
wrote:
>Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically
>describing homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone
>is projecting his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opportunity
>Tavish. No need to be ashamed of those feelings any longer.
Hey I am not like your boss! You won't see me nor any on my side ever
estolling the virtues of gay pride. When was the last time you have seen me
or any on my side speak of the greatness of a gay pride parade? It is you
penis puffers that defend these abhorations to the gene pool!
Here is your boss and one of his close pals being ORAL on gay pride!
Take it away Gay McVay:
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,tor.general
Subject: Dear Nizkor, We have another way to hate...
Date: 25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project - http://www.nizkor.org
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
X-Trace: news.trends.ca 898749543 17940 198.96.119.205
(25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: ab...@trends.ca
NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
>Steve Mock
Billy Bob Bests Swishy Nizkooks Again!
BTW I'd bet that Mr. Brown marches in Gay Pride parades or should I say that
he floats about?
Jeffrey G. Brown
To see who is unable to deal with his sexual obsessions in any way other
than citing known forgeries, just see Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie Bradbury's
last post.
Doc Tavish
In article <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>,
<jgb...@earthlink.net> says ORALLY...
>To see who is unable to deal with his sexual obsessions in any way other
>than citing known forgeries, just see Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie Bradbury's
>last post.
You mean the following Georg? Can you explain how it is your side
claims that people should be proud because they perform homosexual
sex? You don't see me nor any on my side glorifying what you leftists
brag about as pride! Look at McVay and Ken Lewis; they defend people
that should NOT be proud. BTW Georg, remember Jerome Goldberg's
original posting? He's in the Tampa, Florida area and that is only
minutes away from where you are! Perhaps you two could meat each other
somewhere and plan a knockout BLOW against all of your opposition!
As a review, here is Jerome Goldberg:
"Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer
having their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as
whether pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the
present actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in
when a Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current
situation and I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with
Nazi Aryan filth. Jerry [Jerome Goldberg]
Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: tam-fl5-20.ix.netcom.com"
................................................................
BTW Georg, I believe that ol' Goldberg and you could hit it off if you
play your cards right! If Jerry is bashful then ol' apologists for
gays McVay and Ken Lewis may agree to double date with you two
Romeos. You all do have many things in common you know!
Back to what Jeffrey is in angst about:
>Steve Mock
Maybe Steve Mock will chaperone you all!
Doc Tavish
>Jeffrey G. Brown jgb...@earthlink.net
Gord McFee
In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, Steve Mock
> <sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote:
>
> >Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
> >> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
> >
> >Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
> >homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
> >his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
> >ashamed of those feelings any longer.
>
> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
You would almost think he would let someone else bring it up first and
then jump in, so to speak. I am almost sure that Scotty is fixated on
pornography in general and homosexual activity in particular.
> the best he could do was to repeat yet another long-discredited forgery.)
> It's quite clear that the subject is an obsession with him.
Indeed.
I guess that makes old Scotty a bit of a hypocrite.
Gord McFee
In <6mukla$sv5$1...@news.trends.ca>, on 25 Jun 1998 22:57:45 GMT,
kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <6mufv1$h...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
> Daniel Swan <ds...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> >Kenneth McVay OBC (kmc...@nizkor.org) wrote:
> >
> >: Of course, if Mr. Swan would like to provide the Message-ID or
> >: DejaNews citation for an article wherein I penned the remark he so
> >: foolishly attributes to me, I might think more highly of him.
> >
> >The link below will pull up the all of the most recent replies
> >by myself to McVay's posts. I believe they clearly and concisely
> >highlight his myriad questionable antics in can.general.
Err, none of my beeswax, but that looks like a duck to me.
> >http://www.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?QRY=mcvay&ST=PS&DBS=1&defaultOp=AND&maxhits=25&format=terse&showsort=score&groups=can.general&authors=dswan*&subjects=&fromdate=&todate=
>
> Alas for poor Mr. Swan, they don't show any article where I said what
> he claims that I said in the article I replied to earlier this
> morning. Perhaps Mr. Swan would like to give up the deflection
> attempts and show us where I wrote what his article claimed that I
> wrote?
Aha! It *was* a duck. I guess Mr. Swan is an ugly "duckling". (God, I
enjoyed that.)
> I didn't think so.
You thunk correctly. :-)
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <35982dcb....@news3.ibm.net>, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee)
wrote:
>In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
>14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
>> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
>> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
>> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
>
>I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
I won't speculate on that. I merely observe that he does almost invariably
introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into any thread
in which he takes part.
JGB
Doc Tavish
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:07:02 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
>14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>
>> In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, Steve Mock
>> <sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
>>
>> > [...deletia...]
>>
>> >> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
>> >> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
>> >
>> >Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
>> >homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
>> >his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
>> >ashamed of those feelings any longer.
>>
>> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
>> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
>> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
>> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
>
>I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
>You would almost think he would let someone else bring it up first and
>then jump in, so to speak. I am almost sure that Scotty is fixated on
>pornography in general and homosexual activity in particular.
You all are wrong. The person that originally brought this up was the
Jew Jerome Goldberg who wrote (what you all keep deleting):
http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680
Subject: Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young
Jewish Boys?
From: jer...@privacymail.com (Jerome Goldberg)
Date: 1998/06/24
Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Dear Nizkor,
I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
true?
I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
filth.
Jerry
~~~END OF ARCHIVAL DEJANEWS POST #1~~~
So who brought up homosexulaity first Gord? A Jew named Jerome
Goldberg. Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
Subject: Dear Nizkor....
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/06/25
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
[Notice that the Nizkooks in their apologia for homosexual acts seek
to make homos into heroes! Notice also they totally deleted Goldberg's
original questions as well. 6/27/98 Tavish]
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
Also see Billy Bob Throckmorton's replies:
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366431783
and
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365951630
[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
~~~END OF ARCHIVAL DEJANEWS POST #2~~~
>I guess that makes old Scotty a bit of a hypocrite.
NO. The evidence plainly shows that I did not bring up the subject.
BTW how many times have you ever seen me or anyone that you all
asociate with me defending gays? It is your people that make heroes
out of them. I don't see one damn thing heroic in what they do!
BTW Gord are you PROUD?
Doc Tavish
>--
>Gord McFee
>I'll write no line before its time
>
>Visit the Holocaust History Project
>http://www.holocaust-history.org
>
>Visit the Nizkor site
>http://www.nizkor.org
To see who the official poster boy
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>In article <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>,
>doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com says...
> [...deletia...]
>>[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
>
>Doc shouldn't you have said:
>"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
>
> Billy Bob
Isn't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie cute when he's talking to himself like this?
Billy Bob Throckmorton
<<SNIPPING>>
>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680
>Subject: Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young
>Jewish Boys?
>From: jer...@privacymail.com (Jerome Goldberg)
>Date: 1998/06/24
>Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>
>Dear Nizkor,
> I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
>population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
>when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
>true?
>
>I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
>their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
>pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
>actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
>Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
>
>Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
>I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
>filth.
>
> Jerry
>
> ~~~END OF ARCHIVAL DEJANEWS POST #1~~~
<<SNIPPING>>
Doc shouldn't you have said:
"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
Billy Bob
>
Gord McFee
In <jeff_brown-27...@38.27.217.235>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
13:12:30 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> In article <35982dcb....@news3.ibm.net>, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee)
> wrote:
>
> >In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
> >14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
> >> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
> >> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
> >> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
> >
> >I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
>
> I won't speculate on that. I merely observe that he does almost invariably
> introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into any thread
> in which he takes part.
You are wise not to speculate. Especially since that requires one to
think carefully about something and thinking for more than a few seconds
about someone as revolting as Scottie is enough to make one's dinner
exit stage left.
FWIW, I think old Scotty had an identity problem.
Gord McFee
In <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
22:44:54 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
Hey, what's up Scott, I mean Doc?
> On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:07:02 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
> >In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
> >14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, Steve Mock
> >> <sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
> >>
> >> > [...deletia...]
> >>
> >> >> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
> >> >> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
> >> >
> >> >Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
> >> >homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
> >> >his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
> >> >ashamed of those feelings any longer.
> >>
> >> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
> >> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
> >> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
> >> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
> >
> >I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
> >You would almost think he would let someone else bring it up first and
> >then jump in, so to speak. I am almost sure that Scotty is fixated on
> >pornography in general and homosexual activity in particular.
>
> You all are wrong. The person that originally brought this up was the
> Jew Jerome Goldberg who wrote (what you all keep deleting):
An obviously forged troll, Scott-Doc.
> http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680
> Subject: Dear Nizkor Did Nazi Pig Dung Ernst Roehm Molest Young
> Jewish Boys?
> From: jer...@privacymail.com (Jerome Goldberg)
> Date: 1998/06/24
> Message-ID: <35915332....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>
> Dear Nizkor,
> I live in the Tampa, Florida area which has a large gay Jewish
> population. I am not gay but many of my friends are. I am perplexed
> when I hear that Nazi pig Ernst Roehm molested Jewish boys. Is this
> true?
>
> I ask this question because many of my Jewish friends prefer having
> their relationships with non-Jewish boys. I now question as whether
> pig Roehm really had to coerce all the Jewish boys by the present
> actions of my friends. Is this not assimilating and giving in when a
> Jew performs oral sex on an uncircumcised penis?
>
> Please no name calling. I am depressed with the current situation and
> I hate thinking our people are still being defiled with Nazi Aryan
> filth.
>
> Jerry
>
> ~~~END OF ARCHIVAL DEJANEWS POST #1~~~
>
> So who brought up homosexulaity first Gord?
Homosexulaity [sic]? Gosh, you are so excited, you can't even type
correctly.
A Jew named Jerome
> Goldberg. Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
> elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
That's Goy McVoy. Or Guy McVuy.
Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
kla...@hotmail.com
In article <6n15dk$s...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>,
bill...@anonymity.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
> Take it away Gay McVay:
where did mcvay say he was gay, phelps? don't you pigs ever read the stuff
you respond to, or are you simply too busy defaming jesus to think about how
stupid you look to the rest of the world?
> From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
.....
> This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
> will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
> like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
> year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(mcvay reminds people of pride day. he does not offer "support" for
homosexuality at all... he counsels tolerance)
(mcvay offers a factoid... is it correct? does anyone in the phelps clan
care?)
> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
> sad reality.
......
> BTW I'd bet that Mr. Brown marches in Gay Pride parades or should I say that
> he floats about?
(this may mean something to the phelps people... it means nothing to anyone
else)
so where are we? mcvay counsels tolerance, phelps counters with defamation of
jesus... as arsenio used to say, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Doc Tavish
>In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>>>[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
>>
>>Doc shouldn't you have said:
>>"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
>>
>> Billy Bob
>Isn't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie cute when he's talking to himself like this?
What is even "cuter" is seeing the leadership of Nizkor making
apologia for homosexual acts. I ask again what makes homosexuals into
heroes in eyes of liberals? What is so noble or courageous about their
lifestyle that people such as McVay and others speak of "pride?"
Here again is "Gay" McVay:
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
Subject: Dear Nizkor....
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/06/25
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
{Homophobia is the term used by apologist for perversion to deride
those that point out what gays really do and what their lifestyle does
to society in the way it negatively impacts it! 6/28/98 Tavish}
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here is Nizkor's leading man McVay making apologia for the typhoid
Mary's of the 90's. "Gay" McVay said:
" During the past ten years, one half of Canada's arts community has
died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of all sorts. Such a
loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon our cultural life,
and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very sad reality."
It is their abhorent lifestyle that is making them die! If they
stopped doing the disgusting things they do then they won't spread the
disease! As it is they are petri dishes of contagion.
Jeffrey, afterall, why should we feel sorry for these people? When are
they going to take responsibilty for their lives? Haven't they heard
of personal responsibility? Afterall Jeffrey you are the one that has
espoused personal responsibilty lately:
http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366037434
BTW Jeffrey here is another admission of yours:
http://x13.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366595963
"Re: Eliis Fumbles (was: HateWatch Lies)"
In article <6n2pc4$ksp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, pro...@innocent.com
wrote:
>Jeff's words really carry alot of weight seeing how he is a self-admitted
>pedophile. Here's an example:
>
>
>
>
>Harry, I love to nibble young boys pee pees also.
>
>
>JGB
[...]
>This pervert should be locked up and shot if he gets within 100 feet of
>children.
On the basis of what? A known forgery? Educate yourself, Ellis -- I'm
sure it will be a novel experience:
Two posts appeared on 6 June and 8 June 1997 purporting to be
admissions of child molestation by myself.
[...]
I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for posting
the original forgeries. My own belief is that an individual using the
ID "Jim Dyer" created and posted the forgeries. Whether this is
Bradbury under another ID, or merely a friend of his, cannot be
determined.....
~~~~ END ~~~~
Ol' Georg says in one I'm a forger and in the next he doesn't know!
Doc Tavish
Don't feel too bad Georg, you have quite a record of making apologia
for homosexual acts!
I.E.
http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=338399485
>JGB
>
>===================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
To see who the official poster boy
Doc Tavish
On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:46:17 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>In <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
>22:44:54 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
[...]
His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
Ernst Zundel for instance.
Tavish
>
>--
>Gord McFee
>I'll write no line before its time
>
>Visit the Holocaust History Project
>http://www.holocaust-history.org
>
>Visit the Nizkor site
>http://www.nizkor.org
To see who the official poster boy
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <3596b4ee...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:42:44 -0400, jgb...@earthlink.net (Jeffrey G.
>Brown) wrote:
>
>>In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>
>>>>[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>>>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
>>>
>>>Doc shouldn't you have said:
>>>"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
>>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
>>>
>>> Billy Bob
>
>>Isn't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie cute when he's talking to himself like this?
>
>What is even "cuter" is seeing the leadership of Nizkor making
>apologia for homosexual acts.
And what's absolutely hilarious, is watching Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie spin
out another lie and expecting anyone -- even his precious if insubstantial
'lurkers' -- to believe him.
Mr. McVay didn't apologize for anyone's homosexual acts. He didn't even
mention said acts. The Gutless One is lying -- again.
> [...deletia...]
>Here is Nizkor's leading man McVay making apologia for the typhoid
>Mary's of the 90's. "Gay" McVay said:
>" During the past ten years, one half of Canada's arts community has
>died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of all sorts. Such a
>loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon our cultural life,
>and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very sad reality."
Mr. McVay didn't apologize for anyone's homosexual acts. He didn't even
mention said acts. The Gutless One is lying -- again.
> [...deletia...]
>Haven't they heard of personal responsibility?
I'm amazed to find that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie can spell
'responsibility'. I didn't think it was part of his vocabulary.
> Afterall Jeffrey you are the one that has
>espoused personal responsibilty lately:
>http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366037434
Yup. I pointed out in that message that "Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie doesn't
understand the concept of personal responsibility". So far, The Gutless
One has done nothing that would cause that evaluation to change.
>BTW Jeffrey here is another admission of yours:
>
>http://x13.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366595963
>"Re: Eliis Fumbles (was: HateWatch Lies)"
> [...deletia...]
> I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for posting
> the original forgeries. My own belief is that an individual using the
> ID "Jim Dyer" created and posted the forgeries. Whether this is
> Bradbury under another ID, or merely a friend of his, cannot be
> determined.....
>
> ~~~~ END ~~~~
>
>Ol' Georg says in one I'm a forger and in the next he doesn't know!
The Gutless One is lying, of course. I have never cited him as the author
of the 'Strom Lies' forgery. I have, however, said:
I do await, with great interest, Bradbury's explanation of just how
his continued use of known forgeries can be reconciled with his
posturing as a "truth teller". The answer to that question should
prove most amusing -- should Bradbury ever find the courage to address
it.
To the surprise of absolutely no one, Scott Bradbury has _never_ explained
why his actions are so at variance with his expressed philosophy of 'truth
telling'.
> [...deletia...]
>Don't feel too bad Georg, you have quite a record of making apologia
>for homosexual acts!
>
>I.E.
>
>http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=338399485
Another clumsy lie from Scott Bradbury. He's citing one of his own
messages here, not mine -- so obviously, I could not have made an
'apologia' for anything in a message I did not author. The only text of
mine that The Gutless One quotes in this message is my explanation of the
source of the 'Strom Lies' forgeries; no mention of 'homosexual acts' is
made in the material of mine that Scottie quotes. In fact, the only
references to homosexual acts in this post (other than the forgeries) are
those that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie makes himself!
Do keep accusing people of saying things they didn't say, Scottie. No one
can do as thorough a job of reducing your credibility to zero as you do,
every single day.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
>On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:46:17 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
>>In <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
>>22:44:54 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>> Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
>>> elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
> [...deletia...]
>>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>>> sad reality.
>>>
>>> "Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
>>> if he bit them in their nether regions.
>
>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
>>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
>
>His tolerance of this group is defending what they do!
Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
he be defending it?
>If Gay McVay
>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>Ernst Zundel for instance.
When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
have the right of free speech?
Gord McFee
In <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sun, 28 Jun 1998
21:57:47 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:46:17 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
> >In <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
> >22:44:54 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
>
> [...]
Deleted my good line. Nasty boy, Scot-Doc.
> His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
> believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
> to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
> Ernst Zundel for instance.
No, his tolerance of the group is defending their basic civil rights.
kla...@hotmail.com
In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>,
someone barely worth noting said:
> Doc shouldn't you have said:
> "[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
> honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
how silly you must feel, realizing that mcvay did indeed answer "jerome's"
question... as dejanews will show anyone with enough working braincells to
look it up.. the only remaining question would seem to be why you hope to
convince people he did not? is that really your best shot, phelps? can't you
at least *try* to sound plausible, like maybe once?
you guys are entertaining, i'll give you that... but i don't think you should
feel all that good about it... we're laughing at you, not with you.
kla...@hotmail.com
In article <3594cf81....@news.tavish-central.net>,
doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com wrote:
> You mean the following Georg? Can you explain how it is your side
> claims that people should be proud because they perform homosexual
> sex? You don't see me nor any on my side glorifying what you leftists
> brag about as pride! Look at McVay and Ken Lewis; they defend people
> that should NOT be proud. BTW Georg, remember Jerome Goldberg's
> original posting? He's in the Tampa, Florida area and that is only
> minutes away from where you are! Perhaps you two could meat each other
> somewhere and plan a knockout BLOW against all of your opposition!
is it just me, or do these phelps people tend to fixate on sexual organs and
practices? has anyone else noticed how this sort of thing keeps coming back,
again and again, in tavishtrash?
mcvay counsels tolerance, tavishtrash counsels sexual innuenda and defamation
of jesus... interesting, yes?
kla...@hotmail.com
In article <3596b4ee...@news.tavish-central.net>,
> What is even "cuter" is seeing the leadership of Nizkor making
> apologia for homosexual acts. I ask again what makes homosexuals into
> heroes in eyes of liberals? What is so noble or courageous about their
> lifestyle that people such as McVay and others speak of "pride?"
how long have you tavishtrash been fixated on homosexuality? did it come
before or after you decided to reject christianity and preach intolerence?
Doc Tavish
On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:24:03 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>In <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sun, 28 Jun 1998
>> His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
>> believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>> to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>> Ernst Zundel for instance.
>No, his tolerance of the group is defending their basic civil rights.
Since when is homosexual sex a civil right? After all McVay did use
the term homophobe; so he is undoubtedly referring to homosexuals!
Doc Tavish
>--
>Gord McFee
>I'll write no line before its time
>
>Visit the Holocaust History Project
>http://www.holocaust-history.org
>
>Visit the Nizkor site
>http://www.nizkor.org
----
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:24:54 -0400, jgb...@earthlink.net,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>In article <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
>a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
>wrote:
>> Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
>> elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
>> http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
>>The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
>>Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
BTW what is Gay McVay referring to as the nether regions Georg? Care
to inform us?
Gort McFee commented:
>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
>>>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then? How about
"pride" and AIDS- what do they relate to? A group of Cub Scouts or a
homosexual community that is 50% devastated by their choice of
lifestyle?
>>His tolerance of this group is defending what they do!
>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>he be defending it?
How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?" You
don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out o' apologist
for the Gay Pride crowd!
Again what Gay McVay said:
>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>> sad reality.
Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
I don't believe these "arteests" got AIDS from blood transfusions or
IV drug use do you? They got it from doing things that "homophobes"
find disgusting and threatening to public health!
>>If Gay McVay
>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>have the right of free speech?
His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. You just
don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
Wise up Brown Nose and show some intelligence for a change!
BTW Georg have you ever noticed how you always defend things that are
gay? You really admire them don't you?
Doc Tavish
>JGB
>
>===================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
----
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <35980a22....@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you
to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:24:54 -0400, jgb...@earthlink.net,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>>he be defending it?
>
>How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?" You
>don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out o' apologist
>for the Gay Pride crowd!
Nor does one have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Poor Ol'
Gutless Scottie is frantically tap-dancing to distract us from the utter
lack of evidence for his position -- again.
Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
questions...
>Again what Gay McVay said:
>>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>>> sad reality.
>
>Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
>I don't believe these "arteests" got AIDS from blood transfusions or
>IV drug use do you? They got it from doing things that "homophobes"
>find disgusting and threatening to public health!
And we're _still_ waiting for Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie to show us where
Ken McVay 'defended' homosexual sex...
>>>If Gay McVay
>>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>
>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>have the right of free speech?
>
>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. You just
>don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
Really? When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O
Gutless One?
Oh, and by the way... When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that
Ernst Zundel should not have the right of free speech? We're _still_
waiting for an answer to that one, too...
>Wise up Brown Nose and show some intelligence for a change!
Turn down your Reality Distortion Field[TM], Scottie, and show us some
evidence that you know what you're talking about for a change.
>BTW Georg have you ever noticed how you always defend things that are
>gay?
Really? Where in this thread did I do that?
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <359809a6....@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you
>On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:24:03 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
>>In <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sun, 28 Jun 1998
>>21:57:47 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
> [...deletia...]
>>> His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
>>> believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>> to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>> Ernst Zundel for instance.
>
>>No, his tolerance of the group is defending their basic civil rights.
>
>Since when is homosexual sex a civil right?
Since when did Mr. McVay refer to homosexual sex in this thread? We're
_still_ waiting for an answer to that one, O Gutless One...
kla...@hotmail.com
In article <359809a6....@news.tavish-central.net>, yet another charlatan
posing as a tavish wrote:
> Since when is homosexual sex a civil right? After all McVay did use
> the term homophobe; so he is undoubtedly referring to homosexuals!
since when is homosexuality not a civil right?
(and why is the phelps clan so hung up on homosexuality? you people have some
sort of group jerk talking about it all the time?)
Billy Bob Throckmorton
>In article <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
>a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com,
phi...@phoenix.net)
>wrote:
>> Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
>> elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
>> http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
>>The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
>>Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
BTW what is Gay McVay referring to as the nether regions Georg? Care
to inform us?
I am still waiting Mr. Brown. What is the nether region?
Gort McFee commented:
>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
>>>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then? How about
"pride" and AIDS- what do they relate to? A group of Cub Scouts or a
homosexual community that is 50% devastated by their choice of
lifestyle?
>>His tolerance of this group is defending what they do!
>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>he be defending it?
How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?" You
don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out o' apologist
for the Gay Pride crowd! How was the AIDS among the "arteests" spread
Mr. Brown?
Again what Gay McVay said:
>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>> sad reality.
Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
I don't believe these "arteests" got AIDS from blood transfusions or
IV drug use do you? They got it from doing things that "homophobes"
find disgusting and threatening to public health!
>>If Gay McVay
>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>have the right of free speech?
His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. You just
don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
Wise up Brown Nose and show some intelligence for a change!
BTW Georg have you ever noticed how you always defend things that are
gay? You really admire them don't you?
Mr. Brown has always stepped up to the plate in defense of gays and their
agenda!
Doc Tavish
>JGB
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6n7g9m$66h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, kla...@hotmail.com says...
>> claims that people should be proud because they perform homosexual
>> sex? You don't see me nor any on my side glorifying what you leftists
>> brag about as pride! Look at McVay and Ken Lewis; they defend people
>> that should NOT be proud. BTW Georg, remember Jerome Goldberg's
>> original posting? He's in the Tampa, Florida area and that is only
>> minutes away from where you are! Perhaps you two could meat each other
>> somewhere and plan a knockout BLOW against all of your opposition!
>is it just me, or do these phelps people tend to fixate on sexual organs
>and practices? has anyone else noticed how this sort of thing keeps coming
>back,again and again, in tavishtrash?
You're the trash and the spot on society.
>mcvay counsels tolerance, tavishtrash counsels sexual innuenda and
>defamation of jesus... interesting, yes?
You fags always hide behind Jesus.
AIDS will silence you joy boy!
>
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Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <jeff_brown-29...@38.27.216.102>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>In article <359809a6....@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you
>to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:24:03 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>>
>>>In <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sun, 28 Jun 1998
>
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>>> His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
>>>> believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>>> to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>>> Ernst Zundel for instance.
>>
>>
>
>_still_ waiting for an answer to that one, O Gutless One...
What was McVay referring to and the "pride" they have and used homophobe in
his reply. What is the definition of a homophobe? It is generally used
derisively of those that oppose homosexuals, their lifestyle and their
political agenda. Gay McVay shows his alliance to their cause with this post
(that you keep deleting):
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
Subject: Dear Nizkor....
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/06/25
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
{Homophobia is the term used by apologist for perversion to deride
those that point out what gays really do and what their lifestyle does
to society in the way it negatively impacts it! 6/28/98 Tavish}
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now I ask you o apologist for all things Gay. What group is McVay asking
that tolerance be shown toward- the anti-homosexual Phelps of the gay
"pride" people who are having a 50% mortality rate? Why does McVay and his
pal use such words as "homophobia" and "homophobe" if they aren't
referencing things that are homo? What do homos do? By having sympathy for
this crowd of perverts McVay condones what they do PERIOD.
Billy Bob
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
--
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6n4llk$84m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, "Penis Breath"
kla...@hotmail.com says...
>In article <6n15dk$s...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>,
> bill...@anonymity.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
AIDS will silence you joy boy. It's a disease that makes you die a long
debilating death. If the government wants to harass people that smoke and
tax them then you fags need to be taxed too so you can pay your fair share
for the expenses your filthy lifestyle puts the normal citizen to.
I thoroughly believe that AIDS could be cured in this country if our gov't
were to strictly enforce the existing sodomy laws! Smoking isn't an illegal
activity but your lifestyle still is in many areas!
I like what Moses quoted G-d as saying and commanding:
Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
20 : 13 "If a man has intercourse with another man in the same
manner as with a woman, both of them have committed a
disgusting perversion. They shall be put to death by stoning."
Now I ask, was Moses a homophobe or was G-d homophobic for making this
command. I now ask all the apologists. Come on Nizkor, Gay McVay; are you
all going to deny that the Torah makes this statement? What did G-d say
about disobedience?
The Torah I have access to says:
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
18 : 24 "Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It
was as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away
before you became defiled."
The same Torah also says:
Chumash References
Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
Lord.
20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
making you holy.
20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
stoned to death.
20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
shall be put to death.
20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father's wife, he has
committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
shall be put to death by stoning.
20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death.
20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
They shall be put to death by stoning.
[ ... ]
20 : 23 Do not follow the customs of the nation that I am driving out
before you, since they did all the above mentioned [perversions] and I
was disgusted with them.
20 : 24 I therefore said to you, "Take over their land. I will give it
to you so that you can inherit it - a land flowing with milk and
honey. I am God your Lord who has separated you out from among all the
nations.
Notes:
20 : 2 pelt him to death... After trial by a duly ordained Sanhedrin.
Since there is no such ordination today, death penalties are not
imposed.
20 : 9 he shall be stoned... (Sanhedrin 66a; Rashi; from 20:27).
Expressed idiomatically by, "his blood is in him." This indicates that
he shall be killed by a method that induces internal bleeding, and
this is stoning. See Exodus 21:17.
20 : 11 If a man... The Torah now gives the penalties for the sexual
offenses outlined in Leviticus 18:6-23.
20 : 12 utterly detestable perversion Tevel. See Leviticus 18:23.
20 : 12 stoned to death See Leviticus 20:9.
20 : 13 by stoning See Leviticus 20:9.
20 : 23 Do not follow the customs This is a specific commandment not
to follow gentile customs (Sefer HaMitzvoth, Negative 30). See
Leviticus 18:3.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now the Sodomites are now declaring open rebellion against G-d's decree!
Instead of stones the virus will get you! Is G-d a homophobe?
Once again here is Nizkor's own Gay McVay asking for tolerance in denial of
the Torah:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Billy Bob
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6n7g9m$66h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, kla...@hotmail.com says...
>
>In article <3594cf81....@news.tavish-central.net>,
> doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com wrote:
>
>> You mean the following Georg? Can you explain how it is your side
>> claims that people should be proud because they perform homosexual
>> sex? You don't see me nor any on my side glorifying what you leftists
>> brag about as pride! Look at McVay and Ken Lewis; they defend people
>> that should NOT be proud. BTW Georg, remember Jerome Goldberg's
>> original posting? He's in the Tampa, Florida area and that is only
>> minutes away from where you are! Perhaps you two could meat each other
>> somewhere and plan a knockout BLOW against all of your opposition!
>is it just me, or do these phelps people tend to fixate on sexual organs
>and practices? has anyone else noticed how this sort of thing keeps coming
>back,again and again, in tavishtrash?
>
>mcvay counsels tolerance, tavishtrash counsels sexual innuenda and
>defamation of jesus... interesting, yes?
.............................................
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
[ ... ]
Notes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Billy Bob
--
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6n7gfh$69s$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, "Penis Gobbler"
kla...@hotmail.com says...
>In article <3596b4ee...@news.tavish-central.net>,
>
>> What is even "cuter" is seeing the leadership of Nizkor making
>> apologia for homosexual acts. I ask again what makes homosexuals into
>> heroes in eyes of liberals? What is so noble or courageous about their
>> lifestyle that people such as McVay and others speak of "pride?"
>how long have you tavishtrash been fixated on homosexuality? did it come
>before or after you decided to reject christianity and preach intolerence?
Hey Penis Puffer, show me anywhere in the Bible or Torah that shows your
lifestyle is to be tolerated!
The Torah commands that your kind be stoned to death!
Don't believe me? Look:
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18
18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
is a disgusting perversion.
18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion.
18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
became defiled.
18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants.
18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
involved in any of these disgusting perversions - neither the native
born nor any foreigner who settles among you.
18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
disgusting perversions and defiled the land.
18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you.
[ ... ]
NOTICE that G-d did, in fact, command if you accept the Torah:
20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
They shall be put to death by stoning.
Now I ask o' brazen Sodomite and Son of Belial is G-d intolerant and a
homophobe as well? You did use your mouth for something other than perverted
sex when you dribbled:
">how long have you tavishtrash been fixated on homosexuality? did it come
>before or after you decided to reject christianity and preach intolerence?"
In G-d's eyes you are the trash that defiles and makes the land unclean.
AIDS will most likely shut you up and it will be no loss I promise!
BTW here is Nizkor's leadership going counter to the LAW:
(Aren't Jews supposed to be obedient to the LAW?)
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,tor.general
Subject: Dear Nizkor, We have another way to hate...
Date: 25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project - http://www.nizkor.org
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
X-Trace: news.trends.ca 898749543 17940 198.96.119.205
(25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: ab...@trends.ca
NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jun 1998 04:39:03 GMT
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ol' anti-homophobe McVay says forget Torah; tolerate this lifestyle!
Hey Gay McVay; is G-d a homophobe too?
1Fre...@my-dejanews.com
In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>,
bill...@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
> Hey Penis Puffer, show me anywhere in the Bible or Torah that shows your
> lifestyle is to be tolerated!
>
> The Torah commands that your kind be stoned to death!
>
Would ya lookee here...
A Nazi... that...
(big intake of breath)
hates Homosexuals as well as Jews.
WOW
That's a switch.
MW
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <6nclik$v8h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, 1Fre...@my-dejanews.com
says...
>
>In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>,
> bill...@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
>
>> lifestyle is to be tolerated!
>>
>> The Torah commands that your kind be stoned to death!
>>
>Would ya lookee here...
>A Nazi... that...
>(big intake of breath)
After pulling that big one from your deep throat vagina mouth you're
short of breath aren't you?
>hates Homosexuals as well as Jews.
They are two overlapping categories! Why should this
be a surprise to you? The whole homosexual movement
got started in the 60s deep in the crotch of Jew York City!
How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
lifestyle? See what I mean!?
I propose national legislation that would make cremation
the only means of disposal of an AIDS infected corpse. No
embalming nor draining of blood into the domestic sewer
system. Right into the oven they go!
BTW have you ever heard a well tuned crematoria? The burner
system designed by J.A. Topf & Sonne of Erfurt Germany is a
masterpiece. Upon initial ignition you may hear a rumbling
much like an ME-109 idling but as you adjust the air mixture
the flame turns from yellow to blue and then when the mixture
is just right you hear a ghostly howl. You hear a steady
woooooooooooh sound. Modern means of sanitation and garbage
disposal that is environmentally friendly too! Stops contagion
dead on the spot.
Billy Bob
>WOW
>
>That's a switch.
I'd bet that you're a switch hitter in the public bathrooms on Saturday
night. How many penises do you suck in a given evening? You think nothing of
being a disease carrier do you? I liken your kind to the rats that carried
the plague. Mosaic Law thoughtfully provided for keeping the land clean of
defilement too!
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
18 : 24 "Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It
was as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away
before you became defiled."
The same Torah also says:
[ ... ]
20 : 24 I therefore said to you, "Take over their land. I will give it
to you so that you can inherit it - a land flowing with milk and
honey. I am God your Lord who has separated you out from among all the
nations.
Notes:
20 : 2 pelt him to death... After trial by a duly ordained Sanhedrin.
Since there is no such ordination today, death penalties are not
imposed.
20 : 9 he shall be stoned... (Sanhedrin 66a; Rashi; from 20:27).
Expressed idiomatically by, "his blood is in him." This indicates that
he shall be killed by a method that induces internal bleeding, and
this is stoning. See Exodus 21:17.
20 : 11 If a man... The Torah now gives the penalties for the sexual
offenses outlined in Leviticus 18:6-23.
20 : 12 utterly detestable perversion Tevel. See Leviticus 18:23.
20 : 12 stoned to death See Leviticus 20:9.
20 : 13 by stoning See Leviticus 20:9.
20 : 23 Do not follow the customs This is a specific commandment not
to follow gentile customs (Sefer HaMitzvoth, Negative 30). See
Leviticus 18:3.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>MW
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6nbkoj$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>Gort McFee commented:
>>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
>>>>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
>
>What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then?
It makes reference to a person who fears homosexuals -- you, for instance.
Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
questions...
> [...deletia...]
>>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>>he be defending it?
>
>How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?"
Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
> [...deletia...]
>Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
> [...deletia...]
>>>If Gay McVay
>>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>
>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>have the right of free speech?
>
>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
have the right of free speech?
>You just
>don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
Note that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie is repeating his non-answer.
When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O Gutless One?
JGB
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6nbl7s$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>In article <jeff_brown-29...@38.27.216.102>,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
> [...deletia...]
>>Since when did Mr. McVay refer to homosexual sex in this thread? We're
>>_still_ waiting for an answer to that one, O Gutless One...
>
>What was McVay referring to and the "pride" they have and used homophobe in
>his reply. What is the definition of a homophobe? It is generally used
>derisively of those that oppose homosexuals, their lifestyle and their
>political agenda.
I'll accept that definition. Now take off your tap shoes, Scottie, and
explain to us exactly where in this thread Mr. McVay referred to
homosexual sex.
> [...deletia...]
>Now I ask you o apologist for all things Gay.
Oh, and we're still waiting for you to back up that assertion with
evidence, too, Scottie. You see, you're a known liar, and your word alone
is worthless. You did know that, didn't you?
>What group is McVay asking
>that tolerance be shown toward- the anti-homosexual Phelps of the gay
>"pride" people who are having a 50% mortality rate? Why does McVay and his
>pal use such words as "homophobia" and "homophobe" if they aren't
>referencing things that are homo?
The real question is: why can't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie simply show us
where in this thread Ken McVay referred to homosexual sex? He can't -- and
that's why he has to do all this tap-dancing to back up his claim that Mr.
McVay is an 'apologist' for homosexual sex, despite that fact that Scottie
himself is the one who first raised the subject.
But then, Scottie is almost _always_ the one who brings up the topic of
homosexual sex. Kinda makes you wonder, don't it?
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>Ol' anti-homophobe McVay says forget Torah; tolerate this lifestyle!
Interesting... Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie claims that Ken McVay said to
forget the Torah. But of course, Mr. McVay has said no such thing. I guess
Scottie is still a liar, isn't he?
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6nd9c0$r...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>After pulling that big one from your deep throat vagina mouth you're
>short of breath aren't you?
"Where is your honour and chivalry for castigating a man
on a personal level and not making a personal and public
apology?"
-- From: Scott Bradbury
-- Subject: Klaus Refuses to Apologize for
Denigrating Herr Hoffman Under
the Eyes of His Soverign Lord.
-- Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 17:52:28 -0500
-- Message-ID: <33C2C4...@spam.not.net>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial3.industry.phoenix.net
> [...deletia...]
>I'd bet that you're a switch hitter in the public bathrooms on Saturday
>night.
"...I can only discount it on account of the personal slur made."
-- From: Scott Bradbury
-- Subject: Re: #2 Religious Bigotry Unmasked
in the name of Eric Hoffer
-- Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 18:49:09 -0500
-- Message-ID: <3373B7...@spam-not.net>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial7.bellville.phoenix.net
>How many penises do you suck in a given evening?
"Such childish slander from an infantile mind. Can't deal with the fact
so you name call."
-- From: Scott Bradbury
-- Subject: Re: Tavish Whines "Pay Attention To Me!"
-- Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 18:22:57 -0500
-- Message-ID: <3399ED...@spam.not.net>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial1.industry.phoenix.net
>You think nothing of being a disease carrier do you?
"Still only limited to personal attacks aren't you?"
-- From: Scott Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
-- Subject: DCKOM a Judge of People? He Quotes a Jewish
Assassin in His Sig Line! What Does This Tell You All?
-- Message-ID: <3547dfe2....@news.tavish-central.net>
-- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:28:21 GMT
>I liken your kind to the rats that carried the plague.
"...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
always attacks the opposing person..."
-- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
-- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
-- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
"The hypocrisy shows! The hypocrisy shows!"
-- From: Scott Bradbury (phi...@phoenix.net)
-- Subject: Who Are The True Racists BUT Go
Unnoticed? Restored #1
-- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:47:32 -0500
-- Message-ID: <343173...@spamfree.juno.com>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial52.phoenix.net
JGB
=====================================================================
Chuck Ferree
From Chuck Ferree:
Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
CF:>>>AKA the tavitch commie pinko SOB gang.
These turkeys (tavitch et al) are stuck in a homophobic time warp. The issue of
homosexuality has been dealt with by society in a variety of ways. Just as with
all sexual matters, other than criminal acts, such as incest, abuse of minors,
rape etc. people's sexual activities are none of their business. Modern
medicine, and much better minds than tavitch....throckmorton, and all the rest
of these foul mouthed turkeys have determined that sexual preference is not a
choice. That doesn't mean it's my bag, it isn't, but as long as this is a
private matter between consenting adults, the only idiots who care about
discussion of other people's sex lives are homophobics, and mindless bigots.
The use of explicit and exaggerated descriptions as used by rednecks like billy
bob, are ugly, and designed to be as offensive as possible. Such language
serves only to display a filthy, and putrid mind.
clips
> BTW have you ever heard a well tuned crematoria?
CF:>>>>Neither one of us have.
> The burner
> system designed by J.A. Topf & Sonne of Erfurt Germany is a
> masterpiece. Upon initial ignition you may hear a rumbling
> much like an ME-109 idling
CF:>>>>How many times and exactly where has this dipstick ever heard the sounds
from an ME-109 idling? Or for that matter the burner from an J.A. Topf & Sonne
of Erfurt, Germany "masterpiece?" Never, therefore it's lies being told here.
clips
> Billy Bob
clips
> --
> Billy Bob Throckmorton the Urban Cowboy
> hails you all from Pasadena, Texas USA!
CF:>>>>along with tavitch, tha commie pinko SOB
Chuck Ferree
"I wish people who have trouble communicating would just shut up."
Tom Lehrer
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.217.200>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>In article <6nbkoj$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>>Gort McFee commented:
>>>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He
>>>>>seems to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a
>>>>>knot?
>>What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then?
>It makes reference to a person who fears homosexuals -- you, for instance.
>
>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
>can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
>questions...
He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to defend it. I never
said that he mentioned homosexual sex. This is your ruse to divert attention
that Gay McVay urges tolerance toward a "community" that engages in such
practices. If you want tolerance for a group of people that practice such
then you would also tolerate their acts would you not? If it weren't for
their practices then the subject of tolerance wouldn't be an issue would it?
What is so hard about this concept?
It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; they avoid
saying they are pro-abortion but they approve of the practice. You liberals
are the ones that like to play tricks with meanings of words. I have no
doubt in my mind that you, McVay and the rest of your ilk approve of the
homosexual community and their activity! Care to deny this now?
>> [...deletia...]
Quit deleting the original text if you wish to make argument.
Here is McVay unedited:
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
Subject: Dear Nizkor....
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/06/25
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
[Notice that the Nizkooks in their apologia for homosexual acts seek
to make homos into heroes! Notice also they totally deleted Goldberg's
original questions as well.
Here is the link to Goldberg's post that all these homo-apologist
seek to avoid: http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680
7/1/98 Tavish]
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
----------END----------
>>>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>>>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>>>he be defending it?
I answered the stupid questions above the requoting of Ken McVay's obvious
apologia for homosexuals and the acts that get them termed as homosexuals.
>>How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?"
>Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
>referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
>can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
It has been explained repeatedly and the lurkers have gotten the point. It
is you that seeks to do damage control and diversion. Won't work!
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
>Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
>referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
>can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned homosexual sex? I made no
such claim. It is you making the claim that I made the claim! I have
maintained that he makes apologia for a "community" that obviously engages
in such acts. They aren't called homosexuals for any other reason Georg and
you look extremely agenda concious and stupid to keep up this current ruse!
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>>>If Gay McVay
>>>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
>>>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should
>>>not have the right of free speech?
>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>have the right of free speech?
Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his allegiance to B'Nai B'rith
will show how he aggresively seeks to silence the opposition using what he
calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada.
Just use the following key words at DejaNews:
ZUNDEL McVAY FREE SPEECH and you will see much!
or do a search on GROSVENOR McVAY FREE SPEECH
and you will find such gems as:
http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315519835
Subject: Re: Free Speech
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/01/13
In article <34bab636...@news.interlog.com>,
Sheila Paterson <shepat@//REMOVETHIS//interlog.com> wrote:
[snip]
>Everyone has the right to free speech no matter how obnoxious,
>offensive, fascist or boring. What one doesn't have is the right to
>keep someone from speaking.
Although many here would argue the point, the statements above are not
correct for Canada, which does not have the protection of the American
First Amendment.
In short, in accordance with recent Supreme Court of Canada findings,
there are acceptable abridgments to Canadian Charter rights to free
speech.
<<SNIPPING>>
-----END OF ARTICLE------
http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652
http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637
Subject: Supreme Court upholds defamatory libel law
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>>You just don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
>Note that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie is repeating his non-answer.
>
>When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O Gutless
>One?
http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=157567242
Subject: Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security?
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>McVay on CBC:
>"I did at that time approve [of] Canadian actions against Zundel against
>Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction because they offended me so
>deeply I said good shut them up put them in jail do what ever it takes,
>...no free speech."
Care to deny the above now Georg? DejaNews is filled with such!
I'll bet that you really approve of Socialist Canada's "free speech"
too.
Billy Bob
>JGB
Billy Bob Throckmorton
Billy Bob Throckmorton
You can always tell when Georg is losing. He has to resort to quoting people
out of context. Strange you don't hold your homosexuals to the same
standards. Look at who started with the name calling and I would say that a
vagina mouth is an accurate description of many that you have sided with!
You're known by the company you keep Georg and you run with a very filthy
bunch of vermin indeed!
Billy Bob
In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.217.127>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>In article <6nd9c0$r...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>
--
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.217.200>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>
>
>forget the Torah. But of course, Mr. McVay has said no such thing. I guess
>Scottie is still a liar, isn't he?
You're showing how desperate you are now! You are merely grabbing at straws.
Did I put the reamrk in quotes and attribute him as actually saying those
words or did I figuratively say thet by his stance and actions he says
forget the Torah. Big difference if my post is examined in its original
context as restored here.
My original:
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
[ ... ]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Billy Bob
---------END OF ORIGINAL--------
BTW Georg you really seem to have quite a passion in defending the
homosexual agenda! You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the
closet are you?
>JGB
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
"No one pays attention to Jeffrey Brown's cowardly lies."
Some post that ole' Jeffrey is an ADL libel operative...
The JGB Guy
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS). BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> To see who is unable to deal with his sexual obsessions in any way other
> than citing known forgeries, just see Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie Bradbury's
> last post.
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
"No one pays attention to Jeffrey Brown's cowardly lies."
Some post that ole' Jeffrey is an ADL libel operative...
The JGB Guy
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS). BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <35925002...@veritas.nizkor.org>, Steve Mock
> <sm...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote:
>
> >Billy Bob Throckmorton wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> Is Mr. McVay himself a consumer of male genitalia? How many
> >> Nizkorians indulge in bobbing for the penis?
> >
> >Can you imagine what a rush Tavish must be getting by graphically describing
> >homosexual acts in public on these newsgroups. Methinks someone is projecting
> >his own hidden desires... Well, now's your opporunity Tavish. No need to be
> >ashamed of those feelings any longer.
>
> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
> the best he could do was to repeat yet another long-discredited forgery.)
> It's quite clear that the subject is an obsession with him.
>
> I have no interest in speculating just why this is. I will, however, note
> that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie himself has passed judgement on his own
> actions:
>
> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
> always attacks the opposing person..."
>
> -- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
> -- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
> -- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
> -- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
>
> "False accusations and personal insults shows how desperate you are."
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury
> -- Subject: Ken Barnes Lies!
> -- Date: 1997/06/09
> -- Message-Id: <339CAD...@spam.not.net>
>
> "The mentally deficient can only assault character because they are
> devoid of ideas."
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury
> -- Subject: One Jew and One Toadie Corrected
> About Anti-Christs. (Classic Informative
> Repost Contained Herein.)
> -- Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:14:37 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <33C026...@spam.not.net>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial2.industry.phoenix.net
>
> "The hypocrisy shows! The hypocrisy shows!"
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury (phi...@phoenix.net)
> -- Subject: Who Are The True Racists BUT Go
> Unnoticed? Restored #1
> -- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:47:32 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <343173...@spamfree.juno.com>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial52.phoenix.net
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
"No one pays attention to Jeffrey Brown's cowardly lies."
Some post that ole' Jeffrey is an ADL libel operative...
The JGB Guy
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS). BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> >Ol' anti-homophobe McVay says forget Torah; tolerate this lifestyle!
>
> Interesting... Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie claims that Ken McVay said to
> forget the Torah. But of course, Mr. McVay has said no such thing. I guess
> Scottie is still a liar, isn't he?
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6nbl7s$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <35982dcb....@news3.ibm.net>, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee)
> wrote:
>
> >In <jeff_brown-25...@38.27.216.69>, on Thu, 25 Jun 1998
> >14:52:00 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >> As has already been noted, Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie will almost
> >> invariably introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into
> >> any thread in which he takes part. (When I recently challenged him to cite
> >> an instance in which he had _not_ been the first to bring up the subject,
> >
> >I am almost afraid to ask this, Jeff, but why do you figure that is?
>
> I won't speculate on that. I merely observe that he does almost invariably
> introduce the subject of male genitalia and homosexual sex into any thread
> in which he takes part.
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> >In article <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>,
> >doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com says...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
> >>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
> >
> >Doc shouldn't you have said:
> >"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
> >honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
> >
> > Billy Bob
>
> Isn't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie cute when he's talking to himself like this?
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6nbnfo$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> >Ol' anti-homophobe McVay says forget Torah; tolerate this lifestyle!
>
> Interesting... Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie claims that Ken McVay said to
> forget the Torah. But of course, Mr. McVay has said no such thing. I guess
> Scottie is still a liar, isn't he?
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6nd9c0$r...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> >After pulling that big one from your deep throat vagina mouth you're
> >short of breath aren't you?
>
> "Where is your honour and chivalry for castigating a man
> on a personal level and not making a personal and public
> apology?"
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury
> -- Subject: Klaus Refuses to Apologize for
> Denigrating Herr Hoffman Under
> the Eyes of His Soverign Lord.
> -- Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 17:52:28 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <33C2C4...@spam.not.net>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial3.industry.phoenix.net
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >I'd bet that you're a switch hitter in the public bathrooms on Saturday
> >night.
>
> "...I can only discount it on account of the personal slur made."
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury
> -- Subject: Re: #2 Religious Bigotry Unmasked
> in the name of Eric Hoffer
> -- Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 18:49:09 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <3373B7...@spam-not.net>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial7.bellville.phoenix.net
>
> >How many penises do you suck in a given evening?
>
> "Such childish slander from an infantile mind. Can't deal with the fact
> so you name call."
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury
> -- Subject: Re: Tavish Whines "Pay Attention To Me!"
> -- Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 18:22:57 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <3399ED...@spam.not.net>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial1.industry.phoenix.net
>
> >You think nothing of being a disease carrier do you?
>
> "Still only limited to personal attacks aren't you?"
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
> -- Subject: DCKOM a Judge of People? He Quotes a Jewish
> Assassin in His Sig Line! What Does This Tell You All?
> -- Message-ID: <3547dfe2....@news.tavish-central.net>
> -- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:28:21 GMT
>
> >I liken your kind to the rats that carried the plague.
>
> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
> always attacks the opposing person..."
>
> -- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
> -- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
> -- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
> -- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
>
> "The hypocrisy shows! The hypocrisy shows!"
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury (phi...@phoenix.net)
> -- Subject: Who Are The True Racists BUT Go
> Unnoticed? Restored #1
> -- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:47:32 -0500
> -- Message-ID: <343173...@spamfree.juno.com>
> -- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial52.phoenix.net
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <3596b4ee...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
> a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:42:44 -0400, jgb...@earthlink.net (Jeffrey G.
> >Brown) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <6n441m$9...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> >>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> >>puppet, wrote:
> >
> >>>>[Gay McVay and his close pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
> >>>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]
> >>>
> >>>Doc shouldn't you have said:
> >>>"[Gay McVay and his "closeted" pals will not address (to this day) Jerome's
> >>>honest questions! Why? 6/27/98 Tavish]" instead? Hardy har har!
> >>>
> >>> Billy Bob
> >
> >>Isn't Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie cute when he's talking to himself like this?
> >
> >What is even "cuter" is seeing the leadership of Nizkor making
> >apologia for homosexual acts.
>
> And what's absolutely hilarious, is watching Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie spin
> out another lie and expecting anyone -- even his precious if insubstantial
> 'lurkers' -- to believe him.
>
> Mr. McVay didn't apologize for anyone's homosexual acts. He didn't even
> mention said acts. The Gutless One is lying -- again.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >Here is Nizkor's leading man McVay making apologia for the typhoid
> >Mary's of the 90's. "Gay" McVay said:
> >" During the past ten years, one half of Canada's arts community has
> >died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of all sorts. Such a
> >loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon our cultural life,
> >and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very sad reality."
>
> Mr. McVay didn't apologize for anyone's homosexual acts. He didn't even
> mention said acts. The Gutless One is lying -- again.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >Haven't they heard of personal responsibility?
>
> I'm amazed to find that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie can spell
> 'responsibility'. I didn't think it was part of his vocabulary.
>
> > Afterall Jeffrey you are the one that has
> >espoused personal responsibilty lately:
> >http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366037434
>
> Yup. I pointed out in that message that "Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie doesn't
> understand the concept of personal responsibility". So far, The Gutless
> One has done nothing that would cause that evaluation to change.
>
> >BTW Jeffrey here is another admission of yours:
> >
> >http://x13.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=366595963
> >"Re: Eliis Fumbles (was: HateWatch Lies)"
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for posting
> > the original forgeries. My own belief is that an individual using the
> > ID "Jim Dyer" created and posted the forgeries. Whether this is
> > Bradbury under another ID, or merely a friend of his, cannot be
> > determined.....
> >
> > ~~~~ END ~~~~
> >
> >Ol' Georg says in one I'm a forger and in the next he doesn't know!
>
> The Gutless One is lying, of course. I have never cited him as the author
> of the 'Strom Lies' forgery. I have, however, said:
>
> I do await, with great interest, Bradbury's explanation of just how
> his continued use of known forgeries can be reconciled with his
> posturing as a "truth teller". The answer to that question should
> prove most amusing -- should Bradbury ever find the courage to address
> it.
>
> To the surprise of absolutely no one, Scott Bradbury has _never_ explained
> why his actions are so at variance with his expressed philosophy of 'truth
> telling'.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >Don't feel too bad Georg, you have quite a record of making apologia
> >for homosexual acts!
> >
> >I.E.
> >
> >http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=338399485
>
> Another clumsy lie from Scott Bradbury. He's citing one of his own
> messages here, not mine -- so obviously, I could not have made an
> 'apologia' for anything in a message I did not author. The only text of
> mine that The Gutless One quotes in this message is my explanation of the
> source of the 'Strom Lies' forgeries; no mention of 'homosexual acts' is
> made in the material of mine that Scottie quotes. In fact, the only
> references to homosexual acts in this post (other than the forgeries) are
> those that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie makes himself!
>
> Do keep accusing people of saying things they didn't say, Scottie. No one
> can do as thorough a job of reducing your credibility to zero as you do,
> every single day.
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you to
> a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:46:17 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
> >
> >>In <35956d68...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sat, 27 Jun 1998
> >>22:44:54 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>> Now who has stepped in to defend homosexuality and
> >>> elaborates on a Gay Pride parade? Gay McVay:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
> >>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
> >>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
> >>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
> >>> sad reality.
> >>>
> >>> "Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
> >>> if he bit them in their nether regions.
> >
> >>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
> >>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
> >
> >His tolerance of this group is defending what they do!
>
> Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
> reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
> referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
> he be defending it?
>
> >If Gay McVay
> >believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
> >to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
> >Ernst Zundel for instance.
>
> When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
> have the right of free speech?
>
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
"No one pays attention to Jeffrey Brown's cowardly lies."
Some post that ole' Jeffrey is an ADL libel operative...
The JGB Guy
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS). BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <35980a22....@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you
> to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:24:54 -0400, jgb...@earthlink.net,
> >jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
> >>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
> >>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
> >>he be defending it?
> >
> >How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?" You
> >don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out o' apologist
> >for the Gay Pride crowd!
>
> Nor does one have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Poor Ol'
> Gutless Scottie is frantically tap-dancing to distract us from the utter
> lack of evidence for his position -- again.
>
> Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
> reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
> can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
> questions...
>
> >Again what Gay McVay said:
> >>> A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
> >>> arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
> >>> all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
> >>> our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
> >>> sad reality.
> >
> >Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
> >I don't believe these "arteests" got AIDS from blood transfusions or
> >IV drug use do you? They got it from doing things that "homophobes"
> >find disgusting and threatening to public health!
>
> And we're _still_ waiting for Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie to show us where
> Ken McVay 'defended' homosexual sex...
>
> >>>If Gay McVay
> >>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
> >>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
> >>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
> >
> >>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
> >>have the right of free speech?
> >
> >His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. You just
> >don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
>
> Really? When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O
> Gutless One?
>
> Oh, and by the way... When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that
> Ernst Zundel should not have the right of free speech? We're _still_
> waiting for an answer to that one, too...
>
> >Wise up Brown Nose and show some intelligence for a change!
>
> Turn down your Reality Distortion Field[TM], Scottie, and show us some
> evidence that you know what you're talking about for a change.
>
> >BTW Georg have you ever noticed how you always defend things that are
> >gay?
>
> Really? Where in this thread did I do that?
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <359809a6....@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "beat you
> to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net)
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:24:03 GMT, gmc...@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
> >
> >>In <3596bbb3...@news.tavish-central.net>, on Sun, 28 Jun 1998
> >>21:57:47 GMT, doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish) wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>> His tolerance of this group is defending what they do! If Gay McVay
> >>> believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
> >>> to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
> >>> Ernst Zundel for instance.
> >
> >>No, his tolerance of the group is defending their basic civil rights.
> >
> >Since when is homosexual sex a civil right?
>
> Since when did Mr. McVay refer to homosexual sex in this thread? We're
> _still_ waiting for an answer to that one, O Gutless One...
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <6nbkoj$6...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
> bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
> puppet, wrote:
>
> >Gort McFee commented:
> >>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott. He seems
> >>>>to be defending tolerance. Is that what has your knickers in a knot?
> >
> >What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then?
>
> It makes reference to a person who fears homosexuals -- you, for instance.
>
> Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
> reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
> can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
> questions...
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
> >>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
> >>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
> >>he be defending it?
> >
> >How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?"
>
> Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
> referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
> can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
>
> Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
> referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
> can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> >>>If Gay McVay
> >>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
> >>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others.
> >>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
> >
> >>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
> >>have the right of free speech?
> >
> >His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
>
> When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
> have the right of free speech?
>
> >You just
> >don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
>
> Note that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie is repeating his non-answer.
>
> When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O Gutless One?
>
Billy Bob Throckmorton
In article <slrn6pkbk...@unix3.netaxs.com>, i...@global.plantation.org
says...
>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind
<bill...@throckmorton.com> wrote:
>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>ROTFL!!! Why should we denounce it?
So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows
why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one
is to accept the Torah!
>It's part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!
>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they're
>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down.
So you are confessing now that Jews aren't white also?
>Every little bit helps...
Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes
from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the
nations or the Goy.
See: http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
and
http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
Subject: The Noachide Laws
What does G-d require from non-Jews?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
binding on all humanity. The first six of these laws were given to
Adam. Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as "the
Noachide Laws", or "the Commandments of Noah's Sons".
The Noachide Laws are:
1. Not to worship idols;
2. Not to curse G-d;
3. To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
4. Not to murder;
5. Not to commit adultery or incest;
6. Not to steal;
7. Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.
Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
(Noah himself, to name just one).
The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
-----------END------------
I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It
appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of
years ago. If this weren't true then why would
G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>ary*n "heroes:" see "The Pink Swatstika:"
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
I hope and pray that America "vomits" out its filth soon as well!
You all will not be missed!
Billy Bob
> Bob Alpert * balpert "at" netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6ne12j$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the closet are you?
"...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
always attacks the opposing person..."
-- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
-- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
-- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
"The hypocrisy shows! The hypocrisy shows!"
-- From: Scott Bradbury (phi...@phoenix.net)
-- Subject: Who Are The True Racists BUT Go
Unnoticed? Restored #1
-- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:47:32 -0500
-- Message-ID: <343173...@spamfree.juno.com>
-- NNTP-Posting-Host: dial52.phoenix.net
JGB
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6ne0ap$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.217.200>,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
> [...deletia...]
>>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
>>can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
>>questions...
>
>He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to defend it.
Translation: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie _knows_ that Ken McVay said nothing
that could be construed as a defense of homosexual sex. Alas, this fact
has been pointed out. So now The Gutless One has little choice now but to
claim -- against all reason -- that Ken was 'defending' a topic that
wasn't mentioned in Ken's post.
> [...deletia...]
>It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; they avoid
>saying they are pro-abortion but they approve of the practice.
"You're right; "pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice"..."
-- From: Scott Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com)
-- Subject: Re: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots
-- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:46:54 GMT
-- Message-ID: <34fe03af....@news.flash.net>
Poor ol' gutless Scottie's own words, people...
> [...deletia...]
>I have no
>doubt in my mind that you, McVay and the rest of your ilk approve of the
>homosexual community and their activity! Care to deny this now?
Do I care to deny that you have no doubt in your mind about a subject you
know nothing about? Nope. It's par for the course for you.
> [...deletia...]
>Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned homosexual sex? I made no
>such claim. It is you making the claim that I made the claim!
Nope. I've never made such a claim. Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie must be in
meltdown mode now, since his lies are getting sooooo obvious...
> [...deletia...]
>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>have the right of free speech?
>
>Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his allegiance to B'Nai B'rith
>will show how he aggresively seeks to silence the opposition using what he
>calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada.
Really? When has Ken McVay made use of the Canadian "hate speech" laws to
silence his opposition?
>Just use the following key words at DejaNews:
>ZUNDEL McVAY FREE SPEECH and you will see much!
>or do a search on GROSVENOR McVAY FREE SPEECH
>and you will find such gems as:
>
>
>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315519835
>Subject: Re: Free Speech
>From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>Date: 1998/01/13
>
>In article <34bab636...@news.interlog.com>,
>Sheila Paterson <shepat@//REMOVETHIS//interlog.com> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>Everyone has the right to free speech no matter how obnoxious,
>>offensive, fascist or boring. What one doesn't have is the right to
>>keep someone from speaking.
>
>Although many here would argue the point, the statements above are not
>correct for Canada, which does not have the protection of the American
>First Amendment.
>
>In short, in accordance with recent Supreme Court of Canada findings,
>there are acceptable abridgments to Canadian Charter rights to free
>speech.
>
><<SNIPPING>>
>
> -----END OF ARTICLE------
That's a gem, all right. It is absolutely flawless in its lack of any
mention of Ernst Zundel (except in the .sig, which bears no relevance to
the discussion).
>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652
Also no mention of Zundel...
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637
Also no mention of Zundel...
> [...deletia...]
>http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=157567242
>Subject: Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security?
>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>
>>McVay on CBC:
>>"I did at that time approve [of] Canadian actions against Zundel against
>>Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction because they offended me so
>>deeply I said good shut them up put them in jail do what ever it takes,
>>...no free speech."
That's nice. But it's your assertion that McVay & Co. "want Zundel in
prison for mere words!" -- note the present tense.
What is Ken McVay's opinion _now_?
ORAC
In article <359A88DA...@jeffbrown.com>, The Jeffrey Brown Lurker
<lur...@jeffbrown.com> wrote:
>***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS) BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
>
>"No one pays attention to Jeffrey Brown's cowardly lies."
>Some post that ole' Jeffrey is an ADL libel operative...
>
>The JGB Guy
>
>***JEFFREY G. (GUTLESS). BROWN'S COWARDLY LIES***
You must have a lot of free time on your hands to post this same
"statement" at least a couple of dozen times in at least 10 different
threads? Could it be unemployment or prison?
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Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6neubn$2...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>,
bill...@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob Throckmorton) wrote:
>In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.216.199>,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>>In article <6ne12j$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>>
>>>You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the closet are you?
>
>> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
>> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
>> always attacks the opposing person..."
>
>Quit distorting my words Jeffrey!
_Your_ words? Those are the words of Poor Ol' Gutless Scott Bradbury, and
you've already denied being him.
Forget which sock puppet you were wearing tonight, Scottie?
Doc Tavish
On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:08:44 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G.
Brown) wrote:
>In article <6ne0ap$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>> [...deletia...]
>>>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>>reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
>>>can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
>>>questions...
>>He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to defend it.
>Translation: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie _knows_ that Ken McVay said nothing
>that could be construed as a defense of homosexual sex.
Translation: Georg can only delete and alter words and comment on his
own version. Why don't you leave what others have written intact and
then comment on what they truly said? You are the god damned coward!
From:
Subject: Re: Poor Ol' Fag Brown Won't Accept Reality- He Makes
Apologia for hte Homosexual Lifestyle
>Since when did Mr. McVay refer to homosexual sex in this thread? We're
>_still_ waiting for an answer to that one, O Gutless One...
What was McVay referring to and the "pride" they have and used
homophobe in his reply. What is the definition of a homophobe? It is
generally used derisively of those that oppose homosexuals, their
lifestyle and their political agenda. Gay McVay shows his alliance to
their cause with this post (that you keep deleting):
http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
Subject: Dear Nizkor....
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/06/25
Message-ID: <6msk97$hgk$1...@news.trends.ca>
In article <3593c583....@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Electric Zen <elect...@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
{Homophobia is the term used by apologist for perversion to deride
those that point out what gays really do and what their lifestyle does
to society in the way it negatively impacts it! 6/28/98 Tavish}
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
functioning neuron between them, would it not?
This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route.
(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
meaning of tolerance.)
A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
sad reality.
"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
if he bit them in their nether regions.
--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now I ask you o apologist for all things Gay. What group is McVay
asking that tolerance be shown toward- the anti-homosexual Phelps or
the gay "pride" people who are having a 50% mortality rate? Why does
McVay and his pal use such words as "homophobia" and "homophobe" if
they aren't referencing things that are homo? What do homos do? By
having sympathy for this crowd of perverts McVay condones what they do
PERIOD.
>Alas, this fact has been pointed out. So now The Gutless One has little choice
>now but to claim -- against all reason -- that Ken was 'defending' a topic that
>wasn't mentioned in Ken's post.
Why are homosexuals called homosexuals Georg? If they did not engage
in homosexual acts they wouldn't be called homosexuals would they?
What is so hard about understanding that concept? If Gay McVay speaks
of tolerance concerning this group then he would be condoning what
they do wouldn't he?
>> [...deletia...]
>>It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; they avoid
>>saying they are pro-abortion but they approve of the practice.
> "You're right; "pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice"..."
>
> -- From: Scott Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com)
> -- Subject: Re: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
> Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots
> -- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:46:54 GMT
> -- Message-ID: <34fe03af....@news.flash.net>
>
>Poor ol' gutless Scottie's own words, people...
My words but as usual out of context entirely. What would the bar
association say of a lawyer who purposely quotes out of context as you
always do?
My actual in context words were:
http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=330936130
Subject: Re: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots
From: doc_t...@nonspam.bigfoot.com (Gunther Schiller)
Date: 1998/03/05
Message-ID: <34fe03af....@news.flash.net>
>No is doesn't - it says they are pro-choice. You simply infer what you want.
>Pro-choice is pro-choice. Pro-Abortion is not pro-choice.
You're right; "pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice" but abortions are the
result of those that are "pro-choice." How many pro-choice people are
anti-abortion?
[The entire wording shows the true context! The point being made so
what if the pro-choice people don't want to be called pro-abortion-
the results are the same and anyone reading the entire original post
will see my intent. How many people would believe that homosexuals
would disapprove of homosexual acts? 7/1/98 TavishClick here to see
the original post:
http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=330801642
Subject: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots WAS: Jewish
Women International and Others are Pro-Abortion (Pro-Death))
From: doc_t...@nonspam.bigfoot.com (Gunther Schiller)
Date: 1998/03/04
Message-ID: <34fd8edb....@news.flash.net>]
>> [...deletia...]
>>I have no
>>doubt in my mind that you, McVay and the rest of your ilk approve of the
>>homosexual community and their activity! Care to deny this now?
>Do I care to deny that you have no doubt in your mind about a subject you
>know nothing about?
Are you trying to say that it takes a special knowledge then to know
that homosexuals engage in homosexual acts? You really are pathetic
Georg!
>Nope. It's par for the course for you.
People that defend homosexuals undoubtedly defend their lifestyle
Georg. If they didn't engage in the lifestyle they wouldn't be called
homosexuals. What is so difficult aboout the concept? If you defended
a community of bank robbers wouldn't you be also defending what they
do- bank robbing? Sane difference!
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned homosexual sex? I made no
>>such claim. It is you making the claim that I made the claim!
>
>Nope. I've never made such a claim.
The first actual, honest statement and admission I have ever seen you
make Georg if yoiu are admitting now that I have never made such a
claim myself. You make the claim that I made the claim that Gay McVay
mentioned homosexual acts.
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie must be in
>meltdown mode now, since his lies are getting sooooo obvious...
It is your lies that are obvious. When you have to delete material and
quote out of context then it is obvious that you are the liar!
>> [...deletia...]
I noticed that you deleted:
>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
^^^^^^
Notice the word others Georg?
>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>>have the right of free speech?
>>
>>Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his allegiance to B'Nai B'rith
>>will show how he aggresively seeks to silence the opposition using what he
>>calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada.
>Really? When has Ken McVay made use of the Canadian "hate speech" laws to
>silence his opposition?
>
>>Just use the following key words at DejaNews:
>>ZUNDEL McVAY FREE SPEECH and you will see much!
>>or do a search on GROSVENOR McVAY FREE SPEECH
>>and you will find such gems as:
>>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315519835
>>Subject: Re: Free Speech
>>From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>>Date: 1998/01/13
>>
>>In article <34bab636...@news.interlog.com>,
>>Sheila Paterson <shepat@//REMOVETHIS//interlog.com> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>Everyone has the right to free speech no matter how obnoxious,
>>>offensive, fascist or boring. What one doesn't have is the right to
>>>keep someone from speaking.
>>
>>Although many here would argue the point, the statements above are not
>>correct for Canada, which does not have the protection of the American
>>First Amendment.
>>
>>In short, in accordance with recent Supreme Court of Canada findings,
>>there are acceptable abridgments to Canadian Charter rights to free
>>speech.
>>
>><<SNIPPING>>
>>
>> -----END OF ARTICLE------
>That's a gem, all right. It is absolutely flawless in its lack of any
>mention of Ernst Zundel (except in the .sig, which bears no relevance to
>the discussion).
................................
>> [...deletia...]
I noticed that you deleted:
>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
^^^^^^
Notice the word others Georg?
.....................................................
>>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652
>
>Also no mention of Zundel...
Remember the words you deleted in which I said "others?"
>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637
>
>Also no mention of Zundel...
Remember the words you deleted in which I said "others?"
>> [...deletia...]
>
>>http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=157567242
>>Subject: Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security?
>>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>>
>>>McVay on CBC:
>>>"I did at that time approve [of] Canadian actions against Zundel against
>>>Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction because they offended me so
>>>deeply I said good shut them up put them in jail do what ever it takes,
>>>...no free speech."
>That's nice. But it's your assertion that McVay & Co. "want Zundel in
>prison for mere words!" -- note the present tense.
>What is Ken McVay's opinion _now_?
Quit trying to back peddle asswipe. Here is what you originally said:
>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>>have the right of free speech?
I answered you above!
>JGB
----
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In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.216.199>,
jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>In article <6ne12j$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>puppet, wrote:
>
>>You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the closet are you?
> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
> always attacks the opposing person..."
Quit distorting my words Jeffrey! I am again warning you publicly so you
can't fall back and make out like you're innocent. You rob ideas of their
meaning! When you repeatedly quote out of context especially after it has
been pointed out to you numerous times by numerous people then you are
deliberately distorting or lying! What would a state bar association do to a
lawyer who engaged in such practices publicly? Don't they have ethics they
wish to maintain?
The true context is:
" This is my original- If I hear something being debated pertaining to a
subject that I am not cognizant of, therefore impartial, I examine the
manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is telling the truth and
who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar always attacks the opposing
person and the truth teller always attacks the opposing premise!"
Jeffrey all you do is attack me. You very seldom if ever attack my premise-
you mainly delete all of my words and then launch against me personally as
well as you do others!
Lurkers the entire original post is below:
>
> -- Scott Bradbury <tav...@phoenix.net>
> -- Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
> -- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:57:05 -0600
> -- Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=208565066
Subject: Statistics Concerning Homosexuals
From: Doc Tavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
Date: 1997/01/08
Message-ID: <32D40A...@phoenix.net>
The following was a response written to a leftist radio show
personality for his barbed remarks concerning Senator Jesse
Helm's views on the homosexual scourge.
July 8, 1995
Hightower Radio / Austin, Texas
Fax 1-512-473-2233
Attention: Mr. Jim Hightower
Mr. Hightower,
Before you start condemning Jesse Helms you need to look
at a few statistics and learn some medicine and hygiene! The
myth that AIDS is spreading in the heterosexual community is
concocted by those with self serving interests! If AIDS is not a
"gay disease" then why are they the most vocal? The reason why
AIDS is spread into the heterosexual community is women having
sex with bi-sexual men. The statistics prove it and the known
facts about vectors of disease propagation back the facts!
Mr. Hightower it is far easier for a woman to catch AIDS
from a bi-sexual man than it is for a heterosexual man to catch
AIDS from an infected woman and for the same exact reason that
AIDS spreads like wildfire in the homosexual community. A
woman's womb and the digestive tract of a man (also a woman's)
are lined with numerous capillaries that promote the passing of
nutrient either from womb to fetus or absorbtion of nutrients
from the digestive tract to the blood system. Both areas are
highly "conductive" with a person's circulatory system. The AIDS
virus is the same as a nutrient in its ability to enter the
blood system. Homosexual male sex breaks the tenants of natural
sex for which the woman's vagina is well adapted and intended.
Anal tissue is frequently ripped with resultant bleeding whereas
the vagina is not! (This is the reason that AIDS ravages the
male homosexuals and not the lesbian! Torn anal tissue opens the
blood system more readily for the exchange of bodily fluids.) If
homosexuals did not practice what Mr. Helms referred to as
"disgusting perverted sex" then they would not be the primary
carriers of the virus. The male homosexual's lifestyle is the
primary mode of transmission and replication thus adding to the
disease's longetivity in society! This is a fact Mr. Hightower
and if it were mere fable then AIDS would not not be so
vociferously politicized by the homosexual community!
The following figures are taken from The World Almanac and Book
of Facts 1993; with the Almanac citing its source as: Federal
Centers For Disease Control (cumulative 6/30/92)
AIDS in the U.S.
Cases
Total reported: 230,179
Adults/adolescents: 226,281
Children: 3,898
Mode of Transmission
Male
Sex with men (homosexual) 65%
Injection drug abuse 9%
Sex with men & inject drugs 7%
Hemophilia 1% {this is Ryan White}
Heterosexual contact 3%
Blood transfusion 1%
Other/unknown 4%
Female
Injection drug abuse 50%
Heterosexual contact 35% {with bi-sexual men}
Blood transfusion 7%
Other/unknown 8%
AIDS Deaths and New Cases
In the U.S. Deaths in 1992: 22,660
In the U.S. New Cases in 1992: 45,472 Source: National
Center for Health Statsistics, U.S. Dept. of Health and Human
Services. (The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1994)
Per capita expenditures for AIDS, Heart Disease and Cancer
DISEASE DEATHS DOLLARS SPENT IN RESEARCH
AIDS 29,084 $1,400,000,000
Heart Disease 954,138 $ 782,000,000
Cancer 547,000 $2,100,000,000
- or -
DISEASE versus DOLLAR AMOUNT ALLOTED PER DEATH FOR RESEARCH
AIDS ~ $48,000,000 per death
Heart Disease ~ $ 820 per death
Cancer ~ $ 3,800,000 per death
Source: (Universal Almanac for 1995) Data submitted by American
Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and U.S. Public
Health Services.(Data compiled reflects 1993)
{Although a miniscule of children such as Ryan White get AIDS
more children have contracted and died from cancer (leukemia)
and heart problems. More women have developed cancer (breast
cancer) than have contracted AIDS. Can these innocent sufferers
be accused as having a high risk lifestyle?}
Mr. Hightower I get very disgusted at times when I hear
your "idiot of the week awards" and you maligning Senator Jesse
Helms for stating the truth. Below is the letter of support that
I sent him via fax/modem and the Compuserve letter that I sent
"The Doctor of Democracy" Rush Limbaugh. You can dismiss me as a
nut case Mr. Hightower but I promise you that more Americans
think the way we do than the way liberals think! The elections
of 1994 show it and in 1996 we will "clean the liberal's clocks"
as NRA's Wayne LaPierre puts it.
July 6, 1995
Fax xxxxxxxxx
Dear Mr. Helms,
I truly admire and respect you and I want you to feel
appreciated for the fine stances you have taken and are now
taking. I wish you could be cloned and more of Congress could be
filled by people of your values! I appreciate your crustiness,
because I am ashamed at the "wimp nation" this country is being
directed into by the liberal elements! I want to declare you an
honorary father, but you must take second place because my real
father will always come first! Below is the letter I just sent
Rush Limbaugh as he was talking today about the heat you are
taking for wanting to cut AIDS funding! More people are behind
you than what the (liberal controlled) polls are indicating!
Sincerely yours,
Doc Tavish
COMPUSERVE xxxxx,xxxx
Rush,
I will cut to the chase about the money being spent on
AIDS and what people are saying about risky behaviour.
AIDS is the one main risky behaviour in which those that
practice "disgusting sex habits" are not contributing
financially to the effort of research.
The smoker's are lambasted because "they know they may get
cancer so they know the risk they are taking" and "they are a
burden on the healthcare system." Look at the tax paid on every
pack of cigarettes, pack of chewing tobacco or a tin of snuff.
Think of all the taxes paid by the consumers of tobacco
products. If the taxes were likened to insurance premiums for
any medical complications down the road; then you could safely
conclude they have more than paid their way!
The drinkers are lambasted because "they know that they
may get liver problems, diabetes, in some cases brain damage
etc." As you mentioned today, look at all the cold talk about
Mickey Mantle's liver transplant! Again as with tobacco
products, look at all the taxes paid by the consumers of "adult
beverages," they too are more than paying their way!
Look how gun owners are being attacked for what the
lawless are doing. The law abiding are being blamed for the
drain in the healthcare system due to the urban area trauma
centers working over time. Gun owners pay taxes on ammunition
and the firearms they buy plus most wildlife conservation
programs are financed by the taxes paid and the fees paid on
hunting licenses.
The conclusion of the matter is this all three
aforementioned activities are legal and the participants pay
their way as they go, however the activities the majority of
AIDS "victims" are illegal- i.e. sodomy is still illegal in most
locales and i.v. drug abuse is still illegal also! Are the
propagators of AIDS paying any sort of tax to contribute for
their needs down the road? Why didn't the left get radical about
the homosexual community being a burden on healthcare when
socialized medicine was being pushed!? I still remember about
how they wanted to raise taxes on cigarettes ($1.00 pack), place
a sin tax on "adult beverages" and Senator Daniel Moynihan was,
with Hillary's blessing, proposing a 1000% tax on firearms
anmmunition!
When are the homosexuals "going to get out of the wagon
and help pull their share of the load?" Senator Dianne Feinstein
needs to propose a sin tax on all of the homosexual chicken hawk
roosts in her constituency if she really wants to show she is
not a hypocrite! The bath houses were shut down once on account
of them being the breeding grounds for the propagation of the
AIDS virus but since Bill Clinton took office they are open for
business as usual!
I am very serious on this one Doctor!
Doc Tavish
Mr. Hightower, you need to make a public apology for all
the mis-information that you propagandize! I am not trying to be
in your face disrespectful but I am tired of seeing people get
attacked for speaking the truth and the hecklers not being able
to prove their point other than scorn or ridicule. Liberals
can't refute the truth so all liberals instead attempt to make
the truth bearer into a buffoon hoping to draw the public's
attention away from the message! Mr. Hightower I will tell you a
secret and I hope that you learn from it! This is my original-
If I hear something being debated pertaining to a subject that I
am not cognizant of, therefore impartial, I examine the manner
of the debate and conduct. I know who is telling the truth and
who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar always attacks
the opposing person and the truth teller always attacks the
opposing premise!
Doc Tavish
P.S. Please note that Jim Hightower no longer has a radio show!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I wonder if all the apologists for the homosexual community still stand by
their "tolerance" or approval in the light of the facts presented:
The following figures are taken from The World Almanac and Book
of Facts 1993; with the Almanac citing its source as: Federal
Centers For Disease Control (cumulative 6/30/92)
AIDS in the U.S.
Cases
Total reported: 230,179
Adults/adolescents: 226,281
Children: 3,898
Mode of Transmission
Male
Sex with men (homosexual) 65%
Injection drug abuse 9%
Sex with men & inject drugs 7%
Hemophilia 1% {this is Ryan White}
Heterosexual contact 3%
Blood transfusion 1%
Other/unknown 4%
Female
Injection drug abuse 50%
Heterosexual contact 35% {with bi-sexual men}
Blood transfusion 7%
Other/unknown 8%
AIDS Deaths and New Cases
In the U.S. Deaths in 1992: 22,660
In the U.S. New Cases in 1992: 45,472 Source: National
Center for Health Statsistics, U.S. Dept. of Health and Human
Services. (The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1994)
Per capita expenditures for AIDS, Heart Disease and Cancer
DISEASE DEATHS DOLLARS SPENT IN RESEARCH
AIDS 29,084 $1,400,000,000
Heart Disease 954,138 $ 782,000,000
Cancer 547,000 $2,100,000,000
- or -
DISEASE versus DOLLAR AMOUNT ALLOTED PER DEATH FOR RESEARCH
AIDS ~ $48,000,000 per death
Heart Disease ~ $ 820 per death
Cancer ~ $ 3,800,000 per death
Source: (Universal Almanac for 1995) Data submitted by American
Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and U.S. Public
Health Services.(Data compiled reflects 1993)
..........................................
What do all of you apologist for homosexuals have to say now? Did they get
their AIDS from eating ice cream or each other?
ZOG
On Thu, 02 Jul 1998 02:36:33 GMT, Doc Tavish <doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com> wrote:
[the usual ary*n spittle]
"Doc" has never answered the question of just when he intends to repent
his wickedness, when he plans to stop spitting on Jesus and Christianity
by his actions, and whether he has any plans to actually start following
the teachings and commandments of the "savior" he pretends to accept!
First, a little warning from the Scriptures about Biblical "scholars"
and "teachers" such as our resident village idiot Scott Bradbury, aka
"Doc Tavish." (The context is about false teachers who distort the
words and ministry of Jesus.):
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen,
masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for
Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is
not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as
servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their
actions deserve." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
Sums up "Tavish's" spewage about himself pretty well!
Now lurkers, ask yourselves, which of the following qualities mandated
by Jesus does "Tavish" the phony "Christian" display? The answer:
NONE! (He doesn't even *try*!) Anyone with at least one good eye and
half a brain can plainly see that "Doc" is a far worse Unchristian
Antichrist than any "Talmudic Pharisee" could hope to be!
Some of the commandments...
"Do not repay anyone evil for evil. . . do not take revenge,
my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written:
It is mine to avenge; I will repay, says the Lord.
(Romans 12:17-19)
"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but
only what is helpful for building others up."
(Ephesians 4:29)
"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and
slander, along with every form of malice."
(Ephesians 4:31)
"Live a life of love." (Ephesians 5:2)
"But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these:
anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your
lips. Do not lie. . . clothe yourselves with compassion,
kindness, humility, gentleness and patience."
(Colossians 4:6)
"Let your conversation always be full of grace."
(Colossians 4:6)
"Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will
become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like
gangrene." (2 Timothy 2:16, 17)
"Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men
oppose the truth -- men of depraved minds, who, as far as the
faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far
because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear
to everyone." (2 Timothy 3:8, 9)
"They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him.
They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit for doing anything
good." (Titus 1:16)
"Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves.
Do what it says. Anyone who listens to the word but does not
do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror
and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets
what he looks like." (James 1:22, 23)
"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep
a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion
is worthless." (James 1:26)
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever
is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable -- if anything
is excellent or praiseworthy -- think about such things."
(Philippians 4:8)
"The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."
(Galatians 5:22)
"If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any
other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler."
(1 Peter 4:15)
"Whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue
from evil and his lips from deceitful speech. He must turn away
from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it. For the
eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive
to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who
do evil." (1 Peter 2:10-12, a direct quote of Psalm 34:12-16)
...and the consequences of "Tavish's" willful disobeyal...
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the
knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only
a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will
consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses
died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished
who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as
an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him,
and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who
said, 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' and again, 'The Lord
will judge his people.' It is a dreadful thing to fall into the
hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-31)
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Carl Jung
>{Homophobia is the term used by apologist for perversion to deride
>those that point out what gays really do and what their lifestyle does
>to society in the way it negatively impacts it! 6/28/98 Tavish}
Actually, Doc, homophobia is the deap seated fear of homosexuality
that is prevelant in those who are insecure in the own sexual
orientation or who have deeply repressed latent homsexual tendencies.
Given your preoccupation with homosexuality and male sexual organs,
which you manage to bring into nearly every thread, one begins to
suspect you are a deeply closeted latent homosexual who desperatly
desires to be ravaged by an Aryan male in Nazi regalia.
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <6neubn$2...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
puppet, wrote:
>In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.216.199>,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>>In article <6ne12j$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>>
>>>You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the closet are you?
>
>> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
>> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
>> always attacks the opposing person..."
>
>
>Quit distorting my words Jeffrey! I am again warning you publicly so you
>can't fall back and make out like you're innocent.
Ooooo, stop, you're scaring me...
>You rob ideas of their meaning!
The unwarranted assumption here is that this 'idea' has any meaning even
though Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie gives it only lip service. He's entirely
unable to restrain himself from attacking those who oppose his views --
and thus, by his own logic, he must be a liar.
>When you repeatedly quote out of context especially after it has
>been pointed out to you numerous times by numerous people then you are
>deliberately distorting or lying!
Said 'numerous people' all live between your ears, O Gutless One. Everyone
else seems to recognize a quote when they see one.
>What would a state bar association do to a
>lawyer who engaged in such practices publicly?
I dunno. You'd have to ask a lawyer.
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <359aee5...@news.tavish-central.net>, Scott "" Bradbury
(doc_t...@bigfoot.com, phi...@phoenix.net) wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:08:44 -0400, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G.
>Brown) wrote:
>
>>In article <6ne0ap$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>
>>> [...deletia...]
>
>>>>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>>>reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
>>>>can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
>>>>questions...
>
>>>He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to defend it.
>
>>Translation: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie _knows_ that Ken McVay said nothing
>>that could be construed as a defense of homosexual sex.
>
>Translation: Georg can only delete and alter words and comment on his
>own version.
What gets deleted is endless spam. I challenge Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie to
cite a single instance in which I have altered his words when quoting
them.
>Why don't you leave what others have written intact and
>then comment on what they truly said? You are the god damned coward!
That's a real knee-slapper, Scottie, given your habit of citing forged
posts in your endless campaign to slander me. Until you start commenting
on what _I_ truly say, you can fold this argument five ways -- and do the
obvious with it.
> [...deletia...]
[Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie sez:]
>>>It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; they avoid
>>>saying they are pro-abortion but they approve of the practice.
>
>> "You're right; "pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice"..."
>>
>> -- From: Scott Bradbury (doc_t...@bigfoot.com)
>> -- Subject: Re: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
>> Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots
>> -- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:46:54 GMT
>> -- Message-ID: <34fe03af....@news.flash.net>
>>
>>Poor ol' gutless Scottie's own words, people...
>
>My words but as usual out of context entirely.
What 'context' changes '"pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice"' into
'"pro-abortion" is "pro-choice"'?
>What would the bar
>association say of a lawyer who purposely quotes out of context as you
>always do?
It might matter to a lawyer. I, on the other hand, don't know and don't care.
>My actual in context words were:
>
>http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=330936130
>Subject: Re: Susan "Zenda" Cohen Can Only Name Call BUT She Can't
>Defend The Indefensible! (was Re: More Lies from Bigots
>From: doc_t...@nonspam.bigfoot.com (Gunther Schiller)
>Date: 1998/03/05
>Message-ID: <34fe03af....@news.flash.net>
>
>>No is doesn't - it says they are pro-choice. You simply infer what you want.
>>Pro-choice is pro-choice. Pro-Abortion is not pro-choice.
>
>You're right; "pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice" but abortions are the
>result of those that are "pro-choice." How many pro-choice people are
>anti-abortion?
>
>[The entire wording shows the true context!
Thew entire wording shows that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie _did_ say that
'"pro-abortion" is not "pro-choice"'. No amount of tap-dancing, no matter
how furious, will change that. Thanks for the confirmation, O Gutless One.
> [...deletia...]
[Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie sez:]
>>>I have no
>>>doubt in my mind that you, McVay and the rest of your ilk approve of the
>>>homosexual community and their activity! Care to deny this now?
>
>>Do I care to deny that you have no doubt in your mind about a subject you
>>know nothing about?
>
>Are you trying to say that it takes a special knowledge then to know
>that homosexuals engage in homosexual acts?
Nope. I'm saying that I agree that you have no doubt in your mind that you
know what Mr. McVay and myself approve of, even though we've not commented
on the subject. Your ignorance of our thoughts on homosexual sex, as
usual, is no barrier to your being certain you know what we think. I
certainly won't deny that.
> [...deletia...]
[Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie sez:]
>>>Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned homosexual sex? I made no
>>>such claim. It is you making the claim that I made the claim!
>>
>>Nope. I've never made such a claim.
>
>The first actual, honest statement and admission I have ever seen you
>make Georg if yoiu are admitting now that I have never made such a
>claim myself.
Well, since I never claimed you did, I suppose I'd have to agree with you
on this point.
>You make the claim that I made the claim that Gay McVay
>mentioned homosexual acts.
Where? Cite the post.
>>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie must be in
>>meltdown mode now, since his lies are getting sooooo obvious...
>
>It is your lies that are obvious. When you have to delete material and
>quote out of context then it is obvious that you are the liar!
>
>>> [...deletia...]
>
>I noticed that you deleted:
>>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
> ^^^^^^
>
>Notice the word others Georg?
>
>>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>>>have the right of free speech?
>>>
>>>Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his allegiance to B'Nai B'rith
>>>will show how he aggresively seeks to silence the opposition using what he
>>>calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada.
>
>>Really? When has Ken McVay made use of the Canadian "hate speech" laws to
>>silence his opposition?
<< SFX: crickets... >>
> [...deletia...]
>>That's a gem, all right. It is absolutely flawless in its lack of any
>>mention of Ernst Zundel (except in the .sig, which bears no relevance to
>>the discussion).
>................................
>>> [...deletia...]
>
>I noticed that you deleted:
>>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time.
> ^^^^^^
>Notice the word others Georg?
You cited Ernst Zundel as an example to support your assertion that Ken
McVay "doesn't... appreciate the right to free speech". Do you have
evidence to back up that claim, O Gutless One, or are you going to
continue to tap-dance under cover of your weasel words?
>>>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652
>>
>>Also no mention of Zundel...
>
>Remember the words you deleted in which I said "others?"
You cited Ernst Zundel as an example to support your assertion that Ken
McVay "doesn't... appreciate the right to free speech". Do you have
evidence to back up that claim, O Gutless One, or are you going to
continue to tap-dance under cover of your weasel words?
>>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637
>>
>>Also no mention of Zundel...
>
>Remember the words you deleted in which I said "others?"
You cited Ernst Zundel as an example to support your assertion that Ken
McVay "doesn't... appreciate the right to free speech". Do you have
evidence to back up that claim, O Gutless One, or are you going to
continue to tap-dance under cover of your weasel words?
Allan Matthews
In article <6neubn$2...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, admitted habitual liar
"Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury, cowering ineffectively as usual behind his
bill...@throckmorton.com sock puppet, spews...
>In article <jeff_brown-01...@38.27.216.199>,
>jeff_...@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>>In article <6ne12j$5...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>>
>>>You are just another pantywaist hiding out in the closet are you?
>
>> "...I examine the manner of the debate and conduct. I know who is
>> telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics employed- the liar
>> always attacks the opposing person..."
>
>Quit distorting my words Jeffrey!
Gee, isn't this "Billy Bob Throckmorton" the same fellow that has
repeatedly claimed that he is not our ol' pal "Sieg Heil" Scottie
Bradbury?
How, then, Mr. "Throckmorton," can Scott Bradbury's words be yours as
well if you are not him?
But then, since Scottie is known to be severely challenged in the logical
thought department, I guess that I'll have to answer for him. They can't
be. Way to go, moron. Another phony persona bites the dust.
Of course, this sort of obvious trip up is to be expected from "Sieg
Heil" Scottie. He is, afterall, by his own admission, blessed with
mental powers that could only manage to get him through the 5th grade.
For someone of his truly stunted mental capacity the problem of keeping
all of his very, very numerous lies straight is clearly far too big a
burden for him to handle.
This isn't the first he's made this very mistake, either. Remember his
"John Davis" sock puppet that claimed that Scottie died on Aug. 15, 1997?
That little charade lasted not much longer than this current one before
Scottie forgot who he was pretending to be again and got his pronouns
mixed up.
Now, perhaps, Scottie can tell us just what he was trying to achieve when
he and "billy bob" responded to "each other's" posts?
Actually, all that really remains to be seen now is how long Scottie can
go before he injects his fascination with homosexual oral sex or his
penchant for ridiculous ad hominem attacks into this discussion.
ROTFLMAO!!
Stay lame Scottie - its very entertaining!
And remember kids - Don't be like "Sieg Heil" Scottie - Stay in School!
allan
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