Unmasking a Mirjafforian Forgery
mwzaman
Manik
Date: December 10, 2001
By posting the fake e-mail, you have acted as a forger. You have tried
your mockery again. Your trickery did not work. Your thievery didn't
work before. You want us to beleive your words. Your proof or evidence
in support of your claim is not acceptable. Is it a proof? This is a
proof of what? It proves nothing other than that you have e-mailed
yourself to YOU. Your fake e-mail does not at all prove that A.H.
Jaffor Ullah is not ABUL Kasem. It proves that you have deliberately
committed a forgery.
Dr. Jaffor ullah, you have no crediblity. Therefore, your words cut no
ice. Your words of mouth and your cow e-mail is the result of forgery.
Your cow response is worthless.
I am challenging you in this open public forum that you, A.H. Jaffor
ullah, are Abul Kasem. Prove it that you are not Abul Kasem. What
about Abul Hasanat (or Nath1!). Prove it that you are not Shiraj
Uddin Shopon (I wonder why you have so much fancy for capital U!).
Prove it if you are not Rezwan (may be UDDIN)Khokan? You have used
these fake names to malign your own motherland. You have used these
phony names to malign your own religion. You have used these false
names to defame other individuals. You have recently disseminated
blatant lies about the fair results of the recently held elections in
Bangladesh with the sole intent of creating confusion and doubt about
the legitimacy of an elected Government in the international
community. SHAME on, Dr. Jaffor Ullah.
Dr. Jaffor Ullah, let me tell you something: there are enough
indivduals among the readersto who can deal with the sources of Abul
Kasem's e-mails. Do you remember what shakil Sarwar did to you? He had
quite effectively pulled your pants down by providing evidence that
you have been using various fake names to distors facts. When will you
learn your lesson.
Please listen to what I did do in the meantime: I have asked several
responsible professional individuals working in SYDNEY (notin SIDNEY
which is actually located in a remote area near New Orleans where a
self-confessed recluse Bangladeshi secularist lives)to look for an
individual named Abul Kasem (from Bangladesh) in an and around SYDNEY
who is holding a teaching jobe there. The response from them was
negative. No person named Abul Kasem who lives in and around Sydney
could be identified. Therefore, it is a blatant lie to claim that Abul
Kasem realyy exists. J. Ullah, You are Abul Kasem who lives near
Orleans (since you live in a neighborhood which is located East of New
Orleans-- I don't know if the name of that township is Sidney. Only
you can tell if the name of that township is SIDNEY. I don't know
itfor sure.
Dr. Jaffor ullah, you have falsely accused ME of maligning your family
members. Your claim is preposterous. I have never insulted any of your
family members. Since I know some of your family members, I want to
tell you something: I never uttered a bad word about any of your
family members. They are decent people. One of your sisters and her
husband are my dear friends. They don't need my testimonials. They are
both professionally and socially well established. I am fond of them,
and I have fond memories of them and their children. I respect them. I
saw some comments in some posts about them. Those are nothing but
gross distortions.
Dr. Jaffor ullah, how can you then accuse me of maliging your family
members? I can't be responsible for the contents of other posters in
SCB with whom I have NO connection at all. J. Ullah, you don't not
have any idea about my deep sense of dignity or my personal
ethical/moral standars. But don't judge others with your own lowly
anchored standards. I don't condone such indecencies in private
orpublic.
Having said this, let me conclude this post with my concluding
thoughts about you: Dr. Ullah, you are an indecent man. I have drawn
this coonclusion long time back. You have no respect for other human
beings. Yes, I rebutt your position on an issue or an individual with
pungent comments. But I don't hold others responsible for your
tasteless comments about me or others. Your misbehavior has nothing to
do with your false claim of being a secularist. Yet, you can't prove
that your misbehavior has anything to do with SECULARISM. You are not
a secularist of kind.
Dr. Ullah, you have a big mouth. That's why you talk too much. You
have a long nose. That's why you have a knack for dirt. You suffer
from inferiority complex. That's why you desperately look around for
recognition. You are intolerant. That's you can't tolerate any
criticism. You are ignorant. That's why you get excited with your
half-baked information. You are not a writer. That's why you have been
"penning" your "Cow Essays" with an objective to be recognized as some
kind of a "writer" (you fondly call yourself "Scribe" even though the
word is archaic). You have no sense of proportion. You are angry with
me because I have told the truth: a writer of a 'COW Essay' (Goru
Rochona) a 'Cow Letter'(Goru Chithi) at best be called characterized
as "COW ESSAYIST OR COW WRITER (GORU LEKHOK). Dr. J. Ullah, I know it
for sure that you don't agree with such appropriate characterization.
That's your choice.
I hope this is enough to unmask the Mirjafforian brand of forgery.
Sincerely,W.zaman Manik
Following is a sample of MIRJAFFORIAN FORGERY:
"Jaffor Ullah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<0ITQ7.130590$8n4.9...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...
> This I have never done before. I will paste the e-mail I just received from
> Mr. Abul Kasem. This expatriate Eslami Brigade (EMB) headed by Mullah
> Tarek, his sidekick from Aussie land (Md. S.R.) and the rest of his gang
> members (with two junkyard dogs from America) had been telling everyone who
> would listen to their pleas that I write articles posing as Abul Kasem and
> myriad other names. Some of the id numbers from this e-mail were
> obliterated to protect the privacy of Mr. Kasem. This gang is very vicious,
> lest we forget.> > Well, here is the e-mail from him.> >
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> From: "Abul Kasem" <abu...@hotmail.com>
> To: Jaf...@netscape.net, Jha...@bellsouth.net> Bcc:
> Subject: Allah's Throne ----------New Essay from Abul Kasem
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:27:11 +0000> Mime-Version: 1.0
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> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2001 00:27:11.0874 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[68FA3620:01Cxxxxxx]> > > Dear Jaffor Bhai;>
> Please review the attached essay and publish it in NFB.> > Best regards>
> Abul Kasem> > Pease acknowledge the attachment
Jaffor Ullah
I received an authentic e-mail from Abul Kasem of Sydney last night, which I
saved it. Since this guy Mohammad Waheeduzzaman knows so much about me
through his Eslami Monobhabaponno Bangalee (EMB) friends in New Orleans,
then why not send one of them to my house to check the authenticity of the
e-mail. I cannot generate an e-mail from Sydney, Australia, could I?
How about this $ 100,000 bet? I am a man of word. I say that if anyone can
prove that I fabricated Abul Kasem's e-mail (the one I reproduced in this
newsgroup on December 9), I will give the sum of money ($ 100,000) to Dr.
M.W. Zaman Manik.
However, if it turns out that I have a genuine e-mail from Abul Kasem from
Sydney, which I reproduced in this newsgroup, then will he reciprocate the
challenge? I will donate the entire sum and add extra $10,000 to it from my
pocket to few primary schools of Dr. M.W. Zaman's choice. Fair enough?
We will see who is a fabricator and who is a truth teller. I could ruffle
feathers through my writing, but I am not a fabricator or lier. My parents
taught me one thing right. Never lie. Let us see how this reprobate
reacts. No more Bazaira Chilla-Chilli!!! SCB readers are tired of seeing
your derisive scribbling.
PS. Did anyone read my article entitled "The Spoilers"?
(http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/dec/10/f10122001.htm#A1) Is this
article a "Cow Essay"?
"mwzaman" <mwz...@aol.com> wrote in message
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mwzaman
elections. He can't accept the fact that Khaleda Zia is the elected
Prime Minister of Bangladesh. What does he do now? He is using fake
names such as R.S. Khokan, SU Shopon or A. Kasem to malign the elected
Government through dissmination of falsehoods and conjectures. Let the
readers make their own determination about the credibility of the
tone, tenor and contents of these cow letters. A.H. Jaffor ullah might
say that he had received two "Goru- Chithi" though his own "Cow
E-Mails." Shame on you.
Following Goru Chithi of A.H. Jaffor ullah is reprinted from NFB,
Dec. 11, 2001:
A.H. Jaffor ullah's Goru Chithi # 3
Two months have already passed and what do we see?
By Rezwan Siddique Khokon (alias A.H. Jaffor ullah)
College Park, Maryland, USA
E-mail: kho...@att.net
On October 1, 2001, the Bangladeshis witnessed election caricature
under Syedali and Latifali (the term invented by Shabbir Ahmed).
Thanks Shabbir! The duo damaged the prestige of election commission
and caretaker government to enhance the prestige of Razakar (retired)
par excellence Go Azam, Moitta Razakar (retired) and the politically
barren Madam. Maulana Go Azam said in an interview with the daily
Inquilab that the Syedali's ideas helped the four-party fundamentalist
alliance win the election.
Go Azam warned that the popularity of Awami League is still high.
Awami League could have defeated the four-party fundy alliance if the
election commissioner Syedali did not come up with various ideas. Go
Azam further said that he had discussion with Syedali after the
election. Syedali regretted that he had more ideas in his mind but he
was not able to implement them for various reasons.
Latifali called Go Azam and said that he did not think that he could
do such a marvelous job in the election. Nevertheless, Go Azam
expressed his utmost satisfaction over the performance of the
Caretaker Government and the Chief Election Commissioner. When Go Azam
get satisfied, then the people of Bangladesh get worried. It is kind
of a reciprocal variation. The reason is clear. There is a long bitter
history of these killers in the memory of the people of Bangladesh.
Then one may ask, "How did they get elected?" Do not make mistake.
It is not the popular votes but the ideas and steps taken by the duo
Latifali and Syedali helped the killers come to power in Bangladesh.
All the killer Razakars and their leader Go Azam are satisfied. People
of Bangladesh saw their satisfaction in another election held in 1971
under killer Niazi. They were satisfied with then Chief Election
Commissioner Justice Sattar and killer Niazi – who destroyed the
political system. Surely, they are satisfied now with Justice Latifur
and Chief Election Commissioner Syed. Are they all now satisfied for
the post-election violence by their cadres on minorities and
opposition?
History tells that the Justices of the higher court, the military, and
the bureaucrats destroyed Bangladesh's system of government
systematically and methodically. Have we forgotten so easily that the
Justices legitimized military rule. Not once but twice. They
collaborated with the military rulers by neglecting their
constitutional role to oppose it. The bureaucrats used the opportunity
of military rule to expand their power base. This time one Justice and
one bureaucrat at the center and army at the field level worked in a
joint venture to produce an anti-people election result. The outcome
is becoming clearer as time is passing by.
The inept new government will be heavily dependent on the bureaucrats.
The first committee the new government formed was a committee of the
bureaucrats. The sixty-plus cabinet body will enjoy the Ministerial
luxury doing basically nothing important. Many of the Ministers have
no portfolio whatsoever! There are more ministers than the number of
ministries. So, what will the ministers do?
The head of the government "Prime Minister Madam" is busy with her
beautification scheme. Have you seen lately the display of those
colorful saris? Ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait few more months. She is
keen to be remembered by the people as the "Beauty Queen Madam" of
Bangladesh. Now she tells us that she is ready for another Umra Hajj!
It seems like the Umrah Hajj and self-beautification go hand-in-hand.
Her noticeable cosmetic changes of her face although getting better by
the days; she does not have any clue to what her ministers will be
doing? Perhaps too much time is being spent on choice of saris and
wardrobe. Thus, very little time is left for Bangladesh. Have you seen
the decoration of her office where she welcomes the foreign
dignitaries? They are so colorful that one may think that it is the
waiting room of a salon.
Our madam because of her preoccupation with many "important" decisions
such as the "tasteful" decoration of her office hardly has any time
left for her few dozens ministers. She even chose her sister Chocolate
Apa (did she have any academic background?) as one of her ministers.
Her jewels among the ministers are Tariqul Islam who is a suspect in a
murder related crime and she also chose Amanullah Aman, who is
involved in many criminal cases, as a minister.
Thus, she showed her mental acuteness and aplomb through her selection
of some cabinet members. If these are some of her choice selection,
then almighty Allah will not be able to help Bangladesh achieve
self-sufficiency in food and wipe out terror and crime from this
nation.
The net result will be that the country is going down into a deep hole
very fast. Bangladesh's people will not have to wait a long time to
see all the gains of yesteryears evaporated in a short time. The signs
of crisis are everywhere: in MP Hostel, in Universities, in villages,
in hospitals and in public toilets. Does Awami League need to go for
strike? Nyet! There will be no need for this.
Sheikh Hasina would be better off not calling any hartal. Before long,
the people of the country will desperately look for an alternative.
Bangladesh's citizens will be so fed up with the governance of this
bodacious Madam that they will boot her out of the office. This is
gonna happen sooner than you think. All eyes are now on our Madam. Let
us see how she delivers the election time promises. A crime-free
Bangladesh? You can bet on that one. Where is Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar now
that we need him in this NFB forum? (This Gru Chithi is reprinted from
NFB, Dec. 11, 2001)
(This a seminal Goru Chithi, written by A.H. Jaffor ullah. Reprinted
from NEWS FROM BANGLADESH, Dec. 11, 2001)
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Jffor ullah's 'cow chithi' # 4
Off She goes again!
By Shiraj Uddin Shopon (alias A.H. Jaffior Ullah, Ph.D.)
New York City
The Bangladesh Observer showed a color photograph in today's front
page that everyone should see. The photograph was taken in front of
ZIA International Airport before Mrs. Khaleda Zia starts for a
pilgrimage to Mecca for her second Umrah Haj. In the picture was shown
a few well-dressed men all smiling.
One of them is probably the ambassador of Saudi Arabia to Bangladesh
who donned a flowing Arabic dress with Kiffiya on his head. The Prime
Minister of Bangladesh was also seen in a beguiling pose. Quite a
remarkable photograph.
It is worth noting that this second Umrah Haj by the PM of Bangladesh
comes within 60 days (plus minus a few days) of her taking office.
Allah only knows how many Umrah Haj she performed this year. After
winning the parliamentary election of October 1, she went to Mecca to
perform the first one as a PM-elect. This time she would get a royal
treatment from S.A. Government.
If for some reason the King cannot make it to the airport, someone
very influential from the House of Saud will attend the airport no
doubt. The PM will get a real royal hospitality. The news will be
flashed in the evening news of the government-run TV and in the next
morning Dhaka's most newspaper including The Inquilab and The New
Nation will print the news with color photograph on the front page.
This kind of Islamic news sells paper well all throughout Bangladesh.
This well-scripted Umrah Haj by our Islamic Prime Minister comes at a
time when Bangladesh is bleeding in all economic fronts. Thousands of
Garment factories all over Bangladesh have closed their front gate
shut. A big lock is now hanging on the gate. Once the factories were
humming and the garment workers could be seen milling around the front
gate. Now all the cacophony is gone.
Those factories look more like a ghost building. With no income coming
from the RMG factories, many of the girls working there have returned
to their villages. Bad days have fallen on them. Their parents in the
village are having sleepless night. Only Allah knows when those
factories will re-open for business.
In the meantime, they will be bracing for hard times. But does this
bleak scenario haunt our Prime Minister? Probably not. She is busy
with her plan to go for another pilgrimage to Mecca. Her Akherat
(afterlife) is more important to her than the plight of RMG factory
workers. The unemployed RMG factory workers may have to go to bed half
fed. But our Prime Minister has other priorities. She is shuffling the
administration like a schoolgirl who plays with her dolls constantly
rearranging them without much satisfaction. She gets her earthly
delight by locking up a renowned freedom fighter who is also a 1971
activist.
The Black Law PSA which she denounced in the last 5 years has become
an object of desire suddenly. She is a power hungry person obsessed
with the thought of repression and control. She promised to rid the
nation of terrorism and crime. The reality, however, is quite the
opposite. The lawlessness in the main street is a fact of life. In
today's NFB, we saw a photograph showing the grotesque dead bodies of
4 or 5 young men. Street justice was meted out because the crowd
thought they were Chintaikaris (petty purse snatchers).
The crime rate has grown substantially since the caretaker Government
took charge in July this year. There is no abatement to it. The crime
rate has even escalated after the new government took the charge in
the beginning of October. The party mastans and cadres have taken
control of all the bus depots, entry points to the city, hat-bazars,
college dorms, and every other place that generates easy money. The
newspapers are awash with the news of crime and repression against the
minorities.
Nevertheless, the PM and her ministers are very tightlipped about the
whole thing. They are pretending like everything is running smoothly.
The home minister told the news media that there was no repression
committed against the minorities. Then the stance shifted a little.
The minister then said that the Awami League cadres were committing
the crime against the minorities to create trouble for the new
government and to destabilize the nation. It looks like this party is
only after the power to govern. They do not care very much if the
minority population suffers or the garment factory workers have no job
or no job prospect in the days to come.
If the Prime Minister were a keen observer, she would have seen a very
different picture of the nation. She would have seen a recession
plagued economy, empty and silenced RMG factories, bruised and
mutilated bodies of our minority community members, etc. She neglects
her prime duty but she wants to go to Mecca to perform her Umrah Haj.
She knows very well that the sick economy of Bangladesh will not get
well by her going to Mecca.
The Saudis have their own problem now in the wake of September 11 WTC
demolition. Oil prices are plummeting now and the oil revenues will be
hard hit. The Saudis cannot give alms to Bangladesh as it did during
the reign of two army dictators. Therefore, our PM should take into
cognizance all these facts. She should not delude herself thinking
that the Saudis will open the faucet of petro-dollars one more time to
help out the Miskin nation of Bangladesh.
If our colorful PM would live in reality, she would have scrapped her
plan to go for the second Umrah Haj to Mecca. She would have called
several meetings of the economists, university professors, and the
industrialists to chart a course to weather the bad times.
Nevertheless, this beauty conscious airhead does not like to think
hard. She is into flimsy stuff. To her, going to Mecca for her Akherat
is more important than the fate of this wobbly nation.
Therefore, off she goes again to Mecca with her entourage. Guess who
is going to foot the bill? (This cow letter is reprinted from NFB,
Dec. 11, 2001)
"Jaffor Ullah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<ZZeR7.114841$S93.5...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>...
K-Rahman
> My Memorandum to Cow Essayist A.H. Jaffor Ullah, Ph.D.From: W.Zaman
> Manik
> Date: December 10, 2001
(Deleted)
>
> word is archaic). You have no sense of proportion. You are angry with
> me because I have told the truth: a writer of a 'COW Essay' (Goru
> Rochona) a 'Cow Letter'(Goru Chithi) at best be called characterized
> as "COW ESSAYIST OR COW WRITER (GORU LEKHOK).
Or perhpas "BOT TOLAR CHOTI LEKHOK".
> Dr. J. Ullah, I know it
> for sure that you don't agree with such appropriate characterization.
I have never seen such a weird character like jafforullah before.
This kind of character usually comes out of total intellectual
bankruptcy coupled with boundless intellectual aspirations. The
reulsing outcome is the sort of psychopathic behavior as you see
Jafforuallah demonstrating.
Mohammed Kalam
October 1, 2001?
MKAL707
SCB bibek
mwz...@aol.com (mwzaman) wrote in message news:<46db51ba.01121...@posting.google.com>...
mwzaman
> Since when you turned your coat, Mr. mwzaman?
> October 1, 2001?
>
> MKAL707
> SCB bibek
I have not changed side. Rather, I am on the side of the truth. Please
read what Farida Majid had to say about A.H. Jaffor Ullah and his
cohorts, the self-serving secularists:
[Reprinted from News From Bangladesh, December 20, 2001]
Talibanization of Cyberspace by Crypto-Islamists
Farida Majid
In the wake of the departure of George Harrison, I am full of memories
of that electrifying Concert for Bangladesh at Madison Square Garden
in 1971, which I had the great fortune to attend. Throughout the nine
months of the liberation war I had traveled in the USA and Europe
working ceaselessly for the cause of an independent Bangladesh and
creating public opinion against the atrocities of Pakistani army on
the innocent civilians of East Pakistan. The warmth, care and goodwill
expressed at the Concert for Bangladesh were echoed all over the
world.
To the utter consternation of Nixon, Kissinger and Yahya team, George
Harrison’s "Bangladesh" hit the top of the chart. It was a
thrilling moment, in the midst of all the sad news emanating from the
battlefront, because even the Western journalists covering the civil
war in East Pakistan were not yet using the word "Bangladesh." I want
to remind everyone that this country was born on the crest of not only
Banglaee’s dream of freedom, democracy and secularism, but the
good wishes and cheers of all the world’s freedom-loving people.
It is unfortunate, and all the sadder for that beginning, that
Bangladesh failed to fulfill those dreams we fought for and for which
the whole world had cheered. Through successive autocratic rulers, the
country never had the graciousness to thank for or return that good
will to the world. Let alone thanking George Harrison, no government
of Bangladesh even acknowledged the patriotic efforts of the two of
East Bangla’s most precious gems of all times – Pandit
Ravi Shankar and Ustad Ali Akbar Khan – both of whom were
initiators of and performers at the Concert for Bangladesh.
Today we have a government that is made up of those very foes who
opposed our right to claim our freedom. With the blood of innocent
children, women and men of 1971 in their hands, two of the Jamaatis
are ministers in Khaleda Zia’s cabinet. Other Islamists hold
various important portfolios. Reminders of the muktijuddha do not stir
noble emotions in anyone any more. This is due mainly to the
Awami-leaguers’ false over-association of the liberation war
with them.
People are so fed-up of Awami mis-rule and "Zatir pita Bangabondu"
that they frown, turn up their noses, roll their eyes or fling their
wrists at the very mention of 1971. Islamists have now installed
themselves in power with unprecedented confidence. Like the Cheshire
Cat’s in the Wonderland, the ear-to-ear grin of the Islamists
hangs in the air of Bangladesh as it fills with the cries of pain and
deprivation rising from the defenseless Hindu communities victimized
by the Islamist criminals.
Not that there is no secular-minded BNP leader. Most of them, Khaleda
Zia included, are not exactly devout Muslims as we well know. But they
are installed in power by the Islamists, and hence are gagged and
bound against making any comment on the atrocities committed by the
Islamist goondas on the hapless Hindus. Without the Islamist support
BNP is nothing but a dolled up woman in a chiffon sari. Too
apparently, to maintain this vital support, she has to trundle off to
Saudi Arabia every month to perform Umrah. Who knows what lurks behind
the all too apparent!
Besides their firm clutch on the heads of the present administration,
the Islamists have foot soldiers parading in two very disparate but
well-coordinated fronts. One cache of cadres is unleashed across the
nation to wreak unspeakable havoc of communal killing, raping and
looting. Islamist leaders in Dhaka keep a straight face muttering
patronizing platitudes about the duty to protect the
‘jaan-maal’ of the Hindus.
As long as we have Islamists in Bangladesh, Jehadists in Pakistan and
the Hinduists in India, the dreaded specter of communalism as a potent
political tool will continue to scourge the general populace of the
subcontinent. Aiding and abetting the Islamists is this other, newer
front presently operating in the cyberspace.
This lot of Islamist collaborators thinly covers up their poisonous
activity of spreading the message of the Islamists in the curious form
of Islam-bashing. Therefore, I call them crypto-Islamists. Mimicking
the Islamist claim, crypto-Islamists define secularism to mean
something doggedly anti-religious, virulently anti-Islamic. They call
themselves "secular humanists," even though their pompous
pronouncements contain not a smidgen of understanding of either
secularism or humanism.
A couple of years ago, foolishly taking their self-description of
"secular humanists" in good faith, I tried to point out that
secularism means pluralism, peaceful coexistence of many religions,
faiths and ethnic cultures, and according to that definition of
secularism, Muslim Bengal had always been a secular place. At no point
in Bengal’s history Islam was declared a state religion. The
group roundly blasted me for committing the crime of mentioning
‘culture’ and ‘history’.
There is no arguing with these crypto-Islamists. They are the ardent
followers, the students (taliban) of the Bush-bin Laden School of
Dogmatism – that "either you are with us or against us" variety.
Violently allergic to the concepts of culture, history of any kind or
of any place, evolution, civilization, art, music, social studies,
grammar, rhetoric or logic, the crypto-Islamists would pounce upon
anyone who broaches these topics with the wrath matching that of their
Islamist bretheren upon the Hindus.
The ground-level Islamists at least have a political agenda behind
their Islam-touting game. Scratch their Islamic surface, and you will
discover that they really do not care much for their religion. The
‘Alem-samaaj’ or the traditional religious establishment
of Bangladesh have denounced the weird and un-Islamic ideology of the
Islamists and have vigorously protested against the Jamaati antics in
the name of religion. The crypto-Islamists of cyberspace, amidst all
their Islam-bashing, oddly, never have a harsh word against the
Jamaat. Perhaps in their vision of the world through a pinhole they
cannot distinguish one from the other.
Or perhaps – and this possibility looms increasingly large
– they are the undercover agents of the Islamists employed to
spread the propaganda that Jamaat and Islam are one and the same.
There is only one Islam – period – no ifs or buts or
what-abouts.
Crypto-Islamists were conceived in 1993, and if one recalled the
sequence of events, one can understand why the Islamists needed them.
Under the able and valiant leadership of shahid-janani Jahanara Imam,
Muktijuddher Chetana Bastabayan o Ghatok-Dalal Nirmul Committee had
successfully launched a nation-wide and among the Diaspora
Bangladeshis in London, New York and elsewhere demanding the trial of
the Bangalee collaborators of Pakistani army and those who committed
crimes against humanity in1971.
Wherever Jahanara Imam went she was greeted by huge jubilant crowds.
Members of the Alem-samaaj joined our campaign and some of them toured
the countryside going from mosque to mosque urging religious leaders
to be vigilant against the pollution of religion with the dirty
politics of the Moududibadi Jamaat. The enthusiasm of the people
wanting the Dalals of 1971 to be brought to justice was truly
fantastic and, looking back I can say, it was at an all time high. The
fundamentalists brought out a procession or two protesting our
movement, but it was clear that they were really feeling the pinch.
I had worked ceaselessly for the Nirmul Committee that time, traveling
between New York, London and Dhaka. A chunk of my time was occupied
also in joining and speaking at meetings and rallies held by an
organization that we formed called Concerned South Asians. I also
joined in the activities of our Indian colleagues of
Samprodayikata-virodhi Andolon.
We marked the first anniversary of the demolition of Babri Masjid by
mounting a giant exhibit by Sahmat, an anti-communalism group from
India, and a two-day festival of music, dance and poetry readings at
Columbia University. After two decades of hopelessness, I was
beginning to nurse anew the hope of a closure of the wounds of 1971.
Just at this juncture Taslima Nasrin, flushed with her success as a
column writer, decided that she wanted more limelight. I had liked her
columns on women’s rights, and actively supported her attack on
Moksudul Momenin by writing a long scholarly article on the
mistranslation of the Qur’anic verses pertaining to women.
However, I did not realize then that Nasrin was totally incapable of
making the distinction between secondary religious literature and a
primary religious text like the Qur’an. She just lumped
Qur’an, Hadith, popular pulp religious literature and rolled
them into something she called dharmo, which she then claimed in a
loud voice was a very bad thing. Coming from a culturally
unenlightened family, understandably, religion was a bit of a
‘big deal’ to her. Limited exposure to the more
enlightened section of our society led her to believe that atheism was
a novelty.
So attacking Islam seemed like a jolly good idea to earn some infamy
accompanied by spotlight. She was going to be the first female
Bangalee atheist the world ever saw! A Johnny-come-lately to the
enlightened Muslim Bangalee society that she really never knew from
her pinhole view of it..
She began attacking the Qur’an (or rather, the Bangla
translation of it, which is all she could read) and got the spotlight
she craved. Islam-bashing adds fuel to the fire of fundamentalism,
re-energizes their zeal. You don’t have to be a rocket-scientist
to make that simple cause-and–effect connection. Nasrin was what
the Islamists were craving for to get them out of their doldrums. She
was their Savior incarnate sent for their deliverance by the almighty
Allah. As a reward for this deliverance the Islamists elevated her to
the status of Salman Rushdie. The triumphant Islamists have never
looked back from that point to this. Now they are at the peak of their
political success, thanks to the brilliant work of the crypto-Islamist
Nasrin!
I cannot for the life of me fathom the degree of depravity that makes
someone speak abusively of a particular religion, its scripture, its
prophet, its ‘tradition’ its world-wide followers. It is
so inherently inhuman, racist, and unspeakably stupid! I am loath to
talk about my private life, but I must emphatically note here about my
family’s unflinching dedication to liberal principles and high
idealism, whose inculcation in me would prevent me from engaging in
this scurrilous activity of insulting a religion.
As a child I was happily a tomboy, free to romp in the fields and
woods, climb trees and splash in those splendid community ponds of
Narayanganj and swim to my heart’s content. My father and my
mamas were atheists, but we children were instructed not to speak ill
of any religion. Such instructions were not actually specified, they
were automatically implied.
We are a bi-communal family since my Boromami is a Hindu who never
converted. Her family in Dumdum, and my family were always very close
because we are culturally similar. Cultural affinity, not religion, is
what makes the difference. I do not suppose the reason why I am not
close to the families of my other two mamis is because they are
Muslim. It is just that we don’t quite match each other in our
cultural outlooks or lifestyles.
My nana, Kabi Golam Mostafa, the author of Biswanabi, whom Awami
Leaguers mischievously and anachronistically labeled as a "razakar,"
(poor guy died in 1964, for God’s sake!) was in real life the
most secular of men. Ever a loving and caring grandfather, he was more
interested in the progress I was making in my classical singing
lessons or the latest poem I wrote rather than my religious
upbringing. His delightful letters to the two of us contained humor
and playful but intelligent bantering, hardly any mention of
Allah-rasul. (I can produce these letters, written in my nana’s
exquisite hand, as documents, as opposed to Nasrin;s undocumented,
fictionalized autobiography).
By the age of ten I was well read in Bangla and English, and could
look at a picture of a painting and tell whether it was by
Michaelangelo, Raphael or Rembrandt, or whether it was by Gaugin,
Matisse or van Gogh. If I did not know enough suras by heart to say a
proper namaj, it was not an important failure. My extended family was
pretty pleased with the direction their first born was heading. Being
a Muslim female was never a problem for me. Islam never posed a threat
of oppression to me, nor was it an impediment that stunted my
intellectual and artistic growth.
So, when the opportunity came in my Graduate School days at New York
University, I eagerly snatched it and took the courses in Arabic
language which would enable me to at least read and understand the
text of the Qur’an in the original. I hasten to add that this
was not done as a ‘born again Muslim’ gesture. One
compelling reason was that I got a Federal Govt. scholarship for
studying Arabic.
The other reason was my desire to take on the offensive mullahs who
spread unsubstantiated claims in the name of religion. I was bred by
my family as a modern human being, a citizen of the world, so I had no
trouble living either in the East or the West.
These few words about my personal life are necessitated by the false
impression created by the endless personal life-story-telling by the
crypto-Islamist Nasrin as if her life-story were the norm of every
Bangalee Muslim home. No, not every woman in Bangladesh has had
Nasrin’s sordid, repressive life. And there is no telling
whether she is telling the truth. She had been caught red-handed lying
by many reporters. Who knows her family and who can testify to the
repression that really occurred?
My family is less obscure than Nasrin’s and hence I felt I
don’t have to prove anything by talking about my family life.
But Nasrin has to prove something. Again and again, ad nausea, in
Bangla and now in English, we are given an account of her life, an
account of the ‘bhando peer’ Amirullah to whose magic
Nasrin’s mother became spellbound.
Why couldn’t she get her mother unspellbound from the
Peer’s magic sooner? I have chased a few ‘bhando
peers’ out of my family’s compound in my girlhood. Nasrin
urges us, almost by clobbering on our heads, to believe that this fake
religious man has everything to do with Islam. This is what Islam is
all about and that is so because Islam is a religion like no other
(notice the Islamist drift!).
It is a pity that she has remained the same ignorant snob to this day.
Not a single lesson has been learned by her, no progress, no growth,
no change whatsoever in her incommensurate pattern of thinking; in
sum, nothing has been added to knowledge in the course of her
life’s ups and downs. She keeps repeating the story of peer
Amirullah over and over again in exactly the same way she did ten,
twelve, or fifteen years ago.
It just so happens that the ‘bhando peer’ Amirullah of
Mymensingh has as much to do with Islam as the ‘bhando’
priest of Catholic Ireland has to do with Christianity, or the
‘bhando’ bishop in Protestant Germany or England has to do
with Christianity, or the ‘bhando’ monk in Greece has to
do with the Orthodox Church, or the ‘bhando’ rabbi in
Israel has to do with Judaism, or the ‘bhando’ sadhu in
Benares has to do with Hiinduism. I’ve known a few
‘bhando’ religious women too.
The world literature abounds with the stories of their treachery and
wily ways in the name of religion. Some of these stories are
hilarious, tales in Kahlil wa Dimna, Panchatantra, Chaucer’s
Canterbury Tales, or Boccaccio’s Decameron, – we laugh at
them. We laugh; we celebrate the human ingenuity of these thugs, the
same human spirit and imagination that created the edifices of these
magnificent religions. Isn’t there something seriously wrong
when a group that calls itself "secular humanists" is completely blind
to the very existence of humanity that comprises each religion?
Islam, without its living, breathing human followers, like any other
religion, is simply an abstraction. In his novel, The Satanic Verses,
Salman Rushdie wanted to bring out this human face of Islam. I like
the novel for that reason, and wrote a long essay in its defense.
Rushdie, whose life was infinitely more seriously threatened by the
Islamists than Nasrin’s ever was, has the common sense to
discriminate the Islamists from Islam. Just the other day he reminded
us that the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims are not all
‘Qur’an analysts’, and that acts of terrorism are
carried out by a crazed handful of backward-looking bunch who are
against all forms of modernism.
Crypto-Islamist Kamran Mirza strongly disagrees with such a statement.
Every Muslim gets his or her Islamic teachings from Qur’an and
Hadiths. Says who? Says Kamran Taliban Mirza. He takes a lot of pride
in his self-proclaimed role of a Qur’an analyst. He is equipped
with Allama Yusouf Ali’s English translation published circa
1936 and a couple of Bangla translations of the Qur’an. This is
the base that constitutes all his bombast, all his peremptory
pronouncements against Islam. (I have about seven or eight English, at
least three Bangla translations, one of which is by Girishchandra Sen,
two in all Arabic and a shelf full of Arabic-English dictionaries,
Arabic grammar books and sundry other Arabic language related
materials.
There is also a shelf-full of secondary scholarly books. I do not call
myself a Qur’an analyst even though I carefully consult all my
resources when I’m required to make a reference to the
Qur’an). Mirza’s so called ‘analysis’ consists
of kicking the Qur’an, spitting on the character of the Prophet,
and tearing the text apart in a stupendously comical exhibition of
ignorance, malice and egoism befitting the mannerism of a true
Islamist. He is applauded for his heroics by a handful of faithful
followers. I am reminded of the lines in "Chhayabaji" by my favorite
poet, Sukumar Roy:
Ajgubi noi, Ajgubi noi, satyi e sob kathaa
Chhayar sathe juddha kore gaatre holo byathaa
Chhaya dhorar byabsaa kori, tao jano na bujhi
Roder chhaya, chander chhaya, harek rakom punji
Shamelessly, Kamran Taliban Mirza would then post the praises he has
received from his sycophants for his comical ‘chhayabaji’
or shadowboxing.
The all-consuming obsession of the crypto-Islamists with Islam and the
ensuing blindness and megalomania would put the one-eyed Mullah Omar
and bin Laden to shame. Not a week goes by without them posting some
infantile drivel on the Qur’an and Hadith. I wonder whether they
read anything other then the Qur’an and Hadith.
Do they read an Englash language newspaper, or is it against their
religion? Is reading a non-religious book against their religion? They
don’t really have the guts to talk against the real-life living
and breathing Islamists like Motiur Rahman Nizami. It is getting
increasingly clear that these crypto-Islamists work for their Islamist
bosses whom they serve slavishly.
Of what use is Islam-bashing? It has only made the Islamists of
Bangladesh proclaim themselves as the champions of Islam.
Islam-bashers have only succeeded in endorsing this position of the
Islamists. The over-zealot crypto-Islamists are now coming apart in
the very exercise of their zealotary. They are stepping out of their
closet, although they themselves are oblivious of the fact. Kamran
Taliban Mirza’s exhortation says it all.
Exactly like the Jamaat, and all other Islamists, he is the sole
purveyor of the "real Islam" and according to him, our Bangalee
"nani-dadi, bap-dada choudda purush" had it all wrong. He is going to
set us right – teach us the real, fallacy-proof Islam. He then
passionately declares, the one-eyed "Mullah Omar is doing everything
to please Allah and nobody else" (NFB, Nov. 30, 2001).
Please, can our nerves be spared? Is it not enough that the
crypto-Islamists efforts have helped install the Islamist govt. in
power in Bangladesh? Do we now have to have the Mullah Omar agent,
this Kamran Taliban Mirza sermonizing us on the cyberspace day in and
day out?
Prof Farida Majid writes from NY , USA , her e mail :
farida...@hotmail.com
(REPRINTED FROM NFB,DECEMBER 20, 2001]
Jaffor Ullah
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/messages)
The Talibanization of Bangladeshi Sisters
S.A. Montu
USA
E-mail : sa_m...@yahoo.com
Response to : http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/dec/20/d20122001.htm#A1
Hello world!! Well, I mean Islamic world, Wake up and smell the coffee, or
is it Sylethi Chaa? Time's up Rajakar Mians! Your days are numbered, not
because the Kaffirs are overwhelming you, but your worst nightmare is coming
to fruition!! Ha Ha, poetic justice indeed! The domain so overwhelmingly
dominated by the chosen "bandas" of Allah, is now being seriously challenged
by a "pherocious" band of smooth-talking, throat-cutting, hate-mongering,
secularism-preaching, Hindu-loving, Rajakar-hating, Freedom-fighting,
"Mujib-bashing", Burqua-wearing, emancipated Bangali Ramanis.
Our Bangali sisters have found their voices since Begum Khalida ascended the
throne of Bangladesh! That is, in my opinion a sign of great progress
indeed! Imagine what a dose of undiluted Islamic "madira" does for our
oppressed sisters! Perhaps, the great Hajarat Muhammad failed in
appreciating the sublime abilities of the "weaker" sex. Given the supreme
heroism what our great Jihadi Al Quaeda sepoys are displaying at the
maidan-e-jang of Afghanistan, it is not surprising that Allah and Mr.
Mohammed are huddled together over a TV Timeout, reconsidering the display
of supreme heroism of the Jihadi "boyz"!! Now that the demand for virgin
Houris has increased exponentially over the last couple of months, Allah is
obviously hard pressed in meeting his obligations. Hence a mid-way strategy
change is in order, and per Allah's empowerment of the Burqua brigade, we
see the likes of Farida Majid, Bula Kasem, and a horde of others impatiently
waiting along the sidelines to spring into action!
These "birongana romonis" are capable all right, and I do not have any
reasons to underestimate their indomitable spirits in inflicting massive
damage to whoever incurs their wrath. Clearly, Ms Taslima Nasrin got a
sampling of the vicious attack from our pious, secular, 7-different
Quoran-reading, freedom fighting, Rajakar eliminating sisters. Tch! Tch! Our
Farida Apa had to take up this unpleasant job of putting Taslima's
"falsehoods" and in so doing she had to painfully confess her sins of being
born in a family of well a known vernacular poet. She also had to mercifully
expose her intellectual faculties through her narration of her being a
recipient of a mighty Uncle Sam offered Scholarship to allow her the
opportunity to learn Arabic, and thus be able to confer with the higher
authority in behyast!
Sure, I believe her, when she claims to be a lover of the minority Hindus of
Bangladesh. Sure, I also believe her claims of being a true lover of free
Bangladesh. Why should I not, haven't she displayed her patriotism through
such remarkably insensitive quotes like "Zatir pita Bangabondu". I am sure I
believe her when she tells us that Kamran Mirza is a Taliban! Madam, believe
me, you have convinced us all! Please speak no more! We are overwhelmed with
your honest comparison of your superior intellectual faculties vis-à-vis
Taslima's. I certainly agree that everything she spoke and wrote was meant
to poison the mind and souls of the Bangladeshi society, and all her "ill
gotten" reputation should have been bestowed upon you! You, madam are the
true example of an emancipated, birangona Bangali Nari. More powers be
vested upon you by the almighty Allah, so that you continue to educate us
and the rest of the village idiots of Bangladesh, on the efficacy of being a
"true" secularist, with a slight touch of "Aurangazebish" Justice. Joi
Banglar Romoni, Joi Bangla!!
S.A. Montu.
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From: A. H. Jaffor Ullah <Jaffor@n...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:11 pm
Subject: An Open Letter to Ms. Farida Majid
Dear mukto-monas,
Here is a short response to the lengthy article of Ms. Farida Majid
published in NFB:
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/dec/20/d20122001.htm#A1
Jaffor Ullah
Jaf...@netscape.net
------------
An open letter to Ms. Farida Majid
Dear Farida Majid,
In your NFB piece on Dec 20, 2001, you wrote: "My nana, Kabi Golam Mostafa,
the author of Biswanabi, whom Awami Leaguers mischievously and
anachronistically labeled as a "razakar," (poor guy died in 1964, for God's
sake!) was in real life the most secular of men."
My response: Rabindranath Thakur did not have the audacity to call himself
Kabi Rabindranath Thakur. However, Jessore's favorite son used to call
himself Kabi Golam Mostafa. He used to sign his name: Kabi Golam Mostafa. Go
see some old books written by him. You will see in bold print - Kabi Golam
Mustafa. I am just wondering whether the first name of
your secular nana was Kabi.
Mrs. Majid, even you called your nana - Kabi Golam Mostafa.
Your long piece was hate-laden no doubt. If the idea was to lambaste (roast)
some secular folks in cyberspace, then you get A+++. Your piece had no theme
whatsoever. Similar to a dabbler in writing, you moved from topic to topic.
In coherency, you will score a miserable D. There was no single theme to
talk about. This is what is called a "Bikkhipto Chinta Sombolito Rochona" at
its best. The dark side of you overpowered your rational mind as you wrote
the piece. Your insouciant mind had to resort to pococurantism to cut Ms.
Nasrin and Mr. Mirza. There was no need for all that. Was this a SHTICK?
Your long tirade against secularists created a unnecessary tinhorn racket in
cyberspace. Above all, your sleight of hand had earned already many friends
who belonged to the other camp and who are sympathetic to BNP and its
four-party alliance. Quite a few of them have nothing but a
glowing encomium for your dexterity in deceptive writing.
With a friend like you, the secular force of Bangladesh hardly needs an
enemy.
Sincerely,
A.H. Jaffor Ullah
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mwzaman
discuss various issues. I like those individuals who take their time
to expose your mockery. I enjoy your cow essays for absurdities,
irrelevancies and uselessness. I also feel thrilled when you
“pen” your seminal cow essays on historical topics. I have
a knack for your voodoo history. There are other voodoos in the
Internet. Yet, you are the best.
I have carefully read Ms. Farida Majid’s well crafted and
provocative NFB commentary on the state of the self-declared
secularists. I know it for sure that you could not stomach such
frontal assault from a secularist with good track record. You were
stunned. Your timid response seems to be inadequate. Your pant is
down, Dr. Ullah.
In your mirjafforian open letter, you have miserably failed to refute
any (not even one) of the comments or conclusions of Farida Majid.
Your comments about Poet Ghulam Mustafa are irrelevant. Why? You have
missed Farida Majid’s arguments. The main thrust of Farida
Majid’s argument is that a genuine secularism allows diversity
and pluralism.
A.H. Jaffor ullah, you have neither a background nor the needed
attitude to understand that a religious person can also be a
secularist. For example, one of the most secularist leaders was
Maulana Bhashani. But he was also deeply religious man. In the same
vein, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad was both a religious man and a
secularist. Mahatma Ghandhi was a secularist leader. Yet, he was a
deeply religious man. There is then no contradiction between being a
religious person and a secular person. Unfortunately, Dr. Ullah you
don’t get it. That’s why you have totally missed Ms
Farida Majid’s thrust of arguments.
A.H. Jaffor ullah, you are not a secularist of any kind. Often you
have substituted indecency for secularism. That’s why you have
characterized Farida Majid’s criticism as
“deceptive.” Let me make it clear to you: there is
consensus among the readers that it is A.H. Jaffor ullah whose goru
rochonas are characterized by name-calling, name-dropping deception
and mockery.
A.H. jaffor Ullah, your writings lack COHERENCE. Your writings lack
CONSISTENCY. Your writings lack continuity of thought. In other words,
your writings don’t have any focus. Your behavior has thus far
demonstrated that you can Not concentrate on a particular theme or
topic. You change topics or themes--- your essays don’t have
introduction, middle, and conclusion. In fact, you start with
CONCLUSION and finish with Conclusion. There is little wonder why you
were reflecting on your own inconsistencies and inadequacies when you
said: “In coherency, you will score a miserable D. There was no
single theme to talk about. This is what is called a "Bikkhipto Chinta
Sombolito Rochona" at its best. The dark side of you overpowered your
rational mind as you wrote the piece. Your insouciant mind had to
resort to pococurantism to cut Ms. Nasrin and Mr. Mirza. There was no
need for all that. Was this a SHTICK.”
I found Farida Majid’s essay enormously instructive. It is bound
to have wide influence. Dr. Jaffor Ullah, are you the person who can
talk about “coherency” and “consistency” in
Ms. Farida Majid’s or some one else’s writings? A cow
essayist is always a cow essayist. A cow essayist writes cow essays on
absurd themes that are always characterized by incoherencies,
inconsistencies, indecencies, and inadequacies. Thanks. Sincerely,
W.Zaman Manik
Following Mirjaafforian Open Letter is reprinted from Mukta-Mona (I
hope this forum is open to all. Hopefully, this is not a Mirjafforian
brand of Mukta-Mona):
From: A. H. Jaffor Ullah <Jaffor@n...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:11 pm
Subject: An Open Letter to Ms. Farida Majid
Dear mukto-monas,
Here is a short response to the lengthy article of Ms. Farida Majid
published in NFB: http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/dec/20/d20122001.htm#A1
Jaffor Ullah
Jaf...@netscape.net
An open letter to Ms. Farida Majid
Dear Farida Majid,
In your NFB piece on Dec 20, 2001, you wrote: "My nana, Kabi Golam
Mostafa, the author of Biswanabi, whom Awami Leaguers mischievously
and anachronistically labeled as a "razakar," (poor guy died in 1964,
for God's sake!) was in real life the most secular of men."
My response: Rabindranath Thakur did not have the audacity to call
himself Kabi Rabindranath Thakur. However, Jessore's favorite son used
to call himself Kabi Golam Mostafa. He used to sign his name: Kabi
Golam Mostafa. Go see some old books written by him. You will see in
bold print - Kabi Golam Mustafa. I am just wondering whether the first
name of your secular nana was Kabi Mrs. Majid, even you called your
nana - Kabi Golam Mostafa.
Your long piece was hate-laden no doubt. If the idea was to lambaste
(roast) some secular folks in cyberspace, then you get A+++. Your
piece had no theme whatsoever. Similar to a dabbler in writing, you
moved from topic to topic. In coherency, you will score a miserable D.
There was no single theme to talk about. This is what is called a
"Bikkhipto Chinta Sombolito Rochona" at its best. The dark side of you
overpowered your rational mind as you wrote the piece. Your insouciant
mind had to resort to pococurantism to cut Ms. Nasrin and Mr. Mirza.
There was no need for all that. Was this a SHTICK?
Your long tirade against secularists created a unnecessary tinhorn
racket in cyberspace. Above all, your sleight of hand had earned
already many friends who belonged to the other camp and who are
sympathetic to BNP and its four-party alliance. Quite a few of them
have nothing but a glowing encomium for your dexterity in deceptive
writing.
With a friend like you, the secular force of Bangladesh hardly needs
an enemy.
Sincerely, A.H. Jaffor ullah
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Anamika_1971
What a compliment. Some perhaps would like to forget it - but for some there
is the haunted memory of 1971. And they were mothers and sisters of
Bangladesh, who suffered by the Pakistan Army and their allies.
When Mujib was so kind enough to grant general amnesty to the Pak Army and
local collaborators, he also declared these sisters as "birangona"s.
Poetic Justice indeed.
For all these years later, call someone a birangona for not agreeing with
your version of whatever.
For your record, Khaleda Zia is also an "official" birangona as she was in
Pakistani captivity during most of the war. That would be a husband who is a
Bir-Uttam and a wife who is Birangona - did anybody in Mujib's family go
near the frontlines?
I an concerned that so many of so-called intellectual Bangladeshi
secularists actually do not understand what that concept is all about.
Like, Mujib never understood what democracy was to practice it - neither any
pro-Mujib BAL member understood that concept. That makes me wonder if it
also works in reverse and like his followers, Mujib did not understand
secularism.
For you future reference, secularism is not bashing somebody for their
religious beliefs. Religious intolerance, the version you displayed, is also
a disregard of others "freedom of religion."
The authors preference to learn Arabic and follow her spiritual (as opposed
to having no religious belief) well-being is her right.
What is worse, not having any religious belief or having one?
Any particular one you prefer?
Perhaps there is Montu-badi set of guidelines one should follow?
And should a government or stupid ignorant similar to you have the right to
dictate/define what religious practices are ok and what are not?
Just like the Jamaat leadership needs to be prosecuted (over turning the
stupid decision to provide amnesty by biswas-ghatak Mujib) for their
"individual" crimes and not religious beliefs. BJP being in power, is
shameful for all Indians, but lets not blame all Hindus for that.
It is like believing with the Chinese government that all Falun-gong Members
are violent and are threat to that society.
Some of these "misunderstood" secularists do not realize is that there is no
true secularism that will make all happy. That will never happen. Given the
US Government provide so much religious freedom, there still are disgruntled
people. Imagine, the government shuts down for Jewish, Muslim, Native Indian
Holidays and what not. Imagine, Indian government shutting down for the
various Muslim (Ramadan is a month long holiday), Christian, Sikh holidays -
on top of the Hindu ones.
Governments found that to an impediment to its proper functioning.
Bangladesh has over 90% Muslims.
Also, there are portions of your article, where you have painfully blurred
the difference between Islam as a religion and the taleban. And you have
taken the liberty to attack the beliefs of other Muslims. That is Sir not
religious tolerance.
I do not read Taslima Nasrin's writing first hand - nor my money goes to
anything that can benefit her sales margin. One can attempt to be gain fame
by means that I do not approve of (notable, bashing other people,
criticizing any ones religion, sex, etc.) - but I do not have to buy
something for that.
One comment brought be great humor though in a sad way. "Our Bangali sisters
have found their voices since Begum Khalida ascended the throne of
Bangladesh!"
Did they not have a "voice" during the reign of Hasina?
Take care.
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Jaffor Ullah <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Another response culled from Mukto-Mona
Jessore is proud of her great son. Alongwith, Michael Modhusadan,
Bikramidityo, Rabindranth (he had property in Jessore) and the valiant
bir-Shrestha who fell in battle in 1971.
I am sure Ms. Majid is proud of her "nana" also.
I grew up in Jessore and ironically my nana was also from Jessore. And
knowing that Kabi Golam Mosafa is from Jessore makes me even more proud.
What "kabiguru" (that is something that he never discouraged any one to say
albeit he never claimed that himself) did or did not do should not be a
standard.
Are you going to suggest a limit on one's sense of creativity.
YOU write goru-rachana's and call yourself a a scribe - everybody laughs at
it, but hey that is your choice to do so.
Also, Hasina, BAL - all call Mujib , "jatir pita" bongobondhu" and all that.
And that has been going on since he was alive. I am sure he could have been
more modest. But like, Nehru, Zinnah and "bapu" Gandhi - Mujib had to have
some adornment to his name.
I am wondering if the first name of Mujib is jatir pita or bongobondhu?
>
> Your long piece was hate-laden no doubt. If the idea was to lambaste
(roast)
> some secular folks in cyberspace, then you get A+++. Your piece had no
theme
> whatsoever. Similar to a dabbler in writing, you moved from topic to
topic.
> In coherency, you will score a miserable D. There was no single theme to
> talk about. This is what is called a "Bikkhipto Chinta Sombolito Rochona"
at
> its best. The dark side of you overpowered your rational mind as you wrote
> the piece. Your insouciant mind had to resort to pococurantism to cut Ms.
> Nasrin and Mr. Mirza. There was no need for all that. Was this a SHTICK?
No more hate laden than yours. If she scores a miserable D - well most of
your writings probably should be thrown away.
Incoherency - well you are too stuck up in your make belief reality. I
doubt if you can look outside to risk being incoherent faced by truth.
>
> Your long tirade against secularists created a unnecessary tinhorn racket
in
> cyberspace. Above all, your sleight of hand had earned already many
friends
> who belonged to the other camp and who are sympathetic to BNP and its
> four-party alliance. Quite a few of them have nothing but a
> glowing encomium for your dexterity in deceptive writing.
>
What is wrong with BNP?
When Ershad was in power - Hasina is the one who betrayed the people.
If Hasina-camp were really serious about Jamaat they could have repealed the
amnesty ( like the other one) and do an objecive investigation and punish
the crimanals. Like the chesire cat Ms. Majid mentioned, Jamaat is smiling
because BAL lost the trust of the people to objectively punish anyone for
crimes committed in 1971. Unfortunate for democracy and rule of law.
Unfortunate that due to Mujib's stupidity these criminals are amongst our
government.
> With a friend like you, the secular force of Bangladesh hardly needs an
> enemy.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> A.H. Jaffor Ullah
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Asif Hasan
have been enough identification. When Farida Majid said poet Golam
Mostafa is my grand dad,Jaffor's pig skin started burning. This Janwar
Ullah better see his family physician Khurshed Chowdhury (a reputed
animal Doctor).
Farida Majid is a dedicated social activist.
She has worked very hard to the betterment of the women folk in
particular, to make the voice of the oppressed and the repressed
heard.
Jaffor Ullah is no sincere secularist from Bangladesh. He has no tie
whatsoever to the present Bangladesh. ALL HIS RELATIVES LIVE IN NORTH
AMERICA and UK. Jaffor Ullah in his romantic moments like to fantasize
that he would be a famous writer some day. All he does is to recycle
some generalized and prejudiced talks in different forums to come
under the limelight. This SOB does not know anything about any topic.
He has no support from any corner of the cyber space except from
Christian wannabe Jamal Hasan, blind Awami Dalal Muslim Biddweshi
Khurshed Chowdhury. All other characters are under cover non Muslims
or former Muslims in Muslim names.For example Syed Kamran Mirza is a
Bangladeshi Christian Pasteur (also writes as Ali Sina).
Just by writing in couple of websites Kamran Mirza does not become a
real flesh and blood identity.
My Open challenge to any one who can prove the Autheniticity of any
such identity like Kamran Mirza or Ali Sina. Even it will be hard to
find forerunners in mud slinging such as Habib Sarwar, Abul Kasem,
Shopon, Khokon et al having any valid identity or affiliation to any
real institute or organization.
Just ask your self why does a patriot like Jamal Hasan asks Zaffor
Iqbal not to repatriate to Bangladesh?Is n't it self interested
thinking of a bloody self interested person?
Also ask yourself why Jamal Hasan does not attend any of the FOBANA?
He went once in 1996. After that what happened to Matribhumi?
But here I am replicating some quotes from people of known vocation
and
reputation. Alright, here are some quotable quotes for Mir Jaffor
Ullah. It also applies to Animal doctor Khurshed Chowdhury and dark
skin (short and fat) red neck wannabe Jamal Mia (the same old crow
wearing a peacock feather).
"Nationalism can be the last resort for some scoundrels, and Jaffor
Ullah is one such scoundrel."
-Dr. Rashiduzzaman, giving credit to Gandhi for his famous words.
(Dr. Zaman a professor in Rowan College and is a regular columnist in
weekly Holiday.)
"Jaffor Ullah is a cow essayist cum Mirjafforian traitor."
-Dr. Waheeduzzaman Manik. (His articles on SMR and Bhashani have made
it to the national dailies and received credit).
"Jaffor Ullah judges people on fruit-tree analogy, this is racist."
-Dr. Harunuzzaman on Jaffor Ullah's 'relative of a Muslim leaguer'
type of lame analogy.(Columbus, Ohio)
"Jaffor Ullah is the pretender of intellectualism, a scientist of one
penny,
a voodoo historian."
-Mohammad Abdullah. (A regular columnist in NFB, whom Jaffor Ullah
makes a point ever not to cross. Because Mohammad Abdullah is ready to
shove a 7 ft pole into Ullah’s bottom and shut him up from his
mouth at any given time. That is the only way to shut bigmouth Jaffor
up, you got to do it from the rear!! Because many of his talking
starts from the rear.)
"It is a pity that while participating in intellectual polemics,
Jaffor Ullah acts like a wanton boy who knows how to slam a hammer
here and there, but not skillfully use it."
-Dr.Abdul Awal.(An Ex-civil servant who earned his Ph D in U.S)
"In my life as an activist, educationist and a writer I have never
seen such a group of mean spirited individuals operating as a team."
-Dr. Farida Majid (Dr. Majid , the grand daughter of poet Golam
Mostafa, on Jaffor Ullah, Jamal Hasan, Khurshed Chowdhury
gong and their pen names such as Abul Hasanath, Nawaz Khan, Abul
Kasem)
"keeping in view his association with communal politics, who will know
better about fundamentalist Islamic parties than him?"
-Jazz singer Maqsood on Jaffor Ullah in an NFB article, that issue
never made it to the archived paper stack thanks to Tanvir Chowdhury.
"We are disturbed that one Bangladeshi scholar A.H. Jaffor Ullah aka
Abul Hasanath is proposing a confederation of Bangladesh and the seven
sister states, however the proposal was so preposterous in nature that
he got chastised by his fellow Bangladeshis."
-Assam Tribune, published from Assam, India.
Concluding remarks: In my thread I have tried to show that A.H.
Jaffor Ullah is a Mirjafforian traitor. He has also walked us through
the interesting study by valuable inputs. We thank him regardless of
the unwillingness to co-operate. He did not want to but he has
screwed it up big times. He could not hide his character.
What is the credibility of such writer? To be more precise what is the
credibility of a writer who claims that he has inherited writing from
his family? It is known that his dad Manzoor Ullah was completely an
insane person for a major part of his life. It would not be surprising
to see this Jaffor Ullah will be placed in a mental institution some
time in near future due to the law of inheritance.
Asif Hasan
Jaffor Ullah
His article "Breaking the Manacle of Islam" was a mega hit. In the Internet
it is often difficult to control the spread of any article. Mr. Kasem's
sensational article was copied electronically by many readers. The same
article showed up in many fora and it spawned many debates in such forum as
Shetubondhon and other Bangalee fora. The article was reproduced in some
Hindu Fundamentalist forum. Mr. Kasem or NFB had no control over the
dissemination of this popular article. Neither Mr. Kasem nor any one should
be discredited for such a universal appeal of this article. Therefore, the
detractor of secularist writers should keep their lip sealed. I would like
to see them discuss Mr. Kasem's article instead of vilifying all the
Bangalee secularists who decided to write in the Internet fora.
These beguiling impugners know one thing and that is - Dhan Bant'e Shibe'r
Geet. Their threadbare excuses won't allow them to write any thing worth
while, which has been proven beyond any doubts. Therefore, all that comes
out of their keyboards is disparaging remarks. The SCB fora is strewn with
such disdainful remarks by only 4 people (I won't even name their names).
Refreshing as it is, Kasem's witty article comes from Mukto-Mona
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/), a growing fora of freethinkers.
Enjoy this delightful article before making one more statement about Dr.
Farida Majid's recent NFB article.
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From: "Abul Kasem" <abul88@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 23, 2001 1:05 pm
Subject: My confessions
The confessions of a Crypto-feminist Jihadi
By Abul Kasem
I have a few confessions to make. I come from a high-class Muslim family of
Bangladesh. My Nana (grandfather) was the 'world class poet'. Taslima
however is a wench; she comes from a low class family of farmers. What a
shame! Nevertheless, no one listens to me; the whole world listens to
Taslima. She is the one who receives all the glowing encomiums. How strange!
There ain't no justice in this mortal world. And that is for sure.
Begrudgingly, I must say that Taslima writes trash. Actually, her writings
are all 'pornography.' I write 'holy books'; yet, no one wants to read my
holy words. The whole world loves the 'sex maniac', Taslima's 'pornographic
works'. Actually, I pretend to be 'holy'. I watch 'pornographic' movies in
secret and whenever I am in the Internet, I never fail to click to the 'hard
core' sites. However, I have to be stupid to confess it in public. I really
admire Taslima for her honesty, about her repressive feelings. How I wish I
could be more like her and enjoy all the forbidden fruits! Then, I do not
have her courage to defy the Bengali taboo on sex. Therefore, I pretend to
be a 'goody goody' Bengali working housewife. Similar to dhoa tulsi pata.
You see, I am an expert in behesti Arabic language. But no one reads my
Arabic writings. Taslima writes in her mother tongue (what a shame!) yet
millions read her books. I despise those occidentals who are dying to
translate Taslima's trash into Danish, French, Finnish, Polish, German, and
what not. But they don't even look at my academic work. Shame on them! I
wonder why such a low-level writer's licentious works are in such a great
demand. The readers have insatiable appetite for her books. How stupid the
readers have become lately! They do not realize what great works they are
missing! It's all in my Kismet. What more can I say.
I fought so hard with GADNIC yet I achieved nothing. Zilch. I never received
any death threat from the mad Mullahs of Bangladesh. In fact, as they days
go by, I am becoming almost a darling to them. They are happy with me
because they know rather well that my weapons are absolutely blunt and with
this blunt weapon, I shall never be able to decapitate the Mullahs. They
(the Mullahs) know who their real enemy is. Yes, it is Taslima who attacked
their very foundation. That is why the Mullahs wanted her head. See how
clever I am! I kill so many birds in one stone. First, the secularists think
that I am on their side. Ha, ha, ha. That is why they do not criticize me.
In fact, they leave me alone. Secondly, the Mullahs love me because I am not
a real threat to them. This is why I am a two-headed snake. If you are into
the Greek Mythology, you may call me a multi-headed Hydra. That suits me
fine.
When Ali Sina challenges me, I pretend to be sick and try to go home and
take rest after mega-dosing on my Valium. Actually, I dare not accept his
challenge. The truth is that if I accept his challenge I may end up losing
my saris and petticoats, figuratively speaking of course. Taslima never
challenges me; she had never attacked me in any manner. She is in fear of
losing her life, whereas am not. I love to attack and humiliate the weak and
the vulnerable. That is why I target TN (Taslima Nasrin) repeatedly. But I
dare not attack the strong and the powerful. As a matter of principle, I
kowtow them. I have no qualms sitting next to a Rabbi, if they ask me to
join in their discussion.
I am a highly educated professor in an American University whereas TN is a
lowly qualified doctor from a wretched country like Bangaldesh. I am an
expert on the 'most peaceful' religion on earth, Islam. She is just an
impostor. But surprisingly, when this impostor talks, the whole world
listens a la E.F. Hutton. When an 'encyclopedia' like me lectures, everyone
falls asleep. Why is it so, I wonder?
Shameless indeed, but I mentioned about the huge number of my books my
bookshelf has. But you see, nobody cares! May be the readers realize that my
head has none. And no writer is shameless enough to declare his or her
writings as 'scholarly' but I myself had to describe my own articles as
'scholarly' because people never say that. The whole world wants to read
TN's autobiography. No one has ever requested for my autobiography though I
would love to write one. I wonder how many people will be interested in my
'autobiography'.
Do you know that I am a great feminist? I talk a lot about women's rights
and their proper place in a modern society. However, deep inside me, I
actually hate the women's right activists. I really like the misogynist
nature of Islam. This is because I live in an infidel's society where women
have very few restrictions to pursue their happiness and well being. I have
nothing to lose in showing my unflinching love for Islam. But, if I ever go
to an Islamic paradise like Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, Iran, (and now
Bangladesh), Nigeria, I shall be the first victim of Islam for flaunting my
body parts in public. I know that I may have to be under the mobile prison
(Burqa) and may be scourged if I disobey any Islamic code on female dress.
That is why I am a big hypocrite. I love Islam when I am in America (or in
any other infidel society) but abhor it (Islam) when I go to any Islamic
paradise. TN is really stupid. She does not know how to tackle Islam. I am
so clever. I know all the secrets of Islam and the Mullahs. Now, won't you
agree that I am superior to that slut?
TN is stupid because she does not know how to fight the Islamists. I am very
intelligent and skillful when I am not inebriate. She is very dumb in
risking her life for the cause of women in Bangladesh. See how smart I am! I
never risk anything. Everything is safe for me. Due to my super intelligent
strategy, the Islamists have now taken control of Bangladesh. But I put that
blame to TN even though she had been out of her motherland for almost a
decade and had been very silent, lately. However, her silence is so
deafening. Her silence says more than my regular lectures to my 'murids'.
I really envy TN and her guts to confront the entire hostile Islamic world
by herself. I really admire her freedom to choose her life the way she wants
it. I really appreciate her courage to get out of a dissatisfied marital
hell. I often wished I could be more like her. But I have no guts. I have no
courage. I have no bravery left in me. I craved for praise, appreciation,
and accolade but I could not get them. Why does a stupid, dumb, lustful,
rebellious, and 'culturally unenlightened' woman like TN get all the
accolades in the world? I am an epitome of a culturally superior, best
educated, professional and religiously devout Bengali lady. I am an example
that all Bengalis will follow to groom their daughters, yet I do not get any
award, prize, and citation.... and above all no respect from anywhere in the
world not even from Bangladesh. TN has already received a number of awards
from many parts of the world except from her Bangladesh. This reminds me a
Begali proverb 'Geon jogi Veekh Payena' (a village beggar does get alms from
his/her own folks). However, it is a matter of time before the Bengalis
realize their follies in discarding this rebel lady and elevate her to the
pedestal of worship for doing what Betty Frieden did for the Western women's
movement. This is what worries me the most. This is why I must assassinate
her character at all cost and at any cost. The Mullahs are yet to finish her
off physically. They (the Mullahs) may fail to do that, but I must not fail
in my mission to silence her. And silent she would be. After all, a woman's
worst enemy is another woman. Therefore, TN's real enemy is I and not the
cretinous Mullahs.
I never went to any peer (seer) of Bangladesh. It was because I was from a
highly cultured, well-respected 'Tom boy' from Bangladesh. 'Tom boys' in
Bangaldesh do not go to peers, Maulanas, or Mullahs because they (the
Mullahs) are afraid of them. 'Tom boys' play on trees, ponds, jungles,
rivers, and in places where no ordinary girl dare to venture. I have very
little idea of the peers in Bangladesh and what influence they have in the
lives of women of Bangladesh. TN was a real submissive little Bengali girl
who followed her mother to her adviser (peer) on virtually every matter.
Most of these peers have great influence in the lives of every villager. The
villagers have very little education. They believe whatever the peer says.
This is the truth of rural society in Bangladesh. Yet, I pretend to
enlighten the expatriate Bangladeshis that not all the peers of Bangladesh
are corrupt or charlatans. I pretend to say that there may be some good
peers who know about 'real Islam'. However, I must confess that I have never
come across with any of those 'goody' peers.
To be honest, I really know what the 'real Islam' is, but I pretend to
defend Islam because I do not want to rock the boat. I am quite contended to
live a double life. That hardly bothers me. You see, I am a walking
contradiction. I am quite happy to say what suits the time. When it is
appropriate, I become a 'secular humanist' and when I am with the Mullahs, I
am a staunchly devoted Sharif Muslim lady. My umbilical cord with Islam is
intact. No one can sever that. Don't you think that it is the shrewdest, the
cleverest, and the most opportunistic idea in the world? I suffer no pain,
no humiliation, no death threat, no loneliness; no shortage of loved ones,
no deprivation of family life either. I have the best of all worlds. How
clever and convenient, huh!
Despite all these positive attributes about me, I am really jealous of TN
for having the audacity to bring about a fundamental change in the fate of
the hapless women of Bangladesh. I only wished I could do a fraction of what
Taslima did already. If there were another life, then I would really like to
be born as TN. I hope no Mullah heard me saying that. Because, I don't want
to be branded as a Kufr for wishing another life a la Hindus and to emulate
my reincarnated life as a Mullah-hater. A double whammy.
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> If some one said my Grandfather's name is Golam Mostafa it would not
> have been enough identification. When Farida Majid said poet Golam
> Mostafa is my grand dad,Jaffor's pig skin started burning. This Janwar
> Ullah better see his family physician Khurshed Chowdhury (a reputed
> animal Doctor).
>
> Farida Majid is a dedicated social activist.
> She has worked very hard to the betterment of the women folk in
> particular, to make the voice of the oppressed and the repressed
> heard.
>
> The rest snipped because it contains derisively stuff written by a
deranged mind<
buddhibaz
Do you have $100,000? Chum, you live on benefits from SSA. How do you
declare such large sum of money? Again another freud?
Buddhibaz
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W.Zaman Manik
Following Mirjjafforian commentary (reprinted from NFB, January 2,
2002) has been captioned under mirjafforian title in mirjjafforian
English. Only Mirjafforian cow essayist A.H. Jaffor Ullah is capable
of penning such Mirjjafforian cow essay. In the same issue of NFB,
another seminal cow essay under his real name A.H. Jaffor Ullah has
been PUBLISHED. Only two days back, yet another of his cow essays on
the year 2001 has been published. Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah must be
GLOATing. Unfortunately, each of his MIRJAFFORIAN GORU (cow)ROCHONA
(Essay) STARTS with NAME-CALLING and ENDS with NAME-CALLING.
Name-calling, taunting, hate-mongering, bad-mouthing, name-dropping,
slandering, defaming, mis-representing, and of course, misquoting are
the essential features of MIRJAFFORIAN COW ESSAYS.
For instance, the caption of the following cow essay starts with a
distorted conclusion: Bangladesh is bleeding now under a repressive
regime. Then Dr. Jaffor ulla says it all, "please do something," now.
Please remember, this misleading title of the cow article is nothing
but a politically loaded statement. Thus he drew his deceptive
conclusion before he even started writing his seminal cow essay. His
mirjafforian cow essay is full of Mirjafforian lies and distortions.
Although Mr. Jaffor ullah and his mirjafforian cohorts have thus far
failed to provide any credible evidence in support of Shahriar kabir's
innocence, they have launched a hate-campaign against the
democratically elected Government of People's Republic of Bangladesh.
The sole intent of such anti-Bangladesh-cum- mijafforian campaign is
to tarnish the image of Bangladesh in the international community.
There is little wonder why Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah and his his
mirjafforian collaborators have intensified their anti-Bangladesh
activities at a critical juncture of Bangladesh's history.
For the convenience of the readers, I am posting Dr. A.H.
Jafforullah's seminal commentary (from NFB, January 2, 2002). Let the
readers draw their own conclusions:
Bangladesh bleeds under a repressive regime. Please do something
By Shiraj Uddin Shopon (alias A.H. Jaffor Ullah)
New York
E Mail : mailto:mssho...@hotmail.com
A renowned Journalist and a writer Shahriar Kabir was arrested and
harassed under the public eye at the Dhaka Airport by the security
forces of the present Neo-Muslim League BNP and fundamentalist Jamaat
Islami government while Mr. Kabir returned from a fact-finding
mission; all the while he is being kept under bar without bringing any
specific charge against him.
Published newspaper reports revealed that the security forces
initially acted mischievously even to kill him. They could not
implement their plan due to the continuous presence of the reporters.
After few days, the government brought charges of treason against him
without any specific evidence.
What are the charges of treason against this dedicated freedom
fighter-writer-journalist of this country, one might ask? Collecting
information on the repression against minorities as a journalist and
as a writer does not make one working against the state, does it?
Failing to bring any valid charge, the security forces are detaining
and remanding him repeatedly to make a fabricated case against this
valiant freedom fighter who fought and was ready to die for the
independence of Bangladesh. He fought against the Pakistani forces and
the Jamaati collaborators and their communal intellectual supporters
– who were the disgrace to the Bangladeshi people.
The soothsayer supporters of Jamaat and BNP worked and conspired
constantly to bring the semi-Islamic BNP and the fundamentalist Jamaat
Islami to power. As a result, a valiant freedom fighter is now in jail
and the fascist Jamaati leaders [ruling Bangladesh as Ministers] are
in the air-conditioned rooms in the secretariat building in
Bangladesh.
The communal Islamic politicians used Islam to make this happen in
Bangladesh. Their expatriate cohorts were not wasting time here in
abroad either. They dreamed fancy dreams to replace Awami League by
BNP and Jamaat for Islamization, Rajakarization, and Talebanization of
Bangladesh. All these three processes are progressing in Bangladesh in
full speed without any hindrance whatsoever.
The repression against minority population throughout the country,
stopping government ads in anti-Jamaat newspapers [Sangbad,
Janakantha, Ajker Kagoj, and other newspapers], beating and
threatening journalists and arresting Shahriar Kabir for collecting
news of the victims of repression are few of the examples of the three
processes mentioned before.
The arrest of Shahriar Kabir is a strong Talebani message to the rest
of the journalists and to the secular non-communal writers-journalists
of the country and make no mistake about it. The message is: remain
docile to the present Islamic government otherwise state sponsored
Jamaati repression will be carried out. This time Bangladeshi
journalists are not as vocal for Shahriar Kabir as they were for Tipu
Sultan. Even the expatriate secular forces are worried enough to be
vocal against BNP Jamaati repression.
Who knows how the ferocious Islamic fascist Jamaatis can make someone
a victim of repression for writing anything against their heinous
acts? After repression, an "Islamic Petition" with a note of
"congratulation" will go later from abroad to the BNP and Jamaatis
from the Islamic Expatriates. Will it stop them from doing further
repression?
A true non-communal person with consciousness will not spend time for
organizing an "Islamic Petition." He will collect information to
expose the atrocities in front of the conscious people to raise
protests at all corners of the world. Especially, a dedicated and a
brave freedom fighter-writer-journalist cannot remain inert and docile
after hearing the news of all-out atrocities by the communal Islamic
political goons in independent Bangladesh.
Shahriar Kabir is such a brave freedom fighter–writer-journalist
who did not fear torture under a communal, fascist Islamic and a
fundamentalist government. He didn’t wait for a certain
political party to take the issue of repression into their political
agenda. As a conscious and as a brave journalist, Shahriar Kabir took
the onus on him to expose the extent of sufferings of the minorities.
Unfortunately, he himself is bearing now the brunt of government
sponsored tormenting in for carrying out his journalistic duties. He
deserves deep respect for his courage and forthrightness. We saw many
freedom Fighters turn Razakar patrons. Like those, he didn’t
change his color like a lizard (as Dr. Jaffor Ullah mentioned it so
nicely in one of his many essays!).
In the present grave situation, there is virtually no political
support for people like Shahriar Kabir. Threats are issued against
cultural activists [Syed Hasan Imam, Asaduzzaman Nur, and many
others], journalists, and others who are the political opponents of
the BNP and Jamaati fundamentalist alliances.
Now the BNP and Jamaati government forces are taking the role of the
Joynal Hazaris in repressing the renowned journalist like Shahriar
Kabir. And the news reports reveal that Bangladesh is now under the
control of innumerable Hazaris of the four party alliances with huge
strengths and influences many times more than what a lone Hazari of
Awami League could muster. The situation is such that the journalists
such as Tipu Sultan will even be scared to death even before opening
their pens.
The threats of the alliance are intense and real. Please make no
mistake about it. For example, the former Chief Justice Latifur Rahman
acted according to their will even though the Neo-Muslim League (BNP)
lawyers kicked on the door of his office. Can anyone imagine the
lawyers of a political party kicking on the door of the Chief Justice
of the Supreme Court of a western country?
The kicks on the doors of the office of the former chief justice
worked. He obediently favored the Neo-Muslim League BNP and the
fundamentalist Jamaat Islami by carrying out a conspiratorial
election. And for his favor, those who kicked on his office door have
become the ministers. The "Islamic Expatriates" worries constantly
about Joynal Hazari’s type of terrorism but did not bother about
the terrorism of the Neo-Muslim League lawyers in the premise of the
Supreme Court.
Only thing I could add here is that these "Islamic Expatriates" are
not sincere in their dealing with escalating political crime in
Bangladesh. If they had an ounce of fairness in their heart, how could
they remain silent at this grave hour when the Special Branch of
Bangladesh’s Police is tormenting Shariar Kabir’s mind.
Under the rule of the terror Neo-Muslim League leaders, threats and
intimidation by the terrorists and by the government security forces
have become the order of the day. It is now visible than ever before
that the state-sponsored terrorists will lead the country invariably
toward total anarchy from which none will escape.
Don’t we see these signs already in Bangladesh? A renowned
freedom fighter-writer-journalist Shahriar Kabir’s detention
without any specific charge shows how the Neo-Muslim League BNP and
Jamaat government is carrying out repression against the ordinary
political opponents.
While all these developments were taking place with Shahriar Kabir,
the London-based Amnesty International has declared Shahriar Kabir as
a "Prisoner of Conscience." The Secretary General of Amnesty
International Irene Khan requested Begum Zia for his release. Nothing
worked so far! Are you surprised, dear readers? Begum Zia said that
Shahriar would not be released because the charges against him are
complex. How could she say this? It should be the court to decide
whether the charges are complex and whether he can be released or not.
Is the court system in Bangladesh under Begum Zia’s command?
Where is this separation of Judiciary from the Executive branch in
Bangladesh? Should not the Awami League lawyers file a case against
her for contempt of court? Where are the inert Awami lawyers these
days now that we need them?
It hardly comes as a surprise that the lower court Magistrates denied
Shahriar Kabir’s bail prayer. Not unlikely that these poor guys
are under threats of transfer or of being fired from the jobs if they
do not obey the dictation of the present Islamic government. The High
Court is hearing the bail petition with no ruling so far.
Unlike the past Awami League government who used to worry about the
rulings of the High Court, this Neo-Muslim League government does not
worry about the High Court rulings. They know who the Judges are. Just
as they knew whom Justice Shahabuddin Ahmed and Justice Latifur Raman
were.
In addition, they do not care if they disobey High Court order. They
did not allow Shahriar Kabir’s lawyers, his wife, and children
to meet even after the High Court order. Therefore, the present
fundamentalist Talebani government can keep a real patriot, a freedom
fighter, and a journalist-writer under custody along with the
criminals like dacoits, thieves, goons, terrorists, and muggers.
It is a pain to think that such unjust things could happen in a
country where the fascist war criminals are Ministers and a freedom
fighter-writer-journalist is a prisoner for collecting news of the
victims repressed by the Islamic political thugs.
What has happened to the conscious of our people these days? Have all
the Bangladeshi people become inert and spineless? Have they all
surrendered to the Rajakars? Why not a strong protest in and outside
Bangladesh are raging these days? As a conscientious Bangladeshi, we
should make protest to protect Shahriar Kabir from the fascist Islamic
regime. Protect our freedom of press! Please do protect
Bangladesh’s democracy from the clutches of fascist communal
Islamists if anyone thinks that things are bent out of shape in our
Bangladesh in this trying times. (This mirjafforian item was reprinted
from NEWS FROM BANGLADESH, January 2, 2002)
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> The following was culled from Mukto-Mona forum
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/messages)
>
>
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Tarek Ali
repression in Bangladesh. If legal actions against some terrorists and
Indian agents are termed as 'repression', then may be someone has
repressed the cow at his home, and he is thinking it is raining
everywhere. I suggest that we do not pay any attention to the cow or
his essays. Only spank him with his tail tied between legs whenever he
comes with a new cow essay. Then focus on the more meaningful stuff.
And the same treatment should be given whenever the cow comes in with
a musk to hide his identity.
BTW, there is a big fire going on in 'Sidney', and the whole city is
in danger of getting destroyed. May be the Abul Kasem musk was also
burned in the fire. I bet 'he' will be relocating soon as he was never
located in 'Sidney'.
And the Sirajuddin Swopon musk may be burried under yards of snow in
New York. Poor 'angry secularist' who always shows such profound
bovine behavior. Where will 'he' relocate now.
I think the cow AHJU has been stripped naked to the bone, and he does
not have any shame left in him. So it is pointless to engage with him
and to try to arouse shame and sensibility in him. So just spank him
real hard and may be he only write - mooo.
TA
TA
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Ph.D., once again, has disappeared from SCB. Only three days back, Mr.
ASIF HAS nabbed Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah for fraudulently claiming the
ownership of the word Khudra-Mona. Since then, we have not heard
anything from our distinguished cow essayist. Jaffor Ullah knows it
for sure that ASIF HASSAN is COREECT. Instead of tendering his apology
for his forgery, he temporarily disappeared from SCB. He somehow wants
the SCB thread to die out. No, that is not going to happen, at leat
not at this time. This Mirjafforian tactic is not going to work.
Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah disappears from SCB only to reappear in NFB with
Mirjafforian falsehoods and distortions. He has done it before. No one
can hide truth with lies. Truth will prevail. Following mirjafforian
letter which appeared in NFB (Jan. 9, 2002 under Dr. A.H. Jaffor
Ullah's assumed name), demonstrates that our fight against
MIRJAFFORIAN BETRAYAL is not yet over.
(Reprinted from NFB, Jan. 9, 2002):
The Government is behind Khatib’s faux pas!
Shiraj Uddin Shopon (alias A.H. Jaffor Ullah)
New York City. ]
E Mail : mssho...@hotmail.com
Lately, the Imam of Baitul Mukarram Mosque Maulana Obaidul Haque is in
the news for expressing his solid support for the Talibans of
Afghanistan and bin Laden at the official Eid congregation at the
National Eidgah on December 17.
His one-man show did not quite end there; he gave an edict (fatwa)
against the president of the USA as well. In his edict, the imam
called America and President Bush "number one terrorists" of the
world. The Imam gave the edicts in the presence of the President of
Bangladesh, which should be taken into account rather seriously. The
Khatib [Imam] Obaidul Haque prayed for the destruction of America. The
President and many ministers prayed along with the Khatib.
What does it portray? Did not the President and the ministers pray for
the destruction of America? If not, then why do not they denounce and
take action against the controversial Khatib?
As of yet, no action has been taken by the present government of
Neo-Muslim League BNP and fundamentalist Jamaat-i-Islami against this
Imam for his derogatory comments on President George Bush and on USA.
The Imam did not quit sermonizing there. He took full advantage of the
Eid prayer. He also made vicious comments against Bangla New Year Day
celebration, which is known to all Bengali as Pahela Baishakh.
Some of the readers may recall that the Khatib made objectionable
comments on our liberation war in the past. The former government took
action against this controversial Maulana by removing him from the
post of Imam of Baitul Mukarram Mosque. But, the present
fundamentalist government brought back this Bangladeshi Taliban Imam
to perpetuate the process of Talibanization and Razakarization of
Bangladesh.
The hateful comments by the Razakar and Taliban supporter Maulana
should not come out of the blue for anyone – who has some
knowledge of the politics of Neo-Muslim League BNP and fundamentalist
Jamaat-i-Islami.
The Imam’s unending support for the Talibans would have been
used as a plus to boost the Islamic politics of the fundamentalist
alliance formed by the Neo-Muslim League BNP and the fundamentalist
Jamaat-i-Islami if the tragic events of September 11 would not have
happened and if USA had not taken a bold and decisive step against the
Islamic fundamentalists throughout the world. In the changed world
after September 11, the Neo-Muslim League and the fundamentalist
government are not in a position to give support openly and boldly to
the Talibans of Bangladesh.
So, they are maintaining silence on the comments made by the Imam and
simultaneously portraying Imam’s comments as his personal views.
But, the Imam of Baitul Mukarram Mosque is not an Imam of a private
Mosque. He is the Imam of the government Mosque. The government pays
him. He is a government employee. His action and words must reflect
government’s views.
If contradiction arises and if he works against government’s
decision and views then he must be removed by the higher authority of
the government as early as possible to spare the embarrassment. If the
government does not remove him, then the whole world will have to
realize that the government’s views behind the curtain are the
same as the views of the Imam.
One NFB contributor Mr. Esam Sohail condemned the edicts of the
Maulana already. It is good that he apprehended the severity of the
vicious edicts and its consequences in the present global context.
But, he measurably failed to understand the power base of the Imam,
that is, wherefrom he got his courage and inspiration to deliver the
vile edicts.
This Imam is an ardent supporter of Jamaat-i-Islami [may be a leader
– anyone may please provide some info about this politically
involved Maulana]. The past Awami League government ousted him for his
derogatory comments on Bangladesh liberation war. The present
Neo-Muslim League fundamentalist government reinstated him as the Imam
of Baitul Mukarram -- the biggest government Mosque in the Capital.
The Prime Minister Begum Khaleda Zia regards him as a learned man.
This was her comment in response to an inquiry by a reporter on the
edicts given by the controversial Imam.
The Prime Minister, President, and all other Ministers are maintaining
their deafening silence even after a terrible edict by a government
paid Imam against the President of the United States of America. Mr.
Esam Sohail was a habitual critic of the past Awami League government.
Where are his criticisms of the present Neo-Muslim League government
for no action against the government paid Imam?
It will be simply hogwash and a naïve analysis if any erudite
political scientist criticizes only the Imam for his senseless edicts
while leaving the government unscathed. The protest and criticism
should be aimed at the government for reinstating this Imam and
allowing him to give edicts against the head of another country by
violating all government rules and diplomatic norms.
Now I simply wonder, how will our Foreign Ministry respond to any
inquiry by the USA about such a terrible edict made by an uncouth
government paid Imam? Let us not forget that two congressmen from
Washington DC will be visiting Dhaka very shortly. Let us not delude
ourselves thinking that those legislators from America will not pose
that question to Bangladesh government.
What would be the answer then? If a government employee [Imam of
Baitul Mukarram] of Bangladesh makes vicious comments about the head
of the government of another country [USA], then how will the
government maintain good diplomatic relationship and do business with
this country? It is a serious matter to ponder no matter how one looks
at the bugaboo created by this Islamic scholar of Bangladesh.
The consequences may become grave because the image of the country is
at stake to the outside world.
The present Neo-Muslim League government should consider abandoning
ties with the pure fundamentalists. The Imam -- who made derogatory
comments against President George Bush must be tried and punished for
breaking all diplomatic norms and rules of the government. The silence
of the government without any further immediate action against the
Imam will prove that the government is behind all this faux pas, which
the government and their supporters are desperately trying to deny.
(This Mirjafforian letter is reprinted from NFB, jan. 9, 2002)
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Jaffor Ullah
in Mr. Shopon's article to figure out who's who. A French phrase in the
title and some neat English constructions here and there would not qualify
Mr. Shopon to be me. They say, "Imitation is the sincerest form of
flattery." If Mr. Shopon wants to follow my style of writing, who am I to
block him? I wished other denizens of scb would follow Mr. Shopon's example
to upgrade their level of English. Just look around. You will see some
samples of DU's threadbare (purana) English of the arts faculty. Habits don
't die easily, do they?
I have some news for the scbites. The dogs will be barking; nonetheless,
the caravan will surely pass. So, all this 'Kaliganji bazaira chilla-chilli
won't last for ever. The exorcising will start sooner than one might think.
The exorcist is preparing the ashol dawai (medicine).
When the government of Muslim League of Bangladesh will exit with a
whimper -- a lot sooner than one may think -- then who is going to come to
America from the Beauty Queen's office seeking help?
"bachan, amare arekbaar bachan, apnara."
Who is going to come forward? Got any clues?
The answer is: No, not that easily will I furnish the answer.
The guessing game will start pretty soon. A lot sooner than one could think.
Let me keep this secret before someone is going to snap pretty soon in the
scb right before your eyes.
Scbites are going to enjoy the future sessions of exorcism a la bangla
grame'r style. And that's for sure.
Holding a tightly knit secret could be someone's diabolic game. However,
there is a world out there where people breath and live. People talk; they
exchange views.
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> It will be simply hogwash and a naďve analysis if any erudite
mwzaman
A.H. Jaffor Ullah, once again, deflecting the real issue. He is trying
to digress from the main issues. He is using this tactic because he
could not refute Asif Hasan’s categorical assertions with
reference to the following:
a. Mr. Asif Hasan adequately demonstrated that a Mirjafforian claim of
the ownership of the word Khudra-Mona is the fruit of Dr.
ullaha’s mirjafforian imagination. Actually W.Zaman Manik did
not steal the word Kudra-Mona from Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah. Am I right,
Mr. Ullah? It is a fact that Mir Jafforian brand of people are not
open-minded people (Khula-Moner Manush). They are closed-minded
people. Indeed, Mir Jafforian brand of people, including new
mirjaffors of Bangladesh origin, are small-minded people (Khudra-Mona
Look). These Khudra-Mona people excel in spreading the message of
hatred. Those certified new mirjaffors disseminate Ghreenar Bani
through Internet. They are hypocrites. It is, then, fair to say that
some khudra-mona people have installed Mukta-Mona website with a
professed aim of maligning Bangladesh. The word Khudar-Mona came to
my mind on the day I saw this Mukta-Mona website. This so-called
Mukta-Mona website is everything but Mukta-Mona. That's why I
characterized it as Khudar-Mona website. Anyway, any one can use these
words--- kudra-mona or mukta-mana--- these are most familiar words. No
one can claim ownership of these common words. If some one does, it is
nonsense. Jaffor Ullah, you talk about nonsenses.
b. Mr. Asif Hasan has clearly pointed out that Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah,
our voodoo secularist, was one of the chief organizers of NAMAJ
(salat) during his stay at the University of Illinois
(Urbana-Champaigne). You were a deeply religious man. Is it true, Dr.
Ullah? Your conversion to voodoo brand of secularism is of very
recent origin. Am I correct?
c. Mr. Asif Hasan has questioned the very existence of the fictitious
cow essayists such as Montoo, Shopon, Khokan, Kashem etc. Do they
exist? If they exist, why don’t you ask them to come out? They
are defending you any way. Or, are they scared of their own
mirjafforian manufacturer?
Instead of dropping names and calling names, Dr. Ullah should stick to
the point. Therefore, I respectfully request Dr. Jaffor Ullah to
refute these clear and unambiguous aeertions. I am willing to hear his
side of the story.
Dr. Ullah, I must concede that I carefully read some of your seminal
cow essays. Why? Because I have some interest in voodoo history and
voodoo social sciences. You are the one who has been branded as Dr.
KNOW-IT-ALL. Do I have to repeat that only KNOW-NOTHING-AT-ALL
pretends to be KNOW-IT-ALL?
Dr. Ullah, you are fond of self-appreciating your own cow essays.
That’s your choice. But I don’t know about everything. I
don’t know all languages. Therefore, I try to learn every day. I
have many things to learn. I try to read good writings to improve my
own diction. Yet, I must say that I have nothing to learn from your
cow essays. You have no sense of proportion. No matriculate Ph.D. can
carricature the writings of the Dhaka University graduates. A
matriculate Ph.D. holder like you can’t be a role model for me.
You have created fictitious characters like Shopon, Kashem, Khokan,
Montoo to appreciate your own mirjafforian cow essays. Following
letter, in bracket, is an instance of your mijafforian barnd of
self-appreciation:
[“From: "Abul Kasem" <abul88@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Attack Against FFI/Mukto-Mona by
Soc.Culture.Bangladesh Mullahs
In response to : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4002Dear
Montu
Thanks for writing such a informative details about the cyber foot
soldiers of the Rajakars, Al-Badrs and the Talibans. Abul Kasem]
Dr. Ullah, you must understand that your cow essays are nothing but
cow essays. These are garbages. You may choose to fill the low-lying
shallow land in around New Orleans with those mirjafforian garbages.
Sincerely, W.Zaman Manik (Jan. 10, 2002)
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not get over the 'quality' of his cow English. Listen ulluk, nobody
writes old British style Ingraji other than you in this century. Just
by changing a couple spellings of proper nouns does not hide you under
SSwopon. Janoar, you even made it more clear that you indeed are SS.
Now think of covering your own behind rather than worrying about the
new govt. in Bangladesh. Behaya janoar.
TA
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allegations. He has nothing to refute charges against him. Is hee a
fraud? Is he a forger? Whenever we confront him with facts and
figures, he disappears from SCB. Yet, A.H. Jaffor ullah continues to
spread falsehoods about others. His motto is to distort whatever
Bangladesh stands for. He pretends to know everything. Of late, A.H.
Jaffor Ullah has authored a seminal cow essay on the Hindu Belief
System (published in NFB and posted in his HATE-GROUP Mukta-Mona to
generate some support from the anti-Muslim groups. He pretends to be a
learned man with vast knowledge about many religions including
Hinduism. Nothing could be far from truth than this mockery. This
mirjafforian eassay once again proves that a liitle learning can be a
dangerous thing.
Dr. Ullah will feel elated to know that I read this particular cow
essay very carefully, and I must concede that I enjoyed the pictures.
I have nothing against any religion including Hinduism. I commend Dr.
A.H. Jaffor Ullah for carefully copying and then carefully inserting
those in the computer. I thank him for taking so much of his valuable
time from his busy schedule for putting these pictures together. Yet,
I need to say that there is nothing worth seeing or worth reading in
that cow essay other than those colored pictures of Dev-DEvi. Jaffor
ullah's jumbled cow essay would have been more attractive if he would
have restricted his comments within the parameters of Hindu Belief
system.
Unfortunately, the contents of his cow essay are full of distortions,
fabrications, mis-interpretations, and falsehoods. A.H. Jaffor ullah
talks too much. He also tries to cover too much of themes and points
in his essays. The end result is that he ends up with name-calling. He
starts with name-calling and ends up with name-calling. This article
has not remained immune to such generalizations. Since the topic of
the article was supposed to be an explanation or description of main
themes of Hindu religion, any intelligent commentator would have
avoided any reference to Jinnah or Pakistan movement or Hindu-Muslim
tension. In this kind of essay on any particular religious belief
systems, no communally loaded sermons are appropriate. In my view, Dr.
A.H. Jaffor Ullah could earn appreciation from a number of real
readers with real identities if he would have underlined the essential
features of Hindu Belief Systems. But the crux of the problem is that
Jaffor Ullah can't accept even constructive criticism. He is always
right. According his dictates, he can't be wrong. He knows everything
Specifically, Dr. Ullah's mirjafforian comments about the causes of
tension between Hindus and Muslims in Bengal are nothing but lies and
gross distortions. Of course, Dr. Jaffor Ullah does not know the
history of Bengal politics before the emergence of pakistan. He has no
idea the about the quest for identity of Bengali Muslims. Like any
Mirjafforian writers, neo-mirjaffors of Bangladesh pen history with
their mirjafforian pen (or Mirjafforian keyboards!)with an aim of
proving their pre-determined and preconceived notions and points. Only
a Mirjafforian cow essayist can ever claim that Hindu-Muslim tension
in Bengal was the result of only Muslim COMMUNALISM. If he is willing
to discuss Bengal politics from early decades of the last century
through 1947, I would take part with an open mind. The truth of the
matter is that Dr. Ullah is scared to face the truth. He does not like
critical analysis of his comments. Instead, he likes to be satisfied
with the self-appreciation, deliberately generated though his own
postings under various fictious name. Following phony letters of
self-appreciation have been reprinted from the so-called Mukta-mona
Hate-site to substantiate my claim:
Item#1
[Mukta-Mona]
From: "K Chowdhury" <chowdhuryk@h...>
Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 12:59 pm
Subject: RE: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4059
Jaffor Shaheb,
This is a very good project you have started. We know very little
about Hinduism. Your article will help people learn about Hinduism.
Please continue your good work. By the way, pics are really fantastic.
Thanks. KAC
item#2
From: raman padma <ramanpadma@y...>
Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4059
Dear A.H.Jaffor Ullah,
I humbly request you to accept my appriciations for
your write-up on Hindusism.
I have seen many non-communal people; amoung all, yourself
stand out like a beacon. I consider myself the
most previleged, while reading your write-ups. This
write-up tops the lot.
Persons like you are the hopes for the survival of
Humanism. Please accept my Namaskarams.
Thanks.
Regards,
Raman
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belief system: Pictures worth a thousand words (Part One)" in Must-Mona
forum are:
1. Dr. K. Chowdhury whose avocation is writing in NFB and Thikana. He is
senior to me by 3-4 years. We attended the same university in erstwhile East
Pakistan. He lives in Maryland and works for the US Government.
2. Ms. Padma Raman is not known to me. She writes very frequently in
Mukto-Mona forum as judged by the messages she posted in the past that could
be viewed through the archive.
There is a new forum in the cyberspace by the name Nirvana
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nirvana1/). I started this forum on Dec 25,
2001.
It seems as if the secularists and liberals of South Asia are forging a
coalition to educate fellow South Asians who received an illiberal education
back home. Unfortunately, a number of them are the permanent denizens of
this forum. They are uneducable, to put it mildly.
My recent essay on Hindu belief system will continue, notwithstanding what
the illiberal say. My article was never intended for them. I just wrote the
introductory part. The critics may have to wait until I finish the series.
There are some illiberal here in this forum who think that a person's
education finishes when they finish their undergraduate studies. In
Mymensingh I was taught mostly by doctorates. Many American professors from
Texas were there to teach us scientific subjects. That probably explains my
strength in English. Many good friends of mine have attended DU in the
1960s. Believe me, I know the level of education they have received in those
days. Therefore, it comes as no surprise why DU has failed to produce any
scholar who could be compared to Prof. Amartya Sen, Dr. Amar Bose, and more
like them.
The Old Bangla adage - "brikkhe'r porichoi fole'y" is not a threadbare
statement. Look at the product of DU's Political Science department. Nothing
to brag about, really. Professor Rashiduzzaman teaches at a famous college
in NJ and still dreams about Muslim Fundamentalist returning to Afghanistan
anytime soon. (His wishful thinking. Read his latest in NFB). This
professor gave me a free advice in 1998 that I will never forget. He asked
me to pen articles on production of an agricultural commodity in Bangladesh.
He also said to Jamal Hasan, "Who is Jamal Hasan?" On January 12, 2002,
Atlanta J. Constitution published an article
(http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/epaper/editions/saturday/news_c3f35d364285
30bb00f7.html) on US-Iran relationship. They interviewed Jamal Hasan quite
extensively for this article. Jamal's quotations are everywhere in this
article. Come to think of it, Jamal Hasan had no degrees from DU's Political
Science Department.
In the wake of September 11, 2001, Washington Post contacted me several
times for my comments. The young reporter used my comments but I asked him
not to mention my name (because I work for the US Government). Well, I never
attended DU's Sociology Department. Incidentally, one of my articles on
September 11 terrorists' attack was published in a book entitled "Voices of
Sanity - Reaching out for Peace" from New Delhi
(http://www.linda.it/voices.html). Go and see who are the other writers
whose work was selected in that volume. If the liberals are wasting their
time, then how come their articles and comments are drawing attention?
No wonder, when others offer glowing praise for liberal writers then one
illiberal guy sees the phantom of Jaffor Ullah. Perhaps the same paranoiac
will come to propound his pet idea that Jamal Hasan bribed the AJC reporter
to include his comments in today's write-up. In the same vein, he will also
say that I bribed the editor from New Delhi to include my article into the
book Voices of sanity - Reaching out for Peace.
The bottom line is -- "The dogs will be barking while the Caravan will
Pass."
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From: "paramanab" <paramanab@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 8:03 am
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand words
In response to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4059
Thanks for the article. I am astonished by your knowledge of Hindu
philosophy, because most Muslim Bangladeshis I have met tend to be
deliberately ignorant and contemptuous of everything Hindu, good or bad.
Many of them seem to be comfortable to imagine themselves as descendants of
Arabs and Turks than to concede their Hindu roots.
However, with all humility, I would like to point out that Hinduism is a
vast tradition with innumerable and often contradictory doctrines. It has no
single fountain head (unlike Islam or Christianity) but has been shaped over
time by a myriad of diverse contributions. I presume that you are going to
concentrate on the Hindu mainsteam belief-system, one we call as Brahmanya
Hinduism. I would just like to add that even outside this "brand name",
there was, and is, a plethora of fringe social and ethnic groups practising
what we may call Loukik (folk) Hinduism.
Manab
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The derisive post of MW Zaman down below shows his contempt for my writing.
He pretends to know a lot about Hinduism and therefore he could judge the
flaws in my writing. I am a person who believes in action. Talk is cheap.
I would like to see this Muslim scholar (MWZ) write few kinds words about
Vedic philosophy or Hindu way of life.
Most Bangalees from Bangladesh who are living in the comfort of secular West
are having a too cozy life. Their mind is no longer in Bangladesh. As they
are aging, they are becoming Mosque-bound and at the same time communal. It
makes perfect sense why an obscure professor originating from Dhaka would be
incensed reading my article on Hindu Belief System and calling it a work of
a novice while I receive glowing encomiums from Hindus.
Most Muslims from Bangladesh who grew up in the 50s and 60s have turned out
to be very anti-Hindu. They may maintain a good demeanor when they meet a
Hindu from Bangladesh or from West Bengal, but deep down inside they are
out-and-out a communalist. That is what happens when someone is
indoctrinated at an early age by Muslim League slogans. I have seen
thousand kids growing up in the 50s and 60s who turned up to be a staunch
anti Indian and this is by and large due to Pakistani indoctrination in the
post partition days from 1947 through 1970. Only very briefly the Bangalees
in Bangladesh saw some light from 1972 through 1975. Again the darkness had
descended in that small republic and there is no sign that it will be lifted
anytime soon. Let there be dawn in Bangladesh. However, when will it
happen is anybody's guesses.
"mwzaman" <mwz...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:46db51ba.02011...@posting.google.com...
Asif Hasan
partisan rhetoric:
(source: http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/jan/17/g17012002.htm#A3)
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On Dr. Jaffor Ullah
A.B.M. Nurul Islam
NC, USA
E-mail: NIs...@compuserve.com
NFB’s indefatigable editorial and feature writer, Dr. A.H.
Jaffor Ullah aka Abul Hasnat has accused Mr. B.Huq of suffering from
amnesia (NFB, Jan.16, 2002). Little does he realize that he is
throwing stones while living in a glass house.
Towards the fag end of Awami League’s second period of golden
rule (1996-2001), I remember Dr. Jaffor Ullah writing fiery editorials
on the futility of hartals, its damaging effect on the economy of
Bangladesh etc., etc. when BNP was calling occasional hartals. However
when Madame Sheikh Hasina started calling hartals going back on her
earlier promise not to call hartal even if she goes into opposition,
there was no protest from the Bangladesh Conscience in Self-Exile (my
apologies if I have missed his writing in this regard).
He even defends the latest Awami action as, these were in his opinion,
"peaceful strike" and sit-in. Did AL’s action plan call for
peaceful sit-ins? Did they not the call for plain and simple,
old-fashioned hartals with its concomitant traffic-off-the-road,
forced shut-down of offices/.business and in fact enforced it on the
hapless populace? The Central Office leaders and activists tried to
stage a sit-in on Bangabandhu Avenue when police would not allow them
to bring out a procession and block traffic.
Anyone who is familiar with the Avenue will know that there is hardly
any space for a sizable crowd to stage a sit-in without causing
traffic problems. Semantics will not help to cover up for intentions.
Incidentally, Mr. Mahfuz Anam also wrote a commentary in the Daily
Star on Jan. 11 denouncing in very strong words BNP’s
high-handedness in dealing with AL’s high officials and
activists, but then he balanced it by reminding the AL leadership of
their own deplorable record in dealing with the opposition when BNP
leaders and activists were prevented even from accessing their party
office, processionists were fired upon and killed, etc.
When BNP government recently floated the idea of banning hartal by
passing a law and thereby ridding the country of this pernicious
culture, Mr. Mahfuz Anam lent his support to the proposal. This I
believe is the only way out. We cannot rely on promises. However Dr.
Jaffor Ullah will possibly not support this as this proposal has come
not from his secular AL but from Jamaat-supported BNP.
Which brings me to his other hobby-horse: incessant tirade against the
Islamists e.g. Badshah Mia being killed in a mosque. Although it was
reported by the press at that time that some local people saw some
outsiders killing the policeman and then dragging the body inside the
mosque, such a possibility will not fit with Dr. Jaffor Ullah’s
pet hate. [Don’t think this possibility to be outrageous.
Only the other day it was reported in the NFB about the proposal some
forty years ago from the then US Chief of Staff (Gen. Lemnitzer) to
bomb its own army bases, put the blame on Castro and invade Cuba to
get rid of this thorn.] My question is: instead of making conjectures
and innuendoes, why did not the AL government solve ANY ONE of the
political murders, bombings that took place during its golden rule?
How come that Hasan Imams and Shamim Osmans always had miraculous
escape while the ordinary people died? And now these gentlemen are
absconding!!!
Till Dr. Jaffor Ullah learns to write with some balance and avoid
prejudice, whatever amount of midnight oil he burns and whatever be
the volume of his output, he will remain what he is: an
inconsequential internet writer!
mwzaman
W.Zaman Manik
If a writer (even if he or she is a cow essayist) can write an article
under his or her own real name, it is expected that he can also write
rebuttals under his real name. This is a normal decorum in any
scholarly exchange. Yet, A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph.D. is not willing to
follow this minimum protocol of scholarly discourse. Often he will
write his essays (seminal cow essays, to be exact), then he will use
another name either to self-appreciate his own essays or to generate
self-serving commendations in support of his absurd observations.
Aimed at filling the credibility gap and generating some kind of false
publicity about his absurd and childish ideas, he also creates some
critical observations about the contents of his articles through
floating some fictitious critics. Then he will also defend his (A.H.
Jaffor Ullah’s) absurd contentions, using another name.
There can be some exceptions, however. For instance, A.H. Jaffor Ullah
wrote an article, under the name of Abul Hasanath, on the formation of
a confederation in the Eastern India (including Bangladesh) in which
he clearly proposed the break up of eastern States of India.
Unfortunately, he had no idea what is meant the concept of
Confederation or Federation. Yet, A.H. Jaffor Ullah was quick to
appreciate through writing several rejoinders in NFB and SCBs the
efficacy of Abul Hasanath’s absurd ideas. It was detected by a
SCB poster several weeks later that A.H. Jaffor ullah was writing
under the assumed name of Abul Hasanath. When he was caught red-handed
for his forgery, he raised hue and cry. After issuing several denials,
A.H. Jaffor Ullah was literally forced to admit that he also Abul
Hasanath. His excuse was silly: he said that first parts of his name
i.e. A.H. stand for Abul Hasanath. He never apologized for committing
a forgery. As an excuse, he said that there was nothing wrong for him
to use first names of his real name in penning seminal cow essays.
However, he never dared to justify how the last parts of his name
(Jaffor Ullah) were praising the usefulness of the prescriptions
offered by the first parts of his own name (Abul Hasanath).
A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph. D. is the author of the two-part article (his
latest cow essays) on the Hindu Belief System (which appeared in NFB
and in his own Mukta-Mona hate-side). Obviously, he is responsible
for the accuracy of his comments. Yet, he is responding to various
comments on his article in employing Abul Kasem’s name
inadvertently forgetting the fact that he actually published (posted)
this two-part article on the Hindu-Belief system under his real name.
This is nothing new. In this instance, his sole object of writing on
Hindu Belief System is to show off his vast knowledge about Hinduism.
This kind of show-off tendency actually emanates from his inferiority
complex.
Since Dr. Jaffor Ullah is allergic to reading substantive books or
articles authored by recognized scholars in their respective fields, I
don’t think that A.H. Jaffor Ullah was willing to consult more
than one source (may be an encyclopedia which he often copies) before
he decided to pen a seminal essay (in two–parts thus far) on
Hindu belief system.
Jaffor Ullah should know that Hinduism is one of most well researched
religions, and there are literally thousands of works on Hinduisms in
many languages. There are hundreds of books on Hinduism of
substantive nature in English language alone. As I said it before, I
was very tricked seeing the beautiful pictures in your article on
Hindu Belief System. Yet, I found nothing in your jumbled prose or
narration that can be read for accruing any benefit. You are neither
a learned man nor a conversant individual in any of the world
religions. This observation is based on my careful perusing of your
numerous Goru Rochona over a period at least three years.
Dr. Ullah, I want you to know that it is not easy to define Hinduism
in precise terms. It is harder to pin down the essential features of
Hinduism. There is NO single founder of Hindu religion. Nor has there
been a single book or a single body of writings for Hinduism. There
are many holy books for the followers of Hinduism. These facts are at
variance with other religions (for instance, both Christianity and
Islam have founders/prophets. Ghautam Bhudha founded the Bhudhist
belief system. While the Koran is the holy book for Muslims, and Bible
is the holy book for Christians. Buddhists follow Gautam
Buddha’s sayings. These can be used as talking points for
talking about these religions).
Given the fact that Hinduism has developed out of complex religious
beliefs over a period of thousands years of experimentations and
exposures, nurtured and held by various groups of people, it is too
simplistic to pretend to know everything about Hinduism. On the other
hand, it is very hazardous to start writing essays on such complex
subject without having adequate and comprehensive knowledge about the
subject. There many scholars who are competent enough to write on
religious subjects including the Hinduism, one of the most fascinating
belief systems of the world religions. Unfortunately, you are not one
of them, Dr. jaffor ullah. It is easier to bad-mouthing Islam out of
ignorance. Yet, it is completely another matter to gain knowledge
about a particular religion. Simply put, you are not yet trained or
educated enough to write articles on any aspect of Hinduism.
Dr. J. Ullah, you might have found some materials on Hinduism in a
single book or an encyclopedia, and then instantly you started writing
or copying those in order to give birth to an extended cow essay on
Hindu belief system without even thinking where it will start and
where will it end. It is worst than abusing NFB space. However,
don’t you even think that I was not delighted seeing those
beautiful pictures. There is no dearth books where Hindu Dev-Devis
have been depicted. Thanks for inserting those pictures. Yet,
anywhere you tried to insert some of your distorted thoughts, it right
away unmasked your lack of any knowledge in Hindu belief system.
Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah, you are accustomed to appreciate yourself.
There are some readers who might be willing express their opinions.
Yet, you are not interested in those objective assessments or
appraisals of your cow essays. You don’t have guts to be engaged
in dialogue with those genuine critics. Rather, you prefer to create
some fictitious characters, and then you get engaged in an imaginary
dialogue (under your assumed name Abul Kasem) to garner some knid of
self-appreciations and self-commendations. I have characterized this
brand of dialogue as MIRJAFFORIAN DIALOGUE.
From the following pieces that I have copied from Dr. J. Ulllah's
Mukta-Mona hate-site, it will be evident that Abul Kasem is defending
(in first person) A.H. Jaffor ullah's views even though he is not the
author of the article on Hindu Belief system. It is Jaffor ullah (or
jaffor bhai!) who should be doing the talking! This is the reason I
undescore again and again that A.H. Jaffor ullah lacks credibility.
Let the readers find out for themselves the nature and relevance of
such mirjafforian dialogues as well as mirjafforian forgery.
Sincerely, M. Waheeduzzaman Manik (January 18, 2002):
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From: "Abul Kasem" <abul88@h...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2002 4:36 am
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system
No problem, Mr. Mamluk. Please accept my apology if indeed I hurt you
unknowingly.
The truth is that my (and many others like me) 'root' is with the
'nomosudra'. There is no denying this fact. I was not available during
the time when my 'root' converted to 'Islam' from 'Hinduism'. I cannot
undo the history. The only thing I could do is to banish religion (all
kinds, be Islam, Hiduism, Christ...) from my life. I have seen and
experienced enough bloodshed in the name of religion. Don't you think
that I have converted myself again from 'Islam' to 'humanism'? So my
conversion is this----from 'nomosudra Hindu' to the 'killer Islam' and
now to 'enlightened humanism'. That is why I posed to you the question
that 'shall I remain a nomosudra for ever'?
It is good to know that you are a good modern Hindu. Yes, during my
childhood days in Bengal, I have personally experienced the shameful
discriminatory treatment of the Muslims by the Hindus. Infact, some of
my best Hindu friends were very much ashamed of the actions of their
parents and used to apologise to me every time I visited their houses.
They had a separate chair (low level) for me to sit on, separate
drinking glass, separate utensils for my food etc. Am I bitter on
this? How silly! I am not at all concerned by those things. I look at
those things from historical perspectives. None of my contemporary
Hindu friends ever treated me like that. To tell you the truth my
Hindu friends were the best people I ever came across in my life. I
have no hesitation in admitting that truth.
Now, why those Hindu friends were exceptionally good to me? The answer
is very interesting. Most of those dear Hindu friends told me that
they do not really follow Hinduism at all. They only do some rituals
and that is all. They also told me that if they followed the 'real
Hinduism' it was impossible for them to befriend me. Clearly they were
Hindu in name only but 'humanist' at heart. Same goes for many
Muslims. They are really humanist at heart; but they feel obliged to
keep with their ancestors tradition by at least doing those silly
rituals. If they followed 'real Islam' then it is impossible to
befriend any one who is not a Muslim. This is clearly stated in the
Quran.
Why did I ask about hell or heaven? It has nothing to do with my
thoughts. I give a damn of where do I end up after my death. Since you
said that most Bengali Muslim's ancestors were low class Hindus; that
is why I was curious to know where will these converts end up accoding
to Hiduism after their death! It was simply a question for fun. It was
not meant to hurt or insult any one. If you take this as an insult to
you, then, of course, I am sorry for that and apologise for that.
As to the question of whether the Bengali Muslims consider themselves
as the descendents of the Arabs/Turks etc., I think I answered that
question in my previous post. Let me tell you again that most
Bangalees do not bother about such silly matters. They are quite happy
about what they are and where they came from. Of course, there are a
few nuts who claim their ancestry to even the Greeks! Some Bangalees
even claim that Tagore was a Greek!! So what shall we do about those
claims?
I am not sure if the caste system is the 'real reason' for the break
up India. But one thing I am absolutely certain is that it was the
'religious fervour' on both sides that caused the dismemberment of a
great civilisation. There is no denying the fact that we are one and
the same people. We are from the same genetic pool. We have the same
blood. Then why this division? I really do not know the answer. Deep
in my mind I see a dream. It is the dream that we (that is India,
Pakistan, Bangladesh) will, one day be one great nation by throwing
out all religious bigotry in the dustbin of history. Our progeny, one
day, will laugh at our so called leaders (Jinnah, Gandhi.....etc) for
their stupidity and silliness. They will, one day feel ashamed that
their ancestors (we) shed blood by killing their own family members
for no reason at all.
Is it an impossible dream? May be it is. May be it is not. Look at EU.
Just try to imagime EU 50 years ago. Was it an impossible dream? Look
at England and Germany about 50 years go. Look at England and France a
few centuries ago. Where were they then?
Where are they now? Did any one ever dreamt of Euro? History chages.
It surely will change the present geopgraphical boundaries of the
sub-continent. The sky is always darkest just before the day break.
This is my conviction. We cannot live in the past. Wheher the Bengali
Muslims consider themseleves as the descendents of the Arabs/Turks is
really immaterial. We must move with time. This is the only way we can
contribute our proportionate share to the human civilisation.
Remember, 'blood is thicker than water'.
I do not have the knowledge and expertise to engage in any meaningful
debate. However, if you could pardon my ignorance on many issues then
I do not mind to have discussions with you and learn from each other.
Best regards
Abul Kasem
PS. As per you wish I am sending this post to Mukto-mona forum. You
can contact Jaffor Bhai Jaf...@netscape.net I am sending a cc to him
too.
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To: "Abul Kasem"
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:46:29 -0800
Dear Mr. Kasem:
You have hurled at me quite a few tough questions that were not called
for in response to my simple and honest question about many
Bangladeshis' belief in their Arab/Persian/Turkish origin. I had asked
you that question in connection with my earlier communications with
you regarding the significance of Arabic names for non-Arabic peoples.
Before I answer your questions let me say this - you make it sound
like I am primarily responsible for all the evils of Hindu Caste
System. Nowhere in my communications with you did I mention or give
any indication that I even believe in the caste system. The way you
posed the questions to me indicates that you assume I will answer yes
to all those questions. You are wrong.
With my background(I consider myself as very progressive) I know that
Hindu CasteSystem is at the root of most political, economic and
educational problems in the Indian subcontinent. My background include
a Ph.D. from one of the leading U.S. universities and twenty five
years of work in the U.S. academia. I firmly believe that but for the
caste system there would have been no Pakistan and Bangladesh. You,
like most Indian Muslims, would not have been born and raised in a
Muslim environment. You would not have an Arabic name today.
Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and most Indian Muslims would not pride
themselves to be of Arab/Persian/Turkish ancestry.
You probably do not know that the only good thing that has happened
due to the partition of Bengal is the destruction of the belief in the
caste system among the Hindu Bengalees in all urban areas of West
Bengal. This development was unthinkable before the partition. True,
Hindus still do not have much social contact with the Muslims, but
Muslims in West Bengal and in India enjoy all other aspects of life as
much as the Hindus do. Also, Hindus have accepted Muslims in many
areas of life. To give you an example : Before the partition my
grandfather(at Bikrampur in Dacca) had a large number of Muslim
servants and workers. They would do all the work in his zamindary, but
they were not allowed within the precincts of my grandfather's
household. My grandfather used to keep some utensils and water in an
outhouse for the Muslims to eat from and drink. Today I have many
Bangladeshi friends I invite regularlyfor dinner at home as well as I
go to dinner at their houses. See, what has happened. Thoughtful
Hindus are doing away with the caste system. But tradition die hard.
Vestiges of the system still exist in rural areas and in some states.
So, the answer to your first question - your remaining a "namasudra"
for the rest of your life does not have any meaning anymore to the
modern Indians.
Your question "Is there anything wrong to be born in a low caste
Hindu?"
What made you ask that question to me? I really feel insulted for that
question. Like all educated Indians I am acutely aware of the
injustices that people of so called "low caste Hindus" suffer at the
hands of so called "upper caste Hindus".
NO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG .
Your question: "What will happen to me? Shall I go to hell or heaven?"
What made you ask these questions? You should be ashamed. With your
background I expect to hear some intelligent and educated questions
from you. I believe you owe me an apology for even asking these
questions.
My interest is not in making people suffer for some silly reasons. My
interest is in seeing that Islam is kicked out of the Indian
subcontinent for the same reasons that Dr. Ali Sina wants to kick
Islam out of Iran. It will take time, but it will happen.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards.
P.S. I think it will be a good idea to post these communications in
Mukto-Mona or in MuktoChinta. If you decide to do so, can omit my real
name and use Mamluk as my name.
By the way, how can get in touch with Jaffor Ullah. He is an
interesting man.
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From: Abul Kasem
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:46 PM
To: bas...@msn.com
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Yes, you are correct. If I dig my 'roots ' I will not be shocked to
discover that my ancestors we re 'namasudra'. Does that mean that I
must remain 'namasudra' for the rest of my life?
It is not true to say that most Bangalee Muslims consider themselves
to be the descendants of the Arabs/Persians...etc. This kind of
thought is prevalent only among the Bangalees who had converted to
Islam from the so called high caste Hindus or some Bngalees who claim
to have mixed blood with the Arab invaders and the Arab merchants.The
vast majority of the Bangalee Muslims never claim to have come from
the Arab/high class Hindus. They are quite contented to be where they
came from.
Yes, it is also true that Islam was an imported religion. My knowledge
of spread of Islam throghout the sub-continent is rather very poor.
However, I can say that Islam was spread in Bengal by a combination
the initial language of the sword and later by the Sufis.
Is there anything wrong to be born in a low caste Hindu? I happen to
source my ancestors in their fold. What will happen to me? Shall I go
to hell or heaven?
Best regards,
Abul Kasem
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From: "Debabrata Basu"
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:31:36 -0800
Do you agree with the observation of the writer of the attached e-mail
that many Bangladeshis consider themselves as descendants of Arabs and
Turks rather than of Hindus? Since I am a thorough Bengali with a
strong East Bengal connection I know that 99.99 Bangladeshi Muslims
are of Hindu origin although their ancestors originated from very low
caste Hindus. This applies to all Indian Muslims including West Bengal
Muslims.
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----- Original Message -----
From: paramanab
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:13 AM
To: mukto...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4059
Thanks for the article. I am astonished by your knowledge of Hindu
philosophy, because most Muslim Bangladeshis I have met tend to be
deliberately ignorant and contemptuous of everything Hindu, good or
bad. Many of them seem to be comfortable to imagine themselves as
descendants of Arabs and Turks than to concede their Hindu roots.
However, with all humility, I would like to point out that Hinduism
is a vast tradition with innumerable and often contradictory
doctrines. It has no single fountain head (unlike Islam or
Christianity) but has been shaped over time by a myriad of diverse
contributions. I presume that you are going to concentrate on the
Hindu mainsteam belief-system, one we call as Brahmanya Hinduism. I
would just like to add that even outside this "brand name", there was,
and is, a plethora of fringe social and ethni
From: "Abul Kasem" <abul88@h...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:59 pm
Subject: Conversion to Real Hinduism!
Dear Mr. Mamluk,
I have some free time today. So decided to reply your post.
I agree with you that the partition of India was a number's game. You
may be correct in saying that the Muslim's number in India incresed
dramatically because of the caste system in Hiduism. If my ancestors
were alive, and if I asked them 'why they converted to Islam?',
probably they will point to the caste system as well.
You want to portray Hinduism as not only a religion but a way of life
for all people with the Indian blood (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh
etc.). I really do not know what to write on this matter. Listen to
the Islamists. They are saying 'Islam is not a religion only, it is a
complete code of life for humanity'. Do you find much difference in
what the new breed of Hindus are saying and what the Islamists are
saying? I do not find much difference. They are talking similar
language. The new Hindus include all people of Indian subcontinet as
Hindus (some strayed--like Pakistan, Bangladesh) whereas the Islmaists
include the entire world. How funny that both camps have the similar
logic!
The real reason why people are different/similar are many. Amongst
them genetic make up and geographical/cultural factors are the most
important. For this reason, the people of the sub-continet may be
considerd as alike with minor differences due to regional variation.
Religion has nothing to do with it.
The genetic make up of Atal Bihari Bajpayee and Gen. Pervaiz Musharraf
is same no matter how much they differ. However the gentic make up of
Atal Bihari and another Hindu from Bali is not same no matter how much
they agree on religion. Ditto for Pervaiz Musharraf. He cannot be an
Arab Muslim or an Occcidental Muslim no matter how much they agree.
This is my view. Religion is the biggest stumbling block in the way to
humanity.
Mr. Mamluk, you have misunderstood me. I cannot talk on behalf of
Taslima, Ibn Warraq or Jaffor Ullah, but I can only talk about myself.
I have no love for any religion. Finish. I consider that I am a human
being first then anything else. It is laughable to propose to me to
convert to 'real Hinduism'. Same goes for 'real Christianity'...et al.
I know a little bit of most religions. They stink.
Why do I write exposing Islam? The answer is that I know more about
Islam beacuse of my background. This does not mean that I have
preference for any other religion. When I know a lot about another
religion (like Christianity, Hinduism..etc), I may decide to 'expose
them too'.
I cannot convince the 1 billion or so Muslims in the world to abandon
their religion overnight. But let them know more truth about their
religion which, perhaps they thought never existed. I just inform the
facts. It is up to any one whether to accept it or not.
I may be an irrelegious person but I respect people of all faith.
Simialrly, I also expect people of faith to respect my right to
express dissenting views as I respect their right of dissent on
humanism/freethinking.
I hope I have clarified my mind on matters of religion. If you think
that I am Hindu/Christian/Buddhist.....anything other than a Muslim
then I can do very little to change that perception.
Best regards.
Abul Kasem
From: "paramanab" <paramanab@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2002 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4123
Dear Mr. Kasem,
Sorry, I should not have generalized on the basis of the small
number of Bangladeshis I have met. But it seems that people belonging
to the group represented by you, Fatemolla or A H JAfforullah are
really becoming rare nowadays in BD. Particularly the young people.
To them, it seems that rejection of everything even remotely Hindu is
a matter of great pride. I am afraid if this alienation goes on, in
one or two generations, Hindu and Muslim Bengal will really evolve
into a pair of separate nations, to the delight of Jinnah Sahab's
ghost!
Manab
[This is the end of the samples of both the mirjafforian dialogue and
mirjafforian forgery]
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"Jaffor Ullah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<hXj08.10005$V55.1...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...
> Hindu from Bangladesh or from West Bengal, liitle learning can be a
mwzaman
W.Zaman Manik
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2002 4:36 am
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system
No problem, Mr. Mamluk. Please accept my apology if indeed I hurt you
unknowingly.
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Yes, you are correct. If I dig my 'roots ' I will not be shocked to
discover that my ancestors we re 'namasudra'. Does that mean that I
must remain 'namasudra' for the rest of my life?
It is not true to say that most Bangalee Muslims consider themselves
to be the descendants of the Arabs/Persians...etc. This kind of
thought is prevalent only among the Bangalees who had converted to
Islam from the so called high caste Hindus or some Bngalees who claim
to have mixed blood with the Arab invaders and the Arab merchants.The
vast majority of the Bangalee Muslims never claim to have come from
the Arab/high class Hindus. They are quite contented to be where they
came from.
Yes, it is also true that Islam was an imported religion. My knowledge
of spread of Islam throghout the sub-continent is rather very poor.
However, I can say that Islam was spread in Bengal by a combination
the initial language of the sword and later by the Sufis.
Is there anything wrong to be born in a low caste Hindu? I happen to
source my ancestors in their fold. What will happen to me? Shall I go
to hell or heaven?
Best regards,
Abul Kasem
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From: "Debabrata Basu"
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:31:36 -0800
Do you agree with the observation of the writer of the attached e-mail
that many Bangladeshis consider themselves as descendants of Arabs and
Turks rather than of Hindus? Since I am a thorough Bengali with a
strong East Bengal connection I know that 99.99 Bangladeshi Muslims
are of Hindu origin although their ancestors originated from very low
caste Hindus. This applies to all Indian Muslims including West Bengal
Muslims.
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----- Original Message -----
From: paramanab
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:13 AM
To: mukto...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4059
Thanks for the article. I am astonished by your knowledge of Hindu
philosophy, because most Muslim Bangladeshis I have met tend to be
deliberately ignorant and contemptuous of everything Hindu, good or
bad. Many of them seem to be comfortable to imagine themselves as
descendants of Arabs and Turks than to concede their Hindu roots.
However, with all humility, I would like to point out that Hinduism
is a vast tradition with innumerable and often contradictory
doctrines. It has no single fountain head (unlike Islam or
Christianity) but has been shaped over time by a myriad of diverse
contributions. I presume that you are going to concentrate on the
Hindu mainsteam belief-system, one we call as Brahmanya Hinduism. I
would just like to add that even outside this "brand name", there was,
From: "paramanab" <paramanab@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 15, 2002 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Essay]Hindu belief system: Pictures worth a thousand
words
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4123
Dear Mr. Kasem,
Sorry, I should not have generalized on the basis of the small
number of Bangladeshis I have met. But it seems that people belonging
to the group represented by you, Fatemolla or A H JAfforullah are
really becoming rare nowadays in BD. Particularly the young people.
To them, it seems that rejection of everything even remotely Hindu is
a matter of great pride. I am afraid if this alienation goes on, in
one or two generations, Hindu and Muslim Bengal will really evolve
into a pair of separate nations, to the delight of Jinnah Sahab's
ghost!
Manab
[This is the end of the samples of both the mirjafforian dialogue and
mirjafforian forgery]
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Asif Hasan
found at:
here goes the new ones.
11."Finally, I must pay homage to the few braves who took the risk to
demystify Islam. Therefore, I say "Long live Salman Rushdie. Long Live
Taslima Nasrin. Long Live Anwar Sheikh. Long Live Dr. Ali Sina. Long
Live Ibn Warraq. Long Live Prof. Ausaf Ali. Long Live Dr. Jaffor
Ullah. Long Live Fatemollah. Long Live Jamal Hasan. Long Live Kamran
Mirza. Long Live Khurshed Chowdhury. Long Live Satya Sandhani. Long
Live Mohammad Khan. Long Live Avijit Roy Long Live Shabbir Ahmed. Long
Live Jahed Ahmed. Long live Narayan Gupta. You are the pioneers. You
have taught me how to think the unthinkable. You have taught me how to
be courageous......"
-Communal Hindu organisation hindu Unity web site pays homage to
"voodoo secularist" Jaffor Ullah for trashing Islam.
Source:( http://pub6.ezboard.com/fhinduunityislamexposedarchivesonly)
12." With friends like Jaffor Ullah, do secularists need an enemy?"
-Dr. Farida Majid in an NFB debate.
13."During my very productive post-Doc stint, in 13 years I
published two articles in peer reviewed journals.
-Jaffor Ullah brags about what he did until the age of 38 other than
earning <20 K for salary.
14. "Dogs are barking while the secularists are working very hard, go
see the fruit of our hard work in Mukta Mona yahoo group."
-Jaffor Ullah.
15. "These days; new activists have formed who are playing the same
communal card, ....FFF and Taslima Nasrin, and some Indian Hindu
extremist who are nothing but enemies of the state of Bangladesh. They
are trying to destroy, the traditional pluralism, the economy, and the
image of Bangladesh to the world. "
-Samuel Sarcar, a Bangladeshi Christian,shares his sneaky observation
on FFF ( faith freedom foundation), an organisation of the so called
"Muktamona" people(Jaffor's hard work).
16."My message is open to debate, learn how to discuss the message
Leaving the messanger out."
-Jaffor's famous one liner, every time he is questioned about
his shady past.
17."For quite some time, the DS has been publishing writings of Prof.
Rashiduzzaman. .... Perhaps you would like to know another chapter of
the life of this pedagogue...."
-Same Jaffor Ullah. completely forgets to practice what he preaches
(leave the messanger blah blah) in a Dailystar article,while launching
a personal attack on Rashiduzzaman.
18."Honestly, in my observation, Bangladesh politics can not be
explained by the secularism- fundamentalism dychotomy."
-Manosh Chowdhury, a young teacher from Jahangirnagar University,
a budding columnist in the national Bengali dailies, a teacher
activist of anti-rape campaign in Jahangirnagar University, organizer
of the tribal summit in Dhaka, on February 2001, not quite convinced
by Ullah's absurd suggestions.
19. "Secularism through beauty contest?"
-Manosh Chowdhury's title, where he conspicuously puts a big question
mark on Jaffor Ullah's brand of secularism that allows
objectification of
female (human) body through beauty contest.
20."I am familiar with Jaffor Ullah's writings. Jaffor Ullah's
premeditated views are neither good for the nation nor for its
populace."
-Mahmud Khan Taser, in an web forum. Mahmud Khan Taser is the New York
correspondent of Ittefaq and UNB.
21. "Do n't call me Jonab,no one dares to, Arbi and Farsi must be
avoided at all costs."
-A Secular Bengali father of two fundamentalist Arab(?) kids, namely
Riaz Ullah and Rashad Ullah, while trying to oil Manosh Chowdhury on
his pure
bengalee name.
Concluding remarks: In my thread I have tried to show that A.H.
Jaffor Ullah is a person of ill reputation. None of these above
comments are mine. So Jaffor, remember what your good buddy suggests
in the
following:
22."Do n't blame the messanger if you can not digest the message."
-Syed Kamran Mirza.(The identity of this prolific (!)writer can be
better
verified from Jaffor Ullah)
Now what is the credibility of this Jaffor Ullah? To be more precise
what is the credibility of a writer who claims that he has inherited
writing from his family? It is known from Jaffor's article that his
dad Manzoor Ullah was completely an insane person for a major part of
his life.It is shared by Jaffor that due to mental depression (read
insanity) Manzoor Ullah could not join his job duty (.. for how
long?..well, ) for two full years.
It would not be surprising to see that this Jaffor Ullah will be
placed in a mental institution some time in the near future due to the
law of inheritance.
Jaffor Ullah
"Asif Hasan" <asif_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tarek Ali
your arse and you surely feel the pain. When rastar kukur becomes a
scribe, then all you hear is bleat, because your ear becomes incapable
of hearing human languagae.
"Jaffor Ullah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<e2B28.22226$Y17.1...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>...
Jaffor Ullah
"Tarek Ali" <tare...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
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Asif Hasan
strong words and exterme language. So he has snorted like a pig, right
and left without any resistance. That is not going to happen. He will
have to learn to leave with the return of his Karma for the rest of
his life. The SCB antidote is working, he has lost his cool
completely as truth is being revealed.
I am replicating some quotes. Some new additions have been made, the
old quotes(1-10) can be found at:
explained by the secularism- fundamentalism dichotomy."
-Manosh Chowdhury, a young teacher from Jahangirnagar University,
a budding columnist in the national Bengali dailies, a teacher
activist of anti-rape campaign in Jahangirnagar University campus,
organizer
of the tribal summit in Dhaka, on February 2001, not quite convinced
by Ullah's absurd suggestions.
19. "Secularism through beauty contest?"
-Manosh Chowdhury's NFB title, where he conspicuously puts a big
question
mark on Jaffor Ullah's brand of secularism that allows
objectification of
female (human) body through beauty contest.
20."I am familiar with Jaffor Ullah's writings. Jaffor Ullah's
premeditated views are neither good for the nation nor for its
populace."
-Mahmud Khan Taser, in an web forum. Mahmud Khan Taser is the New York
correspondent of Ittefaq and UNB.
21. "Do n't call me Jonab,no one dares to, Arbi and Farsi must be
avoided at all costs."
-The Secular Bengali father of two fundamentalist Arab(?) kids, namely
Riaz Ullah and Rashad Ullah, while trying to oil Manosh Chowdhury on
his pure
bengalee name.
Concluding remarks: In my thread I have tried to show that A.H.
Jaffor Ullah is a person of ill reputation. None of these above
comments are mine. So Jaffor, remember what your good buddy suggests :
22."Do n't blame the messanger if you can not digest the message."
-Syed Kamran Mirza.(The identity of this prolific (!)writer can be
better
verified from Jaffor Ullah).
Now what is the credibility of this Jaffor Ullah? To be more precise
what is the credibility of a writer who claims that he has inherited
writing from his family? It is known from Jaffor's article that his
dad Manzoor Ullah was completely an insane person for a major part of
his life.It is shared by Jaffor that due to mental depression (read
insanity) Manzoor Ullah could not join his job duty (.. for how
long?..well, ) for two full years.
It would not be surprising to see that this Jaffor Ullah will be
placed in a mental institution some time in the near future due to the
law of inheritance.
-Asif Hasan
Jaffor Ullah
bleating. Could someome please help the goat?
"Asif Hasan" <asif_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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mwzaman
> "Jaffor Ullah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<tYe38.36703$Y17.3...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>...
> > ---------------------
> > News From Bangladesh
> > January 21, 2002
> > > Feature
> >
> > Ijtema or a charade?
> >
> > By A.H. Jaffor Ullah
> >
> >..............................(deleted)........................
>
> > The last big part - The Akheri Munazat - became so popular
> > that most politicians would go to the Ijtema ground to be a part of it. In
> > Islam, women are barred from going to mosque, but women in Bangladesh are
> > not paying attention to scriptural dictum. The Tablig Movement is also
> > encouraging Bangladesh's women to take part in religious revival movement.
> > This scribe remembers very vividly reading in the Internet news dailies from
> > Dhaka that in the year 2001, both the seating PM Hasina Wazed and the leader
> > of the opposition Mrs. Khaleda Zia had attended the Akheri Munazat.
> >
> >............................ (deleted)...........................
>
>
> There is no dictum in Islam, scriptural (i.e. Qura'nic) or otherwise,
> that says women are barred from going to mosques. Most of the smaller
> local mosques in our country don't have any arrangements for women
> simply because women are not obligated in Islam to attend prayers in
> congregation. To my knowledge currently only three mosques in Dhaka
> have good arrangements for women to participate in Juma as well as in
> all five daily prayers: (1) Baitul Mukarram national mosque (on an
> upper floor), (2) The Malibagh mosque run by Jamaat-i-Islami, and (3)
> Ahmadiya (Quadiani) mosque in Bakshi Bazaar.
>
> In my opinion there should be more arrangements for women at mosques.
> Bangladeshi women's mosque attendance is very low compared to most
> other Muslim nations. Even in India the attendance rate is very high
> at big mosques - once during my visit to Delhi I have personally seen
> not less than 400 women attending a Friday congregation at the Delhi
> Jame Mosque. The number of women visting the Friday prayer at Baitul
> Mukarram is dismal compared to what I saw in Delhi.
MY Response to Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah
W.Zaman Manik
Dr. Jaffor Ullah will say anything to tarnish the religious faith of
Muslims.
According to his Mirjafforian analysis: "In Islam, women are barred
from going to mosque, but women in Bangladesh are not paying attention
to scriptural dictum."
Mr. Moin Ahmed's timely comments clearly demonstrate that Islam does
not provide any sanction against women from participating in parayers
in a mosque.
Thanks for pointing out the fact. This is the way to refute the
absurdities of Mirjafforian propaganda against the Muslims of
Bangladesh.
I have seen in many places in the USA where a host of American as well
as foreign born Muslims attend Friday prayers in the mosque. As a
regular mosque goers both at U/Ch, Illinois, Cincinnati, Ohio, and New
York, Dr. Jaffor Ullah knows it better that non-Bengali women do
attend prayers in a mosque.
Dr. Ullah substitutes fictions for facts. He has developed a fancy for
falsehoods. His cow essays are characterized by distortions,
fabrications, and falsehoods. For instance, Bangladesh, according to
A.H. Jaffor Ullah, Ph.D., has become a Taliban country. The whole
world knows that it is a blatant lie. According to his Mirjafforian
verdict, most Bangladeshis have become supporters of Taliban type of
Government. This is nothing but blatant falsehood. According to his
mirjafforian thesis, the root of all evils in Bangladesh is Islam, the
religion of the overwhelming majority Bangladesh. This is a
mirjafforian brand of fabrication.
Dr. Ullah, has been nabbed for using fake names. Of all those phony
names, A.H. Jaffor Ullah has employed the assumed the name of Abul
Kasem to bad-mouth the Islamic faith of Muslims. In a recent post,
A.H. Jaffor Ullah made a promise to provide the real identity of Abul
Kasem. Yet, he has come up with more cooked up stories about the
imaginary existence of one Abul Kasem in Sydney. Abul kasem's
write-ups are being posted everywhere from Jaffor Ullah's computer.
Abul kasem is freely copying Mirjafforian writing styles. Abul Kasem
is using Jaffor Ullah's Mirjafforian logic and dictions. Yet, Jaffor
Ullah is now telling us that he does not even know whether Abul Kasem
is the real name of Abul Kasem. What does it mean? It means that A.H.
Jaffor Ullah is Abul kasem.
If any Engineering faculty from Sydney, with any other name other than
ABUL KASEM, volunteers to claim that he is writing under the assumed
name of Abul Kasem would fail to clear Jaffor Ullah's name. Now ten or
twenty mirjafforian cohorts might sing, " I am Abul Kasem, I am Abul
kasem". Yet, it will, at best, sound like "I am Spartacus, "I am
spartacus."
There is little wonder who remains like a recluse in New Orleans can
dare to offer $100000 dollar reward if some one can prove that Jaffor
Ullah is also Abul Kasem. I would not have accepted the challenge even
if the reward was $10 dollars. To me, it sounded like selling a sea
side property in the middle of Kansas state. How can you prove Abul
Kasem's identity? All Jaffor Ullah had to say that Abul kasem is not
the real name of Abul Kasem.
However, I never doubted that Dr. Ullah does not have that much of
money, and I believe that he may be worth more than that. I wish him
well. After all a recluse can avoid a lot of social gatherings. Even
if a recluse attends some gatherings or even birthday parties, budget
for some presents may not exceed $2.99 or $3.99. That's a saving too.
I am aware of the fact that some miserly (Keepta or QONJUS, am I
correct?) people deliberately avoid attending the wedding ceremonies
of fellow Bangladeshis.
For instance, there was a Bangladeshi wedding ceremony at Baton
Rougue, Louisina in early January, 1998. Many people from many states
attended the wedding ceremony. Given the fact that we are very close
with the couple whose daughter's wedding attracted so many Bangladeshi
friends to Baton Rougue, we would not missed that occassion under any
circumstance. Since we were in Bangladesh at that time, we missed it.
We still regret that. On my return, I came to know that all invited
guests from New Orleans had attended that wedding with the exception
of one Bangladeshi person: his name is A.H. jaffor ullah. That's his
choice. May be he was preoccupied with the important task of helping
Bangladesh through penning important Goru Rochona.
I need to point out that only an arrogant fool can show off his
financial power to browbeat his fellow countrymen for expressing
disagreement with him. Dr. Jaffor Ullah, you have every right to hold
as well as express your own opinions. I have good friendship with many
dear friends whose political views are wholly different from theirs.
Dr. Ullah, I am, once again, requesting you to write under your own
name. Please stop your vilification capaign against Bangladesh and
Bangladeshis. I also request you to demonstrate some kind of decency
toward other human beings. Charity must begin at home. Thanks. W.Zaman
Manik (Jan. 27, 2002)
P.S. Following materials have been copied from the Mukta-Mona
Hate-site to demonstrate that Dr. A.H. jaffor ullah is not willing to
stop slandering Bangladesh under his his assumed named Abul Kasem:
[Reprinted from MUKTAMONA Website (or Khudra-Mona Hate-site)]
From: "Abul Kasem" <abul88@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 26, 2002 9:06 pm
Subject: RE: [eShomabesh] FW: Minority Atrocities and Foreign
Conspirators
Dear Mr. Mohammad Hossain;
Would you kindly ask the Islamic components of BNP what is their
agenda? Have you read the election manifesto of Jamaati Islam? They
have clearly stated that their goal is to establish an 'Islamic state
in Bangladesh.' Does BNP support this agenda of JI or not? If yes,
then what I have written is completetely correct. If not, then answer
why does BNP go into power sharing with the supporters of Talibans and
the supporters of 'Islamic states'.
If you are angry and upset after reading my essay/s then I am sorry
for that but I standby of what I have I have written (I guess you are
referring to my essay 'The Janus face of Islam'). Please show me that
what I have written is wrong/illogical or not true.
Best regards
Abul Kasem
>From: Mohammad Hossain
>Reply-To: eshom...@yahoogroups.com
>To: "'eshom...@yahoogroups.com'"
>Subject: RE: [eShomabesh] FW: Minority Atrocities and Foreign
Conspirators
>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:46:46 -0500
>
>Mr.. Abul Kasem:
>
>Restrain yourself and may I ask you to hold your breath! Your
whole-sale
>blame on Muslims Society of Bangladesh is completely unacceptable.
>
>I will make this short and to the point. Your comments of
establishing an
>"Islamic Paradise in Bangladesh..." is completely outrageous and
extremely
>provoking and ridiculously self centered. It appears you are etching
for a
>fight. Instead of addressing how we can get red of this evil social
unrest
>and punish those responsible, you are diverting your discussion to
something
>that has nothing to do with Islam. Islamic party in the current
>administration is bare minimum minority. How much influence do they
have in
>creating social unrest and terrorizing minorities? Just do the math
and
>then make any wholesale comment.
>
>Your intentions are quite evil. You know full well that social
injustice
>existed in Bangladesh long before Begum Zia took office. In fact it
has
>existed from time of Sk. Mujib. For last thirty-one years we have
change of
>government like those actors on a stage and no one, I say NO ONE has
>addressed the issues of enemy-property and minority oppression. Even
AL,
>supposedly the best protectors of the minorities hid the whole issue
under
>the rug. Why? Because many AL ministers, MPs and thugs were and still
are
>sitting on minority properties. What do you call them, Islamic
Terrorists.
>That will probably include yourself too.
>
>I have been reading your anti-Islamic and anti-Muslim rhetoric for
some
>time. What is your goal? Is it to solve social injustice or just to
shift
>blame and create propaganda and smear campaign against Islam and
Muslims.
>
>I am highly suspicious of your real identity. No offense please.
>
>Regards to all.
>
>
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mwzaman
W.Zaman Manik
A. Response to Mirjafforian Lies
Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah does not tolerate dissenting views. He can't
take it if someone criticizes his untenable comments. He brands all of
his critics as fundamentalists and Muslim leaguers. What were our
faults? Our only fault was that we decided to challenge his brand of
mirjafforian lies, distortions and fabrications. I always express my
views without fearing mirjafforian repraisals. I am alone accountable
for the accuracy of my statements, and I am alone responsible for my
views. Neither my brother nor any of my friends can be slandered for
my views. Unfortunately, Dr. Ullah does not subcribe to such minimum
precept of human decency. He wants to slander anybody for disagreeing
with him. After calling me Maulana, fundamentalist, Islamic-Minded
Moulovi, a Muslim Leaguer, Jaffor ullah characterized Dr. Kamal
siddiqui, one particular person for whom I have the deepest love,
respect, and admiration.
Completely unprovoked and uncalled for, A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph.D. has
deliberately and wilfully manufactured and disseminated slanderous
falsehoods about Dr. Kamal Siddiqui, the Pricipal Secreatary of the
Prime Minister's Secteriate of the Peoples' Republic of Bangladesh.
Characterizing Dr. Kamal Siddiqui a "COMMUNAL," Dr. Ullah has been
trying to defame the unblemished character and reputation of the
Pricipal Secretary of Bangladesh Government. I am respectfully
requesting A.H. Jaffor Ullah. Ph.D., an employee of the Department of
Argiculture of the US Federal Government and a resident of Slidel (or
Sliding?), Louisina to back up his preposterous allegations against
Dr. Kamal Siddiqui with credible evidence. If you, Dr. Jaffor ullah,
fail to prove your accusation, I want you to apologize to the readers
of SCB(hopefully, apology to the SCB readers will be adequate)for
deliberately slandering Dr. Kamal Siddiqi's reputation.
Having said this, I want to add that you, Dr. Jaffor ullah or anybody
else, are at liberty to critically discuss any person's public actions
or inaction or accomplishments. No one is immune from objective
criticism. You have every right to criticize someone public actions.
Yet, you are not at liberty to slander another person'e reputation or
life long accomplishments. I don't see anything wrong if you have any
question about Dr. Kamal siddiqui's role before, during, and after
liberation war. May be you don't know anything about him. Yet, you are
not at liberty to slander another person'e reputation or life long
accomplishments by calling him a communal. I feel dismayed when I
found out that you have tried to defame a person's reputation without
even collecting adequate information about his background, service
records, and accoplishments.
B. MY Comments on Mirjafforian Self-Deceptions
A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph.D. had done it before, and I am pretty sure he
will do it again: he temporarily disappears from SCB whenever he is
nabbed by the concerned readers for name-calling, name-dropping,
lying, cheating, distorting, and fabricating only to reappear again
under his real name and various phony names. Whenever Jagffor ullah
disappears, the posters under fake names (such as Abul Kasem,
Shirajuddin Shoppon, Rezwan Siddiqui Khokan (I requested Dr. Ullah not
abuse the name of Khokan because he is no more a Khoka at the age of
56. Apparently, he has conceded to my request. I am grateful to Dr.
Ullah for this concession) also disappear. What a coincidence!
Jaffor Ullah does not know the differences between the words like
INCIDENCE and INCIDENT. Neither Shirajuddin Shoppon nor Abul Kasem
could understand the difference between these familiar words. What a
coincidence! Dr. Ullah does not know the real meaning of the words
like CONFEDERATION. Federation, and CIVIL SOCIETY. Dr. Jaffor Ullah's
mirjafforian creatures (i.e. Abul Kasem and others) also don't know
the meaning of these words. Like Jaffor ullah, his creatures also
assume that there is no civil society in Bangladesh. What a
coincidence! Only a few days back, Jaffor Ullah (in his cow essay
titled warlordism in Afghanistan (NFB, Feb.1) used the word INSTITUTE
with reference to warlordism. Appatrently, Dr. Ullah does not know the
difference between Institute and institution! Both Kasem and Jaffor
ullah think that there exists no diffrence between these terms. What
a coincidence? Both Jaffor ullah and Abul can't spell Sydney properly.
Both of them needed Mr. Shakil Sarwar's goading for corrrecting the
spelling. Instead of SIDNEY, both of them started writing SYDNEY.
Since when? Only after Dr. Ullah was caught red handed for committing
a forgery. What a coincidenc!
Both Abul Kasem and A.H. Jaffor Ullah have serious problem with proper
usage of the syntax, preposition, and pronouns. Both of them
demonstrate the exactly identical problems with their diction. What a
coincidence! Both of them think alike and writee alik. They share
identical views and beliefs. What a coincidence! J. ullah writes
essay--- cow essays to be precise. Yet, the imaginary Kasem defends
what Jaffor Ullah wrote. What a coincidence!
Always in service and with respect,
Sincerely, W.Zaman Manik (Feb. 3, 2002)
mwz...@aol.com (mwzaman) wrote in message news:<46db51ba.02012...@posting.google.com>...
mwzaman
sub...@aol.com (SuBain) wrote in message news:<20020203150636...@mb-mc.aol.com>...
“Wahiduzzaman Manik,
Don't you have any shame? You got a Ph.D. degree, teaching at a
college in America, how could you stay so stupid?
Won't you feel ashamed if your students knew that you have been
distorting someone's name in the internet newsgroups for month after
month to make some kind of a point?
No, it would not be my business to tell your students. Nor would I
respond to any idiotic way you or your buddies might respond to this
post.”
MY RESPONSE TO SUBAIN: Bain, you asked for a response. Bain, you did
it again with your poisonous venom. You are very upset with me because
I was one of the few posters who had exposed your hidden agenda
against Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. Instead of refuting my
observations or arguments, you, as a collaborator of Dr. A.. Jaffor
ullah, decided to insult me. It is Jaffor Ullah who has disseminated
blatant falsehoods and distortions about others. His main
preoccupation is name- calling and name-dropping. He called me a
Moulovi, Maulana, a Muslim Leaguer etc. Instead of calling him names,
I respectfully responded to his vulgar comments. Whenever I refer to
his name, I cite his full name as Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah or Dr. Ullah,
for short. Many people called him Janowar Ullah. His name has been
distorted by many posters excepting me. Any proof? Bain, just type
his full name, you will find the proof. Did you ever ask Dr. Ullah why
did he disseminate slanderous comments about other human beings? I
know the answer is in the negative?
Yes, I have related Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah's name to Mir Jaffor Ullah.
Yet, I have done that without distorting or puncturing his real name.
I have no disrepect for his name. For that reason, I always use his
name as Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah. Any proof? Just type his real name, you
will see the proof that I have cited his full name more respectfully
than any body else in the newsdgroup. Let me make it clear that Dr.
A.H. Jaffor ullah is not related to Mir Jaffor Ali Khan.
Indeed, there are many differences between Mir Jaffor Ali Khan and Dr.
Jaffor ullah. Mir Jaffor was a deeply religious man. Mir Jaffor had
no Ph.D. Nor was he known for any kind of indecency. He was not a
secularist of any kind.
On the ine hand, Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah is not a religious man at this
phase of his life. Dr. Ullah has a Ph.D. Unlike Mir Jaffor, Dr.
jaffor Ullah has earned a reputation for his vulgar behavior. Unlike
Mir jaffor, Dr. Jaffor Ullah is a self-declared secularist.
Although there are similarities between Mir Jaffor and Dr. Jaffor
Ullah, there are certain similarties between them. Like Mir Jaffor,
Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah does not demonstrate his loyalty to his country.
Dr. Ullah regularly writes or speaks against the interest of
Bangladesh. Proof? Just type his name in the Google search. In
collaboration with the sworn enemies of Bangladesh, A.H. Jaffor ullah
has been disseminating falsehoods and distortions about Bangladesh and
Bangladeshis. Bangladesh bashing is his preoccupastion. I have
charcterized this kind of behavior as Mijafforian behavior. Since he
spread slandesrous comments about Bangladesh and Bangladeshis, I have
of charcterized such betrayals as Mirjafforian betrayals or
mirjafforian distortions. As a citizen of Bangladesh, I have every
right to use the word MIRJAFFOR to substitute for a TRAITOR. As a
Bangladesh victim of a Mirjafforian betrayal in 1757, I am entitled to
use Mirjaffor as an accepted word for a betrayer. Therefore, anything
Dr. A.H. jaffor Ullah does disseminate with a malice intent to defame
Bangladesh and Bangladeshis can be characterized as a Mirjafforian
treachery. Bain, it nothing personal. For better or worse, Mir Jaffor
is a notorious character of our history. To me, Dr. Ullah's actions
are mirjafforian. His mockery is a mirjafforian mockery. His thoughts
are mirjafforian thoughts. These are not distortions of any kind.
In view of this, it is evident that I am not the one who has distorted
Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah's name. Bain, there is nothing wrong for a Ph.D.
degree holder to be a little bit patriotic. It is you who has no
shame, and s shameless character like you are not in a position to
lecture me on civility. Unlike you, I am admired by my students and
peers for my honesty, integrity and professional excellence. It is you
who is communal. All of us know it very well that you are an indecent
man without any character. If you had an iota of decency in your
character, you would not have worked against sovereignty of
Bangladesh. You are a sworn enemy of Bangladesh. A snake like Bain
does not know any other way to repay his debt of gratitude to a
country that fed him and nurtured him to grow. Hopefully, this
response should adequately demonstrate that I am willing to challenge
the validity or reliability of Mirjafforian falsehoods and
fabrications.
Sincerely,
W.zaman Manik (Feb. 9, 2002)
Following response had prompted SUBAIN to post the maligning letter
with an intent to insult me:
MY RESPONSE TO MIRJAFFORIAN LIES AND DISTORTIONS
W.Zaman Manik
A. Response to Mirjafforian Lies
Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah does not tolerate dissenting views. He can't
take it if someone criticizes his untenable comments. He brands all of
his critics as fundamentalists and Muslim leaguers. What were our
faults? Our only fault was that we decided to challenge his brand of
mirjafforian lies, distortions and fabrications. I always express my
views without fearing mirjafforian repraisals. I am alone accountable
for the accuracy of my statements, and I am alone responsible for my
views. Neither my brother nor any of my friends can be slandered for
my views. Unfortunately, Dr. Ullah does not subcribe to such minimum
precept of human decency. He wants to slander anybody for disagreeing
with him. After calling me Maulana, fundamentalist, Islamic-Minded
Moulovi, a Muslim Leaguer, Jaffor ullah characterized Dr. Kamal
siddiqui, one particular person for whom I have the deepest love,
respect, and admiration.
Completely unprovoked and uncalled for, A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph.D. has
deliberately and wilfully manufactured and disseminated slanderous
falsehoods about Dr. Kamal Siddiqui, the Pricipal Secreatary of the
Prime Minister's Secteriate of the Peoples' Republic of Bangladesh.
Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah disseminated following falsehood about Dr. Kamal
Siddtqui: " Dr. Kamal Siddiqui is a genuine communalist. I have a
witness living in Baton Rouge who heard him say nasty things about
Bangladesh's Hindu not once but many times."
Characterizing Dr. Kamal Siddiqui as a "COMMUNAL," Dr. Ullah has been
trying to defame the unblemished character and reputation of the
Pricipal Secretary of Bangladesh Government. I am respectfully
requesting A.H. Jaffor Ullah. Ph.D., an employee of the Department of
Argiculture of the US Federal Government and a resident of Slidel (or
Sliding?), Louisina to back up his preposterous allegations against
Dr. Kamal Siddiqui with credible evidence. If you, Dr. Jaffor ullah,
fail to prove your accusation, I want you to apologize to the readers
of SCB(hopefully, apology to the SCB readers will be adequate)for
deliberately slandering Dr. Kamal Siddiqi's reputation.
Having said this, I want to add that you, Dr. Jaffor ullah or anybody
else, are at liberty to critically discuss any person's public actions
or inaction or accomplishments. No one is immune from such objective
criticism. You have every right to criticize someone's public actions.
I don't see anything wrong if you have any question about Dr. Kamal
siddiqui's role before, during, and after liberation war. May be you
don't know anything about him. Yet, you are not at liberty to slander
another person's reputation or life-time accomplishments by calling
him a communal. I feel dismayed when I found out that you have tried
to defame Dr. Kamal Siddiqui's reputation without even collecting
adequate information about his background, his service records, and
his career accoplishments.
B. MY Comments on Mirjafforian Self-Deceptions
A.H. Jaffor ullah, Ph.D. had done it before, and I am pretty sure he
will do it again: he temporarily disappears from SCB whenever he is
nabbed by the concerned readers for name-calling, name-dropping,
lying, cheating, distorting, and fabricating only to reappear again
under his real name and various phony names. Whenever Jagffor ullah
disappears, the posters under fake names (such as Abul Kasem,
Shirajuddin Shoppon, Rezwan Siddiqui Khokan (I requested Dr. Ullah not
abuse the name of Khokan because he is no more a Khoka at the age of
56. Apparently, he has conceded to my request. I am grateful to Dr.
Ullah for this concession) also disappear. What a coincidence!
Jaffor Ullah does not know the differences between the words like
INCIDENCE and INCIDENT. Neither Shirajuddin Shoppon nor Abul Kasem
could understand the difference between these familiar words. What a
coincidence! Dr. Ullah does not know the real meaning of the words
like CONFEDERATION. Federation, and CIVIL SOCIETY. Dr. Jaffor Ullah's
mirjafforian creatures (i.e. Abul Kasem and others) also don't know
the meaning of these words. Like Jaffor ullah, his Mirjafforian
creatures also assume that there is no civil society in Bangladesh.
What a coincidence!
Only a few days back, Jaffor Ullah (in his cow essay titled warlordism
in Afghanistan (NFB, Feb.1) used the word INSTITUTE with reference to
warlordism. Appatrently, Dr. Ullah does not know the difference
between Institute and institution! Both Kasem and Jaffor ullah think
that there exists no diffrence between these terms. What a
coincidence? Both Jaffor ullah and Abul Kasem can't spell Sydney
properly.
Both of them needed Mr. Shakil Sarwar's goading for corrrecting the
spelling. Instead of SIDNEY, both of them started writing SYDNEY.
Since when? Only after Dr. Ullah was caught red handed for committing
a forgery. What a coincidenc!
Both Abul Kasem and A.H. Jaffor Ullah have serious problem with proper
usage of the syntax, prepositions, and pronouns. Both of them
demonstrate exactly the identical problems with their diction. What a
coincidence! Both of them think alike and writee alik. They share
identical views and beliefs. What a coincidence! J. ullah writes
essays--- cow essays to be precise. Yet, the imaginary Kasem defends
what Jaffor Ullah wrote. What a coincidence!
Always in service and with respect,
Sincerely, W.Zaman Manik (Feb. 3, 2002)
mwz...@aol.com (mwzaman) wrote in message news:<46db51ba.02020...@posting.google.com>...
> MY RESPONSE TO MIRJAFFORIAN LIES AND DISTORTIONS
>
> W.Zaman Manik
>
>
> A. Response to Mirjafforian Lies
>
Rest of this is deleted to avoid duplication of the same materials.
mwzaman
Siddique Khokan is the assumed named of Jaffor Ullah. Once again, A.H.
Jaffor Ullah, Ph.D. has used a bogus name to malign others. Only Dr.
Jaffor Ullah is fond of using Mirjafforian style of writing in
English. This is an up-date on Dr.A.H. Jaffor Ullah's activities.
Thanks. Sincerely, W.Zaman Manik
(NFB, Feb. 26, 2002)
Much ado ‘bout nothing: Bashing Human Rights group has become a
pastime for some Bangladeshis
By Rezwan Siddique Khokon
College Park, Maryland
E-mail: khokon...@hotmail.com
First it was the news of minority’s plights in the hands of
BNP-JI goondas that flood the cyber newspaper and discussion group.
Then there was a lull towards the end of November and throughout
December. Then the floodgate opens to bash whoever labeled Bangladesh
as a next generation Taliban nations and whoever wrote that Bangladesh
had become a denizen of Islamists, pseudo-Islamists, and even
born-again Muslims.
A torrent of insults and appellation were hurled at any person or
organizations that came forward to upheld the civil rights of
minorities in Bangladesh. These people or organization stood up to
protect the minority rights of people in Bangladesh. Instead of
commending them for their volition, a host of expatriates woke up from
their long slumber to bash these people or their organization.
If my memory serves me right, then I think that in NFB some
freethinkers first started writing articles depicting the misery of
minority women (Mr. Siraj Uddin Shopon wrote few articles in early
October 2001). Of course, they wrote their comments based on news that
were coming out from Bangladesh in the aftermath of October 1st
parliamentary election that took place throughout Bangladesh.
The supporters of the pseudo-nationalist BNP and the hard-core Islamic
party JI was so much thrilled that they did not pay much attention to
the minority plights. They opined that this hue and cry about the
minority repression will subside as time passes by.
On the contrary, they saw that many western news agencies such as BBC
started giving prominence to the news of minority women being raped
and the old being physically beaten. This wide publicity was hurting
Bangladesh economically too. They were losing their quota for RMG
because the entire world was reading the nasty development that was
taking place in Bangladesh.
When all these were going on in the mid December, then a few
expatriates Bangladeshis thought they have to do the damage control or
else both the image and economy of Bangladesh will be devastated. They
further opined that this worrisome development did not look good
because Bangladesh had prospered enormously under the leadership of
Sheikh Hasina of secularist party of Bangladeshž the Awami League.
They feared that if this downward journey continues in Bangladesh,
then the citizens may hit the street asking for the resignation of the
PM and her entire cabinet. Bangladesh is renown for hosting this sort
of event (1954, 1969, 1971, 1990, 1996). They saw the ominous prospect
and they fretted.
Here now comes the strong denunciation from Shetubondhon, Alochona,
e-shomabesh, scb, and even NFB. "Maar, maar, kaat, kaat" that was the
take home message from these counter-campaigns organized by few
diehards Muslim Bangladeshis. These latecomers who failed to denounce
the present government’s inability to check its goon all over
Bangladesh (these goons in Chittagong butchered one reputed
Muktijuddha and principal of Nazirhat College, Mr. Muhuri in broad
daylight; incidentally, Mr. Muhuri was a Hindu college professor and
administrator) were now very vocal for the last 2 months.
First they established that there was no minority repression; these
were all propaganda from Awami League. Then, they established that one
of the human rights group for minorities in Bangladesh located in the
west coast of America may have ties with the BJP. These latecomers
Bangladeshi expatriates made so much hullabaloo in the Internet on
this issue that they led the cyber readers to believe that first there
was no repression on minorities whatsoever; second, this news of
repression was engineered by some BJP operatives living in the west
coast.
In this respect, the credit goes to both Mr. Badrul Haque, a self
proclaimed Bangladeshi leader managing the organization BAFI from
Washington D.C. and Mr. Munshi (from Dhaka) for this interesting
revelation. Mr. Munshi even termed his sermon as "Sinister plots
against Bangladesh." Another Muslim Bangladeshi professor Mr. Omar
Farooq also joined this drum beating in Shetubondhon forum.
Some of these folks were clever enough to extract a clean bill of
health from one visiting US congressman who just happened to have
returned from a short trip to Bangladesh. The visiting Congressman
never did visit the backwaters of Bangladesh where minority repression
normally happens. He just was visiting the urban city center; thus, he
opined that he did not see any vestiges of Talibanism in Bangladesh.
The same Congressman would have changed his mind had he visit the
village Ananda Prasad in Bhola where minorities were tortured
immediately after the election on October 1, 2001. The same
Congressman would have changed his mind had he visited the Chittagong,
Noakhali, and Comilla district.
Our expatriates from Bangladesh would like to believe that Bangladesh
is a moderate Muslim nation. This is the image that would bolster our
image in the wake of post-election violence throughout Bangladesh.
This fabrication that a sinister plot was made in the west coast of
America by BJP operative is a lie of mega-proportion. Whom they are
deluding by such propaganda machine? Let us have the courage to face
the fact that Bangladesh has become another Islamic paradise.
This is the nation where over 4 million people participated in an
Islamic outdoor festival not too long ago. This is the nation where we
have tens and thousands of madrassahs. The minority repression is
nothing new in Bangladesh. It happened in the 1946-47, again in 1964,
1971 (a mammoth killing took place in 1971alone by the axis of
Pakistani military and Jamaati goons).
During the presidency of Ziaur Rahman and H.M. Ershad the minorities
of Chittagong Hill Tracts suffered a great deal. The whole world knows
about it. Now the Hindus are paying very heavily for belonging to a
minority community. The main interest lies in the fact that the Hindus
still own some properties and businesses in Bangladesh. The Islamic
goons want to gobble up these income generating properties. Therefore,
my friends, let us not fool ourselves thinking that there are no
ulterior motives for minority repression in Bangladesh.
Can we tone down our rhetoric on the alleged connection between the
human rights organization to protect the rights of minorities in
Bangladesh and the Hindu fundamentalists in India and conversely focus
on how to end these repressions. The first thing to admit here is that
a mammoth repression (including rapes, snatching of ornaments, severe
beating, etc.) indeed took place against the Hindus in rural
Bangladesh. Or else all these "shak deye maach dhaka" ploys will look
like an infantile idea when the truth will come out one way or the
other.
Let us all work to the goal of eradicating civil rights violation of
all kinds in Bangladesh. Less talk and more work should be our
moolmantra.
(This Mirjafforian letter has been reprinted from News From
Bangladesh, Feb. 26, 2002)
mwzaman
language Bain can use against Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. This is not
the first time. He has done it before. :
Reprinted from MUKTAMONA web-site:
From: "Sukhamaya Bain" <subain2002@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: Kashmir
WHY KASHMIR SHOULD REMAIN WITH INDIA
In 1947, Pakistan was created as a state for the Muslims. Although
major leaders like Gandhi and Nehru and minor leaders like Jogen
Mondal probably thought that the new country would stop at the
emancipation of the Muslim underclass. Giving education, power and
human dignity to an underclass is always worth supporting. However,
over the last fifty-four years Pakistan and socalled Bangladesh
(better term as formal East Pakistan ) have clearly proven to be more
for discrimination, hatred and naked acts of barbarism against the
non-Muslims than for the emancipation of the Muslims of so-called
Bangladesh.
From a humanitarian point, the civilized world should not allow the
Indian part of Kashmir to be given to Pakistan. Both (so-called )
Bangladesh and Pakistan have proven that if Kashmir were to be part of
Pakistan, the non-Muslims of that land would meet systematic and
government sponsored brutality and expulsion from their homes. Even if
the majority of Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan, or independent,
the civilized world should care about the future of the non-Muslims of
that land. In other words, uncivilized treatment of minorities should
not be permitted in the name of giving irresponsible people the right
to self-determination.
Here is another point about Kashmir where the Indian leaders and the
media have not done a very good job. In 1947, when Pakistan invaded
the kingdom of Kashmir, the king sought help from India and signed his
country's accession to India. Technically, all of Kashmir is part of
India. Technically, Pakistan remains a criminal occupier of a part of
Kashmir. The UN resolution of 1948 called for Pakistan to vacate
Kashmir, and for India to give a plebiscite there. Pakistan never
vacated Kashmir, yet they have pretty much convinced the world that
India was in violation of that UN resolution. What a shame, the
criminal gets the upper hand in the diplomatic front!
I find it absurd that India talks about bilateral talk on Kashmir with
Pakistan. When a looter occupies part of your home, would it be
honorable of you to negotiate with him? No. You need to go to the
court, to neighbors who might be good, to the world that can see the
crime of invasion. On Kashmir, India should talk bilateral with the
UN, multilateral with the US, the UK, and others. India should not
show much interest in talking with Pakistan, even in the presence of
the world. This pan-Islamic talk of "Kashmir is in our blood"
(Mosharraf's speech) is nothing but hatred against the Hindus. We the
non-Muslim of the Indian subcontinent, including the leaders of India,
should make this point clear to the world.
with best wishes
Sukhamaya Bain, Ph.D.
44 Hickory Lane
Waterford, CT 06385
Asif Hasan
style is the dress of thoughts ."
- Chesterfield
One's writing style owes it both: to the language and the thought. It
is just not the choice and the use of the words. Just like one's style
for walking, one's diction in writing can be very private and peculiar
to an individual.This can never be immitated.It is a general,universal
law.
However one will be utterly surprised by the reappearance of the same
type of diction, when it comes to the Islam basher ex/anti/non Muslim
writers in the cyber forums(read Jaffor -Jamal group). A curious
reader can find a treasure of disturbing facts about this group that
can make one's good feeling go queasy.
Many of the writings originated from this group suffer from multiple
counts of human duplication, false email addressing, alias writing,
proxy posting (just the way Jaffor-Jamal used to post their stuffs
under the title "from the desk of Narayan Gupta"(check the following
to see Jaffor used to pose as *Narayn* Gupta in SCB
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Narayan+Gupta&hl=en&selm=94stf4%24igj%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&rnum=6)).
The new dimension has been, the falsification of street address with
misleading and baseless yet extra details.
for example:
Rizwan Siddique Khokon, College Park, Maryland. We have many
unnecessary details in the address yet not enough to be called
*enough* details to establish some one's identity.Why this hand
waiving after all?
When faceless characters like Rizwan Siddique Khokon has no opinion or
self esteem of his OWN,
( in order to know more about these characters READ :
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:asif_hasan73%40hotmail.com&start=30&hl=en&selm=df51654a.0201061334.157ca5e0%40posting.google.com&rnum=37)
does anyone really care:
1) WHETHER an youngman by the name Rizwan Siddique really exists?
2) IF his nickname is Khokon?(as long as he is an adult and khokon is
not his family name).
3)IF he lives in Maryland?
at the very least:
4)IF he lives in College Park, Maryland?
Answer to these are probably no.
In yesterday's (Feb 26'02) NFB readers' opinion article (archived in
Deja as below)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=46db51ba.0202260656.737948e4%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
Juvenile Khokon's article is full of phrases that old hag Jaffor Ullah
historically uses with an unquestionable preference. Following
examples will be enough to prove my point, Young (Juba) Khokon and Old
(bura) Jaffor's opinion's are placed one after the other.
It is really disturbing that while street address appears with extra
yet unusable details next to khokon's name, this Khokon character is
actually germinated from a hideout in New Orleans, Lousiana. With the
regular unconditional, hollow lip service this hotmail entity has
offered to Jaffor Ullah, this Rizwan Siddique Khokon (RSK)guy has
presented himself to be emotionally attached to Ullah to a very
suspicious proportion. That is more than a spouse or domestic partner
would be avilable to ever offer.
Let alone the uncanny resemblance to Jaffor Ullah's views, he also
shares Jaffor Ullah's stroke of the pen.
HERE GOES:
--
1) VESTIGES OF TALIBANISM: ( A term Ullah uses often vis-vis
Talibanization)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: ... he did not see any *vestiges of
Talibanism* in Bangladesh.
Bura Jaffor: there won't be any *vestiges of Talibanism* in the entire
Afghanistan.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=j4aJ7.17703%24Lo5.1859783%40e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com&output=gplain
--
2)SECULAR POLITICAL PARTY: (multiple nouns side by side as Jaffor does
here)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: Bangladesh had prospered enormously under the
leadership of Sheikh Hasina of *secularist party* of Bangladesh the
Awami League.
Bura Jaffor: The conspiratorial CG chief Justice Latifur Rahman came
with one agenda and that is to dislodge the *secular political party*
from the power.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Htuw7.26273%24WX5.819248%40e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com&output=gplain
--
3)CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH: (Jaffor's favorite)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon:Some of these folks were clever enough to
extract a *clean bill of health* from one visiting US congressman..
Bura Jaffor: .. they won't get a *clean bill of health*...
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=94phoq%24hs1%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&output=gplain
--
4)ISLAMIC GOONS: ( coined from Jaffor's CONTEMPTUOS feeling towards
Islam-
we all know an ideology can not make one goons, people choose to
become themselves.)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: The *Islamic goons* want to gobble up these
income generating properties.
Jaffor : that Hindus alone are responsible for the treatment they had
received from *Islamic goons*.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=46db51ba.0112110803.699ff101%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
--
5)BANGLA TERM FOR FISH- *MAACH*: (A mistake Jaffor often makes)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: Or else all these "shak deye *maach* dhaka"
ploys will look like an infantile idea.
Bura Jaffor: Deshi food is not your Panta_Bhaat and Shutki *Maach*.
Readers please note that Jaffor Ullah has a chronic problem with cha'
and ch-ha'- remember *chayanot* vis-a-vis chhayanot? Am I to believe
that just because Ullah and Khokon both have a knack for secularism
and a history of Islam bashing, Khokon has also contracted this
*chayanot* disease?
--
6)BANGLA TERM FOR FREEDOM FIGHTER- MUKTIJUDDHA:(another mistake Ullah
make)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: these goons in Chittagong butchered one
reputed *Muktijuddha* and principal of Nazirhat College, Mr. Muhuri .
Old Jaffor: A minister replaced *Muktijuddha* Sangshad Chairman by
force.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=46db51ba.0112060707.521bbdb7%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
War of independence is Muktijuddho or Muktijuddha' with an U,
vis-a-vis freedom fighter= Muktijoddha with an O- which young khokon
and oldie Jaffor do not realize. I just do n;t get it, it absolutely
makes no sense!!
I am not making this up dear readers, Jamal Hasan does not makes THIS
mistake. Like he wrote : Muktijuddha Chetona Bikash Kendra.
--
7) DENIZEN/ PSEUDO ISLAMIST:(Ullah's trait = name calling,
Pseudo Islamist means false or counterfeit Muslims. Bura Jaffor Ullah
is no real Muslim himself. Then why this fuzz? Jaffor does not want to
hear about Islam, yet he uses this wrong term in the wrong place for
namecalling convenience. Jubok Khokon character mimicks him on the
same without thinking about the theme.)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon: Bangladesh had become a denizen of
Islamists,pseudo-Islamists, and even born-again Muslims.
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/feb/26/g26022002.htm#A5
Bura Jaffor: The other prolific poster Mr. Shakil Sarwar is a
*denizen* of this newsgroup... This *pseudo-Islamists* all of who
attended secular schools all their life (deleted for sanity).
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9503ao%24t90%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&output=gplain
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8. OUTDOOR:(The word "OUTDOOR" is reserved by Jaffor for Ejtema Vs
Hajj)
Rizwan Siddique Khokon :4 million people participated in an Islamic
*outdoor* festival not too long ago.
Bura Jaffor: It was reported that in 1966 only about 4000 people had
attended the first *outdoor* Ejtema.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3a5c4378.16643587%40news.por.starwon.com.au&output=gplain
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9.WESTERN NEWS AGENCIES:
Rizwan Siddique Khokon:they saw that many *western news agencies* such
as BBC started giving prominence to the news of minority
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/feb/26/g26022002.htm#A5
Jaffor:The *western news agencies* did a superlative job informing the
rest of the world the unfolding events especially after the historic
speech of Sheikh Mujib.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=yX6L2.2439%240_.1116813%40news4.mia&output=gplain
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Concluding remarks:
It is absurd that two people can share exactly the same skill AND
exactly the same lack of skill in language. On the flip side Two
people can not have an identical pattern for diction or phraseology
either.
We have seen that Jaffor Ullah has a chronic problem with cha' and
ch-ha'- remember his *chayanot* vis-a-vis chhayanot? Khokon also has
that. Am I to believe that just because Ullah and Khokon both have a
knack for secularism and shares a history of Islam bashing, Khokon has
also contracted this *chayanot* disease? Or let us say adopted the
wrong and vague pseudo-Islamist term? No thanks!
So we can conclude that Rizwan Siddique Khokon (College Park,
Maryland) is an ill-imagined creation of Jaffor Ullah (Ph D, New
Orleans, Lousiana), a product of an organized hypocrisy and perjury
over the internet. While you value your time and internet experience,
this fraud is done intentionally just to deceive YOU (the
readership). How long you guys will take it?
When you (will) rise, deceivers will bow.
Asif Hasan
mwzaman
Shukhamoy Bain has earned a reputation among his mIrjafforian cohorts
for always speaking against Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. This time he
did once again: his filthy comments about Bangladesh and Kashmir are
full of blatant lies
and conjectures. To my utter surprise, MUKTA-Mona moderators as well
as the readers of Mukta-Mona have condemned Bain's unkind comments
about Bangladesh, a country in was he was born and raised. Simply
put, this is a moral stand which needs to be appreciated even by me.
Mr. Avijit Roy himself has raprimaned Bain for his uncouthe and
uncivilized expressions. Since I posted Bain's shameless comments in
SCB, I feel morally obligated to post some of the rebuttals to Bain's
unsubstantiated assertions. The critics also condemned Bain's communal
fabrications. Given the fact that I already characterized Mukta-Mona
as Khudramona Hate-group, it is incumbent upon me to point out that
Mukta-Mona's principled stand on Mr. Bain's foul language about
Bangladesh and Muslims demonstrates that Mukta-Mona moderators might
adopt a policy inclusiveness. I am also elated to know that Mukta-Mona
is not at all owned and managed by Bain and his Mir jafforian cohorts
such as A.H. Jaffor ullah. Hopefully, Mukta-Mona web-site is not being
used for spreading hatred about Bangladesh. Thank you. Sincerely,
W.Zaman Manik
Item # 1
Item #2
From: "Avijit Roy" <avijitroy1@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:40 am
Subject: Re: Kashmir
In Response to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4661
I strongly object to the post of Dr. Shukhamaya Bain in this forum
where he intentionally used a term "so-called" before sovereign
Bangladesh to defame our country which we all know, is achieved by
the nine-month struggle with the supreme sacrifice of 30 lakh
Bangladeshi martyrs. If Dr. Bain thinks that Kashmir should remain
with India, it is fine with me, but I really find no reason why he
tried to relate Bangladesh calling it ambiguous "so-called" in his
write-up on Kashmir. What has that to do with Bacchus ?
Anyway, let me share my little knowledge on Kashmir with the members
of the forum. If Dr. Bain is aware of the historical facts, he must
know that Kashmir was solely independent state even in British period.
In 1789 Kashmir was included as a province for Sikhs. In 1846 Sikhs
were defeated in a war with the British soldiers. In furtherance of
the contract, British colonists demanded 75 lakh rupee from the Sikhs.
But Sikhs did not have sufficient money at that time. In exchange for
the money, they handed over Kashmir to the British ruler. Soon after
that, British rulers found very hard to govern tribal Kashmir for
various reasons. They sold Kashmir to Mahraj Gulab Singh in 1
crorerupee. Since then Gulab Singh became the independent emperor of
Kashmir and Kashmir never went to the British colonists. After the
death of Gulab Sing, the emperors of Kashmir were Ranbir Singh
(1857-1885), Pratap Singh (1885-1925) and Hari Singh (1925).
Now Let me ask Dr. Bain some relevant questions as he thinks Kashmir
should remain with India :
1) Have you ever considered that at least 30 thousand Kashmiri people
who were systematically uprooted from their own land by your own
country-men? Why Indian government internationally try to portray
Kashimiri people's struggle always as the "Handwork of some
terrorists" ? If you think craving for freedom is nothing but the act
of terrorism, then why India considered "liberation war of Bangladesh"
in 1971 as exception ? Why the freedom fighters of East Pakistan was
considered as "freedom fighters" in the eye of The same Indian
Government ?
2) Why don't you think that Kashmiri people should have their own
rights to decide their fate ? "Peoples union for civil liberties",
"Radical Humanists Association" and "Manab Akata Obhijan committee"
send a team in Kashmir on 28th march, 1990. The team was represented
by V. M. Tarakundey, Rajendra sar, Amrita Sing, Valraj Puri, Indar
mohan, Ranjan Dibedi and others. According to their report, "Most of
the Kashmiri people do not want to be remain either with Pakistan or
with India. They want emancipation - they want to see Kashmir as
Sovereign state." Is it really a sin to accept majority peoples'
demand, Dr. Bain ?
3) Amnesty International has pointed out ongoing inhumanity in Kashmir
many times. Do you have any answer ? As for example, Mirza Afzal Beg,
the associate of Sheikh Abdullah once conducted a movement demanding
Plebiscite in Kashmir and
constructed a "Plebiscite Front". Their demand was obviously ignored
and not only this, Mirza was arrested on 9th August, 1955. Very
democratic, isn't it ?
4) Yes, Dr. Bain, we are aware that Hindus are being oppressed in
Bangladesh. But parallely, it is also true that many Bangladesh based
organizations including Drishtipat and Mukto-mona have raised their
strong voice against such atrocities. They started fundraising with
their limited strength for rehabilitation of unfortunate purnima, rita
and Sujatas in our society. May I ask Dr. Bain, how many
organizations/ people have raised their voice in India for their own
Kashmiri people ? Can you show me only one example that any citizen
has sacrificed his one day payment for saving those oppressed people ?
Don't you think those people of your own also need prior attention ?
Don't you think that Indians should provide a helping hand to those
unfortunate victims ?
5) Why don't you want to recognize the demand of Plebiscite in Kashmir
? May be because, you think like most of the leftist intellectuals,
"If Kashmiri people can vote to settle their own fate, they will
perhaps want to get united with Pakistan. Communal vote can never be
accepted". Well if is so Dr. Bain, may I humbly remind you that in
Maharastra, Indian people have elected fundamentalist BJP and
communal Shiva-shenas in the past. Have those intellectuals ever
demanded to abolish the rights for vote of the people in Maharastra ?
If not, why ?
6) "India will no longer accept to go for discussion with the third
party accept Inda-pak regarding Kashmir issue". Such statement of
Indian Government made national hero among the fellow Indians. But I
will be highly obliged if Dr. Bain confirm whether Kashmiri people are
to be included in the so-called "third-party" to discuss for their own
fate.
I hope you will understand my concern.
Lastly, I will request you read an article of mine and make your
comment which is very related with such interesting topic :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4403
Best regards,
Avijit
Item # 3
From: Muktomona Moderator <muktomona_moderator@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 9:39 am
Subject: Dr. Bain's post and an apology
Dear Members,
We have received messages from our members objecting to Dr. Bain's
recent post, especially to his calling Bangladesh as "so called". It
was his first post in Mukto-mona. We apologize to our readers for
posting his message. We would like to inform our members that we have
rejected his second post as it was also offensive to the very
existence of Bangladesh and was a great sample of his communal hatred.
We
would like to warn him to moderate his writing. We also would like to
remind our readers that no messages of communal/racial hatred or
offensive to the liberation war of Bangladesh will be posted on
Mukto-mona. Some messages have been rejected on this regard. Thanks to
the members for your understanding and cooperation.
Moderators
Mukta-Mona
Item #4
From: Mohammad Zaman <hijalphool@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: I AM DOCTOR BAIN : A PATHETIC SOUL IS MINE
Dr. Bain's posting is unfortunate and offensive. I see no need to
glorify his vitriols. Pathetically nefarious is his soul. I shall
love to see him tango with the likes of Delwar Hussain Sayedi-----his
rightful soul-mate.
Go on Mr. Bain..... I hope mukto-mona remains open to you. You do
serve a purpose. You are a loud reminder of what we are not !!
Bangladesh is an independent sovereign nation. We have our own
frailty, that we try to address. We deserve respect.
Do you realize that mukto-mona is primarily a Bangladeshi Cybergroup.
And yet they let you trivialize Bangladesh. Do you hear something loud
here......
Dear Mr. Bain, pathetic people of your very image, is the root cause
of the prevailing travails of a divided sub-continent.
Mohammad Zaman
Item #5
From: "Nalinaksha Bhattacharyya" <bhattach@m...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Kashmir
In response to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/4661
You should also consider the following points.
1. After taking over Kashmir, Govt.of India has rigged elections in
Kashmir time and agains. This means that the Kashmiri people have not
been given the democratic right to self determination.
2. There has been extensive violation of human rights in Kashmir. In
general India armed forces have acted as an occupying force. I think
it is immoral to hold an entire nation by force.
3. The present governing structure of India is feudal, colonial and
fascist. Large parts of rural India are feudal, the Indian Government
has colonially exploited Eastern India (see
http://www.geocities.com/nalinaksha ) and the Indian uniformed forces
have killed their own countrymen without due process in large numbers
(recall the experiences of Assam, Punjab, Kashmir, Naxalites of
Bengal). The sabre rattling in Kashmir is nothing but another
instance of the facist manifestation.
4. Pakistan and Bangladesh have their own faults and skeletons and
oppressions. Pakistan is a theocratic state that has oppressed its
religious minorities. Bangladesh has also oppressed religious
minorites and had committed ethnic cleansing of Chakmas. The faults
of
Bangladesh and Pakistan cannot be advanced as an argument in favour
of
India.
5. I think every nation has the right to self determination. I don't
know exactly what kind of solutions should be offered for Kashmir,
but
I do know that the patriotic chest beating by Indian Government is no
solution.
6. The hypocracy of the Indian state can be understood by comparing
the case of Junagadh and Kashmir. The Nawab of Junagadh had joined
Pakistan. At that time India said that it should be the peoples wish
and engineered an uprising in Junagadh. In Kashmir however the Indian
stance was opposite.
7.In general I think the Indian constitution should be changed. It is
based on the colonial Govt.of India Act 1935. In the new constitution
we should have a laid down process for secession should a region or a
distinct people in a contiguous geographic region feel so.
With best wishes.
Nalinaksha Bhattacharyya
mwz...@aol.com (mwzaman) wrote in message news:<46db51ba.02022...@posting.google.com>...
mwzaman
se, I take exception to A.H. Jaffor Ullah's freehand fabrications,
lies, and distortions about Bangladesh. According to A.H. Jaffor
Ullah, Ph.D., Bangladeshi Mullahs are dreaming of an Islamic Nation.
What is his proof? He has found a letter published in reader's column
in the Independent. Based on that letter, Dr. Ullah is telling us that
"This is one more proof in the growing belief that Bangladesh has
already become a Taliban nation."
Nothing could be farther from the truth than this. This is a blatant
lie to say that Bangladesh has already become Taliban country. This is
an absurd generaliztion about the state of affairs in Bangladesh. This
kind of fabrication is the result Dr. Jaffor Ullah's anti-Bangladesh
propaganda. Dr. A.H. Jaffor ullah has been trying to tarnish the image
of Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. The whole world knows it for sure that
Kazi Azizul Huque, Secretary of International Affairs, Bangladesh
Khelafat Andolon, Darul Khelafat, Lalbagh, Dhaka does not represent
the mainstream Bangladeshi people. Of the all the countries in the
South Asia, Bangladeshis are the most tolerant and non-communal
people. In comparison with both India and Pakistan, Bangladesh's track
record on Communal Harmony is the best.
Hopefully, Jaffor ullah's mirjafforian propaganda will not go
unchallenged. Dr. Jaffor Ullah has been literally hoodwinked from
Soc.culture.bangladesh for this kind of MIRJAFFORIAN PROPAGANDA
against Bangladesh. Shame on A.H. Jaffor Ullah. Let's keep on
challenging, refuting and nullifying Mirjafforian brand of falsehoods
and distortions. Sincerely, W.Zaman Manik
P.S. Following items have been reprinted from Muktachinta website.
From: Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah
Date: Sat Mar 9, 2002 11:06 pm
Subject: Mullahs in Bangladesh Dreaming of an Islamic Nation
Dear MuktoChina forum members,
Look what I found on March 10, 2002, browsing Dhaka's The Daily
Independent newspaper. The letter was written by Kazi Azizul Huque,
Secretary of International Affairs, Khelafat Andolon,
Dhaka, Bangladesh. This organization is a staunch anti-west and
anti-secular entity. They often demonstrate in the main streets
of Dhaka to denounce the West anytime America or any Western
nations go after Muslim terrorists. This organization makes no
bone about calling Osama bin Laden their friend and a hero. This
is one more proof in the growing belief that Bangladesh has already
become a Taliban nation.
Sincerely,
Dr. A.H. Jaffor Ullah
---------------
The Daily Independent
March 10, 2002
Letters to the Editor
Taliban connection in Bangladesh
Sir,
Mr. Shah A.M.S. Kibria seems not to have learnt any lesson from his
party's humiliating defeat in the last national
parliamentary election. If his party hopes to return to power
in Bangladesh, it will have no option but to form alliance with
the parties he has branded pro-Taliban.
This is the simple practical reason why Prime Minister Begum Khaleda
Zia cannot afford to antagonise her partners in the
alliance. President Bush of USA is personally a man of
anti-Jewish sentiments. But he cannot afford to antagonise
Israel and the Jewish lobby. Those who want to rule are obliged
to compromise. This is how one acquires power and remains in
power.
Mr Kibria may be unaware that many of his own party leaders and
activists celebrated September 11 destruction of American pride
i.e. Twin Towers in New York and American Military
headquarters building named Pentagon. I personally know that
Awami League MP of Dhaka-Lalbagh Constituency Haji Selim
slaughtered animals and arranged feast to celebrate September 11.
So far I know, Jamaat was always critical of Taliban. Most of the
Taliban leaders and followers are from Deobond school of
thought. Former Afghan President Borhanuddin Rabbani, who was
ousted by the Taliban, was the favourite of Jamaat. But
Jamaat opposed recent American crackdown on Afghanistan.
In 1991 Begum Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh
with the help of Jamaat. Ill-advised by some leaders of her party
she antagonised Jamaat and paid the price dearly. She learnt a
lesson and seems careful now not to be dragged by Awami strategy
to pressurise BNP to antagonise Jamaat.
Oppressed and humiliated people of Asia, Africa and Latin
America have a spontaneous sentiment against American
administration. I have seen posters and calendars with pictures
of Osama bin Laden in many shops and houses of both Muslims
and Hindus of this country. In newspapers we read that in
Korea hundreds of children were almost addicted to singing songs
in praise of Osama bin Laden. It is an international reality.
American interpretation of Afghan and Taliban issue cannot be treated
as universal interpretation. For the time being only most of
the nations have chosen not to antagoise the USA immediately.
What will happen in future is yet to be seen. Mr. Kibria by his
anti-Taliban rhetoric is only dragging his own party to a
worse future. May Allah help them with common sense.
Kazi Azizul Huque, Secretary of International Affairs, Bangladesh
Khelafat Andolon, Darul Khelafat, Lalbagh, Dhaka
jdoe
similar
incident like Godhara happended in Bangladesh? All hindus will be
wiped out in a day. There are justification of the events of
Ahmedabad. Hindus never started
any riots in Bangladesh. Only muslims do.
There are no minority rights in a muslim majority country. You muslims
( Religion of Peace - Islam ) want equality and fairness when you are
minority.
> In these paragraphs you have talked about events of Godhara lead to
> the event of Ahmedabad where Hindus reacted and implicating Muslims of
> India deserved those atrocities. Who did you Dr. Ullah considered
> victims in Ahmedabad?
>
> In India Muslims are minorities and I would always consider use of
> this particular phrase as cruel and at the same time I would consider
> the same for the Hindus in Bangladesh. In democracy tyranny of
> majority is not acceptable.