MYSTERY OBJECT Minor Planet Mailing List J002E3 Spacecraft (UNCONFIRMED)

[fxmurphy2001]

Get ready for all the crackpots to jump on this one.

[sirsquirrelnutkin]

On today's BBC web site, there is a piece on this 'new' object. The
question being asked is; is it a piece of space junk or a rocky body?
However, what intrigued me more was the following:


"If it is determined that J002E2 is natural it will become Earth's
third natural satellite. Earth's second one is called Cruithne. It was
discovered in 1986 and it takes a convoluted horseshoe path around our
planet as it is tossed about by the Earth's and the Moon's gravity".

Now that's a 'new' one on me. Anyone got any information on this
little baby?

Best regards
Sir Squirrel

[Matt Welsh]

A Google search turned up several URL's including:

http://www.astro.queensu.ca/~wiegert/3753/3753.html

And this one has some rather interesting simulations you can play with:
http://burtleburtle.net/bob/physics/cruithne.html

-Matt

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[Albert]

On the site Matt mentions below, is the following, so maybe we are now
talking about the fifth?????

(Sept 18 2001) There are now two more near-Earth asteroids known to be
currently in resonant states similar to those of Cruithne. These are 1998
UP1 and 2000 PH5. We are currently in the process of preparing these results
for publishing. Look for more information on these fascinating new asteroids
soon.

[David Knisely]

Hi there. You posted:

> "If it is determined that J002E2 is natural it will become Earth's
> third natural satellite. Earth's second one is called Cruithne. It was
> discovered in 1986 and it takes a convoluted horseshoe path around our
> planet as it is tossed about by the Earth's and the Moon's gravity".

Earth has only *one* natural satellite at the present time. The object
called "Cruithne" (3753 or 1986 TO) is an asteroid which is orbiting the
sun and not the Earth, as can be seen by plotting its position with
respect to the sun over time. Like some objects such as Toro, its orbit
has a sort of "resonance" with the Earth's orbit, which can be seen by
plotting its geocentric position, but it does *not* orbit the Earth in
the same way that the moon does. I guess the BBC has become the
"Bad-Astronomy Broadcasting Company". Clear skies to you.
--
David W. Knisely KA0...@navix.net
Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org
Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/

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[Kaxanova Zakomo]

Ancients

From: Kaxanova Zakomo (view other messages by this author)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:13:57

You'll laugh at this. Strange things happen lately.

This object is not at all what it seems. Cassini Lilith

was probably a space ship. It's orbit was too fast. Now this is my
prediction (AD HOC) at the risk of being funny.

The Ancients could afloat theis planet in last part of the second decan
of (tropical) Gemini next year.

NASA (this list) has a SOLAR SYSTEM ambassy ball. I neve really
had cabal theories here.

I'm afraid something big (perhaps too big for us) is _really_ going on.

Please bear with the next messages. I never knew why from Fender
Stratocaster I hit NASA. It seems we are channeling here. I am o.k.
and not afraid.

Someone explain to me what NASA is doing, really?

We never had such a discussion here.

Yours, Claudio

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Thieves in the Night

From: Kaxanova Zakomo (view other messages by this author)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:38:34

My prediction is they (the Ancients) come in the night
roughly second part of the second decan of Gemini 2003.

It came dawned sudden, I've no graphs or maps, used 1
second I Ching.

Why should NASA have a Solar System deputee board?

Claudio

P.S.

On this list we were touching upon the 'brown dwarf' (?)
Nibiru and Varuna (as ? predicted by Nostradamus). Now this object, the
3rd moon is not on the Harvard/NASA servers, but apparently someone
_knows_ the RA/decl (parameters). I'm being put into a line of thought, a
thread; at this moment I've no other way out but to fanatize the planet.

This morning started as usual, though;)

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