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Two more kills: excommunicated liar Alfred G. Green, Jr. bites the dust again, and again

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Marina

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Oct 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/6/99
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More lies from the Child Molestors Inc (sm) (Tm) otherwise known as
THEOCACNA. These people can't help themselves for lying.

I took Al's page down voluntarily, because he found space elsewhere.
He is using a company owned by Cypriots (not Cyprians you damned
ignorant faker) http://agrino.org/orthodox/OtherOrthodox.html

Guess what, if it gets taken down from there, I'm putting it back up
again in Greece and in Cyprus proper. And the only reason I'm putting
it back up is that your language here just shows how you have nothing
at all to do with Christ and His Church.

Oh and I'm about to find it a very PERMANENT HOME on the web that NO
amount of you lying and screaming can take DOWN -- stay tuned...

For the moment folks you can read all about these Fake Christians
at

http://agrino.org/orthodox/OtherOrthodox.html


I see you resorted to your usual un Christian language ... in fact I
think he shouldn't place a link to your site -- just show the kinds of
posts and lies you have been sending - that'll soon show you for what
fakes you are.

I really am apalled that you think you are the Church - especially with
the foul and obscene language you use. That's why I'm more than
convinced you are more than just a tax scam, but seem to be perverts as
well.

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Wayne

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Oct 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/6/99
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Why don't you take your trash talk elsewhere! No one here gives a rat's ass
what you think anyway.


<Al_Gre...@reprobate-soul.cc> wrote in message
news:37fd051f....@news.alt.net...
>
> Two more sites of copyright and service mark infringer Alfred G. Green,
Jr. of Endwell,
> New York, employee at and abuser of Lucent Technologies, NJ, are confirmed
kills: his
> site with bull dyke Marina Mary Robb in Greece and one in Cambridge, MA.
>
> Head case Green also lies: "Due to various forms of harassment in the
United States,
> this page is now located in Cyprus." -- not according the Cyprian
Nationals at MIT who
> pulled Green's plug.
>
> The OCA has taken heed and agrees with all of the complaints against
Green: the OCA
> name is no longer attributed as content author in the HMTL code of the
illegal material
> published by Green and his cronies.
>
> The OCA is also enforcing the recent anathematizing of Green by refusing
him communion
> on Sunday at the Dormition of Mary in Endicott, NY.

Al_Gre...@reprobate-soul.cc

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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Sergei592

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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Most of these groups calling themselves 'Orthodox' (listed on the site) are in
fact a subset of the 'vagante' bishops, who more often go by the name 'Old
Catholic'. As one can see, they range anywhere from 'as traditional as Mount
Athos' to gay or New Age. Lots of bishops with imaginative titles, next to no
real congregations.

It seems that several of the groups claim to be founded by Archbishop Aftimios,
a real Orthodox bishop, in 1927. Maybe one of them really is the long-lost
child of the jurisdictional chaos of those days.

A giveaway of a vagante group is when its literature emphasizes its episcopal
'lines of succession'. Orthodox don't talk like that.

+++++++

+ Presvjataja Bohorodice, spasi nas + Most holy Mother of God, save us +
Pray without ceasing; it's later than you think
- Fr Seraphim Rose

'Are you Orthodox or Catholic?' Yes!

Marina

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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That is the whole point of the site -- it is a collection of all the
"churches" who claim to be Orthodox but are not in communion with the
Church.

The particular one that is getting upset freely admits its in communion with
no-one, and that it's Metropoliatan's ordination was not valid, so he had to
do it again, with someone who had been ordained both by the Indian Church
and the Russian Church. That certainly isn't Orthodox -- the local Church
ordains the local Church, you do not go on a geographical world tour!
These guys were a bit clever and trademarked their name -- they also have
yet another site
http://canonical.faithweb.com/corporate.html

It would be quite laughable (on the scale of Baron Kevin the Anti_Pope,or
whatever he's calling himself now:)) if it wasn't for the fact that they are
in such delusion, duping themselves first, and other people next!

Marina


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Sergei592

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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Dear Marina,

>That is the whole point of the site -- it is a collection of all the
"churches" who claim to be Orthodox but are not in communion with the
Church.

A very useful and informative site. I will add, though, that not all the groups
using the word 'Orthodox' in their names are trying to pass as Eastern
Orthodox. Some, such as the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and the Anglican
Orthodox Church (listed), are conservative Protestant churches and don't
pretend to be anything else.

>The particular one that is getting upset freely admits its in communion with
no-one, and that it's Metropoliatan's ordination was not valid, so he had to
do it again, with someone who had been ordained both by the Indian Church

and the Russian Church. That certainly isn't Orthodox --*** the local Church
ordains the local Church,*** you do not go on a geographical world tour!
(emphasis added by me)

You've nicely contrasted what Orthodoxy teaches about the sacrament of orders
with the 'lines of succession' game I described. 'A world tour' looking for
those legendary 'lines' outside the Church?! LOL!

Sergei592

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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Dear Marina,

>The particular one that is getting upset freely admits its in communion with
no-one, and that it's Metropoliatan's ordination was not valid, so he had to
do it again, with someone who had been ordained both by the Indian Church
and the Russian Church.

Just wanted to add (for the benefit of lurkers/inquirers) that because Eastern
Christian thought doesn't separate the mystery (sacrament) of orders (bishops,
priests, deacons) from the context of the Church, a.ka. the whole mystical Body
of Christ, neither the Indian non-Chalcedonian Eastern Churches nor the Russian
Orthodox would ordain a wandering (what the Latin word 'vagus' or 'vagante'
means, BTW) seeker of priesthood or episcopacy without his conversion or
reception into and obedience to the Indian or Russian church in question.

And if an individual bishop from one of these Churches did ordain such a man on
his own, most if not all Orthodox would say the ordination doesn't mean
anything because its context was outside the whole Church. (Also, the bishop in
question would be subject to some form of church discipline/punishment.)

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