marina@otenet.gr (Marina Mary Robb) is a queer and apologist for homosexuals (contrary to Leviticus)
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mar...@otenet.gr (Marina Mary Robb) is a queer and apologist for homosexuals (contrary
to Leviticus):
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Subject:
Re: Anglicanism/Orthodoxy and the C Word
Date:
1998/08/24
Author:
Marina <mari...@otenet.gr>
L. Michael Roberts wrote in message <35E105...@SpamSux.laserfx.com>...
>
> Apparently my information and yours are vastly diffrent... could you be
>so kind as to advise me when this "Gay Consent Law" was passed and if
>there are any pointers to it in the mainstream press or on any web
>pages? My understanding is that the law was pased then the Orthadox
>church brough pressure to bear on the Goverment and the law was
>recinded/withdrawn.
>
The Law was passed on the 21 May 1998 and reported in the Cyprus Mail (They have a site
on the web) also http://www.kypros.org has a full archived news service about the island
where you can find the information you require, as well as Cypriot Govt. pages - where
they would be glad to reply to your enquiries The fact remains that a representative and
democratically elected Govt. should be free to make laws according to the wishes of its
people.
Marina
Subject:
Re: Apology to Homosexuals
Date:
1998/11/30
Author:
Marina <mari...@otenet.gr>
Hey! You haven't been listening, Rasmus et al. said that's it's not about sex - stoopid.
It's about rights, right?
Marina
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>You do that and keep your nose out of our sex lives. It's not your
>territory.
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Subject:
Re: Apology to Homosexuals
Date:
1998/12/02
Author:
Marina <mari...@otenet.gr>
Since this sort of fits in with discussion:
From UK's Guardian Newspaper [The views expressed are those of the paper and not
necessarily mine, but as we are talking about Christianity and Gay Rights --- well, at least I
think we are]
Tatchell invokes Gandhi in court
By Will Woodward
Tuesday December 1, 1998
Peter Tatchell, the gay rights campaigner, yesterday summoned up the spirit of Mahatma
Gandhi, the suffragettes and anti-apartheid activists to fight a prosecution which could lead to
him serving a two-month prison sentence for interrupting the Archbishop of Canterbury's Easter
sermon.
Mr Tatchell is being prosecuted under the rarely used Ecclesiastical Courts Jurisdiction Act of
1860. Section II of the act states "any person who shall be guilty of riotous, violent or indecent
behaviour in any cathedral church... shall be liable to penalty". Mr Tatchell could also be fined
£200.
Canterbury magistrates court was told that on April 12, Mr Tatchell climbed into Dr George
Carey's pulpit as the archbishop delivered his Easter Sunday sermon in Canterbury Cathedral.
Mr Tatchell, joined by six other members of the lesbian and gay protest group Outrage!
condemned the archbishop's opposition to an equal age of consent and his refusal to support
gay fostering.
Mr Tatchell was pulled away from the pulpit before completing his statement.
In his defence, the gay rights campaigner insisted he had not intended to offend people with his
"very fair and reasoned" protest.
"I think a lot of people would have been very offended by realising that Dr Carey supported
discrimination against gay people... I think people's human rights are more important than the
maintenance of church service and ritual," he said.
Since Dr Carey became Archbishop of Canterbury in 1990, "he had always refused very
reasonable requests to meet with lesbian and gay organisations to discuss our concerns," Mr
Tatchell told the court.
During his pulpit protest he had not abused Dr Carey or insulted the Church, and had not
touched the archbishop.
The constitution of Outrage!, Mr Tatchell said, committed members to non-violent direct action.
The movement modelled its methods on "Mahatma Gandhi in the struggle for Indian
independence, the methods used by the suffragettes, [and] the black civil rights movement in
America. Those methods are our inspiration and model."
Prosecuting, Robert Montague said the protest was "inappropriate both as to time and place; it
was unseemly; it was indecorous. Mr Tatchell is not being prosecuted on account of any views
that he may hold... It is with regard to the protection of the sanctity of the place and the time of
the particular occasion."
A Canterbury Cathedral verger, Mark Punton, told the court he believed he was tricked by a
protester who doubled over with an inhaler in his hands and appeared to be suffering an asthma
attack. "As I tried to get him outside he moved away from me, and four or five people ran up the
pulpit steps. I was confused by being deceived by this man. My prime concern was for the
archbishop's safety. I didn't react very quickly; I just stood there in a state of shock."
Mark Guthrie, defending, read out a letter from the Most Rev Richard Holloway, Bishop of
Edinburgh, who compared the defendant to the suffragettes. "I believe that Peter Tatchell
belongs in the group of awkward and prophetic individuals who make society think about
uncomfortable matters."
The bishop has joined 700 other people including Harold Pinter, Sir Ludovic Kennedy and Paul
Foot in a petition by the National Secular Society calling for the 1860 act to be repealed.
The defence told the court it would today call the Labour MP Tony Benn and the Liberal
Democrat MP Evan Harris as character witnesses.
GS
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Subject:
mar...@otenet.gr (Marina Mary Robb) is a queer and
apologist for homosexuals (contrary to Leviticus)
Date:
Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:57:20 GMT
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Results:
All stated that 207.14.113.10 was not a valid web address at
worldnet.att.net, the posting person's webservice. but certainly, the
posting person is from the US and probably constantine Z.
Marina
points to the same (the last address given.
I do not believe Constantin Z. has cause for quarrel with me. Nor is he
likely to mention Leviticus. I certainly have not got involved in any
threads with him. Yet, the indication I have been given, and I am waiting
for confirmation is that the fake belongs to the pseudo-Orthdox with no
sense of humour.
It was so amateur that it is obvious.
Not bad given that their Coporate President only uses Web TV himself!!
Marina
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GS <sp...@erols.com> wrote in message news:37EFC0CF...@erols.com...
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