Notice to all Orthodox synods and jurisdicitions ...
David MacGuire
"Holy Eastern Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church in North America"
is a Heretic, and hereby sentance him to be Burned at the Stake for his
wicked perversions of the Holy Faith, under the Holy Doctrines of Empta
Dolore Docet Experientia; Supressio Veri, Suggestio Falsi and De Fumo
Flammam.
The reward for his apprehension, either alive or extra crispy, is one
Holy Annulment and three Sacred Indulgences.
+Melodion, Cardinal Archbishop, Patriarch and ProtoJanitor of the Holy
See of Malarky+
theocacna, @, altavista.net wrote:
>
> The Holy Eastern Orthodox Catholic and
> Apostolic Church in North America, Inc.(sm)
> HC 74, Box 419-2
> Mountain View, AR 72560
> 870-269-2912
>
> September 25, 1999
>
> Notice to all Orthodox synods and jurisdictions, be it known:
>
> Our Church is a canonically established Church, and the Orthodox community
> turned its back on the Church for the transgressions of a couple of the Church leaders.
> Today our Church is under attack by the second church established in and for
> North America by the Moscow Patriarchate. The OCA allows a deacon (who originally
> denied his Holy Orders) to claim we were not a canonically established Church, to demean
> us, to attack the Metropolitan by proclaiming him both unchristian and unorthodox and to
> refer to the Metropolitan as "metropolitan" and publicly as "victor". This same deacon
> also stated that he uses the Church property (copyright and service mark) publicly and
> without permission which is thus theft of property of this Church by a deacon of and on
> behalf of his church.
> The Orthodox Church in America Metropolitan and Synod were notified of our
> complaint and request for action against this deacon. By their silence we must assume
> that he is a deacon of their church and that they will not punish his action which
> appears now to be in their name as listed content author associated with the deacon who
> compiled and setup the sites using our property illegally.
> The OCA has not acknowledged our complaint. We have faxed a letter to the
> Ecumenical Patriarch and now to others since allowing these attacks contrary to the
> canons places all involved above the canons of the Orthodox Church, and as the first
> Orthodox Church established canonically for the English speaking Orthodox community in
> North America makes us the only canonical Church in our rightful jurisdiction while the
> others by their silence have left the Church and canons.
>
> Metropolitan Victor
> Primate and Corporate President
Christo J. Balouris
theocacna @ altavista.net wrote in message
| The OCA has not acknowledged our complaint. We have faxed a letter to the
|Ecumenical Patriarch and now to others since allowing these attacks
contrary to the
|canons places all involved above the canons of the Orthodox Church, and as
the first
|Orthodox Church established canonically for the English speaking Orthodox
community in
|North America makes us the only canonical Church in our rightful
jurisdiction while the
|others by their silence have left the Church and canons.
|
|Metropolitan Victor
|Primate and Corporate President
You da man, Victor! The important question though is whether you are in
communion with either His Holiness, Kevinator I, Orthodox Pope of Rome, or
His Beatitude, Constantin, the Orthodox Anti-Pope at Avignon (with a big
yacht).
David MacGuire
pathetic and extremely cheesy attempt to hijack the legitimacy of another
Church? A Church which no longer exists?
The sordid attempts of various fringe cults to add legitimacy to their
sickeningly perverse rites by adding the words "Catholic" or "Orthodox" is a
well known ploy. It will not work for you, as you have already the
reputation of a cheat and a liar. Your church is not canonical and has never
made any contributions, bribes or payoffs to the Ecumenical Patriarchate or
any other Patriarchy.
Your cowardly attacks and persecutions upon Mr. Green and his family
will probably be the foolish acts that finish off your repulsive sect once
and for all. In the meantime, I invite all to join me in prayer for your
sincere repentance and conversion to the TRUE Orthodox Faith. Well, one of
'em, anyway...
David MacGuire
<theocacna @ altavista.net> wrote in message
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theocacna
Marina
In fact, Mr. Greene is welcome to set up a mirror site here in Greece, where
pseudo-Orthodox wannabes as yourself are seen for what they are. There are
actually laws which mean you cannot pretend to be Orthodox -- especially
when you DO not concelebrate with the Church of Constantinople. Here, the
OCA is recognised as a legitimate,canonical Church, by the Ecumenical
Patriarchate too, (there is a minor dispute about its autocephalous status)
but they do concelebrate. Your little bunch of people dressed up as the
Orthodox are seen for what they are. You have a problem with that? So sue me
in a Greek court. You do not have a snowball's chance in hell of winning
here. In fact, this arrived to me in Greece, how about I sue you through a
Greek court, what you are doing (impersonating an Orthodox priest) is highly
illegal here. Oh yes -- that's what we'll do. We can get you banned from the
country at the very least.
--
Marina
<theocacna @ altavista.net> wrote in message
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Jesh
Empire was Orthodox. Two things tipped me off to the lunacy of the
original post: 1) Arkansas (can anything good come out of Arkansas?),
and 2) Alta-Vista as an ISP. Both dead giveaways. Your post also
explains why there is no ROCOR in Greece, although there have been
Russian language churches in Greece since about 1917, and there is now a
burgeoning Russian population all over, especially evident in Athens
around the church on Filellinon St. - as well as all the new fur shops.
I bet they even use ermine in Greece now.
jesh
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Before you buy.
Marina
What I do take offense to is this group of pseudo-Orthodox
wannabees harassing an Orthodox man and his family merely
because he states the truth that these people are
uncanonical. Not only this but their libel on the news net
and false threats for legal action.
That these people are fakers is confirmed by the fact that
they faked my mail headers and sent a post in my name.
The faked headers all point straight at
theo...@altavista.com
How sad!!
My threat of legal action is not in the least bbit false
and I am quite prepared to go to the American courts if
necessary over this. I have all the evidence.
Marina
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Highmountains
whether or not their own jurisdiction was "valid" the world would be a better
place instead of passing judegement back and forth as to who is "valid" and who
is not. I thought only God was the Judge of one's soul and intentions...
I find it strange that the Bishops do not come out and make statements like the
ones I find here... when laymen presume to judge entire jurisdictions!
And the "minor dispute" you mention is hardly something "minor" because there
has been great controversy about it. It has obviously been decided that it is
not something to break communion about, but nevertheless, it is a matter of
great contoversy still, even today.
Why has nobody brought up the issue of the Rudder stating that there may only
be one Orthodox Bishop in a Jurisdiction (Diocese) and yet, that rule is broken
openly by every jurisdiction? Does not breaking that rule bring up serious
issues?
There has been ongoing debate about the ROCOR and the other jurisdictions...
some even claiming that the ROCOR is not "valid" and "non-canonical." Does this
mean that the sacraments are empty and non-valid in the ROCOR? I think not.
I remember hearing Fr. Hopko reply to a question about the validity of
sacraments within the Roman Catholic Church. He simply replied, "Does it really
matter? Why does it make a difference if another religion or jurisdiction's
sacraments are valid or not to us? That is best left to God. We should worry
about ourselves. We have enough to deal with." That surprised me at first, and
yet, the more I thought about it, the more it made absolute sense then.
It still does....
(No, I am not a member of the ROCOR...but I am a member of a jurisdiction
within SCOBA... BIG DEAL)
Marina
But he faked my mail headers and he is going to court for it. No joke!!
Marina
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IC I XC Marina Mary Robb mari...@otenet.gr
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NI I KA "If thou bear thy cross cheerfully it will bear thee."
Highmountains <highmo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Would not the more charitable thing to do be to simply ignore such posts
> instead of ridicule him or attack him personally? He can claim whatever he
> wishes, but the replies here are simply absurd and childish... reducing
the NG
> to one of bantering back and forth.
>
> Before anything is said, I am not a part of his membership.
>
> He may be "out there" but I don't think the Christian thing to do is
attack him
> personally and call him names, etc.
Constantin Stefanou
It has come to our attention (through our housekeeper Mercedes Borgia and
her lovely sister Lucretia), that certain Corporate Presidents have decided
to establish themselves as a separate autocephalous Corporation. This has
greatly confused our flock and has caused great consternation to our very
holy selves because our Archbishop Pius the Nazi has now requested the
additional title of Corporate VP for Sales. It has also come to our
attention that the corporate president has some considerable trouble with a
deacon (don't we all) who occasionally refers to him in public as "hey you".
As far as the establishment of an autocephalous Corporation is concerned,
let it be known that we condemn such actions, which are obviously the work
of that arch-heretic (Pope Kevinator) who dares to challenge our authority
even though he does not have a big yacht. As far as the actions of the rogue
deacon are concerned we declare that the correct term for referring to a
Primate and Corporate President is "Corporate Primate Baby" and certainly
not "Nikita darling".
In order to assure our flock that such "here today gone tomorrow" corporate
presidents do not, in the future, make further attempts to usurp powers that
are not rightfully theirs we have established the Synodical Higher Institute
of Typolatry (but we never call it by its initials) which will be the final
arbitrator on matters concerning official terms of reference.
Let our flock be assured that our Yacht is the biggest and that the
arch-heretic (spit thrice) will be defeated.
The Anti-Pope at Avignon (and keeper of the Synodical Higher Institute of
Typolatry archives)
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Highmountains
>But he faked my mail headers and he is going to court for it. No joke!!
>
>Marina
>
>
Oh okay... I am sorry if I over-reacted then. And for someone to "fake headers"
speaks way more than anything else this person could have posted. I did not
believe that was possible to do... I learn something new everyday then...
Matanna
televised College Bowl type games that they show on Saturday afternoons between
sporting events?
Just wondering.
Barnabas
Please let me say "A +" for one of the funniest posts I have had the
pleasure of reading in some time.
You hit the nail right on the head. The ridiculous should always be
lampooned!
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