crushed testicles
Emilio Lizardo
Crushed testicles? We don't need no physical evidence. It was said
therefore it is true, just like all of the gassing idiocy of WW II.
No evidence is required and the lack of evidence is not of merit unless the
same criteria is applied to gassing.
---
Failing to have facts on their side, kikes indulge in character
assassination as their means of dealing with what they do not
like. If that fails they post obscene references to male genitailia.
-
Nizkor - financed by the El Manual Congregation
Anthony Sabatini
Emilio Lizardo <Planet@1.0> wrote in article
<334997c9...@news.gte.net>...
> Crushed testicles? We don't need no physical evidence. It was
said
> therefore it is true, just like all of the gassing idiocy of WW II.
>
> No evidence is required and the lack of evidence is not of merit
unless the
> same criteria is applied to gassing.
You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is enforced
against revisionism here.
[.sig snipped]
Pgroff
On 10 Apr 97 12:28:08 GMT, "Anthony Sabatini"
<anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:
Sorry, but in fact any double standard has always been applied to
those who post fact, after fact, after fact, when it comes to the
Holocaust and its perpatrators. Documentation has continully been used
to prove time and again that the Nazi regime did infact murder
millions of Jews. Yet has there been and documentary evidence for the
revisionist side, no, they selectively quote, misquote, and fabricate
at every turn. No wonder they just are believed, they lie.
jbell...@sprynet.com
to be untrustworthy. It is YOU who need to provide the evidence, which
you have thus far failed to do.
Anthony Sabatini
Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article <33538F...@rio.com>...
[headers snipped]
> Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article
> <3350F4...@rio.com>...
> > Chuck Ferree wrote:
> >
> > Anthony, you do realize that you are engaging in a discussion (I guess
> > that's what it is) with Matt Giwer, one of the bonifide idiots on the
> > Internet, don't you? Otherwise, none of the following makes any sense
> > to me.
>
> Chuck, I wasn't trying to discuss anything with anyone. I merely
> stated that a
> double-standard seems to exist when it comes to revisionism.
>
> Chuck> Anthony, maybe a double standard does exist when it comes to
> revisionism. From my point of view, every revisionist I know anything
> about is first of all an anti-Semitic person. They hate Jews. The
> worst offenders, don't even make much sense when they attempt to
> discuss the Holocaust. Few if any ever offer proof, to make their
> points. They state opinions, not proof, and opinions don't count. They
> bluff way too much, and no embarrassment when they get caught. When a
> denier gets nailed, he'll bluff and change the subject every time.
>
>
> It is undeniable.
> The affirmers, or believers if you will, quote reams of text from
> books they
> consider acceptable to their cause, and then claim that it is proof.
> However,
> when revisionists do exactly the same thing -- e.g.: Irving's book,
> Hoffmann's,
> Leutcher, et al. -- the 'believers' pounce on them and say that it
> isn't
> enough. They claim that 'revisionist' books are wrong, nothing more
> than Nazi
> mutterings, factually incorrect, etc.
>
> Chuck> which is true, and the "revisionists books" are more opinion
> that factual data.
Proof, please.
> These guys have been proven to be wrong in their
> data, numbers, so called proof. Most of what they contend is simply
> not true, and has been proven to not be true.
But look at _how_ this stuff "has been proven to not be true". The affirmers
really _haven't_ proven anything, they merely attack the author of
book/report/whatever in question and make assertions. I have yet to see _real
proof_ of any rebuttal to these revisionist items.
> They attack the character of the
> 'revisionist', launch massive smear campaigns against him or her, etc.
>
> Chuck> Come on, Anthony, there is just as much name calling from the
> denier side than from this side. Some of the deniers, all they do is
> insult people. They don't even bring up Holocaust stuff to argue
> about.
Sorry, what I meant was that the affirmers attack the authors of the
revisionist book/report/whatever; I wasn't referring to posters here. And yes,
I agree 100% that both sides _here_ are guilty of name-calling.
> This is
> the double-standard I'm talking about. For right or wrong, it's there;
> anyone
> who claims it isn't is either blind or a blatant liar.
>
Chuck:
> Well, Anthony, I just got new eye glasses so I'm not blind, and if you
> believe I lie, give me some examples.
Oh, come on! Look how Leutcher is attacked for not having a degree in homicidal
gas chambers (!!!), that Irving is not a _real_ historian, John Ball is not
qualified to analyze the 'air photo evidence' because he has the 'wrong kind'
of degree, etc., etc. Be reasonable here, Chuck.
[.sig snipped]
CCed to Chuck Ferree.
Mark Van Alstine
In article <01bc4926$6c840eb0$1c7213cc@odin>, "Anthony Sabatini"
<anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:
> Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article <3350F4...@rio.com>...
> > Chuck Ferree wrote:
> >
> > Anthony, you do realize that you are engaging in a discussion (I guess
> > that's what it is) with Matt Giwer, one of the bonifide idiots on the
> > Internet, don't you? Otherwise, none of the following makes any sense
> > to me.
>
> Chuck, I wasn't trying to discuss anything with anyone.
Indeed. Mr. "Sabatini" rarely discusses anything with anyone. He simply rants.
> I merely stated that a double-standard seems to exist when it comes to
revisionism.
Indeed! Holocaust deniers _are_ generallarly hypocrites who constantly use
double-standards in their "arguments."
> It is undeniable.
This is true. It cannot be denied that Holocaust deniers are generally
hypocrites.
> The affirmers, or believers if you will, quote reams of text from books they
> consider acceptable to their cause, and then claim that it is proof.
> However,when revisionists do exactly the same thing -- e.g.: Irving's book,
> Hoffmann's, Leutcher, et al. -- the 'believers' pounce on them and say that
> it isn't enough. They claim that 'revisionist' books are wrong, nothing more
> than Nazi mutterings, factually incorrect, etc.
Obviously, Mr. "Sabatini" hasn't the slightest clue about the theory and
pratactice of historiography. Why am I not suprised?
> They attack the character of the 'revisionist'...
Let's not beat around the bush here. The term is Holocaust denier. And
Holocaust deniers are attacked _because_ of their mendacious lies,
Holocaust denial propaganda, and anti-Semitism, for example.
Pretty dispicable characters. Rather like Mr. "Sabatini."
> ...launch massive smear campaigns against him or her, etc.
It's not a "smear campaign" when the allegations are true.
> This is the double-standard I'm talking about.
In other words, Mr. "Sabatini" is suffering from acute sour grapes.
> For right or wrong, it's there;
Ideed it is. The dishonesty of Holocaust deniers is undeniable. It is also
easily rectifed. All the deniers need to do is stop promulgating their
mendacious lies and Holocuast denial propganda and stop being hateful
little anti-Semites and such. (Yeah, right. When pig's fly!)
> ...anyone who claims it isn't is either blind or a blatant liar.
Well, we already know Mr. "Sabatini" is a blatant liar. Is he blind as
well, or is his vision simply impaired because his head is always up his
butt?
For those interested in proof of Mr. "Sabitini's" Holocaust denial,
intellectual dishonesty, anti-Semitism, and outright lies, please peruse
DejaNews and visit the Nizkor Project at:
http://www.dejanews.com/
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/s/sabatini.anthony
Mark
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"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes
not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties--but
right through every human heart--and all human hearts."
-- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"
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Roger Armstrong
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:29:10 -0500, "Jubilation T. Cornpone" <ju...@netcom.net>
wrote:
>Anthony Sabatini wrote:
>>
>> Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article <3350F4...@rio.com>...
>> > Chuck Ferree wrote:
>> >
>> > Anthony, you do realize that you are engaging in a discussion (I guess
>> > that's what it is) with Matt Giwer, one of the bonifide idiots on the
>> > Internet, don't you? Otherwise, none of the following makes any sense
>> > to me.
>>
>> Chuck, I wasn't trying to discuss anything with anyone. I merely stated that a
>> double-standard seems to exist when it comes to revisionism. It is undeniable.
>> The affirmers, or believers if you will, quote reams of text from books they
>> consider acceptable to their cause, and then claim that it is proof. However,
>> when revisionists do exactly the same thing -- e.g.: Irving's book, Hoffmann's,
>> Leutcher, et al. -- the 'believers' pounce on them and say that it isn't
>> enough. They claim that 'revisionist' books are wrong, nothing more than Nazi
>> mutterings, factually incorrect, etc. They attack the character of the
>> 'revisionist', launch massive smear campaigns against him or her, etc. This is
>> the double-standard I'm talking about. For right or wrong, it's there; anyone
>> who claims it isn't is either blind or a blatant liar.
>>
>> [rest snipped]
>>
>> CCed to Chuck Ferree
>
>Anthony all the traits you have described depict those with limited
>mental capacities and intellectual processes. They can't refute so they
>resort to underhanded tactics such as mass E-Mail bombings.
Remember that the Chuckle Fairy has bragged about murdering innocent people
AFTER the war was over. He has a lot to live with and to take to his grave. He
can not be a happy person. All that saves him from total despair over his
actions is his ability to create a hatred for Germans. Without that, he would
have to face responsibility or his own actions.
>Your friend,
>Jubilation
Nice post, T.
===
Been there, done that, got the "I was gassed six times T-Shirt."
Allan Matthews
>Jubilation
Oh, look. The tavish bot-entity, who's crap always gets refuted, is talking
about limited mental capacity. Well, "he" is an expert at that - being a 6th
grade drop out and all.
allan
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Un Mun replied, "Dry shit on a stick."
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Doc Tavish
Anthony Sabatini wrote:
>
> Daniel Keren <dke...@world.std.com> wrote in article
> <E8nDL...@world.std.com>...
> > "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
> >
> > # You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is
> > # enforced against revisionism here.
> >
> > You're obviously confused. It is "revisionists" who use
> > a double standard.
>
> Now let's see the 'official' Holo-Clone (tm) reasoning for this from none other
> than our very own resident holocaust mythologist, little Danny Keren. <g>
>
> > You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom of
> > speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me, because
> > my opinion on a certain historical event is different from his.
>
> As usual, Keren is confused. He insists that, for some unfathomable reason,
> _he_ *knows* the _reasons_ behind someone's post. Danny, please provide proof
> that the _reason_ Mr. Giwer allegedly "threatened" you was due to "differing
> opinions". While you're at it, why not post some proof that I want to put
> Nizkorites in jail for the same reason. Failure to do so will prove beyond a
> shadow of a doubt that you are either:
>
> A) Simply insane.
> B) A blatant and willful liar.
> C) The average, run-of-the-mill idiot.
> D) Possessed of some hitherto unproven psychic ability.
> E) A mid-ranking shaman of the holocaust faith (tm) that will stop at nothing
> to promote pro-Zionist propaganda.
> F) One or more of the above.
>
> Personally, my money's on F.
>
> > And you have Bellinger, who believes that millions of
> > German civilians were murdered after the war, although
> > there is ZERO physical and documentary evidence for
> > this; and yet he rejects the Holocaust, for which there
> > is a great deal of such evidence.
>
> Why don't you post some evidence that Mr. Bellinger "rejects the holocaust"
> outright?
>
> > And you have the "great sabatini", aka "little dictator",
> > who also screeches about freedom of speech, yet wants to
> > throw the members of the Nizkor project in jail [1].
>
> LOL!
>
> > What a wacky, crazy bunch, these "revisionists" are.
>
> But not nearly as "wacky" as those silly Holo-Clone (tm) propagandists, priests
> & priestesses, professional 'survivors', and other holocaust-related
> ne'er-do-wells. The proof is at Deja News and the Nitz-kore Holo-Clone
> Assimilation Centre (tm)!
>
> [.sig and little Danny's favorite quote (his silly footnote -- see above)
> snipped]
>
> Silly Keren, "tricks are for kids!" (r) ;-)
Tavish replies:
I do believe that Bruno would derive great pleasure in applying his
craft to Mr. Keren. Yes Bruno is from the old Bavarian School of
inquisitive acquisition. Bruno knows how to stimulate every nerve but
yet not do any sort of damage. Yes Bruno would spend hours in a cold
dark damp dungeon with him. Bruno is a firm believer in the old adage:
"No pain, no gain." :-) Mr. Keren will probably over react to Bruno BUT
Bruno went back home to Bavaria a while back because certain ones in
this ng hurt his feelings! He is a big dumb brute in the common sort of
way but he's such a likable lug too! I may be able to persuade him to
come back but I don't know. If I can get Bruno back then may be Gunther
and Gerhardt may return too! They all claim that life is too hard for
them in America with all of this hatred by Nizkooks running around. They
say it reminds them of when the Communists ruled and how the Commies
kept files on everyone. Reminds me of what commie East Germany used to
be!
Chuck Ferree
Chuck Ferree wrote:
Subject:
Re: crushed testicles
Date:
16 Apr 1997 00:22:02 -0700
From:
RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong)
Organization:
Primenet Services for the Internet
Newsgroups:
alt.revisionism
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:29:10 -0500, "Jubilation T. Cornpone"
<ju...@netcom.net>
wrote:
Chuck: Anthony, I warned you about this turkey. He is a killer,
mentally incapacitated, and his "Mother Board" is gone!
Remember that the Chuckle Fairy
Chuck> That's a "term of endearment" I wish Giwer would cut it out.
Talk to him, Anthony. Don't let him snuggle up to me. O.K.?
has bragged about murdering innocent people
AFTER the war was over.
Chuck> If I did all that, how come they gave me several oak leaf
clusters for my Good Conduct Medal?
He has a lot to live with and to take to his grave.
Chuck> Don't we all. But, Anthony, don't go to your grave with a
tattered relationship with the likes of Giwer. It's like a veneral
disease, Anthony, do it and you get it, stay away, and you don't catch
embarrassing, difficult to explain to your mother diseases.
He
can not be a happy person. All that saves him from total despair over
his
actions is his ability to create a hatred for Germans.
Chuck> Too bad you don't know me personally. You have never seen a
happier guy. No remorse, no despair, no guilt, respect from my family
and friends. Prettiest yard in the neighborhood. Count my blessings
every day. Life is wonderful, people are wonderful...(with a few
exceptions)
Without that, he would
have to face responsibility or his own actions.
Yeah, some day, when I stand at the Heavenly Gates, St. Peter will
look at my page and say something like: "Well, My Son, You Done Good,
Now Come On It And Enjoy!"
>Your friend,
>Jubilation
LUEK
Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote:
Some body at the War Department screwed up?
(BTW: Just how did you get more than one GCM with just two years of
service?)
Speaking of which, has your research turned up anything about the
"stiff job" the U.S. government gave the inmates?
> He has a lot to live with and to take to his grave.
Not until he gets some reseach done first!
(snipped)
>Chuck> Too bad you don't know me personally. You have never seen a
>happier guy. No remorse, no despair, no guilt, respect from my family
>and friends.
Ignorance is bliss they say!
>Prettiest yard in the neighborhood.
Obviously Chuckles Furball possesses and uses a large supply of
"fertilizer."
(snipped)
>Yeah, some day, when I stand at the Heavenly Gates, St. Peter will
>look at my page and say something like: "Well, My Son, You Done Good,
>Now Come On It And Enjoy!"
^^^^^^^^^^^
So you plan to take your Holoerotica collection of naked dead bodies
with you?
Anthony Sabatini
Anthony Sabatini
Mark Van Alstine <mvan...@rbi.com> wrote in article
<mvanalst-160...@rbi140.rbi.com>...
> In article <01bc4926$6c840eb0$1c7213cc@odin>, "Anthony Sabatini"
>
> > Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article <3350F4...@rio.com>...
> > > Chuck Ferree wrote:
> > >
> > > Anthony, you do realize that you are engaging in a discussion (I guess
> > > that's what it is) with Matt Giwer, one of the bonifide idiots on the
> > > Internet, don't you? Otherwise, none of the following makes any sense
> > > to me.
> >
> > Chuck, I wasn't trying to discuss anything with anyone.
>
rants.
And pulls your strings! ;-)
> > I merely stated that a double-standard seems to exist when it comes to
> revisionism.
>
> Indeed! Holocaust deniers _are_ generallarly hypocrites who constantly use
> double-standards in their "arguments."
Van Alstine uses the Big Lie technique.
> > It is undeniable.
>
> This is true. It cannot be denied that Holocaust deniers are generally
> hypocrites.
>
> > The affirmers, or believers if you will, quote reams of text from books
they
> > consider acceptable to their cause, and then claim that it is proof.
> > However,when revisionists do exactly the same thing -- e.g.: Irving's book,
> > Hoffmann's, Leutcher, et al. -- the 'believers' pounce on them and say that
> > it isn't enough. They claim that 'revisionist' books are wrong, nothing
more
> > than Nazi mutterings, factually incorrect, etc.
>
> Obviously, Mr. "Sabatini" hasn't the slightest clue about the theory and
> pratactice of historiography. Why am I not suprised?
Because I didn't _tell_ you to be.
> > They attack the character of the 'revisionist'...
>
> Let's not beat around the bush here. The term is Holocaust denier.
Mark forgot to add the trademark symbol to that. The above should read, "The
term is Holocaust denier (tm)".
Notice: Holocaust denier, denier, and all derivatives thereof are trademarks or
registered marks of the Holy Holocaust 'Milk-It-For-All-It's-Worth' Faith (r).
Unauthorized use by any means is a violation of copyright law and will be
pursued to the maximum extent possible under law and international treaties.
> And
> Holocaust deniers are attacked _because_ of their mendacious lies,
> Holocaust denial propaganda, and anti-Semitism, for example.
I guess you mean as opposed to the mendacious lies, Holocaust promotional
propaganda and pro-Zionism, for example, of Holo-Clones (tm). Is that it?
> Pretty dispicable characters. Rather like Mr. "Sabatini."
There, there, Mark; don't get testy. Remember, you have my permission to gnash
your teeth, rend your clothing, howl or bray, beat yourself on the head, or
anything else you like as long as you don't disturb anyone else.
> > ...launch massive smear campaigns against him or her, etc.
>
> It's not a "smear campaign" when the allegations are true.
So then you agree that by calling the lot of you (you know who you are!)
Holo-Clones (tm), it is _not_ a smear?
> > This is the double-standard I'm talking about.
>
> In other words, Mr. "Sabatini" is suffering from acute sour grapes.
Either that or the pain of having to read through yet another Van Alstine post
rife with...fluff.
> > For right or wrong, it's there;
>
> Ideed it is. The dishonesty of Holocaust deniers is undeniable. It is also
> easily rectifed. All the deniers need to do is stop promulgating their
> mendacious lies and Holocuast denial propganda and stop being hateful
> little anti-Semites and such. (Yeah, right. When pig's fly!)
Now remember, boys and girls, Mark is only practicing for the day he too can be
a proud member of Orwell's Ministry of Truth, where up is down and the truth is
a lie. <shudder> Reminds one of the Holocaust promoters, does it not?
> > ...anyone who claims it isn't is either blind or a blatant liar.
>
> Well, we already know Mr. "Sabatini" is a blatant liar.
<yawn> Proof, please.
> Is he blind as
> well, or is his vision simply impaired because his head is always up his
> butt?
More evidence of Mark's anal fixation. And then they wonder why I call them
clones... ;-)
[silly .sig and boring slander deleted]
Mark, I await your comments regarding my very own, 'special' Mark Van Alstine
sig (reproduced below for your convenience).
Mark Van Alstine (allegedly one Stuart Pidley) is, as far as I can tell, a
virulent spewer of mistruths, a slanderous serpent and has a most peculiar
interest for building demolition procedures, something which most honest
citizens do not share. His ranting, mewling and temper tantrums, along with
his foul verbiage and assorted excrement, can be found regularly in
alt.revisionism, one of his favorite haunts.
For more information on this puppet-like dullard, please see:
http://search.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=van%20alstine%20mark
http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/v/van-alstine.mark
Chuck Ferree
Chuck Ferree wrote for "LUEK"
UP YOURS, LUEK! WITH A BOATHOOK! :-)
Love and kisses,
Chuckles
Daniel Keren
"Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
# As usual, Keren is confused. He insists that, for some
# unfathomable reason, _he_ *knows* the _reasons_ behind
# someone's post. Danny, please provide proof that the
# _reason_ Mr. Giwer allegedly "threatened" you was due
# to "differing opinions".
He posted that he would kill me, in case America is
in a war, because I believe the attack on the Liberty
was an accident. Now, it is true, it's a hypothetical
situation. But this is only a technicality, in my opinion;
the main point is that, because my opinion on a certain
historical event is different from his, he wants to
kill me.
# While you're at it, why not post some proof that I want
# to put Nizkorites in jail for the same reason.
You want to throw the members of the Nizkor project in
jail. You posted that yourself. Are you so thick that
you cannot remember what you posted? Well, here it is:
In Message-ID: <01bbffd9$30dc9850$4c7213cc@server>,
Anthony Sabatini wrote:
# Well, I don't know about the Communists, but if I
# have my way, the only thing these Nizkorites will
# be interrogating is the prison guard as to what time
# lunch is served.
<end quote from Sabatini's article>
# Why don't you post some evidence that Mr. Bellinger
# "rejects the holocaust" outright?
Why don't you learn to read? Then, you can look in his
articles, and see for yourself.
-Danny Keren.
Daniel Keren
"jbell...@sprynet.com" quotes my entire post, and adds
one line:
# Support for your trousers might be in better order.
Shrug. I guess that this is what Faurisson meant, when
he said that "revisionism is the great intellectual
adventure of the 20th century"?
-Danny Keren.
Buckaroo Banzai McTavish
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:53:02 GMT, dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
>"Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
>
># As usual, Keren is confused. He insists that, for some
># unfathomable reason, _he_ *knows* the _reasons_ behind
># someone's post. Danny, please provide proof that the
># _reason_ Mr. Giwer allegedly "threatened" you was due
># to "differing opinions".
>
>He posted that he would kill me, in case America is
>in a war,
Repost the original so that people can see that your orgasmic fulfillment
as a jew in being "hated" is completely false.
because I believe the attack on the Liberty
>was an accident. Now, it is true, it's a hypothetical
>situation. But this is only a technicality, in my opinion;
>the main point is that, because my opinion on a certain
>historical event is different from his, he wants to
>kill me.
And you get little shivers up and down your spine just thinking about that
sex fantasy of yours.
># While you're at it, why not post some proof that I want
># to put Nizkorites in jail for the same reason.
>
>You want to throw the members of the Nizkor project in
>jail. You posted that yourself. Are you so thick that
>you cannot remember what you posted? Well, here it is:
>
> In Message-ID: <01bbffd9$30dc9850$4c7213cc@server>,
> Anthony Sabatini wrote:
>
> # Well, I don't know about the Communists, but if I
> # have my way, the only thing these Nizkorites will
> # be interrogating is the prison guard as to what time
> # lunch is served.
>
><end quote from Sabatini's article>
>
># Why don't you post some evidence that Mr. Bellinger
># "rejects the holocaust" outright?
>
>Why don't you learn to read? Then, you can look in his
>articles, and see for yourself.
Would you be so diligent as to repost the other one in its entirety? Of
course not. It woud demonstrate you are lying and burst your fantasy of someone
making you a real jew by wanting to kill you.
No professional jew is fulfilled in life until he can convince himself he
is being persecuted for being a jew.
Roger Armstrong
On 16 Apr 1997 22:26:06 GMT, jbell...@sprynet.com wrote:
>> dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
>> "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
>>
>> # You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is
>> # enforced against revisionism here.
>>
>> You're obviously confused. It is "revisionists" who use
>> a double standard.
>>
>> You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom of
>> speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me, because
>> my opinion on a certain historical event is different from his.
It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
-----
If we are good enough to be hated, we are good enough to win.
Brian Harmon
Roger Armstrong wrote:
[..]
> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
> concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
>
> -----
> If we are good enough to be hated, we are good enough to win.
Yes yes Matty, you sure showed him on that one.
You do realize you're lying, yes?
--
Brian Harmon <bra...@itsa.ucsf.edu>
====================================
"Right on, jew traitor." -- Matt Giwer,
displaying his commitment to rational debate.
<52kj3e$6...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>
SOG
Anthony the dolt is nought but a hater of Jews, nicht wahr you slime?
Buckaroo Banzai McTavish
On 17 Apr 1997 01:09:51 GMT, "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:
>Daniel Keren <dke...@world.std.com> wrote in article
><E8nDL...@world.std.com>...
>> "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
>>
>> # You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is
>> # enforced against revisionism here.
>>
>> You're obviously confused. It is "revisionists" who use
>> a double standard.
>
>Now let's see the 'official' Holo-Clone (tm) reasoning for this from none other
>than our very own resident holocaust mythologist, little Danny Keren. <g>
>
>> You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom of
>> speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me, because
>> my opinion on a certain historical event is different from his.
>
>As usual, Keren is confused. He insists that, for some unfathomable reason,
>_he_ *knows* the _reasons_ behind someone's post.
Being jewish he knows the only reason anyone would disagree with his
superior racial intellect is that they wish to persecute him. It is in the
torah or some such. It makes him feel "now I am a Jew!" because he can claim
someone wants to kill him.
Do him a favor. Tell him you would like to gas him. That will make his
day.
>Danny, please provide proof
>that the _reason_ Mr. Giwer allegedly "threatened" you was due to "differing
>opinions". While you're at it, why not post some proof that I want to put
>Nizkorites in jail for the same reason. Failure to do so will prove beyond a
>shadow of a doubt that you are either:
>
>A) Simply insane.
>B) A blatant and willful liar.
>C) The average, run-of-the-mill idiot.
>D) Possessed of some hitherto unproven psychic ability.
>E) A mid-ranking shaman of the holocaust faith (tm) that will stop at nothing
>to promote pro-Zionist propaganda.
>F) One or more of the above.
>
>Personally, my money's on F.
G) to jewish
Always bet on G.
===
With semites like YFE, antisemitism is elevated to a moral imperative.
Buckaroo Banzai McTavish
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:43:31 GMT, dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
>RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong) writes:
># dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
>
>## You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom
>## of speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me,
>## because my opinion on a certain historical event is
>## different from his.
>
># It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed
># that message has concluded Keren is a holohugging liar,
># which is also redundant.
>
>You're lying as usual. Some people noted - correctly -
>that the threat was conditioned: Giwer said he would kill
>me during a war.
POST THE COMPLETE MESSAGE again and demonstrate your case. But
remember that doing so will endangered your treasured perscution fantasy.
>His exact words were "I would turn and kill you first".
Not out of context, the entire message.
>He didn't say he'd kill me during peaceful times.
>
>True, the threat is conditioned. But, as I said in an
>earlier post today, this is just a technicality.
>
>Of course, Giwer regrets having posted this, but for
>tactical reasons only. He knows that this quote is
>here to stay.
Then entire post and lose the feel of "today I am a Jew!" because someone
hates me.
Your fantasy life is very jewish.
jbell...@sprynet.com
Daniel Keren
Poor old Matt, using the poor old alias "Ho...@Kong.Dunedin
(Buckaroo Banzai McTavish)", writes:
# Being jewish he knows the only reason anyone would disagree
# with his superior racial intellect is that they wish to
# persecute him. It is in the torah or some such. It makes
# him feel "now I am a Jew!" because he can claim someone
# wants to kill him.
This amazing explanation aside, the fact is that Matt
Giwer wrote to me that, if the US is in a war, he
"would turn and kill you first". These are his words.
This is a fact. This is what he posted.
Giwer has to grow up and take responsibility for what
he writes. He's behaving like a five-year-old.
-Danny Keren.
Gord McFee
In message <33567c48...@news.primenet.com> - RArms...@fred.not
(Roger Armstrong) writes:
:>
:>On 16 Apr 1997 22:26:06 GMT, jbell...@sprynet.com wrote:
:>
:>>> dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
:>>>
:>>> # You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is
:>>> # enforced against revisionism here.
:>>>
:>>> You're obviously confused. It is "revisionists" who use
:>>> a double standard.
:>>> You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom of
:>>> speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me, because
:>>> my opinion on a certain historical event is different from his.
:>
:> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
:>concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
Really? Nice troll Matt, but tell it to the judge.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
db...@maths.tcd.ie
In article <33567c48...@news.primenet.com>, Matt Giwer, posting as
RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong) wrote:
> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
> concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
Who's *everyone* - got a nest of mice in your shirt pocket?
Matty-poo calling someone else a liar is a case of the pot
accusing the kettle of being carbon-encrusted.
Derek
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Anthony Sabatini
SOG <pcl...@usa.net> wrote in article <33579E...@usa.net>...
> Anthony the dolt is nought but a hater of Jews, nicht wahr you slime?
What is "nicht wahr"? I assume it's German, but I'm not proficient in it.
Sorry.
BTW, I don't hate Jews. I despise blood-sucking parasites, that's all. And no,
I don't hate you, SOGgy; I merely laugh at you.
Silly SOGgy, "tricks are for kids!" (tm)
Doc Tavish
Buckaroo Banzai McTavish wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:43:31 GMT, dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
>
> >RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong) writes:
> ># dke...@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
> >
> >## You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom
> >## of speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me,
> >## because my opinion on a certain historical event is
> >## different from his.
Doc Tavish replies:
Keith Morris pulled the same stuff on me back in late 96- typical sneak
trick. Must we also archive ourselves to be able to answer these Kremlin
Gremlins? Me thinks not!
> ># It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed
> ># that message has concluded Keren is a holohugging liar,
> ># which is also redundant.
> >
> >You're lying as usual. Some people noted - correctly -
> >that the threat was conditioned: Giwer said he would kill
> >me during a war.
Doc Tavish inquires under what condition would your thug and poltroon
Chucky Wucky Ferret try to "off" Matty and me? Examine your assassin's
own vile words of "hate speech":
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Chuck Ferree writes:
This is pretty nasty stuff, doc. I think you and Giwer better get some
help, before we get to you. It's really perverse and sicko. It would be
such fun to meet you in that dark alley. Just for a few seconds. Fear
and
terror, like you can't even imagine.
Chuck
LET ANY DOUBTER,
IN ALL THE GENERATIONS TO COME,
CONTEMPLATE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE
TO LIVE IN A WORLD DOMINATED BY HITLER,
THE JAPANESE WARLORDS,
OR ANY OTHER CRUEL DICTATOR OR DESPOT.
Ira C. Eaker Commanding General,
United States Air Force
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Doc Tavish inquires:
Who is the "we" that will get Matt and me? What is the action Chucky
Wucky wishes to take? Nizkook's side is the side with terrorists, E-Mail
bombers, psychos, nose pickers, nit pickers and general malcontents!
Answer now o pernicious cur the charges that I hath wrought 'gainst thy
treachery! :-)
Doc Tavish
Tavish replies:
Sorry Anthony about SOGgy returning but the boys and I couldn't catch
him to bar-be-que him for our annual April 20th celebration and get
together. We had "tons" of rattlesanke meat to eat though!
Gord McFee
In message <01bc4da4$f2d45bf0$307213cc@odin> - "Anthony Sabatini"
<anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
:>
:>SOG <pcl...@usa.net> wrote in article <33579E...@usa.net>...
:>> Anthony the dolt is nought but a hater of Jews, nicht wahr you slime?
:>
:>What is "nicht wahr"? I assume it's German, but I'm not proficient in it.
:>Sorry.
Nicht wahr literally means "not true", but normally translates "is it
not so"?
Adrienne LaCroix McTavish
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:01:16 -0600, db...@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
>In article <33567c48...@news.primenet.com>, Matt Giwer, posting as
> RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong) wrote:
>> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
>> concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
>
> Who's *everyone* - got a nest of mice in your shirt pocket?
>
> Matty-poo calling someone else a liar is a case of the pot
>accusing the kettle of being carbon-encrusted.
When little Danny is willing to post his "I am a Jew" persecution message
again in its entirety it will be clear even you the studiously abstruse such as
yourself.
Until then it is clear that you will be supporting his fantasy life.
Mark Van Alstine
In article <335daed2...@news.primenet.com>, For...@Knight.Dunedin
(Adrienne LaCroix McTavish) wrote:
[snip]
> When little Danny is willing to post his "I am a Jew" persecution message
> again in its entirety it will be clear even you the studiously abstruse
such > as yourself.
>
> Until then it is clear that you will be supporting his fantasy life.
Unlike "La Croissant" here, who can't even support himself!
> ===
> Been there, done that, got the "I was gassed six times" T-Shirt.
Just six? I daresay the Giwer-swine has been gassed far more times than
that! Why, considering his obviously prodigious imbibing, one can only
surmise that he is perpetually gassed!
The gonadotoxic Giwer-swine is, as far as I can determine, a craven
anti-Semitic and racist troller whose only interest is in slandering Jews
and causing fights. He has profusely and consistantly lied about what has
been said in exchanges (while accusing others of lying), refused to
document claims, pretended not to see posts which contain documented
refutation of his claims (even when they have been emailed to him),
engaged in actual libel, blatant and offensive anti-Semitism, Nazi
apologia, crude sexism, and has generally conducted himself with such a
complete lack of intellectual and factual integrity that there seems to be
no point in taking the time to read and respond to him. For detailed and
documented evidence of this, please peruse DejaNews and visit the Nizkor
Project at:
http://www.dejanews.com/
http://www.nizkor.org/encouragements/
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/email
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/forgery-lives-on
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/antisemite
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996/simpering-bitch
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996/fatbroad
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996/c-word
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996/plagarized-article.0796
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/lies
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/lies/lie-openly-admitted
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/lies/thousand-dollar-wager
Mark
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Dene Bebbington
Buckaroo Banzai McTavish <Ho...@Kong.Dunedin> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 06:27:02 -0700, Brian Harmon <bra...@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
>>Roger Armstrong wrote:
>>[..]
>>
>>> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message
>has
>>> concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> If we are good enough to be hated, we are good enough to win.
>>
>>Yes yes Matty, you sure showed him on that one.
>>
>>You do realize you're lying, yes?
>
> People can review it for themselves and decide for themselves, right?
>
> That is what an open forum is all about, right?
>
> So why make accusations/personal attacks when you can just as easily if
>not
>more easily direct the reader to the "lie" and post the "truth" as you see it?
Mr Giwer, I'm curious as to why you try and turn the debate around by
accusing others of personal attacks, after all it was you who has gone
beyond mere insult and made a thinly veiled threat of violence:
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Danny Li <dl...@gate.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:19:59 +0100, Dene Bebbington <de...@bebbo.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Mr Giwer, I will be perfectly happy to answer such a question as long as
>>you stop masquerading as other posters by forging email return
>>addresses. I'm not prepared to argue points like this with someone
>>playing pathetic games in an attempt at spreading propoganda and causing
>>confusion.
>
> Yes, we know you are full of shit.
>
> You did not object when Ken McVay pretended to post from Nizkor when in
>fact he was
>posted from a defense contractor, 1B Systems.
>
>>Your shoddy antics as evidenced on these newsgroups in itself partially
>>answers your question, since your obfuscatory techniques may lead some
>>unaware lurkers to the mistaken conclusion that the people you are
>>pretending to be actually said what they didn't. Insidious is a word
>>that describes your games.
>
>>And another point, don't dictate to me how I should reply, my answer if
>>I elaborate any further will be on my terms and not yours.
>
> And, yes, we know you are not capable of answering the mail. And this
>we are the
>revisionists united against holohuggery.
>
> You attacked. You made it a struggle.
>
> We are going to bring you down in more than just this little conference.
>
> Whether or not you know you are dead meat now, it is only a matter of
>time before you
>learn it in fact.
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Dene Bebbington
"I mean, who would have noticed | "It is impossible to enjoy idling
another madman around here?!" | thoroughly unless one has plenty
- Blackadder | of work to do." - Jerome K Jerome
Jeneva Storme
Anthony Sabatini wrote:
> What is "nicht wahr"? I assume it's German, but I'm not proficient in it.
> Sorry.
>
"nicht wahr?" means literally "not true?", and is used when one
expects the listener to agree with one. It's like the German
equivalent of "n'est-ce pas?" "Is is not?"
Jeneva L. Storme
Anthony Sabatini
Dene Bebbington <de...@bebbo.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<jq2nvfAg...@bebbo.demon.co.uk>...
Oh, for the love of God! I've been accused of having 'thin skin' in this
conference, but you people certainly take it to the extreme! Where is this
"thinly veiled threat of violence" that you are crying foul about? Perhaps Mr.
Bebbington is unaware of the vernacular regarding the term "dead meat"? It is
often used as mere bravado, not as a "threat of violence" to be taken
seriously. Geez! <shaking head in amazement!>
[.sig snipped]
Matt Giwer
On 28 Apr 97 23:16:32 GMT, "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com>
wrote:
>Dene Bebbington <de...@bebbo.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
Keep in mind that this is the best these nerfbrains have. It gets
stupider from here on. And besides just who is Danny Li?
And who else am I supposed to be? I was Napoleon once but that was in
a previous life. Perhaps I will be the great Ignatz Ivanovitch in my next
life?
It looks like a lot of people have taken up the habit of being me as a
hobby. That should drive the holohuggers wild.
Is he is heaven or is he in hell
That damned elusive bane of Israel.
nerf, def. 1) generic, a harmless imitation of the real thing.
=====
If there is anything holohuggey it is an 800C fuzzy feeling
grea...@mindspring.com
Anything written by the nameless coward Tavish
Klan/giwer/Quayle/anonymous/Phineas or a hundred fake names are useless.
These slugs type in and change the names of other people and commit
fraud on a grand scale because they are not accountable.
If you are stupid enough to read "nobody@nothing" you deserve it!
Herman
Dene Bebbington
>>> Danny Li <dl...@gate.net> wrote:
[snips]
Keep in mind that Giwer wrote it.
> It gets
>stupider from here on.
You certainly do.
> And besides just who is Danny Li?
One of your numerous aliases Mr Giwer, were there so many that you can't
remember?
> And who else am I supposed to be?
You tell us, oh master of the ridiculous aliases.
> It looks like a lot of people have taken up the habit of being me as a
>hobby.
Don't like your past postings being dragged up do you. No matter. We
will be here to remind you when necessary, aliases notwithstanding.
>If there is anything holohuggey it is an 800C fuzzy feeling
If there is anything incoherent, it is Mr Giwer's sottish prattle.
Anthony Sabatini
> >
> >Oh, for the love of God! I've been accused of having 'thin skin' in this
> >conference, but you people certainly take it to the extreme!
>
> defend a deranged idiot like Giwer when he makes threats.
I "defend" him only because I don't feel Mr. Giwer was making any kind of real
threat, which is certainly what _you_ said in your message. (I have also
defended Mike Stein when someone called him a "professional liar" and even
Keren when someone accused him of spamming this group!) In my opinion, it was
nothing more than anger seeping through the electronic page. Do you realize
that most posts in this newsgroup are like that? Or do you claim it is only
those Wascally Deniers (tm) that act like that?
> As I said in a
> different thread, your true colours are shining through Mr Sabatini.
Again, I will point out your apparent thin skin, Mr. Bebbington. Remember, you
reap what you sow.
> > Where is this
> >"thinly veiled threat of violence" that you are crying foul about?
>
> Errr, can't you read, do not the phrases "bring you down" and "dead
> meat" mean anything to you.
Yes, it is a form of bravado. Have you never heard college teams cry after
their opponents, "You guys are dead meat!" before an important game?
> Who said I took Giwer's threat of violence very seriously?
Well, that certainly was what you implied. However, if you say that you did not
mean it thus, I will accept your word. (Unlike what certain persons have done
with me...)
> In my view
> Giwer's use of the phrase "dead meat" was not bravado but him getting
> very uppity as he does sometimes when people point out things that he
> doesn't want them too. I didn't really expect him and his unnamed
> cohorts to carry out the threat, but nevertheless such a threat was made
> by him.
Oh, come off it, Mr. Bebbington! I'm quite certain you're a fairly bright
fellow, so why do you persist in these silly little things? We are posting to a
forum dealing with an *extremely* emotionally-charged and controversial topic
-- don't you realize and accept that tempers flare easily here?
> > Perhaps Mr.
> >Bebbington is unaware of the vernacular regarding the term "dead meat"? It
is
> >often used as mere bravado, not as a "threat of violence" to be taken
> >seriously.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, "dead meat" does in fact imply violence as it
> is used by people normally to refer to an act of violence.
Not necessarily, or at least on this side of 'the Pond'. Sorry.
> The point in me posting Giwer's threats, which appears to have passed
> your brain by, is that he should get his own house in order before
> berating others for supposed personal attacks. Maybe Giwer should
> consider the old adage about those in glass houses not throwing stones.
In other words, you were up to nothing but character assassination. Fine, as
long as we got that straight.
> > Geez! <shaking head in amazement!>
>
> Me too, because I'm bewildered at how you could have missed the point of
> my post.
See above! ;-)
[.sig snipped]
Dene Bebbington
I wouldn't disagree that some posters do let their hate and anger seep
through into their posts, and this does include some people on the other
side of the fence to the deniers. However, regarding Mr Giwer, he has a
long history on Usenet of behaviour that goes far beyond bravado and
anger, his recent posts are quite toned down (doesn't want to get kicked
off another ISP?!) in comparison to past offerings.
In all my time on Usenet (including other newsgroups to this) I've never
quite come across anyone as uncouth, callous, stupid, deceitful,
boorish, and despicable as Mr Giwer. This comment about him is made
bearing in mind that I've seen the posts of several obnoxious kooks on
Usenet over the years.
>> As I said in a
>> different thread, your true colours are shining through Mr Sabatini.
>
>Again, I will point out your apparent thin skin, Mr. Bebbington. Remember, you
>reap what you sow.
At the same time I believe that your words show what sort of a person
you are.
>> Who said I took Giwer's threat of violence very seriously?
>
>Well, that certainly was what you implied. However, if you say that you did not
>mean it thus, I will accept your word. (Unlike what certain persons have done
>with me...)
Well, I guess on Usenet that meanings aren't always as clear as one
would like. Whereas I didn't take Mr Giwer's threat too seriously, I
believe that it says a lot about him that he'd make such a threat, and
when dealing with people who have such levels of hate and extremist
views one cannot dismiss such threats entirely.
>> In my view
>> Giwer's use of the phrase "dead meat" was not bravado but him getting
>> very uppity as he does sometimes when people point out things that he
>> doesn't want them too. I didn't really expect him and his unnamed
>> cohorts to carry out the threat, but nevertheless such a threat was made
>> by him.
>
>Oh, come off it, Mr. Bebbington! I'm quite certain you're a fairly bright
>fellow,
You're too kind!! ;-)
> so why do you persist in these silly little things? We are posting to a
>forum dealing with an *extremely* emotionally-charged and controversial topic
>-- don't you realize and accept that tempers flare easily here?
Maybe they can, although I don't remember having ever made any similar
threats either to Mr Giwer or anyone else.
>> The point in me posting Giwer's threats, which appears to have passed
>> your brain by, is that he should get his own house in order before
>> berating others for supposed personal attacks. Maybe Giwer should
>> consider the old adage about those in glass houses not throwing stones.
>
>In other words, you were up to nothing but character assassination. Fine, as
>long as we got that straight.
How can I have been engaged in character assassination by posting
Giwer's own words. But, if your implying that his words spoke bad of his
character, then I'd agree with you.
Matt Giwer
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:29:10 -0500, "Jubilation T. Cornpone"
<ju...@netcom.net> wrote:
>Anthony Sabatini wrote:
>>
>> Chuck Ferree <chu...@rio.com> wrote in article <3350F4...@rio.com>...
>> > Chuck Ferree wrote:
>> >
>> > Anthony, you do realize that you are engaging in a discussion (I guess
>> > that's what it is) with Matt Giwer, one of the bonifide idiots on the
>> > Internet, don't you? Otherwise, none of the following makes any sense
>> > to me.
>>
>> Chuck, I wasn't trying to discuss anything with anyone. I merely stated that a
>> double-standard seems to exist when it comes to revisionism. It is undeniable.
>> The affirmers, or believers if you will, quote reams of text from books they
>> consider acceptable to their cause, and then claim that it is proof. However,
>> when revisionists do exactly the same thing -- e.g.: Irving's book, Hoffmann's,
>> Leutcher, et al. -- the 'believers' pounce on them and say that it isn't
>> enough. They claim that 'revisionist' books are wrong, nothing more than Nazi
>> mutterings, factually incorrect, etc. They attack the character of the
>> 'revisionist', launch massive smear campaigns against him or her, etc. This is
>> the double-standard I'm talking about. For right or wrong, it's there; anyone
>> who claims it isn't is either blind or a blatant liar.
>>
>> [rest snipped]
>>
>> CCed to Chuck Ferree
>
>Anthony all the traits you have described depict those with limited
>mental capacities and intellectual processes. They can't refute so they
>resort to underhanded tactics such as mass E-Mail bombings.
Remember that the Chuckle Fairy has bragged about murdering
innocent people AFTER the war was over. He has a lot to live with and
to take to his grave. He can not be a happy person. All that saves him
from total despair over his actions is his ability to create a hatred
for Germans. Without that, he would have to face responsibility or his
own actions.
>Your friend,
>Jubilation
Nice post, T.
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Queen Elizbeth II endorses obscenity unsuitable for children.
She always has. She always will.
She endorse Ken McVay with an OBC. She is a slut by definition,
Matt Giwer
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:01:16 -0600, db...@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
>In article <33567c48...@news.primenet.com>, Matt Giwer, posting as
> RArms...@fred.not (Roger Armstrong) wrote:
>> It is interesting to note that EVERYONE who has reviewed that message has
>> concluded Keren is a holohugging liar, which is also redundant.
>
> Who's *everyone* - got a nest of mice in your shirt pocket?
>
> Matty-poo calling someone else a liar is a case of the pot
>accusing the kettle of being carbon-encrusted.
When little Danny is willing to post his "I am a Jew" persecution
message again in its entirety it will be clear even you the studiously
abstruse such as yourself.
Until then it is clear that you will be supporting his fantasy
life.
Matt Giwer
On 17 Apr 1997 01:09:51 GMT, "Anthony Sabatini"
<anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:
>Daniel Keren <dke...@world.std.com> wrote in article
><E8nDL...@world.std.com>...
>> "Anthony Sabatini" <anth...@infobahnos.com> writes:
>>
>> # You are obviously forgetting the double-standard that is
>> # enforced against revisionism here.
>>
>> You're obviously confused. It is "revisionists" who use
>> a double standard.
>
>Now let's see the 'official' Holo-Clone (tm) reasoning for this from none other
>than our very own resident holocaust mythologist, little Danny Keren. <g>
>
>> You have Matt Giwer, who keeps screeching about freedom of
>> speech, yet posts an explicit threat to murder me, because
>> my opinion on a certain historical event is different from his.
>
>As usual, Keren is confused. He insists that, for some unfathomable reason,
>_he_ *knows* the _reasons_ behind someone's post.
Being jewish he knows the only reason anyone would disagree with
his superior racial intellect is that they wish to persecute him. It
is in the torah or some such. It makes him feel "now I am a Jew!"
because he can claim someone wants to kill him.
Do him a favor. Tell him you would like to gas him. That will
make his day.
>Danny, please provide proof
>that the _reason_ Mr. Giwer allegedly "threatened" you was due to "differing
>opinions". While you're at it, why not post some proof that I want to put
>Nizkorites in jail for the same reason. Failure to do so will prove beyond a
>shadow of a doubt that you are either:
>
>A) Simply insane.
>B) A blatant and willful liar.
>C) The average, run-of-the-mill idiot.
>D) Possessed of some hitherto unproven psychic ability.
>E) A mid-ranking shaman of the holocaust faith (tm) that will stop at nothing
>to promote pro-Zionist propaganda.
>F) One or more of the above.
>
>Personally, my money's on F.
G) to jewish
Always bet on G.
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