Why do they call it Holocaust

[Walt Hingerty]

 There was a movie in the 70s with Michael Moriarty and Meryl Streep(I think)and they called it the Holocaust. Before that i had never heARD this term used in connection with the travails of the Jews in WWII Europe.

A Holocaust is a fiery conflagration. Wouldnt the bombing of Dresden or Hiroshima more aptly be a Holocaust and its victims be Holocaust victims?

Do Holocaust victims have to be Jewish? 

[Allison Tait]

Walt Hingerty (hing...@erols.com) wrote:

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: A Holocaust is a fiery conflagration.

It is a sacrifice completely consumed by fire. From the Greek holo
(whole) and kaustos (burned)

Wouldnt the bombing of Dresden or
: Hiroshima more aptly be a Holocaust and its victims be Holocaust
: victims?

No. They were tragic events, but were not"a" Holocaust, and definitely
not the Holocaust.

: Do Holocaust victims have to be Jewish?

No. Of the 12 million murdered by the Nazis about 6 million were
Jewish. Other victims were Romanies (Gypsies), Polish nationalists,
homosexuals and the disabled. : ------------AEE6DE269771

[Anthony Sabatini]

Walt Hingerty <hing...@erols.com> wrote in article
<32F4B4...@erols.com>...

> There was a movie in the 70s with Michael Moriarty and Meryl Streep(I
> think)and they called it the Holocaust. Before that i had never heARD
> this term used in connection with the travails of the Jews in WWII
> Europe.

> A Holocaust is a fiery conflagration. Wouldnt the bombing of Dresden or

> Hiroshima more aptly be a Holocaust and its victims be Holocaust
> victims?

> Do Holocaust victims have to be Jewish?

They've dubbed this event 'The Holocaust' as a marketing ploy. It does have
a catchy name, doesn't it? Capital letters and everything...

[Mark Van Alstine]

In article <01bc1300$d21b6630$367213cc@server>, "Anthony Sabatini"
<anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:

holocaust n. [ME < OFr _holocauste_ < LL(Ec) _holocuastum_, a whole burnt
offering < Gr _holokauston (neut. of holokaustos), burnt whole (see HOLO-)
+ _kaustos_, burnt: see CAUSTIC] 1 an offering the whole of which is
burned; burnt offering 2 great or total destruction of life, esp. by fire
[nuclear _holocaust_] -* the Holocaust [also the h-] the systematic
destruction of over six million European Jews by the Nazis before and
during World War II

antisemitic adj. 1 having or showing prejudice against Jews 2
discriminating against or persecuting Jews 3 of or caused by such
prejudice or hostility.

Source: _Websters New World Dictionary_, Third College Edition.

For those interested in proof of Mr. "Sabitini's" Holocaust denial,
intellectual dishonesty, anti-Semitism, and outright lies, please visit:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/s/sabatini.anthony

Mark

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[Anthony Sabatini]

Mark Van Alstine <mvan...@rbi.com> bleated in article
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idiot n. 1 : a person affected with idiocy; esp. a feebleminded person
having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
custodial care. 2: a silly or foolish person

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interest for building demolition procedures, something which most honest
citizens do not share. His ranting, mewling and temper tantrums, along with
his foul verbiage and assorted excrement, can be found regularly in
alt.revisionism, one of his favorite haunts.

For more information on this incorrigible poisonous snake, please see:

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[ChuckF2323]

Chuck Ferree wrote:

Subject: Re: Why do they call it Holocaust
Date: 7 Feb 97 02:14:12 GMT
Message-ID: <01bc149c$9011f180$247213cc@server>

Mark Van Alstine <mvan...@rbi.com> bleated in article
<mvanalst-060...@rbi146.rbi.com>...
> In article <01bc1300$d21b6630$367213cc@server>, "Anthony Sabatini"
> <anth...@infobahnos.com> wrote:

Chuck> First of all, why start your post with an insult aimed at someone?
Mark didn't "bleat," he simply wrote. See there's that chip on your
shoulder, and it's in your head. The chip is gone. You just don't know it
yet.

>
> > Walt Hingerty <hing...@erols.com> wrote in article
> > <32F4B4...@erols.com>...
> > > There was a movie in the 70s with Michael Moriarty and Meryl
Streep(I
> > > think)and they called it the Holocaust. Before that i had never
heARD
> > > this term used in connection with the travails of the Jews in WWII
> > > Europe.

Chuck> Well, this could be because Walt was too young. Or could be that he
wasn't paying attention. Regardless, the plan adopted by the Nazis during
WW-II, or before the war started, to eliminate, eradicate, or in whatever
way works best, to rid Europe forever of Jews, ended up being labeled the
Holocaust. Why does anybody have a problem with this?

> > > A Holocaust is a fiery conflagration.

Chuck> that's one thing the dictionary says. It also says: "the systematic
mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World
War II."

Wouldnt the bombing of Dresden
or
> > > Hiroshima more aptly be a Holocaust and its victims be Holocaust
> > > victims?

Chuck> I don't think so because: it also goes on to say: "any mass
slaughter or reckless destruction of life."

Chuck> In my opinion, although some disagree with me on this, the fire
bombing of Dresden was a military decision, and had some military value. I
believe the same thing applies to Hiroshima.

> > > Do Holocaust victims have to be Jewish?

Chuck> no, not according to my dictionary. About one half of the victims
of the Nazi perpetrated Holocaust, as we call it, were not Jewish. A
little reading would help a person understand this.

> >
> > They've dubbed this event 'The Holocaust' as a marketing ploy.

Chuck> Who is the "they've?"

Chuck> marketing ploy is bullshit and pretty stuped.

It does
have
> > a catchy name, doesn't it? Capital letters and everything...

So?

>
> holocaust n. [ME < OFr _holocauste_ < LL(Ec) _holocuastum_, a whole
burnt
> offering < Gr _holokauston (neut. of holokaustos), burnt whole (see
HOLO-)
> + _kaustos_, burnt: see CAUSTIC] 1 an offering the whole of which is
> burned; burnt offering 2 great or total destruction of life, esp. by
fire
> [nuclear _holocaust_] -* the Holocaust [also the h-] the systematic
> destruction of over six million European Jews by the Nazis before and
> during World War II
>
> antisemitic adj. 1 having or showing prejudice against Jews 2
> discriminating against or persecuting Jews 3 of or caused by such
> prejudice or hostility.
>
> Source: _Websters New World Dictionary_, Third College Edition.

idiot n. 1 : a person affected with idiocy; esp. a feebleminded person
having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
custodial care. 2: a silly or foolish person

LET ANY DOUBTER, IN ALL THE GENERATIONS TO COME, CONTEMPLATE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO LIVE IN A WORLD DOMINATED BY HITLER, THE JAPANESE WARLORDS, OR ANY OTHER CRUEL DICTATOR OR DESPOT. Ira C. Eaker Commanding General, United States Air Force

[David S. Maddison]

Walt Hingerty <hing...@erols.com> wrote:

[..]

: There was a movie in the 70s with Michael Moriarty and Meryl Streep(I

: think)and they called it the Holocaust. Before that i had never heARD
: this term used in connection with the travails of the Jews in WWII
: Europe.

Well the term Holocaust as applied to the systematic murder of
Jews by Nazis in WWII certainly was in use before the 1970's. There are
numerous examples in the literature, here are just a few....

Some examples:

1942 _News Chronical_ Dec 5 "Holocaust...Nothing else in Hitler's record
is comparable to his treatment of the Jews...The word has gone forth
that...the Jewish peoples are to be exterminated...The conscience of
humanit stands aghast."

1943 _House of Lords, Hansard_ Mar 23 "The Nazis go on killing...If this
rule could be relaxed, some hundreds and possibly a few thousands, might
be enabled to escape from this holocaust."

1945 _Legal Claims Against Germany", p. vi "Millions of survivng victims
of the Nazi holocaust, Jews and non-Jews, will stand before us in years to
come."

1949 _Proc. Amer. Acad. for Jewish Research_ XVIII, p.193 (in article
problems of Jewish Hurban research).

1957 _Yad Washem Bull._ April (heading) "Research on the Holocaust Period"

1958 _Yad Washem Bull._ July "The catastrophe which overtook us..The
Inquisition...is not the same as the Holocaust"

1962 _Diamond_, B. Glanville, xviii p.296, "the holocaust...was the
inevitable end, the logical conclusion of the pogroms, the Mosley marches,
the hatred.

1965 _The holocaust kingdom_, A.Donat (title)

1967 _Warrant for Genocide_, N.Cohn, ix p.208, "By the autumn of 1944 the
holocaust was nearing its conclusion."

1968 _Manchester Guardian Weekly_ 25 April "There is now within modern
history a compartment of "holocaust studies"- dealing with the wholesale
destruction by the Nazis of European Jewry".

1972 _Odessa File_, F. Forsyth p .306 "The mausoleum of Yad Vashem,...the
shrine to six million of his fellow Jews who died in the holocaust."

: A Holocaust is a fiery conflagration. Wouldnt the bombing of Dresden or

: Hiroshima more aptly be a Holocaust and its victims be Holocaust
: victims?

There are several meanings of the term holocaust and the history of the
word can be traced back to the 12th century and derives from the French
holocauste and the Latin holocaustum and means "whole" and "burnt". So it
is understood to mean a sacrifice consumed by fire or complete consumption
by fire, especially of a large number of persons, and a great slaughter or
massacre. In terms of WWII, it specifically refers to the mass murder of
the Jews by the Nazis. It can also be used to describe the genocide of
other groups, but used in the context of WWII it is specific to Nazi
murder of Jews.

: Do Holocaust victims have to be Jewish?

No. The Nazis murdered around 12 million human beings. Six million were
Jews, six million were non-Jews of various kinds such as Romani people and
homosexuals, and physically and mentally disabled, and "non-Aryans". (The
Nazi leadership seem to have been excluded from these criteria, otherwise
they would also have been murdered for being physically or mentally
disabled, homosexual or "non-Aryan".)

[Reference, Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition]

David Maddison

[Doctor Benway]

On {17 Feb 1997 04:53:42 GMT}, {madd...@connexus.apana.org.au (David S.
Maddison)} wrote in {alt.revisionism}:
[AG the goose]

>
>
>Walt Hingerty <hing...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>[..]
>
>: There was a movie in the 70s with Michael Moriarty and Meryl Streep(I
>: think)and they called it the Holocaust. Before that i had never heARD
>: this term used in connection with the travails of the Jews in WWII
>: Europe.
>
>
>
>Well the term Holocaust as applied to the systematic murder of
>Jews by Nazis in WWII certainly was in use before the 1970's. There are
>numerous examples in the literature, here are just a few....
>
>
>Some examples:

You forget the first one. Note the first use of six million also.

1919 --We find the use of the term six million as far back as 1919¹
in regard to Jews in Germany. This speech even blames it partially on a
"<strong>bigoted lust for jewish blood</strong>." And this is the only such
blame of bigotry or blood related to Jews to come out of WW I.

"<strong>Six million men and women are dying</STRONG> from lack of the
necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And
<strong>this fate</strong> is upon them through <strong>no fault of their
own</strong>, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through
the awful tyranny of war and a <strong>bigoted lust for jewish blood</strong>.

"In this <strong>threatened holocaust of human life</strong>, forgotten are
the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of
historical interpretation; and the determination to help the helpless, to
shelter the homeless, to clothe the naked and to feed the hungry becomes a
religion at whose altar men of every race can worship and women of every creed
can kneel..."

_____

Spielberg bought an Oscar with a Schindler.
"Fight hate with obsenity." OBCon
If using jew as an adjective is antisemitic so is using arab as an adjective.
Any sufficienty advanced source code will look like magic.

[Dene Bebbington]

As per usual Mr Giwer posts something from a web site with no indication
where the material came from, it might as well just have been made up by
him if he's unable to point us to the source of these quotations.

--
Dene Bebbington

"I mean, who would have noticed | "It is impossible to enjoy idling
another madman around here?!" | thoroughly unless one has plenty
- Blackadder | of work to do." - Jerome K Jerome

[Allison Tait]

In response to tom moran, who, amongst other things, accused me of
"stating the fact in a very matter-of-fact way", I am posting some of the
data on the non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust. I'm sure any deniers
out there who can count will be able to verify that I have accounted for
"at least ten percent", as requested by Mr moran.

Alexander Dallin _German Rule in Russia 1941-1945_ Octagon Books, 1980
pg 427: "The Fate of Soviet Prisoners of War (as of May 1 1944)":

/ In OKH custody/ In OKW custody/Total
Total number captured / / / 5,160,000
Of these, transferred / / /
from OKH to OKW / / 3,110,000 /
Remaining under OKH / / /
control / 2,050,000 / /
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Recorded deaths in PW / / /
camps and compounds / 845,000 / 1,136,000 / 1,981,000
Released to civilian or / / /
military status / 535,000 / 283,000 / 818,000
Escapes, Exterminations, / / /
Not Accounted For, Deaths/ / /
and disappearances in / / /
transit / 495,000 / 746,000 / 1,308,000
Surviving as POWs / 175,000 / 878,000 / 1,053,000

Yitzhak Arad _Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka: The Operation Reinhard Death
Camps_ Indiana University Press, 1987
pg 151: "On December 16, 1942, Himmler issued an order to send all
Gypsies to the concentration camps...The Gypsies were sent to
Auswitz-Birkenau where a special Gypsy camp was erected. Over 20,000
Gypsies...were sent to this camp, and most of them were gassed there...
pg 153: "The number of Gypsy victims at Treblinka can be
estimated at over 2000.

Vara Laska _Different Voices: Women and the Holocaust_ Paragon House, 1993
pg 261: "Very little has been written about the tens of thousands
of homosexuals who were the damnedest of the damned...in the
concentration camps. During the twelve years of Nazi rule, nearly 50,000
were convicted of the crime of homosexuality. The majority ended up in
concentration camps, and virtually all of them perished.

Frank Rector _The Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals_ Stein and Day, 1981
pg 116: "...at least 500,000 gays died in the Holocaust."

Gisela Bock _Different Voices: Women and the Holocaust_ Paragon House, 1993
pg 172: "Patients in..."closed institutions" were not sterilized
if they stayed there at their own expense...However, this option was
closed by the "euthenasia" project "T4" in which from 1939 to 1941 up to
100,000 inmates of these institutions were killed outright as "useless
eaters"...the prohibition against bearing "unworthy" children was
expanded into the mass murder of 5000 such children, sixteen years and
under...

Richard C Lukas _The Forgotten Holocaust: The Poles Under German
Occupation_ University Press of Kentucky, 1986
pg 3: "On October 25, 1939...Various branches of the army and
police carried out 714 executions, which took the lives of 16,376 people,
the majority of whom were Polish Christians...The first victims of the
campaign were a number of Boy Scouts, twelve to sixteen years of age...
pg 38: "As a result of almost six years of war, Poland lost
6,028,000 of its citizens, or 22 percent of its total population, the
highest ratio of losses to population of any country in Europe. About 50
percent of these victims were Polish Christians, and 50 percent were
Polish Jews. Approximately 5,384,000 or 89.9 percent of Polish war
losses (Jews and Gentiles) were the victims of prisons, death camps,
raids, executions, annihilation of ghettoes, epidemics, starvation,
excessive work, and ill treatment.

Martin Gilbert _The Holocaust_ Fontana, 1987
pg 807: "Jews and Gypsies formed the largest groups of those
killed, but other groups had also been singled out by the Nazis:
homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Soviet prisoners of war and tens of
thousands of Spanish republicans. These Spaniards had
been...deported...to Mauthausen in 1940 and systematically worked to
death in the stone quarry there, or shot at random

Wolodymyr Kosyk _The Third Reich and the Ukraine_ Peter Lang, 1993
pg 139:"By the middle of October 1941, close to 10,000 non-Jews
were shot at Babyn Yar.
pg 144:"According to SS Gruppenfuhrer Muller, head of the
Gestapo, by 5 December 1941 they had been able to round up 22,000
prisoners of war, of whom 16,000 were liquidated.

[tom moran]

Allison Tait:

>>No. Of the 12 million murdered by the Nazis about 6 million were
>>Jewish. Other victims were Romanies (Gypsies), Polish nationalists,
>>homosexuals and the disabled. : ------------AEE6DE269771

Moran:

> Allison, I see you have given the facts quite matter of factly.
>Could you give just a little account of the other 6,000,000 said to
>have been exterminated? Lets say a convincing account of just 10%.

Moran:

Well its been three weeks and no Allison Tait to come back and
give just the "10%". That's the usual. Come out and just make a blank
statement, and then disappear when a little challenge comes up.

I wonder if Allison is still holding to the notion, now that he,
she couldn't do it? Well blindly accepted beliefs are hard to let go
of for some. They get the notion, or they accept the notion, and then,
there's no turning back.

[Allison Tait]

Allison Tait (at...@uoguelph.ca) wrote:

: Yitzhak Arad _Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka: The Operation Reinhard Death

: Camps_ Indiana University Press, 1987
: pg 151: "On December 16, 1942, Himmler issued an order to send all
: Gypsies to the concentration camps...The Gypsies were sent to
: Auswitz-Birkenau where a special Gypsy camp was erected. Over 20,000
: Gypsies...were sent to this camp, and most of them were gassed there...
: pg 153: "The number of Gypsy victims at Treblinka can be
: estimated at over 2000.

Just as clarification: the total death toll amongst the Romany (Gypsies)
is estimated at between 100,000 and a quarter of a million. Most of the
Romany victims were not deported to concentration camps but executed "on
the spot" in Nazi-occupied Europe, especially in the former Soviet Union and
the Balkans.

Sources: Nora Levin, _The Holocaust_: Schocken Books, 1973, pg 668
Martin Gilbert, _The Holocaust_: Fontana, 1987, pg 824

[Kruger]

On {Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:28:14 +0000}, {Dene Bebbington <de...@bebbo.demon.co.uk>}

If you were an honest human being instead of a holohugger you would admit
that the source is given at the website.

But we all know you are not an honest person, but rather a jew.

_____

Spielberg bought an Oscar with a Schindler.
"Fight hate with obsenity." OBCon
If using jew as an adjective is antisemitic so is using arab as an adjective.
Any sufficienty advanced source code will look like magic.

If the truth is antisemitc then antisemitism is justified.

[SOG]

Terrific response David!

;-)

SOG

[SOG]

Do you presume to call Eisenhower, The Pope, Churchill, Truman and other
liars Moron/Moran. What an ASSHOLE you are.

I wish 10 plagues on you and your scum family this year Moron!

SOG
Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org
Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org
Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org

[SOG]

Are you a Doctor of Rectal Retrospective. I suspect you are more of an
ASSHOLE!

[SOG]

Keeping track of the fact no one takes you seriously skate renter. A pox
on your house and 10 plagues on your scum family

[SOG]

They really don't care about the truth Allison....
They fabricate their own.

;-)

SOG

[SOG]

Do you have the cajones to call Eisenhower, Truman, The Pope, Churchill
and others liars.

Moran you dumpster pirate, you are a true moron in every sense of the
word. Hope you and your family are visited by 10 or more plagues this
year ASSHOLE

[Dene Bebbington]

What website is that then? Just a little detail you forgot to furnish us
with, why is that?

> But we all know you are not an honest person, but rather a jew.

Oh really, first time I've ever been called Jewish.

[tom moran]

>I'm surprised that you a re all hooked into replying to this snail
>brain's nonsense with facts that will NEVER change his mind. He sees it
>as a game in which the mice scurry to answer his stupidity with facts of
>their own. The only thin Moran will understand is a boot in the face or
>the butt either one as they are bot interchangeable as are his mouth and
>rectum.

>
>SOG
>
>Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org
>Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org
>Please visit the Jewish Defense League Web Page at www.jdl.org

It seems this Mel Goldstein is the official representative and
spokesperson for the Jewish Defense League. We could assume whatever
he puts out here, and left standing unapposed, represents the official
mentality of the group.

[Madison Maxwell]

On {21 Feb 1997 01:18:04 GMT}, {at...@uoguelph.ca (Allison Tait)} wrote in
{alt.revisionism}:
[AG the Marduk]

Where are the graves?

_____

Keren, YFE, McFee, McCarthy ALL lied about Leuchter's report.
Keren, YFE, McFee, McCarthy ALL lied about Leuchter's character.
Keren repeated the same lies about the Pattle Paper in hundreds of posts.
YFE LIED about the Freemen Brothers case in Pennsylvania.
Keren, PhD CS, thinks spreadsheets have to do with word processing.
Gas me, smash me, I'm negotiating the movie rights.Leave bruises for the camera, please.

Spielberg bought an Oscar with a Schindler.
"Fight hate with obsenity." OBCon
If using jew as an adjective is antisemitic so is using arab as an adjective.
Any sufficienty advanced source code will look like magic.
If the truth is antisemitc then antisemitism is justified.

Silly shit McCarthy devotes a web page to his buns or gerbs or something like that.

[Allison Tait]

Madison Maxwell (Tan...@ChunckaChunka.com) wrote:
: On {21 Feb 1997 01:18:04 GMT}, {at...@uoguelph.ca (Allison Tait)} wrote in
: {alt.revisionism}:
: [AG the Marduk]

: >
: >Just as clarification: the total death toll amongst the Romany (Gypsies)

: >is estimated at between 100,000 and a quarter of a million. Most of the
: >Romany victims were not deported to concentration camps but executed "on
: >the spot" in Nazi-occupied Europe, especially in the former Soviet Union and
: >the Balkans.
: >
: >Sources: Nora Levin, _The Holocaust_: Schocken Books, 1973, pg 668
: > Martin Gilbert, _The Holocaust_: Fontana, 1987, pg 824

: Where are the graves?

The graves were large trenches dug behind the execution sites.
For pictures of mass executions in the Soviet Union and Ukraine, see:
http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg1.html
http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg2.html
http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg3.html
http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg4.html
The trenches dug for disposal of the bodies are clearly visible.

[Allison Tait]

Allison Tait (at...@uoguelph.ca) wrote:

: The graves were large trenches dug behind the execution sites.

: For pictures of mass executions in the Soviet Union and Ukraine, see:
: http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg1.html
: http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg2.html
: http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg3.html
: http://modb.oce.ulg.ac.be/schmitz/Holocaust/ori.eg4.html
: The trenches dug for disposal of the bodies are clearly visible.

Sorry, but I typed the web sites in wrong. for the reduced pictures,
there should not be an "ori" before the "eg(1,2,3,or 4)". For the
full-sized pictures, type ori.eg(1-4).gif

Sorry if that caused any confusion.

[Rev Ignatius McTavish]

SOG wrote:
>
> Do you presume to call Eisenhower, The Pope, Churchill, Truman and other
> liars Moron/Moran. What an ASSHOLE you are.
>
> I wish 10 plagues on you and your scum family this year Moron!
>
> SOG

We'll believe that G-d is on your side when you part the Red Sea
nutcase!
Rev Ignatius

[Gord McFee]

In message <33178D...@phoenix.net> - Rev Ignatius McTavish
<tav...@phoenix.net> writes:
:>

They already did it, dimwit. We'll believe God is on your side when you
part your hair.

--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time

[SOG]

Great Post Gord!

SOG

Gord McFee <gmc...@ibm.net> wrote in article
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