Now 3.000 counted Linux users
Harald T. Alvestrand
Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
But the counting is tapering off; here are the number of letters processed
by the system each day:
Tue Sep 28: 17
Wed Sep 29: 173
Thu Sep 30: 162
Fri Oct 1: 861 (date of initial c.o.l.announce posting)
Sat Oct 2: 184
Sun Oct 3: 189
Mon Oct 4: 282
Tue Oct 5: 158
Wed Oct 6: 110
Thu Oct 7: 142
Fri Oct 8: 377 (date of posting of "2.000 reached" posting)
Sat Oct 9: 96
Sun Oct 10: 71
Mon Oct 11: 139
Tue Oct 12: 104
Wed Oct 13: 45
Thu Oct 14: 55
The registry is still located at
Send a message with one of the subject lines:
I use Linux at home
I use Linux at home and at work
I use Linux at work
I do not use Linux
You will receive an E-mail with the current count.
Now for the details....
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LINUX counter status, as of Fri Oct 15 15:24:24 MET 1993
Number of messages processed: 3190
Number of current votes : 3076 (114 revotes)
Number of Linux users : 3029 (47 non-users voted)
PROBABLE DISTRIBUTION OF PLACES WHERE LINUX IS USED
1932 62% at home
714 23% at home and at work
220 7% at work
163 5% somewhere
47 1% not used
BY COUNTRY ONLY
1295 us 508 de 177 gb 140 ca 128 au
126 nl 105 fi 86 se 62 no 60 fr
53 at 44 dk 27 be 26 ch 21 za
17 it 16 jp 14 xw 9 pl 8 hk
8 tw 8 es 8 xe 7 nz 7 ie
6 pt 6 br 5 gr 5 cl 5 is
5 xx 4 hu 4 in 4 il 3 cz
3 si 3 co 2 lu 2 su 2 mx
2 ro 2 ee 1 cr 1 th 1 hr
1 cs 1 my 1 ua
RANKING RELATIVE TO POPULATION
Country #Linux MPop Lin/M
============================================================
1 Finland 105 5.0 21.0
2 Iceland 5 0.3 19.7
3 Norway 62 4.3 14.4
4 Sweden 86 8.6 10.0
5 Denmark 44 5.1 8.6
6 Netherlands 126 14.9 8.5
7 Australia 128 17.1 7.5
8 Austria 53 7.6 7.0
9 Germany 508 79.1 6.4
10 Canada 140 26.6 5.3
11 USA 1295 249.6 5.2
12 Luxembourg 2 0.4 5.1
13 Switzerland 26 6.7 3.9
14 Great Britain 177 57.2 3.1
15 Belgium 27 9.9 2.7
16 New Zealand 7 3.4 2.1
17 Ireland 7 3.5 2.0
18 Slovenia 3 2.0 1.5
19 Hong Kong 8 5.9 1.4
20 Estonia 2 1.6 1.2
21 France 60 56.2 1.1
22 South Africa 21 30.2 0.7
23 Israel 4 6.3 0.6
24 Portugal 6 10.3 0.6
25 Greece 5 10.1 0.5
26 Taiwan 8 20.3 0.4
27 Hungaria 4 10.5 0.4
28 Chile 5 13.5 0.4
29 Costa Rica 1 3.1 0.3
30 Czech Rebublic 3 10.0 0.3
31 Italy 17 57.7 0.3
32 Poland 9 38.4 0.2
33 Croatia 1 4.8 0.2
34 Spain 8 39.5 0.2
35 Japan 16 123.3 0.1
36 Colombia 3 34.3 0.1
37 Romania 2 23.2 0.1
38 Czechoslovakia (former) 1 15.7 0.1
39 Malaysia 1 18.0 0.1
40 Brazil 6 158.2 0.0
41 Europe (Somewhere in it) 8 320.0 0.0
42 Mexico 2 81.4 0.0
43 Ukraine 1 51.9 0.0
44 Thailand 1 57.6 0.0
45 Soviet Union (former) 2 147.4 0.0
46 India 4 844.0 0.0
47 The World (Somewhere in it) 14 5000.0 0.0
48 Unknown 5 5000.0 0.0
The following table is used to map the envelope FROM address to
a country code. When I have time to completely rewrite the counter,
I will allow people to state their country of origin; at the moment,
this will have to do.
# Mapping file for domain -> country
# Each line is a country + domains that map to this country
# More than one line per country can exist
# Pseudo-domains "xw" and "xe" are used for Europe and the world
#
#-------- DEFAULTS for top level domains
xw: net int bitnet uucp unknown
us: edu gov mil org com
gb: uk
#-------- SUBDOMAINS of the defaulted domains
# Subdomains of ORG
de: sub.org
# Subdomains of COM - known US should be listed, too - but are too many
no: hydro.com
fi: valmet.com nokia.com
# Subdomains of NET
us: ans.net ci.net cerf.net clark.net concert.net cyber.net digex.net
us: holonet.net near.net njin.net nwnet.net
us: internic.net rahul.net speedway.net tyrell.net uu.net
de: germany.eu.net xlink.net cube.net
fr: fr.net
nl: nl.net
se: swip.net
ca: north.net
gb: pipex.net
# Subdomains of BITNET
de: dbnrhrz1.bitnet
ch: cfruni51.bitnet cfruni52.bitnet
# Europe
xe: eu.net
# Stuff that is not so orthogonal, but found from the logs
de: baghira brand spatzi.uucp small.uucp rniwh.uucp rnima.uucp rniil.uucp
at: timbuktu.uucp
hk: dec20
us: waggen.uucp
gb: nimbus.uucp
--
Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Harald.T....@uninett.no
G=Harald;I=T;S=Alvestrand;O=uninett;P=uninett;C=no
+47 7 59 70 94
My son's name is Torbjørn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash.
Mark A. Davis
>Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
Only 3 users?? :) :)
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Wayne Schlitt
>
> h...@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
> >Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
>
> Only 3 users?? :) :)
No, he said 3.000 users, not 3,000 users. 3,000 wouldn't make much
sense since you can't have fractional users.
(To those who don't know, many places in the world reverse the meaning
of "," and "." in numbers. There are also differences in the way
times are presented (13:37 vs 1:37pm), and dates 10/15/93 vs 15/10/93
vs 93/15/10. I hear that there are actually places on the planet that
don't use english as their primary language too. :-)
-wayne
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Telnet over, it's a simple hack.
Port one-nineteen is where it's at.
and you can get anything you want on Alice's NNTP.
Kai Petzke
>Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
I may repost something, but there is much better data available:
German iX magazine recently had a survey under their readers. One of their
questions was, which operating system(s) they use at home and at work.
They asked 260 people, which is a bit less then 1 percent of the iX readers.
29 % used Linux at home.
6 % used Linux at work.
If 260 people are one percent, then there are 26 000 readers. 29% of them
are over
7 500 Linux users
and they all live in Germany or German speaking countries, and they all read
iX, Europe's biggest Unix magazine.
--
Kai
w...@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Advertisement by Microsoft in a well-known German magazine:
If you don't like our programmes, than make your own ones.
However, they expect you to use Microsoft products for this -:)
Mark A. Davis
>In article <1993Oct15.1...@taylor.wyvern.com> ma...@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>
>> h...@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
> ^^
>> >Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
>>
>> Only 3 users?? :) :)
>No, he said 3.000 users, not 3,000 users. 3,000 wouldn't make much
>sense since you can't have fractional users.
>(To those who don't know, many places in the world reverse the meaning
>of "," and "." in numbers. There are also differences in the way
>times are presented (13:37 vs 1:37pm), and dates 10/15/93 vs 15/10/93
>vs 93/15/10. I hear that there are actually places on the planet that
>don't use english as their primary language too. :-)
Hopefully Linuxers haven't become too serious and forgot about humor!
Thomas Koenig
>In article <1993Oct15.1...@taylor.wyvern.com> ma...@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>
>> h...@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
> ^^
>> >Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
>>
>> Only 3 users?? :) :)
>No, he said 3.000 users, not 3,000 users. 3,000 wouldn't make much
>sense since you can't have fractional users.
>(To those who don't know, many places in the world reverse the meaning
>of "," and "." in numbers. There are also differences in the way
>times are presented (13:37 vs 1:37pm), and dates 10/15/93 vs 15/10/93
>vs 93/15/10. I hear that there are actually places on the planet that
>don't use english as their primary language too. :-)
But how can they be running Linux when it only supports the "C"
and "POSIX" locales at the moment? :-)
--
Thomas König, ig...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig...@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
logarithmic diagram.
Ed Haymore
| vs 93/15/10. I hear that there are actually places on the planet that
| don't use english as their primary language too. :-)
There sure are -- half of my computer manuals are written there.
:)
--
Ed Haymore
e...@byu.edu
Dr. E.W. Lisse
The country list is by no means correct. It takes the uucp From line and
not the From: or Sender: line. It is very nice of kudu.ru.ac.ZA to
forward my mail (and for free!) but I am located in NA (a registered if
empty top level domain) which is most definitively ZA (any more) :-)-O
ru.ac.ZA forwards for several countries in SADECC and they will all be
swallowed. This of course goes for ANY country that is MXed and I do not
think this is right !
greetings, el
--
Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / (sp...@hippo.ru.ac.ZA)
Katatura State Hospital \ | (e...@lisse.NA)
Dept of Obstetrics & Gyn \ * / Private Bag 13215
Windhoek, Namibia ;____/ (postm...@uonamib.NA) Postmaster NAmibia
The Fool
>In article <1993Oct15.1...@taylor.wyvern.com> ma...@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>
>> h...@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
> ^^
>(To those who don't know, many places in the world reverse the meaning
>of "," and "." in numbers. There are also differences in the way
>times are presented (13:37 vs 1:37pm), and dates 10/15/93 vs 15/10/93
>vs 93/15/10. I hear that there are actually places on the planet that
>don't use english as their primary language too. :-)
No!! <gasp!>
Heresy! Send in the Marines! :)
The Fool
;-)
Harald T. Alvestrand
|>
|> If 260 people are one percent, then there are 26 000 readers. 29% of them
|> are over
|>
|> 7 500 Linux users
|>
This is an interesting number.
If we, for instance, assume that:
- Only Ix readers are registered in the Linux count
- All German Linux users are Ix readers
- The average proportion of registering/nonregistering is the same in all
other countries,
we get:
German registering proportion : 530 (today)/7500 = 7 %
Total count (today) : 3172
Total Linux population : 3172 / 0.07 = 45.314
Of course, if we assume that only half the registered Linux users
are Ix readers, to be counted in the 7500, then the numbers
become:
German Ix readers registering : 265/7500 = 3.5 %
Total Linux population : 3172/0.035 = 90.628
(Note the inconsistent use of the dot. I've been dain-bramaged
by American cultural imperialism to the degree that I write "dot"
even where I pronounce it "comma"......)
Harald T. Alvestrand
|> Just my two cents worth:
|> The country list is by no means correct. It takes the uucp From line and
|> not the From: or Sender: line. It is very nice of kudu.ru.ac.ZA to
|> forward my mail (and for free!) but I am located in NA (a registered if
|> empty top level domain) which is most definitively ZA (any more) :-)-O
|>
|> ru.ac.ZA forwards for several countries in SADECC and they will all be
|> swallowed. This of course goes for ANY country that is MXed and I do not
|> think this is right !
|>
|> greetings, el
I'm sorry, this is not right.
The damage that UUCP mailers do to the envelope FROM address is
IMHO a misreading of the intent of this field, and mailers that
construct such misleading envelope FROM addresses should be reconfigured.
In most cases, both From addresses are the same; in several cases,
the From: header field is not replyable, so the message bounces.
The reason that I did it this way was that there is a small degree of
lesser risk to registering the envelope "from" address (which is controlled
by the mailer) than registering the header "from" address (which is controlled
by the user). I've already had mail that I *know* is faked (even though they
managed to fake both fields).
A "My country is" field is planned for the next version, but I refuse
to even *consider* giving a date for the installation of this.
BTW, there is only one vote registered for the ru.ac.za domain.
Charles Hawkins
|>
|> Yes, we've reached 3.000 counted! Now if we could only count the uncounted...
|>
could cheat), because my department has just bought 20 Viglens that are used
to run linux, and I know of at least 7 other Linux boxes around the research groups.
Unfortunately they are used by REAL users, rather than us Hacker types
and therefore they don't read these newsgroups. Any way of letting sysadmins
vote for all their users?
Charles Hawkins
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