Murder outside my home.
incubus
neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
outside my house. I was at the pub last night. If I was at home I would
without doubt have heard it. I got little info from the police about the
incident other than that the victim was a chap who lived 3 doors from me.
Nobody knows or is disclosing why the arsehole killer murdered him. I have
to say, it brought things into a perspective for me
Simon Gartner
Maybe you should move house to a safer area - and to somewhere where you
won't keep the memory of this in mind
incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> wrote in message
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:57:30 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:56 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>> Hello all. Last night someone was murdered outside my house. One of my
>> neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
>> outside my house.
>
>So, the lighting on that bit of path is pretty bad, then ..?
>
>> I was at the pub last night. If I was at home I would
>> without doubt have heard it. I got little info from the police about the
>> incident other than that the victim was a chap who lived 3 doors from me.
>> Nobody knows or is disclosing why the arsehole killer murdered him. I have
>> to say, it brought things into a perspective for me
>
>Jokes aside ... fucking awful. :-(
>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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Desi is afraid of his own words! He can be reached at des...@noos.fr or
des...@zeouane.org.
As everyone knows, only COWARDS forge posts yet don't allow their own to be
archived!
Now Desi, Tell us about the Baltimore County police.
Brian Molko
Hi Incubus,
News reports of violent crimes are not only disturbing, but they can
also cause a person to question his own personal safety. If the fear
of becoming a victim yourself has ever caused you to consider moving
to the safest possible area however, you may want to think again -
apparently the safest block in America is the Death Row cell block.
But you live in UK, don't you. So I suggest you to go to the pub as
usual. LOL
Brian
John Rennie
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> > neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
> > outside my house.
dnip
Any chance of a newspaper reference?
incubus
"Simon Gartner" <simon_ga...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My sympathies also.
>
> Maybe you should move house to a safer area - and to somewhere where you
> won't keep the memory of this in mind
I don't know which is more scary. The fact that the victim was a harmless
old man or that the incident happened outside my house. The only memory to
this poor man is a blood stain on the driveway which will probably washed
away when it rains.
What is wrong with people?????
incubus
"Brian Molko" <brian...@corpuschristi.usa.com> wrote in message
news:d2899b13.02071...@posting.google.com...
you're right. I was at the pub with my lady tonight and for a while I forgot
about it. My wife seems to have hardly noticed the incident. Women can be so
much harder than men when they want to be
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:19:19 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:15:49 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> News reports of violent crimes are not only disturbing, but they can
>>> also cause a person to question his own personal safety. If the fear
>>> of becoming a victim yourself has ever caused you to consider moving
>>> to the safest possible area however, you may want to think again -
>>> apparently the safest block in America is the Death Row cell block.
>>> But you live in UK, don't you. So I suggest you to go to the pub as
>>> usual. LOL
>
>> you're right. I was at the pub with my lady tonight and for a while I
>forgot
>> about it. My wife seems to have hardly noticed the incident. Women can be
>so
>> much harder than men when they want to be
>
>*ding*
>
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>Des On The Road |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:18:42 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:13:22 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
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>>> My sympathies also.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should move house to a safer area - and to somewhere where you
>>> won't keep the memory of this in mind
>
>> I don't know which is more scary. The fact that the victim was a harmless
>> old man or that the incident happened outside my house. The only memory to
>> this poor man is a blood stain on the driveway which will probably washed
>> away when it rains.
>>
>> What is wrong with people?????
>
>No respect anymore, incubus. One group of people think that they can
>kill with impunity, and the other think that they can kill those who
>kill. It's a vicious circle, and one that we can only hope to break,
>when we realise that killing does not solve killing.
>
>The owner of one of our favourite restaurants where we used to live,
>before Drewl had it firebombed, was beaten to death in 1998. He had
>100 FrF (about £10) on him at the time. A life for 100 FrF ? It's
>enough to put you off your chicken fajitas ... :-(
>
>--
>Des On The Road |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:13:22 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>> My sympathies also.
>>
>> Maybe you should move house to a safer area - and to somewhere where you
>> won't keep the memory of this in mind
> I don't know which is more scary. The fact that the victim was a harmless
> old man or that the incident happened outside my house. The only memory to
> this poor man is a blood stain on the driveway which will probably washed
> away when it rains.
>
> What is wrong with people?????
No respect anymore, incubus. One group of people think that they can
kill with impunity, and the other think that they can kill those who
kill. It's a vicious circle, and one that we can only hope to break,
when we realise that killing does not solve killing.
The owner of one of our favourite restaurants where we used to live,
before Drewl had it firebombed, was beaten to death in 1998. He had
100 FrF (about £10) on him at the time. A life for 100 FrF ? It's
enough to put you off your chicken fajitas ... :-(
--
Des On The Road |CUNT#1
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For ten pounds he would have got the needle. And justifiably so.
Hugh Neary
wrote:
>Hello all. Last night someone was murdered outside my house. One of my
>neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
>outside my house. I was at the pub last night. If I was at home I would
>without doubt have heard it. I got little info from the police about the
>incident other than that the victim was a chap who lived 3 doors from me.
>Nobody knows or is disclosing why the arsehole killer murdered him.
What did the killer have against bottoms? How does he normally go
about beating someones bottom to death without causing the death of
other organs also?
What part of the UK do you reside in? I saw nothing reported for the
Midlands or North West.
Was your neighbour into selling drugs, child molesting animal cruelty
etc ? Was he an American?
> I have
>to say, it brought things into a perspective for me
>
HN
incubus
"Hugh Neary" <spamstopper@net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:56 +0100, "incubus" <inc...@hellfire.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello all. Last night someone was murdered outside my house. One of my
> >neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
> >outside my house. I was at the pub last night. If I was at home I would
> >without doubt have heard it. I got little info from the police about the
> >incident other than that the victim was a chap who lived 3 doors from me.
> >Nobody knows or is disclosing why the arsehole killer murdered him.
>
> What did the killer have against bottoms? How does he normally go
> about beating someones bottom to death without causing the death of
> other organs also?
LOL. Stop it you madman :-)
>
> What part of the UK do you reside in? I saw nothing reported for the
> Midlands or North West.
East midlands. I have seen nothing in the news either. Perhaps these things
take a while
>
> Was your neighbour into selling drugs, child molesting animal cruelty
> etc ? Was he an American?
No he was a harmless old man. He was a nice friendly bloke who always reeked
of booze but would always take time to speak to you.
I don't know what he was into to be honest but i think he must have upset
somebody, probably by breathing air in somebodies area.
John Rennie
"Hugh Neary" <spamstopper@net> wrote in message
news:c0qijuo167dkdkoa4...@4ax.com...
By this time this murder must have been recorded in several newspapers
- so provide us with the necessary URL(s). Otherwise . . .
>
>
incubus
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:11:20 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Was your neighbour into selling drugs, child molesting animal cruelty
> >> etc ? Was he an American?
>
> > reeked of booze
somebody has a sick sense of humour
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:19:44 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:11:20 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Was your neighbour into selling drugs, child molesting animal cruelty
>>> etc ? Was he an American?
>
>> No he was a harmless old man. He was an agressive old cunt who always
>> reeked of booze
>
>Fuckin' 'ell, he gets everywhere, does PV !!
>
>{ snip }
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:28:26 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:31:26 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
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>>> >> Was your neighbour into selling drugs, child molesting animal cruelty
>>> >> etc ? Was he an American?
>
>>> > No he was a harmless old man. He was an agressive old cunt who always
>>> > reeked of booze
>
>> somebody has a sick sense of humour
>
><fx: raises hand ...>
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Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:30:40 +0000
>
>Le 20 Jul 2002 02:38:39 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> The owner of one of our favourite restaurants where we used to live,
>>> before Drewl had it firebombed, was beaten to death in 1998. He had
>>> 100 FrF (about Ł10) on him at the time. A life for 100 FrF ? It's
>>> enough to put you off your chicken fajitas ... :-(
>
>> For ten pounds he would have got the needle. And justifiably so.
>
>I think that he was already sufficiently pissed off, Jigsaw ...
>
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wrote:
>
>"Hugh Neary" <spamstopper@net> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:56 +0100, "incubus" <inc...@hellfire.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello all. Last night someone was murdered outside my house. One of my
>> >neighbours was bludgeoned to death with a hammer on the bit of path just
>> >outside my house. I was at the pub last night. If I was at home I would
>> >without doubt have heard it. I got little info from the police about the
>> >incident other than that the victim was a chap who lived 3 doors from me.
>> >Nobody knows or is disclosing why the arsehole killer murdered him.
>>
>> What did the killer have against bottoms? How does he normally go
>> about beating someones bottom to death without causing the death of
>> other organs also?
>
>LOL. Stop it you madman :-)
>>
>> What part of the UK do you reside in? I saw nothing reported for the
>> Midlands or North West.
>
>East midlands. I have seen nothing in the news either. Perhaps these things
>take a while
Are you sure the facts are correct?
I would have thought that if the police were involved all traces of
blood would be removed.
I am certainly aware that my poor oxidised Volvo was shifted
from the public thoroughfare that some lowlife torched it on. This was
done at great expense to myself on the grounds of health & safety. [
Some chemical in cooked paint I was told].
Isn't blood considered more lethal these days? I have seen
the odd bit of mayhem on the roads and generally after the accident
the blood & guts are nowhere in sight. The other point is that after a
road death the road is blocked off for hours sometimes while the
police call in photographers & tape measure operators. If the police
go to these lengths to capture piccies of accidental death, wouldn't
they do so much more if the killing was intentional.
Perhaps the victim was "just resting after a long squawk"
HN
JIGSAW1695
Date: 7/21/2002 5:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <k20ljugp06q54kguh...@4ax.com>
===============================
Usually after a lot of blood has been spilled on the ground, the local law
enforcement types call for a fire engine to come and execute "a washdown".
Unfortunatly, in some neighborhood, the citizens already have a bucket of hot
soapy water and bleach standing by.
Anothe interesting tidbit for your your crime fighters notebook, LEO's are not
permitted to take body parts into custody as evidence. Everything, up to and
including bones has falls under the authority of the medical examiners office.
(OK to take its picture though).
incubus
"Hugh Neary" <spamstopper@net> wrote in message
I agree. You would think the first thing they would do would I remember
another incident several years ago where a man who had a messy split up with
his girlfriend got very drunk on brown ale. He visited her in the tower
block she lived (on the 16th floor). She didn't want to know. he pondered
for a while in the corridor outside her flat then threw his unfinished
bottle of brown ale out the window and chucked himself out after it. It took
4 hours for the police to remove the broken body. They didn't even cover the
poor bastard up before hand. When they did finally clean him away, they
didn't get all the stains out that time either :-(
>
> I am certainly aware that my poor oxidised Volvo was shifted
> from the public thoroughfare that some lowlife torched it on. This was
> done at great expense to myself on the grounds of health & safety. [
> Some chemical in cooked paint I was told].
In all fairness to you, you should have been compensated
>
> Isn't blood considered more lethal these days? I have seen
> the odd bit of mayhem on the roads and generally after the accident
> the blood & guts are nowhere in sight. The other point is that after a
> road death the road is blocked off for hours sometimes while the
> police call in photographers & tape measure operators. If the police
> go to these lengths to capture piccies of accidental death, wouldn't
> they do so much more if the killing was intentional.
You are probably right, but the bloodstain was on the footpath where the
murder took place
>
> Perhaps the victim was "just resting after a long squawk"
I wish i knew. The police don't share information with the surrounding
households. I am still waiting to see something in the papers
>
>
> HN
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:15:07 +0000
>
>Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:11:14 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>> I agree. You would think the first thing they would do would I remember
>> another incident several years ago where a man who had a messy split up
>with
>> his girlfriend got very drunk on brown ale. He visited her in the tower
>> block she lived (on the 16th floor). She didn't want to know. he pondered
>> for a while in the corridor outside her flat then threw his unfinished
>> bottle of brown ale out the window and chucked himself out after it. It
>took
>> 4 hours for the police to remove the broken body. They didn't even cover
>the
>> poor bastard up before hand. When they did finally clean him away, they
>> didn't get all the stains out that time either :-(
>
>'shoulda used Daz, then shouldn't they ?
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Murder outside my home.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:31:19 +0000
>
>Le 21 Jul 2002 10:30:55 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>> Anothe interesting tidbit for your your crime fighters notebook, LEO's are
>not
>> permitted to take body parts into custody as evidence. Everything, up to
>and
>> including bones has falls under the authority of the medical examiners
>office.
>> (OK to take its picture though).
>
>Similar in France : the 'médecin légiste' has responsibility for crime
>scene evidence. However, here he _is_ a part of the Police Nationale,
>answerable to the Ministry of the Interior.
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Cerberus
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I'm with you John. This incident was just too convenient.
Bovine Excreta, I suspect. Unless we get a Newspaper reference, when I will
of course retract.
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incubus
> Le Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:11:14 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > I agree. You would think the first thing they would do would I remember
> > another incident several years ago where a man who had a messy split up
with
> > his girlfriend got very drunk on brown ale. He visited her in the tower
> > block she lived (on the 16th floor). She didn't want to know. he
pondered
> > for a while in the corridor outside her flat then threw his unfinished
> > bottle of brown ale out the window and chucked himself out after it. It
took
> > 4 hours for the police to remove the broken body. They didn't even cover
the
> > poor bastard up before hand. When they did finally clean him away, they
> > didn't get all the stains out that time either :-(
>
nah. it got into the cracks
>
> { snip }