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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TFTP server (Madhvi Nundalalee)
2. Re: info on kde autorun.desktop (Janyne Kizer)
3. Re: Konqueror and SSL sites? (Peter Kiem)
4. Re: DNAT? (Mike Burger)
5. Re: TFTP server (Mike Burger)
6. RE: NAT and FTP (Robert Dege)
7. issue Login with KDE (Keraudy Jean)
8. Re: Linuxconf Substitute? (Eric Wood)
9. Re: Linuxconf Substitute? (Chuck Mead)
10. ntpd problem (James Pifer)
11. Messages to this list disappear (Wolfgang Pfeiffer)
12. RE: NAT and FTP (Julian Opificius)
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Message: 1
From: "Madhvi Nundalalee" <mad...@yahoo.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: TFTP server
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:33:35 +0400
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
rpm -q tftp gives answer below.
tftp-0.17-9
Is this the tftp server package?
how do i determine if it's working properly?
Cheers
Madhvi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Burger" <mbu...@bubbanfriends.org>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: TFTP server
> Install the tftp-server package.
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Madhvi Nundalalee wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > How can I make my Linux server act as a TFTP server ?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Madhvi
> >
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:15:54 -0500
From: Janyne Kizer <janyne...@ncsu.edu>
Organization: NC State University, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: info on kde autorun.desktop
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Thanks! I wasn't sure if I could just remove the whole thing file or
not. Since the xterms don't even have floppy drives, it's silly for
them all to be monitoring the CD drive on the server :-)
Brian Ashe wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
> On Wednesday 16 January 2002 04:07, you said something about:
> > > All you have to do is delete (or move) the
> > > ~/.kde/Autostart/Autorun.desktop file.
> >
> > To achieve what? I think you're on the wrong track Janyne asked.....
>
> Nope.
>
> > > >> I was wondering if someone on this list could point me in the
> > > >> direction of information about the proper format of the
> > > >> Auturun.desktop file.
>
> Configuring it would be silly. It is basically just the execution of a
> command. It is the equivilent of the "Startup" folder in WinXX. It just has
> some extra lines that will change icons, etc. So if you wanted to "customize
> it" you would do something like...
>
> change the line that reads...
> Exec=/bin/bash -c "(pid=$(/sbin/pidof autorun) && ps -p $pid u|egrep ^$USER\
> >/dev/null)||if test -O /dev/console -a -x /usr/bin/autorun;then
> /usr/bin/autorun -l --interval=1000 --cdplayer=/usr/bin/kscd & fi"
>
> to...
>
> Exec=/bin/bash -c "echo a > /dev/null"
>
> Now you are executing a command that has no practical purpose, but achieves
> the same result.
>
> > > >> I would like to customize it a bit (at least to
> > > >> figure out what I can removed to stop that darn CD ROM thing starting)
> > > >> and I am having problems finding any documentation about this file.
>
> The ONLY purpose of that file is to execute the command to monitor the CD-R.
> Remove it if you don't want that to happen. It starts the program "autorun"
> (see above). You can place other files like this to have things start
> automatically in the Autostart folder. It is simply like a "rc.d" type area
> for KDE start-up or as I said above like the WinXX Startup folder. So if you
> think of each file as a "program or script to run", then if you don't want
> something to run, remove it.
>
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Message: 3
From: "Peter Kiem" <zor...@zordah.net>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Konqueror and SSL sites?
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:27:56 +1000
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Hi David,
> >I've been very impressed with Konqueror as a web browser but I have never
yet
> >got it to work with an SSL site.
> >
> >If I go to an HTTPS site it just hangs and I have to kill the process.
>
> How about sharing the URL so we can try it? Are you behind a NAT
> gateway? Konqueror hasn't given me any trouble, but there are some
> known buglets in iptables that may cause similar issuelets, for which
> there are fixlets.
Well if I go to hotmail (www.hotmail.com) it gets halfway through displaying
the login screen and hangs.
If I go to my own server and access my webmail (https://www.zordah.net/mail)
it doesn't even load the page at all! I access my webmail every day from
work with IE so I know it is fine.
I just thought of something common between these pages. Both will be doing
redirects to other URLs....Could this be it?
I tried going to my payment page (https://www.zordah.net/payaccount.php)
which doesn't do any redirects and I got half the page loaded but most of
the images didn't load and Konqueror is sitting there with it's cogwheel
spinning in the top right corner. Again in IE this works fine...
My NAT firewall is a Red Hat Linux 6.2 system still running IPChains. I
never had problems with any other browser and SSL sites, just Konqueror.
Regards,
+-----------------------+---------------------------------+
| Peter Kiem | E-Mail : <zor...@zordah.net> |
| Zordah IT | Mobile : +61 0414 724 766 |
| IT Consultancy & | WWW : www.zordah.net |
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:42:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Burger <mbu...@bubbanfriends.org>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: DNAT?
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Thanks, David. Your point is a good one, but for one exception...I'm
using non-routable IPs behind the firewall. When I turn off the firewall,
nothing gets forwarded from the workstations and server behind it.
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote:
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> >On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Andreas Hansson wrote:
> >
> >> For each dnat line, add an accept line in forward:
>
> Andreas' note here brings up another point, Mike. In my (not always)
> humble opinion, it would help you a lot to mentally and physically
> separate the functions of routing and filtering. Your NAT and
> forwarding rules should be in one file, and your packet filtering in
> another. That allows you to isolate the sources of trouble, as well
> as keep those functions separate in your head. In this case, for
> instance, it would have been very desirable to shut down packet
> filtering entirely to ensure that it was not at fault, while leaving
> forwarding/routing rules active.
>
> I have two sets of rules, living at /etc/init.d/router and
> /etc/init.d/firewall, for this reason. This also makes it safe to
> tinker with my routing rules without momentarily leaving my system
> unprotected.
>
> Cheers -d
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:15:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Burger <mbu...@bubbanfriends.org>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: TFTP server
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
The tftp server package is tftp-server.
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Madhvi Nundalalee wrote:
> rpm -q tftp gives answer below.
> tftp-0.17-9
>
> Is this the tftp server package?
> how do i determine if it's working properly?
>
> Cheers
> Madhvi
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Message: 6
Subject: RE: NAT and FTP
From: Robert Dege <r...@amherst.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Date: 17 Jan 2002 08:27:51 -0500
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Rob, you're close, but have a few things mixed up.
You're control port (21) will always stay static on that port. It will
never change unless someone configure the FTP server to listen on a
different port.
Port 20 (the data port) is for active connections. It too is statically
bound to that port. It will never change. however, this is somewhat
insecure, since haxors can use sniffing devices to listen to data
passing on that port.
Hence the introduction of passive connections. When a data transfer is
about to commence, the FTP server sends a port number to the client,
telling it what port the client should communicate on (it's usually a
really high port > 1024). Each time a FTP server must communicate via
passive mode, a different port is randomly chosen as to lower the
possibility of sniffed data.
The FTP client controls whether an active/passive connection is used.
However, certain FTP clients don't give you the option to use either or
(ie: Win95 DOS ftp).
-Rob
> Hey Julian,
>
> Yes, there's something about that. Passive ftp vs active. Active ftp will
> jump around with it use of ports (I don't know if it's the data, control, or
> both that actually jump).
> I'm not sure if you can tell the server whether or not to use passive, but I
> know you can tell the client. Sometimes people forget that IE can be used as
> an ftp client, so don't forget to set the passive ftp check box in the IE
> tools/options area.
>
> Hopefully you won't need a whole book on ftp. It's a lot less complex than
> something like email or DNS!!
>
> Nice to see you around again Julian!
>
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
> [mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Julian Opificius
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:48 PM
> To: redha...@redhat.com
> Subject: RE: NAT and FTP
>
>
> Cheers Robert. Is it always port 20? Somehow I thought that a different
> port was opened up for every simultaneous connection.
>
> I sense the imminent need to purchase another O'Reilly book ... ;-)
>
> julian.
>
>
> At 09:35 PM 1/16/02, you wrote:
> >One port's for control and one's for data:
> >
> >make sure you check this out: "cat /etc/services | grep ftp"
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
> >[mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Julian Opificius
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:12 PM
> >To: redha...@redhat.com
> >Subject: Re: NAT and FTP
> >
> >
> >Why's that?
> >
> >j.
> >===================
> >At 08:58 PM 1/16/02, you wrote:
> > >You might want to open up port 20, as well.
> > >
> > >On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'm using NAT on my Cisco 678 DSL modem, to connect my real IP into my
> > > > private LAN.
> > > > I want to run an FTP server on my Linux box, accessible from the
> outside
> > > > world. I know I have to open up port 21, 'cos it's the FTP control
> port,
> > > > but do I have to open up any other ports in order to allow data
> >transfers?
> > > >
> > > > julian.
> > > >
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Message: 7
From: Keraudy Jean <KERA...@thmulti.com>
To: "'redha...@redhat.com'" <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: issue Login with KDE
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:41:02 +0100
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Hello,
I have just installed RH 7.2 on my PC. This PC is connected on a lan and I'm
using NIS from SUN for users authentication, automount and hosts address.
This service work well( ypwhich ok, ypcat map ok) and I can from the root
account switch to a user account with su - command.
But unfortunately, I can't log on the KDE desktop with a user account. I
receive always this error message:
" there was a error setting up inter-process communication for KDE. The
message
returned by the system was :
Could not read network communication list
/home/user/.DCOPserver_hostname_0
Please check that the dtcopserver program is running !"
And KDE reset the connection...
Any idea ?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Greetings
Jean Keraudy.
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Message: 8
From: "Eric Wood" <er...@interplas.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:02:01 -0500
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
What's kills me is that RH "deprecates" Linuxconf in there docs and has no
substitute - what a testimony! In fact, RH always ships a outdated version
of LC, with most of the modules disabled. RH never has considered pulling
the latest LC down from Jacques' site which he made compatible with the new
distribution. Therefor the end result is a lot of newbie's getting a bad
first impression of LC.
Indeed Ani, always rpm -e linxconf*/gnome-linuxconf* from RH and download
the real stuff from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/.
My question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can
only do fewer things.
-eric wood
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ani_Adarsh" <Ani_A...@satyam.com>
> I thought linuxconf was cool i upgraded to RH 7.2 and installed linuxconf
> too ...
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Chuck Mead <c...@MoonGroup.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
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On 17 Jan 2002, Bret Hughes posted the following:
BH>Speaking of the shell-scripting list I guess chuck locked down hie mail
BH>server REALLY tight. I can not longer post to it or sen him a mail to
BH>complain about it. I think it is because I use a sendmail server that
BH>sits on my private ip network. Verio handles incomming mail for us but
BH>they piss and moan about sending it. I hate to change because I like
BH>having the "sent OK " in my logs if the mail made it to the recipents
BH>server. Of course it may be a procmail rule that bounces all mail from
BH>bhughes.* :(
The spam was getting real bad. I've got postfix rejecting mail from
MTA's which have broken reverse DNS.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:21:39 -0500
To: redha...@redhat.com
From: James Pifer <jamesre...@tnjinfl.com>
Subject: ntpd problem
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
I had a long winded message but decided to keep it more simple. I have a
7.0 box running ntpd 4.0.99 with clients of both Redhat and Windoze. I
think everything on the server side is working, and I think the Windoze
clients are working, but I'm having problems with the Linux clients.
How can I verify if things are working right on the time server and the
Linux clients?
Are there log files for ntp?
What should I look for and where?
What commands would be useful?
thanks,
James
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:24:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer <wolfgang...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Messages to this list disappear
To: redha...@redhat.com
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Hi,
I'm subscribed with 2 addresses to this list: one of them is my Yahoo
adddress, the other one is the one I have from my ISP.
Delivery to my Yahoo-address is disabled. I receive the Redhat messages
to the address I have from my ISP.
My messages to this list disappear - I sent them using the smtprelay of
my ISP (which is t-online.de), but changed the From-Header of these
messages to my Yahoo-address (address of this message).
It worked without problems some time to send them with this From-header
change, until one or two weeks ago when my mails to this list never
showed up or -- as it happened some days ago -- appeared on the list
with a delay of several days.
Usually there's no problem in sending mails to adressees other than the
Redhat-List this way.
This message is written and sent directly from inside my Yahoo-mail
account ... I'm anxious to see whether this will work.
I already wrote days ago to some Redhat folks I thought were
responsible for the maintenance of the list, with no answer so far --
and it's becoming urgent now because of problems I'm having with my
system.
Thanks in anticipation
Wolfgang
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:49:12 -0600
To: redha...@redhat.com
From: Julian Opificius <juli...@mninter.net>
Subject: RE: NAT and FTP
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com
Robert,
Thanks for explaining that to us. I thought that was how it was.
My question then, remains:-
If I want the server to support passive mode, and open up a set of ports to
support it, how do I instruct the wu-ftpd to use the set of ports that I
have opened up? I cannot see any configuration options in kwuftpd that
address this.
Thanks,
Julian.
====================================
At 07:27 AM 1/17/02, you wrote:
>Rob, you're close, but have a few things mixed up.
>
>You're control port (21) will always stay static on that port. It will
>never change unless someone configure the FTP server to listen on a
>different port.
>
>Port 20 (the data port) is for active connections. It too is statically
>bound to that port. It will never change. however, this is somewhat
>insecure, since haxors can use sniffing devices to listen to data
>passing on that port.
>
>Hence the introduction of passive connections. When a data transfer is
>about to commence, the FTP server sends a port number to the client,
>telling it what port the client should communicate on (it's usually a
>really high port > 1024). Each time a FTP server must communicate via
>passive mode, a different port is randomly chosen as to lower the
>possibility of sniffed data.
>
>The FTP client controls whether an active/passive connection is used.
>However, certain FTP clients don't give you the option to use either or
>(ie: Win95 DOS ftp).
>
>-Rob
>
> > Hey Julian,
> >
> > Yes, there's something about that. Passive ftp vs active. Active ftp will
> > jump around with it use of ports (I don't know if it's the data,
> control, or
> > both that actually jump).
> > I'm not sure if you can tell the server whether or not to use passive,
> but I
> > know you can tell the client. Sometimes people forget that IE can be
> used as
> > an ftp client, so don't forget to set the passive ftp check box in the IE
> > tools/options area.
> >
> > Hopefully you won't need a whole book on ftp. It's a lot less complex than
> > something like email or DNS!!
> >
> > Nice to see you around again Julian!
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Julian Opificius
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:48 PM
> > To: redha...@redhat.com
> > Subject: RE: NAT and FTP
> >
> >
> > Cheers Robert. Is it always port 20? Somehow I thought that a different
> > port was opened up for every simultaneous connection.
> >
> > I sense the imminent need to purchase another O'Reilly book ... ;-)
> >
> > julian.
> >
> >
> > At 09:35 PM 1/16/02, you wrote:
> > >One port's for control and one's for data:
> > >
> > >make sure you check this out: "cat /etc/services | grep ftp"
> > >
> > >Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
> > >[mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Julian Opificius
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:12 PM
> > >To: redha...@redhat.com
> > >Subject: Re: NAT and FTP
> > >
> > >
> > >Why's that?
> > >
> > >j.
> > >===================
> > >At 08:58 PM 1/16/02, you wrote:
> > > >You might want to open up port 20, as well.
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Julian Opificius wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using NAT on my Cisco 678 DSL modem, to connect my real IP
> into my
> > > > > private LAN.
> > > > > I want to run an FTP server on my Linux box, accessible from the
> > outside
> > > > > world. I know I have to open up port 21, 'cos it's the FTP control
> > port,
> > > > > but do I have to open up any other ports in order to allow data
> > >transfers?
> > > > >
> > > > > julian.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Julian Opificius. ICQ 3268206.
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Redhat-list mailing list
> > > > > Redha...@redhat.com
> > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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