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D|j

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:06:37 AM4/5/01
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Thomas Jefferson was born to Peter & Jane Randolph-Jefferson
at the Shadwell Estate (built in 1737 & named after a parish
in London where Jane Randolph was born) on a tobacco & wheat
plantation a short distance east of Monticello in the county
of Albermarle Virginia Commonwealth, on the sabbath 13 April
1743 (Gregorian), at about 1:54 AM; USGS ~ 78W23:45 38N00:47;
though the plantation house was burned to the ground in 1770,
a 215-acre tract on the south side of US 250 marks this site:

LMT: 01.54:00 13-Apr-1743
UTC: 07:07:35 13-Apr-1743
TDT-UT: +12.3 sec
Julian Day: 2357779.79693
Sidereal Time: 15h 18m 08s
Metonic calendar: 19 Nisanu 5503
Islamic calendar: yawm as-sabt
18 Safar 1156 (1948439.17=1AH)
Mayan Long count: 12.6.6.6.17
(baktun.katun.tun.uinal.kin)
Haab: 10 Pax
Tzolkin: 2 Caban

Mercury Pisces rules Sixth House of the horoscope second of
zodiac, Venus Aries third rules Seventh House dragon's head
sun yet third of zodiac, Saturn retrograde Leo rules in the
Eleventh House by Jupiter for tail of Draco Mars as seventh
of zodiac, Moon exalted Scorpius Second House fells tail of
the dragon ten of zodiac, Uranus on the Capricorn Ascendant
souljourn of zodiac twelve Fourth House, fortune for Taurus
of zodiac four Eighth of horoscope, spirit eighth of zodiac
horoscope Twelve Virgo to be, Neptune exalting Gemini Ninth
of zodiac five, Pluto retrograde Libra First nine of zodiac,
Venus, Uranus, Pluto closing the distance with Mars nearest:

Saturday April 13, 1743 1:54 AM LMT 078W23:45 38N00:47
Body Z_Placement Latitude r Hs RUL. Velocity
9th Cusp : 29Vir47'59" __________ 01 | __________
Zubenesham: 24Lib35'55" + 8:31'33" 01 | beLib
Pluto : 24Lib36'59" +15:42'05" - 01 [-] -0.0250883
Midheaven : 00Sco37'26" __________ 02 | __________
Moon : 19Sco34'50" - 1:57'16" d 02 [e] +11.849779
Lilith : 26Sco13'12" - 2:21'07" R 02 [F] +0.1110287
Uranus : 05Cap44'00" - 0:30'32" - 04 [-] +0.0154814
Altair : 06Cap57'20" +29:18'32" 04 | alAql
Ascendant : 09Cap24'39" __________ 04 | __________
East Point: 25Cap44'19" __________ e 05 [-] __________
*Mercury : 05Pis24'44" - 2:33'53" F 06 [R] +1.3052937
3rd Cusp : 29Pis47'59" __________ 07 | __________
Sun : 01Ari42'22" - 0:00'00" e 07 [d] +0.9775935
Andromeda : 02Ari57'16" +33:23'01" 07 | M31
Venus : 22Ari37'04" - 0:01'11" F 07 [R] +1.2257228
True Node : 27Ari45'49" + 0:00'00" - 07 [-] +0.0265776
Neptune : 18Gem14'07" - 0:49'36" d 09 [e] +0.0130078
Antemidhea: 00Tau37'26" __________ 08 | __________
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:29'10" 08 | alTau
Fortune : 21Tau32'10" __________ - 08 [-] __________
Alnilam : 28Tau40'41" -24:32'30" 08 | epOri
5th Cusp : 29Tau03'27" __________ 09 | __________
Alnitak : 29Tau53'45" -25:19'43" 09 | zeOri
Sirius : 19Gem20'48" -39:33'04" 09 | alCMa
Descendant: 09Can24'39" __________ 10 | __________
Mars : 27Can30'50" + 2:40'03" d 11 [-] +0.1655386
Saturn : 07Leo52'43" + 1:48'52" F 11 [R] -0.0305774
Vertex : 10Leo26'55" __________ - 11 [-] __________
Thuban : 12Leo37'08" +66:21'29" 11 | alDra
Jupiter : 13Leo32'56" + 1:22'33" - 11 [-] -0.0542742
8th Cusp : 27Leo15'54" __________ 12 | __________
Arcturus : 29Vir27'40" +30:54'50" 12 | alBoo

Distance(AU)
Earth: 00.0000000 (~)
Sun: 01.0038994 (-)
Moon: 00.0027030 (-)
Mercury: 00.9907195 (-)
Venus: 01.5627232 (+)
Mars: 00.9497825 (-)
Jupiter: 04.7010980 (-)
Saturn: 08.6697013 (-)
Uranus: 19.7539074 (+)
Neptune: 30.1567552 (-)
Pluto: 28.7700348 (+)
Node: 00.0024382 (+)
Lilith: 00.0027106 (~)

Major Aspects
1: Sun (Ari) Tri (Can) Mars - orb: s4:11' - power: 5.83
2: Mercury (Pis) Sex (Cap) Uranus - orb: a0:19' - power: 5.66
3: Venus (Ari) Opp [Lib] Pluto - orb: a1:59' - power: 4.87
4: Sun (Ari) Squ (Cap) Uranus - orb: a4:01' - power: 4.65
5: Mars (Can) Squ (Ari) Node - orb: a0:14' - power: 4.17
6: Mars (Can) Tri (Sco) Lilith - orb: s1:17' - power: 3.72
7: Jupiter [Leo] Con [Leo] Saturn - orb: a5:40' - power: 3.06
8: Moon (Sco) Opp (Tau) Fortune - orb: s1:57' - power: 2.65
9: Mars (Can) Squ [Lib] Pluto - orb: s2:53' - power: 2.59
10: Venus (Ari) Sex (Gem) Neptune - orb: s4:22' - power: 1.87
11: Sun (Ari) Tri [Leo] Saturn - orb: a6:10' - power: 1.69
12: Venus (Ari) Squ (Can) Mars - orb: a4:53' - power: 1.59
13: Jupiter [Leo] Sex (Gem) Neptune - orb: s4:41' - power: 1.44
14: Moon (Sco) Squ [Leo] Jupiter - orb: s6:01' - power: 1.35
15: Pluto [Lib] Con (Lib) Zubenesha- orb: a0:01' - power: -.--
16: 9th Cus (Vir) Con (Vir) Arcturus - orb: s0:20' - power: -.--
17: 5th Cus (Tau) Con (Tau) Alnilam - orb: s0:22' - power: -.--
--adjudicated by Daniel Joseph Min this 5th of April day 2001 AD


Insane Ranter

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:10:45 AM4/5/01
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Can you do me.. Feb. 11, 1976?


Odysseus

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Apr 5, 2001, 3:18:26 AM4/5/01
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Insane Ranter wrote:
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> Can you do me.. Feb. 11, 1976?

He can plug the numbers into his charting program and spam Usenet with
the results, if that's what you mean.

It would probably be best for all concerned, however, if we tried to
minimize the input in the hope that the output will be reduced accordingly.

--Odysseus

NetHere

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Apr 5, 2001, 3:19:45 PM4/5/01
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Still using the wrong calculations I see. You really need to go back to the
basics and find out what you are doing wrong before posting any more
incorrect data on the various people that you are interested in.
I repeat, you are using the wrong calculating method and it is giving you
incorrect results. Now go fix the problems and stop bothering us with
errors!


Bill Bonde

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Apr 5, 2001, 9:30:29 PM4/5/01
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How can you use the wrong calculating method for something that is
absurd?

David

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Apr 6, 2001, 2:30:21 AM4/6/01
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so, in a nut shell, what does all this mean for masonry? The figures that
were givin were incorrect, if you go back to about the third line, you will
relize that you have no clue what your saying, but had a hell of a laugh out
of it!!

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Jim Scotti

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Apr 6, 2001, 12:50:29 PM4/6/01
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In sci.astro Bill Bonde <std...@mail.com> wrote:

Don't you mean "How can you NOT use the wrong calculating method...."?

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jsc...@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/

Bill Bonde

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Apr 7, 2001, 10:37:46 PM4/7/01
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Jim Scotti wrote:
>
> In sci.astro Bill Bonde <std...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> : NetHere wrote:
> :>
> :> Still using the wrong calculations I see. You really need to go back to the
> :> basics and find out what you are doing wrong before posting any more
> :> incorrect data on the various people that you are interested in.
> :> I repeat, you are using the wrong calculating method and it is giving you
> :> incorrect results. Now go fix the problems and stop bothering us with
> :> errors!
> :>
> : How can you use the wrong calculating method for something that is
> : absurd?
>
> Don't you mean "How can you NOT use the wrong calculating method...."?
>

Both seem to work to me. If something is absurd, the calculating method
is irrelevant. Well, I guess the goal could be to go for maximum
obfuscation.

David Simpson

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Apr 8, 2001, 2:28:17 AM4/8/01
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:30:21 -0700, "David" <prog...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>so, in a nut shell, what does all this mean for masonry? The figures that
>were givin were incorrect, if you go back to about the third line, you will
>relize that you have no clue what your saying, but had a hell of a laugh out
>of it!!

Why did you have to repost all of it? Snip the rubbish please.

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Bill Foley

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Apr 8, 2001, 8:16:35 PM4/8/01
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Actually, there would be no correct calculating method for an exploded
pseudoscience in any case.
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