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Lula

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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I have an AOL account I don't post from and yet I get lots more junk
mail on that account than this earthlink account I post from regularly.
---
Lula from Wooly Dreams Design
http://home.earthlink.net/~woolydream/


SugarBoben wrote:
>

> I wondered if anyone else who's been posting to this NG has been getting this
> lately?
>
> Marci
> Sugar...@nospam.aol.com
> "Anything less than 2 karats is a 'friendship' ring."
> Remove "nospam." from address for email.

Ken Davis

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That's what you get for visiting those "hot" sites!! (s)

Ken Davis

P.S. No, you are not alone.

SugarBoben wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I just had a quick question - are any of the rest of you getting spammed to
> death recently? In the past week, I've had no less than 10 spam messages with
> subjects such as:
>
> "Hot Young Men 18-23 Are Waiting for you NOW!"
> "Earn Money Fast!"
> "Escort Service...."
>
> ad naseum.... : P

Nan

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SugarBoben wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I just had a quick question - are any of the rest of you getting spammed to
> death recently? In the past week, I've had no less than 10 spam messages with
> subjects such as:
>
> "Hot Young Men 18-23 Are Waiting for you NOW!"
> "Earn Money Fast!"
> "Escort Service...."
>
> ad naseum.... : P
>
> I wondered if anyone else who's been posting to this NG has been getting this
> lately?
>
> Marci
> Sugar...@nospam.aol.com
> "Anything less than 2 karats is a 'friendship' ring."
> Remove "nospam." from address for email.

Haven't been getting any more than usual, Marci. I don't keep track of
how many but there are a few every day; I just trash 'em unopened.

Nan
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DH, Robertson Davies, ice cream
*married
**linen

sha...@epix.net

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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Lula wrote:
>
> I have an AOL account I don't post from and yet I get lots more junk
> mail on that account than this earthlink account I post from regularly.
> ---
> Lula from Wooly Dreams Design
> http://home.earthlink.net/~woolydream/
>
> SugarBoben wrote:
> >
>
> > I wondered if anyone else who's been posting to this NG has been getting this
> > lately?

Only on my AOL account. On the epix account, which is the one I use all
the time (I rarely post or e mail anyting on AOL) I may get a piece of
spam every week. Some weeks nothing.

I mainly have AOL to talk to friends and step kids and for talking to
some business associates from time to time.

I get about 10 to 15 pieces of junk a day on AOL.

Sharon G

Cathy Lowrey

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I don't have an anti-spam return address, and I post once in a while to both
rctn and rctq, but I haven't been getting any spam. (I hope this is not a
case of 'famous last words'). Guess I've just been lucky . . .wish my luck
would shift over to the lotteries, though.


Cathy in Vancouver
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Harrison Ford/Anne McCaffrey/anything chocolate


ahe...@dorsai.org

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Lula (and Marci) - I have the same thing happen. I have an AOL
account strictly for back-up and I get nothing but junk mail there.
And I don't even post from it and I've deleted my member's profile.
Hmm. I hardly ever get junk mail here on dorsai (so far knock on
wood)

Alison

>I have an AOL account I don't post from and yet I get lots more junk
>mail on that account than this earthlink account I post from regularly.
>---
>Lula from Wooly Dreams Design
>http://home.earthlink.net/~woolydream/
>
>
>SugarBoben wrote:
>>
>
>> I wondered if anyone else who's been posting to this NG has been getting this
>> lately?
>>

Barb Bandel

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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I am really getting fed up with all the spam mail. Some weeks there
is more than others, but it is very annoying. I don't respond to it -
all of it goes to trash. A lot of it is probably porno - that which
isn't one of those "get rich quick schemes" or diet wonders. They
are about as obnoxious as telemarketers and I have become downright
ugly to most of them. It gives me great satisfaction!!! (big grin)

Happy stitching everyone!

Barb
Barb Bandel Raleigh NC
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Deborah Meinhart

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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PK wrote:
<snip>
> wasting your time dealing with it. Of course, there are some ISP (Netcom
> comes to mind!) which do not want any regulation of spam. Somehow they have
> it mixed up with freedom of speech. HA! It's _advertising_. It's not
<snip>

I also am very vigilant against spammers and really enjoy seeing them
cancelled. I always forward the spams to their ISP. Netcom does indeed
have policies against abuse, although I don't know how strict they are.
ab...@netcom.com is the address to send complaints to. The following is
taken from the auto-response you get back from that address.

Deb

Netcom response:

Thank you for writing to NETCOM's abuse department with your concern.
We
appreciate your report and make every effort to follow-up on all reports
of abusive activity. NETCOM will require the following information to
validate and act upon your report.

IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
----------------------

Please include the type of report in the SUBJECT of the message (IRC,
Usenet,
email). For example, to report an email abuse:

To: ab...@netcom.com
Subject: Email

In addition, include the full headers of all e-mail or Usenet messages
relevant to your report. Often, forwarding a message through a
newsreader strips the article of headers and makes it difficult for us
to identify the original post.
<snip rest of response>

Deborah Meinhart

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Ooh, and to follow up on my own post...

I got a spam with the subject: ADVERTISEMENT: MEN IMPROVE YOUR
PERFORMANCE
a couple of weeks ago and Netcom terminated the user's account due to my
complaint. In their response to me they included a link to their
Acceptable Use Guidelines:

http://www.netcom.com/netcom/aug.html

HTH,
Deb

Kelly Rowe

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Hi all,

I just found the niftiest little anti-spammer sig file on another
newsgroup. If it works, it'll be an awfully satisfying "gotcha" for the
little weasels.

Kelly

And for you automated email spammers out there,
here's the email addresses of the current board of
the Federal Communications Commission:

Chairman Reed Hundt: rhu...@fcc.gov
Commissioner James Quello: jqu...@fcc.gov
Commissioner Susan Ness: sn...@fcc.gov
Commissioner Rachelle Chong: rch...@fcc.gov

Teri Rasmussen George

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Deborah Meinhart wrote:
> PK wrote:
<snip>
> > wasting your time dealing with it. Of course, there are some ISP
> >(Netcom comes to mind!) which do not want any regulation of spam.
> >Somehow they have it mixed up with freedom of speech.

Hmmmmm. I was with Netcom for awhile and they did have policies about
netabuse. Not only that, but I've complained to Netcom about spammers
-- to the ab...@netcom.com address -- and found that the spammers almost
immediately disappear.

Maybe there's a difference between how Netcom feels about outside
control versus self-policing.

Teri

Ali866

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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In article <346928...@epix.net>, sha...@epix.net writes:

>I get about 10 to 15 pieces of junk a day on AOL.
>
>Sharon G

Not only do *I* get spammed to death on AOL (more than 20 a day), my
youngest daughter (12) has been getting nasty spam. She doesn't post to any
of the NG, she rarely participates in the chat rooms...mostly, she just
e-mails pen-pals...so where did they pick up her address? The only thing I
can think of is, I posted it here for Robyn. Any answers to this one??

Ali ;-)

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That Funky Chick

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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On 12 Nov 1997 05:16:48 GMT, "PK" <n...@tellin.com> wrote:

>sorry for the tirade. this topic is one of my more sensitive spots.

You're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned...I started hanging out
on the news.admin.net-abuse.* groups because I was sick of spam and wanted to
find out how to combat it. I've got both Sendmail and Procmail set up for
various spam-sifting methods...they bounce 8-10 messages per week (oddly
enough the amount went down after Sendmail started rejecting them; it used to
be over 20).

I'm not one of the "just-delete-it" folks--I want someone to KNOW that their
crap is unwelcome here. At once point I thought one of those e-mail pager
systems would be neat, but can you imagine the cost you'd wind up with if the
pager address got on a spammer list?

-Bertha
ber...@polly.mhn.org

Rubrtrukr

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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>Marci,
>
>Spam content is up for me too. Gonna have to think of my own clever
>little spambuster. I used to get zilch. Last few weeks it has been a
>couple dozen a day.
>
>Brynn

I like the one on a newsgroup I occasionally read wherein the person is
Joh...@clothesFish.net and instructs the reader to "remove clothes to reply."
Always good for a giggle, anyway.

~<|:o) Darla
Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades has
been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good. -- Thomas
Sowell

J. S. Koster

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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That Funky Chick wrote:

> You're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned...I started hanging out
> on the news.admin.net-abuse.* groups because I was sick of spam and wanted to
> find out how to combat it.

snip

>
> I'm not one of the "just-delete-it" folks--I want someone to KNOW that their
> crap is unwelcome here. At once point I thought one of those e-mail pager
> systems would be neat, but can you imagine the cost you'd wind up with if the
> pager address got on a spammer list?
>
> -Bertha
> ber...@polly.mhn.org

I'm with you. I hang out on n.a.n-a.e for that same reason - and I'm
proud to say I got my *first* confirmed spam-kill this week :)

Joan K.
--
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Shel Silverstein/chocolatechocolatechocolate

Homeismich

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Hi,
Believe you are not alone!! And it is started to be a royal pain in the
"you know what"
I have been forwarding them too TOSspam but, I still keep getting these.
Anyone got any ideas on how to stop all this??? I'm willing to try anything.

BJ


AChrist787

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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I received an email from the Director of Customer Support at Bigfoot.com
tonight telling me that they had removed someone using their url as a jump off
spot for spam. It's nice to know that once in a while we actually win one.

Anne
Anne Christopherson

"Old roses are full of instructions on how to live right."

Melinda Coss

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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'scuse me but what, exactly, is a 'royal pain'and how would you
know what one feels like?
Queen

Ellen

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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If you set it up to delete the spam from the server you won't even have to
d/load it. :-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ellen..
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:-D~/L/G-/Wo/D/M/B/b+//R-/S/Kc/E/C/J+/R2
Michael Flatley/Judith McNaught/ice cream
Elliot Lake, Ontario
A Jewel In The Wilderness

bambi wrote in message <01bcef93$1bad3b60>it works great i have mine set up to
put the spam in the deleted box and i
>don't even see it.
>
>bambi


Joarch

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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>

>> I just had a quick question - are any of the rest of you getting spammed to
>> death recently?

>> I wondered if anyone else who's been posting to this NG has been getting
>this
>> lately?
>....
>I have, but I haven't been posting to the newsgroup lately. I noticed
>that
>my spam increased suddenly the day after I bid at EBay for the first
>time. I
>think that it's probably because my email address is available there
>in the bidding history. Grrr. And, of course, your address is visible
>if you sell anything there, too.

I've noticed this too. I posted a bid to E-Bay on Monday and today I've got
Spam on that account which never has been spammed before. E-Bay's fun, but if
this is the result, that's it for me.


DonnaJ

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Irving/anything salty

oriole

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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How do you do this?
--
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Julian Sands/none/peanutbutter chocolate ice cream
To reply remove the #1from my address

NewFolkie

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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> I'm proud to say I got my *first* confirmed spam-kill this week :)

So how do you kill the spammers? Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!

NewFolkie

AChrist787

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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>I'm with you. I hang out on n.a.n-a.e for that same reason - and I'm

>proud to say I got my *first* confirmed spam-kill this week :)
>
>Joan K.
>--

Isn't that a fun feeling? I got one too.

suzanneMI

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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I found this SO funny! It being hunting season around here, this really
was appropriate right now.

Thanks for the laugh, Joan!
suzanne in MI

--
-------->
Lord Melchett: "Lord Blackadder, our foremost cartographers have given
us a map of the area you'll be traversing."
Edmund Blackadder: "But it's blank!"
Lord Melchett: "Yes, they'd like you to fill it in as you go."

J. S. Koster

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NewFolkie wrote:
>
>
> So how do you kill the spammers? Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!
>
> NewFolkie

You start out by hanging out on the news.admin.net-abuse.* news groups
(in my case, I spend the most time on n.a.n-a.email), and learn from the
masters. There's a great bunch of anti-spammers there who will help you
learn to read headers, figure out forged headers (I'm still working on
learning this), point you in the right direction, etc. You will learn
who to complain to (and who NOT to), that responding to remove lists
will NOT get you removed, but will most likely confirm that your address
is a valid one (which means even more spam)....you get the picture. Try
this website:

http://www.pdi.net:81/~eristic/junkmail/index.html

Browse through the top, and scroll down to the bottom, where it has
links to some excellent articles and spam-tracking lessons by Bill
Mattocks.

Joan K. - still basking in the glow of satisfaction her first kill :) -
Fried Spam! (especially proud because it was an particularly nasty
racist spam - ptui!)

Melinda Coss

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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Where????
Queen

AChrist787

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Nov 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/15/97
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>Where????
>Queen

>> "Hot Young Men 18-23 Are Waiting for you NOW!"
>

Your Majesty...I don't know aobut you, but when I was in the 18-23 year old age
range (light years ago LOL) I found men that age to be vapid, self-centered
and miserable to be around with a few exceptions. Can you imagine how they
are now that we have reached our prime?

Nan

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Nov 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/15/97
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AChrist787 wrote:

I recall having been told that (no matter how vapid, self-centered or miserable
as companions) young men have their good points. <*cough*>

Nan
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Kc/E/C+/J/

Suzy Beth

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Nov 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/15/97
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> >Where????
> >Queen
>
> >> "Hot Young Men 18-23 Are Waiting for you NOW!"
> >
>
> Your Majesty...I don't know aobut you, but when I was in the 18-23 year
old age
> range (light years ago LOL) I found men that age to be vapid,
self-centered

> Anne
>


Yes, very true. But they are also extremely pliable at this age, and it is
easiest to catch one and set up it's training when they're at this stage
in their lives. Important, especially since the training often stretches
out for years.

SB

RM BASS

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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We have been receiving several unwanted messages every day since I first
started reading RCTN. BUT, as of 3 days ago, not too long after this thread
began, the count has gone down to 0 or 1 a day. I'm certainly not
complaining, it just seems odd. Perhaps the letters some of you have sent to
stop this has done some good for all of us..... or is this just too good to be
true? The ones I really get mad about are the ones that say this is in
response to your post, and I don't know it's not until I take the time to
check it out! Happy Stitching, Elaine

Melinda Coss

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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> Your Majesty...I don't know aobut you, but when I was in the 18-23 year
> old age
> range (light years ago LOL) I found men that age to be vapid,
> self-centered
> and miserable
Agreed, but then I was pretty vapid etc., myself :) These young men do
have some enduring qualities, bless their little hearts :)
Queen

Chris & Pam Pemberton

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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AChrist787 wrote:

> Your Majesty...I don't know aobut you, but when I was in the 18-23 year old age
> range (light years ago LOL) I found men that age to be vapid, self-centered

> and miserable to be around with a few exceptions. Can you imagine how they
> are now that we have reached our prime?

Who said anything about wanting them for their brains? <LOL>

Pam P.

KPaules531

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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In article <19971115164...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
achri...@aol.com (AChrist787) writes:

>>Where????
>>Queen
>
>>> "Hot Young Men 18-23 Are Waiting for you NOW!"
>>
>

>Your Majesty...I don't know aobut you, but when I was in the 18-23 year old
>age
> range (light years ago LOL) I found men that age to be vapid, self-centered
> and miserable to be around with a few exceptions. Can you imagine how they
> are now that we have reached our prime?

Anne -

If they had any sense at all, they'd be thankful to have found such
wonderful passionate women!


JoAnn
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AChrist787

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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>Anne -
>
>If they had any sense at all, they'd be thankful to have found such
>wonderful passionate women!
>
>
>JoAnn

JoAnn, You're right, of course, but what on earth would you talk to one of them
about? <gggg>

Anne

Ali866

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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In article <19971117102...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
achri...@aol.com (AChrist787) writes:

>JoAnn, You're right, of course, but what on earth would you talk to one of
>them
> about? <gggg>
>
>Anne
>Anne Christopherson
>
>

Talk??? You would talk to them??? <boggle>

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