What REAL extortion and threats LOOK like
Anonymous
doing this to punish Brad (or someone his thinks is Brad) for posting to Usenet.
>
>I shall follow the quote of that post by a a copy of all the three emails
which engage in terroristic threats.
>
>The post announcing he is putting the libelous site back up:
>
>
> From:
> Just Taylor <tay...@lart.com>
> Newsgroups:
> sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> Subject:
> Re: (BRAD) Re: I think I've made my point
> Date:
> Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:11:51 -0700
> Organization:
> "To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
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>On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:02:14 +0200, Lartvocate <c_advo...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Just Taylor <tay...@lart.com> wrote
>>>On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:40:13 +0200 (CEST), Brad Jesness
>>><********@postoffice.worldnet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think I'll take a week off and see if "hackers" and "'Net Cops" can
>>>>find enough work fighting terrorists and pervs. But since they are
>>>>connected with terroristic activities and some ARE pervs, I guess they will
>>>>really miss me.
>>>
>>>Well it appeared as if Brad Jesness was going to behave Monday afternoon so
>>>I held off on opening the new Brad FAQ at Lart.Com. However today it
>>>appears he is off on his typical hysterical-bitch fits again so if I see one
>>>post from him today the Brad FAQ goes up.
>>>
>>>If Brad actually "takes a week off" then the Brad FAQ will remain off-line
>>>for another week. His choice as usual.
>>
>>
>>Youll notice how I didn't bug you about it, although I wish that it was on
>>the web.
>
>Well its back up and will remain up permanently this time. Brad can freak
>out all he wants. I won't take it down, period.
>
>
>--
>Taylor
>
>
>
>
>He DID put the slanderous web page up:
>When Brad wrote him as a web site administrator (administrator of
>lart.com) he immediately harassed Brad in email and proceeded to
>post my previously unknown email address all over the nasty Internet
>newsgroups.
>
lart.com is simply an abuse domain. It exists only to
>provide an "FAQ" for the abuse newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks
>(see www.lart.com/auk) and to
>put up defamatory/slanderlous/libelous abusive web pages against
>people.
>
>
>Evidence for all the allegations I have just made are below (or at
>least for the first 2 allegations I made)
>
>
>Evidence of use of abusive page for extortion to censor Brad
>from posting to Internet newsgroups:
>
>
>From: Just Taylor <tay...@lart.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
>Subject: Re: Has the Brad FAQ on Lart.com been hacked???
>Organization: "To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
>Message-ID: <sgbqptc84kg96pcb8...@4ax.com>
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>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:21:02 GMT
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>
>On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 03:16:11 GMT, "Iceman" <c0l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>If you did a "view source" this is what is said,
>><META content="This page will remain up as long
>>as Brad Jesness remains out of sight." name=Author>
>
>That's correct. No hack took place. Brad is not that smart. As long as
>Brad is MIA, the page will remain as is. The minute Brad shows up and
>freaks out, the Brad FAQ goes back up.
>
>The Advocate is not a unfair man. If Brad can live up to his agreement so
>can The Advocate. Brad breaks his word, the page is up with tons of new
>info loaded for maximum embarrassment.
>
>
>--
>Taylor NetScum (RIP 10/16/97)
>****************************************************
>I AM SO SMART! I AM SO SMART!
>s-m-r-t...I MEAN s-m-A-r-t! - Homer Simpson, 1994
>****************************************************
>"To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Just Taylor <tay...@lart.com>
> Newsgroups:
> sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> Subject:
> (BRAD) Re: I think I've made my point
> Date:
> Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:07:48 -0700
> Organization:
> "To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
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>
>
>On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:40:13 +0200 (CEST), Brad Jesness
><********@postoffice.worldnet.net> wrote:
>
>>I think I'll take a week off and see if "hackers" and "'Net Cops" can
>>find enough work fighting terrorists and pervs. But since they are
>>connected with terroristic activities and some ARE pervs, I guess they will
>>really miss me.
>
>Well it appeared as if Brad Jesness was going to behave Monday afternoon so
>I held off on opening the new Brad FAQ at Lart.Com. However today it
>appears he is off on his typical hysterical-bitch fits again so if I see one
>post from him today the Brad FAQ goes up.
>
>If Brad actually "takes a week off" then the Brad FAQ will remain off-line
>for another week. His choice as usual.
>
>
>--
>Taylor
>
>(end quoted posts of extortion)
Email abuse of me after
I contacted him as a domain admin.
>
This has to do with the way this
>domain administrator revealed my email address publicly to abusive people,
>IN ADDITION to emailing me in a harassing manner, just after I wrote to
>him to complain about the libelous and personal and abusive web site of his,
>http://www.lart.com/brad (which is not up now, but threatens to be up again
>soon .
>
"Taylor" Jimenez did apparently post my email address using
>x-no-archive
>and also he posted it using aliases (that looked like forgeries from me).
>
>STILL, I am able to provide some record of the postings he did to solicit
>abuse on me at my previously unknown email address by quoting posts that
>quote his "forgeries" of me giving out my address (see below my signature)
>
>The forgeries by your customer appear quoted in the following posts:
>
>From: Turd...@cotse.com (Turd Fredericks)
>Newsgroups: alt.2600
>Subject: Re: BadAss Hacker Needed! Hot Monkey for Sex Needed!
>Organization: The Brad FAQ at: http://www.lart.com/brad/
>Reply-To: Turd...@cotse.com
>Message-ID: <3b9ad449...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com>
>References: <gkmapt0vo3o7jul29...@4ax.com>
><3b995d5a...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com>
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>
>
>On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:00:52 GMT, PC Chick
><pc_chickie@*spaminator*yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:00:56 GMT, Turd...@cotse.com (Turd Fredericks)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:50:09 -0700, B. Jesness
>>><monkeyb...@jesness.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm looking for a cool cat hacker that can take care of some trouble
>makers.
>>>>I'll pay money too! E-mail me at alts...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net and
>>>>I'll give you all the details.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I'm looking for a couple of hot monkeys to have sex with. If you
>>>>have a monkey or a very hairy woman e-mail me at the above address.
>>>>
>>>>You know what? Forget about the hacking, just find me a money to have sex
>>>>with. I'll pay up to $1,000 for a monkey. I'll double it if the monkey is
>>>>experienced and last longer than the 30 seconds I can.
>>>>
>>>>B. Jesness
>>>
>>>Stick with the pigs. A monkey could quickly outsmart you, and maybe
>>>even turn the tables making you the "catcher".
>>
>>But, to be the "pitcher", he'd need balls, right? Brad is well known to
>>be dickless, weren't those other items in doubt as well?
>>
>>bitchlet
>
>You're right. What was I thinking?
>
>Whilst surfing the web, I found a picture of Brad's penis, perhaps it
>should be included in the lart FAQ?
>
> http://www.atlasperovic.com/contents/3.htm
>_____________________________________________
>The treasure can't be found by men who search
>Whose gods are dead and whose queens are in the church.
>
>-Bob Dylan
>
>
>-------------
>
>
>An email threat from Taylor (YOUR www.lart.com):
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:06:34 -0700
>To: alts...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
>From: Taylor <tay...@lart.com>
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>at 08:50 AM 10/22/2001, Nomen Nescio had this to say,
>
>>I will agree, for my part, not to bring up the PAST as long as others do
>>not. Otherwise it is one for one. This is the way it has been and will
>>be. Period. This is absolute
>
>I gave you your only option, Brad. Get lost or the page goes up at later
>today. You have nothing to bargain with. Nothing to offer. I know who
>I'm dealing with. I know everything there is to know about you.
>
>>If you do ever put up the libelous web page, you will regret it in more
>>than one way. How would you like it if someone proposed that sppFAQ go
>>out to all relevant newsgroups on a steady schedule? This is the
>>kind of extortion you are engaging in, and I can prove it with your
>>providers. I can show extortion, harassing email, plus your past gleeful
>>misuse of Brad's email address -- gross misconduct for any responsible
>>domain head. No one will let you administrate ANY
>>domain if all this is brought up.
>
>Brad it is you that is harassing people via e-mail. It is you who keeps
>this going. I'm only responding. If you think you have a case have your
>lawyer contact me. I'll pass my lawyers information on to him and we'll
>see who will finish on top.
>
>>You are also associated with terroristic threatening email. So I would
>>try from now on to be kind to others and maybe you will not end up in
>>jail (Do know that all necessary providers have been contacted to link
>>the terrorist email to the emailer, though, since logs do not last.)
>
>My giving you an out Brad is not threatening or terroristic. However your
>actions are. This e-mail alone is threatening. You are making a big
>mistake thinking that this e-mail of yours is not traceable back to you,
>Brad. I haven't focused on you as for the most part you're a dink. A
>pesky fly that isn't much of a bother but easily squashed when the time comes.
>
>>We all know what you want. You will get it. You will get what you want
>>if you forget the past.
>
>So you will again be disappearing? If so then the Brad FAQ will remain
>off-line. Like I said though, once it goes up it won't come down for at
>least 30 days.
>
>>But, other than that. I
>>own you. Get lost. I never want to see you again, or I will give you
>>my full attention (the above matter and whatever).
>
>You own nothing, Brad. I know that because I know all there is to know
>about you. Your lame attempts at intimidation are very amusing.
>
>>Fuck off asshole. I have you in several ways. You better forget Brad and
>>I exist.
>
>Oh, like that is going to help you out, Brad. You're about as scary as a
>toy poodle.
>
>Taylor
>
>
>----
>Other earlier (but associated anon threats):
>
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>To: alts...@att.net
>Subject: Do you really want to do this???
>Message-ID: <cfc6832c9fd5e569...@mix.winterorbit.com>
>
>Brad,
>
>See you are getting braver, and posting hate stuff again.
>
>Do you really want to do this??
>
>Remember, I own you!
>
>
>
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>Subject: gloves
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>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:33:56 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Are you using gloves and a mask to check your mail?
>
>I thought not.
>
>Might be wise in todays environment.
>
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>To: alts...@att.net
>Subject: Move?
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>
>Thought you were going to move out of ur wifes house?
>
>
>(end quoted posts and earlier notes)
>
>
Iceman
<nob...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:
>mega snip<
Brad, when you post stuff like this in an attempt to make things look
like extortion or whatever, do you realize just how bad it makes you
look?
What I see, as do most others, is that you failed to live up to your
part of the agreement with Taylor.
I saw where he chose to leave the web site basically blank, and was
going to do so as long as you did not kook out. That was pretty
clearly stated.
When you kooked out you were warned. You chose to exercise your
options and kook out so the site went back up. DUH!
You had a chance to redeem yourself, you blew it. You did not like the
site, you say, but you really missed seeing yourself up in the bright
lights.
Do you really think you are misunderstood by the entire world?
You get kicked off every ISP you have ever been on, lose your web
sites, kicked off lists, and yet you persist. Do you really think you
are the only bright bulb on this planet?
Over half of you lifetime you have wasted being a looser. 50+ years
and what have you to show for it? Nothing.
You have no career. (other than being a WK troll)
You have no money of your own.
You wasted all your education, and the time invested.
You are a house husband.
The cats don't like you.
The dogs in your neighborhood think you are a walking fire hydrant.
Your wife, in name only.
You lack self respect, and all that goes with it.
You are shunned by all. (except pedo's)
You attack little kids.
You ignored your Dad's advice.
etc. etc.
Tell me, is there one good thing you can say about yourself?
Dan Rogers
"Iceman" <c0l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:q0b57u8uforh3i961...@4ax.com...
I'll say it for him: "Yes. Kewpie dolls LIKE to set next too me IN A
CIRCLE."
See brad? I'll support you.
HARFUL!
Dan
Master of Card XII
Order of the detrevnI Buckyball
Certified Nethoodlum