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Individuation

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On 26 Apr 1997, Melinda wrote:

> hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).
> i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is the
> rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.
> i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.
> bye, melinda
>

What's wrong with this phrase "I'm goth...I do not listen to the music"?
Hon, if you've watched the craft one too many times and decided that goth
was the new in thing...or saw that hot topic store and begged mom for a
vampire dress....go away. The music is a pretty important part of the
scene...it STARTED the scene. I don't think anyone here gives a shit
what you look like....if they do, fuck them....but if you have no clue
why you're gothic....why you don't listen to the music....go away.

besides...all this proves is that you have bad taste.

Eileen

Melinda

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The Lighthouse Keeper

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*The Lighthouse Keeper stands... pointing at Melinda...*

A Goblin baby!

We've need of a few of those.

Welcome.

Fear & Bullets,
The Lighthouse Keeper

Panic Girl

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On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Individuation wrote:

> What's wrong with this phrase "I'm goth...I do not listen to the music"?

Okay, here's the big "yeah, but..."
I think that we're pretty much agreed that goth also
has something to do with one's additude toward life.
I had that additude before I knew what (for example)
Bahaus was.
However, I *do* think it's pretty foolish to post that
one is pretty much clueless, as she did.
'Course I've done it... (Think SOM bashing...)
<blushes>

> Hon, if you've watched the craft one too many times and decided that goth
> was the new in thing...or saw that hot topic store and begged mom for a
> vampire dress....go away. The music is a pretty important part of the
> scene...it STARTED the scene. I don't think anyone here gives a shit
> what you look like....if they do, fuck them....but if you have no clue
> why you're gothic....why you don't listen to the music....go away.
>

Agreed. Playing dress-up for fashion sake only
is not goth. However, playing dress-up can be fun...

> besides...all this proves is that you have bad taste.
>

But, in defense of the Pumpkins, have you heard their new
track on the Lost Highway soundtrack? Yummy stuff.
If they keep making music like that... I may just buy
an album.
PANIC, saw said band in concert... Lotsa fun!

~~~~~
Superman was goth
Because he had a cape

Dawn DeGezelle

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To all of you stupid little brats who think you are so cool, who gives
a crap about what music started what & why you wear the clothes that you
do. ( they look like *#@$ any way!) I wish you would all just grow up
and see that you don't look cool, or hip or what ever you want to call
it. You don't have a clue how to answer the question givin to you
because you don't know the answer. So is that how it works? If you don't
have a clue, you just put the person down and they will never know how
dumb you really are!
As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

Overlord of Darkness

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Melinda (rve...@smart.net.au) wrote:
: hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).

: i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is the


: rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.
: i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.
: bye, melinda

hmmmm...
Well, here's my suggestion: find some "goth" music (I would suggest
something by The Sisters of Mercy <tho I wouldn't start with "Vision
Thing" if I were you>..of course, I, being an SOM fan, am a bit biased
though) and listen to it.

You just might find that you *do* actually like the music...

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Individuation

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.....they might think we care.
shoo.
Eileen

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Kyper

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Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> uttered the following:

> To all of you stupid little brats who think you are so cool, who gives

2 points.

>a crap about what music started what & why you wear the clothes that you
>do. ( they look like *#@$ any way!) I wish you would all just grow up

-1 point, you wimped out of actually swearing....

>and see that you don't look cool, or hip or what ever you want to call
>it. You don't have a clue how to answer the question givin to you
>because you don't know the answer. So is that how it works? If you don't
>have a clue, you just put the person down and they will never know how
>dumb you really are!

-2 points for not actually insulting us.

> As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

-2 points. Same as above.

Total Troll Score= -3 points.

Oh dear.

- Aidan

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Christabel La Motte

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In <Pine.SOL.3.91.970426...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Individuation <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> The music is a pretty important part of the
> scene...it STARTED the scene. I don't think anyone here gives a shit
> what you look like....if they do, fuck them....but if you have no clue
> why you're gothic....why you don't listen to the music....go away.

Um, Eileen, I can think of a few a.g. regulars who don't really listen
to the music (at least not the more canoncial varieties).
Including yours truly. Shall I go away now? ;)

Xabel, who will give up her Tool CDs when they are pried out of her
cold dead hands...

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Stained

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Dawn DeGezelle wrote:
>
> To all of you stupid little brats who think you are so cool, who gives
> a crap about what music started what & why you wear the clothes that you
> do. ( they look like *#@$ any way!)

Oh, thanks ever so much for using those symbols to save our sensitive
little eyes from seeing the bad, nasty words you really meant to type.

>So is that how it works? If you don't
> have a clue, you just put the person down and they will never know how
> dumb you really are!

Well, now that we have you for comparison purposes, we're all looking
pretty fucking bright, I'd say!

> As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

Ah, but they make a damn fine pie.

Now go away and don't come back until you can play nice.

Sheryl
--
Warning: Cape does not enable wearer to fly.

Christabel La Motte

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In <33627f7d....@news.swbell.net>,
The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net> wrote:

> A Goblin baby!

I'd rather procure a real baby and trade it off for the Goblin King... ;)

Xabel, shameless Labyrinth fetishist

The Mad Scribbler

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Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> wrote:

>You don't have a clue how to answer the question givin to you

This coming from someone posting through WebTV.... (Pot, kettle,
black...)

>As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

Then, my dear, you have not LISTENED to the music. ('specially Mellon
Collie, disk 2 track 10)
alt.gothic.Special-Forces Medic
If you've been trolled, call for a Medic.
Goth code upon request.

David Gerard

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On 26 Apr 1997 13:57:52 GMT, Melinda <rve...@smart.net.au> wrote:

:hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).
:i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is the
:rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.
:i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.

'ello. Do please come by aus.culture.gothic as well.

:bye, melinda


- d.

Austin S Chamberlain

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Dawn DeGezelle (Takh...@webtv.net) wrote:

<some garbage>

Oooh, looky, another WebTV moron. Have any of them actually displayed
a triple-digit IQ yet?

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The Lighthouse Keeper

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On 27 Apr 1997 21:11:39 GMT, "Canticle" <cant...@aratar.mb.ca> wrote:

>Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net>
>
>That was truly pathetic.
>
>If you're going to be insulting, pull your other hand out of your gonorrhea
>infested snatch, lose the stupid fucking symbols, and find a log in name
>that wasn't derived from a tired old AD&D book series.
>
>Fucking troll.
>
>Jeff-boy

I was eating, Jeff.

Warn me next time in the subject line before you do something like
that?

Ugh!

*The Lighthouse Keeper drops his "Hot Pocket" on a plate in
disgust...*

Canticle

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Melinda <rve...@smart.net.au>

: hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).

Fresh meat.

: i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is
the

"Like, I'm punk, but I don't like punk music"

Listen, whelp. Goth may be undefinable to legions of people, but almost
everyone can agree on one point, at that is that music plays some small
roll. I don't care what people listen to, personally, but if you're going
to go on about how 'gawth' you are, at least take the time to pick
something up other than the pap you're listening to now and decide then
whether you like it or not.

: rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.

Points for Tool.

As for the rest, you impress me about as much as an enema.

Jeff-boy

Canticle

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Matthew M Mckeon

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lam...@grendel.net (Christabel La Motte) writes:
> In <33627f7d....@news.swbell.net>,
> The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > A Goblin baby!
>
> I'd rather procure a real baby and trade it off for the Goblin
> King... ;)
>

hee.. didja ever play the Labrynth Drinking Game
in a club?

Every time you see the Goblin King in tights without
a decent codpiece, scream "DAVID BOWIE'S PACKAGE!!!"
and quaff. Guaranteed to chase out mallrats within
5 minutes or your next one's free.

> Xabel, shameless Labyrinth fetishist
>

mmmmm... I'll admit, David Bowie and Sigourney Weaver
got me through puberty. >B)

> --
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D

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Panic Girl wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Individuation wrote:
>
> > What's wrong with this phrase "I'm goth...I do not listen to the music"?
>
> Okay, here's the big "yeah, but..."
> I think that we're pretty much agreed that goth also
> has something to do with one's additude toward life.
> I had that additude before I knew what (for example)
> Bahaus was.
> However, I *do* think it's pretty foolish to post that
> one is pretty much clueless, as she did.
> 'Course I've done it... (Think SOM bashing...)
> <blushes>
>
Perhaps she has just not heard the right music. Listeneing to Rollins
Band is always a big thumbs up in my book. There is a lot of 'Goth'
music that I particularly don't care for.

Melinda, if you are reading, you may try:
Bauhaus (_Burning_from_the_Inside_ is a good start)
Sisters of Mercy (_First_and_Last_and_Always_, my personal favorite)
Joy Division
Front 242
Faith and the Muse
The Shroud (if you can find it, send me a copy ;>)
The Bauhaus and Siousie and the Banshees tribute tapes by Cleopatra
Switchblade Symphony

Perhaps one of the a.g. "Elders" will post a more complete list if we
ask _reeeelly_ nice.

-------------------
Darren, just back from the KC Fetish Ball and feeling Oh-So-Bouncy TM.

Kyper

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D <dno...@idir.net> uttered the following:

>Perhaps one of the a.g. "Elders" will post a more complete list if we
>ask _reeeelly_ nice.

I'm not an elder, but I'll post:

Bauhaus: Burning From The Inside, Press The Eject and Give Me The Tape
Rosetta Stone: Hiding In Waiting
Libitina: A Closer Communion
Various: Gothic Rock 2 - Out of the 80's and into the 90's (Origonal Jungle
version)
Dead Can Dance: Into The Labyrinth
The Damned: Eternally Damned (the very best of)

Individuation

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> > The music is a pretty important part of the
> > scene...it STARTED the scene. I don't think anyone here gives a shit
> > what you look like....if they do, fuck them....but if you have no clue
> > why you're gothic....why you don't listen to the music....go away.
>
> Um, Eileen, I can think of a few a.g. regulars who don't really listen
> to the music (at least not the more canoncial varieties).
> Including yours truly. Shall I go away now? ;)

YES! WAIT! *Eileen runs after Xabel and grabs her ankle* Don't go don't
go don't go ...*sniffle* You're the goddess of the toilet d*ck...what
would we do without you?


>
> Xabel, who will give up her Tool CDs when they are pried out of her
> cold dead hands...

hey now, (hey now now)...I don't listen to 100% gothic music...but I
definately think that they music is important.

Eileen

Feyd-Rautha

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aidan writes:

>Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> uttered the following:

-3 points for getting your login name from DragonLance

>> To all of you stupid little brats who think you are so cool, who gives

>2 points.

>>a crap about what music started what & why you wear the clothes that you

>>do. ( they look like *#@$ any way!) I wish you would all just grow up

>-1 point, you wimped out of actually swearing....

>>and see that you don't look cool, or hip or what ever you want to call
>>it. You don't have a clue how to answer the question givin to you

>>because you don't know the answer. So is that how it works? If you don't


>>have a clue, you just put the person down and they will never know how
>>dumb you really are!

>-2 points for not actually insulting us.

>> As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

>-2 points. Same as above.

>Total Troll Score= -3 points.

amended= -6

>Oh dear.
>- Aidan

yeah, but I couldn't let the DragonLance derived
login slip through, so she loses even more.

-Feyd (a blackguard)

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Dawn DeGezelle wrote:
>
> No shit, you all know how to read books too, and you even remember
> names from them. If you think it hurt me that you know where it came
> from your wroung, because you see you also must have some of the books
> yourself.

This is such a pitiful troll. Not only are the insults worse than
something a 5 year old would say, she can't even spell. If I'm going to
get bashed I would prefer it be by someone literate.
Anyone watch last week's Xena? Gabrielle almost got cremated alive.
VERY goth!

Zoe
--
Goodnight moon, goodnight mush, goodnight lady saying hush

nag...@miavx1.muohio.edu

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No offense, but was the point to impress you?

bruce

ren

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Melinda wrote:

> hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).

> i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band
> is the

> rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.

> i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.

> bye, melinda

O.k. but can we give a fuck? Welcome here, let us edgecate you. >:)

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ren

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> I tole you about web tv. I said they were comming.

ren

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> If they keep making music like that... I may just buy
> an album.
> PANIC, saw said band in concert... Lotsa fun!
>
> ~~~~~
> Superman was goth
> Because he had a cape

I don't mind the Smashing Pumpkins but I don't own any of their stuff.
I think that guy with the bald head looks like a nosferatu thing. He,
he, I played Vampire the Masquerade one time.

The Lighthouse Keeper

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On 27 Apr 1997 21:07:53 GMT, "Canticle" <cant...@aratar.mb.ca> wrote:

>
>
>Melinda <rve...@smart.net.au>
>
>: hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).
>
>Fresh meat.
>
>: i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is
>the
>


>"Like, I'm punk, but I don't like punk music"
>
>Listen, whelp. Goth may be undefinable to legions of people, but almost
>everyone can agree on one point, at that is that music plays some small
>roll. I don't care what people listen to, personally, but if you're going
>to go on about how 'gawth' you are, at least take the time to pick
>something up other than the pap you're listening to now and decide then
>whether you like it or not.

Hey Jeff?

What's "pap"?

Is that a Canadian thing? ;)

>
>: rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.
>
>Points for Tool.
>
>As for the rest, you impress me about as much as an enema.

I dunno... Barium is an interesting substance and I think...

... never mind.

>
>Jeff-boy

Let me know when your pants get wet...

...I'll FedEx you a life raft. That glacier covering Winnipeg is
going to melt soon.

Look at it this way...

You always WNTED an indoor whirlpool, right?

He he he he he...

Melinda

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no. actually it was sabrina, the teenage witch.
melinda (that was a joke by the way)

Individuation <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in article
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> On 26 Apr 1997, Melinda wrote:
>
> > hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).

> > i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is
the

> > rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.

> > i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.
> > bye, melinda
> >
>

> What's wrong with this phrase "I'm goth...I do not listen to the music"?


> Hon, if you've watched the craft one too many times and decided that goth

> was the new in thing...or saw that hot topic store and begged mom for a

> vampire dress....go away. The music is a pretty important part of the

> scene...it STARTED the scene. I don't think anyone here gives a shit
> what you look like....if they do, fuck them....but if you have no clue
> why you're gothic....why you don't listen to the music....go away.
>

> besides...all this proves is that you have bad taste.
>

> Eileen
>

Dawn DeGezelle

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Web tv is really not that bad, hell it gives me a way to tell you what
i think of you!
As for the music that you like, yes I have LISTENED to it, I have
LISTENED to it way to much if you ask me! And yes I still think that it
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawn DeGezelle

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Ah yes, another person who also has a book or two.

Rhiloh

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is this really necessary? isnt there a better way? perhaps we can be more
welcoming? wouldnt it be cool to offer someone a positive initiation? why
hurt a newcomer in this way? it's so self-defeating. obviously, youre
intelligent. this much is apparent. surely being nicer would have been more
constructive. why tell someone to "go away"? (as an eldergoth) i remember a
day when we made sure people who were checking out gothdom were made to
feel welcomed/accepted. that's what keeps gothdom healthy and thriving. i
wish we could revive that. i'm not attacking you personally, of
course....just think: is this how you were introduced to gothdom? -Rhiloh

Individuation

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On 28 Apr 1997, Rhiloh wrote:

> is this really necessary? isnt there a better way? perhaps we can be more
> welcoming? wouldnt it be cool to offer someone a positive initiation? why
> hurt a newcomer in this way?

I suppose I'm just fed up with the amount of troll traffic that we've
been having. And now, with the craft and the crow...we have all these
teeny boppers deciding that goth is the next cool bandwagon to jump on.
That whole thing makes me sick. So when I see "Hi, I'm goth...but I
don't like goth music" I don't see a better way. Perhaps I'm hard
headed for that....but I'm really tired of the 15 year olds drooling on
my shoes because I was wearing black before Hot Topic opened. Bleh.

it's so self-defeating. obviously, youre
> intelligent. this much is apparent. surely being nicer would have been more
> constructive. why tell someone to "go away"?

Perhaps you could look at the post made by a very intelligent and sweet
13 year old. I was thrilled to have her as part of this news
group...because she honestly was into the sub culture.

> (as an eldergoth) i remember a
> day when we made sure people who were checking out gothdom were made to
> feel welcomed/accepted.

If that were the case..."Hi..I'm curious about what goth is" I would
have answered in a private letter as I'm prone to do....but this was too
blatant for my likeing.

> that's what keeps gothdom healthy and thriving. i
> wish we could revive that.

But if all the kids who just want something cool for year take up
goth...it will die. Hello, look at punk rock. Can we say deader than a
doornail?

> i'm not attacking you personally, of
> course.

Of course...

>...just think: is this how you were introduced to gothdom? -Rhiloh
>

No...I met a goth girl...and found out we had similar tastes in
music...and ideas about the world and people....it kinda grew from there.
I didn't enter a news group and announce "I'm GOTHIC..."

Canticle

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The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net>

: >something up other than the pap you're listening to now and decide then


: >whether you like it or not.

: Hey Jeff?

Right here...

: What's "pap"?

It's one of those charming terms I use to refer to the refuse and
intellectual defunct material which is spewed by a large portion of the
planet.

In short, it's crude and it's ugly and it makes me feel better to refer to
crude and ugly things with such terms.

: Is that a Canadian thing? ;)

Probably. We're good at making fun of things.

: Let me know when your pants get wet...

I just finished plugging up all the drains in the basement to prevent that
wonderful phenomenae known as sewer backup...

Floodwaters are going to be here soon. I'm just hoping the dike near
Brunkild holds, because if not, South Winnipeg is going to be Lake South
Winnipeg.

Should make for cool news though.

: ...I'll FedEx you a life raft. That glacier covering Winnipeg is
: going to melt soon.

It's melting, we had rain the last two days, the waters from the United
States are set to arrive. It's fun living near the end of the millenium.

Jeff-boy

Canticle

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Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net>

: No shit, you all know how to read books too, and you even remember


: names from them. If you think it hurt me that you know where it came
: from your wroung, because you see you also must have some of the books
: yourself.

I work in a store that sells books and it gets boring sometimes, you little
bint. And when sperm burping gutter sluts like yourself emerge on the
newsgroup, well, I could care less whether they've read the same books as
myself, because even the mentally deficient and socially bankrupt can learn
how to read. Tell me, did the people at WebTV inform you just what trolls
like yourself can expect when they behave the way you do?

Doubt it.

Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.

Jeff-boy

Stained

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Dawn DeGezelle wrote:
>
> You might think your cool, but your not!

You might think you can spell, but you can't.

Sheryl
(should I get into the whole grammar thing?)
--
Warning: Cape does not enable wearer to fly.


Sparrow

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On 28 Apr 1997, Canticle wrote:

> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
>

I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Bruce Willis became an action
star.

Mira(ge)


Luis Vazquez

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Oh my God! Your only 16!?! whats with you?? Just Kiding of course.
Welcome and I hope you enjou yourself here.

Luis

Jealousy

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The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net> wrote in article

Canticle said, in all his blinding humility :)
>>gonorrhea infested snatch,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> *The Lighthouse Keeper drops his "Hot Pocket" on a plate in

^^^^^^^^^^
> disgust...*

Murph...BWHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAH......

Sorry.
This was pointless....
Jealousy(ok, I'm sick.)

Sparrow

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On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Dawn DeGezelle wrote:

> Web tv is really not that bad, hell it gives me a way to tell you what
> i think of you!

And we should care because.....?

Mira(ge)


Dawn DeGezelle

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Dawn DeGezelle

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Dawn DeGezelle

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Respond again latter when you can think of a better way to put me
down. (it didn't work this time!)

Dawn DeGezelle

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I do hope that you feel better now, by the way you may want to take
your finger out of your ass befor it gets stuck there.


Jack

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Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<5k17jl$bfl$1...@newsd-2.alma.webtv.net>...


> You might think your cool, but your not!
>

You know, I'm just starting to wonder how long all of these Web TV
imbeciles have actually owned their little super-dooper remotes. I mean,
supposedly a ton of these things got sold around Christmastime, it's now
the end of April, and we're just starting to see Web TV posts. Does it
actually take four months of clicking to get bored with web pages and
discover the "NEWSGROUPS" button and what it's for, or what? Do we have to
worry about a post X-mas spike in idiot posts every year now? Just
curious.
--
-Jack-
"Death, it's not just for breakfast anymore."
[remove _nospaam_ from my address to reply]

Zoe

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> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.

I just want to get a good look at that girls' hair. You know, the one
you see for about 2 seconds in the commercial, weird hair and doing
flips.

Rhiloh

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i am an "elder", and i think your music selections are helpful. youre doing
fine here. however, don't you think all this name-calling is a little
discouraging? i'm not pointing fingers. but shouldnt we be more welcoming
to new-comers? it's better to encourage than to discourage, yes? -Rhiloh

D <dno...@idir.net> wrote in article <33638C...@idir.net>...
> Panic Girl wrote:


> >
> > On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Individuation wrote:
> >
> > > What's wrong with this phrase "I'm goth...I do not listen to the
music"?
> >

> > Okay, here's the big "yeah, but..."
> > I think that we're pretty much agreed that goth also
> > has something to do with one's additude toward life.
> > I had that additude before I knew what (for example)
> > Bahaus was.
> > However, I *do* think it's pretty foolish to post that
> > one is pretty much clueless, as she did.
> > 'Course I've done it... (Think SOM bashing...)
> > <blushes>
> >
> Perhaps she has just not heard the right music. Listeneing to Rollins
> Band is always a big thumbs up in my book. There is a lot of 'Goth'
> music that I particularly don't care for.
>
> Melinda, if you are reading, you may try:
> Bauhaus (_Burning_from_the_Inside_ is a good start)
> Sisters of Mercy (_First_and_Last_and_Always_, my personal favorite)
> Joy Division
> Front 242
> Faith and the Muse
> The Shroud (if you can find it, send me a copy ;>)
> The Bauhaus and Siousie and the Banshees tribute tapes by Cleopatra
> Switchblade Symphony
>
> Perhaps one of the a.g. "Elders" will post a more complete list if we
> ask _reeeelly_ nice.
>
> -------------------
> Darren, just back from the KC Fetish Ball and feeling Oh-So-Bouncy TM.
>

Christabel La Motte

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In <5k21ku$7...@news.ysu.edu>,
Andrew L. Garman <alga...@cis.ysu.edu> wrote:

> Canticle wrote:
> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
>

> I wanted to go see this movie since its first preview aired on tv.
> I don't know what it's about, or who's in it, but it looks neato.

Bruce Willis (yawn), Gary Oldman (mmmmmmmmmmmm), and Milla Jovovich (drool).

> The two films that I'll see opening night: the Postman, a screenplay
> adapted from David Brin's book; Childhood's End...glee, glee dance for joy
> and smile real big.

They're filming _Postman_? *big eyes*

--
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all mail sent there is automatically deleted. To contact me directly,
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Marcus Pan

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Dawn DeGezelle wrote:
>
> To all of you stupid little brats who think you are so cool, who gives
> a crap about what music started what & why you wear the clothes that you
> do. ( they look like *#@$ any way!) I wish you would all just grow up
> and see that you don't look cool, or hip or what ever you want to call
> it. You don't have a clue how to answer the question givin to you
> because you don't know the answer. So is that how it works? If you don't
> have a clue, you just put the person down and they will never know how
> dumb you really are!
> As for the Pumpkins, THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

Hah. WebTV, also known as Troll V2.0! As opposed to AOL's breed,
V1.0...

Go watch CNN and buy a clue. :)

PAN
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Marcus Pan

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Andrew L. Garman wrote:
>
> Canticle wrote:
> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
>
> I wanted to go see this movie since its first preview aired on tv.
> I don't know what it's about, or who's in it, but it looks neato. I plan
> to see it at matinee or at a one-buck theatre. Most movies don't get that
> much out of me.

>
> The two films that I'll see opening night: the Postman, a screenplay
> adapted from David Brin's book; Childhood's End...glee, glee dance for joy
> and smile real big.

That movie definitely looks kick ass. it opens when again? I can't
remember. Even the metalic logo rules. :) Bruce Willis is in it, btw.

Marcus Pan

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The Lighthouse Keeper wrote:
>
> On 27 Apr 1997 21:11:39 GMT, "Canticle" <cant...@aratar.mb.ca> wrote:
>
> >Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net>
> >
> >That was truly pathetic.
> >
> >If you're going to be insulting, pull your other hand out of your gonorrhea
> >infested snatch, lose the stupid fucking symbols, and find a log in name
> >that wasn't derived from a tired old AD&D book series.
> >
> >Fucking troll.
> >
> >Jeff-boy
>
> I was eating, Jeff.
>
> Warn me next time in the subject line before you do something like
> that?
>
> Ugh!

>
> *The Lighthouse Keeper drops his "Hot Pocket" on a plate in
> disgust...*

>
> Fear & Bullets,
> The Lighthouse Keeper

Umm...you gonna eat that?

<sorry...couldn't resist>

Jen

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On 27 Apr 1997, Christabel La Motte wrote:
> The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > A Goblin baby!
>
> I'd rather procure a real baby and trade it off for the Goblin King... ;)

I have an older brother I'll trade in a SECOND for the Goblin King!!!!!!
And the cool Escher-like stairs to play on!!!!! =)

jen---who is gonna just sit here and drool for a bit *sigh*

Andrew L. Garman

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Christabel La Motte wrote:
Bruce Willis (yawn), Gary Oldman (mmmmmmmmmmmm), and Milla Jovovich (drool).

That's about how I organize them...Bruce makes a good bouncer but
has a fat balloony butt. Gary Oldman seems at time flabby but is cute...
And Milla....drool....

Christable La Motte wrote:
They're filming _Postman_? *big eyes*

Yes,...leap, leap! LEAP!!!

I'm going to see it on opening night...Kevin Costmore is directing it.
The book done properly could get a dozen Goth_As_Fuck Bisquits tm from me.

Feed the D*ck,

&ru

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Jillian Sutter

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In article <slrn5m74is....@jumpgate.erols.com>,
lam...@grendel.net (Christabel La Motte) wrote:

> In <33627f7d....@news.swbell.net>,


> The Lighthouse Keeper <dark...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > A Goblin baby!
>
> I'd rather procure a real baby and trade it off for the Goblin King... ;)
>

> Xabel, shameless Labyrinth fetishist
>

Only if you share him with the rest of us. ;)

.....and if we get him, does this mean we also get borrowing privleges for
his clothes, or do we at least get our own wardrobes to match? (I want
his frock coats, and I want a burgandy version of the dress Sarah wore in
the ballroom scene.)

-Jilli
(who's fiancee has pretty much accepted her David Bowie fixation.)

'i'd like to take your satin dolls and rip them all to shreds i'd like to mess your pretty hair i'd like to see you dead' -Boingo
+my thoughts, not WotC's!+

C-ko Linde

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Your TV dosen't have a spell checker, does it?
Tsk, tsk.

Think what you're missing by not using a real OS.

C-ko

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Panic Girl

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On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Dawn DeGezelle wrote:

> You might think your cool, but your not!
>

<Panic ponders a response this 3 yr may understand>
I'm rubber and you're glue...
Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
Na na na na na na! :P
PANIC, feels better now...

~~~~~
Superman was goth
Because he had a cape

little o

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> Dawn DeGezelle wrote:
> >
> > No shit, you all know how to read books too, and you even remember
> > names from them. If you think it hurt me that you know where it came
> > from your wroung, because you see you also must have some of the books
> > yourself.
>
> Your TV dosen't have a spell checker, does it?
> Tsk, tsk.
>
> Think what you're missing by not using a real OS.

But them computer-things is so complee-cated! Why, ah just look at one
and mah brain starts a-hurtin'. Besahds, mah TV is mah bestest friend.

little o

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Zoe

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> Of course, this is someone who's waiting for Hercules to open with baited
> breath. ;)
> It should be pretty good. If nothing else, it should be excellent
> eye-candy...the fx looked really well done.

I've heard about that. Do you know who's in it or anything?

Harlequin

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On 28 Apr 1997, Canticle wrote:

<Amusing Flame Snipped>

> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.

I've only seen one real ad for it (I'm not counting the reams of posters
and the like with a big 5 on it and nothing else). Looked rather, well,
cartoony.


Of course, this is someone who's waiting for Hercules to open with baited
breath. ;)
It should be pretty good. If nothing else, it should be excellent
eye-candy...the fx looked really well done.

-Harlequin


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* morning more, I'd chuck it all in and get a real job *
* tomorrow. ---John Constantine *
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Sparrow <mbu...@sophia.smith.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.SUN.3.96.97042...@sophia.smith.edu>...


>
>
> On 28 Apr 1997, Canticle wrote:
>
> > Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to
be a
> > kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
> >
>

> I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Bruce Willis became an action
> star.
>

Fucking-A. I mean, Arnold, of course, Sly, weeeell, if you use the right
camera angle. But Bruce? I just don't see it. (Now his wife, maybe. I
mean, she scares *me*.)

Leonora the KittenLady

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In The Year Of Our Lord Mon, 28 Apr 1997 00:02:20 -0400, Dawn
DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> Dared To Write:

*plonk*


weeeee

I'm back at it!

-Leonora (Mistress of All Evil & Goddess Material :)

/\_/\Official_Pig_Carrying_100%Pure_KittenLadyWench_Goth_of_the_NYRangers
( o.o ) CASHP 15-96-I---The Alt.Gothic.A.B Feline Margravine of Treachery
> ^ < http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/4751/beezer.html
<> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Leo_Mistress_of_All_Evil <>

David Gerard

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On 28 Apr 1997 20:10:47 GMT, Lisa Hoff <l-h...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:

:It took them that long to scrape together enough pennies for a keyboard
:to go with their "not a computer" cpu that sits on top of their TV.

Do WebTVs take PC keyboards? We could sneak into the house, find the
little AT/XT switch on teh bottom of the keyboard and switch it to XT
and the keyboard won't work any more and the poor dears will be
horribly confused and no technician who doesn't already know the trick
will pick up on it.


- d.

tri...@natverket.com

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GARY OLDMAN is the actor who played DRACULA in BRAM STOKERS DRACULA.
He has also appeared in LEON, TRUE ROMANCE and some other....

- T E T H -

...

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Sparrow

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On 29 Apr 1997, Nytwind wrote:

> > -Harlequin
> There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...
>
> Nytwind...I think I just became clueless...

Are we talking about the creepy Aeon Flux-looking Disney Hercules movie?

Mira(ge)


Sparrow

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On 29 Apr 1997 ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Sparrow (mbu...@sophia.smith.edu) wrote:
>
>
> : star.
>
> : Mira(ge)
>
> I'm now trying to figure out when he _wasn't_ and action "star"...

Well, he started out in "Moonlighting" doing comedy, and the leap from
there to 'Die Hard' is where I got lost a bit.

Mira(ge)


Sparrow

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On 28 Apr 1997, Jack wrote:

> Sparrow <mbu...@sophia.smith.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.SUN.3.96.97042...@sophia.smith.edu>...
> >
> >
> > On 28 Apr 1997, Canticle wrote:
> >
> > > Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to
> be a
> > > kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
> > >
> >
> > I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Bruce Willis became an action
> > star.
> >
> Fucking-A. I mean, Arnold, of course, Sly, weeeell, if you use the right
> camera angle. But Bruce? I just don't see it. (Now his wife, maybe. I
> mean, she scares *me*.)
> --

Actually since that posting, my housemate has told me that Bruce is good
friends with the Sly/Arnold dyad, and that this presumably had something
to do with it. It still doesn't make any *sense*, mind you.

Mira(ge)


Harlequin

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On 29 Apr 1997, Nytwind wrote:

>
>
> > Of course, this is someone who's waiting for Hercules to open with baited
> > breath. ;)
> > It should be pretty good. If nothing else, it should be excellent
> > eye-candy...the fx looked really well done.
> >

> > -Harlequin
> There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...

Yep...Disney's doing it...looks really keen.
<chuckle> Myself and about 5-6 friends were in a pizza shop last weekend,
and the preview for it came on the tv. *All* of us froze and just kinda
stared at the tv, locked in place until the preview was over.
It was then that we decided that it must be seen.

David Gerard

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On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:33:05 -0600, nightshade <jf...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:In article <slrn5mbmi...@dingo.vut.edu.au>,
f...@thingy.apana.org.au wrote:
:> Do WebTVs take PC keyboards?

:i do believe that WebTV's take only their own keyboards. its just a big
:reote control. gotta make as much $$$ as they can off that thing. hook
:you for the basic package, then you realize you need a ($150?) keyboard.

Sounds like a silly business model. They should do it the videogame/
razor way - sell the razor cheap, make yr $ on the blades (i.e. hourly
charges).


- d.

Harlequin

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On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Sparrow wrote:

>
>
> On 29 Apr 1997, Nytwind wrote:
>
> > > -Harlequin
> > There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> > Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...
> >

> > Nytwind...I think I just became clueless...
>
> Are we talking about the creepy Aeon Flux-looking Disney Hercules movie?

The Disney movie, yeah...but I think I missed the Aeon Flux resemblance...

Edvamp

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:There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*

:Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...

I'm not as excited. It's animated (Disney?) and looks to be
somewhat cheesy.


Ever and Always
Edvamp
Perkygoth Supreme

Zoe

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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Edvamp wrote:
>
> :There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> :Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...
>
> I'm not as excited. It's animated (Disney?) and looks to be
> somewhat cheesy.

How much you ant to bet that they don't even TOUCH on the part where he
murders his wife and children? And the part where he is forced to dress
like a woman by his dominatrix master? WooHoo!!

Harlequin

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On 29 Apr 1997, Edvamp wrote:

> :There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> :Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...
>
> I'm not as excited. It's animated (Disney?) and looks to be
> somewhat cheesy.

But...but...that's the point! <grin>

-Harlequin, who still gets a kick out of cheesy Disney movies

Ligeia

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tri...@natverket.com wrote:
: GARY OLDMAN is the actor who played DRACULA in BRAM STOKERS DRACULA.

: He has also appeared in LEON, TRUE ROMANCE and some other....

"Romeo Is Bleeding" is by far his best movie!!!!

Ligeia
Picturing Oldman tied to the wrought iron bed - - her standing over him -
- she say's "on or off"

Sola V

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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edvamp scribbled with speed:

> I'm not as excited. It's animated (Disney?) and looks to be
>somewhat cheesy.


Yup, Disney. Yup, cheesy. But it promises to be most entertaining.
Especially since Hades is a smartass slickster dude. <cackle>


dreams of the City,
Sola
"Mention my name and get a doom with a view."- Hades, "Hercules"

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hell she is.
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Christabel La Motte

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In <86233903...@marduk.obscure.org>,
Ligeia <lig...@obscure.org> wrote:

> tri...@natverket.com wrote:
> : GARY OLDMAN is the actor who played DRACULA in BRAM STOKERS DRACULA.
> : He has also appeared in LEON, TRUE ROMANCE and some other....
>
> "Romeo Is Bleeding" is by far his best movie!!!!

And don't forget _Sid and Nancy_...

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Nytwind

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> Yep...Disney's doing it...looks really keen.
> <chuckle> Myself and about 5-6 friends were in a pizza shop last
weekend,
> and the preview for it came on the tv. *All* of us froze and just kinda
> stared at the tv, locked in place until the preview was over.
> It was then that we decided that it must be seen.
>
> -Harlequin

Oh no!!
Why does it have to be a Disney movie!?
*sigh*

Nytwind--My god..they can't even do history..how are they going to do a
myth...
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Feyd-Rautha

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Christabel writes:

>Andrew L. Garman <alga...@cis.ysu.edu> wrote:

>> Canticle wrote:
>> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
>> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.
>>

>> I wanted to go see this movie since its first preview aired on tv.
>> I don't know what it's about, or who's in it, but it looks neato.

>Bruce Willis (yawn), Gary Oldman (mmmmmmmmmmmm), and Milla Jovovich (drool).

>> The two films that I'll see opening night: the Postman, a screenplay
>> adapted from David Brin's book; Childhood's End...glee, glee dance for joy
>> and smile real big.

>They're filming _Postman_? *big eyes*

yup

unfortunately, it is directed by/starring Kevin Costner,
and Brin is reputedly Not Happy with the screenplay
(altered by Costner, of course...certain parts of the book
were judged "inaccessible") to the point where I believe
he requested the "based on the book by:" credit be removed

-Feyd (a blackguard)

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alga...@cis.ysu.edu (Andrew L. Garman) writes:

> The two films that I'll see opening night: the Postman, a screenplay
>adapted from David Brin's book; Childhood's End...glee, glee dance for joy
>and smile real big.

Yay! That's what the Postman will be? I had hoped it was an adaption of Brin's
work, but feared it was just going to be some bad horror movie with the same
name. cool... wow... lot's of good stuff in the works...

-scotty
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and fast takes of conversation, as it were, and when with heightened
concentration I try to move in closer, everything seems to move away
from me; perhaps I am somewhat overinvolved with this) (- B.Malzberg)

Canticle

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Christabel La Motte <lam...@grendel.net>

: And don't forget _Sid and Nancy_...

"They said we'd spend it all on drugs..."

Hee...

Oh Sid, how I miss you.

Jeff-boy

Jillian Sutter

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In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.97042...@denali.ccs.neu.edu>,
Harlequin <des...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:

> On 29 Apr 1997, Edvamp wrote:
>
> > :There's a new Hercules movie coming out?? *shmack self*
> > :Excuse me for a moment while I try and figure out where I've been...
> >

> > I'm not as excited. It's animated (Disney?) and looks to be
> > somewhat cheesy.

> But...but...that's the point! <grin>

actually, the villian (Hades!) seems pretty cool. Then again, most Disney
movies have decent villians.

the thing that makes me feel uneasy about it is seeing the Muses turned
into some mutant animated version of En Vogue. The first time I saw that
in the trailer, I felt queasy.

-Jilli
(who feels there hasn't been any decent music in Disney movies since Howard Ashman died, and spent all of Hunchback muttering about the banality of most of the score.)

'i'd like to take your satin dolls and rip them all to shreds i'd like to mess your pretty hair i'd like to see you dead' -Boingo
+my thoughts, not WotC's!+

Jack

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Sparrow <mbu...@sophia.smith.edu> wrote in article

<Pine.SUN.3.96.970429...@sophia.smith.edu>...


>
>
> On 28 Apr 1997, Jack wrote:
>
> > Sparrow <mbu...@sophia.smith.edu> wrote in article
> > <Pine.SUN.3.96.97042...@sophia.smith.edu>...

<snip>


> > > I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Bruce Willis became an
action
> > > star.
> > >
> > Fucking-A. I mean, Arnold, of course, Sly, weeeell, if you use the
right
> > camera angle. But Bruce? I just don't see it. (Now his wife, maybe.
I
> > mean, she scares *me*.)
> > --
> Actually since that posting, my housemate has told me that Bruce is good
> friends with the Sly/Arnold dyad, and that this presumably had something
> to do with it. It still doesn't make any *sense*, mind you.
>

Actually, they own Planet Hollywood together. But I think that all that
came about *after* Willis was already an action star. I mean, he went from
Moonlighting, to Die Hard, to action star. Someone explain this to me.

Harlequin

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On 29 Apr 1997, Nytwind wrote:

>
>
> > Yep...Disney's doing it...looks really keen.
> > <chuckle> Myself and about 5-6 friends were in a pizza shop last
> weekend,
> > and the preview for it came on the tv. *All* of us froze and just kinda
> > stared at the tv, locked in place until the preview was over.
> > It was then that we decided that it must be seen.

> Oh no!!
> Why does it have to be a Disney movie!?
> *sigh*

Because it's silly...
Because it's goofy...

Alright, it's a blatant marketing scheme, but hey, the music sounded neet,
and they even make a joke about merchandising.
*I'll* have fun with it. dammit! :)

-Harlequin

A Mattes

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ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote in article
<5k4fkc$j8e$3...@news.sas.ab.ca>...
> Sparrow (mbu...@sophia.smith.edu) wrote:


>
>
> : On 28 Apr 1997, Canticle wrote:
>
> : > Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to
be a
> : > kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.

> : >
>
> : I'm still trying to figure out exactly how Bruce Willis became an
action
> : star.
>
> : Mira(ge)
>
> <snip>
> 5th Element is definately a must-see, for me at least. But who is Gary
> Oldman? I know the name, but can't place it...
> --
> In chaos all things are possible.
> You don't know me. No one knows me.
>
> I can be reached at ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

I don't know anything about this 5th Element business but, as for Gary
Oldman he was DRACULA! Remember? I know because he's still hovering over my
bed. Every now and then he falls into it while I'm sleeping. Pity about
that Ryder tart. ;) He was also in Beethoven (Immortal Beloved) and Prick
Up Your Ears (Joe Orton) and I *think* he was also Sid Vicious in Sid and
Nancy.

It's good to see your newsreader's working again. :)

Cosey Mo

The Mad Scribbler

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"Jack" <jack@_nospaam_apex.net> gasped frantically:

>Do we have to
>worry about a post X-mas spike in idiot posts every year now? Just
>curious.

<shuddering> The thought of an exponential growth in the Clueless
Masses is a *BAD* thing... Hopefully, the numbers will stay constant
as some of those who buy these things actually MAY develop a clue,
some will get bored and sell the thing and the rest will stay about
where they are.

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be8...@binghamton.edu

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On 28 Apr 1997, Andrew L. Garman wrote:

>
> Canticle wrote:
> Ob- Does anyone else out there think that the 5th Element is going to be a
> kick ass movie? I'm going to see it for Gary Oldman alone.

Yeah, he looks amazing...but have you noticed that in all but a few of the
commercials they don't even show him...what's up with THAT?! Have you
seen the commercial for Air Force One with Harrison Ford and Gary Oldman?
We saw it as a preview before Grosse Pointe Blank and were thrilled to see
good ol' Gary sporting a crazy accent...oddly at the end of the commercial
after the credits come up (you know, starring blah, blah directed by yada,
yada) there is this extra scene that pops up where Harrison Ford bashes
Oldman with a briefcase...it was so out of place...we laughed.

> I wanted to go see this movie since its first preview aired on tv.

> I don't know what it's about, or who's in it, but it looks neato. I plan
> to see it at matinee or at a one-buck theatre. Most movies don't get that
> much out of me.

I loved the pre-preview for this flick too, the music was what got me;
very beautiful, dreamy and Dead Can Dance-ish...I hope that the soundtrack
turns out to be worthwhile...Luc Besson is an incredible director so this
one looks/sounds promising :)

spinning in the cave
~leah


be8...@binghamton.edu

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Marcus Pan wrote:

> Andrew L. Garman wrote:
>
> That movie definitely looks kick ass. it opens when again? I can't
> remember. Even the metalic logo rules. :) Bruce Willis is in it, btw.
>
> PAN

May 9th I believe!

Rosaleen Dhu

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In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970429...@denali.ccs.neu.edu>,
Harlequin <des...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:

> *I'll* have fun with it. dammit! :)

You aren't the only one.
*Certified Disney Freak...yup, that's me*
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Andrew L. Garman

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Feyd-Rautha wrote:
(altered by Costner, of course...certain parts of the book
were judged "inaccessible") to the point where I believe
he requested the "based on the book by:" credit be removed

Tell me it ain't so....:(
&ru

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rhowan

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On 28 Apr 1997 08:29:02 GMT, "Canticle" <cant...@aratar.mb.ca> wrote:
>
>I just finished plugging up all the drains in the basement to prevent that
>wonderful phenomenae known as sewer backup...
>

Er, yuck. Broken sump pumps, basement bailing, miscillaneous flooding, ah the
memories...

Public works tried to convince my mom it was 'seepage' once. She rather <ahem>
politely informed them that toilet paper and tampons do not _seep_.

>Floodwaters are going to be here soon. I'm just hoping the dike near
>Brunkild holds, because if not, South Winnipeg is going to be Lake South
>Winnipeg.
>
>Should make for cool news though.
>
Best of luck Jeff Boy, and here, have a life-saver. Sorry, all I've got are the
butterscotch ones.

~rhowan


Azrael Abyss

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On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:27:02 GMT, f...@thingy.apana.SPAAMTRAAAP.org.au
(David Gerard) said something like:

That would work, except I'm pretty sure you can configure those WebTV
things to work on any ISP with a PPP dialup. So much for killfiling
webtv.net.....

-Ian
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Eleanor, the Megaflow Junkie

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On 26 Apr 1997 13:57:52 GMT, "Melinda" <rve...@smart.net.au> wrote:

>hi everyone. i'm really new here (about ten minutes new).

Hi Melinda,
Welcome to the flamefest !!!
As you may have noticed, some people around here get a little hot
under the collar, but don't take it personally - they're just a bit
edgy because of all the trolls...

>i'm goth, although i do not listen to the music. my favourite band is the
>rollins band, followed by the smashing pumpkins andd tool.

If you get the chance try out some of the gothier bands (Rosetta
Stone, Fields of the Nephilim, Manuskript, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus,
Horatii, etc.) - no guarantees you'll like them, but you might be
pleasantly surprised.

>i'm 16 years old and please don't give me shit about it.

Hey, we're all 16 sometime (and some of us are still acting like it a
decade later =;)

- Eleanor, THE MeGafLow JUnkiE

transgender: a tired label gender punk: a way of life >8^)

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Marcus Pan

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I'm there. Movie looks good.

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ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

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Jack (jack@_nospaam_apex.net) wrote:

(Snip)
: Actually, they own Planet Hollywood together. But I think that all that


: came about *after* Willis was already an action star. I mean, he went from
: Moonlighting, to Die Hard, to action star. Someone explain this to me.

After Moonlighting, Die Hard was the first (only?) movie he could (would?)
do (at least, that got noticed.) After Die Hard, producers couldn't see
him in anything *but* an action movie; thus, that's all he did for a
time, creating an action star image (complete with the poor reputation
amongst critics that usually creates.) I never had a problem seeing him
as an action star, actually; where does the confusion come from?

: --

: -Jack-
: "Death, it's not just for breakfast anymore."
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klaatu

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David Gerard wrote:
>
> On 28 Apr 1997 20:10:47 GMT, Lisa Hoff <l-h...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> :It took them that long to scrape together enough pennies for a keyboard
> :to go with their "not a computer" cpu that sits on top of their TV.
>
> Do WebTVs take PC keyboards? We could sneak into the house, find the
> little AT/XT switch on teh bottom of the keyboard and switch it to XT
> and the keyboard won't work any more and the poor dears will be
> horribly confused and no technician who doesn't already know the trick
> will pick up on it.

Actually, we may soon have to cope with a new horror as AirData and
Metricom (et al) increase their coverage. At least previously we've been
dealing with people who for all of their other failings are at least
seated somewhere.

With AirDAta or Metricom microcellular TCP/IP, combined with the new
Newton MessagePad 2000 (166Mhz of screaming fast RISC palmtop, pen-based
of course) we will now be subjected to _handwritten_ trolls hastily
whipped off during stops at traffic lights.

>
> - d.

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klaatu <kla...@clark.net> gasped frantically:

>With AirDAta or Metricom microcellular TCP/IP, combined with the new
>Newton MessagePad 2000 (166Mhz of screaming fast RISC palmtop, pen-based
>of course) we will now be subjected to _handwritten_ trolls hastily
>whipped off during stops at traffic lights.

Nice thing about this, though is that we could wind them up to the
point where they get into a traffic accident and break their little
toys. Naaah.... With *MY* luck, I'd be the guy that one of these
trolls runs off the road when he/she is trying to frantically scribble
off a message while blasting down the Interstate at 75 MPH.

Raistlin Majere

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[posted and mailed]

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 00:04:05 -0400, Dawn DeGezelle <Takh...@webtv.net> hath
spoken thus:

> You might think your cool, but your not!

Beware, moron. I defeated Takhisis before.

Raist


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