To DM: Watch for forgeries everywhere.
gerry armstrong
David Miscavige January 8, 1999
RTC
1710 Ivar Avenue, Suite 1100
Los Angeles, CA 90028
Dear David:
I just had a thought. This thought follows on another thought I'd
been having now and then for a number of months, to write you
another letter. This letter would be somewhere in a series of
letters I'd write you. But just now I thought, heh, how about if
everybody writes you. I'll write a book, and everyone else can
write a book. You can have your agents write you letters too, and
you can publish a book of those letters; just like Ron. Or you
can answer someone's letters.
I pretty well have to write my own book because you would not yet
be beyond ordering org attorneys to sue all the participants in
this very cool project for some legal nonsensicalness like acting
in concert with me to write you letters. The way out of this, and
for more than what it's worth, as you know, and as you know I've
said, the way out of a whole pile of problems and embarrassments,
is for you to abrogate the "contract" by which you say you believe
you "legally" bind and silence me. That you can do this with the
stroke of a pen and do not is a welcome advertisement for
$cientology's stupidity of thought. And please don't take that as
an insult, but an invitation to advertise your great wisdom by
curing a great many problems with such a great bold stroke.
I'll probably post the letters once in a while. We'll write a
book. You can respond if you think you can. So can everyone else.
You can have your lawyers contact me with offers at any time.
Mail is never rejected.
There is something I would like you to know right up front because it
might help to get your ruds in on me. You will recall that a cult
operative broke into the trunk of my car in 1984 and stole my
briefcase which contained about 300 original pages of my art, almost
all handwritten or drawn. You will recall that my attorney Julia
Dragojevic wrote to the org demanding return, and that your org
attorney John Peterson answered, denying the theft and possession
of my things.
Your stupid December 1986 bs settlement with the then OK
Corralers (there's another crew building a better, stronger
corral for 1999) prevented my doing much more than try to heal
the terrible secondary left by your agent's theft of my original,
irreplaceable and extremely valuable works. The $50,000 loss I
recorded on my tax return only begins to reflect these works' not
only spiritual but artistic and commercial value.
Then your stupid refusal to live by any only half-stupid
interpretation of your bs settlement agreement, which was just a part
of your refusal to live by any only half-stupid civilized standard
of decent behavior, stuck me back in, I know you've said
yourself, your face. A big chunk of my in your face work was from
August 1991 for the next 4 plus years with Ford Greene, who as, I
like to say, Heaven would have it, was the attorney for Rick and
Vickie Aznaran.
During that period, as you know, when I was working with Ford,
Vickie told me that you had told her right after the theft that
you had possession of the works stolen from my car trunk. She
said you laughed and mocked them and called them, I think I
recall, something like weird poetry. You can check my
declarations from the period right after I spoke with Vickie for
her words.
Ford, and I I might as well add, and as you know, beat your cult
and lawyers, on behalf of the Aznarans, in US District Court in
LA. And then you had the Aznarans paid off by way of
"settlement" to burn Ford, and me I might also just as well add,
after our years of successful litigation of their case.
So with that stupid move you added insult to secondary by buying
off the person whose testimony I needed to get you to fork over
what you had stolen from me. Heck, you even had Vickie and Rick
paid to execute false affidavits attacking Ford and me.
Well, recently I had the happy opportunity to talk with Jesse
Prince about all this. Jesse stated that while inside he too was
told by both you and Mark Rathbun about your agent's theft of my
things from the trunk of my car and your having possession of
them. Jesse recalled you describing my work as weird writing. You
know what they are. My writing is really articulated but not really
weird. I am not, however, protesting your characterization of the
subject works. You stole them, you know were they are and
you can put your hands on them. Now get them back to me, and be
known thereuntil as a thief.
If you were me you'd have to smile. This guy, a big shot,
media-prone, rich as Croesus cult leader, steals my book of letters to
L. Ron Hubbard (plus my other things of course), he refuses to return
them, he lies about having them, and now I'm writing him, Ron's
replacement, another book of letters to get them back.
I am not unaware of the immediate danger in which this puts Jesse
and me. I am sure you are not unaware of it too.
Yours peacefully therefore,
(c) Gerry Armstrong
Xapped
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, gerry armstrong wrote:
>
> So with that stupid move you added insult to secondary by buying
> off the person whose testimony I needed to get you to fork over
> what you had stolen from me. Heck, you even had Vickie and Rick
> paid to execute false affidavits attacking Ford and me.
David Miscavige has "exteriorized" from the law and is now operating
fully dependent upon and enslaved by LRH's will.
Nice letter, Gerry, and I like the idea of writing a bunch of letters and
making a book. Let's see, what will I call mine? How 'bout:
ENSLAVEMENT is LEGAL
"Into thy hands I commend my spirit! Thou hast redeemed me, oh Lord God
of truth!" -- from "Uncle Tom's Cabin," by Harriet Beecher Stowe
Not only is enslavement legal, but, if done under the auspices of
religion, it is protected by law.
There are important differences between slavery and enslavement. In
slavery, which was declared by the 13th Amendment to be illegal, a deed of
title is held on a human being. This deed of title answers any question
about whether or not the subject person is a slave. He is physically
captive, and his owner has a piece of paper to justify it.
While enslavement, however, does not entail a deed of title due to legal
complications, the paperwork has still not been neglected, as shown by the
following excerpt from a Scientology entrance form:
I AM AWARE THAT BY SIGNING BELOW, I AM FOREVER GIVING UP MY RIGHT TO SUE
THE CHURCH, ITS STAFF AND/OR OTHER SCIENTOLOGY-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS FOR
ANY INJURY OR DAMAGE SUFFERED IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH THE SERVICE
ACTIVITIES.
Enslavement is the intentional action of taking away a person's free will
for the purpose of subjugating him. Unlike slavery, the act of
enslavement most often occurs by degree. Each successive degree is used
to confirm and ascertain a more complete grade of enslavement. It may be
possible to have the dominated person hand over all his savings, then go
out and make more money so that it can be handed over, too.
However high up greed and affluence may be on the scale, they are not the
ultimate goal. Enslavement is about total power over a human being. The
highest condition of existence possible, even higher than affluence,
according to Scientology, is power.
Enslavement is not without precedent. In the drug world, heroin is used
to physically addict victims. That addiction is then used as coercement
against the victims to make them use extraordinary means to attain a
continuous supply of money. The pusher who provides the dope is not
addicted to heroin, he is enslaving people to bend them to his will.
In the cult world of Scientology, the sacred Scientology scripture is used
to create a "religious" imbalance in an individual which cannot be
resolved by anything other than Scientology. This linking of
Scientology's survival with one's own is then used to coerce the
individual to use extraordinary means of attaining money.
The purpose of both cult masters and drug pushers is to enslave people.
Joe C.
My response to the Scientology attack on Germany is contained in the
documentation on Scientology in German-speaking countries at website:
http://cisar.org
The Librarian
and demented little limp and run-away in Canada could devolve any
further, he tries to resort to intellectual rape.
Gerry seems to be constitutionally incapable of distinguishing
a HARD FACT from a LIMP NOODLE!
And what use does a girl like *me* have for somebody like
*that,* I ask you!
Uh, like, *none*.
Would anybody out there like to give me a ten-minute
back-rub before I go to sleep?
Anybody?
--<The ARSCC Librarian>
John D.
bunch of letters, and you want others to also write a whole bunch of
letters because you think they won't be appreciated, UNLESS someone
cancels a settlement agreement you executed in 1986.
Well, ok, I can think with that. Judging your "writings" by the famed
"pig letter" (remember that one, Ger? ... the "I dreamed I want to
fuck the talking pig" letter you wrote as an earlier example of your
literary mastery), I can certainly understand why no rational human
being would wish to receive mail from you.
However, after having worked as a paralegal for many years, haven't
you learned anything? Don't you recall legal buzz words like
"extortion" and "blackmail" when applied to using threats to bring
about some sort of action? ... Oh, I got it. You're just exercising
your First Amendment rights while hiding in your Mom's house in
Canada, you big, brave freedom of speech fighter.
You've lost it, Gerry. The courts upheld the settlement agreement and
the injunction. The appeals court threw out your appeal. The court in
Nevada threw out your case. Get a life.
John
Mike O'Connor
[...]
> Get a life.
[...]
johnd, look at this lifetime of yours. Is this what you thought
Scientology would have you doing when you first joined? Acting like an
anonymous thug from a place of HIDING? Spewing organized HATE, being
ordered to do it? Is this the way to save the planet? THINK!
--
Mike O'Connor - lep...@panix.com
<http://www.panix.com/~lepton/>
Beverly Rice
> jo...@myriad.net (John D.) wrote:
> >Well, ok, I can think with that. Judging your "writings" by the famed
> >"pig letter" (remember that one, Ger? ... the "I dreamed I want to
> >fuck the talking pig" letter you wrote as an earlier example of your
> >literary mastery), I can certainly understand why no rational human
> >being would wish to receive mail from you.
> The pig dream was not written as an earlier example of my literary
> mastery. But you know that. And it is really stupid to judge
> everything I might write by a dream recounted 14 years ago. Wouldn't
> you call the person making this bigoted judgment a bigot?
Actually, Co$ members, who only are able to absorb the psychotic
ramblings of LRH, therefore being unable to understand and interpret
dreams, don't realize the impact of the dream you recounted.
Here it is . . . "TRUTH REVEALED"!! Be forwarned, reading this
material before being adequately prepared for it can cause one to
freewheel aimlessly (and even feel "squashed and spinny").
*
*
*
*
The "PIG" represents L. Ron Hubbard!!!! F*cking the pig represents
allowing one's mind to become one with the "PIG" (LRH).
As known, from Co$ thinking they were harming you by printing the
dream you recounted to them in confidence, it is well known that you
did NOT f*ck the "PIG" (LRH), thus demonstrating you would not allow
your mind to be made one with the "PIG" (LRH).
However, it is quite obvious who all ~did~ f*ck the "PIG" (LRH).
Can't figure out why Co$ members are unable to confront that
truth.
Beverly
gerry armstrong
wrote:
>[posted & mailed]
>On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, gerry armstrong wrote:
>
>>
>> So with that stupid move you added insult to secondary by buying
>> off the person whose testimony I needed to get you to fork over
>> what you had stolen from me. Heck, you even had Vickie and Rick
>> paid to execute false affidavits attacking Ford and me.
>
>David Miscavige has "exteriorized" from the law and is now operating
>fully dependent upon and enslaved by LRH's will.
>
>Nice letter, Gerry, and I like the idea of writing a bunch of letters and
>making a book. Let's see, what will I call mine? How 'bout:
>
>ENSLAVEMENT is LEGAL
>
>"Into thy hands I commend my spirit! Thou hast redeemed me, oh Lord God
>of truth!" -- from "Uncle Tom's Cabin," by Harriet Beecher Stowe
>
>Not only is enslavement legal, but, if done under the auspices of
>religion, it is protected by law.
That's the point which can be corrected by making it clear to law
makers what is being protected and that slavery or enslavement is
unacceptable in any form.
>
>There are important differences between slavery and enslavement. In
>slavery, which was declared by the 13th Amendment to be illegal, a deed of
>title is held on a human being. This deed of title answers any question
>about whether or not the subject person is a slave. He is physically
>captive, and his owner has a piece of paper to justify it.
The $cientology slavers believe that they have a piece of paper that
today in 1999 makes me their slave. A slave was a slave in large part
because he was barred from asserting the same defenses freemen
possessed. He had no right to talk back nor the same recourse to the
courts as freemen. $cientology claims that by its piece of paper,
approved by a California court, organization personnel, agents and
lawyers may say whatever they want about me, no matter how wrong or
defamatory, and I can not respond, or be jailed if I do respond. What
they seek really is barred by the 13th Amendment, and the court order
enforcing the slavery is illegal. That's why I feel completely
confident that I am doing nothing wrong in ignoring, indeed
continuously violating, the court order. If the American slaves of the
19th Century didn't oppose and violate that "legal" slavery (by in
many cases escape to Canada) it is entirely possible that the evil of
slavery would have continued. Everyone should violate $cientology's
slavery orders every chance they get.
>
>While enslavement, however, does not entail a deed of title due to legal
>complications, the paperwork has still not been neglected, as shown by the
>following excerpt from a Scientology entrance form:
>
>I AM AWARE THAT BY SIGNING BELOW, I AM FOREVER GIVING UP MY RIGHT TO SUE
>THE CHURCH, ITS STAFF AND/OR OTHER SCIENTOLOGY-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS FOR
>ANY INJURY OR DAMAGE SUFFERED IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH THE SERVICE
>ACTIVITIES.
>
>Enslavement is the intentional action of taking away a person's free will
>for the purpose of subjugating him. Unlike slavery, the act of
>enslavement most often occurs by degree. Each successive degree is used
>to confirm and ascertain a more complete grade of enslavement. It may be
>possible to have the dominated person hand over all his savings, then go
>out and make more money so that it can be handed over, too.
The RPF is a pocket of slavery in already repressive and feudal
$cientologyland. The RPF assignment "Conditions Order" is the deed of
title held on the slave.
>
>However high up greed and affluence may be on the scale, they are not the
>ultimate goal. Enslavement is about total power over a human being. The
>highest condition of existence possible, even higher than affluence,
>according to Scientology, is power.
Precisely. The tyrant on top demands utter submission, or seeks utter
subjugation. Non-compliance equals liability. There is such an
investment in the acquisition of power that hardly any effort is made
by Hubbard and $cientology in their literature to hide its central
position in their "applied religious philosophy.". The effort is made
to cover up the terrible and ugly consequences of their lust for power
and their abuse of the power they acquired.
>
>Enslavement is not without precedent. In the drug world, heroin is used
>to physically addict victims. That addiction is then used as coercement
>against the victims to make them use extraordinary means to attain a
>continuous supply of money. The pusher who provides the dope is not
>addicted to heroin, he is enslaving people to bend them to his will.
>
>In the cult world of Scientology, the sacred Scientology scripture is used
>to create a "religious" imbalance in an individual which cannot be
>resolved by anything other than Scientology. This linking of
>Scientology's survival with one's own is then used to coerce the
>individual to use extraordinary means of attaining money.
>
>The purpose of both cult masters and drug pushers is to enslave people.
Chilling affirmation by Hubbard in his early cult-building days: "All
men are my slaves."
(c) Gerry Armstrong
gerry armstrong
Librarian) wrote:
I'm not so sure this is the ARSCC Librarian. She didn't get many
takers on that rub, and she seemed so much more sensible in earlier
times. I really tried to be friends with these people, don't you
think? Didn't I forgive them 70 times 7 times?
In any event it appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
No, DM is so close to this he left his words: deformed and demented
little limp. Who would say such a thing? I reread my letter, oh
Defender of the Chairman of the Board, and I neither resorted to
intellectual rape nor tried to resort to it. My intellect has never
had any interest in rape. With DM it is true that I joked a bit, but
that is really to let DM know that I am no threat whatsoever. And
ridiculed some overreaching stupidities, because they are there. But I
was clear in my letter and, even though I may have wandered
unnecessarily when not wandering and not saying all the things I said
would have gotten me there just as rapidly, I did definitely get to
the point.
It cannot be stated with certainty that this op has fatally
footbulleted because it is still in motion.
I am aware of the heightened threat that the librarian's response
signals.
(c) Gerry Armstrong
gerry armstrong
>Let's see if I got this right now ... you are going to write a whole
>bunch of letters, and you want others to also write a whole bunch of
>letters because you think they won't be appreciated, UNLESS someone
>cancels a settlement agreement you executed in 1986.
No. You got that wrong.It's too bad you didn't quote what it was that
led to your interpretation. It's better form.
Here's what I wrote:
[Quote]
I pretty well have to write my own book because you would not yet
be beyond ordering org attorneys to sue all the participants in
this very cool project for some legal nonsensicalness like acting
in concert with me to write you letters. The way out of this, and
for more than what it's worth, as you know, and as you know I've
said, the way out of a whole pile of problems and embarrassments,
is for you to abrogate the "contract" by which you say you believe
you "legally" bind and silence me. That you can do this with the
stroke of a pen and do not is a welcome advertisement for
$cientology's stupidity of thought. And please don't take that as
an insult, but an invitation to advertise your great wisdom by
curing a great many problems with such a great bold stroke.
[End quote]
You see, there's no such "UNLESS" connection. I'm writing this book of
letters to David Miscavige, other people can write a book of letters
to him, *and* he should, because it's really stupid not to, abrogate
his stupid "contract" and court order. I was just saying that
*because* of the stupid court order it was probably judicious of me to
write my own, rather than a collaborative book. I was averting
needless suffering.
>
>Well, ok, I can think with that. Judging your "writings" by the famed
>"pig letter" (remember that one, Ger? ... the "I dreamed I want to
>fuck the talking pig" letter you wrote as an earlier example of your
>literary mastery), I can certainly understand why no rational human
>being would wish to receive mail from you.
With that said, I am nevertheless grateful you wrote, because I take
your reply, especially because of its black PR content, as a reply
directly from DM. I can't imagine anyone else using the term rational
being in this context when refering to himself.
The pig dream was not written as an earlier example of my literary
mastery. But you know that. And it is really stupid to judge
everything I might write by a dream recounted 14 years ago. Wouldn't
you call the person making this bigoted judgment a bigot?
>
>However, after having worked as a paralegal for many years, haven't
>you learned anything? Don't you recall legal buzz words like
>"extortion" and "blackmail" when applied to using threats to bring
>about some sort of action? ... Oh, I got it. You're just exercising
>your First Amendment rights while hiding in your Mom's house in
>Canada, you big, brave freedom of speech fighter.
You might note that having gotten it wrong in your first paragraph it
isn't right here. But, do you mean "threats," like wise up DM or we'll
write you letters? And be careful, John, with terms like "blackmail"
which just might be libel per se. It's usually preferable to consult a
lawyer before you need one.
I actually exercise my First Amendment rights wherever I go. And you
would certainly find it exciting if exercised your First Amendment
rights and became yourself a big, brave freedom of speech fighter.
>
>You've lost it, Gerry. The courts upheld the settlement agreement and
>the injunction. The appeals court threw out your appeal. The court in
>Nevada threw out your case. Get a life.
>
The fact that the Marin County California issued an order prohibiting
me from responding to, e.g., your black PR attacks, does not mean that
I have lost it nor that you and your cult have won. Centuries of
slavery being judicially enforced in the United States didn't mean
that the slavers would win. Although judicially ordered, slavery was
still slavery and a societal evil. Although judicially ordered, your
slave contract with Gerry Armstrong is still slavery and a societal
evil all on its own.
What Miscavige and his attorneys won for $cientology in their judicial
and extra-judicial efforts to silence me is something $cientologists
really don't want and will come to wish they hadn't gotten.
See how much easier it would be if you didn't have to defend
stupidity? Just as it was necessary for slaves in America to oppose
slavery, and speak up and be free, even though before the 1860s
slavery was legal and judicially enforced, it is necessary for me to
oppose your organization's slavery, and speak up and be free, even
though in the 1990s your slavery has been briefly judicially enforced.
You think slavery by the $cientology cult is just fine don't you?
(c) Gerry Armstrong
>John
>
roger gonnet
Well, I've never considered it like this; looks possible too. Meanwhile,
we don't have any proofs of what the veritas site said.
Do you have some other facts about this?
roger
G. SCARFF
> The "PIG" represents L. Ron Hubbard!!!! F*cking the pig represents
> allowing one's mind to become one with the "PIG" (LRH).
> However, it is quite obvious who all ~did~ f*ck the "PIG" (LRH).
>
> Can't figure out why Co$ members are unable to confront that
> truth.
Can't figure out why Bev is unable to confront the f* word. C'mon, Bev, say
it!!!FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
Fast
armstrong) wrote:
>On 10 Jan 1999 02:35:54 +0100, libr...@arscc.chimerical.library (The
>Librarian) wrote:
>
>>Well, boys and girls, just when you wouldn't think that the deformed
>>and demented little limp and run-away in Canada could devolve any
>>further, he tries to resort to intellectual rape.
>>
>>Gerry seems to be constitutionally incapable of distinguishing
>>a HARD FACT from a LIMP NOODLE!
>>
>>And what use does a girl like *me* have for somebody like
>>*that,* I ask you!
>>
>>Uh, like, *none*.
>>
>>Would anybody out there like to give me a ten-minute
>>back-rub before I go to sleep?
>>
>>Anybody?
>>
>> --<The ARSCC Librarian>
>
>I'm not so sure this is the ARSCC Librarian. She didn't get many
>takers on that rub, and she seemed so much more sensible in earlier
>times. I really tried to be friends with these people, don't you
>think? Didn't I forgive them 70 times 7 times?
It doesn't sound quite right for "The Librarian". The valley-speak is
new, and although I recall something about "limp noodles" before, the
attack style seems new as well.
>In any event it appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
>the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
>Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
>Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
>untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
>be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
>of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
Its hard to know the players without a scorecard, but isn't Veritas
the mouthpiece for the MacDonald et al group that had filed suit for
defamination against the Cof$, then torpedoed their own lawsuit by
insisting the judge had no jurisdiction?
As wacky as they seem to me, I'm not convinced they were invented by
the criminal cult.
<snip>
- Fast
gerry armstrong
>Sorry, I don't know what happened, didn't mean to post this three times!
>Strange,
>Rosie
exchange got you flustered rosie.
Alan
The difference between being diplomatic and undiplomatic is the difference
between saying "when I look at you, time stands still", and saying "your face
would stop a clock". Anon
Remove "FinnFan" to send mail.
Chris Leithiser
> Can't figure out why Bev is unable to confront the f* word. C'mon, Bev, say
> it!!!FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >
> >
Gimme an "F"...Hey Garry...What's that SPELL? What's that SPELL?
Feel Like I'm Fixing To Blow Rag
Come on all you big strong clams
Uncle Ron needs a helpin' hand
he got himself in a terrible crack
way down yonder on Teegeeack
So put down your cans and pick up your signs
and pass the comm down all the lines
And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
Well, come on body-routers, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out don't be misled —
The only good agent is the one who's dead
And you know that the planet can only be free
When we're disposing of 'em quietly.
And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
Huh!
Well, come on lawyers, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war by T-R-O
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the cult with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if the judge gets wise,
He'll just disbar the _other_ guys.
And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
Well, come on mothers throughout the orgs,
Pack your boys off with the rest of the Borgs
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Disconnect before it's too late.
Be the first one on your street
To have your boy declared SP.
And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
If Ron ain't lyin we'll all be dyin'
'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
jodyz
jodyz
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Dear Mr. Gonnet,
In message <369AEF5C...@worldnet.fr>, you wrote:
<SNIP OF GERRY ARMSTRONG'S FALSE ALLEGATIONS REGARDING VERITAS>
<SEE MY SEPARATE RESPONSE TO MR. ARMSTRONG>
>Meanwhile, we don't have any proofs of what the veritas site said.
>Do you have some other facts about this?
What "proof" do you seek that isn't on the Veritas web site itself?
Everything on our site is well documented there on the site. I cannot
comprehend what you mean. In fact, I begin to get the idea that you
have not even visited the site.
=46or instance, consider the page of our web site at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/cst/locsamples.htm
What "proof" do you need regarding Library of Congress
records, besides the records themselves, which are there on the site?
If you think they have been falsified, it is quite easy to Telnet to
the Library of Congress yourself (the same place we got them from),
and verify the records that we have reproduced on our web site.
Or consider the page at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/cst/dba.htm
Every statement on that page, regarding who was "doing business as"
the "L. Ron Hubbard Library," and when, is thoroughly documented with
ACTUAL SCANS of the legal filings. It also shows who the papers were
filed with in Los Angeles, so anyone who wants even FURTHER confirmation
can go there and get copies, just like we did. What other "proof" do
you require?
Why don't you be more specific about what you find lacking for
"proof" on our site?
Or is it just that you've never bothered to LOOK at what is on the
site, which is why you plaint for "proof"?
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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Dear Mr. Armstrong,
In message <369ab2d5....@news.dowco.com>, you wrote:
<SNIP>
>It appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
>the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
>Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
>Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
>untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
>be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
>of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
If by "over there in Veritasland" you mean our web site, Veritas, then
I cannot help but wonder why you would go to the trouble to lie about
what is on our site.
The facts are:
1. We do not now have, nor have we ever had, ANYTHING at all on our site
regarding Robert Vaughn Young, much less any "black PR."
2. We do not now have, nor have we ever had, ANYTHING at all on our site
regarding you--Gerry Armstrong--much less any "black PR."
3. We do not now have, nor have we ever had ANYTHING at all on our site
regarding Jesse Prince, much less any "black PR."
You, and everyone else reading this, are invited to go to our site at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/index.htm
That will prove inarguably that there is no such "black PR" as you
allege.
Since part of the definition of "black PR," when it is used for the
destruction of repute, includes the use of "a distortion of the truth
or a whole cloth fabrication," then, if you are an honorable man, I am
sure you will issue a rapid and unequivocal retraction of your false
allegations about Veritas, so that you will not be guilty of the
very thing you accuse us of. Unless, of course, your intent is merely
to attempt to destroy our repute using lies.
As for the relative responsibility of attorneys at CST and David
Miscavige, everything on our web site is thoroughly documented. We
leave it to individuals to view the evidence, and to make up their
own minds.
If there is anything on our web site that is erroneous, you are as
free as anyone else to post it here in this newsgroup, and, if you
can document that ANY fact on our web site is erroneous, we will
IMMEDIATELY CORRECT OR REMOVE IT.
=46or over a year I have made this same offer to others who have made
slyly derogatory remarks about the content of our site, and so far,
not one has come back with anything. We have not been called upon to
correct anything on our site. I wonder if you will be different.
I doubt it.
Meanwhile, I look forward to your honorable retraction of your false
statements regarding Veritas.
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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Dear Fast,
You wrote:
>
>Its hard to know the players without a scorecard, but isn't Veritas
>the mouthpiece for the MacDonald et al group that had filed suit for
>defamination against the Cof$, then torpedoed their own lawsuit by
>insisting the judge had no jurisdiction?
>
It is an endless source of perplexed amusement to me why people
simply INSIST on using usenet to make a public spectacle out of their
ignorance on a variety of subjects.
Since you do, please allow me to address and correct the cornucopia
of misconceptions and falsehoods your post poured out onto the net.
=46IRST: Veritas is not a mouthpiece for anyone. Nobody pays us. Nobody
determines our content except the editors and the owner of the site.
Neither the owner of the site, nor any of the editors or contributors
are involved in the Mitchell v. CST lawsuit. We are independent
journalists. All contributions are volunteer. We receive NO funding,
and NO capitalization of ANY kind from ANYONE. Therefore, we are not
beholden to ANYONE, and so your "mouthpiece" characterization is absurd.
SECOND: There is no "MacDonald et al group" that filed suit. The libel
suit we have been covering on our site was filed by Plaintiffs (try to
pay close attention now) Stephen Mitchell, Kathleen Carey, and Lisa
Precious Mitchell. There is not now, nor has there ever been any
"MacDonald" involved the libel suit. Of course, we have noted a
relentless effort on the part of a "wgert" and other obvious OSA
and/or CST-connected posters to convince the stupidest and most
gullible people in the audience that a "MacDonald/McDonald" is involved
in the suit, without ever providing a single shred of evidence to that
effect. I see they have succeeded in convincing you and several other
people who post to this newsgroup.
THIRD: As for whether or not the lawsuit has been "torpedoed" (and by
whom) remains to be seen, since the Plaintiffs have filed a Motion to
Reconsider which I believe is being heard in court today. Whether it
fails or not will have no bearing on our web site, because the facts
that have emerged from the filings and motions in the suit, and from
our own independent investigations surrounding the suit, regarding
CST, the copyrights, etc., are timeless, important, and will be of
continuing interest for a long time to come, no matter what happens to
the suit. While it is our opinion that justice is being trashed the
way the case has been conducted by the judge, the outcome of the suit
itself is neither here nor there as far as we are concerned.
Why don't you just visit our site, as a novelty, get a tenuous hold on
at least a few accurate facts, and then try again, won't you?
>
>As wacky as they seem to me, I'm not convinced they were invented by
>the criminal cult.
Indeed.
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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Lin...@internetdrive.com
arms...@dowco.com (gerry armstrong) wrote:
snip
Gerry - before philosophizing any further, you should go to California and
serve your sentence. That would once and for all handle the currently
outstanding arrest warrants on you.
Linda Sullivan "Science without religion is lame, religion without science
is blind." Einstein
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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Lin...@internetdrive.com
arms...@dowco.com (gerry armstrong) wrote:
> On 10 Jan 1999 02:35:54 +0100, libr...@arscc.chimerical.library (The
> Librarian) wrote:
>
> >Well, boys and girls, just when you wouldn't think that the deformed
> >and demented little limp and run-away in Canada could devolve any
> >further, he tries to resort to intellectual rape.
> >
> >Gerry seems to be constitutionally incapable of distinguishing
> >a HARD FACT from a LIMP NOODLE!
> >
> >And what use does a girl like *me* have for somebody like
> >*that,* I ask you!
> >
> >Uh, like, *none*.
> >
> >Would anybody out there like to give me a ten-minute
> >back-rub before I go to sleep?
> >
> >Anybody?
> >
> > --<The ARSCC Librarian>
>
> I'm not so sure this is the ARSCC Librarian. She didn't get many
> takers on that rub, and she seemed so much more sensible in earlier
> times. I really tried to be friends with these people, don't you
> think? Didn't I forgive them 70 times 7 times?
Boy - it looks like you ought to get some assistance from Heidrun if the 2D
is your ruin. There can be no other reason for a posting like this to send
you off into some mad ramblings.
Chris Chevalier de XENU Lyman
# Gimme an "F"...Hey Garry...What's that SPELL? What's that SPELL?
# Feel Like I'm Fixing To Blow Rag
#
# Come on all you big strong clams
# Uncle Ron needs a helpin' hand
# he got himself in a terrible crack
# way down yonder on Teegeeack
# So put down your cans and pick up your signs
# and pass the comm down all the lines
#
# And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
# Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
# And it's five, six, seven,
# Open up the pearly gates,
# If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
# 'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
#
# Well, come on body-routers, let's move fast;
# Your big chance has come at last.
# Gotta go out don't be misled —
# The only good agent is the one who's dead
# And you know that the planet can only be free
# When we're disposing of 'em quietly.
#
# And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
# Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
# And it's five, six, seven,
# Open up the pearly gates,
# If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
# 'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
#
# Huh!
#
# Well, come on lawyers, don't move slow,
# Why man, this is war by T-R-O
# There's plenty good money to be made
# By supplying the cult with the tools of the trade,
# Just hope and pray that if the judge gets wise,
# He'll just disbar the _other_ guys.
#
# And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
# Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
# And it's five, six, seven,
# Open up the pearly gates,
# If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
# 'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
#
# Well, come on mothers throughout the orgs,
# Pack your boys off with the rest of the Borgs
# Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
# Disconnect before it's too late.
# Be the first one on your street
# To have your boy declared SP.
#
# And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
# Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
# And it's five, six, seven,
# Open up the pearly gates,
# If Ron ain't lyin we'll all be dyin'
# 'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
Omigawd, I just about wet me britches! ROTFLMAO!
Hoo-boy, does that song bring back memories... I was 17 when
I first heard it at a party... heard Jimi Hendrix and *Tom
Lehrer* for the first time at that party as well!
Hmmm, that gives me an idea...
In the meantime, well done, Country Chris and the Clams!
--
Chris Lyman; SP4, KoX
Send email to chris-dot-lyman-atsign-pclink-dot-com.
"Give a man a fish and he'll ask for a lemon. Teach
a man to fish and he'll leave work early on Fridays."
Dav...@aol.com
armstrong) wrote:
>On 10 Jan 1999 02:35:54 +0100, libr...@arscc.chimerical.library (The
>Librarian) wrote:
>
>>Well, boys and girls, just when you wouldn't think that the deformed
>>and demented little limp and run-away in Canada could devolve any
>>further, he tries to resort to intellectual rape.
>>
>>Gerry seems to be constitutionally incapable of distinguishing
>>a HARD FACT from a LIMP NOODLE!
>>
>>And what use does a girl like *me* have for somebody like
>>*that,* I ask you!
>>
>>Uh, like, *none*.
>>
>>Would anybody out there like to give me a ten-minute
>>back-rub before I go to sleep?
>>
>>Anybody?
>>
>> --<The ARSCC Librarian>
>
>I'm not so sure this is the ARSCC Librarian. She didn't get many
>takers on that rub, and she seemed so much more sensible in earlier
>times. I really tried to be friends with these people, don't you
>think? Didn't I forgive them 70 times 7 times?
>
>In any event it appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
>the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
>Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
>Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
>untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
>be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
>of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
>
>No, DM is so close to this he left his words: deformed and demented
>little limp. Who would say such a thing? I reread my letter, oh
>Defender of the Chairman of the Board, and I neither resorted to
>intellectual rape nor tried to resort to it. My intellect has never
>had any interest in rape. With DM it is true that I joked a bit, but
>that is really to let DM know that I am no threat whatsoever. And
>ridiculed some overreaching stupidities, because they are there. But I
>was clear in my letter and, even though I may have wandered
>unnecessarily when not wandering and not saying all the things I said
>would have gotten me there just as rapidly, I did definitely get to
>the point.
>
>It cannot be stated with certainty that this op has fatally
>footbulleted because it is still in motion.
>
>I am aware of the heightened threat that the librarian's response
>signals.
>
>(c) Gerry Armstrong
>
>
This "Librarian" is another imposter. The "ARSCC Librarian" also was
impersonated about a month or so ago, as well as this time. The last
time the fake was slapped down by the real one, bless her heart. I
assume the real Librarian isn't reading the ARS right this moment.
-D
------------------
The "davi...@my-dejanews.com" posting
since the December 5th picket is a Scientologist
who seems to be hatted to discredit me.
Please don't feed the imposter.
-Dav...@aol.com since 1993.
roger gonnet
Anonymous wrote:
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> Marie
> Associate Editor, Veritas
My problem is that I don't have the original papers ...
roger
Veritas
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Dear Mr. Gonnet,
You wrote:
>My problem is that I don't have the original papers ...
>
>roger
You don't have the original papers for what? Can you please be
more specific? I am happy to help if I can, but I cannot if you
are not specific about what you are looking for proof about.
By the way, I am sorry that my posts are appearing as being from
"Anonymous." We periodically have problems posting through
remailers. But all posts from Veritas are PGP signed, as this
one is, so you can always know whether it is an actual Veritas
post or a forgery. Our PGP key is available at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/veritaspgpkey.htm
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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Mike O'Connor
In article <19981222095251...@ngol07.aol.com>,
alz...@aol.comBrusSpt (ALZELT) wrote:
>the problem with warring factions is that you can't make it fit your needs and
>beliefs. there are those in Israel who would say that an Arab has a selective
>sense of right and wrong and religion. let's leave it as though you think it is
>ok for an Arab nation to bomb is Israel, while an Israeli has no such right.
>you cannot have it both ways. and solve the problem. each person's right is
>just as important.
>
>alan
>
>Alan
>
>The difference between being diplomatic and undiplomatic is the difference
>between saying "when I look at you, time stands still", and saying "your face
>would stop a clock". Anon
>
>Remove "BrusSpt" to send mail.
I never tried to reconcile the two. Again, I never once commented on
the right or wrong of the situation, only what was behind it. I also said
"they," not me, so any inference you are making is your own personal
prejudice of how an Arab thinks. As I said before, I am against any
violence, so really it doesn't matter much to me who starts it or continues
it. I don't think the Israelis have a right to bomb others, but neither do
I think that others have the right to bomb them, I don't view killing as a
right. If you want to get where my bias comes from, it's more from my
Christianity than my ethnic heritage: Christ died for every single soul on
earth, and that includes the "enemy," including the person being killed on
the battlefield or during the air raid, that is why I am against violence
toward others, I think they deserve the right to learn about Christ, or if
not, at least let God deal with them for good or evil and not humans. Every
single human has God-given dignity, and I am not one to snuff it out or to
condone that.
Ranee Mueller (remove redtape to reply)
gerry armstrong
> Garlic oil can be made in many differant ways. You can take peeled
> whole cloves of garlic and a few other seasonings and soak them in olive
> (or other types) oil, then use the oil as needed. Or you can roast the
> garlic first, for roast garlic oil.
>
> Rob.
OK, I'm sure many of you have already heard this but just in case:
Anaerobic bacteria exist in garlic. When you put garlic in an oxygen free
environment (submerged in oil) this bacteria grows. If enough of it grows
then you eat it you can get Botulism. Botulism is very bad. Garlic oils
are great and I don't want to discourage you from making them, just don't
store them. Make and eat.
Sean
David Gerard
:Feel Like I'm Fixing To Blow Rag
:And it's Oh, Tee, Three, why aren't we winnin' yet?
:Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Xenu.net.
:And it's five, six, seven,
:Open up the pearly gates,
:If Ron ain't lyin' we'll all be dyin'
:'Cause we heard of Xenu 'fore our time.
*applause*
So is anyone still maintaining an SP Songs page?
--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/ http://suburbia.net/~fun/scn/
"They also sell the visible cow and dog, complete with anatomically correct
removable bowels!" (John VerBurg concerning http://www.sciplus.com/)
jodyz
(paraphrased)
"Be an angel with the salt, and a demon with the pepper!"
I like the nice biceps I've developed from using the pepper mill. :)
If a large volume of ground pepper is necessary, I use my spice grinder
(little braun contraption) same as I do for all other spices. I'm a big
believer in keeping 'em whole as long as possible.
As far as the "mouse turds" go -- eh, get over it. :)
- Radha
PENMART10 <penm...@aol.com> wrote:
: In article <368db0b9...@news.pipeline.com>, (sf) writes:
:>I'm in your camp, more or less: I use a pepper grinder (salt grinder
:>too) on the table, but refuse to grind amounts of even 1/4 t to use in
:>something that's going to be cooked for any length of time. Spice
:>pungency doesn't hold up with long cooking and I don't think it's worth
:>the trouble to grind big amounts.
: You are correct.... BUT.... for any amount I would still rather grind
: my own pepper corns.... simply because I like to know who's in it.
: I don't trust pre-ground spices any more than I do pre-ground meats.
: BTW, it's a good idea to sort through pepper corns as you would beans... all
: them black thingies may not be pepper, the elongated ones could very easily be
: mouse turds.... the next time you pepper your food in that fancy-schmancy
: restaurant, you may wanna think twice about using that pepper shaker on the
: table, but also about that big ol' nasty pepper mill too.
: Sheldon
: ````````````
: On a recent Night Court rerun, Judge Harry Stone had a wonderful line:
: "I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out."
jodyz
Fast
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>
>Dear Fast,
>
>You wrote:
>
>>
>>Its hard to know the players without a scorecard, but isn't Veritas
>>the mouthpiece for the MacDonald et al group that had filed suit for
>>defamination against the Cof$, then torpedoed their own lawsuit by
>>insisting the judge had no jurisdiction?
>>
>
>It is an endless source of perplexed amusement to me why people
>simply INSIST on using usenet to make a public spectacle out of their
>ignorance on a variety of subjects.
>
<snip>
Ok, so I screwed up MacDonald with Mitchel. You seem mighty defensive
when all I was trying to say was that the Veritas group doesn't seemto
me to be a sock puppet for the cult. Did I get that right?
As far as the suit goes, I can't begin to express how stupid it was to
mix the defamation suit with the California Constitution (non) issue.
Where would be the harm in using the state courts to press the
defamation claim, and later go tilt at the windmills of history?
- Fast
Tilman Hausherr
>Gerry - before philosophizing any further, you should go to California and
>serve your sentence. That would once and for all handle the currently
>outstanding arrest warrants on you.
Why did L. Ron Hubbard not return to France to service HIS sentence?
--
Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
Clearwater pictures: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/4497/clearwater/index.html
Find broken links on your web site: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
Annoy scientology by buying books: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/bookstore.html
Veritas
Hash: SHA1
Dear Mr. Gonnet,
In message <369AEF5C...@worldnet.fr>, you wrote:
<SNIP OF GERRY ARMSTRONG'S FALSE ALLEGATIONS REGARDING VERITAS>
<SEE MY SEPARATE RESPONSE TO MR. ARMSTRONG>
>Meanwhile, we don't have any proofs of what the veritas site said.
>Do you have some other facts about this?
What "proof" do you seek that isn't on the Veritas web site itself?
Everything on our site is well documented there on the site. I cannot
comprehend what you mean. In fact, I begin to get the idea that you
have not even visited the site.
For instance, consider the page of our web site at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/cst/locsamples.htm
What "proof" do you need regarding Library of Congress
records, besides the records themselves, which are there on the site?
If you think they have been falsified, it is quite easy to Telnet to
the Library of Congress yourself (the same place we got them from),
and verify the records that we have reproduced on our web site.
Or consider the page at:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/cst/dba.htm
Every statement on that page, regarding who was "doing business as"
the "L. Ron Hubbard Library," and when, is thoroughly documented with
ACTUAL SCANS of the legal filings. It also shows who the papers were
filed with in Los Angeles, so anyone who wants even FURTHER confirmation
can go there and get copies, just like we did. What other "proof" do
you require?
Why don't you be more specific about what you find lacking for
"proof" on our site?
Or is it just that you've never bothered to LOOK at what is on the
site, which is why you plaint for "proof"?
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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Dear Mr. Armstrong,
In message <369ab2d5....@news.dowco.com>, you wrote:
<SNIP>
>It appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
>the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
>Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
>Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
>untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
>be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
>of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
If by "over there in Veritasland" you mean our web site, Veritas, then
The facts are:
http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/index.htm
For over a year I have made this same offer to others who have made
slyly derogatory remarks about the content of our site, and so far,
not one has come back with anything. We have not been called upon to
correct anything on our site. I wonder if you will be different.
I doubt it.
Meanwhile, I look forward to your honorable retraction of your false
statements regarding Veritas.
Sincerely,
Marie
Associate Editor, Veritas
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til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr).
From: The 1.1 Communications Company, Inc..
Wrote on the subject: Re: Slavery (was a letter to DM):
>In <77h8l2$r9q$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Lin...@internetdrive.com wrote:
>
>>Gerry - before philosophizing any further, you should go to California and
>>serve your sentence. That would once and for all handle the currently
>>outstanding arrest warrants on you.
>
>Why did L. Ron Hubbard not return to France to service HIS sentence?
Because he was just another coward scientologist, like the ones we have
here under anon or semi anon names and accounts :-)
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John D.
By: Didi Emmons
cheese/eggs, main dish, vegetables
8 oz dried rigatoni
2 tablespoon olive oil
3 cloves garlic; minced
1/2 bunch broccoli; cut into florets, (about
1 1/3 cup ricotta cheese; whole-milk or part-skim
3 oz gorgonzola; crumbled, (about 1/2 cup)
1 salt and pepper to taste
2 tomatoes; cut into 8 wedges each
1 cup grated parmesan cheese; or asiago cheese
Bring a large pot of boiling salted water to a boil. Add the pasta
and boil it, stirring occasionally, until it is just tender. Drain the
pasta and rinse it well with cold water.
In a large skillet, combine the olive oil and garlic over low heat.
Saute the garlic for 2 minutes or until the garlic releases its aroma
(do not let it brown). Turn up the heat and add the broccoli and 1
cup water. Cook the broccoli, uncovered, for 3 minutes or until most
of the water is evaporated.
Add the ricotta cheese and the Gorgonzola. Stir the sauce until it is
nearly smooth, and season it with salt and pepper.
In a bowl, combine the pasta, the cheese-broccoli sauce, the tomatoes,
and 2/3 cup or the Parmesan or Asiago cheese. Add more salt and
pepper to taste, if necessary. (At this point you can refrigerate the
mixture for baking later.)
Preheat the oven to 400°. Spoon the mixture into a 9-x-13-inch
casserole dish.
Sprinkle the remaining Parmesan cheese over the casserole. Bake the
casserole, uncovered, for 10 to 15 minutes (or a little longer if the
mixture has been refrigerated). Spoon the contents onto plates and
serve.
Recipe By : Didi Emmons, Vegetarian Planet
Serving Size : 4
Converted by MM_Buster v2.0m.
Yield: 4 servings
Prep Time: 00:00
John D.
Thetan Exterior
>
>
>Marie = GalleryGhost = Veritas = Mitchell/McDonald.
>
> Linda Sullivan
A real A=A=A=A, eh Linda?
Or is it A=B=C=D?
A better analogy would be Hubbard=Lucifer=Devil=Antichrist!
Thetan Exterior
PS-Say hello to Warren, Jean and Rhea for me.
gerry armstrong
>In article <369ab15e....@news.dowco.com>,
> arms...@dowco.com (gerry armstrong) wrote:
>
>snip
>
>Gerry - before philosophizing any further, you should go to California and
>serve your sentence. That would once and for all handle the currently
>outstanding arrest warrants on you.
Linda - What a delight to have you communicate to me, particularly by
addressing this subject, which is quite important to me. I'm glad to
know it's important to you too. Before I respond substantively,
however, please define for me what you mean when you say
"philosophizing."
I ask that because the term has two main and very different meanings.
It means, as an intransitive verb, reasoning as a philosopher,
reflecting or theorizing; or, doing the same thing but superficially.
When you answer, please let me know what philosophical writings of
mine you have read. $cientology personnel posting here, or discussing
me anywhere for that matter, have never before acknowledged my
reasoning, reflecting or philosophizing; but I will hold my being
touched in abeyance until you let me know.
I'm hoping you will respond so that I can be clear about what it is
you believe I'm doing that I should stop doing before I go to
California.
(c) Gerry Armstrong
Lin...@internetdrive.com
snip
> =46or instance, consider the page of our web site at:
What is this "=46or"??? Does this mean "=46" stands for the letter "F"?
> Sincerely,
> Marie
> Associate Editor, Veritas
Linda Sullivan
Lin...@internetdrive.com
Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
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I knew I had seen "=46or" this before.
A search on dejanews produced this result:
:>Subject: GalleryGhost - Demand for CST Documents
:>Author: Anonymous
:>Email: nob...@earth.wazoo.com
:>Date: 1998/09/15
:>Forums: alt.religion.scientology
:>Below is a Demand for Documents filed Friday, 11 September 1998 by the
:>Plaintiffs in Mitchell v. CST.
(snip)
:>=46or the purpose of determining the actual identities of the Trustees,
Marie = GalleryGhost = Veritas = Mitchell/McDonald.
Linda Sullivan
Lin...@internetdrive.com
Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
> Meanwhile, I look forward to your honorable retraction of your false
> statements regarding Veritas.
Oh Marie dearie!
Are you ever going to come out with the truth and nothing but the truth?!
Tell us about GalleryGhost and that mailbox in the Nevada desert! I am sure
Ted would still love to visit you.
> Sincerely,
> Marie
> Associate Editor, Veritas
Linda Sullivan
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."Einstein
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
Spiritual Research Workgroup
>In article <369ab15e....@news.dowco.com>,
> arms...@dowco.com (gerry armstrong) wrote:
>
>snip
>
>Gerry - before philosophizing any further, you should go to California and
>serve your sentence. That would once and for all handle the currently
>outstanding arrest warrants on you.
Hm. It seems that you are pro-SCN?
What's your ideas about the contradiction between the "free speech"
paragraph in Scientology's creed, and the court-settlement that
has been made with Gerry? (Plus David Mayo, and I don't know how
many others?)
The paragraph being (start fair use quote):
"We of the Church believe:
[...]
That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely,
to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write
upon the opinions of others;
[...]"
In this context, how would you define "inalienable"?
Do you think the inalienable right to talk and write about one's
opinions could and should be sold away?
Especially for dollar millions, paid by church members whose
intention was to finance flourishing orgs, whereas their money
has been used to finance court settlements which not only represent
a glaring creed-violation, but also expose the current church
membership as either illiterate or ignorant of their own most
basic agreements to the public perception on the whole planet?
How do you think these settlements enhanced the goals of SCN?
What exactly is the benefit which would justify spending so much
money AND violating the creed?
If these settlements had not happened yet but were just planned
and a majority vote were necessary to make them a reality - would
you vote pro or contra?
Why?
Heidrun Beer
Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
http://www.sgmt.at
Steve A
> In article <1999011223...@replay.com>,
> Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Dear Mr. Gonnet,
> snip
>
> > =46or instance, consider the page of our web site at:
>
> What is this "=46or"??? Does this mean "=46" stands for the letter "F"?
Got it in one. The number after the = sign is the ASCII value, in
hexadecimal, for the letter F. This normally gets used for
non-standard characters, such as the UK currency symbol (£).
> "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."Einstein
"Religion that claims to be Science is fraudulent" - Me.
--
Steve A, SP4++, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12,
pitiable little Dennie (plD) #1, non-Mintonista.
Banned by Windows 1984 ScienoSitter (2e+isp)
"Where don't they want you to go today?" - http://www.xenu.net
Enzo Piccone
> Dear Mr. Armstrong,
>
> In message <369ab2d5....@news.dowco.com>, you wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> >It appears that the work of Aceofclubs, the librarian and
> >the more specifically articulated of the goals over there in
> >Veritasland are to (1) black PR Robert Vaughn Young, (2) black PR
> >Gerry Armstrong and (3) get everyone else to believe that some
> >untouchable attorneys in CSTare responsible for whatever there is to
> >be responsible for and that David Miscavige is not responsible for any
> >of it. Didn't these entities try to rip up Jesse Prince too?
>
> If by "over there in Veritasland" you mean our web site, Veritas, then
> I cannot help but wonder why you would go to the trouble to lie about
> what is on our site.
>
> The facts are:
>
> 1. We do not now have, nor have we ever had, ANYTHING at all on our site
> regarding Robert Vaughn Young, much less any "black PR."
>
> 2. We do not now have, nor have we ever had, ANYTHING at all on our site
> regarding you--Gerry Armstrong--much less any "black PR."
>
> 3. We do not now have, nor have we ever had ANYTHING at all on our site
> regarding Jesse Prince, much less any "black PR."
Here are some other facts:
1. Anyone familiar with the RAC (Randy's [Randy McDonald] Anonymouse
Club) has perceived Ace to have been one of the RAC's
Anonymouseketeers.
Ace attacked Vaughn because he would not corroborate the RAC's
conspiracy theory, which includes the conviction that those in control
of the C of S are not those who obviously are in control of it.
Anonymouseketeer Ace became a snivelling boor. Finally exhausting
whatever acceptance/credibility he may have enjoyed on a.r.s. prior to
his snivelling, he blew.
But only to be replaced by the "You're not going to catch ME snivelling"
-- and even more boorish -- Boxing Anonymouseketeer.
(The incapacity of some of you folks to see past, or to get over, your
ser fac dramatisations is a sorry sight to behold.)
2. Anyone familiar with the RAC (Randy's [McDonald] Anonymouse Club) has
perceived the Librarian Anonymouseketeer to be its prurient, humorous
reach into a.r.s..
Am I to take it that a recent provocation of the Librarian caused Gerry
not to try slipping his hand into her barely showing panties, but to
slap her cute butt and walk off in a huff?
3. Anyone familiar with the RAC (Randy's [McDonald] Anonymouse Club)
perceives Veritas as but another of its efforts.
And while Anonymouseketeer Marie continues to promote the veracity of
its data, she continues as well to be oblivious to the fact that
Veritas' evaluation of this data appears to convince no one -- give or
take, perhaps, a few clueless newbies to this scene -- except those who
had already convinced themselves prior to finding it; i.e., the RAC,
itself.
>You, and everyone else reading this, are invited to go to our site at:
>
> http://www.clever.net/webwerks/veritas/index.htm
<snip>
I suggest you move Veritas to www.not-too-clever.net.
I also suggest that if either you or the Librarian would like Mr.
Armstrong to take your invitations/flirts under serious consideration,
you also remember to invite his pig.
In fact, why not make it a party and invite Gertie's pig and Grady?
Me, I hereby waive any proprietary rights I might otherwise claim to
what could become the modern, cyber version of "The Three Little Pigs."
E
--
Note: Correct e-mail address is en...@ermes.it.
roger gonnet
Evergene wrote:
> I just stopped in at rfc for the first time in a while, and I was
> delighted to see this from my own favorite deep thinker:
>
> > I have no intention of changing who I am, nor have I ever
> > asked anyone else to change who they are. I really don't
> > give a fiddlers fuck who reads, does not read, or is
> > incapable of reading my posts, nor do I care one fucking
> > cunt hair what anyone thinks, doesn't think, or if they
> > think.
> >
> > You wanna go post to post combat with me, I'll publicy slice
> > your puny mother fucking balls off and cram em up yer shit
> > chute.
>
> "Shit chutes" and "cunt hairs" and "balls"... Oh my!
>
> I've had my share of heated words with The Rough Tough Cream Puff, but
> I happen to think that for a semi-literate, homophobic, self-loathing,
> hypocritical pedant whose social and sexual development stopped at the
> age of 14, Sheldon's really not such a bad guy.
>
> If you want to have a discussion with Sheldon, here's a tip: The
> experience will be very much like trying to housebreak a retarded dog.
> Just when you think he's finally learned that he can't make his messes
> in the house, you step into a pile of his latest deposit and you
> realize, Oh no! I've been Sheldoned again! But what are you gonna do?
> Rub his nose in it? That won't work--he thinks it's a reward! You
> just gotta clean it up and know that he's trying his best.
>
> Sheldon, my dear friend, my rough tough cream puff, I take you at your
> word when you say:
>
> > I really don't
> > give a fiddlers fuck who reads, does not read, or is
> > incapable of reading my posts, nor do I care one fucking
> > cunt hair what anyone thinks, doesn't think, or if they
> > think.
>
> When I read that, Sheldon, I knew you wouldn't mind my posting this
> little homage to you. Don't ever change, buddy. Even if someday you
> can.
>
> And give me back my puny balls, dammit!
Why don't we just start trashing off everyone there is in this newsgroup
in alphabetical order and get it done with.
Is Sheldon such a fascinating topic to you, to start yet another threat?
Stefanie
Dave Bird
>In article <1999011223...@replay.com>,
> Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
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>
>:>=46or the purpose of determining the actual identities of the Trustees,
>
>
>Marie = GalleryGhost = Veritas = Mitchell/McDonald.
Likely, but not conclusive: the fact that the posts had a
capital F treated as an illegal character and turned into "=" +
numeric character value means they are ALL GOING THROUGH THE SAME
OR SIMILAR SERVER somewhere.
Maybe they all have accounts with some hole-in-a-corner "podunk.net"
whose news server does this to articles.
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Steve A
wrote:
[89 lines of his usual drivel]
Shame, Enzo. You'd started getting your drivel down to only a few
lines. Now you're downstat again.
Veritas
roger gonnet
not sure there is any top-of-the-line in cast iron.
Swarna Murthy (swa...@fullhouse.ebay.sun.com) wrote:
: Hello,
: Does anyone know where to get decent quality (not neccesaarily top of the
: line) cast iron skillets etc ??
: Any help will be appreaciated.
: Thanks,
: Swarna.
Thetan Exterior
thu...@waterw.com wrote:
> Venison only tastes "gamey" if you don't cut all of the fat you can off it.
> It's usually the fat that gives venison it's "gamey" taste. The only other
> two ways I can think of where you can ruin a good cut of venison is to
> process and store it wrong, or overcook it (venison, IMO tastes best when
> it's served still a bit rare). I've had venison dinners where I had a hard
> time distinguishing it from steak. Most people who don't like venison
> because they think it tastes "gamey" just never had a piece that was prepared
> properly.
>
> -Pete
>
> In article <19990112084249...@ng-ca1.aol.com>,
> jani...@aol.com (JANIC412) wrote:
> > To remove the gamey taste, you can also soak in milk for a few hours or
> > overnight. Prepare venison using recipes as you would use for beef.There are
> no
> > special recipes for venison. Jan
> >
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
I've never had venison with enough fat on it to trim!!!
Dolly
Dave Bird
Myra Shinkman wrote:
> Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
>
> : BTW, I've had fruit blintzes (Mmmm, Blueberry!) and cheese blintzes,
> : with fruit over them, but I've never had potato blintzes. It looks like
> : something you could make with leftover mashed potatoes.
>
> Funny, but I was an adult before I found out that people ate fruit-filled
> blintzes. My mother made three kinds - cheese, potato and kasha, all
> savory.
>
My mom made only cheese, which were always served with sour cream and (usually
frozen) strawberries. I've made duck blintzes, but I told my guests they were
eating crepes ;-)
Dave Bird
gerry armstrong
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:10:04 -0500, Beverly Rice <dbj...@iag.net>
wrote:
>gerry armstrong wrote:
>> jo...@myriad.net (John D.) wrote:
>
>> >Well, ok, I can think with that. Judging your "writings" by the famed
>> >"pig letter" (remember that one, Ger? ... the "I dreamed I want to
>> >fuck the talking pig" letter you wrote as an earlier example of your
>> >literary mastery), I can certainly understand why no rational human
>> >being would wish to receive mail from you.
>
>> The pig dream was not written as an earlier example of my literary
>> mastery. But you know that. And it is really stupid to judge
>> everything I might write by a dream recounted 14 years ago. Wouldn't
>> you call the person making this bigoted judgment a bigot?
>
>Actually, Co$ members, who only are able to absorb the psychotic
>ramblings of LRH, therefore being unable to understand and interpret
>dreams, don't realize the impact of the dream you recounted.
>
>Here it is . . . "TRUTH REVEALED"!! Be forwarned, reading this
>material before being adequately prepared for it can cause one to
>freewheel aimlessly (and even feel "squashed and spinny").
>
>*
>
>*
>
>*
>
>*
>
>The "PIG" represents L. Ron Hubbard!!!! F*cking the pig represents
>allowing one's mind to become one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>
>As known, from Co$ thinking they were harming you by printing the
>dream you recounted to them in confidence, it is well known that you
>did NOT f*ck the "PIG" (LRH), thus demonstrating you would not allow
>your mind to be made one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>
>However, it is quite obvious who all ~did~ f*ck the "PIG" (LRH).
>
>Can't figure out why Co$ members are unable to confront that
>truth.
>
>Beverly
This is extraordinary. Thank you Beverly. You see, $cientologists,
analysis isn't all that dangerous.
The moment I read your interpretation I recalled that in the dream I
had noticed, and in my recitation I had noted, the pig's staring
pink eyes. And I recalled that L. Ron Hubbard had most staring piggy
eyes of anyone I ever met. Hubbard's eyes were incredibly beady. Look
at them in some of his photos.
We are grateful to Ms. Chabot for bringing us Ms. Marple's insight
into what a shifty eye is. I wonder what is known about beady eyes.
They're pretty shifty too aren't they?
(c) Gerry Armstrong
Enzo Piccone
> In article <77js7o$4o7$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Lin...@internetdrive.com says...
> >
> >Marie = GalleryGhost = Veritas = Mitchell/McDonald.
> >
> > Linda Sullivan
>
> A real A=A=A=A, eh Linda?
Nope. Just looks like a bit of speculation seeking either confirmation
and/or to provoke.
> Or is it A=B=C=D?
I've heard rumour that one is allowed three tries on a.r.s.. Perhaps
you should have taken a third before giving up?
Btw, and for a.r.s. writers/readers who don't actually understand what
is meant by the term, ~a=a=a~, the ~a's~ stand for ~anything~:
anything=anything=anything. In other words, the person is equating
anything to anything else.
For example, the words you are now reading are ants running across your
screen, and as they're running from left to right, you should hold up
your right hand and wave it to the cat in front of you, who's waving
madly at you.
You don't have a cat waving madly at you? Way cool. Then you're not
having the difficulty our anony poster was experiencing.
You ~do~ have a cat waving madly at you? Wave madly back!
A person engaging in a=a=a, then, is someone who has given the rest of
the day off, as it were, to his ability to differentiate.
> A better analogy would be Hubbard=Lucifer=Devil=Antichrist!
No, this wouldn't be an analogy at all, let alone a better one. But it
is an a=a. (Yes, those of us who know what the term means usually use
only two ~a's~.)
Look up ~analogy~ and/or ~=~. While you're at it, you might also want
to look up ~redundant~.
> Thetan Exterior
Thetan's Posterior, can't you even get your anonyname right? Sheesh!
> PS-Say hello to Warren, Jean and Rhea for me.
No can do. But if it'll make you a happier person, I'll say hello to
Jack (my cat).
Lin...@internetdrive.com
PEPSIgal wrote:
>
> Tongue in cheek I hope!
> As far as hungry jack/burger king burgers are concerned I can not stand
> them. They taste like cardboard to me. I used to like the bacon double
> cheese burger but it is terrible now also. I must say that in Australia at
> least, McDonalds meat does taste allot better. At least it isnt smokey and
> burnt tasting.
>
> PEPSIgal
But, but... Why would anyone eat at these places in Oz when they
could have an egg and beetroot hamburger?
Charlie
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Charlie
I never heard of that!
Pigs (especially in blankets) are frankfurters wrapped in
biscuit (USian) dough and baked.
They are not to be confused with that other delicacy
toad in the hole.
So there you go. Now you go ahead and retract your lies!
Charlie
gerry armstrong wrote:
(p & m)
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:10:04 -0500, Beverly Rice <dbj...@iag.net>
wrote:
>gerry armstrong wrote:
>> jo...@myriad.net (John D.) wrote:
>
>> >Well, ok, I can think with that. Judging your "writings" by the famed
>> >"pig letter" (remember that one, Ger? ... the "I dreamed I want to
>> >fuck the talking pig" letter you wrote as an earlier example of your
>> >literary mastery), I can certainly understand why no rational human
>> >being would wish to receive mail from you.
>
>> The pig dream was not written as an earlier example of my literary
>> mastery. But you know that. And it is really stupid to judge
>> everything I might write by a dream recounted 14 years ago. Wouldn't
>> you call the person making this bigoted judgment a bigot?
>
>Actually, Co$ members, who only are able to absorb the psychotic
>ramblings of LRH, therefore being unable to understand and interpret
>dreams, don't realize the impact of the dream you recounted.
>
William Barwell
gerry armstrong <arms...@dowco.com> wrote:
>(p & m)
>
>On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:10:04 -0500, Beverly Rice <dbj...@iag.net>
>wrote:
>>
>>The "PIG" represents L. Ron Hubbard!!!! F*cking the pig represents
>>allowing one's mind to become one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>As known, from Co$ thinking they were harming you by printing the
>>dream you recounted to them in confidence, it is well known that you
>>did NOT f*ck the "PIG" (LRH), thus demonstrating you would not allow
>>your mind to be made one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>However, it is quite obvious who all ~did~ f*ck the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>Can't figure out why Co$ members are unable to confront that
>>truth.
>>
>>Beverly
>
>This is extraordinary. Thank you Beverly. You see, $cientologists,
>analysis isn't all that dangerous.
>
>The moment I read your interpretation I recalled that in the dream I
>had noticed, and in my recitation I had noted, the pig's staring
>pink eyes. And I recalled that L. Ron Hubbard had most staring piggy
>eyes of anyone I ever met. Hubbard's eyes were incredibly beady. Look
>at them in some of his photos.
>
>We are grateful to Ms. Chabot for bringing us Ms. Marple's insight
>into what a shifty eye is. I wonder what is known about beady eyes.
>They're pretty shifty too aren't they?
>
When Ron was in the navy, he ended upa few times in sick bay with
conjunctivitus, he was a chronic sufferer. He later would claim,
based on this, to have been "almost blind" at the end or WWII.
Piggy little pinkeye suffering eyes...
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!
Lisa Chabot
>>The "PIG" represents L. Ron Hubbard!!!! F*cking the pig represents
>>allowing one's mind to become one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>As known, from Co$ thinking they were harming you by printing the
>>dream you recounted to them in confidence, it is well known that you
>>did NOT f*ck the "PIG" (LRH), thus demonstrating you would not allow
>>your mind to be made one with the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>However, it is quite obvious who all ~did~ f*ck the "PIG" (LRH).
>>
>>Can't figure out why Co$ members are unable to confront that
>>truth.
>>
>>Beverly
>
>This is extraordinary. Thank you Beverly. You see, $cientologists,
>analysis isn't all that dangerous.
>
>The moment I read your interpretation I recalled that in the dream I
>had noticed, and in my recitation I had noted, the pig's staring
>pink eyes. And I recalled that L. Ron Hubbard had most staring piggy
>eyes of anyone I ever met. Hubbard's eyes were incredibly beady. Look
>at them in some of his photos.
>
>We are grateful to Ms. Chabot for bringing us Ms. Marple's insight
>into what a shifty eye is. I wonder what is known about beady eyes.
>They're pretty shifty too aren't they?
I'm not sure...I guess I'd better spend the weekend reading
Agatha Christie again! (Twist my arm! Please!)
One thing, though--on the A&E program they had those weird colorized
clips of L Ron Hubbard talking. Other than wondering if his teeth
and mouth interior were really that peculiar blue color, I thought:
those are not the mouth movements of someone telling the truth.
Anyone--did L Ron Hubbard really squirm his lips around like that?
Yucky! Perhaps I'm only unjustly criticizing someone suffering from
toothache--excuse me, I mean pre-natal engrams--but it looked like
he was trying to let the words escape from one side of his mouth
or the other, but not straight out. I would not buy a used car
from such a person, let alone previously owned dogma.
.
. just the suspicious type!
.
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gerry armstrong
> turned out perfectly plump.
Along with the other suggestions you have received which were:
You may be boiling them too long, Your yeast may be inactive and needs to be
proofed to check, The Flour in NZ is coarser than the more refined products
in America NZ/OZ often have 'self-raising' flour (this means that they add
1tsp baking soda AND 1tsp baking powder per cup of flour) And that there is
too much yeast for an American recipe.
All of these things all rolled into one package may equate to your problem.
I am a North American who has been battling my cookbooks in NZ for two years
- I have thrown out umteen cakes due to them being solid masses of goop - for
several of the reasons listed above combined. The recipes I have obtained
for my breadmaker were written in Australia, and they include alot more yeast
than I would ever have used in Canada. It's still hit and miss, but now it
is more hit than miss - I add more bkg soda/pdr or get self raising... in
breads I add only 3tsp sure-bake or 1/5-2tsp true yeast per 2lb loaf...
Best of luck
Julie
Lin...@internetdrive.com
Frank <fa...@specter.net> wrote in article
<369cd13a...@supernews.spectra.net>...
> On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:23:36 GMT, "frank <SFA>"
> <fr...@tgarturo.claranet.co.uk> wrote, a bit
> disparagingly I thought:
> >You fish don't need catching, old chap
> >They're all jumping into your lap
> >What fun can there be
> >When you go out to sea
> >You might as well angle with crap
> >-----
> >Sweet FA...knowing that the sweetest fish are harder to catch ;)
> Can it be that I'm feeling bad
> Coz young SFA seems so sad?
> He tries to sound droll
> Alone on his troll.
> If that's what you think then you're mad. :-)
>
> Frank ( hoping the ladies don't treat Sweet too badly)
>
Sweet FA found a new fishing hole,
And thought surely he'd rack up a goal-
But it isn't the lure
That will success assure-
It's how a man handles his pole!!!! ;-)
P.S.----
We're the sweetest fish you've ever seen,
To imply that we aren't is so mean----
Or are you just jealous
Of Frank's fishing prowess?
Must be envy that's turning you green!!!!! ;-)
(did I treat him too badly, Frank?)
--
To life, and love, and laughter,
Kaylin
--
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Kaylin
Dave Bird
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> In <369E8210...@wam.umd.edu> "J.C. Thorson"
> <jtho...@wam.umd.edu> writes:
>
> >I would think that a cast iron wok would be too heavy.
>
> Too heavy for what?
>
> JT
Me, I have a big wok because I use it for cooking for large groups and
small, and I have been know to pick the bugger up with one hand to get
it nearer the dishes (I have a kitchen with almost no counter space, so
much shifting is required for serving). I use, and love, cast iron fry
pans, but even the largest one is smaller than my wok. A cast iron wok
would be too heavy for me to lift and hold over plates as I served.
YMMV.
Jennifer
Dave Bird
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It is a bouquet of herbs and spices. Usually tied in a cloth (cheese).
Put into a pot to season and able to remove after.
I dont think there is a rule of what to put in. But that's the beauty of
cooking.
They are usually whole like peppercorns, bay leaves, fresh dill etc. Its
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Tommy
>I have just received a smoker for Xmas and I am looking for any recipes
>that anyone may be willing to share.
>
>Please help if you can.
>
>Thanks
>Mike
Couple of things to do. Pick up Smoke & Spice by the Jamisons. It is one of
the best BBQ books around. Visit www.bbq-porch.org for the FAQ and much
other information. You can also visit my web page for a couple of links,
including the BBQ mailing list.
Ed
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http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Tommy
roger gonnet
(Panda929) writes:
>I take celery and onion and boil that with some of the broth, Cook until
Why do you need to 'take' the celery and onions, can't you afford to pay for
them?
>tender. Then pour it over your bread crumbs, add salt, pepper and butter and
>put into a greased pan. Makes delicious stuffing.
>
>I have put both celery and onion in the turkey cavity. Flavors go through.
>Takes Great!
^^^^^^^^
Are you gene(take)ly challenged?
Sheldon
````````````
On a recent Night Court rerun, Judge Harry Stone had a wonderful line:
"I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out."
gerry armstrong
J.C. Thorson wrote:
> I've had that wok for six months now, and it gets used for everything
> from the traditional stir fry to making soup. It is the most versatile
> pot I own, I wouldn't have a kitchen without one.
>
> Anyone else have an item that must be in their kitchen?
Several.....A wok is a must have. I use my food processor all the time
(especially for onions, they do a number on me and I can't stand to cut
them), my steamer is great for fresh veggies. And though its not used for
cooking.....I absolutely cannot live without my diswasher!
Regards,
-Treelo
>
>
> Jennifer
Anonymous
PENMART10 wrote:
> ...
> >[-]>I have no intention of changing who I am...
Not surprising.
Mature people should simply ignore him and stop responding to his infantile
requests for attention, and perhaps he'll bother another newsgroup.
Let's try to be friendly and cooperative, and once again *I'll* be the crankiest
person in this newsgroup ;-)
gerry armstrong
In article <19981222095251...@ngol07.aol.com>,
alz...@aol.comBrusSpt (ALZELT) wrote:
>the problem with warring factions is that you can't make it fit your needs and
>beliefs. there are those in Israel who would say that an Arab has a selective
>sense of right and wrong and religion. let's leave it as though you think it is
>ok for an Arab nation to bomb is Israel, while an Israeli has no such right.
>you cannot have it both ways. and solve the problem. each person's right is
>just as important.
>
>alan
>
>Alan
>
>The difference between being diplomatic and undiplomatic is the difference
>between saying "when I look at you, time stands still", and saying "your face
>would stop a clock". Anon
>
>Remove "BrusSpt" to send mail.
I never tried to reconcile the two. Again, I never once commented on
the right or wrong of the situation, only what was behind it. I also said
"they," not me, so any inference you are making is your own personal
prejudice of how an Arab thinks. As I said before, I am against any
violence, so really it doesn't matter much to me who starts it or continues
it. I don't think the Israelis have a right to bomb others, but neither do
I think that others have the right to bomb them, I don't view killing as a
right. If you want to get where my bias comes from, it's more from my
Christianity than my ethnic heritage: Christ died for every single soul on
earth, and that includes the "enemy," including the person being killed on
the battlefield or during the air raid, that is why I am against violence
toward others, I think they deserve the right to learn about Christ, or if
not, at least let God deal with them for good or evil and not humans. Every
single human has God-given dignity, and I am not one to snuff it out or to
condone that.
Ranee Mueller (remove redtape to reply)
Dave Bird
<lscdot...@netcom.com> writes
>>We are grateful to Ms. Chabot for bringing us Ms. Marple's insight
>>into what a shifty eye is. I wonder what is known about beady eyes.
>>They're pretty shifty too aren't they?
>
>I'm not sure...I guess I'd better spend the weekend reading
>Agatha Christie again! (Twist my arm! Please!)
Well, I might be persuaded to finish
"Hercule Barmpot: Muddle on the Nile".....
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Dave Bird
>Excellent prime rib method of slow cooking. Would it work for a turkey as
>well?
>
>Jim
It will cook the meat but not crisp the skin. Turkey is tender to start
with so the slow cooking does not help it much. Go for at least 300
degrees.
Ed
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Tommy
writes:
>On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:24:17 -0000, "PeterW"
><Pet...@lims.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>John Cullings:
>>
>>>I can't remember the middle lines of this old saw and am so am posting
>>>what I remember in hopes someone can fill in the rest for me Please
>>>
>>>there was a young man from Kent
>>>whose dick was so long it was bent
>>>*****
>>>*****
>>>instead of coming he went
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>no problem, john
>>
>>there was a young man from kent
>>whose dick was so long it was bent
>> by that fucking machine
>> that the man from racine
>>for amusement had filled with cement
>>
>>er ... over to you MrMalo
>>
>>---
>>Peter ;-)
>>
>
>I intercepted the pass to MrMalo
>
>There once was a young man from Kent
>Whose dick was so long that in bent
> He moved to Nantucket
> But no one would suck it
>They'd given up blowjobs for Lent.
>
>commin' atcha MrMalo
>
>Frank
>
There once was a young man from Kent
Whose dick was so long that it bent
Into the dank cave
Of dead whore fucking Dave
another dollar best went unspent!
Arden...the key lime pie kid...8-P
Dave Bird
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>
>Hi
>Looking for recipes for fish balls
>Thanks
>JJ
would that be Norwegian or Jewish? both killed well with horseradish.
Alan
The difference between being diplomatic and undiplomatic is the difference
between saying "when I look at you, time stands still", and saying "your face
would stop a clock". Anon
Remove "FinnFan" to send mail.
jodyz
Dave Bird
"C.L. Gifford" wrote:
>
> Monika, you have a Mexican Grocery in your area don't you? I have
> thought that perhaps queso fresca would work well as a substitute
> for farmer's cheese and probably taste better too.
>
Why didn't I think of this before? Thanks Charlie, next time I locate a
Mexican Grocery store (which maybe a major task where I live), I will
check it for fresh cheese. Anybody knows where I can find a Mexican
store in Boston area? I know where I can find Portuguese or Brazilian
food, Armenian and Japanese but not Mexican. :-(
Monika
roger gonnet
>I got a juice extractor for Christmas and can't wait to use it, but
>unfortunately the manual contained no recipes.
>
>Anyone know any?
>
>I imagine you just put celery and carrots, or various fruits, but what
>proportions - or does it matter.
>
>Help
I love mine, treat yours well and you should to.
The recipes are really free form, I generally stick with carrot and add a
little beet or apple, it's surprisingly good either way. Mostly keep it simple
and you won't be disappointed. The only thing that doesn't work real well would
be softer fruits especially citrus. This is best juiced by hand.
Enjoy,
Chumley The Happy Clown
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P.S. My classic example was the King's royal deer as property slain by a starving
serf for food and so the serf's life is not an equivalent. I'd say that if a
sportsman slayed a deer for mere fun, then he owes the deer his own life for
taking the deer's life. (Few would agree with me on that one, but that's how I'd
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Leesa wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:29:06 GMT, "GlowBee" <Glo...@email.com> took
> pen in hand and scribed:
>
> >I recently ate at a restaraunt in Los Angeles called Chevy's. It is a
> >Mexican chain restaraunt with pretty good food. With almost every plate,
> >they also served a scoop of this sweet corn / masa. Does anyone have a
> >recipe for this?
> >
> >TIA,
> >/* A flash of light in the dark */
> >GlowBee
> >
> I don't have a specific recipe, but I did work at Chevy's once upon a
> time, and I know the basic ingredients:
> canned corn
> corn meal
> small bit of flour
> olive oil
> honey
>
> I'm pretty sure that's it. They just mix & bake it for about 20 min.
> in a 350 or so oven. Hope that helps--you can usually mess around
> with it and get the right combos.
> Leesa
*Canned* corn? Really? What happened to Chevy's much vaunted
"Fresh-Mex" "No cans, ever" stance?
Looks like the secret ingredient is honey. It's worth a try,
for me, at least.
kat
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>(laugh!) And, I know what fugly means, in case you thought I missed
>that.
>
>nancy
Would you care to share for us 'uns what don't know? If it's what I think it
is, it can't be, because what I'm thinkin' ain't ugly, no way!!!
roger gonnet
Snip
>
>Finally, there is more than one gradation of sharp. There is "really sharp"
>as in razor sharp. Then there is "sharp for most people" for lack of a
>better definition, and then we move into multiple dull catagories which
ends
>with the "blunt instrument" classification.
Some of us that are doing woodwork have adopted a term called "scary sharp".
Dave Bird
moosemeat wrote:
>
> > .
> > Tillamook butter is the cheapest priced cheese sold at the Vons
> > supermarket I shop in. .
>
> I'm working on this but the exact meaning still eludes me-butter-cheese????
> Are we confused or what?
Yes - I was anyway. I of course meant that "Tillamook butter is
the cheapest priced BUTTER sold....." I guess that when I think
Tillamook, I think of cheese and, of course, a very pretty area
of country.
Charlie, red of face
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>
> Hi there!
>
> In article <19990116191016...@ng134.aol.com>,
> lapca...@aol.com (LapCat1234) wrote:
>
> > a shot of Kalhua
> > a shot of Irish Wiskey.
> > coffee
> > sugar
> > Lemon slices
> > whipped cream
> >
> > They are usually made in an Irish coffee cup. Tall, thin and footed. Line
> the
> > rim of the glasses with lemom juice from the slices. Dip in sugar and using a
> > tabletop sterno stove or the flame from a gass oven. Turn the glasses around
> > the flame to carmalize the sugar. Then add the Kahlua to one glass and the
> > Irish Whiskey to the other. Tilt the glass and scoop some flame into the
> > liquor. Twirl it around and then toss from one glass to the other. When the
> > flame goes out, pour in the coffee and top with whipped cream. Delicious!
>
> This sounds like it would taste wonderful!
>
> ...Just so you don't expect to find it done this way in most Irish pubs when
> you get over here some day. The lemon slices will seriously raise people's
> eyebrows, and if you ask for Kahlua in it, most barmen will look at you like
> you came from Mars. And hardly anyone whips the cream. And I've never seen
> any part of the drink be set on fire, or anything caramelized.
>
> That said, this *still* sounds super...I'm going to give it a try.
>
> Best! - Diane
>
> Peter Morwood & Diane Duane / The Owl Springs Partnership
> Co. Wicklow, Ireland / http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~owls/index2.html
> Irish recipes at:
> http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~owls/european_cuisines_west_atl.htm#Irish
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Speaking of raised eyebrows, I had to wait 4 hours for a flight
that had "technical difficulties" at Shannon Airport. While
waiting I made the best use of my time by drinking Guinness. The
barman in the lounge got me to try a Guinness with a jigger of
Kahlua in it. I don't like messing with Guinness, but it was very
good! He called it a Limerick. Kahlua must be a Limerick thing.
Charlie
<><
Lisa Chabot
> Well, I might be persuaded to finish
>"Hercule Barmpot: Muddle on the Nile".....
Yes, please!
.
.
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>>Well, I would think Arabs are a race, since they aren't all Moslem.
>I
>>suspect there are even some Jewish Arabs!
>>
>Sure. Those Jews born in Arab speaking countries are Arabs, and some
>are quite proud of the Arab part of their backrounds. But that
>doesn't make "Arab" a race. It is a linguistic classification --
>comparable to English speakers.
>
>Zvi the Fiddler
>
I think that "Arab", if anything, means a person from Arabia. A person is
Iranian if they are from Iran, Israilie if from Israel, etc.
If you want to call somebody a nice person, call them a nice person. If you
want to call them a jerk, call them a jerk.
Lets not use the A word like anti-simites use the K word, or the KKK uses
the N word, etc. Lets not stoop to their level.
Lets be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.
>
>
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roger gonnet
John Welchman. It covers recipes from Thailand, Bali, Singapore, Vietnam,
etc. I am *really* impressed with it (I love it) the authors are James Beard
award-winning. I believe they are an American couple, who live in Australia
and travel throughout Asia for food experiences and recipes. I would assume
Amazon has it, or B & N.
There is (what appears to be) a very nice recipe for roast leg of lamb served
sliced with a thai red curry/coconut sauce. There is also a fig and tamarind
chutney for lamb. I will post these separately under this thread, so anyone
who chooses to ignore can do so, as it will be a bit lengthy.
While I have not made the above, I have made many other foods from this
book, mostly starters or finger (hawker) foods. They may also work with your
tapas theme. Two I really like are Shrimp and Shitake Ravioli with
Lemongrass-Lime oil (not 100% authentic but very good) and Lemon Beef
Salad served in cucumber shells or lettuce parcels w/ Thai dipping sauce.
The lemon beef is full of flavor.
wendy/WAM
roger gonnet
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