Desmond's Honesty (was: Roger Coleman)
St.George
Desmond Coughlan <des...@lievre.voute.net> wrote in message
news:slrn89lfkh....@lievre.voute.net...
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 03:04:55 -0000, St.George <st_george99@***hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
<snip>
> Debate is never futile, Mark. I should like to know why I am suspected
> of posting under someone else's name. I assume you're referring to the
> donni...@my-deja.com posts, as they were made using a French NNTP
> server. Know that for me to do so, I would have to use a dial-up modem,
> or a shell account at Club-Internet. I no longer have a modem attached
> to my server, and Club-Internet does not offer shell accounts (the other
> possibility would be for me to have paid for a second account with Club-
> Internet, but only Drewl is obsessive enough to do that). So unless
> you can tell me how I achieved the impossible, then all you do have is
> speculation. Harmless? No, because you are making allegations without
> proof, and then simply saying, 'Well, we have no proof, so forget it.'
>
> I don't want to forget it, because I have standards to which I adhere,
> and to which I have adhered since my very first post to this newsgroup,
> back when only John Spragge, Mitchell Holman, and Dan Hogg were here.
>
> Those standards include not lying, and anyone who accuses me of
> doing otherwise should have the decency either to provide proof, or
> retract and apologise. I don't expect Trinity or Lucas ('I'm-so-sassy')
> Stults to have that much moral backbone, but I expected better from you.
I have consistently, and on several occasions, defended you against charges
of dishonesty by Trinity and Lucas (among others). This was chiefly on the
technicality that I didn't believe that your dishonesty was topical enough
to be judged by me as serious.
However, since you have chosen to impugn both my veracity and my morality
above, I no longer feel compelled to defend you - especially in the light of
the holier-than-thou attitude that you have adopted recently with respect to
your supposed whiter-than-white purity of truth.
Apart from the issue of the forging of posts, let me go on record as saying
that I give your 900+ emails claim precisely the level of credibility that I
give to Jigsaw's Escambia County claim. It is well noted by me that you
entirely failed to respond to my questions regarding this in your Friday
morning post - preferring instead to snip and ignore that entire topic.
However, once again, this is merely a suspicion (although an immensely
strong one). Above, you challenge me to provide proof positive of your
dishonesty.
I have this proof, Desmond.
It is unambiguous, undoubted, and in your own hand, and I believe it is in
the public interest (of the newsgroup readers) to realise that your
protestations of honesty, repeated over and over, are not true. Despite
this, I am still going to respect your confidentiality, and I will not
publish any part of any email until given explicit permission by its writer.
I will also not honour any requests for copies from third parties.
So Desmond, you have the choice - simply deny my claims, and attempt to ride
them out, or defend yourself against the specific accusation, by allowing me
to post it - either the full email, or the relevant paragraph only; and with
or without headers as you see fit. Should you choose to ride it out, nobody
else will ever learn the specifics of the claim.
I do not believe that this is what I would describe as a serious lie - as I
do not believe your alleged post-forging and 900+ email claims are serious.
I have absolutely no reason to believe that you are guilty of the serious,
topical and wilful dishonesty that I have no hesitation in ascribing to
McDonald, Sharp and Jigsaw, which renders them without value as far as death
penalty debate is concerned.
Therefore, I have no wish to see you leave the newsgroup, Desmond, but since
you see fit to question my integrity, and consistently lie to the other
readers of the newsgroup, I feel that you have brought this on yourself.
Mark
Trinity
<st_george99@***hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have consistently, and on several occasions, defended you against charges
> of dishonesty by Trinity and Lucas (among others). This was chiefly on the
> technicality that I didn't believe that your dishonesty was topical enough
> to be judged by me as serious.
>
> However, since you have chosen to impugn both my veracity and my morality
> above, I no longer feel compelled to defend you - especially in the light of
> the holier-than-thou attitude that you have adopted recently with respect to
> your supposed whiter-than-white purity of truth.
Mark my friend, you've come to finally realize exactly what I've been
trying to tell you about Des for months. There's absolutely no way to
treat him with kindness or respect, because he is incapable of
returning those gestures.
Sure, when he's been terminally embarrassed he'll go for a few days
wherein he kisses the ass of a few people, trying to appear rational.
But just like a stray dog, the second you let your guard down he lunges
straight for your throat.
Desmond Coughlan
> > I have consistently, and on several occasions, defended you against charges
> > of dishonesty by Trinity and Lucas (among others). This was chiefly on the
> > technicality that I didn't believe that your dishonesty was topical enough
> > to be judged by me as serious.
> >
> > However, since you have chosen to impugn both my veracity and my morality
> > above, I no longer feel compelled to defend you - especially in the light of
> > the holier-than-thou attitude that you have adopted recently with respect to
> > your supposed whiter-than-white purity of truth.
> Mark my friend, you've come to finally realize exactly what I've been
> trying to tell you about Des for months. There's absolutely no way to
> treat him with kindness or respect, because he is incapable of
> returning those gestures.
LOL ... please remind us all of the occasion(s) on which you tried to
'treat [me] with kindness or respect', Trinity.
Since your arrival on this newsgroup, your sole aim appears to have
been to obsess over me. If you weren't obviously a lot brighter, I'd
think that you were another of Drewl's personae.
[remainder of Trinity's 'ignoring' me, snipped]
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