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Charles Trew

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Nov 8, 2002, 9:00:28 AM11/8/02
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Desmond Coughlan (pasdespa...@zeouane.org) writes:
> Friends, This post is addressed to all those who value life, and who have=
> a
> desire to protect it, but due to the open nature of usenet, I am aware th=
> at
> deathies will see it, too.=20=20
>
> With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
> bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), i=
> t was
> perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consid=
> er the
> wide influence that France, my belov=E8d France, is having upon events ac=
> ross the
> planet.


Yes. And today at the UN France is set to vote with the US for a
resolution on Iraq.
I look forward to cheap gasoline and natural gas next year once the US
army occupies and adminsters the Iraqi oil fileds.
Thank you France!!!



JIGSAW1695

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From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 11/8/2002 11:13 AM Eastern Standard Time
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le 8 Nov 2002 14:00:28 GMT, dans l'article <aqgg1s$9h4$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
Charles Trew <db...@freenet.carleton.ca> a dit ...

{ snip }

>> With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
>> bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), i=
>> t was
>> perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consid=
>> er the
>> wide influence that France, my belov=E8d France, is having upon events ac=
>> ross the
>> planet.

> Yes. And today at the UN France is set to vote with the US for a
> resolution on Iraq.
> I look forward to cheap gasoline and natural gas next year once the US
> army occupies and adminsters the Iraqi oil fileds.
> Thank you France!!!

You are welcome, Charles. Once we had successfully calmed the warmongering
ardour of George 'Election ? What Election ?' Bush, and 'insured' (sic)
that only legitimate action by the United Nations would be used, we hereby
allow the United States to get off her knees. Oh, and you can stop sucking,
now.


Desmond Coughlan
===============================

Dezi...Dezi...Dezi.... you poor innocent child. You just dont get it do you.

Bush forced the UN to do something about it. He was prepared for war, but
procrastinated. He could a strike any time he wanted to.

Instead he used the your own fears to do our bidding.

The Americans win another one through seemingly innocent stupidy. Bush's goal
was to get the weapons inspectors back into Iraq with unrestricted inspection
rights.

It looks like he has achieved that goal though the political manipulation of
other States.

Go ahead and keep thinking were a stupid Dezi.

ROTFLMAO.

Jigsaw

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: France The Mighty
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 11/8/2002 12:07 PM Eastern Standard Time
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le 08 Nov 2002 16:59:20 GMT, dans l'article
<20021108115920...@mb-ms.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...

{ snip }

>> You are welcome, Charles. Once we had successfully calmed the warmongering
>> ardour of George 'Election ? What Election ?' Bush, and 'insured' (sic)
>> that only legitimate action by the United Nations would be used, we hereby
>> allow the United States to get off her knees. Oh, and you can stop sucking,
>> now.

> Dezi...Dezi...Dezi.... you poor innocent child. You just dont get it do you.


>
> Bush forced the UN to do something about it. He was prepared for war, but
> procrastinated. He could a strike any time he wanted to.
>
> Instead he used the your own fears to do our bidding.
>
> The Americans win another one through seemingly innocent stupidy. Bush's goal
> was to get the weapons inspectors back into Iraq with unrestricted inspection
> rights.
>
> It looks like he has achieved that goal though the political manipulation of
> other States.
>
> Go ahead and keep thinking were a stupid Dezi.

And in English ?


Desmond Coughlan
===============================
LOL.... I always appreciated humor from abroad! (well, most of the time. I find
German humor to be somewhat strange however.

Tim Drake

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Friends, This post is addressed to all those who value life, and who have a
desire to protect it, but due to the open nature of usenet, I am aware that
deathies will see it, too.

With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,

bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), it
was
perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consider
the
wide influence that France, my belovčd France, is having upon events across
the
planet.

Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the United
States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.

I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.

But you will not, Desi.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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>Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:06:14 +0000
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>le 08 Nov 2002 19:02:24 GMT, dans l'article
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><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>> LOL.... I always appreciated humor from abroad!
>

>Yes, humour in women is important, I agree ...
>
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In article <qvqgqa....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:07:06 +0000


>
>le 08 Nov 2002 16:59:20 GMT, dans l'article

><20021108115920...@mb-ms.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695


><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>>> You are welcome, Charles. Once we had successfully calmed the
>warmongering
>>> ardour of George 'Election ? What Election ?' Bush, and 'insured' (sic)
>>> that only legitimate action by the United Nations would be used, we hereby
>>> allow the United States to get off her knees. Oh, and you can stop
>sucking,
>>> now.
>
>> Dezi...Dezi...Dezi.... you poor innocent child. You just dont get it do
>you.
>>
>> Bush forced the UN to do something about it. He was prepared for war, but
>> procrastinated. He could a strike any time he wanted to.
>>
>> Instead he used the your own fears to do our bidding.
>>
>> The Americans win another one through seemingly innocent stupidy. Bush's
>goal
>> was to get the weapons inspectors back into Iraq with unrestricted
>inspection
>> rights.
>>
>> It looks like he has achieved that goal though the political manipulation
>of
>> other States.
>>
>> Go ahead and keep thinking were a stupid Dezi.
>
>And in English ?
>

>--
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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>Subject: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:18:42 +0000
>
>Friends, This post is addressed to all those who value life, and who have=
> a


>desire to protect it, but due to the open nature of usenet, I am aware th=
>at
>deathies will see it, too.=20=20
>

>With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,

>bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), i=
>t was
>perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consid=
>er the
>wide influence that France, my belov=E8d France, is having upon events ac=
>ross the
>planet. Imagine my surprise upon conceiving of this post, to go to buy =
>my
>paper, and to note in _Figaro_ magazine [1], an article entitled, 'France=
> and
>Francophonie'. It would appear that great minds do indeed think alike, a=
>nd
>that (to judge by the recent crop of obsessive, semen-drenched, 'look-at-=
>me-
>desi!' public ejaculations from the pit-dwelling, snake-haired scum) fool=
>s
>seldom differ.=20=20
>
>For those of us privileged enough to live in this rich and fertile land, =
>this
>Bless=E8d Realm, this Republic where wine and cheese flow like honey, and=
> where
>flaxen-haired beauties walk through our lives as if in the living dreams =
>of
>elves, our freedoms are many, and our restrictions are few. No one who d=
>wells
>within these fair shores, need fear his government, nor fear discriminati=
>on
>based on his sex, creed, colour, sexuality, or ethnic origin. Verily, fr=
>eedom
>of expression and freedom to live one's life to the full, is guaranteed b=
>y our
>Constitution.
>
>Imagine also my delight upon reading newsgroups like news:soc.culture.fre=
>nch
>and news:alt.activism.death-penalty which are traditionally forums where
>insecure Americans come to whinny that 'France has had it's [sic] time !'=
>, to
>note the rage and frustration at a country that has 'had it's [sic] time'=
>,
>dictating foreign policy and criminal justice to the 'only superpower'. =
>How I
>laughed. But let us begin, ladies and gentlemen, and take a look at how,
>wherever you may be, whosoever you may be, Marianne [2] extends her iron =
>wing
>clad in finest velvet, grasps you to her full bosum, and protects your ri=
>ghts
>as a citizen of the world.=20=20
>
>Since ancient times, France has been a key player on the European and wor=
>ld
>stage. The largest country in Europe until German reunification, the mos=
>t
>popular tourist destination on the planet, an acknowledged centre of cuis=
>ine,
>the world's fourth economic power, the greatest health service in the wor=
>ld,
>and the cradle of Western thought and science, her influence and strength=
>,
>command respect to the furthest corners of the globe. With crime rates a=
>mong
>the lowest anywhere on the planet, and with the pulsating, vibrant Mecca =
>of the
>arts, philosophy and romance that is Paris, beating at the very centre of=
> her
>chest, France can be said to be the Promised Land.
>
> 'Because she speaks out, because she refuses to bend the knee=09
> to American hegemony, and because she insists on the respect due
> to international law, France is "bothersome" ...
> Since his re-election, and freed from the bounds of "cohabitation",
> the French head of state can at last dedicate his second mandate to
> what he has always presented as one of his priorities: promoting
> the image of France abroad. And things have already changed. The
> recent international events have certainly helped him in his task,
> but it would be wrong to suggest that this and this alone has helped.
> Throughout his political career, Jacques Chirac, now the doyen of
> European political leaders, has cultivated a veritable network of
> friends and allies across Europe and the world. Friends and allies
> who were waiting for one thing, and one thing only: to hear a voice
> other than that of the United States. And why not France's ? So
> Jacques Chirac raised the stakes. At the Johannesburg summit,
> where George Bush was conspicious by his absence, Jacques Chirac
> was congratulated by the leaders of Asian, African and South=20
> American countries, for his stance on the environment. In a "slap"
> that reverberated all the way across the Atlantic to the Oval Office,
> Chirac said, "Gentlemen, our house is on fire, and you are doing=20
> nothing to halt the flames."
> Where Europe is concerned, the tone has also changed. The French
> President has, in spite of opposition, imposed his ideals on=20
> European expansion, strengthening the Franco-Germanic domination
> of Europe, in the process.=20=20
> But it is the 'Iraq Question', that demonstrates better than anything
> the increase in France's power abroad. War in Iraq ? The French
> say that this region needs peace, more than war. And peace comes
> about with respect for international law. It is up to the UN to
> decide whether Saddam Hussein is breaking his promises. It is up
> to the UN to decide what punishment - if any - to apply. By defending
> these principles, Jacques Chirac has not only silenced his critics
> (and obtained their approval : he who is silent, consents), but he
> has also forced George Bush into making significant concessions and
> inspiring some Americans into describing France as "the conscience of
> America [sic]". It may not be enough, but the consensus is clear:
> France has found her voice.' [3]
>
>Indeed, my friends, I am proud to read the words 'Nationalit=E9: fran=E7a=
>ise'
>on my passport. Let us all proclaim with one strong, clear voice: vive
>la France !
>
>[1] url:http://www.lefigaro.fr/=20
>[2] url:http://www.terrace.qld.edu.au/academic/lote/french/icomaria.htm
>[3] Copyright (C) 2002 _Le Figaro_ (this translation Copyleft (C) 2002
> Desmond Coughlan (All Rights Reserved))
>
>A copy of this article is archived on the zeoune death penalty repository=
>,
>at url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/vive_la_france.html
>
>
>--=20
>Desmond Coughlan=20=20=20=20=20


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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:13:12 +0000


>
>le 8 Nov 2002 14:00:28 GMT, dans l'article
><aqgg1s$9h4$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>, Charles Trew <db...@freenet.carleton.ca>
>a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>>> With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
>>> bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), i=
>>> t was
>>> perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consid=
>>> er the
>>> wide influence that France, my belov=E8d France, is having upon events ac=
>>> ross the
>>> planet.
>

>> Yes. And today at the UN France is set to vote with the US for a
>> resolution on Iraq.
>> I look forward to cheap gasoline and natural gas next year once the US
>> army occupies and adminsters the Iraqi oil fileds.
>> Thank you France!!!
>

>You are welcome, Charles. Once we had successfully calmed the warmongering
>ardour of George 'Election ? What Election ?' Bush, and 'insured' (sic)
>that only legitimate action by the United Nations would be used, we hereby
>allow the United States to get off her knees. Oh, and you can stop sucking,
>now.
>

>--
>Desmond Coughlan

>desmond @ zeouane.org
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Friends, This post is addressed to all those who value life, and who have a
desire to protect it, but due to the open nature of usenet, I am aware that
deathies will see it, too.

With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), it was
perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consider the
wide influence that France, my belovèd France, is having upon events across the
planet. Imagine my surprise upon conceiving of this post, to go to buy my
paper, and to note in _Figaro_ magazine [1], an article entitled, 'France and
Francophonie'. It would appear that great minds do indeed think alike, and
that (to judge by the recent crop of obsessive, semen-drenched, 'look-at-me-
desi!' public ejaculations from the pit-dwelling, snake-haired scum) fools
seldom differ.

For those of us privileged enough to live in this rich and fertile land, this
Blessèd Realm, this Republic where wine and cheese flow like honey, and where
flaxen-haired beauties walk through our lives as if in the living dreams of
elves, our freedoms are many, and our restrictions are few. No one who dwells
within these fair shores, need fear his government, nor fear discrimination
based on his sex, creed, colour, sexuality, or ethnic origin. Verily, freedom
of expression and freedom to live one's life to the full, is guaranteed by our
Constitution.

Imagine also my delight upon reading newsgroups like news:soc.culture.french


and news:alt.activism.death-penalty which are traditionally forums where

insecure Americans come to whinny that 'France has had it's [sic] time !', to
note the rage and frustration at a country that has 'had it's [sic] time',
dictating foreign policy and criminal justice to the 'only superpower'. How I


laughed. But let us begin, ladies and gentlemen, and take a look at how,

wherever you may be, whosoever you may be, Marianne [2] extends her iron wing
clad in finest velvet, grasps you to her full bosum, and protects your rights


as a citizen of the world.

Since ancient times, France has been a key player on the European and world
stage. The largest country in Europe until German reunification, the most
popular tourist destination on the planet, an acknowledged centre of cuisine,
the world's fourth economic power, the greatest health service in the world,
and the cradle of Western thought and science, her influence and strength,
command respect to the furthest corners of the globe. With crime rates among
the lowest anywhere on the planet, and with the pulsating, vibrant Mecca of the
arts, philosophy and romance that is Paris, beating at the very centre of her


chest, France can be said to be the Promised Land.

'Because she speaks out, because she refuses to bend the knee

to American hegemony, and because she insists on the respect due
to international law, France is "bothersome" ...
Since his re-election, and freed from the bounds of "cohabitation",
the French head of state can at last dedicate his second mandate to
what he has always presented as one of his priorities: promoting
the image of France abroad. And things have already changed. The
recent international events have certainly helped him in his task,
but it would be wrong to suggest that this and this alone has helped.
Throughout his political career, Jacques Chirac, now the doyen of
European political leaders, has cultivated a veritable network of
friends and allies across Europe and the world. Friends and allies
who were waiting for one thing, and one thing only: to hear a voice
other than that of the United States. And why not France's ? So
Jacques Chirac raised the stakes. At the Johannesburg summit,
where George Bush was conspicious by his absence, Jacques Chirac
was congratulated by the leaders of Asian, African and South

American countries, for his stance on the environment. In a "slap"
that reverberated all the way across the Atlantic to the Oval Office,
Chirac said, "Gentlemen, our house is on fire, and you are doing

nothing to halt the flames."
Where Europe is concerned, the tone has also changed. The French
President has, in spite of opposition, imposed his ideals on

European expansion, strengthening the Franco-Germanic domination
of Europe, in the process.

But it is the 'Iraq Question', that demonstrates better than anything
the increase in France's power abroad. War in Iraq ? The French
say that this region needs peace, more than war. And peace comes
about with respect for international law. It is up to the UN to
decide whether Saddam Hussein is breaking his promises. It is up
to the UN to decide what punishment - if any - to apply. By defending
these principles, Jacques Chirac has not only silenced his critics
(and obtained their approval : he who is silent, consents), but he
has also forced George Bush into making significant concessions and
inspiring some Americans into describing France as "the conscience of
America [sic]". It may not be enough, but the consensus is clear:
France has found her voice.' [3]

Indeed, my friends, I am proud to read the words 'Nationalité: française'


on my passport. Let us all proclaim with one strong, clear voice: vive
la France !

[1] url:http://www.lefigaro.fr/


[2] url:http://www.terrace.qld.edu.au/academic/lote/french/icomaria.htm
[3] Copyright (C) 2002 _Le Figaro_ (this translation Copyleft (C) 2002
Desmond Coughlan (All Rights Reserved))

A copy of this article is archived on the zeoune death penalty repository,
at url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/vive_la_france.html

All those words to say that 'France agreed to the U.S. resolution placed
before the U.N.' In fact, the ONLY change that France sought and received
was the substitution of 'and' for 'or' in what Paris felt was a key phrase.
That is not to say that France does not represent a strong ally in this
action... but I take issue with the claim that "'Because she speaks out,
because she refuses to bend the knee to American hegemony, and


because she insists on the respect due to international law, France is

"bothersome" ..." Truly... desi is 'bothersome.' France is a key
ally... and a friend. desi is a nuisance, and simply anti-American.

PV


--
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|Spiritual Leader of the Universal
|Right to Life Church. (umm... get
|away from me -- you filthy black
|starving child in Africa) 'My church'
|isn't for you.

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"Tim Drake" <t...@gotham.com> wrote in message news:mIYy9.1472$5e5.98...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:ijdgqa....@lievre.voute.net...
> Friends, This post is addressed to all those who value life, and who have a
> desire to protect it, but due to the open nature of usenet, I am aware that
> deathies will see it, too.
>
> With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
> bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), it
> was
> perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consider
> the
> wide influence that France, my belovèd France, is having upon events across

> the
> planet.
>
> Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the United
> States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.
>
> I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
> anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.
>
> But you will not, Desi.
>
It is not the French... it is desi. In fact, we should not confuse the two,
since that is what desi would hope we do. desi is maniacally
anti-American, to put it mildly. One does not find that in the reasonable
Frenchman. But desi does not have the capability of recognizing the
difference between 'right' and 'wrong.'

The worst aspect of this, however, is his view on the DP. He finds
murderers 'right' and 'punishment for murderers' wrong, in his now famous
doctrine Number 643... of "I personally shrink from the entire doctrine of
'punishment' as a tool of crime prevention." Those were his EXACT words...see
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021013212908.02941.00002718%40mb-dh.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
and his EXACT meaning. He rejects the doctrine of 'punishment,' not only for
murderers, but as any tool of crime prevention. From this, we can only
presume that we have no need of a criminal justice system for ANY criminal,
since 'punishment' cannot be part of it. All trials... gone. All prisons... gone.
All criminals... free. All murderers... free. What a doctrine! Save a bunch
of money up front... No lawyers... no trials... no prisons. But the backend costs
would be horrendous. Of course, he has also stated that victims have no meaning,
in respect to the equation of with to do with their murderers, because they are
dead. And the dead have no meaning.

PV


Tim Drake

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> le Sat, 09 Nov 2002 06:01:29 GMT, dans l'article
<Zw1z9.247770$S8.49...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@abcxyz.com> a dit ...
>
> { snip }

>
> >> Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the
United
> >> States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.
> >>
> >> I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
> >> anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.
> >>
> >> But you will not, Desi.
>
> { snip LDB sucking up to Tim, 'be my friend, Tim !', topped off with a
> 'quote' (sic) that wasn't even made by me,

Uh, Desi, I clicked the link, and now I know why you will not
archive your posts: You do not want your own words to come back to haunt
you. Unfortunately, they have anyway. And you have been shown to not only be
a fucking jerk, but a baldfaced liar as well.

Someone else suggested earlier you get some help from a mental
health professional. Judging from your behavior, I would second that motion.

However, until you admit you have a problem, I am going to join
the many others who have come before, and perhaps since.......

*PLONK!*


Rev. Don Kool

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Desi Coughlan wrote:
> Charles Trew <db...@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote...
>
> { snip }


>
>
>>>With the many recent cases of Europe in general and France in particular,
>>>bringing the United States to its unworthy knees (Einhorn, Iraq, etc.), i=
>>>t was
>>>perhaps the perfect moment to sit back, give a contented burp, and consid=
>>>er the
>>>wide influence that France, my belov=E8d France, is having upon events ac=
>>>ross the
>>>planet.
>>
>
>> Yes. And today at the UN France is set to vote with the US for a
>>resolution on Iraq.
>> I look forward to cheap gasoline and natural gas next year once the US
>>army occupies and adminsters the Iraqi oil fileds.
>> Thank you France!!!
>
>

> You are welcome, Charles. Once we had successfully calmed the warmongering
> ardour of George 'Election ? What Election ?' Bush, and 'insured' (sic)
> that only legitimate action by the United Nations would be used, we hereby
> allow the United States to get off her knees. Oh, and you can stop sucking,
> now.

Desi, I know reality isn't really your thing but by what bizzare leap
of faith do you imagine that the United States (the greatest country on
the face of the Earth, BTW) was going to refrain from protecting her
national security due to lack of a UN resolution? After all, we already
snapped our fingers and had france fall in line over the international
criminal court.

Happy to have cleared things up for you,
Don

--
*************************** You a bounty hunter?
* Rev. Don McDonald, SCSA * Man's gotta earn a living.
* Baltimore, MD * Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
*************************** "Outlaw Josey Wales"

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Of course he made the comment. He's the biggest liar in this group,
and has some REAL mental problems. There is no reasoning with
ol' bubblehead, and any mental therapy we might try to provide here,
is hopelessly inadequate, thus we can only entreat him to seek help.
Every response he has ever made can fit into 10 GIMMICKS.

GIMMICK # 1 -- He searches feverishly for some pedantic point, as a
chimp searches for fleas on his body. Where, finding them, even
if they are imaginary, he will thereby claims 'grammar victory.' He 'lives'
for the 'missing comma,' the 'misspelled word,' or the 'imaginary
morpheme.' One can easily recognize when he uses this GIMMICK.
In every instance of him providing a '(sic),' to a word another has used,
it is as if God has rubber-stamped desi's forehead with the word 'LOSER.'

GIMMICK # 2 -- A claim of 'vast educational and intellectual capacity.'
Accompanied by a comment which disparages that same capacity in
the one he is responding to. Most frequently used to imply that all
Americans are 'uneducated,' while he has received a 'classical education.'
One should note that when that 'classical education' is threatened with
exposure, he will respond by claiming the other is a 'pseudo-intellectual.'
Whenever he encounters a term used by another that he is unfamiliar
with... the old 'pseudo-intellectual' GIMMICK # 2 comes out of his
repertoire of GIMMICKS.

GIMMICK # 3 -- Presentation of a bold-faced lie. Such as his comment in
this post. Denying what he has written, which is his obvious intent in hiding
his posting history. He has done this in 'claiming' his flat was firebombed
by another poster, that this other poster was sent to prison because
of his efforts, and on dozens of other occasions, in respect to dozens
of other lies he has presented. Saying one thing, and later saying
quite the opposite, and denying his first comment. Claiming he 'fears'
death so much that the excreta would be running down his leg if faced
with death... see
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8sia9a.hjj.desmond%40lievre.voute.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
and then claiming that 'I do not fear death' in the following post, plus
many others. See
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=D40o8.293959%24TV4.42072274%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com
desi has no shame... no embarrassment... no integrity... no principles...
no ethics... no honesty... no decency...no honor... no sense of moral
values. He is bereft of any concept of truthfulness. And when one
recognizes that, it becomes much easier to laugh at his lies.

GIMMICK # 4 - A claim that anyone who posts anonymously must be
'untruthful,' BY DEFINITION. While he hides his own posting history,
and does not know the meaning of 'truth.' This GIMMICK is usually
accompanied by the sound of Colonel Bogey's March being heard
whistling through the emptiness between his two ears.

GIMMICK # 5 -- He provides a bigoted insult to certain segments of our
species. Either racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American, or against ALL
retentionists. See
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212911.18726.00000057%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
and
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212910.18726.00000056%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
and
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212912.18726.00000058%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
in addition to him providing these racist comments I noted in --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Lg2z9.248333%24S8.4997097%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

GIMMICK # 6 -- He provides an illogical argument under any conditions we
might examine of logic. He has claimed a number of his 'opinions' do not
require 'proof.' desi's lack of any capacity to logically examine any
issue, leads to the logical conclusion that his comments are worthless.

GIMMICK # 7 -- Display of a perverted character. Another of desi's favorites.
Perverse in his presence here... He loves to post pictures of 'dead and
decayed' bodies. He has a perverted sexual appetite, which is frequently
demonstrated in his lust for 14-year-old nymphets. He once posted his
impression of the last 43 seconds of a teenage female murder victim,
and related how "As she falls, her skirt rides up over her hips. The
man notes that she isn't wearing panties. 'I shoulda raped her first,
the whore ..." One can literally picture the drool forming as desi thinks
about what he describes... she falls... her splayed thighs... her panty-less
pubic area... and one could imagine the stain that was forming on the
front of desi's pants, as he visual imagined how he wished he had raped
her before murdering her. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020817212931.10131.00000274%40mb-fo.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
He is famous for posting irrelevant URLs and comments which offer
his *giggles* in respect to tragedies. It seems every tragedy in the
world is greeted by him with such giggles. Including the WTC attack,
which he refers to with a (sic) every time it he mentions it, the recent
Moscow attack, and the 'prayer' (really... A PRAYER!!!), that he offered
for the safe escape to Mexico of seven escaped murderers from a
Texas prison. In general, he totally avoids any issue relating to the DP,
while creating many issues which have nothing to do with the DP. Those
issues he creates almost always have some perversion involved in their
creation.

GIMMICK # 8 -- Recently, as his mental decline progresses, this has become
his 'favorite.' Providing NOTHING except a meaningless kindergarten insult
which is what I've now referred to as 'mindless drivel.' In point of fact, I have
kept track of such 'mindless drivel,' and it has reached more than 200 since
only 25 October. You can find that in my 'daily summary' of his drivel in
the posts titled "desi 'mindless drivel'" And if today is any indication, his decline
is accelerating. You can instantly recognize much of his 'mindless drivel,' since
it usually includes the words

*snigger*
*snort*
*cackle*
*boo*
*bwahahhahaha*
*chortle*
*guffaw*
*wheeze*
*dribble*
*cough*
etc.

GIMMICK # 9 -- He uses what was once analyzed by St. George (a most
observant and prescient poster), who formerly contributed here, that which
has come to be known as St. George Seminal Axiom 6) -- 'When faced with
utter defeat... simply clip everything and claim victory.'

GIMMICK # 10. His general use of an insult, containing nothing else. For
example he once called the Mother who had just had her son murdered -
perverse. See
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8o8gdj.iit.desmond%40lievre.voute.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
This woman, assuming the handle 'bobbyc,' had come here temporarily trying
to find some understanding in respect to the horrendous murder of her son.
Rather than attempt to understand her pain... desi quite literally 'giggled' as
he punched her in her emotional gut. There is, in fact, a clear indication that
he is an 'angry drunk' as well... since when he does post using this GIMMICK
it is obvious that he is most probably drunk at the time.. and like many drunks...
when he gets drunk he gets brutal. This relates to all his GIMMICKS,
since he has never held a dialog which has not ended up with him using
one of his GIMMICKS in raging fury... ending up slamming his forehead
against his desk. He was certainly drunk when he posted to bobbyc, and
most probably drunk during most of his tirades.

All that being said, I am opposed to killfiles... most especially when one
encounters the depths of depravity, deceit and lies that desi demonstrates.
I understand how abhorrent it is to confront this monster... since there is
always the possibility that by confronting monsters we have the danger
of possibly assuming some of their aspects. But I cannot abide our species
not opposing, and not speaking out against a 'gospel' that espouses 'love
for murderers,' and 'hate for victims.' That is the 'gospel' of Desmond
Coughlan.

PV

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> le Sat, 09 Nov 2002 06:01:29 GMT, dans l'article <Zw1z9.247770$S8.49...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@abcxyz.com> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the United
> >> States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.
> >>
> >> I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
> >> anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.
> >>
> >> But you will not, Desi.
>
> { snip LDB sucking up to Tim, 'be my friend, Tim !', topped off with a
> 'quote' (sic) that wasn't even made by me, as 'proof' that I made it.
>
But it certainly WAS made by you, Bozo... no sense denying what
EVERYONE knows. Your words EXACTLY were "I personally shrink

from the entire doctrine of 'punishment' as a tool of crime prevention."
Those were your EXACT words...see
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021013212908.02941.00002718%40mb-dh.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

Are you so much in denial that you no longer stand by what you have
previously said?

> LOL ... off the deep end, he goes ... *guffaw!*
>
GIMMICK # 8 -- 'mindless drivel,' expecting others to not recognize that
you are trying to lie your way out of this one. AGAIN.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:03:53 +0000
>
>le Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:52:00 GMT, dans l'article
><Q2bz9.1584$NA1.113...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Drake
><t...@gotham.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>> *PLONK!*
>
>Christ, I'm gutted.


>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan
>desmond @ zeouane.org
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:30:42 +0000
>
>le Sat, 09 Nov 2002 00:32:18 GMT, dans l'article
><mIYy9.1472$5e5.98...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, Tim Drake


><t...@gotham.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>> Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the United
>> States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.
>>
>> I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
>> anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.
>>
>> But you will not, Desi.
>

>You missed out, 'if it wasn't [sic] for America [sic], you'd be speaking
>German !!'
>
>Go on ... you know you want to ...

>
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<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:32:15 +0000


>
>le Sat, 09 Nov 2002 06:01:29 GMT, dans l'article
><Zw1z9.247770$S8.49...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor

><abc...@abcxyz.com> a dit ...

>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Yes, your beloved France. A country so superior, in fact, the United
>>> States has to come and liberate it from the Nazis in 1944.
>>>
>>> I am sure most can see the irony of that, especially with the
>>> anti-semitic attitude the French have aquired of late.
>>>
>>> But you will not, Desi.
>

>{ snip LDB sucking up to Tim, 'be my friend, Tim !', topped off with a
>'quote' (sic) that wasn't even made by me, as 'proof' that I made it.
>

>LOL ... off the deep end, he goes ... *guffaw!*
>

>--
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>desmond @ zeouane.org
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:9vjlqa....@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:16:09 GMT, dans l'article <triz9.161159$r7.29...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> ROTFLMAO !!
>
> 6 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> > *plonk*
>
> Oh....my... God!!!! Another poster having so effectively rattled desi's cage,
> that he enters the hollowed (sic) halls of 'desi's famous killfile.' [1]
>
> 9 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> >> *PLONK!*

>
> > All that being said, I am opposed to killfiles...
>
> Ha, ha, ha !!!
>
> [1]
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=plonk+author:Planet+author:Visitor&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=Ldhy9.241521%
24S8.4460896%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&rnum=3

I really believe desi is losing his grasp on reality, since his posting
makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. _I_ have never used the
term *plonk* thus it is impossible to even decipher his meaning.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: France The Mighty
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 11/11/2002 3:49 AM Eastern Standard Time
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le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:58:38 GMT, dans l'article
<OqJz9.112591$fa.20...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

{ snip }

> I really believe desi is losing his grasp on reality, since his posting


> makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. _I_ have never used the
> term *plonk* thus it is impossible to even decipher his meaning.

LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?


Desmond Coughlan
===============================

Dezi, as we all know, has lost his grasp on reality long ago. We first noticed
it when he started raving about Don Kool firebombing his apartment.

Over the years, there has been no improvement. As a matter of fact, a decline
in his mental facilties have been noted by one and all.

Be kind to the infirm such as Dezi.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:6uqnqa...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:58:38 GMT, dans l'article <OqJz9.112591$fa.20...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor

<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> > I really believe desi is losing his grasp on reality, since his posting
> > makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. _I_ have never used the
> > term *plonk* thus it is impossible to even decipher his meaning.
>
> LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
> two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?
>
I don't care how many it is.. the IMPLICATION of your post was that
I HAD used the term. Which again... makes you a lying cunt.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: France The Mighty
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 11/11/2002 4:18 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <dksnqa...@lievre.voute.net>

le 11 Nov 2002 09:03:03 GMT, dans l'article
<20021111040303...@mb-ca.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...

{ snip =

>> LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
>> two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?

> Dezi, as we all know, has lost his grasp on reality long ago. We first


noticed
> it when he started raving about Don Kool firebombing his apartment.
>
> Over the years, there has been no improvement. As a matter of fact, a decline
> in his mental facilties have been noted by one and all.
>
> Be kind to the infirm such as Dezi.

The above 'response', Mr Uranium-235, could have come from the pen of
billytwat, or one of Drewl's other personae. Are you proud of yourself ?
Are you off your medication ? Are you incapable of noting that 'Desi' (sic)
wasn't accusing LDB of having written 'plonk' ? Or are you just as thick
as shit ? The answers to these questions, and others, will be answered
in the next post from ... Mr Uranium-235.


Desmond Coughlan
===============================

Thank you for helping me in making my point.

Now sit down before you hurt yourself. Put down the pen, it has a sharp point
and you dont want to hurt yourself again. Take a
deeeeeepp breath....hold it....now let it out slowly...once again now.....good
lad..... now swallow this pill ..here is some water....

Rev. Don Kool

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Desi Coughlan wrote:
> JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote...

[...snip Desi's proof of insanity...]

Poor Desi, drunk again. :-(

Yours in Christ,

Incubus

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<snip>

>
> Thank you for helping me in making my point.
>
> Now sit down before you hurt yourself. Put down the pen, it has a sharp
point
> and you dont want to hurt yourself again. Take a
> deeeeeepp breath....hold it....now let it out slowly...once again
now.....good
> lad..... now swallow this pill ..here is some water....

LOL
I don't think he types with a pen Jigsaw. :-) though if he could i bet he
would type with a quill. Well it makes him look clever doesn't it. Don't
tell him what your taste in films and music is as he is just the sort that
uses that to assess your intelligence. There are many like him. They have
charm, a sense of humour and a friendly attitude to begin with but he will
stab his best friend in the chest as soon as look at you as long as it makes
him look good in public to people he doesn't even know. There are many like
him, i have named the species,"the Dominic"

beware, they carry sharp weapons and they attack without provocation

:-D


A Planet Visitor

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Incubus seems to finally be recognizing the true nature of ol' Ironhead.

PV

> :-D
>
>
>

Incubus

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Finally? I have known it for ages and yes you are no longer in my killfile.
I think you have had time to cool off :-)


> PV


>
> > :-D
> >
> >
> >


Incubus

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> le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:45:06 -0000, dans l'article
<51Sz9.2265$5x.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, Incubus
<inc...@river.styx> a dit ...
>
> { snip }

>
> >> Incubus seems to finally be recognizing the true nature of ol'
Ironhead.
>
> > Finally? I have known it for ages and yes you are no longer in my
killfile.
> > I think you have had time to cool off :-)
>
> Isn't it sweet to see the end of a tiff ? LDB's policy of 'he who is
silent,
> consents', with regard to your blatant fabrications, has paid off.

your above post was the most predictable on the planet


A Planet Visitor

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>
> "A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Incubus" <inc...@river.styx> wrote in message
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<clipped>

> > Incubus seems to finally be recognizing the true nature of ol' Ironhead.
>
> Finally? I have known it for ages and yes you are no longer in my killfile.
> I think you have had time to cool off :-)

Then, I do not know if you ever saw my post in reference to our
'argument' of before, so let me repeat it in part, since I hold no animosity
toward you. And never have, although we disagreed rather
violently --

desi has always functioned from the role of being delusional and having
a belief that someone in this newsgroup is 'out to get him.' . One need
only look at how often he has accused others of trying to do him 'physical
harm,' to understand that he can hardly be seen as 'mentally balanced'
in this imaginary world of Usenet. He has just been bitch slapped so
often lately, that he has become even more 'unhinged,' and now checks
his 'bike' each morning for 'terrorist retentionists' planting bombs, because
he believes his cancer ridden posts have so 'enraged' them. When
actually... his words alternate between laughable... and grotesque. He
continues to believe he is not the retentionist's best weapon. He is wrong.

Now let me tell you, that in spite of all the insults... I hold no grudge against
you... although you apparently do (or did) against me. I simply would not
permit you to dictate (as a presumed 'friend' or otherwise), the methods I might
use in posting to desi. I will not permit ANYONE to dictate to me. Since
I am here only to express an opinion, and any attempt to limit my
expression (for WHATEVER reason one might presume it is 'friendly')
will be met with the harshest form of reply. Since it constitutes (even if a
'presumed' in my 'own best interests' remark), abridging my right to 'free
speech.' I will say that you had some peripheral impact on my
decision to temporarily 'bulk list' desi's 'mindless drivel' at the end of
each day, instead of replying to them individually, which simply created
more of his 'mindless drivel.'

That being said... I find it all to be 'water under the bridge,' and I would
hope we could return to 'civil' dialog.

PV


Incubus

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The feeling is mutual PV. When we had our blow up i was not trying to
humiliate you or upset you. It was a big misunderstanding that got out of
hand and i think we both over reacted. I certainly hold no grudge against
you. You are a grown man and i will not preach to you how to conduct
yourself again

here's to peaceful civility..


and shut up before you respond Desi


Incubus

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> le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:11:59 -0000, dans l'article
<XWVz9.4906$NZ6....@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net>, Incubus
<inc...@river.styx> a dit ...
>

> > The feeling is mutual PV.
>
> Get a room, you two !
>
> { snip variations on 'I love you, too, pumpkin!' }

put the scissors and the contraceptive away


Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:16:19 +0000


>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:11:59 -0000, dans l'article
><XWVz9.4906$NZ6....@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net>, Incubus
><inc...@river.styx> a dit ...
>
>> The feeling is mutual PV.
>
>Get a room, you two !
>
>{ snip variations on 'I love you, too, pumpkin!' }
>

>--
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>desmond @ zeouane.org
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:10:54 +0000
>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:40:42 GMT, dans l'article
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><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip 'I never stopped loving you, incubus !!' }
>
>*puke*


>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:41:33 +0000
>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:00:22 GMT, dans l'article
><GmRz9.262236$S8.53...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor


><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>> Incubus seems to finally be recognizing the true nature of ol' Ironhead.
>

>Got your friend back, then, LDB ?
>
>'SLURP [sic] ... SLURP [sic] ... SLURP [sic]'.


>
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:16:20 +0000
>
>le 11 Nov 2002 11:55:31 GMT, dans l'article
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><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip my sarcastic destruction of Jigsaw }


>
>> Thank you for helping me in making my point.
>

>... which went straight over your head.
>
>Christ, reassure me ... Florida didn't _really_ give you a badge and a
>gun, did they ?
>
>{ snip moronic 'come-back' }


>
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:58:20 +0000


>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:45:06 -0000, dans l'article
><51Sz9.2265$5x.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, Incubus

><inc...@river.styx> a dit ...

>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Incubus seems to finally be recognizing the true nature of ol' Ironhead.
>

>> Finally? I have known it for ages and yes you are no longer in my killfile.
>> I think you have had time to cool off :-)
>

>Isn't it sweet to see the end of a tiff ? LDB's policy of 'he who is silent,
>consents', with regard to your blatant fabrications, has paid off.
>

>--
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:49:10 +0000


>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:58:38 GMT, dans l'article

><OqJz9.112591$fa.20...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor


><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>> I really believe desi is losing his grasp on reality, since his posting
>> makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. _I_ have never used the
>> term *plonk* thus it is impossible to even decipher his meaning.
>

>LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
>two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?
>

>--
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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:05 +0000


>
>le 11 Nov 2002 09:03:03 GMT, dans l'article

><20021111040303...@mb-ca.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip =


>
>>> LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
>>> two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?
>

>> Dezi, as we all know, has lost his grasp on reality long ago. We first
>noticed
>> it when he started raving about Don Kool firebombing his apartment.
>>
>> Over the years, there has been no improvement. As a matter of fact, a
>decline
>> in his mental facilties have been noted by one and all.
>>
>> Be kind to the infirm such as Dezi.
>
>The above 'response', Mr Uranium-235, could have come from the pen of
>billytwat, or one of Drewl's other personae. Are you proud of yourself ?
>Are you off your medication ? Are you incapable of noting that 'Desi' (sic)
>wasn't accusing LDB of having written 'plonk' ? Or are you just as thick
>as shit ? The answers to these questions, and others, will be answered
>in the next post from ... Mr Uranium-235.
>

>--
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <207oqa...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:14:58 +0000
>
>le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:17:08 GMT, dans l'article
><oAKz9.113012$fa.20...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor


><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>

>>> LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
>>> two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?
>

>> I don't care how many it is.. the IMPLICATION of your post was that
>> I HAD used the term. Which again... makes you a lying cunt.
>

>Oops, yes, he _will_ try to brazen it out. Let us consider the post the
>post in question, ladies, gentlemen, and deathies ...
>
> {snip headers}


> le Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:16:09 GMT, dans l'article

><triz9.161159$r7.2920329@twister


>
> { snip }
>
> ROTFLMAO !!
>
> 6 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> > *plonk*
>
> Oh....my... God!!!! Another poster having so effectively rattled
desi's

> cage that he enters the hollowed (sic) halls of 'desi's famous
killfile.'
>


> 9 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> >> *PLONK!*
>
> > All that being said, I am opposed to killfiles...
>
> Ha, ha, ha !!!
>

>Can anyone _fail_ to see that in fact, what I was accusing LDB of, wasn't of
>posting 'plonk', but of hypocrisy in answering _others'_ posts of 'plonk', in
>different ways, depending on who that poster was ?
>
>Or did the above explanation contain too many big words for LDB to comprehend
>?

>
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A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:207oqa...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:17:08 GMT, dans l'article <oAKz9.113012$fa.20...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor

<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >> LOL ... reassure me that you're drunk right now, LDB !! Or is it that
> >> two chevrons is 'two [sic] much for you too [sic] count' ?
>
> > I don't care how many it is.. the IMPLICATION of your post was that
> > I HAD used the term. Which again... makes you a lying cunt.
>
> Oops, yes, he _will_ try to brazen it out. Let us consider the post the
> post in question, ladies, gentlemen, and deathies ...
>
> {snip headers}
> le Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:16:09 GMT, dans l'article <triz9.161159$r7.2920329@twister

>
> { snip }
>
> ROTFLMAO !!
>
> 6 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> > *plonk*
>
> Oh....my... God!!!! Another poster having so effectively rattled desi's
> cage that he enters the hollowed (sic) halls of 'desi's famous killfile.'

>
> 9 November 2002, LDB writes ...
>
> >> *PLONK!*
>
> > All that being said, I am opposed to killfiles...
>
> Ha, ha, ha !!!
>
> Can anyone _fail_ to see that in fact, what I was accusing LDB of, wasn't of
> posting 'plonk', but of hypocrisy in answering _others'_ posts of 'plonk', in
> different ways, depending on who that poster was ?
>
Actually, you were 'accusing' me of posting *plonk* Otherwise the entire
reason for your post does not exist. Oops... that's right... there never
has been a 'reason' behind any of your posts.

> Or did the above explanation contain too many big words for LDB to comprehend ?

GIMMICK # 2 -- Go on, bubblehead... I KNOW you want to say it...

1) "After all, the word 'rump' is not that difficult for a classically-educated
English speaker like me."

2) "I was just fortunate enough to be born and brought up a European,
and to have the benefit of a British university-supplied classical education."

3) "I can go back to the PhD that I had to abandon in 1998 "

4) "I am a native English speaker, whereas you very obviously, are not."

5) "those of with a classical education, write the language with such
eloquent ease, that we rarely spare a thought for the uneducated
minions placed in our care."

Isn't it too bad that you are unable to 'make yourself clear,' to a great number
of posters here, my immigrant unemployed migrant dole line poster?
Perhaps you can again explain what you propose a criminal justice
system should consist of if you "shrink from the entire doctrine of


'punishment' as a tool of crime prevention."

PV

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <v9cqqa....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: France The Mighty
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:57:51 +0000
>
>le Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:09:21 GMT, dans l'article
><R9%z9.265200$S8.54...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>


>>> Can anyone _fail_ to see that in fact, what I was accusing LDB of, wasn't
>of
>>> posting 'plonk', but of hypocrisy in answering _others'_ posts of 'plonk',
>in
>>> different ways, depending on who that poster was ?
>
>> Actually, you were 'accusing' me of posting *plonk*
>

>Bwaaaaahahahahaaaaa !!!!!
>
>And he _still_ tries to brazen it out !!
>
>Jesus, this is just wonderful !!!
>
>Keep going, LDB. Please, don't _ever_ change !!
>
>{ snip remainder of blatant idiocy }


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>Subject: Re: France The Mighty

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