From Whitley's Journal-Abour the Cancellation of "Dreamland"
Fan@someplaceinkentucky WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky
Art called me about a month ago to tell me that Premiere was using the
occassion of his retirement to cancel Dreamland. This did not surprise
me. When their parent company, Clear Channel, bought the Matt Drudge
program, they were planning to cancel Dreamland. It was only the
intervention of Art Bell and his partner Alan Corbeth that prevented
this.
Instead, Clear Channel moved Dreamland to Saturday night. This was
done with virtually no notice to stations. As a result, Dreamland lost
about fifty stations and for a time the schedule was in chaos. But the
efforts of Alan Corbeth's staff in the Medford, Oregon office got the
situation fixed. However, Premiere never gave the program any
affiliate support and made no effort to sell advertising on it.
The program has always been popular with listeners, and had reached a
count of 240 stations, many of them large stations, at the time of its
cancellation. However, because it was not being given any advertising
support, it was not making money. Our only advertiser, Steven Halpern,
has had success with the show, but this did not move Premiere to do
anything more.
There are more than a few reasons for their lack of support of
Dreamland. The first one is that they do not like my voice. They
consider it too thin. For them, voice is first, content second. In the
years I was host of Dreamland, Premiere never once tried to influence
my content. In fact, if I wanted ideas about content, I had to
actually solicit advice. I was free to do as I pleased.
I had a regular exchange of emails with Kraig Kitchin, the president
of Premiere at first, but this ended when an announcement by me that
listeners should inquire of Premiere if they had problems with the end
of our live internet feed unexpectedly resulted in a flood of hostile
email to Mr. Kitchin. I think that he blamed me for unleashing my
listeners on him, which I certainly did not intend to do.
Another thing that rankled was the tremendous success of
Unknowncountry.com. When I was with Keith Rowland, Premiere's
webmaster, I could not get the attention I needed because he was
stretched pretty thin just managing the huge Art Bell website. Then,
when I left him, there were difficulties that boiled over on-air, and
this did not make Mr. Kitchin happy, either.
Over the years, Unknowncountry has grown into the largest and most
popular website of its kind in the world, far eclipsing all the
others, and this success has been an irritant. The Whitleysworld
website that I had with Premiere got about thirty thousand hits a
month. Last month, Unknowncountry.com got seventeen million hits, and
it is experiencing an explosive growth rate of 250% per year.
This success screams that I am some sort of missed opportunity, and
far outstrips the success of Dreamland. The site reaches a much larger
audience than the broadcast radio program.
The reasons for the cancellation, however, go deeper than these minor
irritants. The first reason is that, while the show has been popular
with listeners, my approach to radio interviewing scares management
because it is so different from what usually succeeds. Success comes
from the simple, the shocking and the extreme, not the complex, the
provocative and the moderate. In addition, the corporate culture of
Clear Channel Communications, of which Premiere is a part, is
ideologically committed, and I am not. I am suspicious of extremes of
both left and right. History--which is in the process of repeating
itself at present--shows that they do nothing but harm. So I will not
present the kind of politically colored programming that might have
made Clear Channel value me more.
The second reason has to do with Saturday night itself. Dreamland
owned Saturday night. There was nothing else in radio doing anything
at all in that time period, and the other networks I went to in my
effort to get the show picked up were unanimous in their verdict: it's
just not a time period worth working for. They all felt that they
could make the show profitable. But the amount of profit that could be
gotten out of a Saturday night program just would not make the effort
worthwhile.
Worse, nobody thought that they could succeed in moving the program
back to Sunday night. Although the programming that Clear Channel has
in there now is not exactly burning up the ratings books, it is
ideologically congenial with the rest of the company, and that means
that they will go above and beyond the call to preserve it.
I am not going to stop doing Dreamland, as long as I can afford to run
it. My own personal commitment to my work is tremendous. This is
because of the years I spent in relationship with the visitors, and my
respect for them and the nobility of their aims. The lady whose
portrait appears on the cover of Communion is a very real person. I
consider her to be the best, the most conscious, the most brilliant
and the strongest person I have ever known. She represents an ancient
excellence that has placed touching faith in mankind, and I will never
betray her charge to me, and never stop carrying out the task she put
to me.
I also know that my life and work follow a plan created by her and her
kind, and the brilliant world that stands silently behind them. For
example, tt was an agony for me to have my cabin in upstate New York
taken from me, but coming to Texas opened important new horizons. I
believe that I was sent here primarily to meet and work with Bill
Mallow, which I did for seven years. His recent passing ends my reason
for being here, and tells me that there will be other changes in my
life as well. What form they will take, I do not know.
A deeper reaons behind the cancellation may have to do with a process
of filtering that I have seen at work in my connection to the public.
I think that people are being winnowed out, and that my work is some
kind of a concealed testing process. Communion was read by twelve
million people worldwide. But then something happened. I had been a
popular, well and widely reviewed author. Communion even received a
good review in the New York Times.
I was told that the Times Book Review received a lot of angry comment
from the paper's own science staff over this review. My book was taken
to be a lie written to get money, a literary fraud. Nothing I said
could change this because nobody of any note culturally dared to
disagree, not even those who knew the falsity of the charge.
Nothing I have ever written since Communion has received wide review.
Instead, the mad culture of the press has taken it upon itself to be
silent about Whitley Strieber, or publish nasty reviews, in order to
punish me for my alleged literary fraud.
As a result, Transformation was read by five million people,
Breakthrough by just six hundred thousand. By the time Confirmation
came along, my media exposure had degenrated into a grotesque
identification of me as in the rectal probe man, thanks to cartoons
like South Park and the Simpsons. When I appeared on Politically
Incorrect in 2001, I was greeted by a sleazy, testosterone-soaked
comedian hammering away at me with rectal probe jokes. This is what
was left of Whitley Strieber in the media. The general public now
dismisses me, if not as a fraud, then as an idiot.
But the process of filtering is not just generated by the
narrow-minded intellectuals and brainless fools of the media. It is
orchestrated, I think, by the visitors. For example, even though my
website gets hundreds of thousands of visitors, barely two thousand
people have ever bought a copy of the Key, and only one thousand six
hundred have bought the Path, and many of them have complained that it
is 'too hard.' These people went on my own message boards with their
complaints, and effectively killed the Path, which was undoubtedly
their intention. The book is profoundly, deeply freeing of the human
spirit, and there are so very many people who don't want that, who
fear it in their own souls, or who are consciously opposed to it, that
such a tool has very little chance of being taken up by many. (If on
reading this, you want to take it up, as you should, click here.
The visitors are using me and my work as a kind of sieve. In the end,
they will find the few hundred people who can actually use the path
and live on it, and if contact comes in this generation, it will be
these people who lead mankind into a new world. I know from experience
what they will be like: gentle, open-minded people with impeccable
spirits.
Not only the visitors are isolating me. The dark side of this is doing
the same thing, just as it is doing everything possible to spread fear
about the visitors, and will do more. The closer contact comes, the
more it will come to seem that they are a murderous, bizarre and
unspeakable horror. That, however, is false, and it will always be
false.
However, it is also true that their dark side is part of them. This is
not a simple matter, and simple minds are going to fail in their
efforts to grapple with it. How could it be that something so good
would also, for example, be responsible for ugly things like
mutilations of animals and possible murder?
I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
The aim of the dark side, insofar as it is concerned with me, is to
silence me because I speak on behalf of human freedom, the advance of
mankind into the cosmos, and the moral elevation of the human spirit.
It has the high ground: the government and corporate America, insofar
as they are is involved in contact, serve the dark side. Both do so
for the same misguided reason: they worry about maintaining control
over the population in the context of the new world that contact would
bring.
If the government cannot deny the existence of the visitors, it will
spread false stories that it has an 'inside track,' in the form of
secret contact with them. It will also spread stories that they are a
dangerous presence, and that, if we are to survive contact, we must
look to our government for protection.
The truth is that the government doesn't have any sort of an inside
track. What it has is fear, misinformation and confusion. The people
who claim that the visitors are a hive, for example, or that they are
a bunch of cruel, emotionless monsters carrying out mindless
scientific experiments on us, or that they eat souls or even that they
eat us, are serving an official purpose: they are spreading the fear
that will induce people to turn to the government for help if contact
ever comes.
In reality, there are a lot of ordinary people out there who know more
than the most highly cleared intelligence agents and military
personnel. This is especially true among people who are soul-aware, in
contact, and in control of their own imaginations. They are mankind's
leading edge, these people.
I am not going to depart too far in this entry from the reasons that
Dreamland lost its broadcast outlet. But the way in which the program
approached the visitors, with a calm and open-minded attitude toward
both the light and dark side of the phenomenon, cannot have been
appreciated by government insiders. My version of Dreamland was about
the end of the dark, warlike and controlling government that we have
now, and the establishment of a new commonwealth of free souls, the
band of human sisters and brothers who one day will venture out into
God's tremendous garden, taking with them the superb gift that this
earth is seeking to give to the universe: the soul of man.
Insofar as it was, in the depths of our spiritual reality, devoted to
that aim, which is also the aim of my being and my life, Dreamland was
hated and feared, and doomed to be silenced.
But--we're like roaches, people like you and me. Step on us and we
learn to flatten ourselves out. Spray us and we breed children who
actually thrive on the spray. Irradiate us and we learn to eat
radiation for our supper. We will not be silenced, never quite, never
entirely.
And, in the end, somehow, the future will find a way to accommodate
the human soul in the glory for which it has been created.
A NOTICE FROM UNKNOWNCOUNTRY.COM
The latest Dreamland Online appears every Saturday afternoon at 3PM.
You can listen any time thereafter as long as a given program remains
available, usually for a month. You can turn off your computer, then
later return to the point at which you stopped listening at any time.
For those of you who want to begin to listen to Dreamland Online and
have never done this before, it's quite simple. You need to install
Windows Media Player on your computer and then click on the Listen Now
button on the upper right hand side of the masthead. If you have
WebTV, you cannot listen to internet broadcasting of any kind, but
there is a Windows Media Player for the Mac. We also maintain a
station at Live365.
The Commentator
>
> Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
< much witless wankage deleted >
Buh bye! Beware the door/ass interface.
tscottme
<WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky> wrote in message
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> Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
>
If an ignored radio show is cancelled and nobody notices...
calzone
> Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
>
> Art called me about a month ago to tell me that Premiere was using the
> occassion of his retirement to cancel Dreamland. This did not surprise
> me.
Me neither.
> There are more than a few reasons for their lack of support of
> Dreamland. The first one is that they do not like my voice.
Yeah, that was tops on my list, too.
> The reasons for the cancellation, however, go deeper than these minor
> irritants.
Oh, Jesus. Here it comes...
> By the time Confirmation
> came along, my media exposure had degenrated into a grotesque
> identification of me as in the rectal probe man, thanks to cartoons
> like South Park and the Simpsons. When I appeared on Politically
> Incorrect in 2001, I was greeted by a sleazy, testosterone-soaked
> comedian hammering away at me with rectal probe jokes.
"Hammering away"? Seek counseling, pal. I think that's a little bit
more than just a pun. Can't believe I missed those episodes, dammnit.
> The book is profoundly, deeply freeing of the human
> spirit, and there are so very many people who don't want that, who
> fear it in their own souls, or who are consciously opposed to it, that
> such a tool has very little chance of being taken up by many.
KOOK!
> Not only the visitors are isolating me. The dark side of this is doing
> the same thing, just as it is doing everything possible to spread fear
> about the visitors, and will do more. The closer contact comes, the
> more it will come to seem that they are a murderous, bizarre and
> unspeakable horror. That, however, is false, and it will always be
> false.
DOUBLE KOOK!
> I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
> scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
> nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
> darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
> also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
> manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
The password is: "expanding universe"
I'm choking now, so I have to snip the rest.
That was probably one of the more entertaining things I've read on
Usenet in a long, long time. Sad, ain't it? But then again, that's
what I'll miss about Bell and his crew: entertainment. Forget all
those reality based tv shows. Survivor has got nothing on these kooks
trying to eek their way through reality.
"Oh no! My book didn't sell? Must be aliens."
"Richard, my God! Somebody's trying to stop us."
Gotta love how he has interpreted an amusing physics problem as proof
of an alien menace.
I've not read his books, but if they are anything like the above, I
can see why they didn't sell.
Man, I'm going to miss that kooky bastard. Nothing says "me big kook"
like blaming aliens for the demise of your less-than-stellar books.
And yes, Whitley, your voice makes a hell of a lot of difference. It's
radio, babe. Perhaps some voice lessons are in order? Or maybe just
get off the drugs, son. Any of these would help.
If I were his neighbor, I would keep the .357 by the bed.
Just in case.
Carl R. Osterwald
WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky writes:
>I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
>scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
>nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
>darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
>also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
>manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Is this from one of your sci-fi books?
-=-=-=-=-
"My investigations show that the most important woman in
the world today is Empress Heidi. It also seems that I,
Czar Nicholas III, am the most important man."
-- Kansan1225 boosts his hat size.
Mike Corsue
Its well apparent Premier is up to major format changes after 1st of year.
There is no doubt on that.
Even c2c is dropping station... its getting harder to find stations tat
carry show.
AB leaving as well as keith and now Witley.. its pretty clear premier is
closing the doors on "late night" paranormal format....I think they see
it as its run its course.
DrPostman
with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
wisdom with:
>In article <6b9jtukpb7pfamspb...@4ax.com> ,
>WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky writes:
>
>>I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
>>scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
>>nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
>>darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
>>also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
>>manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Is this from one of your sci-fi books?
I guess the concept of "shadow" is too deep for Whitless to understand.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: jamie_eckles(at)hotmail.com
"Your name is "Bruce," and my first name is also "Bruce.""
-Idiot The Bruce
Darkwing Duck
"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:05:02 -0000, Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com> in
accordance
> with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their
> wisdom with:
>
> >In article <6b9jtukpb7pfamspb...@4ax.com> ,
> >WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky writes:
> >
> >>I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
> >>scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
> >>nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
> >>darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
> >>also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
> >>manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
> >
> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Is this from one of your sci-fi books?
>
>
> I guess the concept of "shadow" is too deep for Whitless to understand.
>
>
I figured it was because there was no sun, you know, that whole line of
sight thing. Kook-o-meter is pegged.
---------------------------------
The Duck
"As of now I bet you got me wrong" - Alice in Chains
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools.
Let's start with typewriters."
- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
John Griffin
> ....The general public now
> dismisses me, if not as a fraud, then as an idiot.
No shit?! Why?
>...
> I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
> scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
> nothing by a uniform bright glow.
I can't imagine how you anticipated my question, but thanks
for the indirect answer.
Save yourself. Say "It's only some fucking fiction, for
Christ's sake!"
You should never have started taking your fantasies seriously.
ViCtory
When radio becomes nothing but infomercials, you'll get nostalgic for
Dreamland.
Annie
really doesn't have a "radio voice". The radio station carrying him in
my area also is the sports channel. When there are games on Saturday
night, Whitley is bumped for the game. I probably only hear 50% of his
shows but enjoy listening while I do housework. It's entertaining. I get
a kick out of the wild subjects Whitley and Art cover; Atlantis, ghosts,
past lives, reptiles from outer space!
I also find the "snake oil" advertisers amusing. If they're not
doing well with advertisers, could it be that many of the lsiteners are
like me... people who are entertained rather than believers? I'm sure
that the people who would buy coloidal silver and herbal prostate cures
are listening, but they're probably not a large group anywhere. Maybe
they should try for some more mainstream advertising. Long distance
phone service, cleaning products, pet food, etc. are purchased by both
skeptics and believers.
Annie
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>What a shame! I'll miss Whitley. He takes a little getting used to... he
Then you would be surprised at how many suckers are born every minute.
Millions of people take those ads seriously.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>What a shame! I'll miss Whitley.
http://www.snipercountry.com/graphics/Lrm3-1.jpg
HTH.
--
V.G.
"I have not be me idiot you are still BE idiot! hahhahhahahahah!"
Theo <byj...@ch.inter.net> in alt.fan.art-bell
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Hugh Walpole
> Save yourself. Say "It's only some fucking fiction, for
> Christ's sake!"
>
> You should never have started taking your fantasies seriously.
Most of your comments could be applied to Rush and he wasn't cancelled....
12
he and Art Bell go off the air that there will be no one who is
knowledgeable on broadcast radio to cover the subject matter they
discuss. I guess Whitley figures Snoory don't know much concerning
this. (of course he is right about that). It is sad though that we
will be without hosts of the caliber of Art Bell and Whitley Strieber!
There is hope though, Whitley said we will be without Art for at least
two years! What does Whitley know that the rest of us don't about
this! If I were Noory I would not snore too well at nights after
learning of this remark from Whitley. He is also right about the need
to buy that Art Bell website CD as it contains a world of information
which will be lost when Art's website shuts down, although his
(Whitley's) unknown country website will expand after Dreamland goes
full time to internet casting rather than broadcasting!
Snore on George!
.On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:47:46 -0600, "WhitleyStrieber
Fan@someplaceinKentucky" <WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky>
wrote:
DrPostman
Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>Whitley was in rare form tonight on Dreamland. He stated that after
>he and Art Bell go off the air that there will be no one who is
>knowledgeable on broadcast radio to cover the subject matter they
>discuss.
Yea, frauds of their caliber are rare indeed.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <78o6vu07be5ngi63h...@4ax.com>...
>On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:39:01 -0600, 12 <1...@13.com> in accordance with The
>Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
>
>>Whitley was in rare form tonight on Dreamland. He stated that after
>>he and Art Bell go off the air that there will be no one who is
>>knowledgeable on broadcast radio to cover the subject matter they
>>discuss.
>
>
>Yea, frauds of their caliber are rare indeed.
They can even keep DrPostman hanging on to the last and beyond.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message <78o6vu07be5ngi63h...@4ax.com>...
>>On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:39:01 -0600, 12 <1...@13.com> in accordance with The
>>Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
>with:
>>
>>>Whitley was in rare form tonight on Dreamland. He stated that after
>>>he and Art Bell go off the air that there will be no one who is
>>>knowledgeable on broadcast radio to cover the subject matter they
>>>discuss.
>>
>>
>>Yea, frauds of their caliber are rare indeed.
>
>
>They can even keep DrPostman hanging on to the last and beyond.
>
Except that I don't listen, like you do.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <9639vuksfo8e8sph8...@4ax.com>...
>On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:57:01 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message <78o6vu07be5ngi63h...@4ax.com>...
>>>On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:39:01 -0600, 12 <1...@13.com> in accordance with The
>>>Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
>>with:
>>>
>>>>Whitley was in rare form tonight on Dreamland. He stated that after
>>>>he and Art Bell go off the air that there will be no one who is
>>>>knowledgeable on broadcast radio to cover the subject matter they
>>>>discuss.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yea, frauds of their caliber are rare indeed.
>>
>>
>>They can even keep DrPostman hanging on to the last and beyond.
>>
>
>Except that I don't listen, like you do.
You're such a fraud.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message <9639vuksfo8e8sph8...@4ax.com>...
>>On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:57:01 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>They can even keep DrPostman hanging on to the last and beyond.
>>>
>>
>>Except that I don't listen, like you do.
>
>
>You're such a fraud.
No, really. It makes my brain hurt to listen. How do you stand it?
Unless, of course, you have no brain left.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:39:42 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message <9639vuksfo8e8sph8...@4ax.com>...
>>>On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:57:01 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>
>>>>They can even keep DrPostman hanging on to the last and beyond.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Except that I don't listen, like you do.
>>
>>
>>You're such a fraud.
>
>
>No, really. It makes my brain hurt to listen. How do you stand it?
>
>Unless, of course, you have no brain left.
I only have no left brain.
Although I kick my radio out the window (mentally) every time Noory says
"jeez" .
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>I only have no left brain.
>Although I kick my radio out the window (mentally) every time Noory says
>"jeez" .
How can there be anything left to kick after only one night?
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <372dvu8ioqi8fs7cs...@4ax.com>...
>On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:08:51 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>I only have no left brain.
>>Although I kick my radio out the window (mentally) every time Noory says
>>"jeez" .
>
>
>How can there be anything left to kick after only one night?
I have a piece of twine tied to the radio's crank and pull in back in during
the day.
Cap'n TrVth
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Take your creepy preverted H-mo fantasies out of here Stiffy.
-Cap
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>> DrPostman wrote in message
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>> >On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:08:51 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>> >accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
>availed
>> us of
>> >their wisdom with:
>> >
>> >
>> >>I only have no left brain.
>> >>Although I kick my radio out the window (mentally) every time Noory
says
>> >>"jeez" .
>> >
>> >
>> >How can there be anything left to kick after only one night?
>>
>> I have a piece of twine tied to the radio's crank and pull in back in
>during
>> the day.
>>
>
>Take your creepy preverted H-mo fantasies out of here Stiffy.
>
>-Cap
You sound like the top heterophobe here.
"Captain" Trvth? Do you run around the Poop Deck in a Leather captain's hat
and a leather
Captain's vest and gold lame Captain's skivvies ordering your Fist mate to
swab your head
there as you run your own Greek Navy?
Dr H
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, 12 wrote:
}Whitley was in rare form tonight on Dreamland.
[...]
}.On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:47:46 -0600, "WhitleyStrieber
}Fan@someplaceinKentucky" <WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky>
}wrote:
}
}>Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
}>
[...]
}>There are more than a few reasons for their lack of support of
}>Dreamland. The first one is that they do not like my voice. They
}>consider it too thin. For them, voice is first, content second.
This makes no sense at all. Anyone who's ever been inside a radio
studio knows that they have enough EQs from Hell and other audio
tricks to make Jerry Lewis sound like anything from the aliens in
"Men in Black" to Lou Rawls, if they want.
[...]
}>As a result, Transformation was read by five million people,
}>Breakthrough by just six hundred thousand. By the time Confirmation
}>came along, my media exposure had degenrated into a grotesque
}>identification of me as in the rectal probe man, thanks to cartoons
}>like South Park and the Simpsons. When I appeared on Politically
}>Incorrect in 2001, I was greeted by a sleazy, testosterone-soaked
}>comedian hammering away at me with rectal probe jokes. This is what
}>was left of Whitley Strieber in the media. The general public now
}>dismisses me, if not as a fraud, then as an idiot.
Yeah, sometimes people do wise up, eventually.
Dr H
David R. Acree
in a newsgroup for their fans. When there no longer on the radio
those of us who truly appreciate them will know right who to blame.
Grow up fools!!!!On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:09:26 -0800, Dr H
David R. Acree
All of you fools who don't like Art or Whitley got no business posting
those of us who truly appreciate them will know right who to blame.
David Acree
Carl R. Osterwald
Da...@myownhouse.com writes:
>All of you fools who don't like Art or Whitley got no business posting
>in a newsgroup for their fans.
Did you read the FAQ? Since you didn't, I'll help you out: this group
is for discussion of the _fans_ of art-bell.
>When there no longer on the radio
>those of us who truly appreciate them will know right who to blame.
*sniff*
>Grow up fools!!!!
Who is the fool here? Do you take large doses of superultramegaduplex
HGH? Got any water pipe magnets in your house?
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>All of you fools who don't like Art or Whitley got no business posting
>in a newsgroup for their fans.
Illiterates have no business telling people where to post.
> When there
Where?
>no longer on the radio
>those of us who truly appreciate them will know right who to blame.
Bell himself.
>Grow up fools!!!!
Educate yourself. It isn't too late to get your GED.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
Just how high are you?
David R. Acree
don't like it because they get the truth out to the people of what is
really going on. You would rather not know the truth and want to
believe whatever Dan Rather and his ilk tells you. You are pathetic
losers with nothing better to do than whine in Art's group itself.
That is classless not to mention downright mean. Grow up for your own
good. If you would listen to Art, Whitley, or George you might at
long last learn what is really important. Enough said , I told my say
so flame me if you must but you know and everybody else knows I spoke
the truth.
David Acree.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:53:57 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote:
Carl R. Osterwald
da...@myownhouse.com whined and top posted:
>Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are world class newsmen.
You misspelled 'con men'.
You fools
>don't like it because they get the truth out to the people of what is
>really going on.
Whitless Strieber thinks that scientists don't understand why the sky is
black. Is that the kind of truth you want to get out?
>You are pathetic
>losers with nothing better to do than whine in Art's group itself.
Um, sorry, wrong. Art doesn't not 'own' Usenet.
>If you would listen to Art, Whitley, or George you might at
>long last learn what is really important.
Heh, this is quite amusing.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are world class newsmen. You fools
When did Dan Rather ever superglue his lips while on the air?
>don't like it because they get the truth out to the people of what is
>really going on. You would rather not know the truth and want to
What truth are you on about?
>believe whatever Dan Rather and his ilk tells you. You are pathetic
>losers with nothing better to do than whine in Art's group itself.
Art is afraid of what we would ask him. That's why we are here and he isn't.
>That is classless not to mention downright mean. Grow up for your own
I've never superglued my lips together.
>good. If you would listen to Art, Whitley, or George you might at
>long last learn what is really important. Enough said , I told my say
>so flame me if you must but you know and everybody else knows I spoke
>the truth.
No, you either posted a lame troll, or spouted emotions. No truths mentioned
at all.
David R. Acree
wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:48:49 -0600, David R. Acree <da...@myownhouse.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>When did Dan Rather ever superglue his lips while on the air?
"What's the frequency Kenneth?" Dan Rather did tell that outright
lie of a tale. (look it up, it is truly bizarre) So what's worse Art
doing a stupid thing ONCE or Rather telling lies on a regular basis
and pulling the wool over simpletons eyes so they never search for
answers or real truth?
>What truth are you on about?
The search for the truth about existance, the paranormal, and
extraterrestrials. Are you so mentally blind you believe in nothing
and don't seek answers. If so you really are a lost cause and you
need pity.
>I've never superglued my lips together.
So what? A lot of things are much worse . You NEVER did ANYTHING
stupid, Right?
>
>No, you either posted a lame troll, or spouted emotions. No truths mentioned
>at all.
Sherlock Holmes, you are not!!!!!!!!!
David R. Acree
wrote:
>In article <3f7ivu0iflp00n0lg...@4ax.com> David R. Acree,
>da...@myownhouse.com whined and top posted:
>Whitless Strieber thinks that scientists don't understand why the sky is
>black. Is that the kind of truth you want to get out?
So will the great Albert Einstein (you) please tell me why is the sky
black? If scientists don't know, you should enlighten them and all of
us since you're so very smart?
The Commentator
Buy any Y2K storable food? How about water pipe magnets? Ever pimp for
a bogus remote viewer? Promote the idea that NASA kills astronauts?
Better get some education while there is time.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:33:21 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:48:49 -0600, David R. Acree <da...@myownhouse.com> in
>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
>>their wisdom with:
>>
>
>>When did Dan Rather ever superglue his lips while on the air?
>
>"What's the frequency Kenneth?" Dan Rather did tell that outright
>lie of a tale. (look it up, it is truly bizarre)
See what I mean? I did a little research (unlike fArt, who takes his
guests at their word and NEVER challenges them). The attack
was carried out by William Tager, now in prison for killing an NBC
stagehand outside the Today show in 1994. Tager was convinced
the media had him under surveillance and were beaming hostile
messages to him, and he demanded that Rather tell him the
frequency being used, according to a forensic psychiatrist who
examined Tager after the NBC shooting. The Associated Press
reported that back in Jan 97, but for the passionately credulous like
you I suppose that is just part of the conspiracy, right?
>So what's worse Art
>doing a stupid thing ONCE or Rather telling lies on a regular basis
>and pulling the wool over simpletons eyes so they never search for
>answers or real truth?
Did Dan ever agree with a caller that atomic weapons tests in the
50s might be the cause of El NIno, a 500+ year old weather pattern?
Only fArt can be that stupid.
>>What truth are you on about?
>
>The search for the truth about existance, the paranormal, and
>extraterrestrials. Are you so mentally blind you believe in nothing
>and don't seek answers. If so you really are a lost cause and you
>need pity.
Where is any of the evidence of that? All I ever heard from Art's show
was anecdotal with the proof waiting to be revealed "any day now".
I noticed you didn't mention anything specific. Care to try to?
>>I've never superglued my lips together.
>
>So what? A lot of things are much worse . You NEVER did ANYTHING
>stupid, Right?
I never bragged about it, especially on the air.
>>No, you either posted a lame troll, or spouted emotions. No truths mentioned
>>at all.
>
>Sherlock Holmes, you are not!!!!!!!!!
Try me. Try us. There are a lot of well educated people from diverse
scientific backgrounds who are regular posters on this group that would
love to see what sort of evidence you have to back up the claims on
fArt's show. Something fArt himself is afraid to provide on his show.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:05:06 -0000, Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com>
Hey genius, scientists DO understand why the sky is black at night,
and blue in the day. Try educating yourself.
http://www.sciencenet.org.uk/database/Physics/9609/p00503d.html
http://www.why-is-the-sky-blue.org/why-is-the-sky-blue.html
Got those in seconds with a simple google search, something
fArt and Whitless seem unable to do.
After posting this jewel I will be amazed if you keep this up.
David R. Acree
important. Until I started listening to Art back in 1997 I was as
ignoarnt as some of these losers that post against Art in his own news
group (although I always had better manners than to do something like
that and the rest of the real fans need to speak out against such
tactics).
If you listen for one example to what Stan Deyo is telling right now,
you will gain perspectives you don't get from the local newspaper ot
the network news and its just as real and more important.
David Acree
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>All I am saying is open your eyes and ears and learn what is really
>important. Until I started listening to Art back in 1997 I was as
>ignoarnt as some of these losers that post against Art in his own news
>group (although I always had better manners than to do something like
>that and the rest of the real fans need to speak out against such
>tactics).
I was a listener back in 94 and listened to one after another doomsday
peddler like Dames and Scallion make big predictions that NEVER
happened. After 5 years of that crap I finally stopped listening. I couldn't
take anymore. How can you stand all the lies and ignorance on
that show?
>If you listen for one example to what Stan Deyo is telling right now,
>you will gain perspectives you don't get from the local newspaper ot
>the network news and its just as real and more important.
Perspectives like "scientists don't know why the sky is black at night"?
Stan Deyo is another one of the failed Y2K predictors. On his older
web site he used to claim that he was 70% to 90% accurate earthquake
predictor which is unmitigated bullshit (and probably why the site is
now down, but another that links to it still has the claim at this location:
http://www.keelynet.com/urls/url.htm). Hell, Deyo was one of those
original "planet alignment means doom" prophets back in 1978
and he failed at that shtick. His "Cosmic Conspiracy" has helped
fuel paranoia about freemasons and all sorts of conspiracies against
the common man that are complete and utter bullshit. Why do you
buy into crap like that? Why do you take the word of the guests on
Bell's show without checking them out? You seem to want to hang
on every word they say. Why are you afraid to do some investigation?
With your comment that I should listen to Deyo right now I can only
assume that you didn't think I knew anything about the man. You
were wrong. He is just another con artist like all the other con artists
that Bell promotes. Are you even aware that "Ghostwolf" is really
an italian-american who has no native indian blood named Robert
Franzone and he is a convicted felon? Bell knows that too, but doesn't
give a rats ass about his audience so continues to perpetrate the
promotion of frauds like Dames. How else can you explain how
Dames has been so consistently wrong and yet still come on the
show?
What is so important about failed predictions?
Carl R. Osterwald
da...@myownhouse.com writes:
>On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:05:06 -0000, Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3f7ivu0iflp00n0lg...@4ax.com> David R. Acree,
>>da...@myownhouse.com whined and top posted:
>
>>Whitless Strieber thinks that scientists don't understand why the sky is
>>black. Is that the kind of truth you want to get out?
>
>So will the great Albert Einstein (you) please tell me why is the sky
>black?
It's actually pretty simple, no need to invoke relativity. Ever hear of
Lord Rayleigh? Disfuse sky radiation is caused by scattering as sunlight
passes through air molecules. At night, this large sunshade we call the
Earth blocks the Sun, so no scattering, and the sky is black.
>If scientists don't know,
With this statement, I see you buy into Strieber's nonsense hook, line,
and sinker. *He* is the one who thinks this is some kind of deep
mystery, no one else.
>you should enlighten them
Assuming 'them' indicates real scientists with actual training, no
need. 'They' should be quite capable of educating themselves.
>and all of us
I just did. And Doc gave you a couple easily-found links, so now you
can figure it out for yourself.
>since you're so very smart?
Actually, I'm not. I've just had the benefit of a decent college
education.
The real question is this: why does your hero Whitley make wild
statements like this? What does this say for his credibility about
other subjects?
Clave
news:k6iivug3cej1rp63t...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:33:21 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:48:49 -0600, David R. Acree <da...@myownhouse.com> in
> >accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us
of
> >their wisdom with:
> >
>
> >When did Dan Rather ever superglue his lips while on the air?
>
> "What's the frequency Kenneth?" Dan Rather did tell that outright
> lie of a tale. (look it up, it is truly bizarre)
It's strange, yeah. Why do you think it's a lie?
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,613,00.html
Jim
Clave
<...>
> Until I started listening to Art back in 1997 I was as ignoarnt
> as some of these losers...
This statment deserves a spotlight.
Jim
Dr H
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, David R. Acree wrote:
}Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are world class newsmen.
You misspelled "conmen."
}You fools don't like it because they get the truth out to the people of what
}is really going on.
Whatever gave you the idea that I don't like them? I *love* Art Bell;
I find his show highly entertaining. Whitley Strieber, not so much.
}You would rather not know the truth and want to believe
}whatever Dan Rather and his ilk tells you.
I already know the truth.
}You are pathetic losers with nothing better to do than whine in Art's group
}itself. That is classless not to mention downright mean. Grow up for your
}own good. If you would listen to Art, Whitley, or George you might at long
}last learn what is really important. Enough said , I told my say so flame
}me if you must but you know and everybody else knows I spoke the truth.
I do listen to them. I also listen to Rush Limbaugh, Michael Toms,
and even George W. Bush, on occasion. Doesn't mean I necessarily
/believe/ their BS, but I do listen. I like to know what the less
stable members of my community are thinking.
Dr H
The Commentator
I can get the same perspective from the kook who stands on the
streetcorner and shouts that the end is near.
I don't need the kook perspective, thanks.
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:47:46 -0600, "WhitleyStrieber
Fan@someplaceinKentucky" <WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky>
wrote:
>Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
>
>Art called me about a month ago to tell me that Premiere was using the
>occassion of his retirement to cancel Dreamland. This did not surprise
>me. When their parent company, Clear Channel, bought the Matt Drudge
>program, they were planning to cancel Dreamland. It was only the
>intervention of Art Bell and his partner Alan Corbeth that prevented
>this.
>
>Instead, Clear Channel moved Dreamland to Saturday night. This was
>done with virtually no notice to stations. As a result, Dreamland lost
>about fifty stations and for a time the schedule was in chaos. But the
>efforts of Alan Corbeth's staff in the Medford, Oregon office got the
>situation fixed. However, Premiere never gave the program any
>affiliate support and made no effort to sell advertising on it.
>
>The program has always been popular with listeners, and had reached a
>count of 240 stations, many of them large stations, at the time of its
>cancellation. However, because it was not being given any advertising
>support, it was not making money. Our only advertiser, Steven Halpern,
>has had success with the show, but this did not move Premiere to do
>anything more.
>
>There are more than a few reasons for their lack of support of
>Dreamland. The first one is that they do not like my voice. They
>consider it too thin. For them, voice is first, content second. In the
>years I was host of Dreamland, Premiere never once tried to influence
>my content. In fact, if I wanted ideas about content, I had to
>actually solicit advice. I was free to do as I pleased.
>
>I had a regular exchange of emails with Kraig Kitchin, the president
>of Premiere at first, but this ended when an announcement by me that
>listeners should inquire of Premiere if they had problems with the end
>of our live internet feed unexpectedly resulted in a flood of hostile
>email to Mr. Kitchin. I think that he blamed me for unleashing my
>listeners on him, which I certainly did not intend to do.
>
>Another thing that rankled was the tremendous success of
>Unknowncountry.com. When I was with Keith Rowland, Premiere's
>webmaster, I could not get the attention I needed because he was
>stretched pretty thin just managing the huge Art Bell website. Then,
>when I left him, there were difficulties that boiled over on-air, and
>this did not make Mr. Kitchin happy, either.
>
>Over the years, Unknowncountry has grown into the largest and most
>popular website of its kind in the world, far eclipsing all the
>others, and this success has been an irritant. The Whitleysworld
>website that I had with Premiere got about thirty thousand hits a
>month. Last month, Unknowncountry.com got seventeen million hits, and
>it is experiencing an explosive growth rate of 250% per year.
>
>This success screams that I am some sort of missed opportunity, and
>far outstrips the success of Dreamland. The site reaches a much larger
>audience than the broadcast radio program.
>
>The reasons for the cancellation, however, go deeper than these minor
>irritants. The first reason is that, while the show has been popular
>with listeners, my approach to radio interviewing scares management
>because it is so different from what usually succeeds. Success comes
>from the simple, the shocking and the extreme, not the complex, the
>provocative and the moderate. In addition, the corporate culture of
>Clear Channel Communications, of which Premiere is a part, is
>ideologically committed, and I am not. I am suspicious of extremes of
>both left and right. History--which is in the process of repeating
>itself at present--shows that they do nothing but harm. So I will not
>present the kind of politically colored programming that might have
>made Clear Channel value me more.
>
>The second reason has to do with Saturday night itself. Dreamland
>owned Saturday night. There was nothing else in radio doing anything
>at all in that time period, and the other networks I went to in my
>effort to get the show picked up were unanimous in their verdict: it's
>just not a time period worth working for. They all felt that they
>could make the show profitable. But the amount of profit that could be
>gotten out of a Saturday night program just would not make the effort
>worthwhile.
>
>Worse, nobody thought that they could succeed in moving the program
>back to Sunday night. Although the programming that Clear Channel has
>in there now is not exactly burning up the ratings books, it is
>ideologically congenial with the rest of the company, and that means
>that they will go above and beyond the call to preserve it.
>
>I am not going to stop doing Dreamland, as long as I can afford to run
>it. My own personal commitment to my work is tremendous. This is
>because of the years I spent in relationship with the visitors, and my
>respect for them and the nobility of their aims. The lady whose
>portrait appears on the cover of Communion is a very real person. I
>consider her to be the best, the most conscious, the most brilliant
>and the strongest person I have ever known. She represents an ancient
>excellence that has placed touching faith in mankind, and I will never
>betray her charge to me, and never stop carrying out the task she put
>to me.
>
>I also know that my life and work follow a plan created by her and her
>kind, and the brilliant world that stands silently behind them. For
>example, tt was an agony for me to have my cabin in upstate New York
>taken from me, but coming to Texas opened important new horizons. I
>believe that I was sent here primarily to meet and work with Bill
>Mallow, which I did for seven years. His recent passing ends my reason
>for being here, and tells me that there will be other changes in my
>life as well. What form they will take, I do not know.
>
>A deeper reaons behind the cancellation may have to do with a process
>of filtering that I have seen at work in my connection to the public.
>I think that people are being winnowed out, and that my work is some
>kind of a concealed testing process. Communion was read by twelve
>million people worldwide. But then something happened. I had been a
>popular, well and widely reviewed author. Communion even received a
>good review in the New York Times.
>
>I was told that the Times Book Review received a lot of angry comment
>from the paper's own science staff over this review. My book was taken
>to be a lie written to get money, a literary fraud. Nothing I said
>could change this because nobody of any note culturally dared to
>disagree, not even those who knew the falsity of the charge.
>
>Nothing I have ever written since Communion has received wide review.
>Instead, the mad culture of the press has taken it upon itself to be
>silent about Whitley Strieber, or publish nasty reviews, in order to
>punish me for my alleged literary fraud.
>
>As a result, Transformation was read by five million people,
>Breakthrough by just six hundred thousand. By the time Confirmation
>came along, my media exposure had degenrated into a grotesque
>identification of me as in the rectal probe man, thanks to cartoons
>like South Park and the Simpsons. When I appeared on Politically
>Incorrect in 2001, I was greeted by a sleazy, testosterone-soaked
>comedian hammering away at me with rectal probe jokes. This is what
>was left of Whitley Strieber in the media. The general public now
>dismisses me, if not as a fraud, then as an idiot.
>
>But the process of filtering is not just generated by the
>narrow-minded intellectuals and brainless fools of the media. It is
>orchestrated, I think, by the visitors. For example, even though my
>website gets hundreds of thousands of visitors, barely two thousand
>people have ever bought a copy of the Key, and only one thousand six
>hundred have bought the Path, and many of them have complained that it
>is 'too hard.' These people went on my own message boards with their
>complaints, and effectively killed the Path, which was undoubtedly
>their intention. The book is profoundly, deeply freeing of the human
>spirit, and there are so very many people who don't want that, who
>fear it in their own souls, or who are consciously opposed to it, that
>such a tool has very little chance of being taken up by many. (If on
>reading this, you want to take it up, as you should, click here.
>
>The visitors are using me and my work as a kind of sieve. In the end,
>they will find the few hundred people who can actually use the path
>and live on it, and if contact comes in this generation, it will be
>these people who lead mankind into a new world. I know from experience
>what they will be like: gentle, open-minded people with impeccable
>spirits.
>
>Not only the visitors are isolating me. The dark side of this is doing
>the same thing, just as it is doing everything possible to spread fear
>about the visitors, and will do more. The closer contact comes, the
>more it will come to seem that they are a murderous, bizarre and
>unspeakable horror. That, however, is false, and it will always be
>false.
>
>However, it is also true that their dark side is part of them. This is
>not a simple matter, and simple minds are going to fail in their
>efforts to grapple with it. How could it be that something so good
>would also, for example, be responsible for ugly things like
>mutilations of animals and possible murder?
>
>I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
>scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
>nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
>darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
>also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
>manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
>
>The aim of the dark side, insofar as it is concerned with me, is to
>silence me because I speak on behalf of human freedom, the advance of
>mankind into the cosmos, and the moral elevation of the human spirit.
>
>It has the high ground: the government and corporate America, insofar
>as they are is involved in contact, serve the dark side. Both do so
>for the same misguided reason: they worry about maintaining control
>over the population in the context of the new world that contact would
>bring.
>
>If the government cannot deny the existence of the visitors, it will
>spread false stories that it has an 'inside track,' in the form of
>secret contact with them. It will also spread stories that they are a
>dangerous presence, and that, if we are to survive contact, we must
>look to our government for protection.
>
>The truth is that the government doesn't have any sort of an inside
>track. What it has is fear, misinformation and confusion. The people
>who claim that the visitors are a hive, for example, or that they are
>a bunch of cruel, emotionless monsters carrying out mindless
>scientific experiments on us, or that they eat souls or even that they
>eat us, are serving an official purpose: they are spreading the fear
>that will induce people to turn to the government for help if contact
>ever comes.
>
>In reality, there are a lot of ordinary people out there who know more
>than the most highly cleared intelligence agents and military
>personnel. This is especially true among people who are soul-aware, in
>contact, and in control of their own imaginations. They are mankind's
>leading edge, these people.
>
>I am not going to depart too far in this entry from the reasons that
>Dreamland lost its broadcast outlet. But the way in which the program
>approached the visitors, with a calm and open-minded attitude toward
>both the light and dark side of the phenomenon, cannot have been
>appreciated by government insiders. My version of Dreamland was about
>the end of the dark, warlike and controlling government that we have
>now, and the establishment of a new commonwealth of free souls, the
>band of human sisters and brothers who one day will venture out into
>God's tremendous garden, taking with them the superb gift that this
>earth is seeking to give to the universe: the soul of man.
>
>Insofar as it was, in the depths of our spiritual reality, devoted to
>that aim, which is also the aim of my being and my life, Dreamland was
>hated and feared, and doomed to be silenced.
>
>But--we're like roaches, people like you and me. Step on us and we
>learn to flatten ourselves out. Spray us and we breed children who
>actually thrive on the spray. Irradiate us and we learn to eat
>radiation for our supper. We will not be silenced, never quite, never
>entirely.
>
>And, in the end, somehow, the future will find a way to accommodate
>the human soul in the glory for which it has been created.
>
>A NOTICE FROM UNKNOWNCOUNTRY.COM
>
>The latest Dreamland Online appears every Saturday afternoon at 3PM.
>You can listen any time thereafter as long as a given program remains
>available, usually for a month. You can turn off your computer, then
>later return to the point at which you stopped listening at any time.
>
>For those of you who want to begin to listen to Dreamland Online and
>have never done this before, it's quite simple. You need to install
>Windows Media Player on your computer and then click on the Listen Now
>button on the upper right hand side of the masthead. If you have
>WebTV, you cannot listen to internet broadcasting of any kind, but
>there is a Windows Media Player for the Mac. We also maintain a
>station at Live365.
Paranormal Seeker
next to last of the editions for regular broadcast radio. Premiere,
What were you thinking??????? You should keep this wise good man on
the radio for everybody to learn from!!!!!!!
DrPostman
futuretobe.com> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes
Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>Sad to say that tonight's "Dreamland with Whitley Strieber" is the
>next to last of the editions for regular broadcast radio. Premiere,
>What were you thinking??????? You should keep this wise good man on
>the radio for everybody to learn from!!!!!!!
You ought to start seeking a brain first, especially for quoting all that
damned text, you shitass.
Paranormal Seeker
Whitley. They can't post a coherent reply so they use foul language
and resort to name calling. Art Belland Whitley Strieber are giants
and you sir," Dr. Postman" should hang your head in shame. You
definitely are not in the same league as them!!!!!
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:10:01 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote:
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<paranormalseeker@the futuretobe.com> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>This just goes to show the mentality of those who don't like Art or
>Whitley. They can't post a coherent reply so they use foul language
>and resort to name calling.
Fuck you, and the unicorn you rode in on.
>Art Belland Whitley Strieber are giants
>and you sir," Dr. Postman" should hang your head in shame.
You misspelled "gnats". HTH.
>You definitely are not in the same league as them!!!!!
No, he's not, and neither am I, I hope.
--
V.G.
"I have not be me idiot you are still BE idiot! hahhahhahahahah!"
Theo <byj...@ch.inter.net> in alt.fan.art-bell
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
randy stiefer
Paranormal Seeker > wrote in message ...
>This just goes to show the mentality of those who don't like Art or
>Whitley. They can't post a coherent reply so they use foul language
>and resort to name calling. Art Belland Whitley Strieber are giants
>and you sir," Dr. Postman" should hang your head in shame. You
>definitely are not in the same league as them!!!!!
I can tell you from long witness that Drpostman is simply envious of
people like Art and Whitley who can make a living by using their minds and
communication
skills , while DrPostman is well into his third decade of lugging sacks of
(to him)
unreadable missives to the doorsteps of the well-heeled.
Being the Christmas season he is the more burdened by extra packages
that he has to deliver with a smile to his betters.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>I can tell you from long witness that Drpostman is simply envious of
>people like Art and Whitley who can make a living by using their minds and
>communication
Why would I have aspirations of supergluing my lips together, and then
admitting it on the air?
>skills , while DrPostman is well into his third decade of lugging sacks of
>(to him)
>unreadable missives to the doorsteps of the well-heeled.
>Being the Christmas season he is the more burdened by extra packages
>that he has to deliver with a smile to his betters.
Daymn but I do wish I worked as a carrier.
DrPostman
futuretobe.com> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes
Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>This just goes to show the mentality of those who don't like Art or
>Whitley. They can't post a coherent reply so they use foul language
>and resort to name calling. Art Belland Whitley Strieber are giants
>and you sir," Dr. Postman" should hang your head in shame. You
>definitely are not in the same league as them!!!!!
Bad troll. Go spank yourself.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:24:05 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>I can tell you from long witness that Drpostman is simply envious of
>>people like Art and Whitley who can make a living by using their minds and
>>communication
>
>Why would I have aspirations of supergluing my lips together, and then
>admitting it on the air?
>
>
>>skills , while DrPostman is well into his third decade of lugging sacks of
>>(to him)
>>unreadable missives to the doorsteps of the well-heeled.
>>Being the Christmas season he is the more burdened by extra packages
>>that he has to deliver with a smile to his betters.
>
>
>Daymn but I do wish I worked as a carrier.
Well , you could. Just unglue your lips and learn to smile again and they
might let you deal with the public again.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>Well , you could. Just unglue your lips and learn to smile again and they
>might let you deal with the public again.
I refuse to do like you did and follow Art's example.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>Well , you could. Just unglue your lips and learn to smile again and they
>>might let you deal with the public again.
>
>
>I refuse to do like you did and follow Art's example.
Refusing to Succeed
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DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:36:01 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
>us of
>>their wisdom with:
>>
>>
>>>Well , you could. Just unglue your lips and learn to smile again and they
>>>might let you deal with the public again.
>>
>>
>>I refuse to do like you did and follow Art's example.
>
>
>Refusing to Succeed
>DrPostman's new book!
Written exclusively for you.
>This slim volume reveals Drpostman's many Strategies For Failure and as an
>added bonus details
>many Government Programs whereby you can be given thoiusands of dollars to
>help you
>Avoid Responsiblity For You Inactions!
>Buy a Failed Business
>Change your name to a brand new unblemished one.
>Train for a Go No Where Job.
You have followed my instructions well.
randy stiefer
But, I haven't fucked off or died yet.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>But, I haven't fucked off or died yet.
God put me here to task you.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>But, I haven't fucked off or died yet.
>
>
>God put me here to task you.
God put you here because His knick knack shelf is reserved for important
things only.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:50:18 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
>us of
>>their wisdom with:
>>
>>
>>>But, I haven't fucked off or died yet.
>>
>>
>>God put me here to task you.
>
>
>God put you here because His knick knack shelf is reserved for important
>things only.
>
Therefore I task you.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <8s7j0vo2fa0rr66fh...@4ax.com>...
>On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 07:47:21 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:50:18 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
availed
>>us of
>>>their wisdom with:
>>>
>>>
>>>>But, I haven't fucked off or died yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>God put me here to task you.
>>
>>
>>God put you here because His knick knack shelf is reserved for important
>>things only.
>>
>
>
>Therefore I task you.
Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>
But you aren't white.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>>
>
>
>
>But you aren't white.
White am I then?
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:38:54 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
>us of
>>their wisdom with:
>>
>>
>>>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>But you aren't white.
>
>
>White am I then?
>
Gray.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <0o0m0vk9k3q395m7a...@4ax.com>...
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:06:07 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:38:54 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
availed
>>us of
>>>their wisdom with:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>But you aren't white.
>>
>>
>>White am I then?
>>
>
>
>Gray.
You misspelled grey.
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>
>DrPostman wrote in message <0o0m0vk9k3q395m7a...@4ax.com>...
>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:06:07 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
>us of
>>their wisdom with:
>>
>>>
>>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:38:54 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
>availed
>>>us of
>>>>their wisdom with:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But you aren't white.
>>>
>>>
>>>White am I then?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Gray.
>
>
>You misspelled grey.
No, I must have added the "r" by mistake.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <2fbn0v4tvrdm25rnh...@4ax.com>...
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:23:19 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message <0o0m0vk9k3q395m7a...@4ax.com>...
>>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:06:07 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
availed
>>us of
>>>their wisdom with:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:38:54 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com> in
>>>>>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
>>availed
>>>>us of
>>>>>their wisdom with:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Right , you're a regular White Man's Burden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>But you aren't white.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>White am I then?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Gray.
>>
>>
>>You misspelled grey.
>
>No, I must have added the "r" by mistake.
There are no misteaks. You're just shy and don't know how to ask me for a
date.
(Wotta sick-oh)
DrPostman
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:
>There are no misteaks. You're just shy and don't know how to ask me for a
>date.
>(Wotta sick-oh)
>
How do you live with your unrequited love for me?
randy stiefer
Baron Lurk wrote in message <1ain0voojcqnoejn5...@4ax.com>...
>On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:47:35 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>There are no misteaks. You're just shy and don't know how to ask me for a
>>date.
>
>projectile vomiting.
>
Sure, you just can't weight to choke on my T-bone.
randy stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>
>>There are no misteaks. You're just shy and don't know how to ask me for a
>>date.
>>(Wotta sick-oh)
>>
>
>
>How do you live with your unrequited love for me?
I wrap it in barbed wire and keep it in my pants.
randy stiefer
Baron Lurk wrote in message <3ijp0v0bu2hplth7t...@4ax.com>...
>On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:39:19 GMT, "randy stiefer" <c...@spamonr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Sure, you just can't weight to choke on my T-bone.
>
>to find it in all of the rolls of fat, so she could lead you around by
>it.
>
>We just though she had you put a Prince Albert in it so she could find
>it with the metal detector and attach a chain to it. But a handle
>works so much better.
I object your use of the non-inclusive and discrimatory use of the term
phagat.
You should know you are providing an unneeded impetus for others
to engage in gay-bashing against law-abiding queers.
E. L.
as he obviously has higher standards than either Strieber or Bell.
They're in their own league and I'm sure very few would want to be their
equal. You gotta be lower than whale shit to be in their league.
Gullible minds are their goal. Are you gullible? You gotta be with a
handle like Paranormal Seeker!
-----------------------------------------------------
Re: From Whitley's Journal-Abour the Cancellation of "Dreamland"
Group: alt.fan.art-bell Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2002, 11:57am (EST-1) From:
paranormalseeker@the futuretobe.com (Paranormal Seeker)
E. L.
Re: From Whitley's Journal-Abour the Cancellation of "Dreamland"
paranormalseeker@the futuretobe.com (Paranormal Seeker)
Sad to say that tonight's "Dreamland with Whitley Strieber" is the next
to last of the editions for regular broadcast radio. Premiere, What were
you thinking??????? You should keep this wise good man on the radio for
everybody to learn from!!!!!!!
el: "Wise good man? What the hell have you been smoking?"
<snip>The lady whose portrait appears on the cover of Communion is a
very real person.
el: "So is Meier's Pleaidian whose image was taken from a Dean Martin
show dancer!"
<sniip>Communion was read by twelve million people worldwide. But then
something happened. I had been a popular, well and widely reviewed
author. Communion even received a good review in the New York Times.
el: "New fiction, when well done as his previous books, will usually
bring good reviews."
I was told that the Times Book Review received a lot of angry comment
from the paper's own science staff over this review. My book was taken
to be a lie written to get money, a literary fraud. <snip>
el: "When anyone claims that they've had experiences with non-humans,
something has to give."
Nothing I have ever written since Communion has received wide review.
el: "The subject got boring fast!"
Unknown
region where ultimate truth will be found.
I pity people like you refuse to seek answers to the greatest of
mysteries. Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are indeed as you say in
their own league. Few are fortunate enough to be in that league but I
am proud to say I am a member. I consider Art and Whitley (as well as
Richard C. Hoagland ) to be truthtellers and although I have never
personally met them great friends for their services to all humanity
through their writings, philosophy, research, and radio broadcasts.
There are answers to great questions which need to be and will be
answered but such answers will be attained in spite of the narrow
minded simpletonian mindset of you and those like you. You are right
about one thing, you are definitely not the equal of any truthseeker.
. On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:34:18 -0500 (EST), nyce...@webtv.net (E.
Unknown
for centuries to come while people like you will be long forgotten.
Paranormal Seeker
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:30:02 -0500 (EST), nyce...@webtv.net (E. L.)
wrote:
>
>Re: From Whitley's Journal-Abour the Cancellation of "Dreamland"
>
>Group: alt.fan.art-bell Date: Sat, Dec 21, 2002, 11:26pm (EST-1) From:
>paranormalseeker@the futuretobe.com (Paranormal=A0Seeker)
DrPostman
(paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>I am a seeker of truth and the paranormal is the great unexplored
>region where ultimate truth will be found.
>
>I pity people like you refuse to seek answers to the greatest of
>mysteries. Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are indeed as you say in
>their own league. Few are fortunate enough to be in that league but I
>am proud to say I am a member. I consider Art and Whitley (as well as
>Richard C. Hoagland ) to be truthtellers and although I have never
>personally met them great friends for their services to all humanity
>through their writings, philosophy, research, and radio broadcasts.
>
>There are answers to great questions which need to be and will be
>answered but such answers will be attained in spite of the narrow
>minded simpletonian mindset of you and those like you. You are right
>about one thing, you are definitely not the equal of any truthseeker.
Try some basic science. It can do wonders towards explaining most
of those.
DrPostman
(paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>You sir are an ignoarnt simpleton. Whitley and Art will be remembered
>for centuries to come while people like you will be long forgotten.
>
>Paranormal Seeker
Silly troll, go spank yourself.
Paranormal Seeker
broadcast edition of "Dreamland with Whitley Strieber". Starting next
week the show will be heard only online through the internet and no
longer on regular radio stations (at least until Premiere comes to
their senses). Paranormal Seeker ---
Year End Predictions Blowout
William Henry, Jim Marrs, Linda Howe, Dr. Roger Leir--four of our most
popular, most articulate, most amazing guests give us their
expectations for 2003, tell us what they're working on, and their
worst fears and greatest hopes for the future.
Do not miss what these four brilliant pioneers have to say about
what's going to happen next. Unlike the pundits you'll hear babbling
away in the conventional media, they're highly likely to be right! And
for sure, surprising in the extreme.
So, Linda Howe, what's going to happen in the crop circle world. Given
the rising complexity and detail of the communication, are we about to
see a landing? And if so, what will it mean?
And Jim Marrs, just how is the world really going to be working next
year? Is there a conspiracy between big media, big oil and the Saudis
that's about to transform the U.S. into an oil slave? If so, tell us
what we can do about it.
William Henry, you've illuminated us about the secret occult practices
of the power elite. So, now that a member of the inner circle is once
again running the country, what will happen?
And Roger Leir, what implant surgeries do you have planned for the
coming year, and how do you explain the untimely deaths of crucial
scientists who work with you? Are others in danger? What about you?
And what ARE implants, anyway?
This will be the last broadcast dreamland--IF it goes out over the
airwaves. As you know, last week our ISDN line was interrupted. And
yet, SBC tells us that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. So,
what gives--is Whitley being silenced just when he might cut loose?
Maybe. But one thing is certain: when Dreamland goes all online, TOTAL
FREEDOM will prevail! You know what it's like when he cuts loose, and
he's going to be doing that every week from now on. Get ready for one
wild ride on Dreamland Online starting NEXT WEEK!
>>On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:47:46 -0600, "WhitleyStrieber
>>Fan@someplaceinKentucky" <WhitleyStrieber Fan@someplaceinKentucky>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Whitley's Journal-Monday, November 18th 2002-
>>>
>>>Art called me about a month ago to tell me that Premiere was using the
>>>occassion of his retirement to cancel Dreamland. This did not surprise
>>>me. When their parent company, Clear Channel, bought the Matt Drudge
>>>program, they were planning to cancel Dreamland. It was only the
>>>intervention of Art Bell and his partner Alan Corbeth that prevented
>>>this.
>>>
>>>Instead, Clear Channel moved Dreamland to Saturday night. This was
>>>done with virtually no notice to stations. As a result, Dreamland lost
>>>about fifty stations and for a time the schedule was in chaos. But the
>>>efforts of Alan Corbeth's staff in the Medford, Oregon office got the
>>>situation fixed. However, Premiere never gave the program any
>>>affiliate support and made no effort to sell advertising on it.
>>>
>>>The program has always been popular with listeners, and had reached a
>>>count of 240 stations, many of them large stations, at the time of its
>>>cancellation. However, because it was not being given any advertising
>>>support, it was not making money. Our only advertiser, Steven Halpern,
>>>has had success with the show, but this did not move Premiere to do
>>>anything more.
>>>
>>>There are more than a few reasons for their lack of support of
>>>Dreamland. The first one is that they do not like my voice. They
>>>consider it too thin. For them, voice is first, content second. In the
>>>years I was host of Dreamland, Premiere never once tried to influence
>>>my content. In fact, if I wanted ideas about content, I had to
>>>actually solicit advice. I was free to do as I pleased.
>>>
>>>I had a regular exchange of emails with Kraig Kitchin, the president
>>>of Premiere at first, but this ended when an announcement by me that
>>>listeners should inquire of Premiere if they had problems with the end
>>>of our live internet feed unexpectedly resulted in a flood of hostile
>>>email to Mr. Kitchin. I think that he blamed me for unleashing my
>>>listeners on him, which I certainly did not intend to do.
>>>
>>>Another thing that rankled was the tremendous success of
>>>Unknowncountry.com. When I was with Keith Rowland, Premiere's
>>>webmaster, I could not get the attention I needed because he was
>>>stretched pretty thin just managing the huge Art Bell website. Then,
>>>when I left him, there were difficulties that boiled over on-air, and
>>>this did not make Mr. Kitchin happy, either.
>>>
>>>Over the years, Unknowncountry has grown into the largest and most
>>>popular website of its kind in the world, far eclipsing all the
>>>others, and this success has been an irritant. The Whitleysworld
>>>website that I had with Premiere got about thirty thousand hits a
>>>month. Last month, Unknowncountry.com got seventeen million hits, and
>>>it is experiencing an explosive growth rate of 250% per year.
>>>
>>>This success screams that I am some sort of missed opportunity, and
>>>far outstrips the success of Dreamland. The site reaches a much larger
>>>audience than the broadcast radio program.
>>>
>>>The reasons for the cancellation, however, go deeper than these minor
>>>irritants. The first reason is that, while the show has been popular
>>>with listeners, my approach to radio interviewing scares management
>>>because it is so different from what usually succeeds. Success comes
>>>from the simple, the shocking and the extreme, not the complex, the
>>>provocative and the moderate. In addition, the corporate culture of
>>>Clear Channel Communications, of which Premiere is a part, is
>>>ideologically committed, and I am not. I am suspicious of extremes of
>>>both left and right. History--which is in the process of repeating
>>>itself at present--shows that they do nothing but harm. So I will not
>>>present the kind of politically colored programming that might have
>>>made Clear Channel value me more.
>>>
>>>The second reason has to do with Saturday night itself. Dreamland
>>>owned Saturday night. There was nothing else in radio doing anything
>>>at all in that time period, and the other networks I went to in my
>>>effort to get the show picked up were unanimous in their verdict: it's
>>>just not a time period worth working for. They all felt that they
>>>could make the show profitable. But the amount of profit that could be
>>>gotten out of a Saturday night program just would not make the effort
>>>worthwhile.
>>>
>>>Worse, nobody thought that they could succeed in moving the program
>>>back to Sunday night. Although the programming that Clear Channel has
>>>in there now is not exactly burning up the ratings books, it is
>>>ideologically congenial with the rest of the company, and that means
>>>that they will go above and beyond the call to preserve it.
>>>
>>>I am not going to stop doing Dreamland, as long as I can afford to run
>>>it. My own personal commitment to my work is tremendous. This is
>>>because of the years I spent in relationship with the visitors, and my
>>>respect for them and the nobility of their aims. The lady whose
>>>portrait appears on the cover of Communion is a very real person. I
>>>consider her to be the best, the most conscious, the most brilliant
>>>and the strongest person I have ever known. She represents an ancient
>>>excellence that has placed touching faith in mankind, and I will never
>>>betray her charge to me, and never stop carrying out the task she put
>>>to me.
>>>
>>>I also know that my life and work follow a plan created by her and her
>>>kind, and the brilliant world that stands silently behind them. For
>>>example, tt was an agony for me to have my cabin in upstate New York
>>>taken from me, but coming to Texas opened important new horizons. I
>>>believe that I was sent here primarily to meet and work with Bill
>>>Mallow, which I did for seven years. His recent passing ends my reason
>>>for being here, and tells me that there will be other changes in my
>>>life as well. What form they will take, I do not know.
>>>
>>>A deeper reaons behind the cancellation may have to do with a process
>>>of filtering that I have seen at work in my connection to the public.
>>>I think that people are being winnowed out, and that my work is some
>>>kind of a concealed testing process. Communion was read by twelve
>>>million people worldwide. But then something happened. I had been a
>>>popular, well and widely reviewed author. Communion even received a
>>>good review in the New York Times.
>>>
>>>I was told that the Times Book Review received a lot of angry comment
>>>from the paper's own science staff over this review. My book was taken
>>>to be a lie written to get money, a literary fraud. Nothing I said
>>>could change this because nobody of any note culturally dared to
>>>disagree, not even those who knew the falsity of the charge.
>>>
>>>Nothing I have ever written since Communion has received wide review.
>>>Instead, the mad culture of the press has taken it upon itself to be
>>>silent about Whitley Strieber, or publish nasty reviews, in order to
>>>punish me for my alleged literary fraud.
>>>
>>>As a result, Transformation was read by five million people,
>>>Breakthrough by just six hundred thousand. By the time Confirmation
>>>came along, my media exposure had degenrated into a grotesque
>>>identification of me as in the rectal probe man, thanks to cartoons
>>>like South Park and the Simpsons. When I appeared on Politically
>>>Incorrect in 2001, I was greeted by a sleazy, testosterone-soaked
>>>comedian hammering away at me with rectal probe jokes. This is what
>>>was left of Whitley Strieber in the media. The general public now
>>>dismisses me, if not as a fraud, then as an idiot.
>>>
>>>But the process of filtering is not just generated by the
>>>narrow-minded intellectuals and brainless fools of the media. It is
>>>orchestrated, I think, by the visitors. For example, even though my
>>>website gets hundreds of thousands of visitors, barely two thousand
>>>people have ever bought a copy of the Key, and only one thousand six
>>>hundred have bought the Path, and many of them have complained that it
>>>is 'too hard.' These people went on my own message boards with their
>>>complaints, and effectively killed the Path, which was undoubtedly
>>>their intention. The book is profoundly, deeply freeing of the human
>>>spirit, and there are so very many people who don't want that, who
>>>fear it in their own souls, or who are consciously opposed to it, that
>>>such a tool has very little chance of being taken up by many. (If on
>>>reading this, you want to take it up, as you should, click here.
>>>
>>>The visitors are using me and my work as a kind of sieve. In the end,
>>>they will find the few hundred people who can actually use the path
>>>and live on it, and if contact comes in this generation, it will be
>>>these people who lead mankind into a new world. I know from experience
>>>what they will be like: gentle, open-minded people with impeccable
>>>spirits.
>>>
>>>Not only the visitors are isolating me. The dark side of this is doing
>>>the same thing, just as it is doing everything possible to spread fear
>>>about the visitors, and will do more. The closer contact comes, the
>>>more it will come to seem that they are a murderous, bizarre and
>>>unspeakable horror. That, however, is false, and it will always be
>>>false.
>>>
>>>However, it is also true that their dark side is part of them. This is
>>>not a simple matter, and simple minds are going to fail in their
>>>efforts to grapple with it. How could it be that something so good
>>>would also, for example, be responsible for ugly things like
>>>mutilations of animals and possible murder?
>>>
>>>I can only answer that question indirectly: did you know that
>>>scientists do not understand why the night sky is dark? We should see
>>>nothing by a uniform bright glow. Instead, we see stars shining out in
>>>darkness. When we understand the physics of of the night sky, we will
>>>also understand the true nature of evil, and why the visitors would
>>>manifest in such a contradictory way--why they would have to.
>>>
>>>The aim of the dark side, insofar as it is concerned with me, is to
>>>silence me because I speak on behalf of human freedom, the advance of
>>>mankind into the cosmos, and the moral elevation of the human spirit.
>>>
>>>It has the high ground: the government and corporate America, insofar
>>>as they are is involved in contact, serve the dark side. Both do so
>>>for the same misguided reason: they worry about maintaining control
>>>over the population in the context of the new world that contact would
>>>bring.
>>>
>>>If the government cannot deny the existence of the visitors, it will
>>>spread false stories that it has an 'inside track,' in the form of
>>>secret contact with them. It will also spread stories that they are a
>>>dangerous presence, and that, if we are to survive contact, we must
>>>look to our government for protection.
>>>
>>>The truth is that the government doesn't have any sort of an inside
>>>track. What it has is fear, misinformation and confusion. The people
>>>who claim that the visitors are a hive, for example, or that they are
>>>a bunch of cruel, emotionless monsters carrying out mindless
>>>scientific experiments on us, or that they eat souls or even that they
>>>eat us, are serving an official purpose: they are spreading the fear
>>>that will induce people to turn to the government for help if contact
>>>ever comes.
>>>
>>>In reality, there are a lot of ordinary people out there who know more
>>>than the most highly cleared intelligence agents and military
>>>personnel. This is especially true among people who are soul-aware, in
>>>contact, and in control of their own imaginations. They are mankind's
>>>leading edge, these people.
>>>
>>>I am not going to depart too far in this entry from the reasons that
>>>Dreamland lost its broadcast outlet. But the way in which the program
>>>approached the visitors, with a calm and open-minded attitude toward
>>>both the light and dark side of the phenomenon, cannot have been
>>>appreciated by government insiders. My version of Dreamland was about
>>>the end of the dark, warlike and controlling government that we have
>>>now, and the establishment of a new commonwealth of free souls, the
>>>band of human sisters and brothers who one day will venture out into
>>>God's tremendous garden, taking with them the superb gift that this
>>>earth is seeking to give to the universe: the soul of man.
>>>
>>>Insofar as it was, in the depths of our spiritual reality, devoted to
>>>that aim, which is also the aim of my being and my life, Dreamland was
>>>hated and feared, and doomed to be silenced.
>>>
>>>But--we're like roaches, people like you and me. Step on us and we
>>>learn to flatten ourselves out. Spray us and we breed children who
>>>actually thrive on the spray. Irradiate us and we learn to eat
>>>radiation for our supper. We will not be silenced, never quite, never
>>>entirely.
>>>
>>>And, in the end, somehow, the future will find a way to accommodate
>>>the human soul in the glory for which it has been created.
>>>
>>>A NOTICE FROM UNKNOWNCOUNTRY.COM
>>>
>>>The latest Dreamland Online appears every Saturday afternoon at 3PM.
>>>You can listen any time thereafter as long as a given program remains
>>>available, usually for a month. You can turn off your computer, then
>>>later return to the point at which you stopped listening at any time.
>>>
>>>For those of you who want to begin to listen to Dreamland Online and
>>>have never done this before, it's quite simple. You need to install
>>>Windows Media Player on your computer and then click on the Listen Now
>>>button on the upper right hand side of the masthead. If you have
>>>WebTV, you cannot listen to internet broadcasting of any kind, but
>>>there is a Windows Media Player for the Mac. We also maintain a
>>>station at Live365.
>
Paranormal Seeker
Year End Predictions Blowout
>>>kind of a concealed testing process. Communion was read by twelve
>>>million people worldwide. But then something happened. I had been a
>>>popular, well and widely reviewed author. Communion even received a
>>>good review in the New York Times.
>>>
>>>I was told that the Times Book Review received a lot of angry comment
>>>from the paper's own science staff over this review. My book was taken
>>>to be a lie written to get money, a literary fraud. Nothing I said
>>>could change this because nobody of any note culturally dared to
>>>disagree, not even those who knew the falsity of the charge.
>>>
>>>Nothing I have ever written since Communion has received wide review.
E. L.
what does ignoarnt mean? I can't be forgotten, I was on the TONIGHT
SHOW with Johnny Carson! I'm part of history also.
----------------------------------------------------
Re: From Whitley's Journal-About the Cancellation of "Dreamland"
Group: alt.fan.art-bell Date: Sat, Dec 28, 2002, 8:07pm (EST+5) From:
Paranormal Seeker (paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com)
Paranormal Seeker
like the idiots who attempted to "stump the band". They were all
losers. I on the other hand have had articles published in
publications like Fate Magazine.
Paranormal Seeker
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:34:39 -0500 (EST), nyce...@webtv.net (E. L.)
Paranormal Seeker
wrote:
Paranormal Seeker
learned from it but even more can be learned from the study of the
unexplained and paranormal. This is an obvious truth that most
mainstram Scientists refuse to acknowledge publicly although they most
likely admit it among themselves.
Paranormal Seeker
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 23:21:55 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:46:29 GMT, Paranormal Seeker
Paranormal Seeker
some strange reason)-
I am very familiar with Science in all of its forms. Much can be
learned from it but even more can be learned from a study of the
unexplained and paranormal. This is an obvious truth that most
mainstream Scientists refuse to acknowledge but most likely admit it
among themselves privately.
Paranormal Seeker
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>I am a seeker of truth and the paranormal is the great unexplored
>region where ultimate truth will be found.
Unless it's all bullshit...
--
V.G.
"I have not be me idiot you are still BE idiot! hahhahhahahahah!"
Theo <byj...@ch.inter.net> in alt.fan.art-bell
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
DrPostman
What?
DrPostman
Seeker) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
availed us of their wisdom with:
>I am very familiar with Science in all of its forms. Much can be
>learned from it but even more can be learned from the study of the
>unexplained and paranormal. This is an obvious truth that most
>mainstram Scientists refuse to acknowledge publicly although they most
>likely admit it among themselves.
No it isn't, you top posting wanker. Scientists love researching the
unknown and other mysteries. They don't like wasting time researching
something that just a little basic science can answer most of the time.
Paranormal Seeker
I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from. There is not a
shread of truth in most of your statements and none whatsoever in your
reply below. You question nothing and accept everything the major
media dishes out to you. You are a simpleton without many equals.
Paranormal Seeker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:00:59 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote:
Cap'n TrVth
"Paranormal Seeker" <paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com> wrote in message
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This is awesome, you got da magic touch Postie.. They must be drawn to the
pic.
-Cap
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DrPostman
<paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>Herr Doktor, You are one of the most ignoarnt misinformed individuals
>I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from. There is not a
>shread of truth in most of your statements and none whatsoever in your
>reply below. You question nothing and accept everything the major
>media dishes out to you. You are a simpleton without many equals.
I question everything, and you offer nothing. "When you believe in
things that you don't understand then you suffer", even a blind man
has more sense than you.
Paranormal Seeker
fans? That says a lot about you and those like you.
Paranormal Seeker
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:42:45 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote:
The Commentator
>
> I am a seeker of truth and the paranormal is the great unexplored
> region where ultimate truth will be found.
>
If you seek truth, why listen to Bell, Witless and Hoaxland? Your
statements are not rational.
The Commentator
>
> You are a simpleton without many equals.
But somehow you managed to rise to the challenge.
Paranormal Seeker
truthtellers. Why some can not see the forrest for the trees is a
great tragedy.
Paranormal Seeker
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>Herr Doktor, You are one of the most ignoarnt misinformed individuals
>I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from. There is not a
>shread of truth in most of your statements and none whatsoever in your
>reply below. You question nothing and accept everything the major
>media dishes out to you. You are a simpleton without many equals.
>
>Paranormal Seeker
"You're not really here for the hunting, are you?"
>
>
>On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:00:59 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:14:20 GMT, paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com (Paranormal
>>Seeker) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"
>>availed us of their wisdom with:
>>
>>>I am very familiar with Science in all of its forms. Much can be
>>>learned from it but even more can be learned from the study of the
>>>unexplained and paranormal. This is an obvious truth that most
>>>mainstram Scientists refuse to acknowledge publicly although they most
>>>likely admit it among themselves.
>>
>>No it isn't, you top posting wanker. Scientists love researching the
>>unknown and other mysteries. They don't like wasting time researching
>>something that just a little basic science can answer most of the time.
--
Paranormal Seeker
nefarious purposes does not make it so. The newsgroup was meant for
Art's fans and they can, should, and most probably will retake it. If
you are not a fan of Art's you should post somewhere else and leave
this site to fans of Art Bell, Whitley Strieber, Richard C. Hoagland,
and fans of the subject matter they discuss. Those of you who are not
already totally lost causes might even learn a few things and be
converted from total ignorance!!!!!!!!!
Paranormal Seeker
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:13:20 GMT, Baron Lurk
<Baro...@spam-not.attbi.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:52:20 -0600, Paranormal Seeker
><paranorm...@thefuturetobe.com> wrote:
>
>>Why do you post against Art in a newsgroup which was meant for his
>>fans? That says a lot about you and those like you.
>
>You're new here, bunky. We''ll give ya this one.
>
> NOTICE TO POSTERS!
>
>This group is called alt.fan.art-bell. It's for talking about Art
>Bell, his radio show (and replacement hosts de jour), his/their/its
>guests, and whatever else we choose to discuss. We've got more than
>enough foolishness right here in this group without having to go
>trolling for more.
>
>Unfortunately, every nutcake crystal-rubbing, bunny-hugging,
>tree-sitting, tofu-eating, Volvo-driving, whale-watching, New-Age,
>backyard-preaching, Bible-thumping, god-bothering, bigfoot-chasing,
>spoon-bending, remote-viewing, star-gazing, reverse-swearing,
>reptile-fucking, carpet-munching, fudge-packing, toad-licking,
>goat-sucking, Clinton-loving, Bush-hating, flame-trolling,
>pamphlet-peddling, horoscope-reading, alien abductee seems to
>think it's fun to post his or her dreck into afa-b.
>
>Not only that, but we're also plagued by every goddam hypocritical,
>brain-dead, mega-dittoing, Reagan-worshipping, Newtie-following,
>Clinton-bashing, Hillary-hating, gun-hugging, miltia-joining,
>bunny-bopping, forest-raping, earth-paving, river-damming,
>species-exterminating, ozone-trashing, pickup-with-gun-rack-driving,
>Medicare-killing, traffic-fine-avoiding, mind-controlling,
>Bush-loving, urban-legend-quoting, trickle-downing, "liberal"-hating,
>gay-bashing, femiNazi-spewing, hate-spouting, Bible-quoting,
>Moral Mafia, jack-booted, cross-burning, Klan-joining, Commie-baiting,
>conspiracy-theorist, neo-Nazi, crypto-Fascist, radical-right-wing
>ditto-head that comes down the pike.
>
>Then, when a few of us shred these fatheads to bits by debunking their
>favorite fantasy, they start whining.
>
>Please lurk before you make an ass of yourself, then:
>
>If you can't stand the heat, stay the hell out of our newsgroup.
>
> "This is not a gentle place."
>
>In the interest of evenhandedness, and to enjoy one of our
>favorite kooks rants, we also present The Woo Woo View:
>
>"AFAB = alt.fan.art-bell newsgroup. It is a prime example of
>a gathering place for hooded, cowardly, government/media
>disinformation agents who operate behind multiple aliases as they
>prey on others, intimidating and misdirecting attention away from
>those who engage in serious dialog. It is a meeting place of
>ignoramuses who seek to promote the Bassackward societal traits
>of irresponsibility, violence, human degradation, and ignorance
>under the guise of Free Speech." By Ray "Linenoise" Karczewski
>
>If STILL you ask "Where the hell is the FAQ" then go read
>that poor old outdated relic from our earlier days here:
>http://whiskeytown.net/curiosities/airstream/afab-faq.php
>
>Hope This Helps.
>
>(Revised 10/21/2001)
Clave
news:8ma21vsj60547sdud...@4ax.com...
>
> Just because some of Art's enemies post that this newsgroup is for
> nefarious purposes does not make it so. The newsgroup was meant for
Heh.
Bring it on.
Jim
The Commentator
The quality of their fans says all one needs to know about the qualities
of the three loons you worship.