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Mark Joyce

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Mar 19, 2002, 7:17:35 PM3/19/02
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Hey you frogs, remember what a chore it was for the US to get Ira Einhorn
back? Payback time now. So you don't want Maussaoui get the DP, eh? Too
fucking bad. So that ditch pig Marylise Lebranchu wants to alter a 9/11
probe information gathering agreement with the US because some of the
info may put him on death row. You really are a bunch of hapless morons.
Maybe the next time someone wants to blow up the Eiffel tower we'll
forget to give you a heads up.

Euroguy

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"Mark Joyce" <mf...@cornell.edu>
??????:MPG.17019f149...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...

Do you know that some Islamist terrorists tried to blow up the Eiffel tower
with a hijacked airplane in 1994? Fortunately, French secret services are
more efficient than the CIA and this could be prevented.

Now, as far as Moussaoui is concerned, I believe he is a perfect scapegoat
for the terrorist attacks. He may have been accomplice for the
planification, but he did not perform them.

Sentencing to death someone for being accomplice of murder is abject and is
something you, as American, should be ashamed of.

Euro


Earl Evleth

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Mar 21, 2002, 8:53:53 AM3/21/02
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Dans l'article <MPG.17019f149...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Mark
Joyce <mf...@cornell.edu> a écrit :

Greetings from one of the hapless moron frogs. The main resistance in this
case right now seems to be coming less from the French government, which
agreed to let the American investigators come, and even issued summons to
some of the people they wanted to talk to, than with Moussaoui's family.
His brother, mother, and sister received summonses. They refused to respond
once they discovered that the main purpose of these interviews was to build
the prosecution's case for the death penalty against their family member.
This is a tough one. What would you, as a family member, do?

Donna Evleth

JIGSAW1695

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Mar 21, 2002, 1:22:41 PM3/21/02
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Subject: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: "Earl Evleth" dev...@noos.fr
Date: 3/21/2002 5:53 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <3c99d7b9$0$2292$79c1...@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net>

Donna Evleth
===============================

Probably the same thing. Even if they did show up, it is doubtful that they
would tell the truth.

Donna Evleth

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Mar 21, 2002, 2:55:33 PM3/21/02
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Dans l'article <20020321132241...@mb-cf.aol.com>,
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) a écrit :

Jiggy, you're honest, and I admire that. I also remember your good Italian
family that you described. I thought that it sounded like you guys have a
lot of fun. Us WASPS often miss out, I think.

Donna Evleth

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re : Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: "Donna Evleth" dev...@noos.fr
Date: 3/21/2002 11:55 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Donna Evleth


=============================

That we did, Donna, That we did.

A Planet Visitor

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"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Lest any Europeans think that the U.S. is NOT aware
of the hypocrisy of France in respect to Moussaoui,
Take a look at this column from today in the Orlando Sentinel.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-edpbrown22032202mar22.story

This is the beginning of the column ---

"The French are known as much for their serious shortage
of backbone as for their wine, cheese and champagne.
The image of the gluttonous, wine-swilling French -- dependable
only in their unreliability -- is a stereotype I have always
enjoyed.

But even with such a low opinion of a country that many
elites see as the cradle of culture, I am outraged by the
latest, and little-known, French affront to the United States.

The French are insisting on a last-minute stipulation to their
previously signed agreement to cooperate in the investigation
of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the
Pentagon. They're in a snit that Zacarias Moussaoui, a
French citizen of Moroccan descent charged in those
attacks, might be subject to the death penalty.

French Justice Minister Marylise Lebranchu, echoing the
French view that executing a killer of 3,000 people would
be barbaric, is telling U.S. authorities she will insist that,
despite the U.S.-French agreement, France won't help
if this becomes a death-penalty case.

Remi Marechaux, a French Embassy spokesman in
Washington, denied that his government was threatening
to review its cooperation. But, when pressed, he acknowledged
that France would cooperate only "under the condition that
any information we provide won't be used" in a capital case.
U.S. investigators have been in France, where they counted
on the cooperation of the French government, trying to find
out more about Moussaoui and his alleged terrorist ties.

I don't know about you, but it strikes me that the French
are trying to wiggle out of a previously signed agreement --
an accord that provided for no such exceptions.

So what's the United States to do?

Here's an idea."

<Rest of article clipped>

Peter Brown -- Orlando Sentinel.

Lest Europeans think that affronts which represent
hypocrisy on the part of nations on the Continent are
going unnoticed in the U.S. The French CANNOT
tell the U.S. how to conduct its Judicial System,
anymore than the U.S. can tell France how to conduct
ITS Judicial System.

PV


JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@noos.fr
Date: 3/23/2002 3:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Le Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:31:01 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a écrit
:

{ snip }

> Lest any Europeans think that the U.S. is NOT aware
> of the hypocrisy of France in respect to Moussaoui,
> Take a look at this column from today in the Orlando Sentinel.
> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-edpbrown22032202mar22.story

{ snip puerile anti-French troll }

Put another way, France prevented the United States from trying Ira
Einhorn in what might have been a capital case. France most certainly
_did_ tell the United States how to run its ... sorry, it's judicial
system, and the American's are rather miffed about this. That didn't ...
sorry, didnt stop them from doing as they were told.

I digress. Just wondering something ... Mr Moussaoui was arrested
_before_ the events of '911' (sic), so how can he be charged with murder ?
Or are the charges simply _conspiracy_ to commit murder ? This can entail
a death sentence in the United States, unless I'm not mistaken, but if the
video that the Bush administration fabricat^H^H^Hreleased is to be
believed, then none of the hijackers knew what the mission was, until they
got onto the aircraft. So how can Mr Moussaoui be charged with anything
other than conspiracy to commit a hijacking ?

--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
=============================

Someone had to be in charge of the cell and give them orders.

John Rennie

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snipped


> >
> Lest Europeans think that affronts which represent
> hypocrisy on the part of nations on the Continent are
> going unnoticed in the U.S. The French CANNOT
> tell the U.S. how to conduct its Judicial System,
> anymore than the U.S. can tell France how to conduct
> ITS Judicial System.
>
> PV
>
>

Didn't the USA behave similarly towards Canada
pre Furmann?


JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@noos.fr
Date: 3/23/2002 6:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Le 23 Mar 2002 12:08:17 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :

{ snip }

>> So how can Mr Moussaoui be charged with anything other than conspiracy
>> to commit a hijacking ?

> Someone had to be in charge of the cell and give them orders.

Wasn't that the job of that bloke Matta, or Natta, or whatever ?

--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
=============================

Different cutouts. Eighteen men are to many for one person to control.

JIGSAW1695

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From: "John Rennie" j.re...@ntlworld.com
Date: 3/23/2002 6:41 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <Mu0n8.2221$QR.2...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>

========================

Probably. And they loved every minute of it.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:31:01 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > Lest any Europeans think that the U.S. is NOT aware
> > of the hypocrisy of France in respect to Moussaoui,
> > Take a look at this column from today in the Orlando Sentinel.
> > http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-edpbrown22032202mar22.story
>
> { snip puerile anti-French troll }
>
Or one may call it a 'sign of the times.'

> Put another way, France prevented the United States from trying Ira
> Einhorn in what might have been a capital case.

Rubbish... a typical rewrite of fact. The DP was NEVER
'on the table' in respect to the murder Ira Einhorn is
accused of committing. Even your buddy Earl knows
that.

> France most certainly
> _did_ tell the United States how to run its ... sorry, it's judicial
> system, and the American's are rather miffed about this. That didn't ...
> sorry, didnt stop them from doing as they were told.
>

Obviously, no rational argument is contained in those
meaningless words.

> I digress.

You generally do...

> Just wondering something ... Mr Moussaoui was arrested
> _before_ the events of '911' (sic), so how can he be charged with murder ?
> Or are the charges simply _conspiracy_ to commit murder ? This can
> entail
> a death sentence in the United States, unless I'm not mistaken, but if the
> video that the Bush administration fabricat^H^H^Hreleased is to be
> believed, then none of the hijackers knew what the mission was, until they

> got onto the aircraft. So how can Mr Moussaoui be charged with anything


> other than conspiracy to commit a hijacking ?
>

Demonstrating nothing other than your ignorance of the
law. While, proving again that 'Coughlan' is Scottish for Nixon.

PV

> --
> Desmond Coughlan |DP SUPPORTER #1

Mark Joyce

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Mar 24, 2002, 11:06:06 AM3/24/02
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In article <3c99d7b9$0$2292$79c1...@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net>,
dev...@noos.fr says...

>
>
> Dans l'article <MPG.17019f149...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Mark
> Joyce <mf...@cornell.edu> a écrit :
>
>
> > Hey you frogs, remember what a chore it was for the US to get Ira Einhorn
> > back? Payback time now. So you don't want Maussaoui get the DP, eh? Too
> > fucking bad. So that ditch pig Marylise Lebranchu wants to alter a 9/11
> > probe information gathering agreement with the US because some of the
> > info may put him on death row. You really are a bunch of hapless morons.
> > Maybe the next time someone wants to blow up the Eiffel tower we'll
> > forget to give you a heads up.
>
> Greetings from one of the hapless moron frogs.

You have my sympathy.

> The main resistance in this
> case right now seems to be coming less from the French government, which
> agreed to let the American investigators come, and even issued summons to
> some of the people they wanted to talk to, than with Moussaoui's family.

The news report I read made no mention of them.

> His brother, mother, and sister received summonses. They refused to respond
> once they discovered that the main purpose of these interviews was to build
> the prosecution's case for the death penalty against their family member.
> This is a tough one. What would you, as a family member, do?

I would obey the law and answer the summons.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:24:43 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> { snip puerile anti-French troll }
>
> > Or one may call it a 'sign of the times.'
>
> There are regrettably few constants in life, Jedro, but I'm somewhat
> gratified to come back after my short absence, and to note that you
> _still_ couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper bag.
>
I can just picture you at your computer when you type the
word 'debate.' Perhaps developing an embarrassed, awkward
hand to the mouth, clear-the-throat cough, in self-conscious
shame for even typing the word, and presuming you have
EVER provided food for 'debate.' Like Judas... you will be
remembered in this newsgroup, as all that is base, malignant,
treacherous, unnatural and blasphemous with the single
monosyllable: 'dezi.' Those four letters say it all in respect
to any presumption that you have the capacity to 'debate.'
'dezi' and 'debate' form the most absurd oxymoron one
can imagine.

In fact, you are vampire-like. You are a guy who has had
a stake driven though his heart in EVERY 'debate.' I mean,
really NAILED to the bottom of a garlic-filled/crucifix-laden
coffin with a wooden stake, and a silver bullet through the
forehead, for good measure. And you KEEP COMING BACK
for more!!! What is the LIMIT of your shame? Obviously, those
are depths we do not wish to plumb.

PV

> Desmond Coughlan |THE GHOUL WHO WILL NOT DIE#1

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:34:17 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> >> >> { snip puerile anti-French troll }
>
Sounded like a fair analysis to me. It hardly constitutes
'debate' to just clip it and call it a 'troll.' But we've come to
expect that from your 'debates.'

> >> > Or one may call it a 'sign of the times.'
>
> >> There are regrettably few constants in life, Jedro, but I'm somewhat
> >> gratified to come back after my short absence, and to note that you
> >> _still_ couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper bag.
>
> > I can just picture you at your computer when you type the
> > word 'debate.'
Perhaps developing an embarrassed, awkward
hand to the mouth, clear-the-throat cough, in self-conscious
shame for even typing the word, and presuming you have
EVER provided food for 'debate.' Like Judas... you will be
remembered in this newsgroup, as all that is base, malignant,
treacherous, unnatural and blasphemous with the single
monosyllable: 'dezi.' Those four letters say it all in respect
to any presumption that you have the capacity to 'debate.'
'dezi' and 'debate' form the most absurd oxymoron one
can imagine.

> > In fact, you are vampire-like. You are a guy who has had
> > a stake driven though his heart in EVERY 'debate.'
I mean, really NAILED to the bottom of a garlic-filled/crucifix-laden
coffin with a wooden stake, and a silver bullet through the
forehead, for good measure. And you KEEP COMING BACK
for more!!! What is the LIMIT of your shame? Obviously, those
are depths we do not wish to plumb.
>

> Jedro the hypocrite ... claiming victory, and then using his copy-and-
> pasted 'seminal observation', when others point out that he's been beaten.
>
dezi the 'Rosemary's Baby of AADP' --- Blessed with all the
wit and charm of what we would have expected from the issue
of an immaculate conception, between Fidel Castro and
Groucho Marx --- continues his descent into oblivious ignorance.
This is his idea of 'debate.'

> Heh ... I had forgotten how easy it was to beat you ...

That 'heh' sounds a little pathetic, dezi. You don't remember
what you had for breakfast, much less anything else, sport.

PV

>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |DP SUPPORTER #1

Seems as if I'm the one who always finds it necessary to clip
YOUR 'copy and paste' Spam.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:15:06 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip Jedro's copying and pasting, slapping himself on the back, and
> other self-congratulatory claptrap }
>
> Oops ... nothing left.
>
Leaving in proof of dezi's intelligence. Oops.... nothing there.

> /*BEGIN COPY AND PASTE
> ROTFLMAO
> END COPY AND PASTE */
>

Except his idiot savant ability to 'copy and paste.'

OtheRDAS

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Now, as far as Moussaoui is concerned, I believe he is a perfect scapegoat
for the terrorist attacks. He may have been accomplice for the
planification, but he did not perform them.
Sentencing to death someone for being accomplice of murder is abject and is
something you, as American, should be ashamed of.
Euro
=============

It's called conspiracy and it's just as bad. Your argument is almost like
saying Hitler and Eichman didn't personally pull the trigger (or toss in poison
capsules) to kill any Jews so they are not guilty of Genocide. I find that
totally disgusting. I'm glad this SOB who plotted to kill lots of people will
pay for his crime.

otherdas

Mark Joyce

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In article <slrna9rqv2.6k6.p...@tortue.voute.net>,
pasdespa...@noos.fr says...

> Le 23 Mar 2002 19:10:44 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Wasn't that the job of that bloke Matta, or Natta, or whatever ?
>
> > Different cutouts. Eighteen men are to many for one person to control.
>
> Are prosecutors claiming that this individual was a ringleader ?

He is the "20th hijacker". The only reason he did not board a plane is
because he was such a dumbfuck that before 9/11 he related to some people
that he wanted to learn how to takeoff and fly a plane but not land it.
He was promptly arrested. I am not surprised at all the he is a french
citizen.

John Rennie

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le 26 Mar 2002 06:37:21 GMT, OtheRDAS <othe...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> > It's called conspiracy and it's just as bad. Your argument is almost
like
> > saying Hitler and Eichman didn't personally pull the trigger (or toss in
poison
> > capsules) to kill any Jews so they are not guilty of Genocide. I find
that
> > totally disgusting. I'm glad this SOB who plotted to kill lots of people
will
> > pay for his crime.
>
> I'm still wondering why, in the video released by the United States
> government, Mr bin Laden is apparently seen confirming that none of the
> terrorists knew what was about to happen until they got onto the aircraft,
> and yet this individual is being tried for murder ...

He didn't say 'none', Desmond, he said 'most'. If you really think
about it, it could hardly be 'none', could it?

A Planet Visitor

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"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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When has ANYONE ever accused dezi of 'thinking about it'?
His post is just another keeper in a long list of his 'kwazy
komments'


PV

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Mar 28, 2002, 12:58:07 PM3/28/02
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In article <slrnaa1pkq.c9g.p...@tortue.voute.net>,
pasdespa...@noos.fr says...

> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:21:27 -0500, Mark Joyce <mf...@cornell.edu> a écrit :
>
> >> >> Wasn't that the job of that bloke Matta, or Natta, or whatever ?
>
> >> > Different cutouts. Eighteen men are to many for one person to control.
>
> >> Are prosecutors claiming that this individual was a ringleader ?
>
> > He is the "20th hijacker". The only reason he did not board a plane is
> > because he was such a dumbfuck that before 9/11 he related to some people
> > that he wanted to learn how to takeoff and fly a plane but not land it.
> > He was promptly arrested. I am not surprised at all the he is a french
> > citizen.
>
> Feel better, Mark ..?

Absolutely, and even "mo' better" now that the US has decided to seek the
DP for this slimeball. BTW, with the recent mass murder how long do you
think it will be before France bans guns?

John Rennie

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:23:43 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> > I'm still wondering why, in the video released by the United States
> >> > government, Mr bin Laden is apparently seen confirming that none of
the
> >> > terrorists knew what was about to happen until they got onto the
aircraft,
> >> > and yet this individual is being tried for murder ...
>
> >> He didn't say 'none', Desmond, he said 'most'. If you really think
> >> about it, it could hardly be 'none', could it?
>
> > When has ANYONE ever accused dezi of 'thinking about it'?
> > His post is just another keeper in a long list of his 'kwazy
> > komments'
>
> Bwaaahahahahaaa !!!!
>
> John, don't bend over in the showers ... :-(

Instead of being stupid, how about admitting that
your statement that "Mr bin Laden is apparently seen


confirming that none of the terrorists knew what was

about to happen until they got onto the aircraft" was
incorrect? Start here and then you might be able
to enter the real world and leave your insane
conspiracy theories behind you.


JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@noos.fr
Date: 3/28/2002 9:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnaa6kpp.hd3.p...@tortue.voute.net>

Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:23:43 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a écrit
:

{ snip }

>> > I'm still wondering why, in the video released by the United States
>> > government, Mr bin Laden is apparently seen confirming that none of the
>> > terrorists knew what was about to happen until they got onto the aircraft,
>> > and yet this individual is being tried for murder ...

>> He didn't say 'none', Desmond, he said 'most'. If you really think
>> about it, it could hardly be 'none', could it?

> When has ANYONE ever accused dezi of 'thinking about it'?
> His post is just another keeper in a long list of his 'kwazy
> komments'

Bwaaahahahahaaa !!!!

John, don't bend over in the showers ... :-(

/*BEGIN COPY AND PASTE


ROTFLMAO
END COPY AND PASTE */

--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 '
==============================

Yea...especially with Dezi behind you. But then you are safe as long as you at
least fifteen.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:23:43 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> > I'm still wondering why, in the video released by the United States
> >> > government, Mr bin Laden is apparently seen confirming that none of the
> >> > terrorists knew what was about to happen until they got onto the
aircraft,
> >> > and yet this individual is being tried for murder ...
>
> >> He didn't say 'none', Desmond, he said 'most'. If you really think
> >> about it, it could hardly be 'none', could it?
>
> > When has ANYONE ever accused dezi of 'thinking about it'?
> > His post is just another keeper in a long list of his 'kwazy
> > komments'
>
> Bwaaahahahahaaa !!!!
>
Calm down... rutting season is just around the corner.

> John, don't bend over in the showers ... :-(
>

Malice contains its own venom... and poisons only
the mind of the one who offers such malice. It cannot
harm the one intended to harm, but only demonstrates
the base character of the one offering such malice. :-(

PV

> Desmond Coughlan |SICK FUCK #1

A Planet Visitor

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Its laissez faire attitude toward its OWN affairs, yet its obsession
with the affairs of others, are obviously instinctively self-destructive.


"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message

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> Le Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:58:07 -0500, Valued Gateway Client <mf...@cornell.edu>
a écrit :
>
> { snip }


>
> >> > He is the "20th hijacker". The only reason he did not board a plane is
> >> > because he was such a dumbfuck that before 9/11 he related to some people
> >> > that he wanted to learn how to takeoff and fly a plane but not land it.
> >> > He was promptly arrested. I am not surprised at all the he is a french
> >> > citizen.
>
> >> Feel better, Mark ..?
>
> > Absolutely, and even "mo' better" now that the US has decided to seek the
> > DP for this slimeball. BTW, with the recent mass murder how long do you
> > think it will be before France bans guns?
>

> It can't come soon enough.
>
Who actually CARES whither goes France??? Sometimes I
am convinced the French don't care as well. It is a country
ripe for take-over by a dictator... which would undoubtedly
suit many foreigners living in France. Its laissez faire
attitude toward its OWN affairs, yet its obsession with the
affairs of others, are obviously instinctively self-destructive.
A country that is not prepared to defend its own principles
and citizens, but quite willing to become subservient to the
will of others, can hardly be called anything other than
'slaves.' I weep for France. Destroyed from within by those
not even French.


PV

> --
> Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
> desmond @ noos.fr |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
> http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/
> Clé Publique : http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/pgp/pubring.pkr
>

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:14:18 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>

> >> Oops ... nothing left.
>
> > Leaving in proof of dezi's intelligence. Oops.... nothing there.
>
> No one could ever accuse you of being original. Or intelligent. Or
> funny. Or sane. Or effective. Or ... in fact, anything, other than a
> boring old sanctimonious, altar-boy shagging Bible-basher.
>
> What a shame.

Yes, you are. A shameful stain on our species. The more
you tell lies, the more important it becomes for you to justify
those lies by claiming a deep moral commitment to what
you now call 'principles.' When in fact, you would hope those
lies mask who and what you ACTUALLY are --- A rather
depraved specimen of our species. It doesn't play, sport,
because everyone here knows that I hold very little in
reverence including a Creator, whose very objective has been
to create murderers as well as victims. Certainly I cannot
respect a Creator who foisted YOU upon this insignificant
planet. Nor am I a believer in ANYTHING in the Bible as
'factual evidence' of anything, except in a very loose historical
context. And I find your reference to 'altar-boy shagging,'
simply similar to dirt's observation that he orally copulated
with my Mother. Laughably demonstrating that YOU have
now shown you are the 'pervert,' through your words.

A Planet Visitor

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"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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That will NEVER happen. Like Earl, Craig, Peter,
Ivan, YMT, euroguy, dirt and an endless host of others
here, whose egos PREVENT them from EVER admitting
they know not what they speak of, dezi could NEVER
admit that he had done so. Remember the meaningless
'the dead' and 'the memory of the dead'? The man is
HOPELESS. And he is a liar. Not just ONE lie, which
abolitionists seem to find themselves obsessing over as
to the possibility of it being a lie in another case. But
an entire compendium of arguments filled with a thousand
deceits and a hundred perverted presentations. The sooner
that other abolitionists call him out on EVERY ONE of his
lies, as they obsessively do with ONE particular argument
from the other side, the sooner they will be respected for
character.

PV

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@noos.fr
Date: 3/29/2002 4:17 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnaaa1dn.2qh.p...@tortue.voute.net>

Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a écrit
:

> Its laissez faire attitude toward its OWN affairs, yet its obsession
> with the affairs of others, are obviously instinctively self-destructive.

URL:http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/response_to_jedro_post.mp3

/*BEGIN COPY AND PASTE
ROTFLMAO
END COPY AND PASTE */

--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
===============================

/*BEGIN DELETE DEZI
DELETE DEZI
END DELETE DEZI

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip Jedro's post which can be summed up as ...}
>
> 'You're all bad men, picking on me !!!'
>

Actually it was ME picking on your insanity. Repeating
that insanity --

"Yes, you are. A shameful stain on our species. The more
you tell lies, the more important it becomes for you to justify
those lies by claiming a deep moral commitment to what
you now call 'principles.' When in fact, you would hope those
lies mask who and what you ACTUALLY are --- A rather
depraved specimen of our species. It doesn't play, sport,
because everyone here knows that I hold very little in
reverence including a Creator, whose very objective has been
to create murderers as well as victims. Certainly I cannot
respect a Creator who foisted YOU upon this insignificant
planet. Nor am I a believer in ANYTHING in the Bible as
'factual evidence' of anything, except in a very loose historical
context. And I find your reference to 'altar-boy shagging,'
simply similar to dirt's observation that he orally copulated
with my Mother. Laughably demonstrating that YOU have
now shown you are the 'pervert,' through your words."


PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |BRAIN DEAD #1

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> > Its laissez faire attitude toward its OWN affairs, yet its obsession
> > with the affairs of others, are obviously instinctively self-destructive.
>
> URL:http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/response_to_jedro_post.mp3

dezi has a new toy. He read a book on IT. But it's still
more childishness. It must be tough to fear death,
have no friend, ride a bicycle, and have a wife that hates
your ass. Plus be totally clueless in respect to truth and
lies.

PV

> Desmond Coughlan |NEEDS MENTAL HELP #1

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> What a shame.
>
> > Yes, you are.
>
> URL:http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/response_to_jedro_post.mp3
>

dezi has a new toy. He read a book on IT. But it's still
more childishness. It must be tough to fear death,
have no friend, ride a bicycle, and have a wife that hates
your ass. Plus be totally clueless in respect to truth and
lies.

PV

> --

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> John, don't bend over in the showers ... :-(
>
> > Malice

> <nothing to report>

Repeating --


Malice contains its own venom... and poisons only
the mind of the one who offers such malice. It cannot
harm the one intended to harm, but only demonstrates
the base character of the one offering such malice. :-(

Our dear dezi no longer needs to be laughed at, but
needs our pity. A cold, arrogant and ruthless image
who has been exhausting himself chasing after me.
And Jigsaw as well. A pitiful little twerp who has already
acknowledged he doesn't have a clue, and is only here
to inspire and lead ignorance, at which he is a proven
expert. My having shown him how stupid it is to *plonk*
someone, has caught him between the logical 'rock and
the hard place." Unable to address my posts with anything
other than meaningless claptrap, yet fearful of being
recognized as stupid for announcing *plonk* as he previously
did to those who disagreed with him. Like a rat caught
with no hole to escape into, it's rather interesting to
watch his frantic maneuvers, and childish demonstrations
of pathetic one-line meaningless replies, unable to form
a comprehendible thought.

Consider this a clinical experiment in the aggressive,
psychologically pathetic needs of deziloo -- a deeply
disturbed human. Similar to the case study I performed
on dirt, here in Usenet, when I examined the extent of
his rage. Doing so, perhaps we might also find the
source of dezi's rage at life as well, if we delve deeper
into his psyche. His fear of death, and his obsessive
need to pretend he has a full life, are our first clues.
Certainly, one having such a full life, would not find an
almost pathological need to keep remarking on it, and
keep attacking the lives of others, in fearful comparisons
obviously meant to cast an image of perfection on his
probably meaningless existence. It seems obvious
that a lot must have to do with the fact that he has noticed
that his French 'friends,' spit on the ground when he
happens to turn his back. And this lack of acceptance,
so necessary to the fantasy he has built around this
'imaginary perfection,' has only fueled his illness. In
addition, it is obvious that his neurosis based fear of
death have probably helped to provide the impetus for
his views on the DP. We need to note how violently,
and emotionally he reacted when shown what he had
hidden even from himself. This neurotic fear of death!!!
Obviously, it would help if dezi recognized the extent of
his mental disability. But this may be asking 'too
much -- too soon.'

Given the backward state of the French mental health
system, it's clear that we here can probably provide
better assistance to him than any 'quack' in France.
Let's all try to help dezi understand more clearly the
source of his affliction. It's the least we can do for our
fellow man. Let me assure you that I'll do my part, and
I believe Jigsaw and John Rennie will as well. Now, if
I could only enlist the help of St. George who has many
years experience dealing with delusion.

PV

Euroguy

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Mar 30, 2002, 2:58:13 AM3/30/02
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"OtheRDAS" <othe...@aol.com>
??????:20020326013721...@mb-mp.aol.com...

My dear amator of nice comparisons,

It seems to me that, by comparing Moussaoui with Hitler or Eichmann, you are
giving Moussaoui an honour he doesn't deserve.

Moussaoui is little fish in al-Qeada's organization. He did not commanditate
those acts and there are even no proof that he took part in preparing them.

Besides, the fact he was in jail several weeks before they took place shows
that his participation, if proved, was not necessary for those acts to be
(successfully, alas) committed.

Euro


John Rennie

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"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yep! It's beginning to look that way. Sad really.
>


H,R.Gruemm

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Mar 30, 2002, 1:55:37 PM3/30/02
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Mark Joyce <mf...@cornell.edu> wrote in message news:<MPG.1707c36e4...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>...

In most continental legal systems (AFAIK in France, too), the law
gives you the right to decline to testify against a close relative.

HRG.

Reed Richards

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Mar 30, 2002, 11:01:02 PM3/30/02
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"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<JzJo8.6246$Ko1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

Speaking of Bin Laden, I have it on good authority Desi knows where
he is: Desi is harboring him.

How do I know this? Look, everyone who knows Desi knows he had
created a loop of the planes hitting the WTC and the footage of same
falling for use as a sexual stimulant. It only stands to reason.

Reed Richards

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Mar 30, 2002, 11:23:39 PM3/30/02
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"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote in message news:<VFSm8.275243$TV4.36...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>...

>
> Lest Europeans think that affronts which represent
> hypocrisy on the part of nations on the Continent are
> going unnoticed in the U.S. The French CANNOT
> tell the U.S. how to conduct its Judicial System,
> anymore than the U.S. can tell France how to conduct
> ITS Judicial System.


Remember, this is the country that not only, indeed, tell the
US how to conduct its justice system, but has also given honorary
citizenship to a cop killer.

We saved their asses from the Nazis. This is how they repay us.
Kind of makes you wonder if we should not have reconsidered, knowing
what we know now.

Euroguy

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Mar 31, 2002, 3:25:02 AM3/31/02
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"Reed Richards" <houm...@yahoo.com>
??????:499421f5.02033...@posting.google.com...

Which country helped the US get independence?

Kind of makes me wonder if your memory isn't very selective or if you're
just suffering from Alzheimer's disease.

Euro


Suzanne Burrows

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Mar 31, 2002, 5:51:14 AM3/31/02
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"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote
> "John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote
> > "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote

> > > A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > > { snip }

> > Instead of being stupid, how about admitting that


> > your statement that "Mr bin Laden is apparently seen
> > confirming that none of the terrorists knew what was
> > about to happen until they got onto the aircraft" was
> > incorrect? Start here and then you might be able
> > to enter the real world and leave your insane
> > conspiracy theories behind you.
>
> That will NEVER happen. Like Earl, Craig, Peter,
> Ivan, YMT, euroguy, dirt and an endless host of others
> here, whose egos PREVENT them from EVER admitting
> they know not what they speak of,

Pot. Kettle. Black.


> dezi could NEVER
> admit that he had done so. Remember the meaningless
> 'the dead' and 'the memory of the dead'? The man is
> HOPELESS. And he is a liar. Not just ONE lie, which
> abolitionists seem to find themselves obsessing over as
> to the possibility of it being a lie in another case. But
> an entire compendium of arguments filled with a thousand
> deceits and a hundred perverted presentations. The sooner
> that other abolitionists call him out on EVERY ONE of his
> lies, as they obsessively do with ONE particular argument
> from the other side, the sooner they will be respected for
> character.
> PV

There are 190 posts on my newsreader today, PV. 78 of them are yours. ie.
40% of all posts on a.a.d-p is from you. If we used a word-count, who knows
how high it would be.... Now frankly, that seems a little obsessive to me!
Perhaps you need to to go on holiday from a.a.d-p for awhile?

Reed Richards

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"Euroguy" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3ca6b...@news1.meganetnews.com>...


Aaaaaaaaaaand that gives them the authority to do the
aforementioned? Have you missed taking your rational thought pill
today?

A Planet Visitor

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"Suzanne Burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> wrote in message
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> "A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote
> > "John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote
> > > "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote
> > > > A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > { snip }
>
> > > Instead of being stupid, how about admitting that
> > > your statement that "Mr bin Laden is apparently seen
> > > confirming that none of the terrorists knew what was
> > > about to happen until they got onto the aircraft" was
> > > incorrect? Start here and then you might be able
> > > to enter the real world and leave your insane
> > > conspiracy theories behind you.
> >
> > That will NEVER happen. Like Earl, Craig, Peter,
> > Ivan, YMT, euroguy, dirt and an endless host of others
> > here, whose egos PREVENT them from EVER admitting
> > they know not what they speak of,
>
> Pot. Kettle. Black.
>
Hardly, my little bimbo. I have on a number of occasions
noted that I had mispoken. It is no big deal for me, as it
is for those possessing those huge egos, such as I find
with you.

>
> > dezi could NEVER
> > admit that he had done so. Remember the meaningless
> > 'the dead' and 'the memory of the dead'? The man is
> > HOPELESS. And he is a liar. Not just ONE lie, which
> > abolitionists seem to find themselves obsessing over as
> > to the possibility of it being a lie in another case. But
> > an entire compendium of arguments filled with a thousand
> > deceits and a hundred perverted presentations. The sooner
> > that other abolitionists call him out on EVERY ONE of his
> > lies, as they obsessively do with ONE particular argument
> > from the other side, the sooner they will be respected for
> > character.
> > PV
>
> There are 190 posts on my newsreader today, PV. 78 of them are yours.

You must have your newsreader set to 'killfile' a great
number of other posters, and attribute their posts to
me. Looking at MY newsreader, for the day 03/30/02,
I find a total of 86 messages on that day, and 13 of them
from me. Looking at google for 02/30/02, I find a total
of 84 messages on that day, and 14 of them from me.
As usual, as you were with 'the DP is murder,' you are
as full of shit as a Christmas Goose.

ie.
> 40% of all posts on a.a.d-p is from you. If we used a word-count, who knows
> how high it would be.... Now frankly, that seems a little obsessive to me!
> Perhaps you need to to go on holiday from a.a.d-p for awhile?
>

Are we into censorship now, hot lips? If anyone is obsessing
it is that YOU'VE found it necessary to COUNT the number and
ratio of my posts, and still get it terribly screwed up. If you find
my posts offensive, you may ignore them, killfile me, or
continue to respond to them, making an ass of yourself in
the process. It's really immaterial to me. But telling me that
I may not post a certain number of posts a day, is reminiscent
of the days of Herr Goebbles.

PV

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: "A Planet Visitor" abc...@abcxyz.com
Date: 3/31/2002 2:48 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <ZmMp8.30062$y26.7...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>


"Suzanne Burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> wrote in message
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>


> There are 190 posts on my newsreader today, PV. 78 of them are yours.

=============================

Well, since you are on a NG Message watch, tell us what you think of DirtDogs
numerous inane messages.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Mar 31, 2002, 11:59:40 PM3/31/02
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In article <Jdhp8.19282$gj7.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

I'm sure that there are some News browsers that can kill authors
dependant on the "References:" header. Therefore you could kill every
reply Des made to PV and vice versa. My beloved MT-Newswatcher does not
but I understand that Agent is pretty flexible (unlike Outlook Express -
you really should consider another browser).

Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"My parents always told me I could be what I wanted to be. ((o))
So I became a complete bastard." ((O))

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" dia...@prometheus.humsoc.utas.edu.au
Date: 3/31/2002 8:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <diablo-C7B1F7....@newsroom.utas.edu.au>

Mr Q. Z.
=============================

Killfile Dezi???? Nonsense. The entertainment value alone is well worth the
time.


Suzanne Burrows

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Apr 1, 2002, 3:03:38 AM4/1/02
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"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote
> "Suzanne Burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> wrote

I don't read Usenet every day, so they add up over the course of the week.
The point is - you post volumes here to the point of obsession.


> As usual, as you were with 'the DP is murder,' you are
> as full of shit as a Christmas Goose.

You fill your Christmas Goose with shit?

I prefer chestnut and bacon seasoning, but each to his own.......


> ie.
> > 40% of all posts on a.a.d-p is from you. If we used a word-count, who
knows
> > how high it would be.... Now frankly, that seems a little obsessive to
me!
> > Perhaps you need to to go on holiday from a.a.d-p for awhile?
> >
> Are we into censorship now, hot lips? If anyone is obsessing
> it is that YOU'VE found it necessary to COUNT the number and
> ratio of my posts, and still get it terribly screwed up. If you find
> my posts offensive, you may ignore them, killfile me, or
> continue to respond to them, making an ass of yourself in
> the process. It's really immaterial to me. But telling me that
> I may not post a certain number of posts a day, is reminiscent
> of the days of Herr Goebbles.
> PV

hahaha, now I am equivalent to Herr Goebbles??? Do you actually bother
to read the nonsense you spout before you send it?


Euroguy

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Apr 1, 2002, 10:17:00 AM4/1/02
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"Reed Richards" <Houm...@yahoo.com>
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That doesn't give you the authority to have a selective (and eventually
revisionist) view of history. That's all.

Euro


A Planet Visitor

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"Suzanne Burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> wrote in message
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Ahhh... so you actually 'lied' when you said 'today.'

>
> > As usual, as you were with 'the DP is murder,' you are
> > as full of shit as a Christmas Goose.
>
> You fill your Christmas Goose with shit?
>
> I prefer chestnut and bacon seasoning, but each to his own.......

No one cares, dear.

> > ie.
> > > 40% of all posts on a.a.d-p is from you. If we used a word-count, who
> knows
> > > how high it would be.... Now frankly, that seems a little obsessive to
> me!
> > > Perhaps you need to to go on holiday from a.a.d-p for awhile?
> > >
> > Are we into censorship now, hot lips? If anyone is obsessing
> > it is that YOU'VE found it necessary to COUNT the number and
> > ratio of my posts, and still get it terribly screwed up. If you find
> > my posts offensive, you may ignore them, killfile me, or
> > continue to respond to them, making an ass of yourself in
> > the process. It's really immaterial to me. But telling me that
> > I may not post a certain number of posts a day, is reminiscent
> > of the days of Herr Goebbles.
> > PV
>
> hahaha, now I am equivalent to Herr Goebbles??? Do you
> actually bother
> to read the nonsense you spout before you send it?

Yes.. I do. Obviously you don't bother to 'think,' before
replying, however. You do advocate 'censorship,' in your
meaningless little comment... the connection is rather
obvious.

PV

flamestar

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Apr 1, 2002, 1:21:32 PM4/1/02
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Sure France helped the US get started There is a difference the France
that helped the US is long dead, replaced by a series of Republics.
Moreover while the French Navy alowed the US to win it was American
solders that drove the Germans out of France.

"Euroguy" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3ca86...@news1.meganetnews.com>...

flamestar

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Apr 1, 2002, 1:21:39 PM4/1/02
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Sure France helped the US get started There is a difference the France
that helped the US is long dead, replaced by a series of Republics.
Moreover while the French Navy alowed the US to win it was American
solders that drove the Germans out of France.

"Euroguy" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3ca86...@news1.meganetnews.com>...

dirtdog

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Apr 1, 2002, 2:01:40 PM4/1/02
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On 1 Apr 2002 10:21:32 -0800, jamesjos...@yahoo.com (flamestar)
wrote:

>Sure France helped the US get started There is a difference the France
>that helped the US is long dead, replaced by a series of Republics.
>Moreover while the French Navy alowed the US to win it was American
>solders that drove the Germans out of France.
>
>
>

There were no other nationalities involved were there?

Twat.

w00f

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 01 Apr 2002 17:25:19 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> I don't read Usenet every day, so they add up over the course of the week.
> >> The point is - you post volumes here to the point of obsession.
>
> > Ahhh... so you actually 'lied' when you said 'today.'
>
> Suzanne wrote :

>
> > There are 190 posts on my newsreader today, PV
>
> She didn't claim that they were all made on the one day.
>
> You're losing it, Jed. What am I saying: you never _had_ it.
>
> Oh, and learn how to place full stops in quotation marks, you moron.
>
Pedantic.... the only argument in your arsenal. Pathetic.
Not even dirt is THAT pathetic. Of course I know you envy
HIS obscenity. Don't you wish YOU could be that course?
Even being course, is better than being impotently pedantic.

PV


> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PEDANTIC #1

Reed Richards

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"Euroguy" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3ca86...@news1.meganetnews.com>...

You are talking about something that happened OVER 200 FUCKING
YEARS AGO!!!

If you think something they did that long ago gives them the
authority to meddle in American affairs or otherwise show contempt
for the USA, then you had better go to the Emerald City and see the
Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz about getting a brain.

And deal with the NOW while you are at it. The shit I mentioned
occurred during the LAST TWO YEARS!

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Tue, 02 Apr 2002 02:28:03 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>

> >> She didn't claim that they were all made on the one day.
> >>
> >> You're losing it, Jed. What am I saying: you never _had_ it.
> >>
> >> Oh, and learn how to place full stops in quotation marks, you moron.
>
> > Pedantic.... the only argument in your arsenal. Pathetic.
> > Not even dirt is THAT pathetic. Of course I know you envy
> > HIS obscenity. Don't you wish YOU could be that course?
> > Even being course, is better than being impotently pedantic.
>
> *guffaw* Your 'love affair' with words just goes from strength to
> strength, doesn't it, Jedro ?
>
The most devastating error is that which exists between
our ignorance and our reason. You demonstrate that
error every time you post, when you display the caricature
of a clownish fop. I'd much rather have a 'love affair' with
'reason' then the ignorance you represent.

> Try 'coarse', you half wit.

Although it would be correct to have spelled it as you say,
this demonstrates how silly your arguments ALWAYS are.
Try the OED --

COURSE --
22. b. Ways of action, proceedings; personal conduct
or behaviour, esp. of a reprehensible kind...
Example -- 1847 TENNYSON Pric. III. 197 Baser courses,
children of despair. 1865 M. ARNOLD Ess. Crit. Pref. 13
But is his old age he has mended his courses.

>
So... has my use of the word changed the meaning so much
that you are too STUPID to understand? Or are you intent on
just continuing to demonstrate, with a mindless meaningless
post, that you are a clownish fop? Now try defending your
claim using 'reason' that 'the dead cannot be honored.' This
time not using a pedantic argument of 'you need a gerund,
Jedro.' Or are you AFRAID to do so?

PV

> --
> Desmond Coughlan |DIPSHIT #1

dirtdog

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On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:40:58 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
<abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote:

>
>"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
>news:slrnaaj99b.1k0.p...@tortue.voute.net...
>> Le Tue, 02 Apr 2002 02:28:03 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
>écrit :
>>
>> { snip }
>>
>> >> She didn't claim that they were all made on the one day.
>> >>
>> >> You're losing it, Jed. What am I saying: you never _had_ it.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and learn how to place full stops in quotation marks, you moron.
>>
>> > Pedantic.... the only argument in your arsenal. Pathetic.
>> > Not even dirt is THAT pathetic. Of course I know you envy
>> > HIS obscenity. Don't you wish YOU could be that course?
>> > Even being course, is better than being impotently pedantic.
>>
>> *guffaw* Your 'love affair' with words just goes from strength to
>> strength, doesn't it, Jedro ?
>>
>The most devastating error is that which exists between
>our ignorance and our reason. You demonstrate that
>error every time you post, when you display the caricature
>of a clownish fop. I'd much rather have a 'love affair' with
>'reason' then the ignorance you represent.

Then why not try a bit of 'reason', PV, rather than your usual brand
of hysterical, nonsensical babble?

>
>> Try 'coarse', you half wit.
>
>Although it would be correct to have spelled it as you say,
>this demonstrates how silly your arguments ALWAYS are.
>Try the OED --
>
>COURSE --
>22. b. Ways of action, proceedings; personal conduct
>or behaviour, esp. of a reprehensible kind...
>Example -- 1847 TENNYSON Pric. III. 197 Baser courses,
>children of despair. 1865 M. ARNOLD Ess. Crit. Pref. 13
>But is his old age he has mended his courses.
>
>>

Oh dear, PV.

The correct word is 'coarse', just as 'insure' cannot be used
interchangeably with 'ensure'.

Unfortunately, the OED as a literary guide has been devalued by
commercial pressures given the desire of its publishers to continue to
make new editions which they must somehow justify the sale of.

Thus, the Concise OED has become something of an equal opportunities
manuscript, which now embraces retards such as yourself into the bosom
of the English language. In fact, I blame its acceptance of slang,
vilgar Americanisms and _mistakes_ like that you have made here for
the gradual degradation of the English language into several pissy
little provincial tongues which have become all but worthless as a
means of precise communication.

This, you will note, is why disciplines where _precise_ communication
is required eschew the use of a dictionary as defining authority. This
is also the reason why the only dictionary I possess is from 1958 and
describes the word 'Gay' as meaning 'joyful'.

<remainder of PV's rant in which he purports to excuse his sloppy use
of his own mother tongue snipped>

w00f

dirtdog

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:24:20 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote:

<snipped>

>Your exact words were, 'Don't you wish YOU could be that course?' Surely
>you're not now trying to tell us that this is the correct word for that
>sentence ...
>
>Are you ?
>

Yep. He is.

Or perhaps he's 'trolling' again....

w00f

A Planet Visitor

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"dirtdog" <dog.of.lo...@w00fitty.w00f.cxm> wrote in message
news:qvojauccgrjhkf2ju...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:40:58 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
> <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
> >news:slrnaaj99b.1k0.p...@tortue.voute.net...
> >> Le Tue, 02 Apr 2002 02:28:03 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
> >écrit :
> >>
> >> { snip }
> >>
> >> >> She didn't claim that they were all made on the one day.
> >> >>
> >> >> You're losing it, Jed. What am I saying: you never _had_ it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, and learn how to place full stops in quotation marks, you moron.
> >>
> >> > Pedantic.... the only argument in your arsenal. Pathetic.
> >> > Not even dirt is THAT pathetic. Of course I know you envy
> >> > HIS obscenity. Don't you wish YOU could be that course?
> >> > Even being course, is better than being impotently pedantic.
> >>
> >> *guffaw* Your 'love affair' with words just goes from strength to
> >> strength, doesn't it, Jedro ?
> >>
> >The most devastating error is that which exists between
> >our ignorance and our reason. You demonstrate that
> >error every time you post, when you display the caricature
> >of a clownish fop. I'd much rather have a 'love affair' with
> >'reason' then the ignorance you represent.
>
> Then why not try a bit of 'reason', PV, rather than your usual brand
> of hysterical, nonsensical babble?
>
Would that be 'reason' like -- the Balkans are not in
Europe... perhaps?

> >
> >> Try 'coarse', you half wit.
> >
> >Although it would be correct to have spelled it as you say,
> >this demonstrates how silly your arguments ALWAYS are.
> >Try the OED --
> >
> >COURSE --
> >22. b. Ways of action, proceedings; personal conduct
> >or behaviour, esp. of a reprehensible kind...
> >Example -- 1847 TENNYSON Pric. III. 197 Baser courses,
> >children of despair. 1865 M. ARNOLD Ess. Crit. Pref. 13
> >But is his old age he has mended his courses.
> >
> >>
>
> Oh dear, PV.
>
> The correct word is 'coarse', just as 'insure' cannot be used
> interchangeably with 'ensure'.
>
> Unfortunately, the OED as a literary guide has been devalued by
> commercial pressures given the desire of its publishers to continue to
> make new editions which they must somehow justify the sale of.
>
Sure it has, dezipoo... sure it has... you're coming out with
YOUR version any day now. Actually, though, I agree with
you. For too long I have pandered to the OED, attempting to
mollify the tender feelings of the English toward the language
they developed but do not hold a license to. I'll not do this
further, except when it meets my needs. Words that have
taken meaning through usage outside of the OED, have
taken a life of their own, and need no OED to quantify them.
We are no longer in the 19th Century, and I'll not abide by
any self-constructed rules that would say we must stay
there. Obviously, the OED is a revered source of definitions
as they have developed in the past. But that speaks
NOTHING to the great advances that are taking place in
communication almost daily, in the English Language.
There is even a school developed of 'Black English,'
called Ebonics which addresses this issue on a sociological
level. See, for example --
http://www.cs.uop.edu/education/jl/ebonics.html
and many other references.

> Thus, the Concise OED has become something of an equal opportunities
> manuscript, which now embraces retards such as yourself into the bosom
> of the English language. In fact, I blame its acceptance of slang,
> vilgar Americanisms and _mistakes_ like that you have made here for
> the gradual degradation of the English language into several pissy
> little provincial tongues which have become all but worthless as a
> means of precise communication.
>

Is that like that 'precise' location of the Balkans you tried
to perpetrate on this group? Or a hundred other 'precise'
pieces of lying crap? Being 'precise' in the construction of
a sentence, as YOU define that precision to be, has no
meaning if that precision attempts to deceive or distort
what is the truth. The communication of lies, while you
may call it 'precise' in its construction, is simply propaganda
in FACT.

> This, you will note, is why disciplines where _precise_ communication
> is required eschew the use of a dictionary as defining authority. This
> is also the reason why the only dictionary I possess is from 1958 and
> describes the word 'Gay' as meaning 'joyful'.
>

ROTFLMAO. That would rather LIMIT your English skills rather
than puts them in the place where they should be... as
respectful to a language which is rich, vibrant, alive and
adaptable to something other than 19th Century thinking.
I mean does your dictionary even have the word 'electricity,'
in it? But I'm sure you see your statement as 'irony.' Funny,
it's all in your head... the 'iron' I mean. BTW -- You've been
'outted' as a moron by me.

> <remainder of PV's rant in which he purports to excuse his sloppy use
> of his own mother tongue snipped>
>

My 'mother tongue,' is AMERICAN English, which is clearly
defined. We even have our own country now. Perhaps you
might not find that in YOUR dictionary, but trust me... we do.
We even have our own dictionary -- see
http://www.cup.org/esl/cdae/ and our own government -- see
http://www.firstgov.gov/
Unlike yourself, who has NO COUNTRY, I have one that I
hold deep affection for, in spite of its many mistakes. I'd
rather have that any day, then be in your position, where
your supposed 'friends' spit on the ground when you turn
your back.

PV

> w00f
>
>

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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In article <20020401005550...@mb-ci.aol.com>,
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

Not killfile Des. Killfile the entire PV-Des flamewar. Des is
entertaining when not involved in that slugathon which has gone on for
too long, become too acrimonious and used far, far too many bytes to be
entertaining any longer.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: Hey France, go fuck yourself
From: "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" dia...@prometheus.humsoc.utas.edu.au
Date: 4/2/2002 5:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <diablo-23A46F....@newsroom.utas.edu.au>

Mr Q. Z. D.


===============

Yea, I agree. However, the real problem is DirtDog and the people who take the
bait and respond to him.

Jigsaw

Rev. Don Kool

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Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:

> jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:


[...snip...]


> Not killfile Des. Killfile the entire PV-Des flamewar. Des is
> entertaining when not involved in that slugathon which has gone on for
> too long, become too acrimonious and used far, far too many bytes to be
> entertaining any longer.


No Davy, watching PV kick Desi's ass on a regular basis is still pretty
entertaining.

Happy to have cleared things up for you,
Don


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