Jack Osbourne Stumbles On Atkins Diet Quest
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Rock heir Jack Osbourne is so eager to lose weight, he's gone on the
controversial Atkins Diet - but it's not working for him.
The son of legendary rocker Ozzy and his manager wife Sharon is keen to slim
after successfully conquering his drink and drug demons.
But according to sources close to the reality TV favourite, poor Jack hasn't
quite understood the high fat diet only works if you renounce carbohydrates.
A source whispers, "He heard how you could have bacon and eggs and loads of
fried stuff on the diet so thought it would be ideal. Only thing is, he has his
bacon and eggs in a sandwich or with fried bread, and still insists on chips
with everything. He's doing well giving up the booze but finds it has only made
him pig out more on food." (WENN)
Slider2699
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> 18 September 2003
>
> Rock heir Jack Osbourne is so eager to lose weight, he's gone on the
> controversial Atkins Diet - but it's not working for him.
>
> The son of legendary rocker Ozzy and his manager wife Sharon is keen to
slim
> after successfully conquering his drink and drug demons.
>
> But according to sources close to the reality TV favourite, poor Jack
hasn't
> quite understood the high fat diet only works if you renounce
carbohydrates.
Geez, did he do ANY research at all? Never thought the Osbournes were the
smartest bunch, but that's funny. It seems to me that Jack could hire a
nutritionist and a trainer with no problem.
melizabeth
trainers for having to try and wake up the lazy slugs in bed...They showed
footage and I thought Jack looked pathetic.
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Especially when your dealing with kid who drinks and takes drugs until 2 in
the morning every night.
> >
> >
>
>
Billie
>father and he was born rich, privileged and had a popular reality show
>to launch him. Had he been born the son of a plumber, he would never
>have gotten laid because he is the quintessential nerd and a doughboy.
>Take away the money and fame and he couldn't have gotten a date to
>Burger King, much less a High School prom. If anyone saw him swimming
>in one of the Ozzy episodes, they were treated to seeing humungous
>rolls of flab jiggling around Jack's tummy area. With all that cash,
>how about a personal trainer, dietician and will power?
>
>It is to Jack's credit that he recognizes he needs to peel off some
>major weight. If he's this fat at 17, he might be a rival for Orson
>Welles in 15 years.
>
I don't think Jack is that bad...he needs to lose some weight, getting regular
exercise would help. He does seem to be a really sweet kid, unlike that devil
child Kelly.
Billie
"STUPIDITY IS NOT A HANDICAP. Park elsewhere!"
Cali
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> Jack Osbourne should be thanking his lucky stars that Ozzy was his
> father and he was born rich, privileged and had a popular reality show
> to launch him. Had he been born the son of a plumber, he would never
> have gotten laid because he is the quintessential nerd and a doughboy.
> Take away the money and fame and he couldn't have gotten a date to
> Burger King, much less a High School prom.
Did it ever occur to you that Jack knows that and that is the reason he's so
fucked up?
I give him credit for having the maturity to admit his problems now. I don't
know
many teenagers who would have the strength to do that, especially when it
goes against
the grain. In this case, a whole damn wheat field.
--
Keeper of Anthony Bourdain
aleen
Awww, poor kid, and I mean that.
aleen the karaoke queen
Wee Bit Strange
> nutritionist and a trainer with no problem.
Why? Those kids didn't have to finish high school, they don't have to
work for their spending money. What makes you think he's going to work
at losing weight?
I predict he'll continue to balloon up and then, around his 18th
birthday, he'll get the lap-band surgery like mummy has.
--Amy
I can tolerate Sharon, but the rest of those sloths really repulse me.
Selena
us,
looking for the easiest and fastest way to trim up. i work with a
girl who munched on pork rinds all day long because they had 0 carbs.
good grief! the schmuck didn't realize that pork rinds are ANIMAL FAT
fried in ANIMAL FAT!! she might as well eat crisco.
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RJRSJ1
>then again, he's only, what - 18 or 19 years old? he's like all of
>us,
>looking for the easiest and fastest way to trim up. i work with a
>girl who munched on pork rinds all day long because they had 0 carbs.
>good grief! the schmuck didn't realize that pork rinds are ANIMAL FAT
>fried in ANIMAL FAT!! she might as well eat crisco.
But they contained zero carbs - she will or has to have lost weight if she was
consistent.
Ericam2
But I think for the most part he's got his head on straight.
Most people that I know don't know jack about managing their weight. And we're
in our forties.
NY to FL Guy
him to focus on staying clean and then he will lose weight when he concentrates
on his health instead of drugs.
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before long they will both have their stomachs stapled like mummy.
Baby Strange
I agree. Jack strikes me as very bright (albeit spoiled), but I think
he will ultimately manage to do well for himself. Kelly, however, is
another matter altogether. [shakes head]
Baby Strange
> I like Jack Osborne - he's a sweet kid. So hes stupid - most teenagers are.
> But I think for the most part he's got his head on straight.
I agree with you. Out of that whole family, I think he will ultimately
manage to emerge as a fairly decent, adult human being. He and his
sister Aimee--the one who has so far avoided all the insanity "The
Osbournes" has wrought. If I fear for any of them, it's Kelly.
> Most people that I know don't know jack about managing their weight. And we're
> in our forties.
Sure, Jack's a pudgy boy, but I do think he has the brains to deal
with it when he decides it is vital to do so. That he looked around
and realized he wasn't getting anywhere by hanging out with a bunch of
druggies and did something to break that cycle speaks well of him.
It would help if his mother wasn't such a craven Fame Hag, but hey,
the boy may yet figure it all out. I can't say the same for his
sister, however...
RJRSJ1
>
I DID. It doesn't matter.
hi
and saw jack sitting on her couch.
is he like a regular on the show or something? or there for some reason?
he was there with a totally bald drag queen kinda guy.........thursdays show
maybe....
Jill
"rsny" <emeral...@rcn.com> wrote Weight loss is nothing more complicated
than taking in
> fewer calories than one burns. Someone stuffing her face from morning
> 'til night with fat *is* going to gain weight, even if she isn't
> eating any carbs. There are no great magical weight loss properties of
> fats and proteins, and carbs are not evil.
>
> If nothing else, the Atkins Cult is good for some laughs...
>
It's true that the best way to lose weight is just to burn more calories
than you take in. I am not a fan of these restrictive diets. You WILL lose
weight eating nothing but a ton of pork rinds all day, if you don't have any
carbs. If you have more than about 20g of carbs per day you won't go into
ketosis and therefore, you WILL pick up all those calories from the pork
rinds. BTW the very idea of pork rinds is just plain gross, blecch...but
when you are on Atkins that about the most convenient snack at your disposal
unless you want to eat equally horrid vienni sausages, yuck again.
I have personally witnessed people eat a HUGE amount of IMO utter crap on
the Atkins diet and they do lose weight and rather quickly...they gain it
back and then some just as fast, when they lose the weight and then go back
to eating sugar. I know someone who succesfully kept weight off by doing the
strict part of Atkins for about 5 weeks and then switching to Weight
Watchers and counting calories/points.
Atkins does work for weight loss, and I have heard of people watching their
cholesterol and triglyceride levels go down, but IMO it's a bad choice. For
most people it's not realistic-- but if it works for you, then hey go for
it...the later stages of the diet allow for plenty of veggies etc. I think
the best weight loss is simply to exercise and buld muscle tone to make your
body burn more calories at rest, and to eat healthfully and just take in
several hundred calories fewer than you burn per day.
jennifer
I had this Tivo'd for Seth Green, who is promoting his new film. The bald guy
was James St. James, one of the original Party Monters who wrote the book that
Seth's new movie is based upon.
I don't think that Jack is a regular, he was on with some of his friends that
night to discuss addiction, and he just stayed for the rest of the show.
On the one hand, Sharon is just as annoying on her show as she is IRL. On the
other hand, I liked this interview over most of the others Seth has been doing,
because they gave him half of the show, and Sharon didn't ask him the
formulatic "talk show" questions that other hosts have. It was also the only
time I've seen a second clip of the movie (other than the "troll" clip they all
show), and the first time I've seen St. James join in the discussion.
jennifer
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RJRSJ1
>It's true that the best way to lose weight is just to burn more calories
>than you take in. I am not a fan of these restrictive diets. You WILL lose
>weight eating nothing but a ton of pork rinds all day, if you don't have any
>carbs. If you have more than about 20g of carbs per day you won't go into
>ketosis and therefore, you WILL pick up all those calories from the pork
>rinds.
Thank you. That's what I was trying to explain. I work with several people who
have lost major amounts of weight with a ZERO carb diet. Pork Rinds were a
staple at my workplace!
RJRSJ1
>fewer calories than one burns. Someone stuffing her face from morning
>'til night with fat *is* going to gain weight, even if she isn't
>eating any carbs.
No, they won't. Can someone else explain this? If your intake is all fat and
ZERO carbs, you WILL lose weight!
There are no great magical weight loss properties of
>fats and proteins, and carbs are not evil.
>
>If nothing else, the Atkins Cult is good for some laughs...
Are you really that close-minded?
scaperchick
>>>But they contained zero carbs - she will or has to have lost weight if she
>>was
>>>consistent.
>>
>>Go back and read the part about eating them ALL DAY LONG.
>I DID. It doesn't matter.
Silly, silly, silly. Weight loss occurs when calories out = more than
calories in. Carb counts aren't the end-all be-all, any more than fat
grams are. Nobody is going to lose weight just eating pork rinds all
day, every day (unless they literally eat nothing else, and work out
several hours a day).
RJRSJ1
related to this subject. If the girl is eating pork rinds ALL DAY LONG and then
going home and eating zero carbs contained in other foods - she WILL LOSE
WEIGHT! What's up with people not understanding this??
Jill
"scaperchick" <bead...@yahoo.com> wrote
Nobody is going to lose weight just eating pork rinds all
> day, every day (unless they literally eat nothing else, and work out
> several hours a day).
Although eating nothing but pork rinds is gross, you really do lose weight
if you restrict your carbs. And you can't cheat or it will totally ruin it.
it's very restrictive. Eating just a few potato chips can literally ruin 3
weeks of strict sticking to the diet and set you back for a week .
I have seen a lot of people lose a lot of weight on Atkins while eating a
LOT of food and not exercising. I mean, I have seen people literally lose 40
pounds in one month eating a ton of eggs, cheese,steak, bacon, etc. You
absolutely can't eat much carbohydrate at all though- on the strict portion
of the diet all you can do is eat just a small cup or two of salad per day
and you have to be really careful with the dressing by checking the carb
grams...you HAVE to stay under 20 grams per day...
It really works but it makes me queasy just thinking about it. I am not a
doctor but I think plain old calorie counting and trying to eat healthfully
as well is much better...but, a lot of people do lose weight and keep it off
with Atkins. There is a lot of opportunity to eat healthfully on Atkins, not
everybody who does Atkins eats pork rinds and bacon every day, some people
eat fish and salads and good cuts of steak or grilled chicken...
It sounds to me like that is what is happening to Jack Osbourne...he is
trying Atkins and is eating a lot of meats etc, but is "cheating" on the
carbs...if you do that you will likely end up gaining, you HAVE to avoid
carbs strictly- if you do that then you CAN eat a lot. I feel sorry for
him....I am sure it's difficult at his age to have cameras in your face.
no
rjr...@aol.comzyxqyzx (RJRSJ1) wrote:
I think they dont believe that if :
1) you eat more calories than you burn
2) you eat zero carb,s
your body will be so starved for sugar that it will burn off your fat
and you will loose weight.
no
rjr...@aol.comzyxqyzx (RJRSJ1) wrote:
> No, they won't. Can someone else explain this? If your intake is all fat and
> ZERO carbs, you WILL lose weight!
I dont know about the fat part, but if your diet is all protein and no
carbs, the atkins diet holds that your body will be so starved for
sugars that it will burn off your stored fat. Even if you eat more
calores than you burn.
tealou
> Those 2 kids are a mess, they are both overweight. It is more
> important for him to focus on staying clean and then he will lose
> weight when he concentrates on his health instead of drugs.
>
Actually, I think youll find that Kelly isnt all that fat.
She has puppy fat on her face, but if you think thats fat, theres soemthing
wrong with you.
Calla
Really? Well, did you know that Sharon is so stupid that she calls
her lap-band surgery "gastric bypass?" She referred to her own
surgery twice with that erroneous label on the 9/16 show. Even her
website says it:
scaperchick
>Why then, your new nickname is Goofy.
A nickname! I'm honored.
> Please follow up on the other posts
>related to this subject. If the girl is eating pork rinds ALL DAY LONG and then
>going home and eating zero carbs contained in other foods - she WILL LOSE
>WEIGHT! What's up with people not understanding this??
What I'm seeing is that if you have a lot of stored fat, ketosis is a
handy way to lose that fat. It's not that I don't understand how it
works; it's that it doesn't work that way for everyone. It's not a
great idea healthwise to advocate eating pork rinds all day long,
either.
My gf's mother has always been an obsessive dieter/exerciser and was
always fat. She went on Atkins several years ago, lost a TON of
weight, and has kept it off by maintaining a strict diet. It worked
fantasic for her; even her allergies calmed down. Then there's my
mother, who tried it, and had no energy at all and actually gained a
couple of pounds. She went back to her usual diet and felt better and
lost what she'd gained. Atkins is not for everyone, IMO.
I'm also jellus because as a vegetarian I can't try Atkins. ;) Eating
tofu all day long is not my idea of a good life.
Smoot
wrote:
Some people write as if eating massive amount of pork rinds was
advocated by Adkins which it isn't. Atkins stressed filling up on
healthy foods, urging those who follow his plan to choose their carbs
wisely eating those which are the healthiest and most filling.
Of course the important thing in dieting is to find a healthy (no
amphetamine diets please!) plan one can stick to in order to lose
weight. I'm not saying this is the only great diet. But it does work.
There have been some completely untrue claims made in this discussion.
For example the one about only a little salad a day being allowed each
day.
In fact on the strictest portion of the diet, a period that lasts just
2 weeks, Adkins tells dieters to eat two cups of salad and one cup of
vegetables (from a list of the many vegetables that aren't high in
carbs) a day. Adkins also recommends half an avocado, 9 olives and a
list of other foods be eaten each day during this strictest time to
keep it from getting monotonous.
Those two weeks are the only period that only 20 carbs a day are
allowed. After that 10 more carbs a day are added every week,
monitoring how much the dieter continues to lose with the added carbs.
The important thing is to reach a level that allows one to continue to
lose while maintaining a eating plan that one can stick to. Atkins
recommends a quarter cup of blueberries and/or a quarter cup of nuts
amoung the foods one might add daily as one goes off the strictest
portion of the diet.
The ludicrous charge that a few potato chips eaten in weakness one day
would undo three weeks of dieting on Adkins is ridiculous. A few
potato chips probably wouldn't even undo that day's dieting, once one
adds the number of carbs to the daily total. There is nothing inherent
about any food (such as potatoes) that would undo the diet. Having a
taste once in a while wouldn't really hurt, unless it tempts one to
eat more than one's daily total of carbs and keeps one from eating the
foods that are important to the diet. Eventually brown rice, low carb
flour and corn meal are brought back to one's diet in small amounts
when one approaches the maintenance phase of the eating plan to allow
versions of favorite foods to be enjoyed on occasion.
My dad (who at 79 probably has a fairly low metabolism) found his
clothes getting tight and wanted to lose weight before it got to be a
real problem. He decided to try Atkins. (He's a retired doctor and
keeps up with medical literature and he researched the diet and any
health risks it might pose before starting the diet.) After three
weeks, he had lost 8 pounds. He told me that he frequently went off
the diet during that time having small portions of potatoes and other
foods he craved.
Another friend went on the diet around the same time and strayed only
a few times during the first 6 weeks. At the end of that period she
was wearing clothes two sizes smaller than the ones that had been
getting tight on her when she started. (She didn't weigh herself, she
was too afraid to get on the scale at the start of the diet.)
Both tell me that they know that they can never go back to eating
sugar except on rare special occasions and that bread will also be a
once or twice a month treat from now on.
Both have found ways to make the diet a pleasure instead of a pain.
Lots of sauces to keep the meat from seeming dull. I made dad a
sugar-free spicy Thai style peanut sauce that even us non-dieters love
on grilled beef and chicken. Spinach salad with bacon and blue cheese
with a vinegary dressing, fresh mussels with a sauce containing cream
and brandy, lobster with lemon butter (Atkins tells readers to limit
the amount of butter eaten but it's low carb and you can have some),
crab cakes, salmon croquettes, thick juicy steaks, salads with goat
cheese and pistachios, lots of the lower carb vegetables, boneless
country ribs cooked with garlic and other spices until falling apart
and then fried crisp and many other such dishes more than make up for
the loss of cakes, pies, bread and potatoes.
There are sugar-free sweet bars by Atkins and other companies that can
satisfy a sweet tooth. (Although they say they lose the sugar cravings
after a week or two.) My dad loves the little candy bars Atkins makes
that are chocolate-coated caramel. My friend prefers Diabetics choice
fudge lite bars. (And by the way, low carb diets are inspired by the
optimal diets for diabetics, who are discouraged from eating high carb
foods.)
And one can even have a small potato (say baked with sour cream and
butter) once in a while, counting the carbs (or even that handful of
potato chips that someone here thought would "undo" weeks of dieting).
As long as one keeps limiting the total amount of carbs, one will keep
losing until the healthy weight is reached. No evil food will undo
weeks of dieting.
Exercise is important of course. For those who find this food plan
easier to stick to than the plans allowed in other diets, it does work
and works great. It is a plan for life, however. You can't go back to
eating bread with your meals and having desserts with sugar many days
a week without gaining the weight back.
Rebecca
Nicolas The Great
> 18 September 2003
>
> Rock heir Jack Osbourne is so eager to lose weight, he's gone on the
> controversial Atkins Diet - but it's not working for him.
>
> The son of legendary rocker Ozzy and his manager wife Sharon is keen to slim
> after successfully conquering his drink and drug demons.
>
> But according to sources close to the reality TV favourite, poor Jack hasn't
> quite understood the high fat diet only works if you renounce carbohydrates.
>
> A source whispers, "He heard how you could have bacon and eggs and loads of
> fried stuff on the diet so thought it would be ideal. Only thing is, he has his
> bacon and eggs in a sandwich or with fried bread, and still insists on chips
> with everything. He's doing well giving up the booze but finds it has only made
> him pig out more on food." (WENN)
I think the poor kid should get a makeover first before
worrying about his weight. He looks like a freak. But I
one would look like a freak if they were the son of
freakiest dude on earth. RIGHT!?
-NT
no
tealou <yom...@twinkies.com> wrote:
She has a preety good sized tummy.
CT Guy 102
>> > important for him to focus on staying clean and then he will lose
>> > weight when he concentrates on his health instead of drugs.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, I think youll find that Kelly isnt all that fat.
>>
>> She has puppy fat on her face, but if you think thats fat, theres soemthing
>> wrong with you.
>
>She has a preety good sized tummy.
She is also very short and appears to take after the mother. Sharon was very
obese at one time. Those kids were given free reign and no discipline, so you
can see the result.
Sponky
(in message <3d4qmv8n0vs67bv24...@4ax.com>):
> I could be wrong, and I haven't been reading all the messages in this
> thread, but isn't what you're describing above similar to (if not the
> same) as when a diabetic goes into ketoacidosis. Diabetic
> ketoacidosis is caused by a profound lack of circulating insulin and
> the body starts using stored fat for energy, and ketone bodies (acids)
> build up in the blood. I can't see how this would be healthy for
> anyone.
Ketoacidosis burns your muscle, not body fat and is not desirable.
Ketoacidosis does not happen when doing Atkins correctly. Most people who
havent done their reading get ketoacidosis and ketosis confused.
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"Sponky" <di...@blah.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:53:32 +0800, edonline wrote
> (in message <3d4qmv8n0vs67bv24...@4ax.com>):
>
> > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:16:22 GMT, no <n...@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <20030919131250...@mb-m10.aol.com>,
> >> rjr...@aol.comzyxqyzx (RJRSJ1) wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, they won't. Can someone else explain this? If your intake is all
fat
> >>> and
> >>> ZERO carbs, you WILL lose weight!
> >>
> >> I dont know about the fat part, but if your diet is all protein and no
> >> carbs, the atkins diet holds that your body will be so starved for
> >> sugars that it will burn off your stored fat. Even if you eat more
> >> calores than you burn.
> >
> > I could be wrong, and I haven't been reading all the messages in this
> > thread, but isn't what you're describing above similar to (if not the
> > same) as when a diabetic goes into ketoacidosis. Diabetic
> > ketoacidosis is caused by a profound lack of circulating insulin and
> > the body starts using stored fat for energy, and ketone bodies (acids)
> > build up in the blood. I can't see how this would be healthy for
> > anyone.
>
> Ketoacidosis burns your muscle, not body fat and is not desirable.
>
> Ketoacidosis does not happen when doing Atkins correctly. Most people who
> havent done their reading get ketoacidosis and ketosis confused.
>
I don't want to get into a battle of linguistics, but as a diabetic, I know
that diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is when the body starts burning fat, not
muscle. Perhaps it is a different situation for non-diabetics or the
terminology is used differently.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/46/1667_50947.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}
"To continue functioning, your body switches to starvation mode and releases
fat to use for energy." (referencing DKA)
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/46/2731_1666.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}
"By restricting carbohydrates drastically to a mere fraction of that found
in the typical American diet, the body goes into a different metabolic state
called ketosis, whereby it burns its own fat for fuel." (referencing
ketosis)
scaperchick
She did lose a lot of weight though, didn't she? She looks much
healthier than she used to.