Are there any other radio shows out there that are worth a shit?
Buzz
G. Gordan Liddy ain't that bad.
The 'REAL' talk radio is on HAM.
Let's see....I think 8.35 MHz is freedom net.
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I personally enjoy listening to the informational and intellectually
challenging conversation when my dial is set to 5.000 MHz. The information
is always current and is continously updated throughout the entire day.
I also might add that there is NO MEDIA BIAS on this station so it is as
close to the truth as you will ever get!!!
c-ya,
z
I have become a new person after listening to 5.000 MHz. Also 15.000 MHz.
William Cooper does a very entertaining show on shortwave (buy one
with a long antenna at Radio Shack) on 5.065MHz at 12:00 Eastern
time. Sometimes boring, but lots of wild ideas you won't see in
the mainstream media until much later (if ever). Remember to take
EVERYTHING with a grain of salt and good judgement, especially from
fringe publishers. Still, if I'm awake that late, I usually tune in
to see what's happening.
>I have become a new person after listening to 5.000 MHz. Also 15.000
MHz.
Listening? Yes you've been listening haven't you G-boy. Turning in names
to your masters and preserving them for posterity in the next booklet of
government lies you are paid to spew. Tell me teacher boy why aren't all
militia members in prison as of this moment if we are in direct violation
of
any law whether it be State or Federal? Reason is there are no such laws
banning Militias or any other groups or organizations.
NO STATE, NO FEDERAL and NO CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.
What ever arugement you may conjure is only usual BULLS**T.
Don't take my word for it. Ask John Trochmann, head of the Militia of Montana,
who knows about the laws in that state banning paramilitary forces and so
claims that his militia is unarmed.
hti...@interoz.com wrote:
: I'm sick and tired of listening to Rush.
: Are there any other radio shows out there that are worth a shit?
Kevin Matthews (mornings on 97.9 FM out of Chicago and Grand Rapids) is
pretty good, but I somehow doubt that that's what you want. I also used
to listen to AM 670 (Chicago all-news format) but gave up when they went
to full-time live OJ.
: Buzz
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"Wise Use" isn't. | but don't insult my country.
http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz
"If you don't vote, don't bitch."
We'll change our name to protect the innocent.
Whats in a name anyway. Militia or PH.D, seems anyone can build a bomb.
LANCE
>Subject: Re: What's A Good Radio Show To Listen To?????
>From: psi...@aol.com (Psi co 1)
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 7:03:20 GMT
>
>
>In article <829145893$41...@atype.com>, mpit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>(Mark T Pitcavage) writes:
>
>>I have become a new person after listening to 5.000 MHz. Also 15.000
>MHz.
>
> Listening? Yes you've been listening haven't you G-boy. Turning in
names
>to your masters and preserving them for posterity in the next booklet of
>government lies you are paid to spew. Tell me teacher boy why aren't all
>militia members in prison as of this moment if we are in direct violation
>of
>any law whether it be State or Federal? Reason is there are no such laws
>banning Militias or any other groups or organizations.
>
> NO STATE, NO FEDERAL and NO CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.
>
> What ever arugement you may conjure is only usual BULLS**T.
Thank you Mr Pitcavage
When at last backed into a corner you seem unable to present any legal
arguement other than BULLS**T :>). Wouldn't you rather cite case law that
would prove your claim that the Militia Movement has no right to exist.
Present
your legal evidence for everyone to see, explain to everyone which statues
whether
state or federal deny myself or anyone else the right to bear arms and or
to gather
in one location for the legal use of said arms for training purposes. Show
everyone where it states that myself or others may not title theirself or
their organization by
any name they wish. The bottom line teacher boy is simple, you can't, or
you would
have done so already. You may address us as neo or wanna-be's, but you
can't stop
us because we have a true moral understanding of something you and yours
don't
seem to possess. That being a true understanding of why our ancestors
wrote the
Constitution. You once said I didn't have a clue. Well you where wrong.
The clue is
the most important part of the puzzle. The clue or the most important
peice of the
puzzle is FREEDOM.
LANCE
>hti...@interoz.com wrote:
>: I'm sick and tired of listening to Rush.
>
>: Are there any other radio shows out there that are worth a shit?
Try Don and Mike. They're syndicated out of DC.
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So let it be written. So let it be done.
Chairperson Tim
Lord Supreme Being and Ruling Monarch of AFA-B
>I'm sick and tired of listening to Rush.
>Are there any other radio shows out there that are worth a shit?
>Buzz
The G. Gordon Liddy show isn't too bad. Catch the hour when he
comments on the news. He also has some interesting guests from time to
time. Hrs. 10:00 -14:00 Eastern time.
Michael Reagan has an interesting show. Mostly politics and current
events. Sometimes has an interesting guest on.
Hrs. 2000 - 2200 Eastern time.
Both shows are syndicated and are on all over the country. They don't
have the coverage that Rush has, but if you seek, you might find them.
Tom
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Dave Cinege,
Stop calling yourself "Kill A Cop." You are either an agent
provocateur or, more likely, being childish. The Second Amendment gives
us the right to use force of arms to restore the Constitution as the
supreme law of the land only after the electoral process and the courts
have been complietely exhausted as ways of getting redress for our
complaints. This is not the same thing as overthrowing the government.
The only time someone has the right to shoot a law enforcement official is
in a legitimate case of defending one's own life or the life of another.
Such a situation almost never happens because almost all law enforcement
officers are decent people. Most of the time when someone is shot by a
cop is when the cop was threatened by a criminal with a firearm and the
copy was lawfully defending his/her own life. I have no sympathy for such
people when they are shot, because I am a patriot and a law abiding
citizen. President Clinton must be referring to people like you when he
refers to terrorists. You are a disgrace to the patriot movement.
Matthew D. Hoel
ho...@suntan.eng.usf.edu
http://www.eng.usf.edu/~hoel
In article <829579667$13...@atype.com>, Psi co 1 <psi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>arguement other than BULLS**T :>). Wouldn't you rather cite case law that
>would prove your claim that the Militia Movement has no right to exist.
>Present
>your legal evidence for everyone to see, explain to everyone which statues
>whether
>state or federal deny myself or anyone else the right to bear arms and or
>to gather
>in one location for the legal use of said arms for training purposes. Show
>everyone where it states that myself or others may not title theirself or
>their organization by
>any name they wish. The bottom line teacher boy is simple, you can't, or
>you would
>have done so already. You may address us as neo or wanna-be's, but you
>can't stop
>us because we have a true moral understanding of something you and yours
>don't
>seem to possess. That being a true understanding of why our ancestors
>wrote the
>Constitution. You once said I didn't have a clue. Well you where wrong.
>The clue is
>the most important part of the puzzle. The clue or the most important
>peice of the
>puzzle is FREEDOM.
>
Yo, Lance, I know you are relatively new to the newsgroup and weren't around
from February through June 1995 when I posted copious materials on the
illegitimacy of the militia movement. So hie thee hither to:
http://www.greyware.com/authors/pitman/faq1.htm
Where you will find 75+ pages worth of legal and historical argument against
the neo-militia, including cases and laws and examples and everything else.
When you've read and digested all that, come back and post your specific
objections to what it says, and we'll go from there.
Cheers.
"Matthew Hoel (EE)" <ho...@eng.usf.edu> wrote:
>The Second Amendment gives us the right...
"The Second Amendment gives us" *nothing*.
In re: my post on "constitutional premises" -
Here is my evidence, folx.
Go back and read it again.
Billy
http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/free/free.html
"Rant" updated 2/19/96
mpit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:
>Yo, Lance, I know you are relatively new to the newsgroup and weren't around
>from February through June 1995 when I posted copious materials on the
>illegitimacy of the militia movement.
Well, I was, and I say it's *bullshit*.
The reason, my dear professor aspirant, is that it draws no fundmental
(not to say, "radical") distinction between the *law* and what is
*right*.
Hence, your reliance on such thin-air ethical (do you undertand the
philosophical derivation of the word?) *nonsense* such as
"constitutions".
To the group at large, now hear this:
As long as you people engage the matter of resistence to tyranny on
*constitutional* grounds, you will always bear such millstones as
Pitcavage along your course, and you will strictly deserve them. The
reason is that a "constitution", by its very nature as an instrument
of "social contract", will always bind you to a given, *proscibed*,
set of ethics and resulting politics *whether you explicitly,
personally, agree, or not*. There will always be a lawyer, or his
spiritual allies, present to argue that you don't know what the
"constitution" means, but you are bound by it, nonetheless. As long
as you engage the argument on *his* premises, and agree that the
constitution *is* binding on the lives of individual human beings, the
only remaining dispute will haggle over *who* will bind *whom*, at
law.
Remember this: If it can be written down, it can also be *erased*.
*That* act of "erasure" will be the last resort of Pitcavage and his
kin, should you be successful enough to overwhelm his logic of "law".
They will simply change the law. Given your implicit endorsement of
"law", you will no longer have a problem.
"It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the *law*, so much as
for the *right*."
(Henry David Thoreau, "On Civil Disobedience", 1848, emphasis added.)
Mr. Pitcavage's essential complaint is that the spirit and action of
resistence is *unlawful*.
He is *correct*.
You would do well to *agree*, and discharge his *premise*.
>Yo, Lance, I know you are relatively new to the newsgroup and weren't
around
>from February through June 1995 when I posted copious materials on the
>illegitimacy of the militia movement. So hie thee hither to:
Yo Markie. Whats sup?
So hie thee hither to: Is this a biblical quote? I don't remember that
one from
sunday school. Must be one of those NWO statements I've heard so much
about.
>
>http://www.greyware.com/authors/pitman/faq1.htm
Gee Markie. Thanks for the invitation.
>
>Where you will find 75+ pages worth of legal and historical argument
against
>the neo-militia, including cases and laws and examples and everything
else.
>
Gee Golly Markie you must have me confused with a millionaire or some
one
who wishes to take Brain washing 101.
>When you've read and digested all that, come back and post your specific
>objections to what it says, and we'll go from there.
Gee Wizz Markie. I don't think I could stand that much rhectoric. As far
as my
specific objections are concerned, we'll proceed from here.
The Constitution Of The United States states very simply that:
We the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union,
establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common
defense,
promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for
the United States of America.
See Markie the Constitution wasn't based on English case law but the
moral
ideals and concepts of Freedom. It wasn't till later the ilk of you and
yours and
your desire for power through the rule of government were able to subvert
the
true meaning of that document. Now that We The People have chosen to stand
and defy those who would oppress us, do use this forum.
You aren't Militia and you aren't an activist, so you must come under
the title
miscellaneous.The definition of which includes ( many-sided ). Which side
will
you be on when the balloon goes up? Abe Lincoln said, you can stradle the
fence for so long but sooner or later you'll fall one way or the other. A
good friend
of mine stated it simply as, Those who sit on the fence get shot from both
sides.
Which side will you be on Markie ?
Constitutional America's or the New World Orders?
>Cheers.
LANCE
for the people network
chuck harder:
live whri 9495 kc mon-fri 1400-1700 est (last hour repeat of first)
repeat whri 5760 kc mon-fri 2200-0000 est
jerry hughes:
live whri 9495 kc mon-fri 2100-2300 est
american freedom network (old american patriotic network)
norm resnick 1600-1800 cst
steve quail 1800-1700 cst
12160,7435
amerinet broadcasting:
steve quail blue print for survial 1300 cst
bob spear preparness hour 1400
some character whos name slips the mind 1500-1700 cst
jeff baker with jim ce-dar-strum(sp) protecting your wealth 1700-1800
cst
jeff baker 1800-2000 cst
wgtg 9400 24 hrs
check out the web pages on these folks for up to date info, check the
fcc web pages for up to date info on station freqs.
most of these people and other are mainly on wwcr,whri,wgtg which
broadcast on 5065,5745,7435,9400,9475,12160 kc, I could and probably
are off on some of the freqs as I listen to them on the satelite dish.
Chuck harder is getting a little old, most of the info he puts out is
2-3 days old, I've already gotten it from quail,baker,resnick, etc. I
wish he would get off the jobs-jobs-jobs will correct the problems of
the country. He's right but it ain't going to happen because there is
no montary advantage to the companies in the usa to do that. but
that's another thread.
Have you check out were your common everday tootsie roll is made?
Its in mexico, if we can't make toostie rolls in the US, what do we
make?
jim
Ummmm, bfore this gets any louder, I would like to point out that
5 and 15 Mhz are both WWV time signals.
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I was. Mr. Pitcavage's argument relies on presenting ideals and
concepts to combat actual laws that decry his position...i.e., things
like posting the personal opinion of a Massachusetts governor as though
gubernatorial opinion had the force of law. Very little in the way of
confirmable law supports Mr. Pitcavage's stance, and at the same time he
ignores or discounts out of hand any legalities that disprove him.
---LCD
Mark T Pitcavage (mpit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: http://www.greyware.com/authors/pitman/faq1.htm
: Where you will find 75+ pages worth of legal and historical argument against
: the neo-militia, including cases and laws and examples and everything else.
: When you've read and digested all that, come back and post your specific
: objections to what it says, and we'll go from there.
You have yet to even address, much less satisfactorily answer, any of
the NUMEROUS objections, both general and specific, that I and others
have publicly made in this forum. The chief one, in my estimation, is
that like other statists you assume (with no evidence, much less
proof) that rights come from government, rather than the just powers
of the government coming from the consent of the governed. For anyone
who understands and accepts the legitimacy of liberty itself, your
"arguments" make no sense. They consist primarily of the opinions of
statists who are acting outside of their Constitutional and/or
statutory authority, and who therefore have no more right to dictate
the actions of others than you or I. Their opinions, like yours, are
irrelevant, and any attempt to enforce them is illegal.
Joe
Alas, you are completely mistaken. When I presented the opinion of
Massachusetts governor Nathaniel Banks, for instance, I also presented the
opinion of the Supreme Court of the state of Massachusetts, which agreed with
him.
If you have any specific "legalities" that you think somehow disprove the FAQ,
I would like to see them. But I doubt that you do.
> because I am a patriot and a law abiding citizen.
No such thing.
You feds better start highering smarter people, if you are interested in
scaring followers away from the people who are serious about putting you out
of business.
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Billy,
Calm down!!!! If you keep talking like this you a bound to push me right out
of my ranking. I have worked hard to be where I am. And I just won't quit.
Though I doubt I will ever reach the platue Chapmen is at, I hope that I
will soon be able to climb up and emerge as Psychopath #2 by pushing Ulrich
back a notch.
If you keep making this much sence, and talking this free, you'll unseat
us all ;>
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Dave 'Kill a Cop' Cinege (aka Psychopath #3) And working hard to be #1!
bababooyey (m...@my.computer.com) wrote:
: >
: > Why don't you all lighten up and quit being such freaks and listen to howard stern?
: He should be on in your city, unless y'all live in the woods.
Fine. You call KANU or KJHK or KLZR and tell them to carry his crap. He's
not on any stations in Lawrence, and he got his butt kicked off of his
Chicago host a few years back.
I used to think that he was pretty good, but I was 16 at the time.
BTW, do us all a big favor and get a real address before you come back.
--
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"Wise Use" isn't. |"If you don't vote, don't bitch."
http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz
I listen to him on WXRK 92.3 KROK right out of NYC.
Guess that means Joe Adams will have to accept me now, as one of his own
kind. :>
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Dave 'Kill a Cop' Cinege (aka Psychopath #3) --- Super Genius at Large
Dave Cinege <dci...@superlink.net> wrote:
>
>In <829873092$17...@atype.com>, bababooyey <m...@my.computer.com> writes:
>.
>>Why don't you all lighten up and quit being such freaks and listen to
>>howard stern? He should be on in your city, unless y'all live in the woods.
>
>I listen to him on WXRK 92.3 KROK right out of NYC.
>Guess that means Joe Adams will have to accept me now, as one of his own
>kind. :>
Sure, as long as you accept Howard's argument that the Freemen should
be shot.
Howard also likes cops. A lot.
--
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Stanford Law School, 2L | Students sleep the most: #1
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~jgadams/ | Students study the least: #2
Indeed you did. However, you completely ignore the fact, even in your
above quote, that STATE judiciaries have no authority to set NATIONAL
policy. The Supreme Court of Maricopa County might tomorrow pass a
verdict regarding the required width of toilet tissue: it would have no
bearing or effect on the legitimacy of differing widths of toilet tissue
on the national level.
If you have any specific "legalities" that you think somehow prove the
FAQ, I would like to see them. But I doubt that you do.
---LCD
The militia, however, was a -federal- institution, in the old sense of the
word. That is, power was shared between state and federal governments.
Moreover, when I posted that information, I did not say that the state court
was trying to set national policy.
>
>If you have any specific "legalities" that you think somehow prove the
>FAQ, I would like to see them. But I doubt that you do.
You were the one making vague accusations about it. I challenged you to walk
the walk. Your above comments indicates that you cannot.
Scott Alan Malcomson <hors...@indirect.com> wrote:
>Indeed you did. However, you completely ignore the fact, even in your
>above quote, that STATE judiciaries have no authority to set NATIONAL
>policy. The Supreme Court of Maricopa County might tomorrow pass a
>verdict regarding the required width of toilet tissue: it would have no
>bearing or effect on the legitimacy of differing widths of toilet tissue
>on the national level.
Notwithstanding the fact that there is no court called the Supreme Court
of Maricopa County.
In <830077391$26...@atype.com>, jga...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph G. Adams) writes:
>
>
>Dave Cinege <dci...@superlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>In <829873092$17...@atype.com>, bababooyey <m...@my.computer.com> writes:
>>.
>>>Why don't you all lighten up and quit being such freaks and listen to
>>>howard stern? He should be on in your city, unless y'all live in the woods.
>>
>>I listen to him on WXRK 92.3 KROK right out of NYC.
>>Guess that means Joe Adams will have to accept me now, as one of his own
>>kind. :>
>
>Sure, as long as you accept Howard's argument that the Freemen should
>be shot.
>
>Howard also likes cops. A lot.
So do I......WELL DONE :>