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Ace PH

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Oct 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/31/96
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I got this idea from another thread. These are names of real (IMHO, natch)
drum corps greats, whom younger fans should look up, learn about and
appreciate for their contributions to the activity.

I'm hoping some of you other JurassiCorps gang will chip in. No
explanations; you have to find out about the folks yourself. An asterisk
will indicate that the person has passed on. If other names are
posthumous, my apologies to all.

This selection concentrates on the Northeast in the 60s, where I received
my drum corps indoctrination. Let's hear from other RAMDers, with
knowledge of disparate parts of the land.

Hy Dreitzer*
Joe Genero
Tommie Martin
Bobby Thompson*
Les Parks*
Walt "Winkie" Winkleman
"Wild Bill" Hooton
Earl Sturtze*
Gerry Shellmer
Bucky Swan
Jim D'Amico
The Bernert Family
George Buonfiglio
Danny Raymond
Frank Arsenault*
Artie Hylwa
Bob Bunce

and "younger" ones
Mitch Markovitch
John Bodnar
Gary Pagnozzi
Timmy Rennie
John Oddo
Rick Nardelli

Just to name a few. Old-timers, test yourselves and see if you remember
...


Ace Holleran
Drum Corps World


Stephen Ford

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Good idea, Ace. I'd add:

Bill Hayes
John & Ted Sasso
Bob & Don Adair
Harry Ginther*
Orus Cavanaugh
Hugh Mahon
Frank Pamper
John Theorion
Dick Brown
Bill Kemmerer
Sye Lurie
Forrest Cresson*
Frank McCormick
Fr. Garner


Ralph W McFarland

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>John Oddo
>Rick Nardelli
>

>Just to name a few. Old-timers, test yourselves and see if you
remember
>...
>
>
>Ace Holleran
>Drum Corps World
>

Ace

Just want to add a few more to your list for the Northeast.

Bill Mitten
Don Adair
Bob Adair
Bill Kauffmen
John Flowers
Joe Morella
Robbie Robinson
Ray Eiler

And many more. Sorry if I screwed up the spelling of some names.

Diana Marie Cook

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In a previous article, ac...@aol.com (Ace PH) says:

>I got this idea from another thread. These are names of real (IMHO, natch)
>drum corps greats, whom younger fans should look up, learn about and
>appreciate for their contributions to the activity.

[names snipped]

I apologize for being ignorant here--I realize that these people probably
did a lot for drumcorps, but don't you think it would help us newer
people if you told us what each did? I _love_ learning about drumcorps
history, and I'd read the explanations if someome posted them.

--Di


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Diana Cook <dmc...@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
The Northern Aurora Drum and Bugle Corps; soprano II, 95 & 96
http://www.serve.com/dmcook/NA/
Diana's Un-egotistical Homepage! http://www.angelfire.com/oh/di/

Alan Armstrong

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I"m not as "Jurassic" as you guys, but here are a fewf horn guys from the
70's, that made a PERMANENT impact on the activity..

Ray Baumgardt
Jim Elvord
Jim Ott*

Later, AA

news-collections

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I'm sure these people all contributed much to the activity. I'm not
trying to be anal here, but it seems to me that there's a large absence
of female names. As a female baritone player and drum major, why should I
just have men to look up to?

Janelle Ewing


Jeff Lee

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Oct 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/31/96
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Ace PH wrote:Hy Dreitzer*

> Joe Genero
> Tommie Martin
> Bobby Thompson*
> Les Parks*
> Walt "Winkie" Winkleman
> "Wild Bill" Hooton
> Earl Sturtze*
> Gerry Shellmer
> Bucky Swan
> Jim D'Amico
> The Bernert Family
> George Buonfiglio
> Danny Raymond
> Frank Arsenault*
> Artie Hylwa
> Bob Bunce
>
> and "younger" ones
> Mitch Markovitch
> John Bodnar
> Gary Pagnozzi
> Timmy Rennie
> John Oddo
> Rick Nardelli
>
> Just to name a few. Old-timers, test yourselves and see if you remember

Ace! You left out your name. Shame on you , hahahaha

Jeff Lee - BD pit arranger/instructor

Bill DePaepe

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Diana Marie Cook wrote:
>

> ... but don't you think it would help us newer people if you told us what
each did?

My thoughts exactly!!! A short biography of each would bring us all a
little closer to these people. Maybe this could become chapter 7 of the
drumcorps FAQs which make their way to RAMD every once in a while.

Bill

Ace PH

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Oct 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/31/96
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As one poster said: an absence of female names.

I've got no excuse other than, back in dem dere days, there were very few
female players (outside of all-girl units). But, you did have drum
majorettes (yes, they used that archaic term). Plus color guards were just
that--they carried the colors, without the freedoms they possess today.
Other than a few great rifle twirlers (but no tossing to another member),
none come to my mind.

Cherokee Merino does come to mind-- she was a great snare drummer, who
played mainly with the Bridgeport (CT ND-ettes. "Translations" of my
nominees to come tomorrow. Keep watching this thread!

Ace Holleran

gil

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news-collections wrote:
>
> . I'm not trying to be anal here>>YES Y0U ARE!!!

> but it seems to me that there's a large absence of female names.
> Janelle EwingJANELLE-- COME ON, THESE ARE JUST SOME NAMES -- OK , BONNIE OTT, GREAT
BRASS INSTRUCTOR FROM THE PAST--OH, SORRY, CAN'T USE HER BECAUSE HER
F A T H E R WAS THE LATE GREAT JIM OTT!!!

bc

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Ace,
Were any of these people ever members of The OLSV Cadets?

I would add these to the list:

Bud Johnston
John Flowers
Frank Ferraro
"Lefty" Mayer*
"Pepe" Notaro*
Ralph Silverbrand
Eric Perriloux (sic)
Don Angelica
Jim Costello
Jimmy McConkney(sic) ?
George Bull
Phil Gentile
Harry Hazelwood

Not so old:

George Parks
Alan Smythe


Donnie/ADBucs
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DONALD SOLINGER JR DJ...@prodigy.com

Diana Marie Cook

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Nov 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/1/96
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Please,

1.) Turn off the Caps lock--you're shouting.

and

2.) Try not to be so bitter about a sincere question. it will make RAMD
a much happier place. We're all here for the same reason--love of music
and corps. Don't flame for no good reason, please?

We're all friends here, pretty much... :)

Donald Solinger jr

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Ace PH

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Quick summaries of my "nominees":
Hy Dreitzer: Great horn arranger for Skyliners. Really gave the corps that
"concrete canyon" sound.

Joe Genero -- brass arranger for Cabs and Hurc (sometime dm, too). Brought
"Carmen" to field years before SCV. One of the tops.

Tommie Martin: legendary soprano soloist for St. Joe's (jr.), Air Force
dc, and Skyliners. Still, IMHO, the sweetest sounding bugler (with range!)
I have ever heard.

Bopbby Thompson-- Taught those great Blessed Sacrament (Newark, NJ) drum
lines of the 60s.

Les Parks-- by and large, the most innovative rudimental drummer of his
time. Taught Cabs for years. His solos are still considery great practice
pieces.

Walt "Winkie" Winkleman: Colorful, crowd-pleasing dm of Skyliners.

"Wild Bill" Hooton: Director of Reilly's (Philly) Raiders, whose name says
it all.

Earl Sturtze: Probably the best "from scratch" rudimental drum teacher.
His books are still used. His drummers were superb, except for me! ;-)

Gerry Shellmer: Turned the drum world around with his funky, odd-time
pieces for BAC.

Bucky Swan: Another great Skyliner "screamer" sop.

Jim D'Amico: Ditto for Hawthorne.

The Bernert family: Founders of the Audubon (NJ) Bon-Bons, all-girl corps.

George Buonfiglio: The "godfather" of the 27th Lancers, from the git go.

Danny Raymond: Great drum judge and teacher. Wrote for St. Lucy's
(Newark).

Frank Arsenault: The king of rudimental drumming in the Midwest. Wrote
many books on the topic.

Artie Hylwa: Beautiful lead sop for CT Hurcs, and a real gent. Loves
current DCI; I see him at many shows.

Bob Bunce: Brass arranger for Selden (LI, NY) Golden Lancers, and, I
believe, for the re-tuned "Latin" NY Kingsmen of late 60s.

Mitch Markovitch: Played with Cavvies; wrote for Royal Airs. Or was it the
other way around? His lines broke ground with tuned bass, etc.

John Bodnar: Many call him the best rudimental drummer they have ever
seen. Played with CT Royal Lancers and Hurricanes. Never won an I&E, but
reguarly beat many who did! Yes, he is the model for "Bods" Boddicker of
Our Lady of the Single Valve Cadets. A Sturtze-taught player.

Gary Pagnozzi: Bodnar's freindly crosstown rival from Bridgeport PAL
Cadets. Won I&E at VFW in Chicago in 65, beating Bods. Also a Sturtze
pupil.

Timmy Rennie: Lead sop for Our Lady of Loretto (Brooklyn) Knights. Held a
note forever in off-the-line "The Man I Love". They would hit the field
with about 22 horns and 9 drums, and wail. Joe Genero taught the horns.

John Oddo: Drummer from St. Rita's (NYC) Brassmen. Eric Perrilloux
student. Probably attacked a drum with more ferocity than anyone. Later
taught Skyliners and Hurricanes.

Rick Nardelli: Anchored the great Bobby Thompson drum lines at Blessed
Sac.

Whew. I hope most of these are accurate. Thanks for many responses to this
thread.

Ace Holleran


Bill Speakman

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How about Amerigo (Riggie) Laus. He won the Legion National soprano
individual title many consecutive years in the 1960's--played for the
Pittsburgh Rockets. He played a Rudy Muck 17c mouthpiece, which was so
shallow that as Pepe Nataro would remind everyone "was like playng a
poker chip".

Have I missed Don Angelica's name in the list?

--Bill

Alan Armstrong

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>news-collections wrote:
>>
>> . I'm not trying to be anal here>>YES Y0U ARE!!!
>> but it seems to me that there's a large absence of female names.
>> Janelle EwingJANELLE-- COME ON, THESE ARE JUST SOME NAMES -- OK , BONNIE OTT, GREAT
>BRASS INSTRUCTOR FROM THE PAST--OH, SORRY, CAN'T USE HER BECAUSE HER
>F A T H E R WAS THE LATE GREAT JIM OTT!!!

Gil,

Before you act like such an ass in public, you might at least try getting your
facts straight.. Bonnie and Jim were brother and sister. Later, AA

Keith Higgins

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In article <55buqa$g...@infoserver.bgsu.edu>, dmc...@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Diana
Marie Cook) wrote:

> In a previous article, g...@csionline.com (gil) says:
>

> >news-collections wrote:
> >>
> >> . I'm not trying to be anal here>>YES Y0U ARE!!!
> >> but it seems to me that there's a large absence of female names.
> >> Janelle EwingJANELLE-- COME ON, THESE ARE JUST SOME NAMES -- OK ,
BONNIE OTT, GREAT
> >BRASS INSTRUCTOR FROM THE PAST--OH, SORRY, CAN'T USE HER BECAUSE HER
> >F A T H E R WAS THE LATE GREAT JIM OTT!!!


Just to clear something up: Bonnie Ott was the SISTER of Jim Ott, and
before she taught anyone she was a member of the Concord Blue Devils and
the mellophone soloist on BD '76 closer "Chase the Clouds Away", an
admittedly dated reference, but a classic none the less. Check out the
recording.

Keith

William Fancy

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Ace PH (ac...@aol.com) wrote:
: Quick summaries of my "nominees":

: Ace Holleran

Some of my nominations:

Al Saia
Jack Whalen
Jim Wedge
John Simpsom
Bucky Swan

PEPE NOTARO


Many Many more

Bill Fancy
St. Mary's Cardinals Alumni
27th Lancers Alumni Corps
2-7 Alumni Corps
Whatever the hell our new name is
Marksmen Sr. Alumni Corps

Levi Boldt

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Ace PH wrote:
>
> I got this idea from another thread. These are names of real (IMHO, natch)
> drum corps greats, whom younger fans should look up, learn about and
> appreciate for their contributions to the activity.

Ummm... if I'm supposed to respect them, but they're just a name on the
list, that doesn't really tell me anything they did for the activity or
*why* I should care what they did. The whole point of this thread is to
educate the younger fans and members. Please do so.

--

Levi Boldt
'94 Coachmen, '95-'96 Colts
http://www.msu.edu/user/boldtlev

Stephen Ford

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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Ace, a couple of fine-tunings:

Bill Hooten was Drum Major of Reilly. The 1st living legend at that
position.

Jerry Shelmar also took his abstract writing style to the Sunrisers.

As for women, probably the most notable of the Bernert family was Mrs.
"B".
Also give much credit to Sandra Opie and Lynn Lindstrom. But the name you
should regard the most is Judie Foster, 1st woman instrumentalist in
American Sr. corps ('71 Sunrisers).

Wayne Ford


Stephen Ford

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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Levi,

I think the writer's intention was that YOU should invest a little time
learning about the past of the activity you are benefiting from. It is
not up to us to present a case as to why those who went before us, and
you, have made significant contributions. This is just an opportunity for
you to learn about the past through finding out about some significant
contributors. (Sort of like understanding what FDR and JFK were about
before you vote)

Wayne Ford


ted...@pepper.ncinter.net

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Hey,
Back on line as of this past week , tryed to mail
you last nite but was using Reilly 50th address. nice job on Judy shes
as soild corps as anyone I know. Deserves the credit both for being the
first woman player U S Sr corps and for hanging in there yet today.
Thought I saw her in a Hurcs uniform at Rochester.

TED


Levi Boldt

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Stephen Ford wrote:
> I think the writer's intention was that YOU should invest a little time
> learning about the past of the activity you are benefiting from.

How can I learn if no one teaches me? I can't exactly go to the library
and read a book about the old greats of Drum Corps! I'm trying to
invest some time in this, hence my reason for posting what I did. If I
didn't care, I wouldn't have posted.

> It is not up to us to present a case as to why those who went before us, and
> you, have made significant contributions.

I know they've made significant contributions, but I at least want to
know what those contributions were.

> This is just an opportunity for you to learn about the past through finding
> out about some significant contributors.

That's my whole point. I want to learn about these people, not just see
a name on a list. When I first started drum corps three years ago, I
knew the name Zangali was to be respected, but I had no idea how he
revolutionized drill design until someopne told me and showed me some
videos. I keep on seeing these lists of names, but I have no clue what
these people did.

Bonita Joan Shucha

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In my humble opinion, the young drum corps person would be better off
knowing some names like:
Mozart*
Bach*
Beethoven*
Sousa*
Ellington*
Bernstein*
etc.
before worrying about the lists I read.
I knew a grand total of three of those cats' names.
I think I can still do a pretty decent job teaching drum corps.
Who do look to if you're in the guard, or administration? I dunno.
If I ever have time (read: when I win the lottery, maybe), I'll learn
about all those people. Will I revere them? Probably not.
Disrespectful snot? Maybe I am.
I'll be OK.

BillZman

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Nov 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/3/96
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How about:

Joe Buncie
Vince Bruni
Charlie Fox
Pete Spadero
Mike Kumer
Bob Thomas
Diane Thomas
Tony Christifano
Ron Brandt
Don Brandt
Jim Snyder
Bill Morgan

gil

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Alan Armstrong wrote:

>BRASS INSTRUCTOR FROM THE PAST--OH, SORRY, CAN'T USE HER BECAUSE HER
>F A T H E R WAS THE LATE GREAT JIM OTT!!!
>

> Gil,
>
> Before you act like such an ass in public, you might at least try getting your
> facts straight.. Bonnie and Jim were brother and sister. Later, AA

Alan,

Sorry - but I did know this - brother & sister - this was a mistype-
seems stupid, but true - i apologize for appearing so stupid!

LEG at cba

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Ooops! Almost forgot...

Jim Jones - Longtime force behind the Casper Troopers


Larry Girard, Jr.

TubusMax

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In article <327BCA...@pilot.msu.edu>, Levi Boldt
<bold...@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

>How can I learn if no one teaches me? I can't exactly go to the library
>and read a book about the old greats of Drum Corps! I'm trying to
>invest some time in this, hence my reason for posting what I did. If I
>didn't care, I wouldn't have posted.

You learn from those who have been there before you. For instance, your
horn instructor, Chuck Naffier, knows quite a bit -- how about starting
there.
In drum corps you have to learn from generations that have preceded you.
There are alot of old farts here on RAMD -- lots of old cats that would
just love to tell you old stories about back when they marched.

Here are some folks that I have able to learn from by asking them about
their prior experiences in drum corps. To me, talking to people in an
intimate one on one conversation is one of the best ways to learn. Much
better than a dumb ol' book. Here are a few folks that were in drum corps
before me and I have been lucky enough to corner at one time or another
and bug them to hear thier stories:

Pete Emmons, Jay Murphy, Dave Carico, Jim McFarland, Dan Farrell, Albert
Lo, Robert Nunez, Gary Brattin, Scott Bleau, Jay Long, Chris Checka, Julie
Slick, Bob Smith, John Brazale, John Sanchez, Mike Cesario, Wayne Downey,
Larry Clark...and many more...

Each of them have gems of wisdom that you can pick up on and learn from.
You dont have to agree with them, just listen and learn. To me, that is
one of the greatest ways to learn.

joe exley


Levi Boldt

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TubusMax wrote:

> You learn from those who have been there before you. For instance, your
> horn instructor, Chuck Naffier, knows quite a bit -- how about starting
> there.

Seriously, like I haven't spent many an hour with Chuck et al. talking
about what the activity used to be like! :)

> In drum corps you have to learn from generations that have preceded you.
> There are alot of old farts here on RAMD -- lots of old cats that would
> just love to tell you old stories about back when they marched.
>
> Here are some folks that I have able to learn from by asking them about
> their prior experiences in drum corps. To me, talking to people in an
> intimate one on one conversation is one of the best ways to learn. Much
> better than a dumb ol' book. Here are a few folks that were in drum corps
> before me and I have been lucky enough to corner at one time or another
> and bug them to hear thier stories:
>
> Pete Emmons, Jay Murphy, Dave Carico, Jim McFarland, Dan Farrell, Albert
> Lo, Robert Nunez, Gary Brattin, Scott Bleau, Jay Long, Chris Checka, Julie
> Slick, Bob Smith, John Brazale, John Sanchez, Mike Cesario, Wayne Downey,
> Larry Clark...and many more...
>
> Each of them have gems of wisdom that you can pick up on and learn from.
> You dont have to agree with them, just listen and learn. To me, that is
> one of the greatest ways to learn.

Is there any way for me to get ahold of any of these guys? Any of them
online? Any other old timers want to share a story with a relative
neophyte? Email me, please.

scrum...@aol.com

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While we're at it, how about a hand for Ace himself. Here's a guy truly
dedicated to both the history and the present of drum corps, which he ably
demonstrates in each of his thoughtful, constructive posts. He spends a
great deal of time recalling DC's great past, while never failing to
support and foster appreciation for its current direction. This thread is
no exception; he has created an environment for warm nostalgia and
education, all with his enviable, characteristic grace. Hope you stick
around, Ace - we need you more than ever.

Chris Basso
Garfield '85

Stephen Ford

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Nov 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/5/96
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Well Bonita, I guess we can agree on your self-assessment. Since this
thread began, I've seen several names from the administrative side of the
activity:

Jim Jones - Troopers
Sie Laurie - Royal Airs
Frank Pamper - Des Plaines Vanguard
Hugh Mahon - Garfield (70's)
Bill Kemmerer - Holy Name/Garfield (50's-60's)
Lefty Mayer - Skyliners
Ted Sasso - Sunrisers
Father Garner - Blessed Sacrament
Forrest Cresson - Belleville Black Knights

Do you really want to know why these folks made the activity great, or do
you just want to know what drum corps has done for you lately? BTW, I
heard that Bach* was a poor administrator and that Sousa* could care less
about guard work.

Wayne Ford


William Fancy

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AJLisko (ajl...@aol.com) wrote:
: Ace (Timmy, as I new him), challenged me to come up with my additions
: to his original "revered names" list. So, I'll give it my best shot.

: Remember, I'm going to hold true to the "revered" status.


: Al Mura - infamous for his brass instuction capabilities for Hawthorne
: and Garfield. Both corps won the AL Nationals in 1951.

: Wes Myers - drum instructor for the NY Skyliners from 1971-1984. Also
: taught many of NY's inner city corps. A master at his
: craft.

: Gus Wilke - solo soprano for the NY Skyliners in the 60's. Teacher of so
: many
: young people while working with many of NJ's finest Jr.
: corps
: including the Bridgemen.

: Earl Sturtze* - my beloved Earl. Yes, I was one of the players in his
: stable.
: He was an incredible mentor. Stern as he was, I
: believe him
: to be a very compassionate man. The number of
: individuals
: that won championships under his guidance is
: unmatched.

: Eric Perriloux - perfectionist extroirdinaire. The symbol of drumming as
: he
: molded the Championship lines of Reilly in the 50's
: and NY
: Skyliners in the 60's. I was fortunat to play in
: his lines in
: the late 60's.

: Ralph Silverbrand - the true "Gentleman" of drum corps. DM of Hawthorne
: through so many of their Championship years.

: Ed Rooney - Director of many Jr. corps in the Greater Boston area
: including
: Hyde Park (Boston) Crusaders and the immortal St.
: Kevin's
: Emerald Knights. His column in Drum Corps News, was
: the
: highlight of each issue.

: Pepe Notaro* - my car pool buddy from 1969-1973 when we both played with
: the Skyliners. Another person who took the time to
: guide
: many young inner-city people through the trials of
: life as he
: taught them the finer point of drum corps. Believe
: me, with
: some of the Pepeisms I've heard, Yogi Berra has
: nothing on him.

: Truman Crawford - brass arranger, instructor for the Yankee Rebels and the
: USMC Drum & Bugle Corps. His ability to bring
: out the
: passion in a corps, while being technically
: accurate,
: was uncanny.

: These are just some of the key people whose names I feel should be
: recognized
: by any drum corps generation.

: Andy Lisko
: St. Raphael's/Bpt. PAL 58-68
: NY Skyliners 69-81


Wasn't Tru Crawford involved with the great Chicago Royalaires' hornlines
of the mid 60's?

William Fancy

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Bonita Joan Shucha (shuc...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
: In my humble opinion, the young drum corps person would be better off


You are apparently not interested in teaching DRUM CORPS.

These names on these list are as important to us Jurassic Drum Corps
fogeys as are the name of those composers.

Hy Dreitzer's arrangements, to me and others who love the sound
of drum corps, are as beautiful as Bernstein's lovliest work.

And by the way I respect, admire and LOVE everything Bernstein ever did.


Bill Fancy
St. Mary's Cardinals Alumni
27th Lancers Alumni Corps
2-7 Alumni Corps

The REVERE ALUMNI D&B CORPS ( You know who we really are!)
Marksmen Sr. Alumni Corps

sma...@aol.com

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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Let's not forget Dominic DelRa (sp?) father of the melophone. He arranged
some incredible charts for the Empirestate Grenadiers, Interstatesmen,
Marksmen, Pittsfield Cavaliers during the 60's.

jra...@aol.com

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Let's add:
Tom Float - the greatest drum writer/teacher alive - marched with Anaheim
Kingsmen (not sure how many years, but was in the line when they won DCI
in 72), taught great, great lines for Freelancers (75, I think); Oakland
Crusaders 76,77; Spirit of Atlanta 78,79,80,81; Blue Devils
82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90(I'm not sure of the last year with BD, but I
know this is close); then Velvet Knights (I'm not sure how many years, but
I know he wasn't teaching in 95.) Come back Tom, the activity needs you!
Jeff Abney
Spirit tenors 1980


LA7Mary3

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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what a great thread....always willing to eat up all i can about the
activity. but i see alot of these are brass types what aboot some
'obscure' drum types. i seem to remember a little drummer boy who started
in the 70's with a small corps in Pittsburgh then went on to become the
famous Jazzer, remeber the guy in BD's pit with white glasses? dude could
play! last i heard he wrote for X-men in 94. no greater pit arranger than
this guy....Bob Bollman...all you young pitsters should know this guy.
wish he was writing for someone now..anyone know?

jam...@aol.com

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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Hey Ace,
Thanks for including my fathers name on your list along with Les Parks
name. The foundation of my own drumming(which I consider to be very strong
and the most important aspect of playing) came from these two men.
When I started to see and hear corps like Blessed Sacrament, Blue Rock,
St.Andrews Bridgemen, Muchachos,Skyliners, Santa Clara, Devils,
Crossmen,ect,
my playing evolved to what it is now, and will hopefully keep evolving. I
could learn what was going on at the time and apply it, because of this
basic playing foundation.
There are so many people that should be listed including names of todays
drum corps. I'm thankful of them ALL!!!!
And, very thankful to my Dad, Danny Raymond Sr.


Danny Raymond Jr.
New York Skyliners 87,88
DCA Individual Snare Champion 89,90
Syracuse Brigadiers Percussion Consultant 96,97
Disney EPCOT CENTER'S "Da Jammitors" 95-Present


P.S. Ace, if you don't want those scratchy Fleetwoods you mentioned in an
earlier thread, I'll be more than happy to take them off your hands. And,
I would like to add Marty Hurleys' name to that list for Percussion.

Stephen Ford

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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Andy,

A moving tribute to some great people. One minor correction, the late
Harry Ginther was responsible for the Reilly lines of the 50's. Actually,
Harry was a member of the Street Post Jr. corps that preceded Reilly, and
was an original Raider in '46. He stayed with the corps until the end of
the competing unit in 66-67.

Wayne Ford
Reilly Raiders 96-?


JAMITOR

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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Forgot to mention other drummers/instructors who were a major influence:
Bobby Thompson
Bill Kauffman
Dick Filkins
Chris Thompson
Dale Adair
Robbie Robinson

lega...@aol.com

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Nov 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/8/96
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Any folks from the greater NYC area who want to see some of the old
timers, consider going to the Skyliners Alumni show next weekend...

Nov. 16th at Bergenfield NJ High School.

There's another thread on here with all the details....

Larry Girard, Jr.

pkr...@aol.com

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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Of course Jim Jones--thank you very much!!

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