News of the Okies - 9/13/02
Uncle Jerry
Okie(tm).
First off, the report of yet another Okie Mom(tm) and her special
methods for raising children. Obviously she's 'experienced' what with
being pregnant with her *sixth* child.
http://www.ardmoreite.com/stories/091202/loc_neglect.shtml
Mean while up in Bartlesville, locked in a heated competition with
Delaware County to be recognized as the Child Rape Capitol of
Oklahoma, yet another child rape trial was nearing conclusion. This
time involving a case in which a 7 year old girl allegedly got tired
of being raped 'for years'.
http://www.examiner-enterprise.com/display/inn_news/news649.txt
Down in Henryetta, a fund has been established for the benefit of
Oklahoma's Youngest Rape Victim(tm), a baby that was eight months old
at the time she was brutally raped.
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=916760&pic=none&TP=getarticle
Then there's the matter of the Molesting Karate Instructor #2(tm).
Yep, for the second time this summer a karate instructor has been
arrested for instructing children in a lot more than self-defense and
this time at the YMCA, rather than a private karate school.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/wireless/WirelessDisplay.asp?ID=020913_Ne_A13Forme
And just to add some spice to Life in Delaware County, a guy wearing a
blouse and bra robbed a bank. No clue as to whether the 'In Drag Bank
Robber'(tm) was doing 'the Madonna Number' and wearing the bra on the
outside.
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=916592&pic=none&TP=getarticle
While over the Oklahoma City, the Okie Supremes(tm) told the Okie
Health Department "No Deal" on the department's bid to over-turn a
Creek County District Judge's injunction against the Okie Smoking
Ban(tm). Maybe the 'ghosts' over at the health department should grab
a glass of wine, a fine cigar and chill out for a while.
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=916621&pic=none&TP=getarticle
Teri
Nurse at Okla hospital reused needles on patients....
http://www.msnbc.com/local/KJRH/M225441.asp?0na=x2223580f
I'd rather have the measles thank you!
-T
"Uncle Jerry" <bubba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Jerry
wrote:
>Hey! Let's not forget our money saving Oklahoma nurses!
>
>Nurse at Okla hospital reused needles on patients....
>http://www.msnbc.com/local/KJRH/M225441.asp?0na=x2223580f
>
>I'd rather have the measles thank you!
>
>-T
I covered that one a couple of days earlier in a post titled "News of
the Okies - 9/11/02".
Re-using needles, that does sound like an idea the Okie Thinkers(tm)
would endorse wholeheartedly as a money saving move. Maybe if Steve
Largent becomes governor he will suggest the idea to the 'Ghosts'
over at the Okie Health Department.
Oh by the way Teri, I think I received an e-mail from you a few, well
actually several days ago and haven't got around to replying yet as it
and many other e-mails are 'hanging fire', as I'm switching out
networks/servers. I should be able to catch up on my e-mail duties
over the weekend end. At least I hope so...
Teri
No hurry -
-Teri
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ivan @v@
Uncle Jerry wrote:
If U need help with ya servers just call 596-NERDS and they will send a
NERD right over 2 help U Ha~ Ha~ Ha~ Ha ~
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
<ivanfig...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
Is that your company? I somehow think that a person knowing enough
to maintain networks and servers doesn't need you help.
Which brings up a question I have been pondering for some time.
Just what is it about us that compels you to offer up non sequitur
insults whenever you can? I used to think it was one of two thigs -
jealousy or hate. Now, I think it's a combination of both. You hate
us, but yet you are also jealous of us. Anyone who tries to insult
people on a material level is often himself lacking in such matters.
And they have always achieved a medium level, and attempt to make
themselves think that they are better by running down others.
Take me, for instance. You put me down because I don't own a home.
Ever think that fact is not because I cannot afford to? I pay enough
in rent and extraneous bills to afford a home - I choose not to
because of two reasons. 1) I don't wish to deal with the upkeep and
2) I'm not sure that I want to stay where I am and do not wish to be
saddled with trying to sell a house in Oklahoma's depressed economy.
When I decide to settle down, I'll buy a home - but for now, being an
apartment dweller suits me just fine.
You put down the car I own, even though I have explained that I
bought it to restore because I love that particular model of car.
It's not that I cannot afford a new car - but why should I put myself
in debt to buy a 2002 car when what I really want is a vintage car
that I can restore to my tastes? In the end, I'll likely spend as
much restoring my Acura as I would buying a new car. I don't care
about that, it gives me satisfaction to work on the car, which doesn't
need all that much work, anyway - than be bored with a new car.
You seem to see such things as negatives. Has all your accumulated
wealth - of which I don't really think there is a whole lot, as those
who have it don't brag about it - brought you happiness? I would
guess a big, fat "NO" on that question, as you are obviously a very
unhappy and bitter person. I have my "down" days, but all in all, I'm
more than happ with my life. I have a nice place t live, a good job,
a car I love, and most important - a woman that I love intensely.
Honestly, everything but the last is superfluous.
KRC
ivan @v@
Well one just never knows unless they ask.
Ivan
===
>
>
> Which brings up a question I have been pondering for some time.
> Just what is it about us that compels you to offer up non sequitur
> insults whenever you can?
I don't think by me offering help should be found insulting.
Ivan
===
> I used to think it was one of two thigs -
> jealousy or hate. Now, I think it's a combination of both. You hate
> us, but yet you are also jealous of us.
Well let me set you'r small mind to rest..I don't hate anyone..And I have yet
to find anything that would make me jealous of anyone in this or any other
usnet group..How can someone be jjjealous of written words?
Ivan
===
> Anyone who tries to insult
> people on a material level is often himself lacking in such matters.
> And they have always achieved a medium level, and attempt to make
> themselves think that they are better by running down others.
Well L@@k here at whos giving advice about someone running people down..mr.
(krc) the little BIG runner downer #2 next 2 the BIGGEST #1 runner downer
(fat nasty uncle jerry the candyman(tm) the lord master and web bastard..
Ivan
===
>
> Take me, for instance. You put me down because I don't own a home.
> Ever think that fact is not because I cannot afford to? I pay enough
> in rent and extraneous bills to afford a home - I choose not to
> because of two reasons. 1) I don't wish to deal with the upkeep and
> 2) I'm not sure that I want to stay where I am and do not wish to be
> saddled with trying to sell a house in Oklahoma's depressed economy.
Both real dumb reasons also I think a super good copout.
Ivan
===
>
> When I decide to settle down, I'll buy a home - but for now, being an
> apartment dweller suits me just fine.
I am sure you'r slumlord enjoys getting you'r money in return U get nothing.
Ivan
===
>
> You put down the car I own, even though I have explained that I
> bought it to restore because I love that particular model of car.
Just when are you going to begin this restoration project?..It seems you have
been writing about it for a long while. How about a B4 picture?
Ivan
====
>
> It's not that I cannot afford a new car - but why should I put myself
> in debt to buy a 2002 car when what I really want is a vintage car
Well U sure have one of them "vintage" autos what ever that is <smile>
Ivan
===
>
> that I can restore to my tastes? In the end, I'll likely spend as
> much restoring my Acura as I would buying a new car.
I really would enjoy knowing just where you'r tastes lie or R laying.
Ivan
===
> I don't care
> about that, it gives me satisfaction to work on the car, which doesn't
> need all that much work, anyway - than be bored with a new car.
> You seem to see such things as negatives. Has all your accumulated
> wealth - of which I don't really think there is a whole lot, as those
> who have it don't brag about it - brought you happiness? I would
> guess a big, fat "NO" on that question, as you are obviously a very
> unhappy and bitter person.
Well did U C my fixer upper? http://tinyurl.com/1fee
Ivan
===
> I have my "down" days, but all in all, I'm
> more than happ with my life. I have a nice place t live, a good job,
> a car I love, and most important - a woman that I love intensely.
> Honestly, everything but the last is superfluous.
>
> KRC
Life is good 4U my little dimbulb U make the system work <grin> bless the
dimbulbs of the world.
Ivan
===
victoria
bully could,and in doing so you continue to entertaine.dimbulb...what the
hell kind of name is that? not something i would excpect a grown adult to
say,but rather a child,upset at someone for some irrational reason. i also
by choice choose not to live in a home. my family has more money than you
could dream of but like with flur it is my choice to not pay property taxes
and not buy a house where i may or may not be staying. i travel alot so
though i am very content with things i have in my personal life here at the
moment this may or may not be the place for me. that does not automatically
mean a person has slumlords.there are apts and townhomes out there that cost
near as much as a house and are very,very nice indeed.i have met many
nice,upstanding landlords.you only get slumords if you live in the derelict
areas of a city. i do not and i can assure you flur does not. and as to the
car,he is actively working on it step by step and it looks a hell of alot
better than these damn okie beaters i see falling apart on the road and with
apparently no working lights.
from what i see and know and hear seems you are the working lacking in
several means-an ex wife that two years AFTER the divorce felt the need to
get a protective order out on you.good thing my circle of ppl outside this
newsgroup is not low enough one to have me meeting you-i put my ex husband
jerk in federal prison so i have NO sympathy for male jerks like that.and
your age-c'mon! i know teenagers with more maturity and that is sad when
that happens! and your job? i hear you are reportedly one of those
telemarketing jerks i let my caller id and answering machine take care of.
and finally,as for your alleged 'fixer upper'. i have seen the same photo
for years with nothing done to it.when are YOU going to get off your butt
and do something to your rundown mess?
he!
--
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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ivan @v@
victoria wrote:
> ah ivan,you still rant and rave and call names as only an unintelligent
> bully could,and in doing so you continue to entertaine.dimbulb...what the
> hell kind of name is that? not something i would excpect a grown adult to
> say,but rather a child,upset at someone for some irrational reason. i also
> by choice choose not to live in a home. my family has more money than you
> could dream of but like with flur it is my choice to not pay property taxes
Yeah lots of people just like you.. not paying property taxes and they are the
ones bitching because our schools are in a shortfall for funds.
Ivan
===
>
> and not buy a house where i may or may not be staying. i travel alot so
> though i am very content with things i have in my personal life here at the
> moment this may or may not be the place for me. that does not automatically
> mean a person has slumlords.there are apts and townhomes out there that cost
> near as much as a house and are very,very nice indeed.i have met many
> nice,upstanding landlords.you only get slumords if you live in the derelict
> areas of a city.
and just what areas of Tulsa are the "derelict areas"?
Ivan
===
> i do not and i can assure you flur does not. and as to the
> car,he is actively working on it step by step and it looks a hell of alot
> better than these damn okie beaters i see falling apart on the road and with
> apparently no working lights.
My car&truck R not falling apart also the required lights all are working.
Ivan
===
>
> from what i see and know and hear seems you are the working lacking in
> several means-an ex wife that two years AFTER the divorce felt the need to
> get a protective order out on you.
Are U sure about this?
Ivan
===
> good thing my circle of ppl outside this
> newsgroup is not low enough one to have me meeting you-i put my ex husband
> jerk in federal prison so i have NO sympathy for male jerks like that.and
Just what do U mean by that statement? meeting me? R U thinking U could put me
in federal prison? R U taking some kind of drugs?
Ivan
===
>
> your age-c'mon! i know teenagers with more maturity and that is sad when
> that happens! and your job? i hear you are reportedly one of those
> telemarketing jerks
Well there is nothing wrong with honest work..After leaving williams the Telo
Marketing hours fit my life style.
Ivan
===
> i let my caller id and answering machine take care of.
I can get around you'r caller ID thats no B E 4 me <smile>
Ivan
===
>
> and finally,as for your alleged 'fixer upper'. i have seen the same photo
> for years with nothing done to it.when are YOU going to get off your butt
> and do something to your rundown mess?
Well L@@k again little dimwitt I have painted it an antique orange rust colour.
Ivan
===
>
> he!
>
> --
> Care Take! victoria
And B ware of vicky he he(tm) <grin>
victoria
not bitching about schools you ignorant fool.i am stating facts on schools.i
have no kids so have no personal complaiints on the school system other than
my sister is one of the many teachers that this place is ripp[ing off.why
are you so ignorant ivan?? why do you not see the real world?i would rather
get a house when i am ready so i can therefore afford a nice one that some
trap-like what you proabaly live in- that i will later be putting on the
marker because as i said MY JOB HAS ME TRAVELING ALOT. i mean,really,if you
are having trouble with english maybe i can retype this in norwegian for
you?would THAT give you a better grasp? i live here in case you have not
noticed so i pay my taxes too.or did you realize nonhomeowners have taxes to
pay too?
your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
oklahoma a bad name.play your child's games on someone else,this is getting
damn old and all you do is reitterate your okie mindset(tm)
--
Care Take! victoria
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family atmosphere yet close to the city? Want good cost of living but money
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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victoria
all that land is in my family name,as are many hundreds of acres in talequah
and lawton.but i guess that is not enough land to you eh?
--
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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victoria
butthe facts are that i do indeed pay taxes and i do not need to further
prove it to an okiemind(TM) like yourself.calling names like that at your
age only proves childish ignorance. i am no longer going to play this
insipid child's game with you for noone with half an ounce of mentality
never needs to prove anything to you. you are just ignorant,childish and
jealous.
--
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> victoria wrote:
>
> > i choose not to waste my money on a home i am not sure i want and i
am
> > not bitching about schools you ignorant fool.i am stating facts on
schools.i
> > have no kids so have no personal complaiints on the school system other
than
> > my sister is one of the many teachers that this place is ripp[ing off.
>
> How is the State of Oklahoma ripping you'r sister off? It takes money to
pay
> teachers..You don't want to pay the taxes..I guess you'r sister gets
ripped off
> ..By people just like yourself vicky T--hehe(tm)
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > why
> > are you so ignorant ivan??
>
> I am not ignorant <smile> UR Ha Ha Ha
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > why do you not see the real world?i would rather
> > get a house when i am ready so i can therefore afford a nice one that
some
> > trap-like what you proabaly live in
>
> Well it's mine vicky I sure don't pay rent.<smile>
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > - that i will later be putting on the
> > marker because as i said MY JOB HAS ME TRAVELING ALOT
>
> Just where do U travel a lot? lots of people travel..I even do my share of
> traveling.
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > . i mean,really,if you
> > are having trouble with english maybe i can retype this in norwegian for
> > you?
>
> How would norwegian make you'r crazy writtings more clear?
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > would THAT give you a better grasp? i live here in case you have not
> > noticed so i pay my taxes
>
> How do I know this? Lots of people living here and not paying taxes.
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > too.or did you realize nonhomeowners have taxes to
> > pay too?
> > your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that
give
> > oklahoma a bad name
>
> No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
> thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
> Ivan
> ===
>
> > .play your child's games on someone else,this is getting
> > damn old and all you do is reitterate your okie mindset(tm)
> >
>
> No reply comment needed.
> Ivan
> ===
>
> >
> > --
> > Care Take! victoria
>
victoria
fool.not to mention my family land is oklahoma over all,before okies like
yourself stole it
<smirk>
--
Care Take! victoria
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family atmosphere yet close to the city? Want good cost of living but money
no object for house and land of your dreams? Then click on over!~~~>
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> victoria wrote:
>
> > oh,and since you think i do not own land ivan-go to
stonewallestates.com.
> > all that land is in my family name,as are many hundreds of acres in
talequah
> > and lawton.but i guess that is not enough land to you eh?
>
> Why is it only in the family name? Where is the lane U alone own?
> Ivan
> ====
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Care Take! victoria
>
ivan @v@
victoria wrote:
> i choose not to waste my money on a home i am not sure i want and i am
> not bitching about schools you ignorant fool.i am stating facts on schools.i
> have no kids so have no personal complaiints on the school system other than
> my sister is one of the many teachers that this place is ripp[ing off.
How is the State of Oklahoma ripping you'r sister off? It takes money to pay
teachers..You don't want to pay the taxes..I guess you'r sister gets ripped off
..By people just like yourself vicky T--hehe(tm)
Ivan
===
> why
> are you so ignorant ivan??
I am not ignorant <smile> UR Ha Ha Ha
Ivan
===
> why do you not see the real world?i would rather
> get a house when i am ready so i can therefore afford a nice one that some
> trap-like what you proabaly live in
Well it's mine vicky I sure don't pay rent.<smile>
Ivan
===
> - that i will later be putting on the
> marker because as i said MY JOB HAS ME TRAVELING ALOT
Just where do U travel a lot? lots of people travel..I even do my share of
traveling.
Ivan
===
> . i mean,really,if you
> are having trouble with english maybe i can retype this in norwegian for
> you?
How would norwegian make you'r crazy writtings more clear?
Ivan
===
> would THAT give you a better grasp? i live here in case you have not
> noticed so i pay my taxes
How do I know this? Lots of people living here and not paying taxes.
Ivan
===
> too.or did you realize nonhomeowners have taxes to
> pay too?
> your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
> oklahoma a bad name
No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
Ivan
===
> .play your child's games on someone else,this is getting
> damn old and all you do is reitterate your okie mindset(tm)
>
No reply comment needed.
ivan @v@
victoria wrote:
> oh,and since you think i do not own land ivan-go to stonewallestates.com.
> all that land is in my family name,as are many hundreds of acres in talequah
> and lawton.but i guess that is not enough land to you eh?
Why is it only in the family name? Where is the lane U alone own?
victoria
om du er trofast mer forstands enn jeg er har er du slump.skriver bakken i
tulsa.general i engelsk og norgeog spansk ja og no med ikke du vanlig
barnaktig und du vil vise seg til bli ved minst sa forstands sa jeg.
envher: jeg er bareskaffe en morsom okiemoment(tm) har:-)
--
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Boomerlake
>> oklahoma a bad name
>
>No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
>thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
>Ivan
>===
How absurd. Oklahoma was already a bad name long before the Internet came
along. Ivan, if you love Oklahoma so much why aren't you ranting and raving
about Gov. Keating bad mouthing Oklahoma. He calls it a third world state, for
instance. And him successfully bringing right to work to Oklahoma hasn't help
anything except bring a few hundred low pay warehousing jobs to the state.
ivan @v@
Boomerlake wrote:
> >> your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
> >> oklahoma a bad name
> >
> >No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
> >thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
> >Ivan
> >===
>
> How absurd. Oklahoma was already a bad name long before the Internet came
Funny that I never heard of this "mis-fact" you write of..Where is it printed
except on boobooworld(tm) that Oklahoma has this so called bad name?
Ivan
===
>
> along. Ivan, if you love Oklahoma so much why aren't you ranting and raving
> about Gov. Keating bad mouthing Oklahoma. He calls it a third world state, for
> instance.
Well he is on his way out..and I hope his clone does not make it as his
replacement.
Ivan
===
> And him successfully bringing right to work to Oklahoma hasn't help
> anything except bring a few hundred low pay warehousing jobs to the state.
I am in agreement about that.. and I hope this right to be a slave.. will be
overturned in the up coming court action.
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>victoria wrote:
>
>> ah ivan,you still rant and rave and call names as only an unintelligent
>> bully could,and in doing so you continue to entertaine.dimbulb...what the
>> hell kind of name is that? not something i would excpect a grown adult to
>> say,but rather a child,upset at someone for some irrational reason. i also
>> by choice choose not to live in a home. my family has more money than you
>> could dream of but like with flur it is my choice to not pay property taxes
>
>Yeah lots of people just like you.. not paying property taxes and they are the
>ones bitching because our schools are in a shortfall for funds.
Oh, I don't think her contribution will be missed, what her parents
pay in property taxes alone is likely more than you've ever made in a
single year.
--cut--
>and just what areas of Tulsa are the "derelict areas"?
How about your neighborhood?
Anyplace that would let you in has to be suspect...
>> i do not and i can assure you flur does not. and as to the
>> car,he is actively working on it step by step and it looks a hell of alot
>> better than these damn okie beaters i see falling apart on the road and with
>> apparently no working lights.
>
>My car&truck R not falling apart also the required lights all are working.
Engine doesn't run, though...
And they're not falling apart because you invest heavily in duct tape.
>> from what i see and know and hear seems you are the working lacking in
>> several means-an ex wife that two years AFTER the divorce felt the need to
>> get a protective order out on you.
>
>Are U sure about this?
Dance, Ivanfish(tm), dance! How many Ivan Hershs are there in Tulsa
that post from ioNET accounts to alt.torture listing their ex's
address and phone (the same woman whose name appears on the EPO) - an
account that can easliy be traced to the same Ivan Hersh with a
Prodigy DSL account and spammed this group over a couple of years from
both accounts about his computer (l)users group? If it talks like an
Ivanfish(tm), and dances like an Ivanfish(tm)...
>> good thing my circle of ppl outside this
>> newsgroup is not low enough one to have me meeting you-i put my ex husband
>> jerk in federal prison so i have NO sympathy for male jerks like that.and
>
>Just what do U mean by that statement? meeting me? R U thinking U could put me
>in federal prison? R U taking some kind of drugs?
No, but I wonder about you. Hey, Ivan - I hear hooked on phonics
does wonders for those who can't read.
--cut--
>Well there is nothing wrong with honest work..After leaving williams the Telo
>Marketing hours fit my life style.
So why were you trying to attack me, acting is if that sort of job
was one to be ashamed of. No, there's no harm in honest work, and
it's a perfectly good job for an older person who doesn't want to
remain idle and really doesn't have to be concerned with the low pay.
>> i let my caller id and answering machine take care of.
>
>I can get around you'r caller ID thats no B E 4 me <smile>
Oh wow! Ivan figured out *67 - what a fucking genius! Know what
*69 does, oh smart one?
--cut--
>And B ware of vicky he he(tm) <grin>>> and finally,as for your alleged 'fixer upper'. i have seen the same photo
>> for years with nothing done to it.when are YOU going to get off your butt
>> and do something to your rundown mess?
That would be what, her perfectly nice midtown condo? The land down
on Sheridan is looking for buyers - care to pony up for a lot?
Didn't think so, you couldn't afford the gravel along Sheridan by
the front entrance.
KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>victoria wrote:
>
>> i choose not to waste my money on a home i am not sure i want and i am
>> not bitching about schools you ignorant fool.i am stating facts on schools.i
>> have no kids so have no personal complaiints on the school system other than
>> my sister is one of the many teachers that this place is ripp[ing off.
>
>How is the State of Oklahoma ripping you'r sister off? It takes money to pay
>teachers..You don't want to pay the taxes..I guess you'r sister gets ripped off
>..By people just like yourself vicky T--hehe(tm)
Boy, you're dumb. Really, really, fucking dumb.
>> why
>> are you so ignorant ivan??
>
>I am not ignorant <smile> UR Ha Ha Ha
Oh, no, you are really ignorant. See, Ivan, while you run around
making assumptions about Victoria and her family, I know who she
really is. I know who her father is. I know where her sister
teaches. Let's just say that when and if you ever find out, you are
going to figure out just how deeply you really stepped in it with your
condescending games.
>> why do you not see the real world?i would rather
>> get a house when i am ready so i can therefore afford a nice one that some
>> trap-like what you proabaly live in
>
>Well it's mine vicky I sure don't pay rent.<smile>
Oooooooooooooooh! That makes you *such* a big man! Do you walk
around men's restrooms looking at other men's penises because you
think you have the biggest one in town?
--cut--
>Just where do U travel a lot? lots of people travel..I even do my share of
>traveling.
Owasso, Claremore, Sang Springs, and Girl Scout Camps do not
qualify...
--cut--
>How would norwegian make you'r crazy writtings more clear?
Well, when it comes to your writing, it probably is. You totally
missed the point, however, which was that since you have such trouble
with English, you could not even begin to fathom Norwegian.
>> would THAT give you a better grasp? i live here in case you have not
>> noticed so i pay my taxes
>
>How do I know this? Lots of people living here and not paying taxes.
Speaking from experience? You know, Ivan, you still haven't put two
and two together about just what my relationship is to Victoria, and
while I should be pissed at your insults, I find them more laughable
than anything else. So pathetic, watching you twist and turn with
another 50lbs. of tackle dangling from your mouth.
--cut--
>No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
>thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
Oh, I think we need more people like her. You know, those who have
seen the world of the Civilized States(tm) and don't accept
Goat-Blowing(tm) as a regular part of life.
>> .play your child's games on someone else,this is getting
>> damn old and all you do is reitterate your okie mindset(tm)
>>
>
>No reply comment needed.
Of course not, you can't put enough brain cells together to make one.
KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>Boomerlake wrote:
>
>> >> your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
>> >> oklahoma a bad name
>> >
>> >No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
>> >thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
>> >Ivan
>> >===
>>
>> How absurd. Oklahoma was already a bad name long before the Internet came
>
>Funny that I never heard of this "mis-fact" you write of..Where is it printed
>except on boobooworld(tm) that Oklahoma has this so called bad name?
Instructions for Understanding:
1) Have someone place hands firmy upon your shoulders.
2) Pull back on shoulders until head is removed from ass.
Not up on history, eh? Color me shocked. Oklahoma has long been a
"laughingstock" state - sometime rightly so, but mostly not. Travel
outside the state - I mean well outside the state - and see how we are
perceived as a state. It's not that kindly.
Sure, one canchalk it up to the ignoranceof those outside the state,
but somehow we managed to do something to gain such a reputation - and
Bubbaworld ain't it, pal. In 1986, I was in Philadelphia - people
there were literally shocked that we had cable TV and didn't live in
teepees or ride horses to work. I'm not kidding - that was literally
the perception of Oklahoma. We showed friends up there photographs of
the Oklahoma City and Tulsa skylines - you wouldn't believe the actual
shock on their faces that these were "real" cities.
And it persists to this day. When a state is known for football,
some erroneous idea of "Cwboys and indians" (perpetuated by the
Tourism Department, BTW), a bombing, tornadoes, and the Dust Bowl...I
think it's fair to say we have an image problem.
Much of this comes from the state government, which celebrates the
"history" and not the history. We are a state with a very unique
history. Oklahoma City is the only major American city that was
literally founded in a single day. Did you know that's not even
taught in most Oklahoma History courses? Did you know that the first
"sit-in" of the American Civil RIghts Movement occurred at Katz Drug
Store in Oklahoma City in 1958 - two full years before the
acknowledged "first" such protest in Greensboro, NC? How about the
story of Ada Lois Sipuel? Ever heard of Kate Barnard, and if so, what
was her role in the 1911 Oklahoma City Streetcar Strike? And speaking
of labor in Oklahoma, what of the IWW, the Knights of Liberty, and the
Mid-Continent Refinery Strike?
Hell, most Okies don't even know that the virtually-completed dome
on the State Capitol was always supposed to be there. The Capitol was
never intended to be without a dome, its construction was halted by
materials stortages brought on by World War I. And speaking of the
Capitol, what was the significance of the Lee-Huckins Hotel?
Come on, Ivan, you Oklahoma-lover, tell this "Okilahoma-hating thug"
the answers to these questions. I expect detailed replies...otherwise
we have our answer as to why Oklahoma is perceived badly - a bunch of
idiots who claim to love the state, yet know nothing about it beyond -
"Go Sooners!"
Can you tell me where the Glass Mountains are? How about Devil's
Canyon? What is the Bridgeport Crossing, and can you tell me how to
get to it? How about Jesse Chisholm and his grave? We can even have
fun - where's the "Spook Light"? Name the Oklahoma City barbeque
restaurant that was once a haunt of Pretty Boy Floyd in its original
Speakeasy days? Hell, name the Speakeasy, Mr. Okie! Give me Pretty
Boy Floyd's given name and the nickname locals called him while your
at it. What Oklahoma Governor has two counties named after him?
Come on, you should know these...
And when you're done Googling those, I have many, many
more...bwwwwahahaha!
--cut--
KRC
victoria
answers: no,you cannot get around my caller id.ppl beter than you have
tried. if i do not recognize the number i simply do not answer it and you
have no clue the names of ppl i know so there is no way you can work around
it.
i travel with my job all over the usa from coast to coast.and i also
travel for leisure internationally.
my car is not falling apart-think before you speak ivan-my car i got new
off the lot with my own money in 1998 and aside from a tiny dent in front in
runs like a charm and has never had a thing wrong with it.
my rent goes where my property tax would if i owned a home-taxes and other
ppl's pockets.my home here is nicer than i bet you have and some of the
property that equally has my name on it has very expensive homes on it. if
you are so muh beter thanme i dare you to even be allowed in to view some of
my property.it is too exclusive for you and you would not be allowed near
it.
oh and yes i am very sure about what i said.i know all about you.more than
you do about me.but of course you will whine,childishly call names and deny
which is fine.i expect nothing more from you yet it does not change the
truth.you are lucky.i would do more to a jerk like you were you my ex
husband.
i had kindly asked you in norwegian that if you did in fact know more
than me then you ould at least know AS MUCH as me and could rspond back in a
mature way without your immature,pussyfooted,childish whining. but i see you
cannot. no surprise...
your usefulness as my entertaining pawn has expired dear ivanfish(TM).
time o throw you back in and let someone else hook,snare and play with you.
except where i feel i wish to add something in krc's defense i am now on to
more intelligent conversations and better entertainment. do not try to goad
me-you wil not. i was simply toying with you the whole damn time and now the
game bores me.
--
Care Take! victoria
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3D866452...@hotmail.com...
victoria
ivanfish(TM)
what i meant by that comment is i am too smart for jerks like you and in
accordance to the protective order you and my ex husband are the same.
secondly if you were intelligent enough to red a previous post of mine you
will see i do not do drugs and in fact abhore them.
last comment: i am now registered on the no call list so if your or any
other telo company attempts to 'crack' through my caller id which is
ludicrious since i answer no number i do not recognize i willl persue them
to the full extent of the law and have backing to do so.
--
Care Take! victoria
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"ivan @v@" <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3D8651A9...@hotmail.com...
ivan @v@
victoria wrote:
> figured you could not get it ivanfiah(tm) :-)
> answers: no,you cannot get around my caller id.ppl beter than you have
> tried. if i do not recognize the number i simply do not answer it and you
> have no clue the names of ppl i know so there is no way you can work around
> it.
Says U <grin>
Ivan
===
>
> i travel with my job all over the usa from coast to coast.and i also
> travel for leisure internationally.
> my car is not falling apart-think before you speak ivan-my car i got new
> off the lot with my own money in 1998 and aside from a tiny dent in front in
> runs like a charm and has never had a thing wrong with it.
Let me guess...~~~ it's a honda just like the one krc has..right? a Jap tin
can.. Now let me show U a real car http://tinyurl.com/1hyj it runs great and
it's paid 4 <smile> Sorry if it sounds like I am a bragging :-p
Ivan
===
>
>
> my rent goes where my property tax would if i owned a home-taxes and other
> ppl's pockets.my home here is nicer than i bet you have
Well have U L@@ked at my little home sweet home http://tinyurl.com/1fee Now I
think U better think again vicky T hehe(tm) Not 2 B bragging again but my proof
is in the picture <grin>
Ivan
===
> and some of the
> property that equally has my name on it has very expensive homes on it. if
> you are so muh beter thanme i dare you to even be allowed in to view some of
> my property.it is too exclusive for you and you would not be allowed near
> it.
Oh my I am so sorry "NOT ALLOWED NEAR" I would fall on my knees 2 view such
wonderful sights Ha Ha Ha Ha <smile> O vicky bicky T hehehe(tm) U just made my
day a little brighter <smile>
Ivan
===
>
> oh and yes i am very sure about what i said.i know all about you.more than
> you do about me
Says who <grin>
Ivan
====
> .but of course you will whine,childishly call names and deny
> which is fine.i expect nothing more from you yet it does not change the
> truth.you are lucky.i would do more to a jerk like you were you my ex
> husband.
I think you'r Ex hubby was a real nice guy that U gave the shaft 2 <sadface> :-(
Ivan
===
>
> i had kindly asked you in norwegian that if you did in fact know more
> than me then you ould at least know AS MUCH as me and could rspond back in a
> mature way without your immature,pussyfooted,childish whining. but i see you
> cannot. no surprise...
Oh yeah respond in norrwalk Ha Ha How about Bwanna?
Ivan
===
>
> your usefulness as my entertaining pawn has expired dear ivanfish(TM).
> time o throw you back in and let someone else hook,snare and play with you.
> except where i feel i wish to add something in krc's defense i am now on to
> more intelligent conversations and better entertainment. do not try to goad
> me-you wil not. i was simply toying with you the whole damn time and now the
> game bores me.
O well everyone has gotta go sometime <bye> vicky 2 or is it three shoes?
Ivan
===
>
>
> --
> Care Take! victoria Or what ever Ha Ha Ha
ivan @v@
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:31:50 GMT, "ivan @v@"
>
> >Boomerlake wrote:
> >
> >> >> your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
> >> >> oklahoma a bad name
> >> >
> >> >No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
> >> >thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
> >> >Ivan
> >> >===
> >>
> >> How absurd. Oklahoma was already a bad name long before the Internet came
> >
> >Funny that I never heard of this "mis-fact" you write of..Where is it printed
> >except on boobooworld(tm) that Oklahoma has this so called bad name?
>
> Instructions for Understanding:
>
> 1) Have someone place hands firmy upon your shoulders.
> 2) Pull back on shoulders until head is removed from ass.
>
> Not up on history, eh? Color me shocked. Oklahoma has long been a
> "laughingstock" state - sometime rightly so, but mostly not. Travel
> outside the state - I mean well outside the state - and see how we are
> perceived as a state. It's not that kindly.
I would like to see some real proof of this..I mean real sound proof not a bunch of
the same old crap that is always being posted as fact.
Ivan
===
>
> Sure, one canchalk it up to the ignoranceof those outside the state,
> but somehow we managed to do something to gain such a reputation - and
> Bubbaworld ain't it, pal. In 1986, I was in Philadelphia - people
> there were literally shocked that we had cable TV and didn't live in
> teepees or ride horses to work. I'm not kidding - that was literally
Well I also have been to Philadelphia I never found people asking such stupid
questions..Where were you at a kinder garden school talking to little children?
Ivan
===
>
> the perception of Oklahoma. We showed friends up there photographs of
> the Oklahoma City and Tulsa skylines - you wouldn't believe the actual
> shock on their faces that these were "real" cities.
Oh give me a break I just don't find this as anything other then Anti-Oklahoma
bashing.
Ivan
===
>
> And it persists to this day. When a state is known for football,
> some erroneous idea of "Cwboys and indians" (perpetuated by the
> Tourism Department, BTW), a bombing, tornadoes, and the Dust Bowl...I
> think it's fair to say we have an image problem.
You'r going off the deep end you know <smile> More Anti-Oklahoma bashing and just a
bunch of worthless junk you have condered up.
Ivan
===
>
> Much of this comes from the state government, which celebrates the
> "history" and not the history. We are a state with a very unique
> history. Oklahoma City is the only major American city that was
> literally founded in a single day. Did you know that's not even
> taught in most Oklahoma History courses? Did you know that the first
> "sit-in" of the American Civil RIghts Movement occurred at Katz Drug
> Store in Oklahoma City in 1958
No
> - two full years before the
> acknowledged "first" such protest in Greensboro, NC? How about the
> story of Ada Lois Sipuel? Ever heard of Kate Barnard, and if so, what
> was her role in the 1911 Oklahoma City Streetcar Strike?
No
> And speaking
> of labor in Oklahoma, what of the IWW, the Knights of Liberty, and the
> Mid-Continent Refinery Strike?
Hmmmm was that this year? or last year?
Ivan
===
>
> Hell, most Okies don't even know that the virtually-completed dome
> on the State Capitol was always supposed to be there. The Capitol was
> never intended to be without a dome, its construction was halted by
> materials stortages brought on by World War I. And speaking of the
> Capitol, what was the significance of the Lee-Huckins Hotel?
> Come on, Ivan, you Oklahoma-lover, tell this "Okilahoma-hating thug"
> the answers to these questions. I expect detailed replies...otherwise
Why do you expect a reply? I see no real need to drum up a history lesson.
Ivan
===
>
> we have our answer as to why Oklahoma is perceived badly - a bunch of
> idiots who claim to love the state, yet know nothing about it beyond -
> "Go Sooners!"
And what is wrong with having a great football team..other states have them?
Ivan
===
>
> Can you tell me where the Glass Mountains are? How about Devil's
> Canyon? What is the Bridgeport Crossing, and can you tell me how to
> get to it? How about Jesse Chisholm and his grave? We can even have
> fun - where's the "Spook Light"? Name the Oklahoma City barbeque
> restaurant that was once a haunt of Pretty Boy Floyd in its original
> Speakeasy days? Hell, name the Speakeasy, Mr. Okie! Give me Pretty
> Boy Floyd's given name and the nickname locals called him while your
> at it. What Oklahoma Governor has two counties named after him?
>
> Come on, you should know these...
>
> And when you're done Googling those, I have many, many
> more...bwwwwahahaha!
Well you also can do ya own googling <smile>
Ivan
===
>
>
> --cut--
>
> KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:31:50 GMT, "ivan @v@"
>>
>> >Boomerlake wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> your total ignorance is hysterical ivan and it is ppl like you that give
>> >> >> oklahoma a bad name
>> >> >
>> >> >No I disagree it's lame brains like U and the rest of ya Anti-Oklahoma net
>> >> >thugging pals that give Oklahoma a bad name.
>> >> >Ivan
>> >> >===
>> >>
>> >> How absurd. Oklahoma was already a bad name long before the Internet came
>> >
>> >Funny that I never heard of this "mis-fact" you write of..Where is it printed
>> >except on boobooworld(tm) that Oklahoma has this so called bad name?
>>
>> Instructions for Understanding:
>>
>> 1) Have someone place hands firmy upon your shoulders.
>> 2) Pull back on shoulders until head is removed from ass.
>>
>> Not up on history, eh? Color me shocked. Oklahoma has long been a
>> "laughingstock" state - sometime rightly so, but mostly not. Travel
>> outside the state - I mean well outside the state - and see how we are
>> perceived as a state. It's not that kindly.
>
>I would like to see some real proof of this..I mean real sound proof not a bunch of
>the same old crap that is always being posted as fact.
Leave the state and say you're from Oklahoma - all the proof you need.
>> Sure, one canchalk it up to the ignoranceof those outside the state,
>> but somehow we managed to do something to gain such a reputation - and
>> Bubbaworld ain't it, pal. In 1986, I was in Philadelphia - people
>> there were literally shocked that we had cable TV and didn't live in
>> teepees or ride horses to work. I'm not kidding - that was literally
>
>Well I also have been to Philadelphia I never found people asking such stupid
>questions..Where were you at a kinder garden school talking to little children?
Adults, moron.
>> the perception of Oklahoma. We showed friends up there photographs of
>> the Oklahoma City and Tulsa skylines - you wouldn't believe the actual
>> shock on their faces that these were "real" cities.
>
>Oh give me a break I just don't find this as anything other then Anti-Oklahoma
>bashing.
Then you are stupid, as I was being defensive of my home state.
Leave it to a complete fucking moron like you to consider that as
"Anti-Oklahoma"...
>You'r going off the deep end you know <smile> More Anti-Oklahoma bashing and just a
>bunch of worthless junk you have condered up.
Hey, Ivan, the word is "conjured", and you're still a goddamn idiot.
I don't like the image Oklahoma has outside of its borders, can't you
figure that out? No, of course not, I forget you are a one-track
mind, and that mind is set on "Insult KRC"... You pull this shit even
when I'm in agreement with you. No fucking wonder I don't like you
and never will - I disagree with a lot of people but don't genuinely
dislike them, except for one. And guess who that is? And guess why
that is? Not because you "defend" Oklahoma by being a blithering
idiot - but because you are a hateful, blithering idiot of the type
that gives Oklahoma its bad name.
>> Much of this comes from the state government, which celebrates the
>> "history" and not the history. We are a state with a very unique
>> history. Oklahoma City is the only major American city that was
>> literally founded in a single day. Did you know that's not even
>> taught in most Oklahoma History courses? Did you know that the first
>> "sit-in" of the American Civil RIghts Movement occurred at Katz Drug
>> Store in Oklahoma City in 1958
>
>No
I'm shocked, really. But, Ivan, aren't you the defender of all
Oklahoma? Shit, you don't even know its history, do you? That makes
you even more of a typical Okie.
>> - two full years before the
>> acknowledged "first" such protest in Greensboro, NC? How about the
>> story of Ada Lois Sipuel? Ever heard of Kate Barnard, and if so, what
>> was her role in the 1911 Oklahoma City Streetcar Strike?
>
>No
Again, not surprised, real Okies are ignorant of Oklahoma history.
>> And speaking
>> of labor in Oklahoma, what of the IWW, the Knights of Liberty, and the
>> Mid-Continent Refinery Strike?
>
>Hmmmm was that this year? or last year?
Is that how far your brain goes back? I'm talking history to an
idiot.
>> Hell, most Okies don't even know that the virtually-completed dome
>> on the State Capitol was always supposed to be there. The Capitol was
>> never intended to be without a dome, its construction was halted by
>> materials stortages brought on by World War I. And speaking of the
>> Capitol, what was the significance of the Lee-Huckins Hotel?
>> Come on, Ivan, you Oklahoma-lover, tell this "Okilahoma-hating thug"
>> the answers to these questions. I expect detailed replies...otherwise
>
>Why do you expect a reply? I see no real need to drum up a history lesson.
I do, because you claim to be a expert on Oklahoma, yet you don't
know a goddamn thing about it. I'm merely making you look like more
of an idiot by getting you to admit that you know nothing about this
state. No wonder I've never seen you hanging about at the many
functions I've participated in for the Oklahoma Historical Society -
you were too busy being a dumbass Okie and wallowing in your delusions
rather than learning anything about the state.
>> we have our answer as to why Oklahoma is perceived badly - a bunch of
>> idiots who claim to love the state, yet know nothing about it beyond -
>> "Go Sooners!"
>
>And what is wrong with having a great football team..other states have them?
Wooooooooooooooooooosh!
>> Can you tell me where the Glass Mountains are? How about Devil's
>> Canyon? What is the Bridgeport Crossing, and can you tell me how to
>> get to it? How about Jesse Chisholm and his grave? We can even have
>> fun - where's the "Spook Light"? Name the Oklahoma City barbeque
>> restaurant that was once a haunt of Pretty Boy Floyd in its original
>> Speakeasy days? Hell, name the Speakeasy, Mr. Okie! Give me Pretty
>> Boy Floyd's given name and the nickname locals called him while your
>> at it. What Oklahoma Governor has two counties named after him?
>>
>> Come on, you should know these...
>>
>> And when you're done Googling those, I have many, many
>> more...bwwwwahahaha!
>
>Well you also can do ya own googling <smile>
Don't need to, can answer them all from memory. You can't answer
anything - stupid, stupid, Okie.
KRC
Boomerlake
>idiot - but because you are a hateful, blithering idiot of the type
>that gives Oklahoma its bad name.
>
May God help him if he voted for Gov. Keating not once but twice, and is
looking forward to voting for Largent.
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>victoria wrote:
>
>> figured you could not get it ivanfiah(tm) :-)
>> answers: no,you cannot get around my caller id.ppl beter than you have
>> tried. if i do not recognize the number i simply do not answer it and you
>> have no clue the names of ppl i know so there is no way you can work around
>> it.
>
>Says U <grin>
>Ivan
>===
>
>>
>> i travel with my job all over the usa from coast to coast.and i also
>> travel for leisure internationally.
>> my car is not falling apart-think before you speak ivan-my car i got new
>> off the lot with my own money in 1998 and aside from a tiny dent in front in
>> runs like a charm and has never had a thing wrong with it.
>
>Let me guess...~~~ it's a honda just like the one krc has..right? a Jap tin
>can.. Now let me show U a real car http://tinyurl.com/1hyj it runs great and
>it's paid 4 <smile> Sorry if it sounds like I am a bragging :-p
At least you have a sense of humor, but the thing is that I really
do think that's your car. Why else would anyone in their right mind
take a picture of any 1970's Chrysler product unless it was part of a
product liability suit?
I hate to pull a --->VENOM<--- and give out a link to a picture that
I did not take, but this is more or less my car:
http://www.dahliaflower.org/legend.jpg
Same color and interior, but that's a standard model, I have an "L"
model. I also have tinted windows, and the factory rear spoiler.
Other than that, that picture is exactly what the "Gray Ghost" looks
like. And, BTW, Ivan, that "Jap tin can" (thanks for the further
racism...) cost $32,000 when it was originally purchased - I have all
the paperwork. Not a cheap car, by any stretch of the imagination -
and hardly a mere Honda. Again, idiot, the Acura marque was created
by Honda to tap into the market of Yuppies that might otherwise buy
Beemers or Mercedes. I suggest you do some research on just why the
Acura Legend was created and the impact it had on the automotive
world. It virtually created the luxury sports coupe class, and one of
the reason I choose to own one - it was a milestone car. It's also
very powerful - trashed some punk on Memorial a few weeks back. Maybe
that was you, think it was just some "Jap tin can" and not a car
intentionally built to be a high performance car in luxury car
clothing.
>> my rent goes where my property tax would if i owned a home-taxes and other
>> ppl's pockets.my home here is nicer than i bet you have
>
>Well have U L@@ked at my little home sweet home http://tinyurl.com/1fee Now I
>think U better think again vicky T hehe(tm) Not 2 B bragging again but my proof
>is in the picture <grin>
Ivan, now you're just being a dumbfuck.
>> and some of the
>> property that equally has my name on it has very expensive homes on it. if
>> you are so muh beter thanme i dare you to even be allowed in to view some of
>> my property.it is too exclusive for you and you would not be allowed near
>> it.
>
>Oh my I am so sorry "NOT ALLOWED NEAR" I would fall on my knees 2 view such
>wonderful sights Ha Ha Ha Ha <smile> O vicky bicky T hehehe(tm) U just made my
>day a little brighter <smile>
Typical Okie reply...
>> oh and yes i am very sure about what i said.i know all about you.more than
>> you do about me
>
>Says who <grin>
Says me. If anyone knows anything about Victoria on this newsgroup,
it would be me <grin> Haven't you figured this out my relationship to
her yet?
--cut--
>I think you'r Ex hubby was a real nice guy that U gave the shaft 2 <sadface> :-(
Wrong, as usual.
>>
>> i had kindly asked you in norwegian that if you did in fact know more
>> than me then you ould at least know AS MUCH as me and could rspond back in a
>> mature way without your immature,pussyfooted,childish whining. but i see you
>> cannot. no surprise...
>
>Oh yeah respond in norrwalk Ha Ha How about Bwanna?
WTF?
>> your usefulness as my entertaining pawn has expired dear ivanfish(TM).
>> time o throw you back in and let someone else hook,snare and play with you.
>> except where i feel i wish to add something in krc's defense i am now on to
>> more intelligent conversations and better entertainment. do not try to goad
>> me-you wil not. i was simply toying with you the whole damn time and now the
>> game bores me.
>
>O well everyone has gotta go sometime <bye> vicky 2 or is it three shoes?
WTF?
KRC
beatnik
typed the following proverb:
>I would like to see some real proof of this..I mean real sound proof not a bunch of
>the same old crap that is always being posted as fact.
Speaking of this, I was at home today watching a game show today where
the contestants guess what people will answer. When asked a question
about Hillbilly's the girl chose one of the men and said, "He looks
like he's an Okie he must know about Hillbilly's" That's most of the
worlds perception of this state, Ivan. Something you continue to
radiate.
beatnik
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
It's not a quality picture but I can make out the general shape..I am guessing at the
colour pale green?
Ivan
====
Let me show U a real sweet and pretty auto. http://tinyurl.com/1ici hope U like it.
Ivan
===
>
>
> Same color and interior, but that's a standard model, I have an "L"
> model. I also have tinted windows, and the factory rear spoiler.
> Other than that, that picture is exactly what the "Gray Ghost" looks
> like. And, BTW, Ivan, that "Jap tin can" (thanks for the further
> racism...) cost $32,000 when it was originally purchased - I have all
> the paperwork. Not a cheap car, by any stretch of the imagination -
> and hardly a mere Honda. Again, idiot, the Acura marque was created
> by Honda to tap into the market of Yuppies that might otherwise buy
> Beemers or Mercedes. I suggest you do some research on just why the
> Acura Legend was created and the impact it had on the automotive
> world. It virtually created the luxury sports coupe class, and one of
> the reason I choose to own one - it was a milestone car. It's also
> very powerful - trashed some punk on Memorial a few weeks back. Maybe
> that was you,
Guess again that Cordoba has a 400 CI mill hidden under the hood..That "acura" would
have had no chance in hell of trashing it <grin>
Ivan
===
> think it was just some "Jap tin can" and not a car
> intentionally built to be a high performance car in luxury car
> clothing.
>
It was built in some attempt to try keeping up with Nissans Maxima but it fell short.
Ivan
====
Flur A Do'ruinn
No, it's not a very good picture. It does look somewhat greenish,
now that you mention it, but it's charcoal gray. As far as I know,
green of any sort was not offered by Acura on the first-generation
Legend.
>Let me show U a real sweet and pretty auto. http://tinyurl.com/1ici hope U like it.
What is that, a Corolla? Not a bad car at all. My previous car was
close to that shade of purple, always liked the way the sun hits that
shade.
--cut--
>Guess again that Cordoba has a 400 CI mill hidden under the hood..That "acura" would
>have had no chance in hell of trashing it <grin>
Yeah, 400ci, but it's a lead sled. I could take that land yacht
without trying. Remember, the Legend Coupes were designed to compete
with BMW and Mercedes, not old men in old Cordobas sold to them by
Khan, touting their "rich, Corinthian leather"... Yeah, Chrysler had
to tout the leather seats because they knew the owners would be
sitting in them for a long time waiting for a tow truck because the
cars sucked. There's a reason Chrysler went bankrupt at the end of
the 1970's, and that hunk of steel you call a car is a clue as to why.
When you hire Khan to sell your cars, that's a big clue *not* to buy
them - do not hire actors known for playing evil villans if you want
to send the message that it's a good car to own. Yes, I know Ricardo
Montalban was also Mr. Roarke, which is clue #2 as to why you don't
buy Chrysler products. Not only is he an evil villan, he's a guy that
convinces people that their fantasies will come true on his island.
Fantasies like the Corboba isn't actually an overweight piece of shit
that runs only 10% of the time.
>> think it was just some "Jap tin can" and not a car
>> intentionally built to be a high performance car in luxury car
>> clothing.
>>
>
>It was built in some attempt to try keeping up with Nissans Maxima but it fell short.
Um, no. In 1986, the Maxima was not the performance car it is
today. The person who got me started on the Legend Coupes was a
lawyer here in OKC that had both a Legend and a Maxima - no
comparison. The Maxima is a nice car, but back then, it wasn't a
luxury performance car. Today, it's a different story - and modern
Acuras still out-perform the Maxima. (Checked the stats on the 260-hp
3.2 TL Type-S vs. the VQ-engined Maximas at 222-hp?) You're implying
that the Legend was a failure, if so - why is it still being made?
That's right, Mr. Car Boy, it's still made. I don't know why, but
some genius at Acura decided to market it in the U.S. as the "TL", in
Japan and elsewhere, it's still called the Legend. Rumor has is that
"TL" actually stand for "The Legend." Acura has never said one way or
another what "TL" means, which probably fuels the rumors. At any
rate, the TL is a Legend, so the car that "fell short" of the Maxima
is still being made - and marketed to people who wouldn't stoop down
to buying a Maxima. Completely different category of car - people who
buy Acura Legends are generally not those also considering a Maxima -
an Infiniti, yes, but not a pedestrian Maxima. Oh, and BTW, Mr. Car
Boy, the Honda engines that have always powered Acuras are
stepped-down derivatives of those used in racing - but I'm sure you
knew that, considering that you say that the Legend "fell short" of
the Maxima - bwahahahahaha! Thanks, I needed a good laugh on this
otherwise boring day.
KRC
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
Better get ya EYEs checked or have someone that know cars tell U what model it is. <grin>
Ivan
===
> Not a bad car at all. My previous car was
> close to that shade of purple, always liked the way the sun hits that
> shade.
Again L@@k again or maybe you'r video card is just built into you'r webtv system Ha Ha Ha
The colour is Nissans Rosewood.<smile>
Ivan
===
>
>
> --cut--
>
> >Guess again that Cordoba has a 400 CI mill hidden under the hood..That "acura" would
> >have had no chance in hell of trashing it <grin>
>
> Yeah, 400ci, but it's a lead sled. I could take that land yacht
> without trying. Remember, the Legend Coupes were designed to compete
> with BMW and Mercedes, not old men in old Cordobas sold to them by
> Khan, touting their "rich, Corinthian leather"... Yeah, Chrysler had
> to tout the leather seats because they knew the owners would be
> sitting in them for a long time waiting for a tow truck because the
> cars sucked. There's a reason Chrysler went bankrupt at the end of
> the 1970's, and that hunk of steel you call a car is a clue as to why.
> When you hire Khan to sell your cars, that's a big clue *not* to buy
> them - do not hire actors known for playing evil villans if you want
> to send the message that it's a good car to own. Yes, I know Ricardo
> Montalban was also Mr. Roarke, which is clue #2 as to why you don't
> buy Chrysler products. Not only is he an evil villan, he's a guy that
> convinces people that their fantasies will come true on his island.
> Fantasies like the Corboba isn't actually an overweight piece of shit
> that runs only 10% of the time.
Funny it seems to have been running since 78 when it was new..And the weight makes it a
pretty safe bet you'r little "actor leggen"(tm) better not have a run in with one of
them...crunch!!! splat!!! what was that a BUG? Ha Ha Ha
Ivan
===
>
>
> >> think it was just some "Jap tin can" and not a car
> >> intentionally built to be a high performance car in luxury car
> >> clothing.
> >>
> >
> >It was built in some attempt to try keeping up with Nissans Maxima but it fell short.
>
> Um, no. In 1986, the Maxima was not the performance car it is
> today. The person who got me started on the Legend Coupes was a
> lawyer here in OKC that had both a Legend and a Maxima - no
> comparison. The Maxima is a nice car, but back then, it wasn't a
> luxury performance car. Today, it's a different story - and modern
> Acuras still out-perform the Maxima. (Checked the stats on the 260-hp
> 3.2 TL Type-S vs. the VQ-engined Maximas at 222-hp?)
So U think it's only the H.P. that gives a car the performance edge? Why is it the the VQ
has been in the years 10 best engines for the past 10 years? Where is the Honda V6 been
called a years best engine? Answer it has not happened <grin>
Ivan
===
> You're implying
> that the Legend was a failure, if so - why is it still being made?
> That's right, Mr. Car Boy, it's still made. I don't know why, but
> some genius at Acura decided to market it in the U.S. as the "TL", in
> Japan and elsewhere, it's still called the Legend. Rumor has is that
> "TL" actually stand for "The Legend." Acura has never said one way or
> another what "TL" means, which probably fuels the rumors. At any
> rate, the TL is a Legend, so the car that "fell short" of the Maxima
> is still being made - and marketed to people who wouldn't stoop down
> to buying a Maxima. Completely different category of car - people who
> buy Acura Legends are generally not those also considering a Maxima -
> an Infiniti, yes, but not a pedestrian Maxima. Oh, and BTW, Mr. Car
> Boy, the Honda engines that have always powered Acuras are
> stepped-down derivatives of those used in racing - but I'm sure you
> knew that, considering that you say that the Legend "fell short" of
> the Maxima - bwahahahahaha! Thanks, I needed a good laugh on this
> otherwise boring day.
>
> KRC
> KRC
I sure see more Maximas then ackey leggens(tm) being driven. Thank you 4 some needed
laughs.
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
Oh, sorry I insulted your beautiful Maxipad...it's such a stellar
ride and all, and reflects your wealth and originality. A Maxima just
screams "Hey, look at me! I'm an individual, and I can afford
$199/month payments to Riverside!" How about this - try buying a car
that doesn't look exactly like 15 other models on the road.
>> Not a bad car at all. My previous car was
>> close to that shade of purple, always liked the way the sun hits that
>> shade.
>
>Again L@@k again or maybe you'r video card is just built into you'r webtv system Ha Ha Ha
>The colour is Nissans Rosewood.<smile>
It's fucking purple, sheesh. GM called the color on my last car
"Hawaiian Orchid", but it was still purple. Are you trying to impress
me by telling me the "high-falutin'" name Nissan gave purple? Not
working.
--cut--
>Funny it seems to have been running since 78 when it was new..And the weight makes it a
>pretty safe bet you'r little "actor leggen"(tm) better not have a run in with one of
>them...crunch!!! splat!!! what was that a BUG? Ha Ha Ha
Not a worry, a Chrysler Cordoba is a punch line. It may have been
running since 1978, but I'll bet that you have spent as much as the
car cost new just keeping it from being yard art. Not impressing me
at all with your Cordoba - could you possibly have picked a car that
is just behind the Yugo and DeLorean as the butt of jokes?
>So U think it's only the H.P. that gives a car the performance edge? Why is it the the VQ
>has been in the years 10 best engines for the past 10 years? Where is the Honda V6 been
>called a years best engine? Answer it has not happened <grin>
Funny, I don't recall saying the VQ was not a good engine. I was
talking sheer power-to-weight ratio. The Acura TL outperforms the
Maxima in all categories, sorry to inform you of this. Not saying the
Maxima is a bad car - quite the contrary, it's an excellent car.
However, you can cite all the "Top 10" lists you wish, still won't
change the fact a Legend (TL) outperforms a Maxima. The Maxima is not
even in the same category. Take a look at this:
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/summ/index.cfm/id/20533.htm
Notice how the Nissan Maxima is not listed as a comparable car to
the TL, but Nissan's upscale Infiniti I35 is? That should give you a
hint as to where Honda markets the Acura marque, and it's obviously
not to potential Maxima buyers. Never has been Acura's target market
- the Maxima buyer is targeted by the Accord, not anything in Acura's
lineup. You're talking apples and oranges.
--cut--
>I sure see more Maximas then ackey leggens(tm) being driven. Thank you 4 some needed
>laughs.
Naturally, not every Okie moron like you can afford an Acura on a
telemarketer's salary. First-generation Legend Coupes are
highly-prized cars, not a lot were built. A mint one can pull more
than a BMW (and certainly a Maxima) of equal vintage. Mine's not
perfect, but I didn't expect it to be when I bought it. I bought it
because the engine was sound and I wanted a car that I could restore
the body and interior to my tastes. I have work to do on it, but
don't mind - it's a labor of love. I own a car that I've wanted since
I could drive, and I'm happy. Sorry if my being happy makes you
upset.
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
> <snip>
> >>
> >> What is that, a Corolla?
> >
> >Better get ya EYEs checked or have someone that know cars tell U what model it is. <grin>
>
> Oh, sorry I insulted your beautiful Maxipad...it's such a stellar
> ride and all, and reflects your wealth and originality. A Maxima just
> screams "Hey, look at me! I'm an individual, and I can afford
> $199/month payments to Riverside!" How about this - try buying a car
> that doesn't look exactly like 15 other models on the road.
Excuse me it's $339 a Month my friend <smile> And it does not L@@k like 15 other autos.
Ivan
===
>
>
> >> Not a bad car at all. My previous car was
> >> close to that shade of purple, always liked the way the sun hits that
> >> shade.
> >
> >Again L@@k again or maybe you'r video card is just built into you'r webtv system Ha Ha Ha
> >The colour is Nissans Rosewood.<smile>
>
> It's fucking purple, sheesh. GM called the color on my last car
> "Hawaiian Orchid", but it was still purple. Are you trying to impress
> me by telling me the "high-falutin'" name Nissan gave purple? Not
> working.
It's ROSEWOOD like the brownish shade of a rose bush stem..Not brown not golden but rosewood
in colour.
Ivan
===
Take a L@@k at my XXHonda http://tinyurl.com/1ilr What colour do U call it?
Ivan
===
>
>
> --cut--
>
> >Funny it seems to have been running since 78 when it was new..And the weight makes it a
> >pretty safe bet you'r little "actor leggen"(tm) better not have a run in with one of
> >them...crunch!!! splat!!! what was that a BUG? Ha Ha Ha
>
> Not a worry, a Chrysler Cordoba is a punch line. It may have been
> running since 1978, but I'll bet that you have spent as much as the
> car cost new just keeping it from being yard art.
It has not needed much over the years..I bet fixing that riceburner is costing U plenty I know
how them Jap. parts R jacked up.
Ivan
===
> Not impressing me
> at all with your Cordoba - could you possibly have picked a car that
> is just behind the Yugo and DeLorean as the butt of jokes?
If it is a joke I sure have not heard it.
Ivan
===
>
>
> >So U think it's only the H.P. that gives a car the performance edge? Why is it the the VQ
> >has been in the years 10 best engines for the past 10 years? Where is the Honda V6 been
> >called a years best engine? Answer it has not happened <grin>
>
> Funny, I don't recall saying the VQ was not a good engine. I was
> talking sheer power-to-weight ratio. The Acura TL outperforms the
> Maxima in all categories
Oh bull it does not out perform the maxima the maxima can run rings around any so called Act
Lleggen(tm) I can even keep up with a Lexus 400 on the open road.
Ivan
===
> , sorry to inform you of this. Not saying the
> Maxima is a bad car - quite the contrary, it's an excellent car.
> However, you can cite all the "Top 10" lists you wish, still won't
> change the fact a Legend (TL) outperforms a Maxima. The Maxima is not
> even in the same category. Take a look at this:
Who reads CG?
Ivan
===
>
>
> http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/summ/index.cfm/id/20533.htm
>
> Notice how the Nissan Maxima is not listed as a comparable car to
> the TL, but Nissan's upscale Infiniti I35 is? That should give you a
> hint as to where Honda markets the Acura marque, and it's obviously
> not to potential Maxima buyers. Never has been Acura's target market
> - the Maxima buyer is targeted by the Accord, not anything in Acura's
> lineup. You're talking apples and oranges.
Hey dimbulb I have all the great stuff in my Maxima sunroof 12 way leather seats sideairbags
CD player auto control heat and AC all at a bargin price by not having the hype that you'r car
is into..
Ivan
====
>
>
> --cut--
>
> >I sure see more Maximas then ackey leggens(tm) being driven. Thank you 4 some needed
> >laughs.
>
> Naturally, not every Okie moron like you can afford an Acura on a
> telemarketer's salary.
Hey I am a supervisor pal I make BIG bucks. <smile> I can afford it. U on the other hand just
look at stats all day.
Ivan
===
> First-generation Legend Coupes are
> highly-prized cars, not a lot were built.
I am sure honda is happy about pulling the plug on a loser.
Ivan
====
> A mint one can pull more
> than a BMW (and certainly a Maxima) of equal vintage.
U gotta B dreaming <grin>
Ivan
====
> Mine's not
> perfect, but I didn't expect it to be when I bought it. I bought it
> because the engine was sound and I wanted a car that I could restore
> the body and interior to my tastes. I have work to do on it, but
> don't mind - it's a labor of love.
I bet U have never twisted a metric wrench in ya short life..Who is going do all that needed
work? damn sure not U Ha Ha Ha U better get 2 Sears and pick out a set of tools <smile>
Ivan
===
> I own a car that I've wanted since
> I could drive, and I'm happy. Sorry if my being happy makes you
> upset.
Not me <smile> I am happy :-)
Ivan
===
>
>
> KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
Well I am sure happy to see you'r getting a quality education from watching the game
shows..I thought all U net thugs just let fat nasty uncle jerry the candyman(tm) straw
feed U all the dirty anti-Oklahoma stuff <smile>
Ivan
===
>
>
> beatnik
Flur A Do'ruinn
--cut--
>Excuse me it's $339 a Month my friend <smile> And it does not L@@k like 15 other autos.
Well excuse the fuck out of me, I'm not up on car payments.
Probably has something to do with having paid for every car I have
owned in the past decade... And it does look like 15 other models -
hate to break it to you, but it's a nondescript 4-door sedal and it's
also nothing special.
--cut--
>It's ROSEWOOD like the brownish shade of a rose bush stem..Not brown not golden but rosewood
>in colour.
It's fucking purple, deal with it.
>Take a L@@k at my XXHonda http://tinyurl.com/1ilr What colour do U call it?
Maroon, moron.
--cut--
>It has not needed much over the years..I bet fixing that riceburner is costing U plenty I know
>how them Jap. parts R jacked up.
Yeah, them Nips really want our cash, ya racist jerk.
--cut--
>If it is a joke I sure have not heard it.
I'm really shocked... Try removing your head from your ass.
--cut--
>Oh bull it does not out perform the maxima the maxima can run rings around any so called Act
>Lleggen(tm) I can even keep up with a Lexus 400 on the open road.
Cite?
>> , sorry to inform you of this. Not saying the
>> Maxima is a bad car - quite the contrary, it's an excellent car.
>> However, you can cite all the "Top 10" lists you wish, still won't
>> change the fact a Legend (TL) outperforms a Maxima. The Maxima is not
>> even in the same category. Take a look at this:
>
>Who reads CG?
Yeah, denial's not a river in Egypt...
--cut--
>Hey dimbulb I have all the great stuff in my Maxima sunroof 12 way leather seats sideairbags
>CD player auto control heat and AC all at a bargin price by not having the hype that you'r car
>is into..
Hold on while I come all over the place...
--cut--
>Hey I am a supervisor pal I make BIG bucks. <smile> I can afford it. U on the other hand just
>look at stats all day.
Hey, dimbulb, I am a supervisor also - BFD. So you make $7.50 an
hour versus $7...wow, I am impressed.
>I am sure honda is happy about pulling the plug on a loser.
Yes, explains why the Legend is still made.
--cut--
>U gotta B dreaming <grin>
U are an idiot...read the history of the Legend and why Honda
created the Acura marque.
--cut--
>I bet U have never twisted a metric wrench in ya short life..Who is going do all that needed
>work? damn sure not U Ha Ha Ha U better get 2 Sears and pick out a set of tools <smile>
What the fuck is this babble? Did I not say it was mechanically
sound and that I was doing cosmetic work on it? And yes, moron, I
have worked on cars and know more than a bit more than you about the
one i own. That's obvious by your idiotic pronoucements that reflect
no knowledge of the Acura marque.
--cut--
>Not me <smile> I am happy :-)
Got a dose of lithium, eh?
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
dimbulb krc..nasty in every way and fashion. <grin> U fit the mold of the Anti-Oklahoma nasty
jerk..I bet U did not even vote yesterday. U dimbulb jerk.."O" my I already said that..
Ivan
====
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
Flur A Do'ruinn
>Did I tell U lately you'r a nasty little fried chickenshit critter? Well let me tell ya U R A nasty
>dimbulb krc..nasty in every way and fashion. <grin> U fit the mold of the Anti-Oklahoma nasty
>jerk..I bet U did not even vote yesterday. U dimbulb jerk.."O" my I already said that..
Wow, what an utterly great comeback.
I'm only "nasty" to you because you are getting exactly what you
deserve. You are a vile and hateful person, so I will address you on
your vile and hateful level. You keep calling me "anti-Oklahoma", yet
you cannot answer even one of the questions about this state's history
that I posted. You are speaking to someone that has been rather
involved with the Oklahoma Historical Society over the years. I once
appeared at the Harn Homestead as Anton Classen (figure out who that
is) with Rebecca Amis, sister of Suzy Amis. Watch "Titanic" and look
for the redhead that is Gloria Stewart's granddaughter - rhat's
Suzy...
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:32:10 GMT, "ivan ~~<00>~~"
> <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> >Did I tell U lately you'r a nasty little fried
> chickenshit critter? Well let me tell ya U R A nasty
> >dimbulb krc..nasty in every way and fashion. <grin> U fit the mold of the Anti-Oklahoma nasty
> >jerk..I bet U did not even vote yesterday. U dimbulb jerk.."O" my I already said that..
>
> Wow, what an utterly great comeback.
>
> I'm only "nasty" to you because you are getting exactly what you
> deserve. You are a vile and hateful person, so I will address you on
> your vile and hateful level. You keep calling me "anti-Oklahoma", yet
> you cannot answer even one of the questions about this state's history
> that I posted. You are speaking to someone that has been rather
> involved with the Oklahoma Historical Society over the years. I once
> appeared at the Harn Homestead as Anton Classen (figure out who that
> is) with Rebecca Amis, sister of Suzy Amis. Watch "Titanic" and look
> for the redhead that is Gloria Stewart's granddaughter - rhat's
> Suzy...
>
> KRC
Well I really don't think going into the States history is going make a hill of "small beans" in
anything that we discuss about Oklahoma in 2002..I just see that everything negative is posted that
happens here..as if the same things did not happen in other States..It's just stupid to keep beating the
drum about how our teachers are so greatly under paid..and our school systems are under funded..Hey down
South things are really bad and have been that way for years..it has to do with money..I still think the
parents should have to pay for their children to attend school..I see a lot of parents living around
here that seem to have the money for smokes and beer..but not any money for their childrens lunchs..I
have yet to see any great ideas coming from any of U Anti-Oklahoma net thugs..Not one idea on
boobooworld(tm) just stupid posts and re-posting of crimes.
Ivan
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beatnik
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>Funny it seems to have been running since 78 when it was new..And the weight makes it a
>pretty safe bet you'r little "actor leggen"(tm) better not have a run in with one of
>them...crunch!!! splat!!! what was that a BUG? Ha Ha Ha
>Ivan
Yea, weight is sure something to brag about. If you want to talk
weight my 49 buick would make easy mush out of that hunk of junk.
beatnik
victoria
with me with my limited speech then i will force them into my way of
thinking in one way or another' so many damn okies have come so close to
buying me a new car because they think force,might and weight will give them
precedence. friends from l.a. even think the drive and shove method used
here is insane,and THEY deal with freeways all the time.--
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>
>> A mint one can pull more
>> than a BMW (and certainly a Maxima) of equal vintage.
>
>U gotta B dreaming <grin>
Uh no, he's not. The price of a 1990 Legend L (you said first
generation Legend right KRC?) is the same as most BMW models of the
same year. The 3 series convertibles and high ends will post about
$1000 more. The 1990 Maxipad is lucky to top $3000 half of a Legend L
Series.
beatnik
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>Did I tell U lately you'r a nasty little fried chickenshit critter? Well let me tell ya U R A nasty
>dimbulb krc..nasty in every way and fashion. <grin> U fit the mold of the Anti-Oklahoma nasty
>jerk..I bet U did not even vote yesterday. U dimbulb jerk.."O" my I already said that..
>Ivan
Wow, it's getting too easy to make him meltdown these days.
beatnik
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>Well I am sure happy to see you'r getting a quality education from watching the game
>shows..I thought all U net thugs just let fat nasty uncle jerry the candyman(tm) straw
>feed U all the dirty anti-Oklahoma stuff <smile>
Since I was evening work for a client I got to enjoy the wonderful
daytime television. Gotta watch something while eating lunch. It's
either the daytime womanized version of TLC, talk shows, or game
shows. As for the Oklahoma stuff, I can just turn on Jerry Springer
for that. There was a episode right up your alley that day called
"I'm pimping my daughter". You would have liked it.
beatnik
beatnik
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>Well I really don't think going into the States history is going make a hill of "small beans" in
>anything that we discuss about Oklahoma in 2002..
Tell that to George Santayana.
>I just see that everything negative is posted that
>happens here..as if the same things did not happen in other States..
We keep telling you but you don't listen. It's not that these things
don't happen elsewhere. It's the frequency that they happen here.
It's the fact that Oklahoma ranks in the top 5 in most of these
terrible things. Not just a few.
>It's just stupid to keep beating the
>drum about how our teachers are so greatly under paid..and our school systems are under funded..Hey down
>South things are really bad and have been that way for years..it has to do with money..I still think the
>parents should have to pay for their children to attend school..
Meaning now that you've had your free public education and are old,
you don't see the need to pay for others. How often do you go down
south. They are not as bad as you might think in many areas. It's
taken many years, but the south has caught up and is passing us by.
If people will start paying attention and realize the importance of an
educated population then I'll put my drum down.
>I see a lot of parents living around
>here that seem to have the money for smokes and beer..but not any money for their childrens lunchs..
Which is part of the problem we keep talking about. Un-educated
morons that keep the cycle going. They didn't ever have a chance why
should their kids? These are the same meth-lab junkies who keep
abusing their kids in an ever rapid frequency.
>I have yet to see any great ideas coming from any of U Anti-Oklahoma net thugs..Not one idea on
>boobooworld(tm) just stupid posts and re-posting of crimes.
Nor have I heard you offer anything constructive. Other than your
usual bigoted hate filled comments.
beatnik
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
You better take a real close L@@K at the Cordoba B4 U make the mistake of ever having a run
in with one...That "bpuck" would never have a chance.
Ivan
===
turbofish
>
> Well I really don't think going into the States history is going make a hill of "small beans" in
> anything that we discuss about Oklahoma in 2002..I just see that everything negative is posted that
> happens here..as if the same things did not happen in other States..It's just stupid to keep beating the
> drum about how our teachers are so greatly under paid..and our school systems are under funded..Hey down
> South things are really bad and have been that way for years..it has to do with money..I still think the
> parents should have to pay for their children to attend school..I see a lot of parents living around
> here that seem to have the money for smokes and beer..but not any money for their childrens lunchs..I
> have yet to see any great ideas coming from any of U Anti-Oklahoma net thugs..Not one idea on
> boobooworld(tm) just stupid posts and re-posting of crimes.
> Ivan
> ===
>
>
No, it is about the misuse of money. We give our kids via tax dollars about
$4,500/year per kid for school. I send my kid to a private school for less and
she gets a much better education. What is the difference?
Sports.
Eample:
While the budget was cut to the bone for public schools, we actually increased
sports dollars for Middle school so they can buy more football uniforms.
--
jeff fisher
victoria
stupidity with false accusasions.what car do you think i drive ivan?seeing
you have never SEEN me.
i told you ivan our discussion was over and i mean it.what of that do you
not understand? again our discusion is over ivanfish(TM). i am merely
replying to OTHERS,not you.your ignorance is below my interest level.
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Flur A Do'ruinn
<planet...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
>On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:38:24 GMT, the usenet entity known as ivan
"Well, she-it, thu bitch gotta ern her keep, don't ya know?" I
think Jerry Springer is wasting his money flying all these people into
Chicago, he just needs to set up a studio in Grove and put up a sign
out front "Cum B on the TV", he'll have three years' worth of shows
from the locals alone.
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
Well if people are swayed by the German mystique and wish to pay for what
ever they think it worth to them thats their sad luck. The BMW is like the
Harleys over priced and being sold to dumbass's thinking that it is also
buying them status.
Ivan
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ivan ~~<00>~~
victoria wrote:
> you have no damn clue what kinf=d of vehichle i drive so why show
> stupidity with false accusasions.what car do you think i drive ivan?
I would guess by what I have read a VW buss..right on?
Ivan
===
> seeing
> you have never SEEN me.
> i told you ivan our discussion was over and i mean it.what of that do you
> not understand?
We never had a "discussion" that I remember.
Ivan
===
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
Seems it's U dimbulbs who R in2 pimping you'r children <smile>
Ivan
===
victoria
on this board ivilly i will be more than happy to respond.
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victoria
in full in cash,the second car i have done so with so there is in my mind no
reason to prove what my car is so i have never posted it's status anywhere.
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ivan ~~<00>~~
victoria wrote:
> i do not own a vw bus. where did you see that post? my car is my own paid
> in full in cash,the second car i have done so with so there is in my mind no
> reason to prove what my car is so i have never posted it's status anywhere.
Well if you are ashamed of the car you drive thats ok with me..I understand some
people having problems.
Ivan
===
>
>
> --
> Care Take! victoria
Flur A Do'ruinn
<planet...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
>On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:59:39 GMT, the usenet entity known as ivan
Yep, "first generation" are those built from 1986-90, "second
generation" is 1991-94, and "third generation" (the TL) is
1995-present. For Ivan's information, here's a Car & Driver
comparison between the 1991 Legend LS and what they considered to be
equivalent cars (these are just the 0-60 tests):
Legend LS - 7.8 seconds
Alfa Romeo 164L - 9.8 seconds
Audi 90 Quattro - 8.2 seconds
BMW 525i - 9.6 seconds
Mercedes 190E - 9.4 seconds
Saab 9000CD Turbo - 6.8 seconds
Volvo 840 Turbo - 8.4 seconds
Notice, Ivanfish(tm), how a respected car magazine like Car & Driver
did not put the Legend up against a Maxipad? Could that possibly be
because it's not considered an equivalent? Notice also that the only
compared car that beat the Legend was the Saab 9000CD Turbo - a
turbo-charged car was the only one tested that beat the
normally-aspirated Legend.
I love it when Ivan melts down and drops his dick in the dirt - all
this information is easily found. You have to be a complete idiot
like Ivan to keep posting this crap without doing any research. One
thing I will give him, though, is that Acuras are Hondas - the door
sills and valve cover on mine both say 'Honda Motor Co." quite clearly
- that was a little quirk on the first-generation Acuras. Only in
North America are the cars called Acuras - in Japan, they are Hondas.
Here's picture from a Japanses brocure of a 1990 Legend Coupe:
http://www.dahliaflower.org/90legcp.jpg
Acura is strictly a marketing scheme - always has been. I just
liked tweaking Ivan about it. In 1986, Honda found that the
perception of the name was that of a quality, but cheap, automaker.
The Legend was already ready to roll as a high-end competitor to BMW
and Mercedes - and in Japan and elsewhere, they were marketed as
Hondas to that level of buyer. But in North America, their studies
indicated that people did not consider Hondas in the same category as
BMW or Mercedes, so Acura was born. Toyota and Nissan ran into the
same thing - so, now we have Lexus and Infiniti as well. The humor is
that the Japanese really just pulled a fast one on North America -
marketing cars under a different name because of our perceptions of
Japanese cars being cheap. It worked, though - as teh resale value on
Acuras attest.
KRC
victoria
lead to big mistakes in life. i bought the car with my own cash money,it
runs and runs nicely.it does not guzzle gas nor does it paollute the
enviroment like those old land shark type vehicles and it is a chicago car
so it is more rustproof than any you could buy off an oklahoma lot.i have
enough money at my disposal,if i were ashamed i would buy a new one. i NEVER
do anything i am ashamed of or regret.one thing you need to learn about me
is that i do not do things i know i will regret.i have the money and
intelligence to do things right and the way i want the first time around.
for you to assume that one is ashamed just because they do not say tells me
alot about you and your regrets and shame in life. those that do not fear
have nothing to hide nor any need to prove anything. my job is high proile-i
am a music manager-promoter. my family is high profile.so it is not like
anything about me is hidden. just i feel no need to prove.i got over that
in grade school.
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Flur A Do'ruinn
<ivanfig...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
>
>
A '49 Roadmaster versus a '78 Cordoba? Don't make me laugh. You
can find half of Pittsburgh in a '49 Roadmaster.
KRC
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>
>You better take a real close L@@K at the Cordoba B4 U make the mistake of ever having a run
>in with one...That "bpuck" would never have a chance.
Thanks for the laugh. Comparing that hunk of junk Cordoba to one of
the original lead sleds.
As for my cars, I never owned a car younger than me until I got into
college. If you want to discuss some real cars then we can talk about
the ones I drove in high school. 49 Buick, 39 Plymouth, 64.5 Mustang,
50 Chevy 3 window truck. I still own the 49 Buick it's only got
60,000 original miles on it. And I guarantee the 34 Ford my dad still
has would destroy most of the rice boys cruising memorial. Of course
we had to rip out the Ford engine. Replaced it with a custom blown
350 Chevy.
As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer just to play around in. Since
I'll be lucky to put 6000k on it in a year I figured I wouldn't waste
a lot of money since I won't drive it a lot. Didn't feel like buying
a base Honda, Nissian, or Yota for the price I could get the Lancer
loaded. I spend 90% of my time in a company vehicle. Looked at a KIA
based on their warranty, but their mpg sucks big time.
beatnik
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>victoria wrote:
>
>> you have no damn clue what kinf=d of vehichle i drive so why show
>> stupidity with false accusasions.what car do you think i drive ivan?
>
>I would guess by what I have read a VW buss..right on?
As usual, you are wrong.
>> seeing
>> you have never SEEN me.
>> i told you ivan our discussion was over and i mean it.what of that do you
>> not understand?
>
>We never had a "discussion" that I remember.
No, you don't have discussions with anyone - having a discussion
requires that you listen and comprehend before replying.
KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
victoria wrote:
> i am and never was ashamed and i never said that.never assume,assume can
> lead to big mistakes in life. i bought the car with my own cash money,it
> runs and runs nicely.it does not guzzle gas nor does it paollute the
> enviroment like those old land shark type vehicles and it is a chicago car
> so it is more rustproof than any you could buy off an oklahoma lot.i have
> enough money at my disposal,if i were ashamed i would buy a new one. i NEVER
> do anything i am ashamed of or regret.one thing you need to learn about me
> is that i do not do things i know i will regret.i have the money and
> intelligence to do things right and the way i want the first time around.
> for you to assume that one is ashamed just because they do not say tells me
> alot about you and your regrets and shame in life. those that do not fear
> have nothing to hide nor any need to prove anything. my job is high proile-i
> am a music manager-promoter.
I think music CDs are over priced the record companies are robbing the public..I
can say the same for movie DVDs.
Ivan
===
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
Have you ever L@@ked closely at the construction of the 78 Cordobas front bumper?
Ivan
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ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:20:29 GMT, the usenet entity known as ivan
> ~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>
> >
> >You better take a real close L@@K at the Cordoba B4 U make the mistake of ever having a run
> >in with one...That "bpuck" would never have a chance.
>
> Thanks for the laugh. Comparing that hunk of junk Cordoba to one of
> the original lead sleds.
>
> As for my cars, I never owned a car younger than me until I got into
> college. If you want to discuss some real cars then we can talk about
> the ones I drove in high school.
I had a 47 Chevy also a 49 Olds later a 66 Olds Cutless. <grin>
Ivan
===
> 49 Buick, 39 Plymouth, 64.5 Mustang,
> 50 Chevy 3 window truck. I still own the 49 Buick it's only got
> 60,000 original miles on it. And I guarantee the 34 Ford my dad still
> has would destroy most of the rice boys cruising memorial. Of course
> we had to rip out the Ford engine. Replaced it with a custom blown
> 350 Chevy.
>
> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer just to play around in. Since
> I'll be lucky to put 6000k on it in a year I figured I wouldn't waste
> a lot of money since I won't drive it a lot. Didn't feel like buying
> a base Honda, Nissian, or Yota for the price I could get the Lancer
> loaded. I spend 90% of my time in a company vehicle. Looked at a KIA
> based on their warranty, but their mpg sucks big time.
>
> beatnik
I like having a low milage car for long trips...I forgot my 82 Bronco.
Ivan
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Uncle Jerry
It's due to the lithium shortage.
With zillions of batteries manufactured daily there simply isn't
enough lithium to go around.
Since batteries are more important than keeping the wackos under
control they've had to cut back on his daily lithium allowance...
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
> .
>
> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer
Just what is a Lancer?
Ivan
===
victoria
need to find a head distribitor of a cd warehouse or possibly the ceo of a
record company itself to discuss that with.
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Uncle Jerry
<i.am.me.as...@the.walrus.com> wrote:
<snip>
> "Well, she-it, thu bitch gotta ern her keep, don't ya know?" I
>think Jerry Springer is wasting his money flying all these people into
>Chicago, he just needs to set up a studio in Grove and put up a sign
>out front "Cum B on the TV", he'll have three years' worth of shows
>from the locals alone.
>
>KRC
The goings on in Delaware County are too shocking and repulsive even
for the 'Springer Crowd'.
Granted the 'standards' for Springer's show are low, damned low but
nothing, not even whale shit at the bottom of the ocean, is lower than
the standards of the Average Okie in Delaware County...
Flur A Do'ruinn
Not really, generally all I see is the rear bumper as it's stalled
in traffic. It's still not as much steel as a '49 Roadmaster.
KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>victoria wrote:
>
>> i am and never was ashamed and i never said that.never assume,assume can
>> lead to big mistakes in life. i bought the car with my own cash money,it
>> runs and runs nicely.it does not guzzle gas nor does it paollute the
>> enviroment like those old land shark type vehicles and it is a chicago car
>> so it is more rustproof than any you could buy off an oklahoma lot.i have
>> enough money at my disposal,if i were ashamed i would buy a new one. i NEVER
>> do anything i am ashamed of or regret.one thing you need to learn about me
>> is that i do not do things i know i will regret.i have the money and
>> intelligence to do things right and the way i want the first time around.
>> for you to assume that one is ashamed just because they do not say tells me
>> alot about you and your regrets and shame in life. those that do not fear
>> have nothing to hide nor any need to prove anything. my job is high proile-i
>> am a music manager-promoter.
>
>I think music CDs are over priced the record companies are robbing the public..I
>can say the same for movie DVDs.
That's all well and good, but that's not what she does. She
represents the artists, not the record companies.
KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
>beatnik wrote:
>
>> .
>>
>> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer
>
>Just what is a Lancer?
Do you ever try to look up something before you post a moronic
question about it?
It's a Mitsubishi.
http://www.mitsucars.com/lancer/
Sheesh...
KRC
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>> have nothing to hide nor any need to prove anything. my job is high proile-i
>> am a music manager-promoter.
>
>I think music CDs are over priced the record companies are robbing the public..I
>can say the same for movie DVDs.
Um, Ivan, managers and promoters are the ones fighting to keep prices
low and get more money in the pocket of the artist. Record companies
are the ones jacking prices of CD's of which artists get pennies on
most of the time.
beatnik
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>I had a 47 Chevy also a 49 Olds later a 66 Olds Cutless. <grin>
Almost forgot our 39 Olds Sedan. I remember taking it to Colorado one
year. I think the backseat of that sucker would hold a Honda CRX. My
wife had an 82 Cutlass in high school. I didn't care for it too much.
She liked it though.
>I like having a low milage car for long trips...I forgot my 82 Bronco.
>Ivan
Do you realize how funny those two statements are when made together.
beatnik
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer
>
>Just what is a Lancer?
>Ivan
Here's a lancer
http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/B_1B_Lancer.html
Or did you mean the car? You've never heard of it before? It was
introduced in 1973 by Mitsubishi as a rally car. The current
Evolution VI is one of the top rally racing vehicles. They canned the
Mirage last year and brought in a scaled down version of the Lancer in
the US last year. At 120HP it's not a racing vehicle. The US version
is fun to drive and had great crash test ratings. Overall I like it,
which is of course what matters. It's basically just an around town
car for me, with a few long trips from time to time.
They say they are going to bring an EVO racing version into the US
soon. But since you won't find me at the track I don't plan to
purchase one.
Maybe in a few years I'll sell it to some poor kid who can put
stickers all over it and call it a racing vehicle.
beatnik
ivan ~~<00>~~
victoria wrote:
> too bad i am not the one to talk to about that.i am a promoter-manager. you
> need to find a head distribitor of a cd warehouse or possibly the ceo of a
> record company itself to discuss that with.
I really don't care to discuss this matter I just like bitching about it in a
public forum. <smile>
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
I thought she was a music peddler..and still do.<smile>
Ivan
===
>
>
> KRC
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
Who is it that is trying to kill off all the ripping of music CDs? I feel if I buy
the CD I should be able to rip a MP3 file for my own use.
Ivan
===
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
Ok I like having a high millage car for short trips. Better?<smile>
Ivan
===
ivan ~~<00>~~
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:33:08 GMT, "ivan ~~<00>~~"
> <ivanfig...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
> Kabin:
>
> >
> >
> >beatnik wrote:
> >
> >> .
> >>
> >> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer
> >
> >Just what is a Lancer?
>
> Do you ever try to look up something before you post a moronic
> question about it?
Not really..And I don't care for missabitchey(tm) products..They are a
real repairmans dream come true Lets say NO Engineering was required..I
don't understand how the stay in the market..I notice they are almost
giving them away in their stupid adds.
Ivan
===
ivan ~~<00>~~
beatnik wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:33:08 GMT, the usenet entity known as ivan
> ~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>
> >> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer
> >
> >Just what is a Lancer?
> >Ivan
>
> Here's a lancer
Was it not Dodge that once had a lancer in their product line?
Ivan
===
>
>
> http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/B_1B_Lancer.html
>
> Or did you mean the car? You've never heard of it before? It was
> introduced in 1973 by Mitsubishi as a rally car. The current
> Evolution VI is one of the top rally racing vehicles. They canned the
> Mirage last year and brought in a scaled down version of the Lancer in
> the US last year. At 120HP it's not a racing vehicle. The US version
> is fun to drive and had great crash test ratings. Overall I like it,
> which is of course what matters. It's basically just an around town
> car for me, with a few long trips from time to time.
>
> They say they are going to bring an EVO racing version into the US
> soon. But since you won't find me at the track I don't plan to
> purchase one.
>
> Maybe in a few years I'll sell it to some poor kid who can put
> stickers all over it and call it a racing vehicle.
>
> beatnik
I hope this p@@r kid has a set of metric tools and a manual covering the
sweet little missabitchey(tm) lapper..Also I hope he can find any machine
shop that will undertake trying to repair some of their Un-Engineered
parts. Thats one Nip brand that really is a loser.
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
Oh, so you know her? I bet you think you know even better than I
do, right? Funny, I didn't see you with her this past weekend. Duh,
Ivan, haven't you figured this out yet? Victoria is my girlfriend -
hello! So, I think I know a lot more about her than you ever will.
KRC
victoria
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agents,musicians,publicists,club promoters,publishing houses and their
various entities and on and on and on...
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ivan ```/___\```
Why make such a big deal of her being you'r gf? And I said I thought...So?
Ivan
===
>
>
> KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
>
>
I acutally agree with you on this issue. I have always been in
favor of sharing music, as it does benefit the artists. In the liner
notes of ever recording I have produced for public sale, I have always
stated that copying the tape or CD for non-profit use is encouraged.
I was pretty pissed when Metallica came out against Napster,
considering that if any popular band benefitted from music trading, it
was Metallica. The were selling out arenas before having a
top-selling album and the reason why was fans sharing tapes with
others. The built their entire following prior to 1991 by word of
mouth. They were also setting aside parts of the concerts for those
who wanted to tape the shows.
Then they got a platnium album and became greedy jerks. As a
musician myself, I have no issues with someone wanting to rip a CD
from MP3's of my work. I say "more power to you" - as long as you
don't try to make money from it, burn all you want. I have some of
Dahlia's stuff online and available for download for that very reason.
And I will continue to do it the future.
And yes, Ivan, I am a professional musician, computers and such are
my "day job". I doubt you'd like what I do, but I've had a level of
success at it.
KRC
Flur A Do'ruinn
<ivanfight...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
My point was to illustrate how you know nothing about her and your
pronoucements are those of an idiot making stabs in the dark.
KRC
ivan ```/___\```
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:29:58 GMT, ivan ```/___\\```
> <ivanfight...@hotmail.com> s
> >
I feel this is like you and what you think you know about me. <smile>
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
<ivanfight...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
--cut--
>I feel this is like you and what you think you know about me. <smile>
Not the point. I have never claimed to know anything about you that
is not on the public record. The reality is that I do know a few
things about you that are not public knowledge, but I won't reveal
them due to non-disclosure agreements that I have signed.
That aside, why do you feel that anyone wants to know anything about
you? You're of no concern to anyone beyond a simple web search - and
it's funny how just that one simple thing turns a lot of info about
you.
KRC
ivan ```/___\```
Flur A Do'ruinn wrote:
Well if you feel it's real Info. then I guess it is right?
Ivan
===
beatnik
~~<00>~~ typed the following proverb:
>Was it not Dodge that once had a lancer in their product line?
Yes they did.
>I hope this p@@r kid has a set of metric tools and a manual covering the
>sweet little missabitchey(tm) lapper..Also I hope he can find any machine
>shop that will undertake trying to repair some of their Un-Engineered
>parts. Thats one Nip brand that really is a loser.
See this is why everyone agrees that you are an Okie asshole. You
want to start a fight about everything. If it's not the brand you own
it isn't shit. And again you show your usual racism with the Nip
comments yet you own a Nissan and A Honda.
You didn't even know what a Lancer was but you seem to know everything
about it. Please tell me in all your vast knowledge what I should
have bought so I can be cool like you. I guess I should have bought
the Sentra with 6 more HP and every standard feature I have is
optional. By the time you get the extras you have spent more for a
plain looking econo car.
As we keep saying you are incapable of rational discussion.
beatnik
Flur A Do'ruinn
So the State of Oklahoma is wrong? The databases of companies that
you chose to do business with and provide information to are wrong?
Come on, Hersh, your little game is very childish, and you cannot win
it because you know I have the hookup about you - you're just trying
to deny it, hoping others will believe you.
KRC
victoria
facts.
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"ivan ```/___\```" <ivanfight...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Me
<snip>
> As for my current car, a 2003 Lancer just to play around in. Since
> I'll be lucky to put 6000k on it in a year I figured I wouldn't waste
> a lot of money since I won't drive it a lot. Didn't feel like buying
> a base Honda, Nissian, or Yota for the price I could get the Lancer
> loaded. I spend 90% of my time in a company vehicle. Looked at a KIA
> based on their warranty, but their mpg sucks big time.
>
> beatnik
Really? That's kind of surprising. KIAs look small and I figured their engines would be
small enough to allow high mileage. I always thought that had to be part of the appeal of
KIAs.
Dustin
ivan ```/___\```
I sure know a lot of people who want everything for free..I have had people I worked
with get bent out of shape because I would not let them copy my software..I buy mine why
should they steal from the people I have bought from? same with my music CDs I just tell
them it's not someting I want to do. I remember people coming around wanting me to go in
on a 33-1/3 then everyone would copy to tape..I just thought I could afford to buy my
own master.
Ivan
===
Flur A Do'ruinn
<ivanfight...@hotmail.com> scribbled on the wall of the Keating
Kabin:
But you aren't an artist, you are a consumer. I have no problems
with my work being shared amongst fans, as long as no money is being
made from it. This is a decision I made solely as an artist, because
I have every right to sue anyone who distributes my work without my
permission regardless of whether or not they make any money from it.
I choose to allow free sharing, I don't have to.
I applaud your stance, even though I'm pretty sure there will never
be a Merrywidow CD in your collection :-)
KRC
Me
<snip>
> >It was built in some attempt to try keeping up with Nissans Maxima but it fell short.
>
> Um, no. In 1986, the Maxima was not the performance car it is
> today. The person who got me started on the Legend Coupes was a
> lawyer here in OKC that had both a Legend and a Maxima - no
> comparison. The Maxima is a nice car, but back then, it wasn't a
> luxury performance car.
That's correct. It was not, nor is it now sold as a luxury performance car. It was sold
as "the 4-door sports car." Now it's just marketed as a sporty sedan to 20 and 30
somethings.
> Today, it's a different story - and modern
> Acuras still out-perform the Maxima. (Checked the stats on the 260-hp
> 3.2 TL Type-S vs. the VQ-engined Maximas at 222-hp?)
The Maxima has 255 hp. I've never read any direct comparison between the two, but I'm
sure the Maxima will outperform the 3.2 TL......that's if "perform" is considered what's
fastest off the line (but who the hell wants to drag race Maximas and TLs?). The 3.2 TL
is a much more refined vehicle. Maximas have a lot of road noise and a fairly rough ride
(similar to a sports car) but the Acura offers similar power with an exremely quiet and
smooth ride. As you said, they aren't even in the same category.
> You're implying
> that the Legend was a failure, if so - why is it still being made?
> That's right, Mr. Car Boy, it's still made. I don't know why, but
> some genius at Acura decided to market it in the U.S. as the "TL", in
> Japan and elsewhere, it's still called the Legend. Rumor has is that
> "TL" actually stand for "The Legend." Acura has never said one way or
> another what "TL" means, which probably fuels the rumors. At any
> rate, the TL is a Legend, so the car that "fell short" of the Maxima
> is still being made - and marketed to people who wouldn't stoop down
> to buying a Maxima. Completely different category of car - people who
> buy Acura Legends are generally not those also considering a Maxima -
> an Infiniti, yes, but not a pedestrian Maxima.
Yep. And I'd take almost any Acura vehicle over any Infiniti vehicle in a heartbeat
(except for their SUV and the new G35 coupe.) Don't get me wrong. I've owned 4 Nissans
and they are fantastic vehicles, and the Infiniti line is excellent. But the Honda V-6 is
the best V-6 in the world. Nissan's V-6 is a close 2nd, but it's just not quite as smooth
running as the Honda. And did I mention I own a Nissan with a V-6?
http://home.swbell.net/dustin71/zx.jpg
http://home.swbell.net/dustin71/zx2.jpg
http://home.swbell.net/dustin71/zx3.jpg
I think I mentioned it before, but I just wanted to make sure. ;)
> Oh, and BTW, Mr. Car
> Boy, the Honda engines that have always powered Acuras are
> stepped-down derivatives of those used in racing - but I'm sure you
> knew that, considering that you say that the Legend "fell short" of
> the Maxima - bwahahahahaha! Thanks, I needed a good laugh on this
> otherwise boring day.
>
> KRC
That is pretty funny. Of course my car eats Maximas for snacks.
Dustin
Flur A Do'ruinn
the wall of the Keating Kabin:
>"Flur A Do'ruinn" <i.am.me.as...@the.walrus.com> wrote in message
>news:vj9hou0vt0g4t3s8f...@4ax.com...
><snip>
>
>> >It was built in some attempt to try keeping up with Nissans Maxima but it fell short.
>>
>> Um, no. In 1986, the Maxima was not the performance car it is
>> today. The person who got me started on the Legend Coupes was a
>> lawyer here in OKC that had both a Legend and a Maxima - no
>> comparison. The Maxima is a nice car, but back then, it wasn't a
>> luxury performance car.
>
>That's correct. It was not, nor is it now sold as a luxury performance car. It was sold
>as "the 4-door sports car." Now it's just marketed as a sporty sedan to 20 and 30
>somethings.
>
>> Today, it's a different story - and modern
>> Acuras still out-perform the Maxima. (Checked the stats on the 260-hp
>> 3.2 TL Type-S vs. the VQ-engined Maximas at 222-hp?)
>
>The Maxima has 255 hp. I've never read any direct comparison between the two, but I'm
>sure the Maxima will outperform the 3.2 TL......that's if "perform" is considered what's
>fastest off the line (but who the hell wants to drag race Maximas and TLs?).
Good question, I'd still like to know what the hell that guy on
Memorial was thinking unless he really wanted to see what the back of
a Legend looks like, because I just downshifted and left him in the
dust without really pouring it on.
>The 3.2 TL is a much more refined vehicle. Maximas have a lot of road noise and a fairly rough ride
>(similar to a sports car) but the Acura offers similar power with an exremely quiet and
>smooth ride. As you said, they aren't even in the same category.
Nope the Honda equivalent to the Maxima is the Accord - not anything
under the Acura marque.
--cut--
>That is pretty funny. Of course my car eats Maximas for snacks.
Yes, but what does it do to Cordobas?
Can you friggin' believe Ivan actually admitted to owning such a
worthless hunk of steel, and is proud of it?
KRC
Uncle Jerry
<i.am.me.as...@the.walrus.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Can you friggin' believe Ivan actually admitted to owning such a
>worthless hunk of steel, and is proud of it?
>
>KRC
Well, yeah.
After all ya' gotta' remember that he considers Oklahoma the "Promised
Land" as foretold in Goat Blower Mythology"(tm).
Me
Yeah, but he had 2 extra doors. ;)
> >The 3.2 TL is a much more refined vehicle. Maximas have a lot of road noise and a
fairly rough ride
> >(similar to a sports car) but the Acura offers similar power with an exremely quiet and
> >smooth ride. As you said, they aren't even in the same category.
>
> Nope the Honda equivalent to the Maxima is the Accord - not anything
> under the Acura marque.
I'd consider the Maxima somwhere in between. The Accord is generally regarded as an
efficient family sedan. The Acura 3.2 TL is a luxury performance sedan. The Maxima is
sortof a family sport sedan. Comparing the Accord to the Maxima is sortof like comparing
the Maxima to the Acura. I'd compare the Accord to the Altima more than the Maxima. I
think the Maxima is best compared to Toyota's Camry than any other vehicle. Acura TLs are
best compared against Infinitis and Lexus's rather than Nissans or Toyotas.
> --cut--
>
> >That is pretty funny. Of course my car eats Maximas for snacks.
>
> Yes, but what does it do to Cordobas?
Well, considering I can outrun it due to my 419 lb/ft of torque and 356 hp, out maneuver
it due to the 4-wheel steering, out brake it due to the performance brakes, and probably
better survive a crash with it due to the drivers side airbag and rigid passenger
compartment, I'd have to say it bends Cordobas over and screws them. Not that there's
anything wrong with that.
> Can you friggin' believe Ivan actually admitted to owning such a
> worthless hunk of steel, and is proud of it?
>
> KRC
Actually I can believe that. He's also proud that his wife had to get a protective order,
that he placed his wife's sister (Carol Wells) in harms way by posting her name, address
and phone number in perverted newsgroups, and he's proud that his daughters will someday
get to read all of these posts. He gets some kind of perverse pleasure knowing that his
daughters will get to see what kind of horrible man their father really was. That's just
the type of guy Ivan is though.
Dustin
beatnik
the following proverb:
Well the Rio is 25-30. But I didn't want something that looked and
priced like a Geo. The Spectra is only 22-30. The Optima is only
20-27. The warranty is nice but they just don't really look all that
great. I thought the same thing as you. I was thinking they would be
at least 28 to 30 city.
Oh, and while you are here Dustin. Have you seen the 350 yet? There
was one on I-44 the other day. It was a pretty ugly rust looking
color but still pretty cool looking.
beatnik
Uncle Jerry
<snip>
>Actually I can believe that. He's also proud that his wife had to get a protective order,
>that he placed his wife's sister (Carol Wells) in harms way by posting her name, address
>and phone number in perverted newsgroups, and he's proud that his daughters will someday
>get to read all of these posts. He gets some kind of perverse pleasure knowing that his
>daughters will get to see what kind of horrible man their father really was. That's just
>the type of guy Ivan is though.
>
>
>Dustin
>
Reckon he might be one of the 'fondling' fathers of Delaware County
fame?
It sure seems as if that's a possibility.
Me
<snip>
> Oh, and while you are here Dustin. Have you seen the 350 yet? There
> was one on I-44 the other day. It was a pretty ugly rust looking
> color but still pretty cool looking.
>
>
> beatnik
Yep. I saw one at Jackie Cooper. Was the one you saw a dark color, or more like a gold
color? I saw the "gold" (It's actually called Le Mans Sunset). You're right, it ain't
the prettiest color (the darker color is called Brickyard). They told me they'd sell it
to me at sticker. I told him "no thanks, mine is prettier." It is a sharp looking car
though. I'd like to see one in silver or black. They'll move too. 0 to 60 in something
like 5.4 seconds. At least they are half way affordable again. I have the window sticker
from my car and it was $37K back in 1991. The 350 I saw was $34K.
Dustin