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[TNG] Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Sub Rosa"

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Chris Hughes

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In article <2j1g8i$p...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, tly...@cco.caltech.edu
(Timothy W. Lynch) wrote:
>
> Apparently, he's the spiritual equivalent of being incredibly good in bed.
> This makes Bev compromise her beliefs, turn her back on everyone and
> everything she holds dear, and shrug off Quint's murder after a few minutes
> of angst.
>
> Am I the only one that finds the presentation far too close to "all a woman
> needs is a good lay to be controllable" for anyone's comfort?

No. I also hated it. Although, Bev must be pretty deprived by now. In fact,
a lot of the crew must be deprived. Maybe they visit the holodeck a lot.
The "masturbation-type" scene right before Picard entered the house was
wild.

> It also made very little sense. What alerted Bev to this? Seeing her
> grandmother's body taken over by Ronin? If she's already managed to convince
> herself that Ronin's truly a ghost, why is possession such an odd leap to
> make? Was it just the final straw? Perhaps -- but very little about that
> scene rang true.

I thought it was because Ronin almost killed Picard. She confronts the
problem at that point and realizes her "duty" to Picard as 1) a patient
and 2) her friend-lover. They could of played this up more and had her
realize that she really should be involved sexually with Picard.

> The one scene that I found most appealing was the "fog on the bridge" scene.
> While there wasn't much point to it, it was a delightful bit of weirdness
> that had me chuckling. "It just kind of rolled in on us, sir." I like it.

Agree.

> -- Picard tells Maturin that he's "obviously not _Scotch_ yourself." Damn
> straight. Scotch is a liquor. *Scottish* or *Scots* is the adjective.
> Picard, and _Stewart_ for that matter, should have known better.

Agree. As a Brit myself, I cringed and threw a Koosh at the TV.


Chris Hughes
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Timothy W. Lynch

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WARNING: This post contains well-hidden spoilers for "Sub Rosa", the latest
offering from TNG. Those who wish not to be exposed to spoilers (even in
confidence) should stay well clear.

In brief: a few moments here and there, but not nearly enough to keep me
from wondering why this show was made.

In addition, I have a fairly serious issue with authors' credit to bring up
where "Sub Rosa" is concerned. But first, as always ... a synopsis:

The Enterprise is at a colony on Caldos Four, for the funeral of Beverly
Crusher's grandmother, Felisa Howard. At the funeral, Bev is surprised to
see a youngish-looking man place a flower on her grave. She discusses the
personal nature of the gesture with Deanna, and then adjourns back to her
grandmother's home. Meanwhile, Picard agrees to Governor Maturin's request
to stick around and help with the weather control units, in exchange for a
tour of the colony, which has managed to recreate the feel of Scotland very
successfully.

At the house, Beverly goes through "Nana's" possessions, quickly finding a
lit candle meant to symbolize "the enduring Howard spirit". Deanna leaves
after offering some condolences, and Bev broods, eventually finding some
journals of her grandmother's and taking them upstairs to read. This is
interrupted, however, when Ned Quint, a friend of Felisa's, comes in the
house and blows out the candle -- and ordering Bev in no uncertain terms
never to light it again. She throws him out, and he disclaims all
responsibility for whatever future she brings on herself.

That evening, after Beverly has read her grandmother's repeated reference to
her lover "Ronin", a man in his mid-thirties that Bev knew nothing about, the
candle (now in her quarters) sputters briefly, and the sheets around Beverly
begin to move. She responds as if being caresses, then hears a voice calling
her name. She wakes, shocked. She talks to Deanna about the incident (or
rather, "the dream", as that is what she believes it to be), and wonders if
the dreams will continue.

At the cemetery later, Bev finds Quint and apologizes to him for her behavior
the previous day. He accepts the apology, but says he'll never again enter
the Howard home, and that she shouldn't either -- the house, he says, is
haunted by a ghost who lives in the candle, and his inability to enter it
right now is making him cause the storms now forming over the colony.
Beverly is skeptical -- after all, the malfunctioning weather grid is causing
the storms -- but he is adamant that the spirit is responsible. As the storm
begins to pour down, Beverly returns to the house -- but when she enters, she
finds flowers strewn everywhere...

The door closes behind her, and Beverly wanders the house, seeming very
unnerved. Eventually, Ronin speaks to her invisibly, even taking control of
her body. He tells her that he's a spirit, born in 17th-century Scotland,
and that he has been with Howard women for centuries. Bev doesn't
understand, but Ronin proves irresistible. Later, Deanna drops by Bev's
quarters on the Enterprise and talks to her about her new-found "friend",
urging her not to mistake shared grief for love, but Bev assures her that at
the moment, it's not love -- "I'm just intrigued."

The situation gets stranger, both on the Enterprise and on the planet. Data
and Geordi go down to the planet to find a way to stop the power transfer
they had earlier started to stabilize the weather system, but instead find
Quint trying desperately to disconnect primary power to the system. He tells
them to keep back, saying that a mysterious "he" is trying to kill them all
-- but suddenly, sparks fly from the console he is near, and Quint falls to
the ground, dead.

Data and Geordi assume a plasma discharge killed him, but Bev disagrees,
saying that she's found traces of anaphasic energy in his body. She sends
the body to the Enterprise for testing, and returns to the house to confront
Ronin. Ronin admits causing Quint's death, but says there are more important
things to talk about. He materializes, *physically*, and tells her that he
needs her help: he needs her to light the candle, which he requires to stay
strong. He will travel up the power beam from the Enterprise and join her on
the ship. Bev quickly returns to the ship and lights the candle, and in
short order Ronin is there, promising her that they'll be together always,
"and you will feel love as you never felt it before." He turns himself to
mist and envelops her, and she responds with abandon.

Shortly thereafter, Picard rushes into the transporter room to find Beverly,
having resigned her commission, ready to beam down to the planet for good!
He tries to talk her out of it, but she is adamant, and leaves. After he
talks to Deanna about Ronin's possible influence, he decides to go down and
meet Ronin for himself, as Geordi and Data go down to the planet to search
for another anaphasic signature, which is quickly shown to be in the
cemetery, very near Felisa Howard's grave.

Picard comes to the Howard home, and after knocking without an answer, enters
to find Beverly in the throes of passion, having just merged with Ronin. She
collects herself and tries to get Picard to leave, telling him "jealousy
doesn't suit you, Jean-Luc." Picard, however, is adamant, telling her that
this situation is simply not the Beverly he knows, and asking why she seems
to be the only one who has ever seen Ronin? Ronin then appears, walking down
the stairs, and tells Picard to leave. He, however, will not, instead asking
hard questions about Ronin's origins and challenging his claim to be a
colonist.

After Picard gives Geordi and Data permission to exhume Felisa's body, Ronin
disappears in anger. Picard tries to get Beverly to come with him, but is
shocked by anaphasic energy and falls to the ground in pain. Beverly, forced
to choose, stays with Picard to help him as Ronin leaves to stop Data and
Geordi. She stabilizes Picard's condition, then goes to the cemetery to stop
Ronin. She arrives in time to see him take over Felisa's body and shock both
Geordi and Data into unconsciousness, and screams at him to stop what he is
doing. She accuses him of being an "anaphasic lifeform", using her body and
those of Howard women through the centuries to maintain his stability. He
grants that, but insists that he loved them all. He tells her to lay down
the candle, which she does -- but she then phasers it, leaving Ronin nowhere
to go. With the only option being to hide in Beverly herself, Ronin leaps
for her, but Bev phasers him as well, dispersing his energy forever.
Everyone recovers, but Beverly tells Deanna later that she feels some sense
of disappointment. Having read her grandmother's journals, she now knows
that "whatever else he may have done ... he made her very happy."

----------

Well, that takes care of that. Now for the commentary.

First and foremost, I have to make a comment on the ... well, let's say the
_familiarity_ of this particular episode. I don't know if you've read Anne
Rice's _The Witching Hour_ [if not, I recommend it], but the number of
similarities between that novel and the first two-thirds or so of "Sub Rosa"
are astonishing, both in number and in degree.

Basically, change the name "Ronin" to "Lasher", "Howard" to "Mayfair",
"anaphasic lifeform" to "demon", the candle to an emerald pendant, and a few
other details, and "Sub Rosa" *is* a watered-down version of _The Witching
Hour_. (I haven't read the sequel to TWH, _Lasher_, yet, but my
understanding from people who have is that it tends to cover the remainder of
this episode. Sigh.)

My hope is that one of two things are true: either

1) Anne Rice was consulted before this show was produced and gave her
blessing. In fact, given that there's a hidden "Based upon material by"
credit to Jeanna F. Gallo, perhaps that _is_ Rice under a pseudonym.

or

2) Whoever bought the material from Ms. Gallo didn't realize the
similarities between this show and Rice's novel.

Those are the only two possibilities that would make me feel even remotely
good about the similarities that are all too obvious -- because the other two
conclusions are either so farfetched as to be unbelievable (i.e. that these
were completely independent), or rather damning towards a group of people
that have earned my respect over the years. I'm sure I'm not the only one to
have noticed the parallels -- and I hope as fervently as I can that more
information on this comes to the surface as quickly as possible.

Anyway, that particular point had to be made. The similarities aside, what
did I think of "Sub Rosa"? Well ... I've seen better, *especially* from the
team of Braga on script and Frakes directing. I mean, this is the same pair
that gave us "Cause and Effect" and was partly responsible for "Reunion",
both high up on my list of favorites -- so what happened here?

One of the things I had the most trouble with (aside from the ending, which
I'll get to later) was the characterization of Beverly once Ronin started
taking an active role. We have seen Bev face all sorts of things in her
years, and even when she gets convinced she's going crazy (a la "Remember
Me"), she has been believable and a fairly strong individual. Here, though,
what did we see? Ronin is said to have some incredible influence over the
Howard women, but the only time it's tested (towards the end), Bev wins. So
what does this influence come down to, that apparently makes a normally
intelligent person act and talk (down to the *voice* at times) like a
five-year-old?

Apparently, he's the spiritual equivalent of being incredibly good in bed.
This makes Bev compromise her beliefs, turn her back on everyone and
everything she holds dear, and shrug off Quint's murder after a few minutes
of angst.

Am I the only one that finds the presentation far too close to "all a woman
needs is a good lay to be controllable" for anyone's comfort?

The other major problem I had with "Sub Rosa" was the ending. For all the
objections I've raised so far, "Sub Rosa" did manage to have a nicely creepy
feel to it for much of the early part of the show. However, the last five
minutes, to be blunt, were awful. Technobabble is bad enough; having people
screaming incoherently is usually bad enough without strongly extenuating
circumstances (such as the Riker from the Borg-universe in "Parallels").
Having someone screaming technobabble incoherently, therefore, is pretty high
up on my list of unpleasant things to watch.

It also made very little sense. What alerted Bev to this? Seeing her
grandmother's body taken over by Ronin? If she's already managed to convince
herself that Ronin's truly a ghost, why is possession such an odd leap to
make? Was it just the final straw? Perhaps -- but very little about that
scene rang true.

Very little about the *show* rang true, when it comes down to it. Ned Quint
certainly didn't, thanks mostly to a Scottish accent so damned thick as to
almost be parody. Bev's reactions didn't after the first ten minutes of the
show. Some of Picard's actions didn't; some of Deanna's didn't either. I'm
sorry, but I found very little to like here.

Lest I sound like this was absolutely without merit, though, let me note a
few pluses. As I said, bits of the show *did* feel somewhat creepy. While
Ronin's voice and attitude didn't do too much for me, having Bev come home
and suddenly find flowers everywhere managed to induce at least the
beginnings of a shiver. Perhaps "creepy" is the wrong word for it, as much
of the show didn't really do that -- what it did was establish the right
atmosphere. That I'd tend to credit mostly to Frakes, who's been good at
establishing the right tone to a show for quite a while.

The one scene that I found most appealing was the "fog on the bridge" scene.
While there wasn't much point to it, it was a delightful bit of weirdness
that had me chuckling. "It just kind of rolled in on us, sir." I like it.

However, that's about it to the major pluses of "Sub Rosa". Even without the
question of the story's origins, it's a fairly bad show. With that question
as yet unanswered, it's the first show in a long while that I'm finding it
hard to not ... well, for want of a better word, not *condemn*. This is a
show for completists (or for those who want to watch Gates McFadden writhe in
a rather attractive manner, which I'll admit I didn't exactly turn away from
:-) ), but that's about as far as I'm prepared to go.

So, a few short notes:

-- One other plus to the show was the title. "Sub Rosa", which literally
means "under the rose", is a phrase that indicates something private or
secretive, which the Howards' lives with Ronin surely were. I don't know who
came up with the title, but it's a nice touch.

-- Picard tells Maturin that he's "obviously not _Scotch_ yourself." Damn
straight. Scotch is a liquor. *Scottish* or *Scots* is the adjective.
Picard, and _Stewart_ for that matter, should have known better.

-- Cute double-entendre alert: Right after Bev has told Picard about her
grandmother's affairs with Ronin, Picard tells her that they'll be sticking
around long enough for her to put her grandmother's _affairs_ in order. It's
not the greatest pun in the world, but it's not bad -- and I'm a little
surprised they didn't make it more obvious. :-)

-- Felisa was clearly Bev's _maternal_ grandmother, based on the entire
premise of the show. Given that Howard was also Bev's maiden name, that
implies that Bev's parents took her mother's name. Ver-ry interesting...

-- Another plus: music. Much of the atmosphere and creepiness of the early
parts of the show can probably be credited to Jay Chattaway. While I can't
think of any specific musical moment that got to me, I definitely remember
the music as helping to establish the mood.

That's about it. We've got a dozen episodes of TNG to go -- and with
"Homeward" and "Sub Rosa" being the last two, I'm frankly worried. I don't
want to remember TNG on notes like this -- I'd rather remember something like
"Parallels" or "The Pegasus". Where are they?

So, to sum up:

Plot: 40 minutes of a horror tale not suited for Trek, followed by 5 minutes
of Technobabble from Hell. Ugh.
Plot Handling: The only plus I can give, and that slight. A good mood piece
much of the time.
Characterization: Awful. I don't like what this did to Bev, and everyone
else has seen better days, too.

OVERALL: 2.5. A serious disappointment; it can only get better from here...

NEXT WEEK:

A look at the lower levels of the rank structure...

Tim Lynch (Harvard-Westlake School, Science Dept.)
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Whitney Miller

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>> -- Picard tells Maturin that he's "obviously not _Scotch_ yourself." Damn
>> straight. Scotch is a liquor. *Scottish* or *Scots* is the adjective.
>> Picard, and _Stewart_ for that matter, should have known better.
>
>
>Interesting. I -clearly- heard Scots.
>
>Perhaps one of us needs a new hearing aid :-).
>
He said Scotch -- I noticed this right away.


Joe Fleming

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Another loose end was created concerning Bev's eye color. Bev said that all
Howard women had green eyes except for her and her mother. It also seems that
her mother died when Bev was young. Since the eye color comes with Ronan's
infiltration, did he kill off Bev's mother because she resisted his advances
or threatened to expose him?

Jennifer J McGee-1

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In article <2j1g8i$p...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,

Timothy W. Lynch <tly...@juliet.caltech.edu> wrote:
>WARNING: This post contains well-hidden spoilers for "Sub Rosa", the latest
>offering from TNG. Those who wish not to be exposed to spoilers (even in
>confidence) should stay well clear.
>
>The door closes behind her, and Beverly wanders the house, seeming very
>unnerved. Eventually, Ronin speaks to her invisibly, even taking control of
>her body. He tells her that he's a spirit, born in 17th-century Scotland,
>and that he has been with Howard women for centuries. Bev doesn't
>understand, but Ronin proves irresistible. Later, Deanna drops by Bev's
>quarters on the Enterprise and talks to her about her new-found "friend",
>urging her not to mistake shared grief for love, but Bev assures her that at
>the moment, it's not love -- "I'm just intrigued."

>
[snip]

>
>One of the things I had the most trouble with (aside from the ending, which
>I'll get to later) was the characterization of Beverly once Ronin started
>taking an active role. We have seen Bev face all sorts of things in her
>years, and even when she gets convinced she's going crazy (a la "Remember
>Me"), she has been believable and a fairly strong individual. Here, though,
>what did we see? Ronin is said to have some incredible influence over the
>Howard women, but the only time it's tested (towards the end), Bev wins. So
>what does this influence come down to, that apparently makes a normally
>intelligent person act and talk (down to the *voice* at times) like a
>five-year-old?
>
>Apparently, he's the spiritual equivalent of being incredibly good in bed.
>This makes Bev compromise her beliefs, turn her back on everyone and
>everything she holds dear, and shrug off Quint's murder after a few minutes
>of angst.
>
>Am I the only one that finds the presentation far too close to "all a woman
>needs is a good lay to be controllable" for anyone's comfort?
>

NO. This really bothered me, more and more so after the episode
was over. Basically, this episode seemed like a romanticized rape fantasy
to me. I mean, in that scene you describe in the cottage, Ronin is
basically making Beverly feel sexual pleasure against her will: she keeps
asking him to stop and let her think, and he won't let up. So at the end
of the sequence, she sweeps the flowers off the table and yells, "STOP
IT!" Cut to commercial. What happens in that hiatus is left open to
interpretation, but it's clear Ronin didn't take no for an answer.
When we return, is Beverly even the least bit peturbed that this
has happened? No, she's radiant! She's glowing, calm, serene. It
definitely seems that all she needed was a good...
It just really bothered me that Beverly is portrayed as a rape victim
who discovered she liked it. I know we can argue about whether this was
rape or seduction, but she seems so obviously unwilling in that first
scene that her "conversion" rings terribly false. I found the episode
distasteful for this and other reasons.

Jen

Karen A. Droms

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Feb 9, 1994, 6:44:00 AM2/9/94
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In article <fleming.8...@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>, fle...@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM

My impression was the women's eye color did not change until AFTER they were
infillitrated by Ronin. Also, the next generation was not involved until
the prior one died; Bev's mother never met Ronin because HER mother (Bev's
grandmother) was still alive when Bev's mother died. Therefore, her eyes
never turned green. I think Beverly's did when she was infillitrated by
Ronin (hence Picard's comment about changing her eye color), but I
couldn't tell the exact color.

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Ebeth Jones

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In article <CKv6y...@fc.hp.com> cun...@fc.hp.com (Ross Cunniff) writes:

>Timothy W. Lynch (tly...@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
>
>> -- Picard tells Maturin that he's "obviously not _Scotch_ yourself." Damn
>> straight. Scotch is a liquor. *Scottish* or *Scots* is the adjective.
>> Picard, and _Stewart_ for that matter, should have known better.
>
>Ahh, *I* heard the word 'Scots' myself. Of course, I had a hard time
>keeping a straight face during this time, since I had just watched
>Stewart's stint on Saturday Night Live the night before. "Welcome to
>All Things Scottish. If it's na Scottish, it's CRAP!".
>

Nope - he definitely said Scotch. As a scottish friend of mine has
vehemently pointed out over and over "people from Scottland are Scottish-
Scotch is a drink" so I couldn't help but notice Picard's "Scotch"
comment.

--
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Karen A. Droms

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In article <94040.064...@psuvm.psu.edu>, Karen A. Droms

<KAD...@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>In article <fleming.8...@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>, fle...@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM
>(Joe Fleming) says:
>>
>>Another loose end was created concerning Bev's eye color. Bev said that all
>>Howard women had green eyes except for her and her mother. It also seems
>that
>>her mother died when Bev was young. Since the eye color comes with Ronan's
>>infiltration, did he kill off Bev's mother because she resisted his advances
>>or threatened to expose him?
>
>My impression was the women's eye color did not change until AFTER they were
>infillitrated by Ronin. Also, the next generation was not involved until
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
infiltrated -- remind me not to post before me first cup of hot chocolate
in the morning

>the prior one died; Bev's mother never met Ronin because HER mother (Bev's
>grandmother) was still alive when Bev's mother died. Therefore, her eyes
>never turned green. I think Beverly's did when she was infillitrated by

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But at least I was consistent -- infiltrated

:crp:

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Feb 9, 1994, 2:17:37 PM2/9/94
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Evidently i am in the distinct minority here. i thought that the espisode was
a cute atmosphere piece, EXCEPT for the last, awful,disgusting,stupid 9 minutes.
be it as it may, there was one point that i just didn't get:
what was the deal with the candle and how did it work?

c...@uchicago.edu

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Feb 10, 1994, 4:47:42 PM2/10/94
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I thought "Sub Rosa" was a wonderful episode, of course with the usual
necessary suspension of disbelief which many people apparently seem to
forget all too often. Again, a mainly psychological episode, with intense
implications for the exploration of *inner space* instead of the usual
Outer space ("The Dark Page" and virtually all of DS9 episodes are also
examples of this welcome development of inner-space exploration for the
mature audience, instead of cowboy Borg shootouts for the teenage boys :-).


It's like, I always dug Ray Bradbury more than Robert Heinlein, as a kid
reading science fiction in the 1960's, because Heinlein's characters were
wooden while Bradbury got inside people's heads. But there was a running
battle among my kid friends between the Heinlein space cowboy heads and the
Bradbury freakout heads, we (B-heads) were the ones who had normal friends
occasionally, grew up, used drugs, got laid, etc. :-)..... same deal here,
Sub Rosa, Dark Page, DSN in general, are going inside, and that's great in
my opinion! Outside, with cowboy shootouts and technobabble extravaganzas,
you run the risk of continually having to jettison previously established
canon, a la the crap with TOS's "Khan Noonian Singh" and the "Eugenics
Wars" of the TOS 1990's, I still can't understand why people tolerate such
utter garbage as STII TWOK, <yawn> :-)

Dr. Crusher is always one of me & my wife's fave lead characters, and all
the episodes featuring her have been top-notch over the 6 years of TNG
(except for the misguided year where they attempted to replace her with Dr.
I-was-gorgeous-in-TOS-but-now-I'm-old-Pruneface-as-an-imitation-Bones :-).

Sub Rosa was especially wonderful because I watched it on tape immediately
after watching Patrick Stewart host Saturday Night Live show, including a
skit with him as a Scottish psychiatrist, treating Scottish patient Mike
Myers by getting totally pissed on Scotch whiskey...

My wife's waiting for Worf & Troi, and Picard & Crusher, to really get it
on before the series goes off the air.... :-)

Charles Robert Odell

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Feb 11, 1994, 11:51:35 AM2/11/94
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I thought there were a couple things wrong with this episode
(understatement of the year). Besides the plagiarism,
the "all a woman needs.." subtext, etc., that is.

1) WHY did Beverly have to stay on the colony? I don't recall
an explanation for that. It's not like Ronin couldn't go into
space. The whole plot seemed contrived to hell and back in order
for Bev to kill Ronin. (Especially since every action he seems
to have taken could be explained through sheer instinct of
survival.) Also, what in hell was he doing in the weather station
when he killed that bad Scottish accent?

2) When did Ronin invade her grandmother? I don't think it was
when Bev was living with her (I would think Our Favorite Doctor
(TM) would notice an anaphasic life-form bumping around in the
night). But Bev never said anything about her grandmother's
eyes being anything BUT green.

In summary, this episode had plot holes big enough to dive a
Mack truck through (or a Super-Star Destroyer).

P.S.
There were a couple of good things about the episode (the whole
Howard women have always had green eyes bit.. I thought that
was a nice touch). And the mood was apprroriate. (TV being a
writer's medium, I thought Frakes did a decent job directing
this dog, although, IMHO, the acting was pretty bad.) Also, it
was perfect bot-fodder.

P.P.S.
About the weather station thing, I just remembered that was
Ronin's link to the Enterprise.

Charles Odell
"You dirty switch, you're on again" - the Breeders
(Dont know what it means, but I like the sound of it)

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