Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
xganon
---
This post was anonymized at http://www.xganon.com
---
Richard J.
These posts are about what I'd expect from someone without the balls to
use their name. Why use an anonymous site? Afraid Desmond will rip you
a new asshole otherwise?
--
Teflon
JIGSAW1695
From: xganon rema...@xganon.com
Date: 7/19/2002 8:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <50464b70997aa8d3...@xganon.com>
Lately Desmond you seem on edge.
===============================
I think Dezi got his brains scrambled in his little MC mishap. BTW Dez, are the
prints of the accident available yet?
A Planet Visitor
"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020719224210...@mb-ci.aol.com...
They are still being processed by the 'Baltimore County Police.'
PV
John Rennie
"Richard J." <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3D38C64A...@hotmail.com...
I note, Richard, that the anonymous posters on this news group
are the ones who make personal attacks on very little pretext,
are provocative beyond the call of duty and care little in
general about the effects of their posts on weaker souls.
Anonymity gives them courage. Without it their views
would be mundane. With the honourable exception of
yourself, and the dishonourable exception of trolls, it
is the retentionists who tend to use this subterfuge. At least
it suggests that they, the anonymous ones, have
not lost all sense of shame.
JIGSAW1695
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org
Date: 7/20/2002 4:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <slrnaji7fk.27gu.pasd...@lievre.voute.net>
Le 20 Jul 2002 02:42:10 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
> BTW Dez, are the prints of the accident available yet?
http://www.zeouane.org/moto/photos.html
--
Des On The Road |CUNT#1
==============================
The bike seemed to have survived OK. But my God, what happen to that poor
fellows face that is standing next to it?
Richard J.
I think it has more to do with cowardliness. Either that, or another
trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
themselves.
--
Teflon
Richard J.
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>
> Le Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:09:14 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > These posts are about what I'd expect from someone without the balls to
> > use their name. Why use an anonymous site? Afraid Desmond will rip you
> > a new asshole otherwise?
>
> This individual has been in my killfile since his first post, Richard. I
> gather that he's complaining about the smell down there. The last
> resident of the killfile apparently smeared excreta over the walls of his
> cell. :-(
>
> --
> Des On The Road |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
> Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
> desmond @ zeouane.org
> http: // www . zeouane . org
Awwwwwww! You don't want to play with the poor trolls, Desmond? I
know they smell bad and have disgusting habits like humping your leg,
but with patience, plenty of baths and perfume, they aren't too bad.
One can occasionally even train them to do simple tricks.
I have to warn you though, they just will not housebreak. That probably
explains the crap all over the walls of your kill file cell.
--
Teflon
Vlad Drac
>Why don't we create one, just for you ? 'The Deathies Who Can't Say
>Anything Relevant' list ?
>
>Hmm, no ... there's already someone on that one.
>
Cool!
John Rennie
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:slrnajid3r.b12.pasde...@lievre.voute.net...
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:43:39 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
>
>
snip
>
> Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
> deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
I was going to include Rush in my list of honourable exceptions.
However I am not 100% sure that he is retentionist. Yes, I know
he has attended executions and has an encyclopaedic knowledge
about the DP and provides dear Vlad with all those little pieces
of knowledge that our little dyke stopper so adores. I just
don't remember any sort of declaration from him on the subject.
A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:Gw8_8.5617$UG3.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
egregious manner possible; and the anonymous poster, dirt,
who is the most outrageous poster of provocative and obscene
attacks who exists in this group. Both of whom are almost
perverse in expressions of abolition. You have taken a 'blind
eye,' to a very serious issue here, neglected some very real
examples, and attempted to gloss it over by leaving
yourself an escape route with the words 'dishonourable
exception of trolls.' Those 'trolls' form a very substantial
counterargument to your statement. It would have been
much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
to the exclusion of the other principle. And it's beneath you
to do so. And try to enlist Richard in this very disturbing and
false analysis you've presented.
Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist, an
anonymous poster, and not above providing insults when
they have been directed toward me. I have not always
held to some of the principles I believe in, having often
become disgusted by the perverse implications behind
some of the comments here. And have responded in less
than what could be termed 'reasonable anger.' My principles
have always held that we may comment on 'stupidity' in
respect to that 'stupidity,' when we see such 'stupidity.'
But other personal aspects should remains unsaid. As
I've said, I have not always followed this, but I should
say that I have never done so without seeing a remark
directed toward me that consisted of clear provocation
to reply in kind. Mostly, I find those comments laughable,
and contemptible at the same moment. Most would
certainly not be voiced in the 'real' world, without expecting
to recline uncomfortably on the pavement. Thus, I see
an 'escapism' mechanism at work, where one releases
pent-up rage over their own inadequacies. I see this
mostly from desi and dirt.
Further, the presumption that anonymity is not the
exercise of free speech, flies in the face of reality.
The need for this anonymity in a forum as volatile as
this one, is clearly demonstrated by what has been
attempted on Richard in just the past few days, and
the universal abhorrence demonstrated by such an act.
Never has this been more clear to me.
PV
"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority... It thus
exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First
Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from
retaliation -- and their ideas from suppression -- at the hand of
an intolerant society."
--- U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
Put 'newsgroup' in place of 'society' and you will see what it means.
Richard J.
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:33:38 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> This individual has been in my killfile since his first post, Richard. I
> >> gather that he's complaining about the smell down there. The last
> >> resident of the killfile apparently smeared excreta over the walls of his
> >> cell. :-(
>
> > Awwwwwww! You don't want to play with the poor trolls, Desmond?
>
> I'm already doing so, Richard. :-)
>
> > I
> > know they smell bad and have disgusting habits like humping your leg,
>
> So you _have_ met that aged Floridian, then ..?
>
> { snip }
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
> Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
> desmond @ zeouane.org
> http: // www . zeouane . org
LOL! No, he and I pretty much ignore each other. I was speaking of
trolls in general.
--
Teflon
Richard J.
The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
e-mail address. Poor choice for someone who remains anonymous himself.
Anonymity is, of course, perfectly within the rights of every author. I
shall not argue that. What I do argue is how seriously we should take
those who hide their identity. Besides, unlike the quote above,
retentionists are in the majority in the US, so why would they, as the
quote suggest, need to hide from the majority?
--
Teflon
John Rennie
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
news:4Hg_8.73493$DS.19...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
Do study the phrase 'it is the retentionists who use this
subterfuge'. That means it is the retentinists who invariable
use nom de plumes. Desmond doesn't. A Planet Visitor
does. Desmond is an abolitionist, A planet Visitor is
a retentionist. Do you think the point has sunk in yet?
and the anonymous poster, dirt,
A self confessed troll whose views are, therefore,
worthless.
.
> who is the most outrageous poster of provocative and obscene
> attacks who exists in this group. Both of whom are almost
> perverse in expressions of abolition.
One of them uses his real name and one doesn't. Only
you choose to group them together
You have taken a 'blind
> eye,' to a very serious issue here, neglected some very real
> examples, and attempted to gloss it over by leaving
> yourself an escape route with the words 'dishonourable
> exception of trolls.'
A worthy escape route and one which you cannot
block. I have no time for trolls and therefore killfile
them.
Those 'trolls' form a very substantial
> counterargument to your statement. It would have been
> much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
> same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
> of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
> naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
> that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
> question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
> to the exclusion of the other principle.
But one of them has courage unlike yourself and is pleased
to put his proper name to his opinions. Morally that means
that, however obtuse and barmy his opinions are, he's a
better man thann you are, Gunga Din!
And it's beneath you
> to do so. And try to enlist Richard in this very disturbing and
> false analysis you've presented.
I haven't enlisted him, he's already there.
>
> Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
> comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
HUH!!!!!!!!
John Rennie
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:slrnajj8fd.1ggi....@lievre.voute.net...
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:30 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
>
> { snip PV being 'grown' a new arsehole }
>
> >> Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
> >> comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
>
> > HUH!!!!!!!!
>
> perhaps he was so busy getting himself worked up into a frenzy
> (whilst, cough, not getting worked up into a frenzy, oh no, of course
> not ...), that he couldn't see his screen for spittle.
>
> Christ, I _hope_ it was spittle ...
>
> { snip }
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
At his age, I can assure you, it was spittle.
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:slrnajid3r.b12.pasde...@lievre.voute.net...
> >> use their name. Why use an anonymous site? Afraid Desmond will rip you
> >> a new asshole otherwise?
>
> > are the ones who make personal attacks on very little pretext,
> > are provocative beyond the call of duty and care little in
> > general about the effects of their posts on weaker souls.
> > Anonymity gives them courage. Without it their views
> > would be mundane. With the honourable exception of
> > yourself, and the dishonourable exception of trolls, it
> > is the retentionists who tend to use this subterfuge. At least
> > it suggests that they, the anonymous ones, have
> > not lost all sense of shame.
>
> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
> deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>
> appears to be 'no man's land' for the deathies. :-(
>
And a huge... ZOOM.... ZOOOM.....ZOOOOM, implied by desi in
that one. That 'moral high ground,' which presumes others are
pedophiles, lusts after 15-year-old-nieces of other posters, lies
with claims that other posters committed crimes... plus various
and other sundry 'reasonable' posts. As I said... desi is only
practicing his WHOOSH routine here. :-(
PV
>
> --
> Des On The Road |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|GOD'S SHAKING HIS HEAD
|THE WORLD SUCKS
A Planet Visitor
"Richard J." <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3D39575F...@hotmail.com...
Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
You would do well to examine the content of our 1st Amendment,
to recognize the meaning of 'free speech.' And you would do well
to also recognize what an abolitionist has attempted to perpetrate on
you personally in respect to your non-anonymous postings.
You are being 'played,' not here by John, but 'played' nonetheless,
in the general sense. And it saddens me to see you fall into
a trap which would presume the 1st Amendment has no meaning.
"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority... It thus
exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First
Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from
retaliation -- and their ideas from suppression -- at the hand of
an intolerant society."
--- U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
Put 'newsgroup' in place of 'society' and you will see what it means.
And on a personal note, IMHO -- It would do well that you don't
appear to be 'sucking up,' to desi, who presumes his non-anonymous
posts provide him the 'right' to lie. There is no 'right to lie.'
PV
> --
> Teflon
>
John Rennie
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> I think it has more to do with cowardliness. Either that, or another
> >> trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
> >> several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
> >> viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
> >> themselves.
>
> > Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
>
> everyone (and I'm sure that it would be _everyone_) on this newsgroup to
> shake his head, and say, 'PV accusing someone who disagrees with him, of
> being "moronic" again ...'
>
> { snip }
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
The sort of statement that comes easily from an anonymous poster.
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:00:48 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > exercise of free speech, flies in the face of reality.
> > The need for this anonymity in a forum as volatile as
> > this one, is clearly demonstrated by what has been
> > attempted on Richard in just the past few days, and
> > the universal abhorrence demonstrated by such an act.
> > Never has this been more clear to me.
>
>
ROTFLMAO.. Because I didn't remark on it, doesn't mean it
didn't 'bother' me, sport. Don't try to put emotions into what
I DON'T SAY. Put them into what I DO SAY.
> I would call you a hypocrite, PV, but after what you just wrote, to do
> so would be tautological.
>
And unlike you, I'd simply call you that hypocrite. There are no
'but' conditions in what I see in you. You having SAID those things
which demonstrate a hypocrisy, rather than my having to IMAGINE
you would have said it because it was unsaid. Of course, this is
undoubtedly much too deep for you to comprehend. Thus, I can
understand your confusion.
PV
> { snip }
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
A Planet Visitor
> >> of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
> >> having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
> >> egregious manner possible;
>
> > The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
> > their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
> > inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
> > e-mail address.
>
>
> { snip PV's squeals as he gets 're-acquainted' with the corrugated wooden
> pole }
Hee hee hee... And I just finished explaining 'oblique insult,' and
there desi goes proving it for me.
Do I hear a SLURP...SLURP... SLURP from potty-mouth, desi in his latest
posts to Richard?
PV
A Planet Visitor
"Richard J." <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3D39A006...@hotmail.com...
try to create here. In fact, he USES it to add some 'luster' to what
are recognizable lies, IMHO. He once posted an address, claiming
it was his home address, challenging another to get him. While it
turned out he had only demonstrated he is not ACTUALLY that
'brave' (sic) since the address he provided was a non-existent address.
And he has expressed conflicting views on how he would fear death
in one post, while in another post said that death holds no fear for him.
Whether one posts his 'name' or a 'handle' doesn't make his comments
TRUE. We deal in TRUTHS, rather than AUTHOR here, if we
present 'fact' as part of our argument. Anyway, I always presumed
we did. And if we express OPINION, we should not lend more
credence to such an opinion, since we are all supposedly the same.
The WORDS represent the meaning here. And if that were
not the case, then I can suppose the greatest credence should
be given to Mr. Sharp, who most certainly provides a name which
is absolutely true, and who is highly visible.
Quite seriously I believe neither side should disclose their identities.
It lends no sense of 'reality' to the words. The words should be
examined for CONTENT, rather than AUTHOR. There are kooks
on both sides of this issue... you encountered one. dirt is another.
He once phoned a member in another group in the middle-of-the-
night, in a drunken stupor. There is no question of a certain
heightened 'threat.' Desi himself has 'claimed' his flat was 'firebombed'
by another member. Flat-out ACCUSED him of doing so. And
desi will NEVER be able to state such a lie in respect to MY
real name. And he knows how utterly stupid it would be for him
to claim ANYTHING personal about me, since he KNOWS nothing
personal about me. This is a highly volatile newsgroup. There
are others - unnamed -- that I post to under my real name.
ALWAYS using my earthlink connection, which holds a
dynamic address different with every post. I would NEVER
post under my true name in Road runner, which maintains the
address for some length of time before changing it. I am not
as benign a poster as you are, Richard. Although you don't
'back down' from an argument, you do not maintain the contentious
level of posting that I do in just about all my arguments. This
places me in a very disadvantageous position in respect to
'personal' attacks, which you just experienced. Were I to
provide my 'real name,' it would only leave me open to 'personal'
attacks against my REAL NAME, probably greater than that
you just experienced, since you are not as contentious as
I am.
There have been web pages created in 'devotion' to ridicule of
me, my handle has been forged in ridicule of me. Now, I do not see
this as because I am a figure of ridicule (I may well be, but that isn't
the point), more than I represent a 'danger' to the argument they
would offer, since they have not accepted this forum as the arena
to argue in. I have come to call this 'oblique insults.' And after
receiving many of them, I must confess I will often respond in
kind, when the one who has insulted me, makes a stupid remark
in a post to another. My point is, regardless of whether I am
abolitionist or retentionist, providing my name can lead to
unwanted personal contacts, even as benign as flooding of my
e-mail, forcing me to change an address I have become very
comfortable with. And if I do provide my real name, I can expect
forgery of THAT name to suddenly appear, making it appear
that my REAL NAME is a racist. Which was the perception
given when my handle was forged. Who really NEEDS THAT?
I am not here to say WHO I am. That adds NOTHING to WHAT
I SAY. Accept it or reject it. It doesn't matter to me. But don't
argue that it holds lesser value BECAUSE of who said it. I
personally take no back-seat to desi, because he provides a 'name.'
His words would be as unreasonable were he not to do so.
PV
> --
> Teflon
>
A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:pfh_8.4061$nU.3...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net...
has admitted he is a troll, as well. Just today in fact.
> .
> > who is the most outrageous poster of provocative and obscene
> > attacks who exists in this group. Both of whom are almost
> > perverse in expressions of abolition.
>
> One of them uses his real name and one doesn't. Only
> you choose to group them together
>
>
> You have taken a 'blind
> > eye,' to a very serious issue here, neglected some very real
> > examples, and attempted to gloss it over by leaving
> > yourself an escape route with the words 'dishonourable
> > exception of trolls.'
>
> A worthy escape route and one which you cannot
> block. I have no time for trolls and therefore killfile
> them.
Then I presume that desi is in your killfile?
>
>
> Those 'trolls' form a very substantial
> > counterargument to your statement. It would have been
> > much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
> > same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
> > of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
> > naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
> > that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
> > question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
> > to the exclusion of the other principle.
>
> But one of them has courage unlike yourself and is pleased
> to put his proper name to his opinions. Morally that means
> that, however obtuse and barmy his opinions are, he's a
> better man thann you are, Gunga Din!
>
ROTFLMAO .... This is one of YOUR Trolls, right??? Didn't
we just have a little talk on 'morality'? This one goes into
my 'hold file,' John.
In any case, he's still a TROLL. And you said you killfile all
Trolls, just above. And if you think he's a 'better man'
than I am, then you are unfamiliar with some of the things
he's said.
>
> And it's beneath you
> > to do so. And try to enlist Richard in this very disturbing and
> > false analysis you've presented.
>
> I haven't enlisted him, he's already there.
> >
> > Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
> > comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
>
> HUH!!!!!!!!
>
Arrrggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! A misspeak, and not the first time,
I've done this. Every time I catch a horrendous amount of
abuse, and I can expect no different this time. I've said long
ago, that I should stick to pro and con, rather than abolitionist
and retentionist, since they both end in -tionist... :-)
But trust me... the memory of this will fade into distant
history, compared to 'morality.' :-)
<Rest clipped>
PV
A Planet Visitor
>
>
>
'mikndless drivel.'
A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:Nph_8.4158$nU.4...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net...
'mindless drivel' assistant.
PV
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:slrnajj8fd.1ggi....@lievre.voute.net...
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:30 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip PV being 'grown' a new arsehole }
>
> >> comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
>
> > HUH!!!!!!!!
>
> perhaps he was so busy getting himself worked up into a frenzy
> (whilst, cough, not getting worked up into a frenzy, oh no, of course
> not ...), that he couldn't see his screen for spittle.
>
> Christ, I _hope_ it was spittle ...
>
PV
> { snip }
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:slrnajj8fd.1ggi....@lievre.voute.net...
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:30 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip PV being 'grown' a new arsehole }
>
> >> Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
> >> comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
>
> > HUH!!!!!!!!
>
> I let that one slide, as I imagined it to be a misprint ... or
> perhaps he was so busy getting himself worked up into a frenzy
> (whilst, cough, not getting worked up into a frenzy, oh no, of course
> not ...), that he couldn't see his screen for spittle.
>
> Christ, I _hope_ it was spittle ...
>
'mindless drivel'
PV
> { snip }
A Planet Visitor
> >> counterargument to your statement. It would have been
> >> much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
> >> same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
> >> of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
> >> naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
> >> that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
> >> question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
> >> to the exclusion of the other principle.
>
> > But one of them has courage unlike yourself and is pleased
> > to put his proper name to his opinions. Morally that means
> > that, however obtuse and barmy his opinions are, he's a
> > better man thann you are, Gunga Din!
>
> just seem to have the courage of my convictions that PV doesn't. What
> I find curious is that _each and every time_ that a 'cyberstalker' has
> posted private information to this group, it has been a retentionist who
> has posted an abolitionist's details. Never the reverse (I don't for a
> second consider Mrs Peel or whatever she calls herself, an abolitionist).
>
> Abolitionists (by definition) care for life.
Literally.... ROTFLMAO. And then you claimed that I was
'sanctimonious.' Have you considered flagging all your trolls
with these type comments? It makes them easier to distinguish
between Bin #1 and Bin #2. Further, you should have recognized
that John was providing a troll, himself, by his use of the word
'morality.' From the moment he used the word, he was on a troll,
and you, little fishy... bit down hard, actually believing he referred
to you in the sense of 'morality.'
> We would never place a
> deathie's safety at risk. I have had my former address posted here, my
> flat was firebombed, my late mother's address was posted here, several
> persons in Paris who happened to have the same surname as I, had their
> addresses posted to this group (one subsequently received threatening
> phone calls) ... all by a deathie. Never the reverse.
>
That is just so many lies, piled one on top of the other, that I do fear
the post may fall under its own weight. There is no doubt that
desi's 'Reality Check' just bounced.
> I genuinely don't see what PV has to fear.
>
That's because you've hidden all those mirrors, sport.sport. Jerks like
you, who if I provided my 'real' name would begin accusing ME of
'firebombing' their flat in their lies. You may post your 'real' name,
but the lies are just as 'real.' I've offered to confirm that 'lie' for you,
and you wiggled your way out. Let's see what time says about your
other lies.
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
> >> several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
> >> viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
> >> themselves.
>
> > Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
>
> everyone (and I'm sure that it would be _everyone_) on this newsgroup to
> shake his head, and say, 'PV accusing someone who disagrees with him, of
> being "moronic" again ...'
>
'mindless drivel -- Bin #1.'
A Planet Visitor
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:XWh_8.4458$nU.4...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net...
PV
Richard J.
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:38:14 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> You 'note' wrongly, IMHO. You have totally ignored the posting
> >> of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
> >> having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
> >> egregious manner possible;
>
> > The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
> > their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
> > inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
> > e-mail address.
>
> Fuck you, Teflon. ;-)
Not a chance, Desmond. If there was, however, it would be the best you
ever had.. ;-)
--
Teflon
>
> { snip PV's squeals as he gets 're-acquainted' with the corrugated wooden
> pole }
>
Richard J.
Do you really think such as Ms. C worries me? That thing could not
carry my jock strap. Besides, as the saying goes, he who laughs last
laughs best. My real reply to its actions will not be on this
newsgroup, but much more telling, and entirely legal.
I don't think I've played into any trap. I preferred to post under my
real name until dirt gave me my current nick. I decided I liked it and
started to use it just for the hell of it.
>
> "Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority... It thus
> exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First
> Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from
> retaliation -- and their ideas from suppression -- at the hand of
> an intolerant society."
>
> --- U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
>
> Put 'newsgroup' in place of 'society' and you will see what it means.
>
> And on a personal note, IMHO -- It would do well that you don't
> appear to be 'sucking up,' to desi, who presumes his non-anonymous
> posts provide him the 'right' to lie. There is no 'right to lie.'
>
> PV
We have the right to reply to those things we think untrue or partial
truths. I have in the past and shall again if the need arises, in my
opinion.
--
Teflon
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:31:06 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:19:21 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> > know they smell bad and have disgusting habits like humping your leg,
>
>>> So you _have_ met that aged Floridian, then ..?
>
>> LOL! No, he and I pretty much ignore each other. I was speaking of
>> trolls in general.
>
>I see. Like me, for instance ..? ;-)
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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Desi is afraid of his own words! He can be reached at des...@noos.fr or
des...@zeouane.org.
As everyone knows, only COWARDS forge posts yet don't allow their own to be
archived!
Now Desi, Tell us about the Baltimore County police.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:46:21 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:30 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip PV being 'grown' a new arsehole }
>
>>> Now, you might ask why I would involve myself in your
>>> comment? Well, it's because I am an abolitionist,
>
>> HUH!!!!!!!!
>
>I let that one slide, as I imagined it to be a misprint ... or
>perhaps he was so busy getting himself worked up into a frenzy
>(whilst, cough, not getting worked up into a frenzy, oh no, of course
>not ...), that he couldn't see his screen for spittle.
>
>Christ, I _hope_ it was spittle ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:57:21 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:50:35 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Christ, I _hope_ it was spittle ...
>
>> At his age, I can assure you, it was spittle.
>
><note to self: don't read AADP with mouth full of red wine ...>
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:06:19 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:00:48 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Further, the presumption that anonymity is not the
>> exercise of free speech, flies in the face of reality.
>> The need for this anonymity in a forum as volatile as
>> this one, is clearly demonstrated by what has been
>> attempted on Richard in just the past few days, and
>> the universal abhorrence demonstrated by such an act.
>> Never has this been more clear to me.
>
>S'funny ... didn't bother you when it was being done to me.
>
>I would call you a hypocrite, PV, but after what you just wrote, to do
>so would be tautological.
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:55:33 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:33:38 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> This individual has been in my killfile since his first post, Richard. I
>>> gather that he's complaining about the smell down there. The last
>>> resident of the killfile apparently smeared excreta over the walls of his
>>> cell. :-(
>
>> Awwwwwww! You don't want to play with the poor trolls, Desmond?
>
>I'm already doing so, Richard. :-)
>
>> I
>> know they smell bad and have disgusting habits like humping your leg,
>
>So you _have_ met that aged Floridian, then ..?
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:57:37 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:28:15 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> I note, Richard, that the anonymous posters on this news group
>>> are the ones who make personal attacks on very little pretext,
>>> are provocative beyond the call of duty and care little in
>>> general about the effects of their posts on weaker souls.
>>> Anonymity gives them courage. Without it their views
>>> would be mundane. With the honourable exception of
>>> yourself, and the dishonourable exception of trolls, it
>>> is the retentionists who tend to use this subterfuge. At least
>>> it suggests that they, the anonymous ones, have
>>> not lost all sense of shame.
>
>> I think it has more to do with cowardliness.
>
>Look, guys, with respect and all that, but ... does _every_ thread
>have to end up discussing PV ??
>
>{ snip }
>
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>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:55:02 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:38:14 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> You 'note' wrongly, IMHO. You have totally ignored the posting
>>> of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
>>> having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
>>> egregious manner possible;
>
>> The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
>> their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
>> inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
>> e-mail address.
>
>Fuck you, Teflon. ;-)
>
>{ snip PV's squeals as he gets 're-acquainted' with the corrugated wooden
> pole }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:16:13 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> I think it has more to do with cowardliness. Either that, or another
>>> trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
>>> several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
>>> viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
>>> themselves.
>
>> Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
>
>Well, you could. But all that such a reply would achieve would be for
>everyone (and I'm sure that it would be _everyone_) on this newsgroup to
>shake his head, and say, 'PV accusing someone who disagrees with him, of
>being "moronic" again ...'
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:28:45 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:50:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> I think it has more to do with cowardliness. Either that, or another
>>> >> trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
>>> >> several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
>>> >> viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
>>> >> themselves.
>
>>> > Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
>
>>> Well, you could. But all that such a reply would achieve would be for
>>> everyone (and I'm sure that it would be _everyone_) on this newsgroup to
>>> shake his head, and say, 'PV accusing someone who disagrees with him, of
>>> being "moronic" again ...'
>
>> 'mindless drivel -- Bin #1.'
>
>An opinion shared by zero persons on this group, I'm sure. Care to ask
>them for their opinion ..?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:53:28 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:39:30 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Those 'trolls' form a very substantial
>>> counterargument to your statement. It would have been
>>> much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
>>> same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
>>> of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
>>> naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
>>> that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
>>> question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
>>> to the exclusion of the other principle.
>
>> But one of them has courage unlike yourself and is pleased
>> to put his proper name to his opinions. Morally that means
>> that, however obtuse and barmy his opinions are, he's a
>> better man thann you are, Gunga Din!
>
>Not 'better', John. I do not consider myself 'better' than any man. I
>just seem to have the courage of my convictions that PV doesn't. What
>I find curious is that _each and every time_ that a 'cyberstalker' has
>posted private information to this group, it has been a retentionist who
>has posted an abolitionist's details. Never the reverse (I don't for a
>second consider Mrs Peel or whatever she calls herself, an abolitionist).
>
>Abolitionists (by definition) care for life. We would never place a
>deathie's safety at risk. I have had my former address posted here, my
>flat was firebombed, my late mother's address was posted here, several
>persons in Paris who happened to have the same surname as I, had their
>addresses posted to this group (one subsequently received threatening
>phone calls) ... all by a deathie. Never the reverse.
>
>I genuinely don't see what PV has to fear.
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:51:04 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:00:41 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>>> Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
>>> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
>>> deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
>>> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>
>> I was going to include Rush in my list of honourable exceptions.
>> However I am not 100% sure that he is retentionist. Yes, I know
>> he has attended executions and has an encyclopaedic knowledge
>> about the DP and provides dear Vlad with all those little pieces
>> of knowledge that our little dyke stopper so adores. I just
>> don't remember any sort of declaration from him on the subject.
>
>I recall several occasions where he has stated his 'appartenance' to
>the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:31:02 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:24:22 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> > Further, the presumption that anonymity is not the
>>> > exercise of free speech, flies in the face of reality.
>>> > The need for this anonymity in a forum as volatile as
>>> > this one, is clearly demonstrated by what has been
>>> > attempted on Richard in just the past few days, and
>>> > the universal abhorrence demonstrated by such an act.
>>> > Never has this been more clear to me.
>
>>> S'funny ... didn't bother you when it was being done to me.
>
>> ROTFLMAO.. Because I didn't remark on it, doesn't mean it
>> didn't 'bother' me, sport. Don't try to put emotions into what
>> I DON'T SAY. Put them into what I DO SAY.
>
> 'He who is silent, consents'.
> (PV, 14 May 2001)
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:34:55 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:24:23 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> You 'note' wrongly, IMHO. You have totally ignored the posting
>>> >> of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
>>> >> having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
>>> >> egregious manner possible;
>
>>> > The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
>>> > their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
>>> > inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
>>> > e-mail address.
>
>>> **** you, Teflon. ;-)
>>>
>>> { snip PV's squeals as he gets 're-acquainted' with the corrugated wooden
>>> pole }
>
>> Hee hee hee... And I just finished explaining 'oblique insult,' and
>> there desi goes proving it for me.
>>
>> Do I hear a SLURP...SLURP... SLURP from potty-mouth, desi in his latest
>> posts to Richard?
>
>LOL ... you get weaker and weaker with every post.
>
>It's like watching a beached whale die, and not be able to help. The
>sheer weight of PV's pretentiousness, crushing his lungs, making it
>difficult for him to breathe.
>
>How's Sean ..?
>
>--
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:44:35 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:49:03 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> Those 'trolls' form a very substantial
>>> >> counterargument to your statement. It would have been
>>> >> much more truthful and reasonable for you to have made the
>>> >> same remark, and noted 'with the dishonourable exception
>>> >> of a few abolitionists and retentionists as well,' without
>>> >> naming any names or handles. Instead it leaves the impression
>>> >> that 'only' retentionists are 'dishonorable trolls.' There is no
>>> >> question that both desi and dirt are abolitionist and troll, neither
>>> >> to the exclusion of the other principle.
>
>>> > But one of them has courage unlike yourself and is pleased
>>> > to put his proper name to his opinions. Morally that means
>>> > that, however obtuse and barmy his opinions are, he's a
>>> > better man thann you are, Gunga Din!
>
>>> Not 'better', John. I do not consider myself 'better' than any man. I
>>> just seem to have the courage of my convictions that PV doesn't. What
>>> I find curious is that _each and every time_ that a 'cyberstalker' has
>>> posted private information to this group, it has been a retentionist who
>>> has posted an abolitionist's details. Never the reverse (I don't for a
>>> second consider Mrs Peel or whatever she calls herself, an abolitionist).
>>>
>>> Abolitionists (by definition) care for life.
>
>> Literally.... ROTFLMAO. And then you claimed that I was
>> 'sanctimonious.'
>
>I have no need to 'claim' anything of the sort. It is obvious. All
>I do is to observe, and to bring the attention of the group, to bear on
>your character disorders, that would make Hannibal Lecter look like
>Mother Theresa ...
>
>{ snip auto-spank }
>
>Getting hot where you are, PV ? Open the windows, mate. And get into
>that bath, but not before alerting the airport .......
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:13:52 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
>>> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
>>> deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
>>> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>>>
>>> Sadly, the moral high ground so naturally occupied by us abolitionists,
>>> appears to be 'no man's land' for the deathies. :-(
>
>> And a huge... ZOOM.... ZOOOM.....ZOOOOM, implied by desi in
>> that one.
>
>No, a huge 'bite ... bite ... bite ...' on your and incubus's part,
>PV. :-D
>
>> That 'moral high ground,' which presumes others are
>> pedophiles,
>
>Let's be serious, PV. You have called me a racist, and I have never
>made a racist statement. The 'statement' you use to back up your
>accusation that I am racist, is no more 'racist' than that of an author
>who uses 'dialectal' English in his depiction of scenes.
>
>I know you're not a paedophile, and you know I'm not a racist. So let's
>both drop those little insults from our repertoire, eh ?
>
>> lusts after 15-year-old-nieces of other posters,
>
>She, like, told me she was 18, officer ... honest !!
>
>Seriously, PV ... I said, 'your sixteen-year-old niece,' not 15.
>
>> lies
>> with claims that other posters committed crimes...
>
>Eh ? What are you talking about ? The firebombing ? I did _not_
>claim that Drewl was responsible for that.
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:07:31 +0000
>
>Le 20 Jul 2002 09:01:08 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>>>> BTW Dez, are the prints of the accident available yet?
>
>>> http://www.zeouane.org/moto/photos.html
>
>> The bike seemed to have survived OK. But my God, what happen to that poor
>> fellows face that is standing next to it?
>
>He fell on his face, when the bike went over. :-)
>
>Alternatively, he was just out of bed, wasn't wearing sunglasses, and
>was screwing up his eyes against the bright sunlight.
>
>Pick whichever one you want. :-)
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:23:16 +0000
>
>Le 20 Jul 2002 02:42:10 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>> BTW Dez, are the prints of the accident available yet?
>
>http://www.zeouane.org/moto/photos.html
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:27:43 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:09:14 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>> These posts are about what I'd expect from someone without the balls to
>> use their name. Why use an anonymous site? Afraid Desmond will rip you
>> a new asshole otherwise?
>
>This individual has been in my killfile since his first post, Richard. I
>gather that he's complaining about the smell down there. The last
>resident of the killfile apparently smeared excreta over the walls of his
>cell. :-(
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:59:23 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:43:39 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> These posts are about what I'd expect from someone without the balls to
>>> use their name. Why use an anonymous site? Afraid Desmond will rip you
>>> a new asshole otherwise?
>
>> I note, Richard, that the anonymous posters on this news group
>> are the ones who make personal attacks on very little pretext,
>> are provocative beyond the call of duty and care little in
>> general about the effects of their posts on weaker souls.
>> Anonymity gives them courage. Without it their views
>> would be mundane. With the honourable exception of
>> yourself, and the dishonourable exception of trolls, it
>> is the retentionists who tend to use this subterfuge. At least
>> it suggests that they, the anonymous ones, have
>> not lost all sense of shame.
>
>Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
>of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
>deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
>posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>
>Sadly, the moral high ground so naturally occupied by us abolitionists,
>appears to be 'no man's land' for the deathies. :-(
>
>
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>Des On The Road |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:01:48 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:59:36 GMT, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>>Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
>>>of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
>>>deathie contingent.
>
>> And what about DirtDog, Mr Q and most notably, yourself desmond
>
>The use of strong terms to highlight the personality defects of the
>deathie contingent does not constitute 'abuse', Mr Drac.
>
>>>Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies whose
>>>posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>
>> Shit, another list i am not on
>
>Why don't we create one, just for you ? 'The Deathies Who Can't Say
>Anything Relevant' list ?
>
>Hmm, no ... there's already someone on that one.
>
><fx: waves in the direction of Tampa Bay ...>
>
>{ snip }
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:50:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> I think it has more to do with cowardliness. Either that, or another
> >> >> trait I've noticed in similar types. Some people enjoy posting under
> >> >> several different nicknames, posing as different people with different
> >> >> viewpoints. It really gets funny when they carry on conversations with
> >> >> themselves.
>
> >> > Might I reply that this is one of your more moronic posts, Richard?
>
> >> Well, you could. But all that such a reply would achieve would be for
> >> everyone (and I'm sure that it would be _everyone_) on this newsgroup to
> >> shake his head, and say, 'PV accusing someone who disagrees with him, of
> >> being "moronic" again ...'
>
> > 'mindless drivel -- Bin #1.'
>
> them for their opinion ..?
>
have now raised your comments to 'obsessive mindless drivel.'
BTW -- I can hear that SLURP as it rushes over the sky from
Paris to Texas.
desi's 'mindless drivel' -- Bin #1 again -> <plink>
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
> >> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
> >> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
> >>
> >> appears to be 'no man's land' for the deathies. :-(
>
> > that one.
>
> No, a huge 'bite ... bite ... bite ...' on your and incubus's part,
> PV. :-D
>
being 'ironic,' or a 'troll,' take your choice. Do you have any
idea how lame that looks after using it so often? Do you have
any idea how gut-busting funny I find it when you try to wiggle
out of what you've said?
> > That 'moral high ground,' which presumes others are
> > pedophiles,
>
> Let's be serious, PV. You have called me a racist, and I have never
> made a racist statement. The 'statement' you use to back up your
> accusation that I am racist, is no more 'racist' than that of an author
> who uses 'dialectal' English in his depiction of scenes.
>
> I know you're not a paedophile, and you know I'm not a racist. So let's
> both drop those little insults from our repertoire, eh ?
>
Actually, that is not a quid pro quo type agreement, since I can
demonstrate the statement I speak of, while you have NOTHING
except an empty insult to base your disgusting comment on.
But you most certainly DID make a very subtle racist statement
in your description of someone who would rob you presumably
ONLY being Black. The obvious implication that ALL robbers in
the U.S. are Black. And you certainly have used the disgusting
word we all know is used to demean the Black. You have a very
short memory. At that point, you became a very subtle racist, in
my view. Just as Earl, who referred to 'Black folks,' and a 'Black
mamma in a Cadillac.' One does not need to speak racial
epithets, or be a member of the KKK, or murder Blacks to be
a racist, if there is a certain INDIGNITY which is presumed in a
comment which can be seen to DEMEAN that 'race.' This does
not make you a 'certified' racist, loudly shouting out the superiority
of one race and the 'animal instincts' of the other. What it makes
you is a more 'subtle' racist, but one nevertheless. And I'll call
them as I see them. BTW -- The statement I speak of, is when
you remarked on the impossibility of being robbed in Paris and
the presumed certainty of being robbed in the U.S. and said ---
"not once have I had a revolver stuck in my face, accompanied
by the eloquent words, 'Gimme da dough, mothafucka o ah
toast yo ass !!' Make no mistake about it. You may claim
ignorance of the vernacular of the Black, but one could NOT
pose a statement in the exact format and abbreviated use
of certain words that you did there, to not recognize the
PURPOSEFUL racial implications in your words. This is
NOT an overreaction. This is simply a precise and correct
observation.
But in the interest of harmony (hee hee hee), I will accept
that I will no longer claim you to be a racist, and actually
never have felt you were a racist, in the meaning usually
attached to a racist. Let me say I found you less than
perceptive of 'racial' differences. As I feel the same about Earl's
comments. Who I feel is not a racist in that meaning as
well. And that will hopefully end the dialog on racist views.
Now if we could only get YOU to end your bigoted view
of retentionists, and stop calling them 'deathies,' and
referring to 'state-sponsored murder.' Which you must
understand has no meaning other than to inflame
passions, which is the intent of a TRUE racist.
> > lusts after 15-year-old-nieces of other posters,
>
> She, like, told me she was 18, officer ... honest !!
>
> Seriously, PV ... I said, 'your sixteen-year-old niece,' not 15.
>
Using the word 'serious,' twice in one post??? Who are you???
And what have you done with the 'real' Desmond Coughlan???
In any case, I found it very offensive to speak of things of
that nature, in respect to another poster's relative, considering
the nature of the act spoken of, and the age of the person spoken
about. Could you perhaps explain WHY you felt you needed
to descend to such a personal attack, against a totally unknown
person to you? Could you possibly explain what motivates
you, a la dirt, to leave the bounds of rationality in disgusting
attacks into areas best left alone? Why... in God's name..
WHY... would you call the Mother of a murdered child ...
perverse? What motivates such an irrational response,
regardless of how much you disagree with her argument?
I can see why you and I trade insults... we've journeyed
too far down this road to stop. But I've seen some of your
comments to others that I personally find border on
insanity.
> > lies
> > with claims that other posters committed crimes...
>
> Eh ? What are you talking about ? The firebombing ? I did _not_
> claim that Drewl was responsible for that.
>
Ahhh... that's the old desi back. Let's see... five bins here
Bin #1 -- troll
Bin #2 -- Irony
Bin #3 -- Lie
Bin #4 -- Can't remember yesterday
Bin #5 -- Thinks he's telling the truth.
If Bin# 1 or #2, desi is fooling no one. If Bin#3 desi is 'hoping' to
fool everyone. If Bin #4 -- Desi is fooling himself. If Bin #5 desi
is delusional. One needs only look at a post from YESTERDAY.
In the thread re:Murder outside my house, in a post to Incubus.
Quoting of you -- "The owner of one of our favourite restaurants
where we used to live, before Drewl had it firebombed"
Yes, I think we can safely put this in desi's 'mindless drivel'
new-bin #4 --> <plink>
> { snip }
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:24:23 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> You 'note' wrongly, IMHO. You have totally ignored the posting
> >> >> of non-anonymous desi, who has falsely accused others of
> >> >> having committed crimes, and insulted others in the most
> >> >> egregious manner possible;
>
> >> > The subject, PV, was anonymous posters using nicks to avoid showing
> >> > their real identity. Desmond, while certainly insulting and
> >> > inflammatory at time to others, has the courage to use his real name and
> >> > e-mail address.
>
> >> **** you, Teflon. ;-)
> >>
> >> { snip PV's squeals as he gets 're-acquainted' with the corrugated wooden
> >> pole }
>
> > Hee hee hee... And I just finished explaining 'oblique insult,' and
> > there desi goes proving it for me.
> >
> > Do I hear a SLURP...SLURP... SLURP from potty-mouth, desi in his latest
> > posts to Richard?
>
> LOL ... you get weaker and weaker with every post.
>
> It's like watching a beached whale die, and not be able to help. The
> sheer weight of PV's pretentiousness, crushing his lungs, making it
> difficult for him to breathe.
>
would be if you were to put a red clown's nose on that bozo face of
yours, take your picture ,and add it as a .gif to the bottom of each of your
posts. As it is otherwise... it's just more 'mindless drivel.'
> How's Sean ..?
>
I don't know... how's Dolly? She knit you a sweater while you were
gone?
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:24:22 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> > Further, the presumption that anonymity is not the
> >> > exercise of free speech, flies in the face of reality.
> >> > The need for this anonymity in a forum as volatile as
> >> > this one, is clearly demonstrated by what has been
> >> > attempted on Richard in just the past few days, and
> >> > the universal abhorrence demonstrated by such an act.
> >> > Never has this been more clear to me.
>
> >> S'funny ... didn't bother you when it was being done to me.
>
> > ROTFLMAO.. Because I didn't remark on it, doesn't mean it
> > didn't 'bother' me, sport. Don't try to put emotions into what
> > I DON'T SAY. Put them into what I DO SAY.
>
> 'He who is silent, consents'.
> (PV, 14 May 2001)
>
to broad principles, not every specific act. Because it is
not possible to comment on EVERY specific act that does not affect
one personally. I do not consent to 'starvation in Africa,' but I
am certainly silent about many of the deaths that occur. There
are too many, and the task is overwhelming. But, if one
of my family was starving in Africa, I would NOT be silent
about THAT. And in your case, I am not silent about fraud, but
cannot be expected to speak in EVERY instance where I see fraud.
Since I'd have time for little else. The concept of fraud is disgusting,
in every respect. I have been victimized as well. And, I speak
out against it because it is a crime in the more general sense.
But I can't be expected to speak every time someone bounces
a check.
desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #2 --> <plink>
PV
> { snip }
A Planet Visitor
I didn't tell her that her son's murderer would be the VICTIM of
a 'state-sponsored murder.' I didn't show the disgusting
disrespect and crass behavior to that Mother that you did.
I didn't make a 'joke' (sic) when a poster here remarked that
his neighbor had been murdered the night before. So
you really should try to be more specific, and not insult in
generalities. Clearly the evidence shows that you demonstrate
a certain character disorder on frequent occasions.
> { snip auto-spank }
>
> Getting hot where you are, PV ? Open the windows, mate. And get into
> that bath, but not before alerting the airport .......
Umm... who's winning the 'snot bubble' contest between you
and dirt??? Haven't heard from him lately. His nose is probably
backed up. I swear, they talk about the U.S. having rednecks, and
then you and dirt come along and put us to shame. ROTFLMAO.
PV
Oops... almost forgot.. desi 'mindless drivel' bin #2 - <plink>
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:08:45 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:19:56 -0400, Richard J. <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit
>:
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Fuck you, Teflon. ;-)
>
>> Not a chance, Desmond. If there was, however, it would be the best you
>> ever had.. ;-)
>
>Yes, that's all very well, Mr Jackson, but perhaps you'd care to tell
>me how to get coffee out of a keyboard ..?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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> > "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespam_de...@zeouane.org> wrote in
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> > >
> > snip
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
> > > of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
> > > deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies
> whose
> > > posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
> >
> > However I am not 100% sure that he is retentionist. Yes, I know
> > he has attended executions and has an encyclopaedic knowledge
> > about the DP and provides dear Vlad with all those little pieces
> > of knowledge that our little dyke stopper so adores. I just
> > don't remember any sort of declaration from him on the subject.
>
>
> --
> Rush Wickes -- remove the '-' to reply via e-mail
> Blacksburg, VA
>
>
Right then. You are now on my list of honourable exceptions.
Vlad Drac
>Right then. You are now on my list of honourable exceptions.
>
>
John Rennie
"Vlad Drac" <pat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Right then. You are now on my list of honourable exceptions.
> >
> >
> Is there anyone else on that list John?
Yes, Richard. Richard and Rush are both on my list because they are the
only two retentionists who sign their posts with their real names. A fact
that IMHO gives added credence to their posts. .
John Rennie
> Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:00:41 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
>
> >> Regrettably, John, you are correct. It is also worth noting that all
> >> of the abuse that gets thrown around the newsgroup, comes from the
> >> deathie contingent. Indeed, Richard and Rush are the only deathies
whose
> >> posts _don't_ involve petty attempts to insult other posters.
>
> > I was going to include Rush in my list of honourable exceptions.
> > However I am not 100% sure that he is retentionist. Yes, I know
> > he has attended executions and has an encyclopaedic knowledge
> > about the DP and provides dear Vlad with all those little pieces
> > of knowledge that our little dyke stopper so adores. I just
> > don't remember any sort of declaration from him on the subject.
>
> the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
Several abolitionists hide theirs as well, Desmond. I think
that those that do feel it gives them greater freedom.
Certainly its always the anonymous letters that are
the most scurrilous..
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:43:54 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:11:22 GMT, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>>Right then. You are now on my list of honourable exceptions.
>
>> Is there anyone else on that list John?
>
>deathies ... honour ...
>
>What do _you_ think, Vlad ?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:48:55 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:30:46 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> I recall several occasions where he has stated his 'appartenance' to
>>> the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
>> Several abolitionists hide theirs as well, Desmond. I think
>> that those that do feel it gives them greater freedom.
>> Certainly its always the anonymous letters that are
>> the most scurrilous..
>
>Abolitionist's have good reason to hide there name's, John, as the
>ATTEMPTS TO RAPE brought about by the deathie's has only resulted in
>an increase of the PROPORTION of the SQUARE of the hypoteneuse to the
>price of bread.
>
>Obvious, innit ?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:18:38 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:12:39 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >Right then. You are now on my list of honourable exceptions.
>
>>> Is there anyone else on that list John?
>
>> Yes, Richard. Richard and Rush are both on my list because they are the
>> only two retentionists who sign their posts with their real names. A
>fact
>> that IMHO gives added credence to their posts. .
>
>Question for you, John, as I sit here, listening to the sizzling of an
>'entrecôte à l'échalotte' being prepared in the kitchen ...
>
>Why do retentionists hide their identities ? We know that they do, but
>the question is ... why ?
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:30:46 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> I recall several occasions where he has stated his 'appartenance' to
> >> the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
> > that those that do feel it gives them greater freedom.
> > Certainly its always the anonymous letters that are
> > the most scurrilous..
>
> ATTEMPTS TO RAPE brought about by the deathie's has only resulted in
> an increase of the PROPORTION of the SQUARE of the hypoteneuse to the
> price of bread.
>
As you should have hid yours, when you claimed the Mother of a
just murdered child was 'perverse.' How sick.
[DISCLAIMER -- PV hereby disclaims all responsibility for any.
manifestation of the deterioration of desi's mental condition, the
decline of his ego, and/or the disintegration of his 'intellect.']
> Obvious, innit ?
desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #2 for his post... <plink>
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |EVEN SATAN KNOWS
|AND LIFTS HIS BROW IN WONDER AT
|THE EVIL DESI SHOWS
Cerberus
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnajja30.1ggi....@lievre.voute.net...
> > Le Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:02:55 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
a écrit :
> >
> > { snip }
{First part of true observation by PV snipped}
> by the eloquent words, 'Gimme da dough, mothafucka o ah
> toast yo ass !!' Make no mistake about it. You may claim
> ignorance of the vernacular of the Black, but one could NOT
> pose a statement in the exact format and abbreviated use
> of certain words that you did there, to not recognize the
> PURPOSEFUL racial implications in your words. This is
> NOT an overreaction. This is simply a precise and correct
> observation.
>
> But in the interest of harmony (hee hee hee), I will accept
> that I will no longer claim you to be a racist, and actually
> never have felt you were a racist, in the meaning usually
> attached to a racist. Let me say I found you less than
> perceptive of 'racial' differences. As I feel the same about Earl's
> comments. Who I feel is not a racist in that meaning as
> well. And that will hopefully end the dialog on racist views.
Holy Snapping Duck Shit, Batman. Run, Run the sky is falling. I can't
believe what I am reading.
{resumption of hostilities snipped}
PV and Desi, would you mind if I use selected postings from the last couple
of weeks, to illustrate a paper that I have to deliver. The papers subject
matter encompasses, amongst other things, Love/Hate relationships and
Subjective Paranoia.
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:11:33 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> I recall several occasions where he has stated his 'appartenance' to
> >> >> the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
> >> > Several abolitionists hide theirs as well, Desmond. I think
> >> > that those that do feel it gives them greater freedom.
> >> > Certainly its always the anonymous letters that are
> >> > the most scurrilous..
>
> >> Abolitionist's have good reason to hide there name's, John, as the
> >> ATTEMPTS TO RAPE brought about by the deathie's has only resulted in
> >> an increase of the PROPORTION of the SQUARE of the hypoteneuse to the
> >> price of bread.
>
> > As you should have hid yours
>
> of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly isn't
> 'hid'.
>
> { snip }
>
The OED --
HID ppl. a.: 'Hidden, concealed, secret."
HIDDEN ppl. a.: "Concealed, secret, occult, etc."
It may certainly be used as I used it, demonstrating you're simply grasping
at pedantic straws, which in this case are imaginary. I am sure you'll
be happy when the OED comes back on line, so you can 'check your
work.'
But in any case, let's look at your recent posts. You've used your childish
insults by calling me Argentinian, Korean, and now Serbian. Casting
your bigoted views on 3 additional nations, other than the U.S. Why
not just insult me by claiming I'm not Irish? It would save you mentioning
a number of other nations that you hold bigoted views against. But I
can presume that wouldn't suit you, since you have a great number of
other nations you can claim I come from, using a one-by-one methods,
in your bigoted way of thinking you've provided an insult, by claiming I'm
from a particular nation that you find 'less than civilized.'
Seriously, you have become rather hysterical in your insults against
various nations, presuming they can provide support for your immaturity.
Perhaps it's because they recognize Down Syndrome. You should
try getting over that eisoptrophobia, and see that your bigoted and
'nationalistic superiority' roots are beginning to peek through for everyone
to see here. As it is --
Into desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #1 with you -- <plink>
Vlad Drac
>
>Why do retentionists hide their identities ? We know that they do, but
>the question is ... why ?
>
>--
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:53:56 +0000
>
>Le Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:35:56 GMT, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>>Why do retentionists hide their identities ? We know that they do, but
>>>the question is ... why ?
>
>> I don't. I am really blood thirsty. Honest!
>
>Oh I'm sure that we all believe you, Vlad, but we were discussing
>_identities_. Unless your name really is 'Vlad Drac' ...
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:48:36 +0000
>
>Le Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:11:33 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> I recall several occasions where he has stated his 'appartenance' to
>>> >> the 'deathie' side of things ...
>
>>> > Several abolitionists hide theirs as well, Desmond. I think
>>> > that those that do feel it gives them greater freedom.
>>> > Certainly its always the anonymous letters that are
>>> > the most scurrilous..
>
>>> Abolitionist's have good reason to hide there name's, John, as the
>>> ATTEMPTS TO RAPE brought about by the deathie's has only resulted in
>>> an increase of the PROPORTION of the SQUARE of the hypoteneuse to the
>>> price of bread.
>
>> As you should have hid yours
>
>Oh, as I should have 'hid' (sic) mine ? LOL ... what's the past participle
>of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly isn't
>'hid'.
>
>{ snip }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:45:05 +0000
>
>Le Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:11:19 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> > As you should have hid yours
>
>>> Oh, as I should have 'hid' (sic) mine ? LOL ... what's the past
>participle
>>> of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly isn't
>>> 'hid'.
>
>> The OED --
>> HID ppl. a.: 'Hidden, concealed, secret."
>> HIDDEN ppl. a.: "Concealed, secret, occult, etc."
>
>LOL ... PV quoting _The OED_ ... how exquisitely ironic !!
>
>> It may certainly be used as I used it, demonstrating you're simply grasping
>> at pedantic straws, which in this case are imaginary. I am sure you'll
>> be happy when the OED comes back on line, so you can 'check your
>> work.'
>
>I'm well aware of what the word 'hid' means, but the phrase you used
>was no more correct than, 'He had went upstairs,' or, 'Had you took
>my advice ...'
>
>The examples above would use 'gone', 'taken', and your example should
>have used 'hidden'. Unless you're now going to claim that you were
>using the 'archaic' form ... ha! ha! ha!
>
>> But in any case, let's look at your recent posts. You've used your
>childish
>> insults by calling me Argentinian, Korean, and now Serbian. Casting
>> your bigoted views on 3 additional nations, other than the U.S. Why
>> not just insult me by claiming I'm not Irish? It would save you mentioning
>> a number of other nations that you hold bigoted views against. But I
>> can presume that wouldn't suit you, since you have a great number of
>> other nations you can claim I come from, using a one-by-one methods,
>> in your bigoted way of thinking you've provided an insult, by claiming I'm
>> from a particular nation that you find 'less than civilized.'
>
>I can see that PV is going for the record of 'most points missed in
>a single week'. The prize will be a new Clue, for it's obvious that
>you don't have one.
>
>ROTFLMAO !!!
>
>The 'Serbian', 'Korean', and 'Argentinian' posts, have been a continuation
>of my belief that you're not a native English speaker. I also said
>that you might be Chinese. I shall work through the countries one at
>a time, and hope (against hope ...) that you will have the honesty to
>'fess [sic] up' when I get the right one. Let's see ... staying out
>of Europe for the moment, so ... you're Swiss, aren't you ??!!
>
>Whatever. We'll eventually find out where you learned English as
>a foreign language. It's certainly not your native language, or at
>least I hope it isn't: such inept use of a language that you've been
>speaking since the age of 1 or 2 ... I'm sure that your friend the
>chimpanzee, locked in the room with his typewriter, certainly couldn't
>do any worse.
>
><fx: considers ...>
>
>PV, is there something you want to tell us about your relationship
>with this chimpanzee ? Is this the 'wife' you've been telling us
>about ? You bought her on a recent trip to Paris, in the
>exotic pets section of 'Samaritaine', didn't you ?
>
>'Fess [sic] up', PV ...
>
>{ remainder of PV being unknowingly 'ironic' snipped }
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:45:05 +0000
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A Planet Visitor
"Vlad Drac" <pat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d3ee568...@newszilla.xs4all.nl...
Everyone knows they do so to keep their flats from being 'firebombed.'
Just as the DP is 'society self-defense.' That represents 'personal
self-defense.'
Seriously, there are only two perceptions we can put up here.
The first is we might presume to present a 'fact.' In which case, we
must also provide some verifiable 'proof,' independent of any
other quality. The second is we may offer an 'opinion,' which is
clearly stated as an opinion. In both cases it doesn't matter if
their is a 'real name' attached. The first can be independently
verified and refuted if someone believes it is not factual. The
second represents the opinion of one person, and all things
being equal, the anonymous person has just as much a right to
an opinion as the person who provides a name. Because they're
simply opinions. Of course, if the one providing an opinion
claims some special quality lends more substance to his
opinion, such as claiming he is a Federal Judge or something
on that order, it could be seen differently. But when an anonymous
poster simply claims to be a layperson, that opinion certainly holds
no more and no less value than any other layperson, regardless if
the other layperson has provided a name.
I personally, hereby state that I have no special personal qualification
whatsoever, which would make my opinion any greater than any
other layperson.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:11:19 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> > As you should have hid yours
>
> >> Oh, as I should have 'hid' (sic) mine ? LOL ... what's the past participle
> >> of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly isn't
> >> 'hid'.
>
> > HID ppl. a.: 'Hidden, concealed, secret."
> > HIDDEN ppl. a.: "Concealed, secret, occult, etc."
>
>
I needed to demonstrate your bi-illiteracy. And your bigotry, of course.
A job well done, I'm sure most would agree.
> > It may certainly be used as I used it, demonstrating you're simply grasping
> > at pedantic straws, which in this case are imaginary. I am sure you'll
> > be happy when the OED comes back on line, so you can 'check your
> > work.'
>
> I'm well aware of what the word 'hid' means, but the phrase you used
> was no more correct than, 'He had went upstairs,' or, 'Had you took
> my advice ...'
If you're trying for the 'clever look'.... you missed. You should try being a
bit more vague if you wish to appear believable.
> The examples above would use 'gone', 'taken', and your example should
> have used 'hidden'. Unless you're now going to claim that you were
> using the 'archaic' form ... ha! ha! ha!
>
Just because no one understands you, doesn't mean you've said
something clever, desi. You should start looking at less 'original'
material... because YOUR 'originality' only makes you look less
'intellectual.' Outright plagiarism is your best bet.
> > But in any case, let's look at your recent posts. You've used your childish
> > insults by calling me Argentinian, Korean, and now Serbian. Casting
> > your bigoted views on 3 additional nations, other than the U.S. Why
> > not just insult me by claiming I'm not Irish? It would save you mentioning
> > a number of other nations that you hold bigoted views against. But I
> > can presume that wouldn't suit you, since you have a great number of
> > other nations you can claim I come from, using a one-by-one methods,
> > in your bigoted way of thinking you've provided an insult, by claiming I'm
> > from a particular nation that you find 'less than civilized.'
>
> I can see that PV is going for the record of 'most points missed in
> a single week'. The prize will be a new Clue, for it's obvious that
> you don't have one.
>
> ROTFLMAO !!!
TRANSLATION -- "I'm a bigot... and PROUD of it!!"
> The 'Serbian', 'Korean', and 'Argentinian posts, have been a continuation
> of my belief that you're not a native English speaker. I also said
> that you might be Chinese. I shall work through the countries one at
> a time, and hope (against hope ...) that you will have the honesty to
> 'fess [sic] up' when I get the right one. Let's see ... staying out
> of Europe for the moment, so ... you're Swiss, aren't you ??!!
Sorry, son... that's just more of your delusion at work. Switzerland
is most assuredly in Europe, despite your 'pseudo-intellectual'
claim that it isn't. That rather proves that you are bi-illiterate --
Ignorant in two languages. And demonstrating with your
own words that you can hardly throw stones at ANYONE. What is
it about those who study 'French Feminist Literatures,' that makes
them believe they have actually 'studied' something? When all it's
gained them is the belief that 'proletariat' is a type of cheese, and that
Switzerland and the Balkans are not in Europe. Tell me about
how 'Stalin was not from the left.' I see holes in your 'classical
education' that one could drive a Mack truck through.
> Whatever. We'll eventually find out where you learned English as
> a foreign language. It's certainly not your native language, or at
> least I hope it isn't: such inept use of a language that you've been
> speaking since the age of 1 or 2 ... I'm sure that your friend the
> chimpanzee, locked in the room with his typewriter, certainly couldn't
> do any worse.
>
Rationality in Desi's comment <--> Chernobyl Geee... two disasters.
> <fx: considers ...>
>
Ummmm... don't try to push the envelope of believability here,
desi. Let's not assume you have an ability that is undemonstrated
in every other post of yours.
> PV, is there something you want to tell us about your relationship
> with this chimpanzee ? Is this the 'wife' you've been telling us
> about ? You bought her on a recent trip to Paris, in the
> exotic pets section of 'Samaritaine', didn't you ?
>
The wine is getting to you, desi. You should lay off the sauce,
cuddle up to Dolly, and not read so many of my posts. Remember
that 'bruised ego, bottom of the pack syndrome,' study which
concluded that if someone makes you feel stupid, much as I
do to you, it can actually make you even MORE stupid as time
goes by? It seems to be working.
Since this particular post of yours has grasped for new heights
in ignorance, I'll need to post my 'disclaimer' again.
[DISCLAIMER -- PV hereby disclaims all responsibility for any
manifestation of the deterioration of desi's mental condition, the
decline of his ego, and/or the disintegration of his 'intellect.']
> 'Fess [sic] up', PV ...
>
Oh, me, oh my... A 'red-neck' Irish/Frog. You don't even know
what you're talking about.
> { remainder of PV being unknowingly 'ironic' snipped }
>
Oh, well... into desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #2 with you -- <plink>
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:21:27 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:46:54 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> > As you should have hid yours
>
>>> >> Oh, as I should have 'hid' (sic) mine ? LOL ... what's the past
>participle
>>> >> of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly
>isn't
>>> >> 'hid'.
>
>>> > The OED --
>>> > HID ppl. a.: 'Hidden, concealed, secret."
>>> > HIDDEN ppl. a.: "Concealed, secret, occult, etc."
>
>>> LOL ... PV quoting _The OED_ ... how exquisitely ironic !!
>
>> As you seemed to find some problem with me being from 'Serbia,'
>> I needed to demonstrate your bi-illiteracy. And your bigotry, of course.
>> A job well done, I'm sure most would agree.
>
>Oh I have no problems with whatever country you were born in. It's
>just always interesting to try to guess where someone is from, based
>on their use of language. I am satisfied that, considering the RAPE
>that you regularly perpetrate on English, that it is not your native
>language. Peruvian ?
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> The examples above would use 'gone', 'taken', and your example should
>>> have used 'hidden'. Unless you're now going to claim that you were
>>> using the 'archaic' form ... ha! ha! ha!
>
>> Just because no one understands you, doesn't mean you've said
>> something clever, desi. You should start looking at less 'original'
>> material... because YOUR 'originality' only makes you look less
>> 'intellectual.' Outright plagiarism is your best bet.
>
>Which doesn't answer the point I raised above, i.e. that you fucked
>up in English, yet again. Or is that the way say it in your native
>Icelandic ?
>
>{ remainder of PV dodging the issue of his nationality, snipped }
>
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>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Desmond, did Dolly stop putting out?
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A Planet Visitor
> Le Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:46:54 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> > As you should have hid yours
>
> >> >> Oh, as I should have 'hid' (sic) mine ? LOL ... what's the past participle
> >> >> of 'to hide' in your native Serbian, PV ? In English, it certainly isn't
> >> >> 'hid'.
>
> >> > The OED --
> >> > HID ppl. a.: 'Hidden, concealed, secret."
> >> > HIDDEN ppl. a.: "Concealed, secret, occult, etc."
>
> >> LOL ... PV quoting _The OED_ ... how exquisitely ironic !!
>
> > As you seemed to find some problem with me being from 'Serbia,'
> > I needed to demonstrate your bi-illiteracy. And your bigotry, of course.
> > A job well done, I'm sure most would agree.
>
> just always interesting to try to guess where someone is from, based
> on their use of language. I am satisfied that, considering the RAPE
> that you regularly perpetrate on English, that it is not your native
> language. Peruvian ?
>
it is not about to happen.
> { snip }
>
> >> The examples above would use 'gone', 'taken', and your example should
> >> have used 'hidden'. Unless you're now going to claim that you were
> >> using the 'archaic' form ... ha! ha! ha!
>
> > Just because no one understands you, doesn't mean you've said
> > something clever, desi. You should start looking at less 'original'
> > material... because YOUR 'originality' only makes you look less
> > 'intellectual.' Outright plagiarism is your best bet.
>
> Which doesn't answer the point I raised above, i.e. that you ****ed
> up in English, yet again. Or is that the way say it in your native
> Icelandic ?
>
Seems like you're getting 'hot under the collar,' desipoo. Am I
yanking your chain too hard for you? You always start getting
into those potty-mouth rages, when you find yourself frustrated.
Have you hid your regular list of insults. ROTFLMAO.
> { remainder of PV dodging the issue of his nationality, snipped }
>
TRANSLATION -- Well, no need to translate... we all know when
desi clips, it's because someone has said something vital to the
argument.
desi's 'mindless drivel' bin #2 -- <plink>