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Alec David Muffett

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Jan 23, 1992, 11:33:21 AM1/23/92
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I've been reading this group for a couple of years now, and as well as
having dropped the odd item in here or there (8-), I've noticed that
there are a large number of flame wars that come and go with a period of
about about 6 months.

The most common of there is "Joe Newbie asks 'How do (I|others) hack?'"
scenario. Forgive the patronising overtone of that statement, but after
seeing the usual 10->20 responses that question usually brings repeated
again and again, I was (a) getting bored, and (b) thinking...

"Wouldn't it be nice if alt.security had a standard FAQ, posted monthly
or so, which answers the following questions:-

(For example, picture questions as posed by J. Random Geologist)

1) How do people break into computers ?
2) Why do people break into computers ?
3) What tools are available to help you break into computers ?
4) But isn't it incredibly dangerous that such programs are public domain ?
5) Okay, so where do I get them from ?
6) How do I choose a good password ?
7) But surely 'zeolite' is a good password - I mean, no-one would guess it ?
8) Oh come on, you can't be serious..."

...and so on, in a faintly Emily Postnews style. If people support this
idea, I would be more than willing to compile this unless another person
is more favoured by the net. For my credentials, see the documentation
which accompanies any version of "Crack".

Perhaps then, we would see more of various security issues in this
newsgroup, instead of "That was a stupid question, and anyway your
spelling stinks, the fifteenth decimal place in the value of Pi you
quoted was wrong, and your armpits smell like bilgewater..."

Support, suggestions, etc, by email welcomed.
Flames canned.
- alec
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Dave Hayes

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Jan 23, 1992, 5:32:15 PM1/23/92
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a...@aber.ac.uk (Alec David Muffett) writes:
>I've been reading this group for a couple of years now, and as well as
>having dropped the odd item in here or there (8-), I've noticed that
>there are a large number of flame wars that come and go with a period of
>about about 6 months.

Brings new meaning to "that time of the month....er...year".

>"Wouldn't it be nice if alt.security had a standard FAQ, posted monthly
>or so, which answers the following questions:-

YES! YES! YES!

>Perhaps then, we would see more of various security issues in this
>newsgroup, instead of "That was a stupid question, and anyway your
>spelling stinks, the fifteenth decimal place in the value of Pi you
>quoted was wrong, and your armpits smell like bilgewater..."

Gee, I was beginning to like all the negativity...
--
Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
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He who has self-conceit in his head -
Do not imagine that he will ever hear the truth.

Brian D. Howard

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Jan 24, 1992, 11:05:24 AM1/24/92
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a...@aber.ac.uk (Alec David Muffett) writes:

>"Wouldn't it be nice if alt.security had a standard FAQ, posted monthly
>or so, which answers the following questions:-

>(For example, picture questions as posed by J. Random Geologist)

>1) How do people break into computers ?
>2) Why do people break into computers ?
>3) What tools are available to help you break into computers ?
>4) But isn't it incredibly dangerous that such programs are public domain ?
>5) Okay, so where do I get them from ?
>6) How do I choose a good password ?
>7) But surely 'zeolite' is a good password - I mean, no-one would guess it ?
>8) Oh come on, you can't be serious..."

>...and so on, in a faintly Emily Postnews style. If people support this
>idea, I would be more than willing to compile this unless another person
>is more favoured by the net. For my credentials, see the documentation
>which accompanies any version of "Crack".

>Perhaps then, we would see more of various security issues in this
>newsgroup, instead of "That was a stupid question, and anyway your
>spelling stinks, the fifteenth decimal place in the value of Pi you
>quoted was wrong, and your armpits smell like bilgewater..."


I think he volunteered. Indeed I'm *sure* he did. Who better
after all, 'es a native speaker of english.

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Kim Gregory

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Jan 27, 1992, 8:28:12 PM1/27/92
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Do it!

--Kim

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