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Dexter Kozen

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Feb 21, 1991, 9:49:48 AM2/21/91
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I was looking for something on the news last night about Queen
Margrethe's visit. All they had was about a 5-second shot of her and
Bush entering the banquet hall, followed by a couple minutes of Bush's
speech (the usual). This was on ABC, I think. Absolutely nothing on
the other networks that I saw. Absolutely no mention of her thoughts
on the current situation, no coverage of her speech or even any
mention of whether she gave one, or what she and Bush talked about.
One would think that in between being told 5000 times that Tariq Aziz
was on his way back to Moscow, they might have spared a few minutes to
tell us something about this wise and talented woman. (Or maybe they
did and I just missed it.)

Laura Hayes Burchard

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Feb 21, 1991, 1:57:46 PM2/21/91
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Well, round here we were informed that as a good Royal, she stayed away
from commenting on the situation. And she did have one little adventure;
on the way back from Charlottesville, her helicopter had mechanical problems
and was forced to make an emergency landing.

There was an interesting profile in the Washington Post, too. Sounds like
an interesting lady...

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to be incurred, and the other side is ready to face danger than accept an
immediate loss. --Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

Jakob Nielsen

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Feb 21, 1991, 5:56:37 PM2/21/91
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The AP newswire had a story on the visit which mostly stated that the Queen
looked striking and that Bush had praised Denmark's effort in the Gulf (which
surely shows that he can be diplomatic since that effort is not very
extensive). Nothing about the Queen's speech.

Hans Huttel

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Feb 21, 1991, 1:36:40 PM2/21/91
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In article <52...@cornell.UUCP> ko...@cs.cornell.edu (Dexter Kozen) writes:
>
>I was looking for something on the news last night about Queen
>Margrethe's visit. All they had was about a 5-second shot of her and
>Bush entering the banquet hall, followed by a couple minutes of Bush's
>speech (the usual). This was on ABC, I think. Absolutely nothing on
>the other networks that I saw. Absolutely no mention of her thoughts
>on the current situation, no coverage of her speech or even any
>mention of whether she gave one, or what she and Bush talked about.

[ stuff deleted ]

This is probably what happened:

Margrethe: This imperialist war you are waging is completely
unacceptable.
George: What a nice hat, Your Majesty.
Margrethe: I think my husband is gay.
George: He certainly looks very cheerful to me.


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Morten Ronseth

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Feb 25, 1991, 10:04:43 AM2/25/91
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>In article <52...@cornell.UUCP> ko...@cs.cornell.edu (Dexter Kozen) writes:

[loadsa stuff deleted...yawn!]

>Well, round here we were informed that as a good Royal, she stayed away
>from commenting on the situation. And she did have one little adventure;

True. It is not considered good policy for any member of any royal
family to comment on any current affair. They are not supposed to
have public oppinions, they merely represent their country.

Of course, this does not apply to the swedish king, who says
whatever he want's whenever he wants to. Sod the etiquette, let the
people hear him speak his mind!

Also, he doesn't believe in supporting Swedish industry. When it
came to choosing a yacht for him to play around with, he didn't
bother buying a swedish one? Heck no, let the man get what he wants,
foreign plastic is called for here!

He is probably the only king that smokes in public, too. Well, sort
of. During some official dinner, a TV camera caught him, lighting up
a cigarette. The look on his face when it finally dawned on him that
he was on national TV, is that of a kid being caught with his hand
stuck in the cookie jar.


Just for the record:
No, I do NOT dislike the Swedish king, I have marely brought forward
interesting facts about him, none of which, as it happens, are too
flattering.

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>to be incurred, and the other side is ready to face danger than accept an
>immediate loss. --Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

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Torkel Franzen

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Feb 28, 1991, 12:51:36 PM2/28/91
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In article <33...@sequent.cs.qmw.ac.uk> mor...@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Morten Ronseth)
writes:

>No, I do NOT dislike the Swedish king, I have merely brought forward


>interesting facts about him, none of which, as it happens, are too
>flattering.

Really? I thought you were pretty flattering. You said,

>Of course, this does not apply to the Swedish king, who says
>whatever he wants whenever he wants to. Sod the etiquette, let the


>people hear him speak his mind!

giving the impression that the king speaks his mind at all times -
which would be pretty admirable. This is very far from being the
case. Very occasionally, he says something that is not dictated by
protocol, and a considerable ruckus ensues.

The present Swedish king, like the Bernadotte kings generally, does not
give the impression of being remarkably intelligent, or display any great
skill in public speaking. Still, even opponents of the monarchy have nothing
much against him. He does his job as best he can. He is not any great
embarrassment to the country, unlike his great-grandfather. He may well
become as popular as his grandfather was as he grows old.

For the first time, a female Bernadotte is the next one in line to take on
the job. However, the Bernadottes are noted for their longevity, so I don't
expect to be in a position to comment on her way of doing things on Usenet.

Lyle Davis

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Feb 28, 1991, 8:16:04 PM2/28/91
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mor...@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Morten Ronseth) writes:
>He is probably the only king that smokes in public, too. Well, sort
>of. During some official dinner, a TV camera caught him, lighting up
>a cigarette. The look on his face when it finally dawned on him that
>he was on national TV, is that of a kid being caught with his hand
>stuck in the cookie jar.

Well, actually, I didn't want to mention it for fear of bruising some
Danish feelings, but Queen Margrethe was criticized in the American press for
putting out a cigarette in a saucer that held her coffee cup. (It was mild
criticism; it's just a social etiquette no-no over here. One uses an ash tray
if one *must* smoke.)

Magnus M Halldorsson

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Mar 1, 1991, 3:37:43 AM3/1/91
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In article <77...@crash.cts.com> ly...@pnet01.cts.com (Lyle Davis) writes:

> ... was criticized in the American press for


> putting out a cigarette in a saucer that held her coffee cup. (It was mild
> criticism; it's just a social etiquette no-no over here. One uses an ash tray
> if one *must* smoke.)

Funny, I had almost become convinced that the only acceptable protocol
was to open the car window and let the stub exit there, preferrably
while still burning.

Magnus

Roger Haaheim

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Feb 28, 1991, 1:28:38 PM2/28/91
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Paraphrasing part of what Mr. Bush said...

This is the Queen of Denmark; she's 50 years old.

Real diplomatic wouldn't you say?

Dave Walden

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Mar 5, 1991, 4:13:39 PM3/5/91
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Maybe. How old is she realy?

Dave Walden
djwa...@isi.edu

Hans Huttel

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Mar 6, 1991, 7:23:19 AM3/6/91
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In article <17...@venera.isi.edu>, djwa...@isi.edu (Dave Walden) writes:
> > r...@hpdtczb.HP.COM (Roger Haaheim) writes:
> >Paraphrasing part of what Mr. Bush said...
> >
> > This is the Queen of Denmark; she's 50 years old.
> >
> >Real diplomatic wouldn't you say?
>
>
> Maybe. How old is she realy?

She was 50 last year; a lot of money was spent/wasted on that account. I read
about the hype in Politiken; nice to have it all at a distance. OK, it was not
quite as bad as it often gets here in the UK... and it could have been worse:
if they had decided to throw a similar party for the Uffeman I would have renounced my Danish citizenship (I guess).

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Lyle Davis

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Mar 7, 1991, 7:56:07 PM3/7/91
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r...@hpdtczb.HP.COM (Roger Haaheim) writes:
>Paraphrasing part of what Mr. Bush said...
>
> This is the Queen of Denmark; she's 50 years old.
>
>Real diplomatic wouldn't you say?


Inasmuch as you chose to paraphrase what Mr. Bush said it is hard to
tell whether it was diplomatic or not. I suspect you quoted Mr. Bush out of
context. He may have a few faults, but I have not found him to be an
undiplomatic person.

Roger Haaheim

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Mar 13, 1991, 5:16:35 PM3/13/91
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=-> / hpdtczb:soc.culture.nordic / ly...@pnet01.cts.com (Lyle Davis) / 4:56 pm Mar 7, 1991 /
=-> r...@hpdtczb.HP.COM (Roger Haaheim) writes:
=-> >Paraphrasing part of what Mr. Bush said...
=-> >
=-> > This is the Queen of Denmark; she's 50 years old.
=-> >
=-> >Real diplomatic wouldn't you say?
=->
=-> Inasmuch as you chose to paraphrase what Mr. Bush said it is hard to
=-> tell whether it was diplomatic or not. I suspect you quoted Mr. Bush out of
=-> context. He may have a few faults, but I have not found him to be an
=-> undiplomatic person.
=-> ----------

I did indeed paraphrase him drastically and totally out of context. As I
remember she was standing beside him, definitely not looking 50, and he
was recounting the fact that she was born as WWII was starting. Probably
didn't occur to him that he was "dating" her. As I also recall she
glanced quickly at him but her expression didn't change...I doubt that
she missed the implication, but she certainly looked regal; never
changed her smile.

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