Deja's new 'x-no-productlinks: yes' header
Jorn Barger
> Thank you for your recent e-mail concerning the new feature in Deja.com's
^^^^^^^^^^^
> Usenet Discussion Service that detects product names in Usenet messages and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> hyperlinks these names to related content in Deja.com's Precision Buying
^^^^^^^^^^
> Service. These hyperlinks are not sponsored advertisements, but are simply
> pointers to other areas of Deja.com which we hope you will find relevant and
> helpful as you are reading Usenet discussions.
>
> We are sorry that you are offended by this feature. We do not believe that
> users of Deja.com will view the hyperlinks as being part of your message.
> Rather, we believe users will understand that the content of the original
> Usenet posting has not changed, and will appreciate that these hyperlinks
> are simply part of our continued efforts to make Deja.com a compelling way
> for users to discuss and learn about products
>
> We know that users love to discuss and debate their favorite products and
> services on Usenet, and our new links provide seamless, one-click access to
> additional information about the exact product being discussed - from
> specifications and features to user ratings and reviews.
>
> *Please bear with us during our roll-out of this feature. We are working to
> refine the process by which we generate these context-sensitive links in
> order to maximize their relevance to the products and services being
> discussed.
>
> We are providing these links to help users make the most of Deja.com's
> content offerings, and we hope that you will come to find them helpful.
> However, because we realize that some users would rather not have Deja
> display links to our Precision Buying Service content from product names
> mentioned in Usenet postings, we are currently in the process of
> implementing an "x-no-productlinks: yes" header which will suppress the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> generation of these hyperlinks on those messages. Deja.com also currently
> observes the "x-no-archive: yes" header, which prevents postings from being
> available on Deja.com. More information about using headers when posting
> through Deja.com is available at http://www.deja.com/help/help_pn.epl. For
> help on including headers when posting through other software or services,
> please refer to the help documentation for the software or service you are
> using to post Usenet messages. In addition, you may refer to the "self
> nuke" feature of Deja.com described at
> http://www.deja.com/help/faq_abuse.epl#nuke, which allows users to delete
> their messages which appear on Deja.com.
>
> We appreciate your using our service at http://www.deja.com. Thank you
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>
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Simon Clark 2000
jo...@mcs.com (Jorn Barger) wrote:
: > Usenet Discussion Service that detects product names in Usenet messages
: > and hyperlinks these names to related content in Deja.com's Precision
: > Buying Service.
RemarQ did this for a while--they have stopped it now. I bet they got LOT'S
of complaints! They're attaching the st00pid keen.com ads to the end of
posts instead. But at least this only affects the bozos posting from RemarQ.
: > we are currently in the process of
: > implementing an "x-no-productlinks: yes" header which will suppress the
: > generation of these hyperlinks on those messages.
RemarQ had a similar thing too, as soon as I discovered it I put it in my
header. I'll do the same with this one.
I haven't actually seen any of these Product Links yet. IHBT?
Also, I hear they are BUY PEZ adding subliminal messages YUMMY PEZ into
people posts to make people YOU NEED TO EAT MORE PEZ want to buy stuff they
MMMMM PEZ PEZ PEZ PEZ PEZ PEZ don't really want. Just like the Christians
did with that movie Battle Zone Earth.
--
Simon Clark 2000 - Urban Crime-Fighter
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/postgrad/clarksj/ IQC: 41011046
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Before you buy.
The Avocado Avenger
> > Please don't hesitate to contact us should you have any further
> > questions.
Does "What the hell are you idiots thinking, anyways?" count as
a further question?
It reminds me in a very strange way of a MUD I used to play, where
you would "drink" "alcohol" to "heal" your "wounds". A programmer
decided it would be "fun" and "realistic" to have your speech slurred
if you got too plastered, i.e. "Shomone shtole my shaushage!" Of
course, this led to everyone getting plastered and saying, "sit",
because when it's slurred, it's "shit". Tee hee.
Anyhow, an equally lame but infinitely more irritating version of
this could be to post via Deja, writing product names which aren't
used as products. Words like "eureka", "scotch", "cahoots", and
"deja" aren't always referring to the product with the same name.
If abused properly, this new feature could be ab^H^Hused properly
and with lots of entertainment value.
Alternately, one could use asterisks in any word that might be
seen as a product name; readers could then connect-the-stars to
find the secret hidden message.
--
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stac...@my-deja.com * Full of sound and fury,
Remove the guacamole to reply! * Signifying my pants."
Simon Clark
> Anyhow, an equally lame but infinitely more irritating
> version of this could be to post via Deja,
AFAIK this affects ANYONE posting to Usenet but only when the
posts are READ at Deja dot-com. When they display a post
appropriate words will be converted to hyperlinks.
> writing product
> names which aren't used as products. Words
> like "eureka", "scotch", "cahoots", and "deja" aren't always
> referring to the product with the same name.
RemarQ tried to pull this little scam for a while. Anytime
someone used the phrase "make up" (as in "I wouldn't make up
something like this") it got turned into a hyperlink to a
website selling beauty products. Duh!
Maybe RemarQ removed it because it made them look st00pid and
not because people complained.
> If abused properly, this new feature could be ab^H^Hused
> properly and with lots of entertainment value.
> Alternately, one could use asterisks in any word that might be
> seen as a product name; readers could then connect-the-stars
> to find the secret hidden message.
The best thing would be if people either complained or added the
thing to the header. It wont be long before they remove this
new "feature." When will they learn? IDIOTS!
--
Simon Clark 2000 - Urban Crime-Fighter
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/postgrad/clarksj/ IQC: 41011046
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Garamir
> Alternately, one could use asterisks in any word that might be
>seen as a product name; readers could then connect-the-stars to
>find the secret hidden message.
>
>
> Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * "Life is a tale told by an
idiot
>Remove the guacamole to reply! * Signifying my pants."
Okay, I give up. What was the secret message? My decoder ring's
busted.
-- Scott Rae
gar...@jps.net
Karlo Takki
67.d.enteract.com>:
>> Thank you for contacting Deja.Com Customer Support.
[snip canned response]
Subvert the system: <A HREF="http://www.pepsi.com">Coke adds life!</A>
Experiment: Fleet <= Will this link to a bank or an enema?
<!-- Yes, Remarq did this, too. I just don't care anymore. -->
k.
--
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really good at heart." - Anne Frank
Simon Clark
: <!-- Yes, Remarq did this, too. I just don't care anymore. -->
And they took out the HTML thing too, so you can't surround
posts in <blink> </blink> anymore. Meanies! It also means that
the bo^Wpeople at RemarQ can read what you wrote above. I hope
you are not a heavy sleeper...
--
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http://www.lancs.ac.uk/postgrad/clarksj/ IQC: 41011046
Simon Clark
: HEY! I think I'll add this to my newswebchatbbs at
: http://members.xoom.com/_______/news/index.html
: !!! I will make it produce links from "Simon Clark" to
: GAYHAIR.COM and PQQPYHEAD.COM!! HAW HAW!
I thought you were going to remove my posts?
Simon Clark
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: Simon Clark, if you think Remarq stopped the tag, what is the
: above? Keen.com now owns Remarq and they are tagging every
: message posted from their newreaders.
Huh? What are you talking about, Dave? I said they had stopped
inserting hyperlinks into peoples posts, and that they were now
adding the keen dot-com spam into RemarQ posters .sigs.
Why do you keep bad mouthing RemarQ? The WONDERFUL people at
RemarQ provide an EXCELLENT free service! The service provided
by the EVIL Deja dot-com is barely even mediocre. I can't
understand why you would even contemplate using their service.
DEJA DOT-COM IS HISTORY!!! REMARQ IS THE FUTURE!!!
Also, why do you persist in harassing me, Dave? You're not one
of those Net Stalkers I've been reading about, are you?
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PLEASE "CLICK" ON THE "LINK" BELOW WITH YOUR "MOUSE" AND HELP
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Garamir
>Why do you keep bad mouthing RemarQ? The WONDERFUL people at
>RemarQ provide an EXCELLENT free service! The service provided
>by the EVIL Deja dot-com is barely even mediocre.
True. Although, as I just noticed, there doesn't seem to be a
way to change the "Message Boards" header on a reply. Waah, I'm
not a bozo who doesn't read the Followup-To because there
/isn't/ a Followup-To!
It is vastly superior to any of my other options, though,
because most of my messages make it out to most of the Internet
most of the time, instead of:
A) Deja.com: We will send your message if it passes Secret Code
Inspection.
B) ISP 1: We don't carry news. Too much traffic.
C) ISP 2: WE WILL EAT YOUR MESSAGE AND SPIT ON IT! HA HA PUNY
MORTAL! COWER BEFORE OUR MIGHTY B0RKEN NEWSICAL POWER!!!!!
> I can't
>understand why you would even contemplate using their service.
Well, you use it "Before You Buy" a.r.k., of course.
>DEJA DOT-COM IS HISTORY!!!
No, it's ANTI-history! Watch the magical shrinking archives
swallow everything like a bad remake of "The Neverending Story!"
>PLEASE "CLICK" ON THE "LINK" BELOW WITH YOUR "MOUSE" AND HELP
>SUPPORT THE WONDERFUL REMARQ! GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY!
I tried to click, but then my mouse bit me and ran away and now
he's under the couch and he'd better not be chewing on the
cushions again like last week but I think he is.
-- Scott Rae
So, when will they have a free news server that
hosts /only/ a.r.k.?
gar...@jps.net
[default Remarq advertisement replaced with identical replica]
David DeLaney
> -- Scott Rae
> So, when will they have a free news server that
> hosts /only/ a.r.k.?
> gar...@jps.net
Ask Kibo. He saw it last.
Dave "working..." DeLaney
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Beable van Polasm
> The best thing would be if people either complained or added the
> thing to the header. It wont be long before they remove this
> new "feature." When will they learn? IDIOTS!
HEY! I think I'll add this to my newswebchatbbs at
http://members.xoom.com/_______/news/index.html
!!! I will make it produce links from "Simon Clark" to
GAYHAIR.COM and PQQPYHEAD.COM!! HAW HAW!
cheers
Beable van Polasm
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Tom J
Garamir <garamir...@jps.net.invalid> wrote:
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Simon Clark, if you think Remarq stopped the tag, what is the above?
Keen.com now owns Remarq and they are tagging every message posted from
their newreaders.
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<...>
>> "x-no-productlinks: yes" header which will suppress the
I read that as "x-no-yonderlinks: yes"
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makes one feel almost optimistic in a dangerous way.'' -Erich
Hecke
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>Also, why do you persist in harassing me, Dave? You're not one
>of those Net Stalkers I've been reading about, are you?
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Jeremy
> RemarQ tried to pull this little scam for a while. Anytime
> someone used the phrase "make up" (as in "I wouldn't make up
> something like this") it got turned into a hyperlink to a
> website selling beauty products. Duh!
>
> Maybe RemarQ removed it because it made them look st00pid and
> not because people complained.
RemarQ stopped because of the shitstorm that ensued. The negative
reaction was so great it was quite impressive.
Though I don't work on the RemarQ site, I work for another part of the
company and was brought in to help control the damage after that
incident. Saying "people complained" is like saying Hiroshima got
a little dent when the bomb fell.
I find it totally unbelievable that, after witnessing what can only
be described as the worst mistake RemarQ ever made, Deja would go and
do the exact same thing. It's amazing.
--
Jeremy | jer...@exit109.com
Beable van Polasm
> : http://members.xoom.com/_______/news/index.html
> : !!! I will make it produce links from "Simon Clark" to
> : GAYHAIR.COM and PQQPYHEAD.COM!! HAW HAW!
>
I don't know why you'd think that, because I never said it.
Are you feeling a bit PARAN01D, Simon? Is your GAY HAIR
stopping you from thinking straight? Do you think I am
trying to silence you by BLOWING UP YOUR WEB SERVER?? NO
WAIT! I DENY THAT COMPLETELY! THAT JUST SLIPPED OUT! I NEVER
TOUCHED YOUR WEB SERVER!!!1!
James Kibo Parry
> > and hyperlinks these names to related content in Deja.com's Precision
> > Buying Service.
"Precision Buying Service" is the prettiest obfuscation I've heard since
NASA started almost admitting the Challenger exploded.
> > These hyperlinks are not sponsored advertisements, but are simply
> > pointers to other areas of Deja.com which we hope you will find
> > relevant and helpful as you are reading Usenet discussions.
So remember, although they tell you to BUY things through the
"Precision BUYING Service", they're not ads.
"They're not ads, they're just propaganda!"
> > We are sorry that you are offended by this feature.
I think they're lying about that. I bet that there is at least one
employee of Deja.com who isn't sorry at all that they had to send
you a form letter explaining why they're going out of their way to
stick ads into other people's writings.
I am sorry that Deja.com doesn't have a clue about respect for
other people's creative efforts, respect for the intelligence of
Deja.com's users, or respect for the intelligence of people to whom
they send these bullshitty form letters.
> > We do not believe that users of Deja.com will view the hyperlinks
> > as being part of your message.
Even though they're mixed in with the middle of the message.
> > Rather, we believe users will understand that the content of the original
> > Usenet posting has not changed,
"We're not changing what you wrote, we're just adding lots of stuff to
it that you didn't think to write!"
Look --> "Four score and seven years ago,"
"Four score and SEVEN-UP years ago,"
It contains everything the original did, so it's even BETTER!
> > and will appreciate that these hyperlinks are simply part of our
> > continued efforts to make Deja.com a compelling way for users to
> > discuss and learn about products
Oh! So THAT'S the purose of reading alt.religion.kibology! We were
supposed to be telling each other to buy stuff for all these years before
Deja.com gallantly explained the purpose of the Internet to us!
BY THE WAY, 7-ELEVEN'S "EL TACO" SUCKS.
> > We know that users love to discuss and debate their favorite products and
> > services on Usenet, and our new links provide seamless, one-click access
(as opposed to those hyperlinks where you have to click them and then
turn a large crank in the side of your computer)
> > to additional information about the exact product being discussed -
> > from specifications and features to user ratings and reviews.
> >
> > *Please bear with us during our roll-out of this feature. We are working
> > to refine the process by which we generate these context-sensitive links
> > in order to maximize their relevance to the products and services being
> > discussed.
If I wanted to say something relevant, I would have said it myself, pinhead.
But thank you for your idiotic attempts to explain that I should like
having advertisements inserted in what I write because the ads make
my words MORE RELEVANT.
> > We are providing these links to help users make the most of Deja.com's
> > content offerings, and we hope that you will come to find them helpful.
> > However, because we realize that some users would rather not have Deja
> > display links to our Precision Buying Service content from product names
> > mentioned in Usenet postings, we are currently in the process of
> > implementing an "x-no-productlinks: yes" header which will suppress the
> > generation of these hyperlinks on those messages.
"In the process of implementing"? How long does it take to implement a
"TURN THE CRAP OFF" switch? Has it occurred to anyone else that every
other Usenet news server provides the ability to not see DejaNews's
advertisements from the moment it comes out of the box? They're claiming
they're struggling to implement an "off" switch for a feature they
should never have considered adding in the first place.
> > Deja.com also currently observes the "x-no-archive: yes" header,
I am currently observing DejaNews's "smarter-than-a-fish: no" management.
> > which prevents postings from being available on Deja.com.
> > More information about using headers when posting
> > through Deja.com is available at http://www.deja.com/help/help_pn.epl. For
> > help on including headers when posting through other software or services,
> > please refer to the help documentation for the software or service you are
> > using to post Usenet messages. In addition, you may refer to the "self
> > nuke" feature of Deja.com described at
> > http://www.deja.com/help/faq_abuse.epl#nuke, which allows users to delete
> > their messages which appear on Deja.com.
I tried Deja's "self-nuke" button but it didn't work, Deja.com is still there.
But it was really nice to give me the option of destroying my own articles
to prevent Deja from putting ads in all the ones I wrote in the past.
I hope they give me a similar option when Deja.com starts putting their
ads in reruns of "The Dating Game". (I would love to be able to push the
button that makes twenty-year-old "Dating Game" episodes vanish forever,
because then I could watch an entire day of The Game Show Network in
two and a half hours.)
> > We appreciate your using our service at http://www.deja.com. Thank you
> > again for your understanding.
SHOVING SHARPENED PRETZELS UP YOUR NOSE INTO YOUR BRAIN IS GOOD.
NOW THAT I'VE SAID IT, YOU UNDERSTAND IT. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
TELL YOU THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE TWENTY
DOLLARS YOU OWE ME NOW. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS LEGALLY BINDING.
> > Please don't hesitate to contact us should you have any further questions.
Remember not to hesitate! Be sure not to think about what you write
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I really gotta finish a
certain programming project
I've been working on which
will make some people here
very happy.
James Kibo Parry
>
> [on the way DejaNews is going to make every word you read on their site
> into a link to some household product from now on, by putting hyperlinks
> into other people's articles displayed on DejaNews]
>
> RemarQ tried to pull this little scam for a while. Anytime
> someone used the phrase "make up" (as in "I wouldn't make up
> something like this") it got turned into a hyperlink to a
> website selling beauty products. Duh!
>
> Maybe RemarQ removed it because it made them look st00pid and
> not because people complained.
My theory is that there were a lot of people who said "Hey, pinheads,
I'm taking you to court because (a) you are making it appear that
I am posting ads when I am just trying to carry on a conversation,
(b) my articles are copyrighted and I'm gonna sue you for mutilating
them, (c) you forgot to read the line at the bottom which said
UN-ALTERED DISSEMINATION OF THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION IS ENCOURAGED
AND IF YOU PUT ANY LINKS IN THIS ARTICLE YOU OWE ME A MILLION DOLLARS!"
Or maybe they just put in a link to a brand of cigarettes and then
a Florida jury awarded $100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to each
of the 700,000 smokers in Florida for tricking them into smoking
cigarettes for fifty years because there was a banner ad on a Web page.
> It wont be long before they remove this
> new "feature." When will they learn? IDIOTS!
Uh, Simon, the reason they're idiots is because they don't learn.
You know, like they said in school, "Those who do not learn from the
mistakes of history something something" and then I went to the mall.
-- K.
HA HA SIMON THINKS
IDIOTS CAN LEARN STUFF!
HE MUST BE A BOZO OF
SOME SORT BUT I'M NOT
SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHICH!
Schwa Love
ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) wrote:
> Simon Clark (cla...@my-deja.com) wrote:
>
> [Stuff about Deja putting ad-links in articles deleted]
>
> > It wont be long before they remove this
> > new "feature." When will they learn? IDIOTS!
>
> Uh, Simon, the reason they're idiots is because they don't learn.
>
> You know, like they said in school, "Those who do not learn from the
> mistakes of history something something"
"Go crazy?"
-- Schwa ---
I've been busy cataloging my Simpsons tapes, OK?
Alex Oren
Could you give an example URL?
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:27:05 GMT, ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
wrote:
} In alt.religion.kibology and alt.fan.dejanews,
Have fun,
Alex.
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Jorn Barger
> Umm... I never noticed their "banners".
> Could you give an example URL?
http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
(the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-info
page)
Ben Wolfson
>Alex Oren <alexo@bigfoot---filter---.com> wrote:
>> Umm... I never noticed their "banners".
>> Could you give an example URL?
>
> http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
>
>(the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-info
>page)
No it doesn't.
--
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Angels are just a clumsy form of poultry.
-- A S Byatt, "The Conjugial Angel"
Jorn Barger
> > http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
> >
> >(the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-info
> >page)
>
> No it doesn't.
I got it from Slashdot a day or two ago, and doublechecked it just
before posting it, but they have indeed turned off that feature now.
James Kibo Parry
"sponsored links", i.e. ads]
In alt.fan.dejanews, "Alex Oren" (al...@bigfoot.com) wrote:
>
> Umm... I never noticed their "banners".
> Could you give an example URL?
There's a banner at the top of pretty much every page on Deja.com,
such as the main search page:
http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml
Banners look like this:
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| FIRE YOUR BOSS! CLICK HERE TO GET A NEW JOB |
| in the porn industry |
| |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
We're talking about the links they decided to insert _within_
what you write, not the billboards above it.
In other words, if I were to write this:
-> The people who run DejaNews are lowlifes and should be shot.
...it would tell everyone I wrote this:
-> The people who run <A HREF="http://www.deja.com">DejaNews</A>
-> are low<A HREF="http://www.life-cereal.com">life</A>s and
-> should be <A HREF="http://www.kodak.com">shot</A>.
Jorn Barger (jo...@mcs.com) wrote:
>
> http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
>
> (the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-info page)
I bet three quatloos that it says that most elite super-hackers prefer
the faster kind of modems, 1200 baud, to the lame 300 baud modems.
Ben Wolfson (rumju...@cryptarchy.org) wrote:
>
> No it doesn't.
Indeed it does not for me, either.
Oh no! I just used awkward grammar! I hope DejaNews fixes it
in the improved, enhanced version of this article they're going to
start showing to people a few years from now once they think of
doing that!
Jorn Barger (jo...@mcs.com) wrote:
>
> I got it from Slashdot a day or two ago, and doublechecked it just
> before posting it, but they have indeed turned off that feature now.
Wow. So for how many hours did they have that "feature" before
they yanked it away in the face of an avalance of bad publicity?
Maybe it suddenly dawned on them that this was a really bad idea,
as it would have done if they had noticed that the feature they
were imitating of their main competitor (Remarq decided to stick
links into other people's writings a while ago) drew a massive
fireball of complaints when they turned it on.
"Hey! They have something we can copy! Let's not find out how well
it went over, let's just copy it and then we'll find out on our own
if it was a bad idea before we ripped it off!"
-- K.
I think there's a market for
a Web browser that would
simply not show any links, ever.
The Avocado Avenger
>
> [on DejaNews making words in other people's writings into
> "sponsored links", i.e. ads]
> Jorn Barger (jo...@mcs.com) wrote:
> >
> > I got it from Slashdot a day or two ago, and doublechecked it just
> > before posting it, but they have indeed turned off that feature now.
>
> Wow. So for how many hours did they have that "feature" before
> they yanked it away in the face of an avalance of bad publicity?
Unfortunately, someone else seems to have found a link to the
post that works and has all the click-ads.
I've been sobbing in my soup all week because I just *know* my
'handle' will be 'linked' to all sorts of perverted avocado 'stores'.
IT WAS A COLOR!!! NEVER A FOODSTUFF!!!1 YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!
> Maybe it suddenly dawned on them that this was a really bad idea,
> as it would have done if they had noticed that the feature they
> were imitating of their main competitor (Remarq decided to stick
> links into other people's writings a while ago) drew a massive
> fireball of complaints when they turned it on.
>
> "Hey! They have something we can copy! Let's not find out how well
> it went over, let's just copy it and then we'll find out on our own
> if it was a bad idea before we ripped it off!"
Generally, I find Deja marginally tolerable. Their mail service
sucks, sometimes taking over 15 hours for e-mail to arrive, but it's
nice to have the anonymous address so my shell account stays s3kr1t.
I spelled it s3kr1t so no one would link my post to any deodorant
ads. Chyx will get this, guys may not, but other words we might
want to avoid are "always", "stay free", and "summer's" and/or "eve".
Yuck. That's not really very funny.
--
Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * "Life is a tale told by an idiot
stac...@my-deja.com * Full of sound and fury,
Beable van Polasm
> Ben Wolfson <rumju...@cryptarchy.org> wrote:
> > > http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
> > >
> > >(the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-info
> > >page)
> >
>
> I got it from Slashdot a day or two ago, and doublechecked it just
> before posting it, but they have indeed turned off that feature now.
No they haven't. Try THIS one:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
I ARE A G33NYUS!! Also, I am thinking of purchasing these products:
a modem, an armoured personnel carrier, a tactical thermonukular
device, a tin of two-fruits, a can opener, a computer, a television,
a VCR (aka video cassette recorder), a station sedan, a laptop, a
notebook, a usenet server, an Olympic Games, a corporate jet, some
razor blade tyres (aka tires), a DVD drive, a CD-RW drive, some
bogus hyperlinking for this article, an aircraft carrier, a semiautomatic
rifle, a helicopter, a disk drive, a toaster, some classified documents,
and a PUPPY!!! I hope that this gets me some hyperlinking.
Jorn Barger
> There's a banner at the top of pretty much every page on Deja.com,
Strangely enough, no matter where on the site I checked, I found only
four different banners. (Apparently they invested their resources so
heavily in Precision Buying they had nothing left over for an ad-sales
team.)
Counting the banner ads accurately required (I thought!) visiting the
Precision Buying Service for the first time in a year-plus, and it was
pretty scary to see how many products there still have so few ratings
they're labelled 'Insufficient Data'.
Also, I wonder how long it will be before they notice every single link
from the ratings pages to individual product pages leads to a
404-message?
duk...@yahoo.ca
>These hyperlinks are not sponsored advertisements, but are simply
>pointers to other areas of Deja.com which we hope you will find relevant and
>helpful as you are reading Usenet discussions.
Really?
Mr. Greek
Durex Shiek Condoms
Coca-Cola
Ultramatic Adjustable Bed
Sleep Country
Wendy's
Okay, now to see if it works!
--
duk...@yahoo.ca * Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.
shenanigander
Jorn Barger <jo...@mcs.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for your recent e-mail concerning the new feature in Deja.com's
>> Usenet Discussion Service that detects product names in Usenet messages and
>> hyperlinks these names to related content in Deja.com's Precision Buying
>> pointers to other areas of Deja.com which we hope you will find relevant and
>> helpful as you are reading Usenet discussions.
Others have pointed out that RemarQ did this first (shame, shame on
you, deja.com! first you fuck up the IPO, now this). What's really
missing here, though, is some selfrighteous deja.com engineering twink
defending both the technology and the decision to use it. Double
shame on you!
rone
hi, mike belshe! how are your CPTH corporate masters?
--
WILL BATMAN TAKE PORT OUT, STARBOARD HOME, OR WILL HE STAY FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL
KNOWLEDGE? WILL ROBIN ESCAPE THE CLUTCHES OF THE DASTARDLY FOLK ETYMOLOGER OR
WILL HE BE FORCED TO READ WILLIAM SAFIRE'S OLD NIXON SPEECHES? - Kibo
Joe Manfre
>What's really
>missing here, though, is some selfrighteous deja.com engineering twink
>defending both the technology and the decision to use it. Double
>shame on you!
That reminds me. Whatever happened to Canter & Siegel? I've
barely heard any mention of them in years, but it used to be
that you couldn't pace through any part of Usenet without
tripping over someone's invective aimed at them.
JM
--
Joe Manfre, Hyattsville, Maryland. http://manfre-land.com
"It had become a little too uncomfortable for them sitting on
all that classified data once they had been explicitly fingered."
-- Carol Paliwoda, regarding "those bastards"
Ted Frank
>http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
>
>I ARE A G33NYUS!! Also, I am thinking of purchasing these products:
>a modem, an armoured personnel carrier, a tactical thermonukular
>device, a tin of two-fruits, a can opener, a computer, a television,
>a VCR (aka video cassette recorder), a station sedan, a laptop, a
>notebook, a usenet server, an Olympic Games, a corporate jet, some
>razor blade tyres (aka tires), a DVD drive, a CD-RW drive, some
>bogus hyperlinking for this article, an aircraft carrier, a semiautomatic
>rifle, a helicopter, a disk drive, a toaster, some classified documents,
>and a PUPPY!!! I hope that this gets me some hyperlinking.
http://x56.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=648847194
So far, no, but it would've been very funny.
--
"The Grimace. Barney. Jonestown Koolaid. I fear purple."
- SarahAnn Hazelwood
"Mmmm...purple."
- Homer Simpson
David Pacheco
said:
> That reminds me. Whatever happened to Canter & Siegel?
They're with me now.
-dp.
shenanigander
Have you tried something as simple as, say, a Google search?
rone
David DeLaney
And also with me.
Dave "requiescat in pacem doidiem" DeLaney
Richard Price
jo...@mcs.com (Jorn Barger) wrote:
> Ben Wolfson <rumju...@cryptarchy.org> wrote:
> > > http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=544148067
> > >
> > >(the word 'modem' links to an utterly, utterly, utterly lame modem-
info
> > >page)
> >
> > No it doesn't.
>
> I got it from Slashdot a day or two ago, and doublechecked it just
> before posting it, but they have indeed turned off that feature now.
They do appear to have turned off the "Products at a glance" feature
entirely for Deja Classic (/=dnc) mode - permanently I hope, since it
should never have been there in the first place IMHO. It's still there
in the non-Classic mode, though. Here's a couple of examples with
particularly daft links from strings which aren't even words:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=647960359
"na" links to Microsoft Project 2000
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=646921417
"1)),0" links to Cognos Visualizer
Richard Price