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PATRICK HUMPHREY - HOUSTON, PROCHOICE, LIBERTARIAN STALKER

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Rack Jite

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Sep 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/29/97
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Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
stalk me at home.

Mr. Humphrey refuses to stop under any condition. Recently I
unilaterally stated that I would remove his name from my website, and
make no mention of him anywhere at all to see if he would reciprocate,
stop this battle and prove to everyone he is not the stalker I claim
him to be. The day after I publicly posted that message, he was
replying to my issue oriented messages including what he presumes my
name and where I live, and has proceeded to do so over the two weeks
since.

Though Rice University has sent me a letter of apology for the actions
of Mr. Humphrey and Rice Legal Department no longer allows him to use
his employee account as a base for stalking me, he now uses a paid
service to carry on his pyschotic obsession with me. As most anything
goes with ISPs, it leaves me few options to deal with this little
netscab. As literally thousands of liberals have been intimitated out
of the political newsgroups because of this onerous game, I am going
to fight it.

Though I cannot reply with this message every time he invades my
privacy (which would be serveral times a day more days than not), I
will post these IN CONTEXT direct quotes of his a few times a week
until he stops.

Note that these few quotes below are only about .01% of the totality
of the crap this Squealing little stalker has been so proudly posting
for what he readily admits is FOURTEEN YEARS.

I know this is irritating to many of you, but it is the only way I
have of fighting back. This issue of privacy is the central issue of
the net. All he has to do is stop and I will never address, mention or
think about him ever again. But sadly, he is obsessed to such a
degree, it is impossible for him. If this irritates you all you have
to do is tell him to stop the stalking and the squealing and it's
over.

A few direct quotes from the pro-Choice, Houston Libertarian, Squealer
and Loser Patrick Humphrey confirming his threats and stalking:

--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
with a pulled pin' Humphrey

--PLH, and people wonder why I occasionally pedal by Dahlman's house
to give him the one-finger salute...

Oh...and you need to trim the mustache...
--Patrick L. ‘El Lago, April 9, about 14:35 remember me?’ Humphrey"

You need to clean up the toys in your driveway...
--Patrick L. "Dave can't stand that I know where he lives" Humphrey

I guess it's just an amazing coincidence, then, that the pictures on
your home page just happen to bear an uncanny resemblance to the
fellow out in front of your listed address when I came down the street
one afternoon three weeks ago...
--Patrick L. 'coming by again in two weeks' Humphrey

"I don't think so, because you don't resemble me at all...and that
much I know from personal experience, after two weekends ago.
--Patrick L. ‘it was a worthwhile 88 miles spent’ Humphrey

Be sure to understand this is about the sixth occasion this squealer
has been to what he presumes to be my home... Rack Jite

---Try *fourth* --Patrick L. 'bout time to put on the Spandex and
pedal over that way :-)’Humphrey"

The tire swing in front of your house...
--Patrick L. "still pedaling" Humphrey

Thanks to a gutless bastard in the Houston suburbs named David F.
Dahlman, you mean. And I never claimed there was a tire swing in your
front yard, liar. Your _neighbor's_ yard, yes -- and that was
something like three years ago, too. Are you going to state that your
yard is in the same state of being cluttered now as it was three years
ago?--Patrick L. "14 days, tick tick tick, heh heh" Humphrey

I've pedaled by his house three or four times, and one time, just by
dumb luck, he and his family happened to be outside.
--Patrick L. Humphrey

--Patrick L. better hide, 'Shawn' -- less than two months to my visit
to Austin :-) Humphrey

Hey, S. Shawn...now that you're in the DFW area, you'll have to hide
under your bed again, because we're going to be up there next weekend
--PLH, six days and rolling

---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--Patrick L. Humphrey

---No, it's more like you're in your own little world out there in the
Houston suburbs. --Patrick L. "17 days and pedaling" Humphrey

--Patrick L. "I think I just guaranteed myself a smooth pedal down to
the Island" Humphrey

It figures a foreigner like you couldn't.... Personally, I'd just as
soon you go back to whatever underprivileged neighborhood in the U.S.
you got booted out of -- the farther away from Texas, the better.
That is _my_ opinion.
--Patrick L. and it can be yours, but it'll cost ya big time Humphrey

You lie like a rug, "Shawn". Pointing out that Dahlman lives across
town from me -- so what? ...I have NEVER posted the name on his
mailbox (another interesting claim, since you think his mailbox is on
the street, and it isn't -- no one's is, in that area, and in a LOT of
areas all over Houston), and I pointed out the appearance of his yard
*two years ago*, Get back to me when you can write something
original, "Shawn". Meanwhile, go cower under your bed, since I'm only
37 days away from being in the same city as you.
--Patrick L. "just thought I'd say that" Humphrey

Besides, I'm going to be pedaling by, less than five miles away, on
the morning of March 30

--Patrick L. "pull!" Humphrey

--PLH, I'll deal with Shawn on the 30th, heh heh heh

Better run and hide, S. Shawn. I may be in -your- neighborhood.
--PLH, I've got a Bat Attitude.

It's funny, though, that at one time, Jimbo had FOUR phone lines
listed under his name at one address -- and then, all of a
sudden, he's down to ONE line at a different address that is actually
an apartment complex. Yeah, I know a LOT of people who move an entire
family from a house to a cracker-box apartment...--PLH

---
If you are interested in where Mr. Humphrey sits at hockey games, what
intersections he passes on his bike, his obsession with stalking
liberals and Prolifers or the names of any of the little gang of
losers who defend his 14 years of stalking and squealing, just punch
his name into DEJA.

Picture and more info on this abject loser at:
http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/squealer.htm

---
I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
--------------------------------------------
Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/

Ray Fischer

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Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
>following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing

Are you _still_ following him around whining about how he's stalking
you? Ignore him and he'll go away.

--
Ray Fischer
r...@netcom.com

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <343053...@ihatespam.com> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> writes:

>Rack Jite wrote:

>> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
>> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
>> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
>> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
>> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
>> stalk me at home.

><spam deleted>

>How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
>Patrick, at least post something original.

What, Dave Dahlman? *original*? He hasn't had an original thing to say about
me (or anything truthful, come to think of it) for going on fourteen years,
now. Just let worldnet.att.net know about his inappropriate crossposting if
he gets obnoxious about it, even if that gives him the attention he obviously
can't get in any other way...

--PLH, Dave makes a good football in Usenet, but not much else

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
> stalk me at home.
<spam deleted>

How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
Patrick, at least post something original.

--
Come to... the glamorous world of Michael Pollack.
http://www.concentric.net/~slaroche/POLLACK.HTM

Patrick L. Humphrey

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97
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In article <3440b90d....@netnews.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

>*Rack Jite wrote:

>*> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
>*> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
>*> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
>*> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
>*> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
>*> stalk me at home.
>*<spam deleted>

>*How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
>*Patrick, at least post something original.

>Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.

...or until you run away and then claim you were thrown out of this newsgroup.
(After all, this is hardly the first time you've made such "promises", Dave.)
In other words, you're admitting that you *can't* not respond to me. Thanks
for coming clean on that, so people can handle you accordingly.

So, tell me, Dave -- what are you going to do on the afternoon of October 19?
There will be something like a thousand people on bikes passing by within a
mile of your little neighborhood...should I wear Kevlar, just in case you
decide one of them is actually me? :-)

--PLH, who has a feeling that hell is about to experience a cold wave

Sunshine

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In article <3440b90d....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...
>
>*Rack Jite wrote:
>*>
>*> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has
been
>*> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
>*> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may
live.

>*> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
>*> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
>*> stalk me at home.
>*<spam deleted>
>*
>*How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
>*Patrick, at least post something original.
>
>Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.
>
>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

Jack

I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How are
things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick on
that nice Mr. Humphery again?

Sunshine

--
Sunshine for Women (and Men Who Love Women)
http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/main.html
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Rack Jite

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Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

*Rack Jite wrote:
*>
*> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
*> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
*> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
*> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
*> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
*> stalk me at home.
*<spam deleted>
*
*How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
*Patrick, at least post something original.

Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.

---

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <60shva$q...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) writes:

(to our good buddy, Dave Dahlman :)

>Jack

>I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
>almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How are
>things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick on
>that nice Mr. Humphery again?

Don't worry -- even if he does, there's not much he could do to me in any
case. Now that it's October, though -- what *can* we get him for his
birthday? :-)

--PLH, I -would- have to be out of town on the 31st, too

Lou Minatti

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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A new garden gnome--Sparky Jr.!

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <343236...@ihatespam.com> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> writes:

>Patrick L. Humphrey wrote:

>> In article <60shva$q...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) writes:

>> (to our good buddy, Dave Dahlman :)

>> >I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
>> >almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How are
>> >things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick on
>> >that nice Mr. Humphery again?

>> Don't worry -- even if he does, there's not much he could do to me in any
>> case. Now that it's October, though -- what *can* we get him for his
>> birthday? :-)

>A new garden gnome--Sparky Jr.!

Damn. Why didn't *I* think of that?

Maybe a new garden hose, too...guess we should meet out at the Garden Ridge
Pottery out your way and do this right, eh? :-)

--PLH, of course, we could always go for a few flamingos, too...

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <3432EF...@ihatespam.com> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> writes:

>Rack Jite wrote:

[...]

>> Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.

Dyslexics of the world, untie!

>So you that you're abusing Usenet, annoying others in the newsgroups you
>participate in and wasting bandwidth?

Admit it? Hell, he's PROUD of it!

--PLH, how else could he get any attention?

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...
>
> *Rack Jite wrote:
> *>
> *> Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
> *> following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
> *> little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
> *> It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
> *> privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
> *> stalk me at home.
> *<spam deleted>
> *
> *How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
> *Patrick, at least post something original.
>
> Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.

So you that you're abusing Usenet, annoying others in the newsgroups you


participate in and wasting bandwidth?

--

Come to... the glamorous world of Michael Pollack.
http://www.concentric.net/~slaroche/POLLACK.HTM

"Nah nah nah, gonna have a good time!"

Rack Jite

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r...@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) was saying...

*Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
*>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
*>following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
*
*Are you _still_ following him around whining about how he's stalking
*you? Ignore him and he'll go away.
*Ray Fischer

RAY! Didn't you read the message? I just did ignore him for 10 days to
show yall that he doesn't go away! I have ignored him for months at a
time, for a year, nothing works, he replies to my messages that have
nothing to do with him, HE JUST DID IT HERE! Seldom if ever do his
replies have nothing to do with any issue other than what my name may


be and where I may live.

This was to show you that it just happened RIGHT HERE in front of yer
nose. And you still deny it. This is what I mean, everyone who has
come to the defense of this shitcan little squealing stalker has been
a whinney little netscab LOSER, like you...

Patrick L. Humphrey

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>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>r...@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) was saying...

>*Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>*>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
>*>following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing



>*Are you _still_ following him around whining about how he's stalking
>*you? Ignore him and he'll go away.
>*Ray Fischer

>RAY! Didn't you read the message? I just did ignore him for 10 days to
>show yall that he doesn't go away! I have ignored him for months at a
>time, for a year, nothing works, he replies to my messages that have
>nothing to do with him, HE JUST DID IT HERE! Seldom if ever do his

>replies have nothing to do with any issue other than what my name may


>be and where I may live.

I reply to posts of yours that have nothing to do with me? Oh, the humanity.
Did it ever occur to you, Dave, that you don't determine who responds to what
you post? That's a pretty pathetic excuse -- even for you. While we're on
that tack, though, if you've ignored me for such long periods of time, how is
it I was supposedly "following" you around? That's an interesting claim to
make, if for no other reason than that I made my first post to a Usenet
newsgroup five years before you showed up. (Please cut out the patent
bullshit about what your name *may* be, and just own up to the fact that you
can't stand having someone around who was present when you, for once, had
enough guts to actually use your real name. You've wasted fourteen years
tilting at a non-existent windmill -- are you proud of that?)

>This was to show you that it just happened RIGHT HERE in front of yer
>nose. And you still deny it. This is what I mean, everyone who has
>come to the defense of this shitcan little squealing stalker has been
>a whinney little netscab LOSER, like you...

That's really funny, Dave -- from what I've seen, people weren't standing up
for me, just asking you why you're so obsessed with me you can't see
straight. I'm sure you've really chastised Ray, though -- after all, he's
only been around here since a few years before you showed up, so it's only
natural that you'd assume he's in league with me.

Oh, well...have fun on the 19th. I'll be sure and wave at you from atop the
bridge. :-)

--PLH, one of the thousand-plus on bikes who will be pedaling through the area
that day

Patrick L. Humphrey

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>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

>*> *How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about

>*> *Patrick, at least post something original.

>*> Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.

>*So you that you're abusing Usenet, annoying others in the newsgroups you
>*participate in and wasting bandwidth?

>Because at present, with the squealing, stalking and invasion of
>privacy laws being mostly ineffective (though that is changing) I have
>no other way of fighting you little netscab losers on USENET.

How am I invading your privacy, Dave? All I've done is state what you
yourself provided, and what is a matter of public record. Your whole "privacy
for me but not for anyone who disagrees with me!" shtick is pure bullshit.
Face it -- you want to silence me because I remember you posting under your
real name fourteen years ago.

>And for every message of mine you claim is wasting bandwidth, you, the
>Stalker and your little gang of losers waste more bandwidth in reply
>than I do in posting... So you don't give a rats ass about that at all
>do ya Lou. What you care about is when my birthday is, where I live,
>what my name may be, when Humphrey is coming by my home again and
>reenforcing your little gang of netscab squealers... It's so cool...
>Yer so cool... :)

You're a goddamned idiot, Dave. I couldn't care less who you are or what you
are -- but the fact that you're so paranoid about anyone knowing who you are,
that it's driven you to lie, and lie, and keep on lying for fourteen years,
until you've reached the point where you're proud of your lying, gives me a
little incentive to merely mention simple public facts about you and watch you
jerk your knee so hard you knock some more of your own teeth loose.
Meanwhile, out here in reality, the cold, hard facts are: there is no little
gang of "netscab squealers" -- that exists soloely in your diseased
imagination, Dave; no one gives a damn about you or your mental problems, at
least not as far as Usenet is concerned; and since when did I say I'd be
stupid enough to be coming by your house? I stated the fact that there will
be quite a few people pedaling through in your vicinity on the 19th -- but
where did I state that the ride route would be right down your little street?
I didn't. (Maybe that's because it isn't, eh?) Come on, Dave -- you make
noises about shooting me (or who you think is me) if you see me pedaling by,
and you think I'm going to pedal down a street on which a lunatic like *that*
lives?

October 19 is 17 days away, Dave. With any luck, maybe you'll be living in
Rusk by then.

--PLH, who's out to pedal, not dodge bullets

Rack Jite

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*> *How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
*> *Patrick, at least post something original.
*>
*> Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.
*
*So you that you're abusing Usenet, annoying others in the newsgroups you
*participate in and wasting bandwidth?

Because at present, with the squealing, stalking and invasion of
privacy laws being mostly ineffective (though that is changing) I have
no other way of fighting you little netscab losers on USENET.

And for every message of mine you claim is wasting bandwidth, you, the


Stalker and your little gang of losers waste more bandwidth in reply
than I do in posting... So you don't give a rats ass about that at all
do ya Lou. What you care about is when my birthday is, where I live,
what my name may be, when Humphrey is coming by my home again and
reenforcing your little gang of netscab squealers... It's so cool...
Yer so cool... :)

---

Rack Jite

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suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...


*I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
*almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How are
*things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick on
*that nice Mr. Humphery again?

Why do you and the Stalker care when my birthday is, how old I am,
what my name may be or where I live? Why do you think you and the
Stalker spend most of your time posting that information while I don't
care one wit what your real name may be, where you live, how old you
may be or when your birthday is?

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...
>
> *> *How many times are you gonna post this? If you're gonna whine about
> *> *Patrick, at least post something original.
> *>
> *> Unitl either the squealing stalker walks away or hell feezes over.
> *
> *So you that you're abusing Usenet, annoying others in the newsgroups you
> *participate in and wasting bandwidth?
>
> Because at present, with the squealing, stalking and invasion of
> privacy laws being mostly ineffective (though that is changing) I have
> no other way of fighting you little netscab losers on USENET.

I think you're just spamming for your website. Fill those orders, Sue! I
find it interesting that Patrick hadn't posted a thing to you on
houston.general for almost 2 weeks, then all of a sudden here comes
another robo-spam from you. At least make your robo-spams original.



> And for every message of mine you claim is wasting bandwidth, you, the
> Stalker and your little gang of losers waste more bandwidth in reply
> than I do in posting... So you don't give a rats ass about that at all
> do ya Lou. What you care about is when my birthday is, where I live,
> what my name may be, when Humphrey is coming by my home again and

What do you mean what it "may" be? Your real name is the worst-kept
secret on Usenet.

> reenforcing your little gang of netscab squealers... It's so cool...
> Yer so cool... :)

And yer spamming schtick is so boring.

Ray Fischer

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Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>r...@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) was saying...
>*Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>*>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
>*>following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
>*


>*Are you _still_ following him around whining about how he's stalking
>*you? Ignore him and he'll go away.
>*Ray Fischer
>
>RAY! Didn't you read the message? I just did ignore him for 10 days to
>show yall that he doesn't go away! I have ignored him for months at a
>time, for a year, nothing works, he replies to my messages that have
>nothing to do with him, HE JUST DID IT HERE!

Which doubtless explains why I've seen several threads started by you
complaining about Humphrey.

--
Ray Fischer
r...@netcom.com

Sunshine

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In article <343b95a2...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
>
>*I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
>*almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How
are
>*things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick
on
>*that nice Mr. Humphery again?
>
>Why do you and the Stalker care when my birthday is, how old I am,
>what my name may be or where I live?

I just thought you'd like your net friends to help you celebrate the
annual milestone in your life. I enjoy getting birthday greetings from
my friends. Why don't you like getting birthday greeting about yours?
Are you sensitive about your age or something?

> Why do you think you and the
>Stalker spend most of your time posting

Really, I don't spend "most of my time posting" anything about you,
Jack.


> that information while I don't
>care one wit what your real name may be, where you live, how old you
>may be or when your birthday is?
>

Does this mean you aren't sending me birthday greeting for my birthday?

>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

Sunshine

Rack Jite

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r...@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) was saying...

*Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
*>r...@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) was saying...


*>*Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
*

*>*>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
*>*>following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
*>*


*>*Are you _still_ following him around whining about how he's stalking

*>*you? Ignore him and he'll go away.
*>*Ray Fischer
*>
*>RAY! Didn't you read the message? I just did ignore him for 10 days to
*>show yall that he doesn't go away! I have ignored him for months at a
*>time, for a year, nothing works, he replies to my messages that have
*>nothing to do with him, HE JUST DID IT HERE!
*
*Which doubtless explains why I've seen several threads started by you
*complaining about Humphrey.
*
*--
*Ray Fischer
*r...@netcom.com

Yer so screwed up you glow Ray... :)
Yer a shoe in for the netscab crowd though hey?

Rack Jite

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Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

*I think you're just spamming for your website. Fill those orders, Sue! I
*find it interesting that Patrick hadn't posted a thing to you on
*houston.general for almost 2 weeks, then all of a sudden here comes
*another robo-spam from you. At least make your robo-spams original.

Thats a lie and you are a liar.

*> And for every message of mine you claim is wasting bandwidth, you, the
*> Stalker and your little gang of losers waste more bandwidth in reply
*> than I do in posting... So you don't give a rats ass about that at all
*> do ya Lou. What you care about is when my birthday is, where I live,
*> what my name may be, when Humphrey is coming by my home again and

*What do you mean what it "may" be? Your real name is the worst-kept
*secret on Usenet.

*> reenforcing your little gang of netscab squealers... It's so cool...
*> Yer so cool... :)

*And yer spamming schtick is so boring.

If you really gave a damn about spam Lou, you wouldn't perpetuate it
by replying to every single instance of it to keep it going.
Would ya? And if its so boring why are you not only reading it,
quoting it, but replying to it? Are you really as stupid as you
present yourself to be?

Rack Jite

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Gotta keep the thread going...
Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor plant.

Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

*In article <343b95a2...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
*rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
*>
*>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
*>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
*>
*>
*>*I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
*>*almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How
*are
*>*things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick
*on
*>*that nice Mr. Humphery again?
*>
*>Why do you and the Stalker care when my birthday is, how old I am,
*>what my name may be or where I live?
*
*I just thought you'd like your net friends to help you celebrate the
*annual milestone in your life. I enjoy getting birthday greetings from
*my friends. Why don't you like getting birthday greeting about yours?
*Are you sensitive about your age or something?
*
*> Why do you think you and the
*>Stalker spend most of your time posting
*
*Really, I don't spend "most of my time posting" anything about you,
*Jack.
*
*
*> that information while I don't
*>care one wit what your real name may be, where you live, how old you
*>may be or when your birthday is?
*>
*
*Does this mean you aren't sending me birthday greeting for my birthday?
*
*>---
*> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
*>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
*> --------------------------------------------
*>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
*>
*
*Sunshine
*
*--
*Sunshine for Women (and Men Who Love Women)
*http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/main.html
*remove antispam. from e-mail address to reply or
*just enter suns...@pinn.net
*

Rack Jite

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Lou Minatti <slar...@concentric.net> was saying...

*Rack Jite wrote:
*>
*> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

*> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...
*>
*> *I think you're just spamming for your website. Fill those orders, Sue! I
*> *find it interesting that Patrick hadn't posted a thing to you on
*> *houston.general for almost 2 weeks, then all of a sudden here comes
*> *another robo-spam from you. At least make your robo-spams original.
*>
*> Thats a lie and you are a liar.

*2. Patrick has indeed been silent for almost 2 weeks on houston.general,
*until you came along and posted your robo-spam. Others have also
*commented on this.

That is the lie. I did this specifically to show all of you little
netscabs that he would not stay silent that he would reply to any
issue oriented message I posted with his squealing and he did sp right
here in front of all of you. You are a liar.

heres are two that I saved just in case you would lie about this:

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Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: Re: Ron Paul
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rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>The much ballyhooed move of Representative Greg Laughlin from the
>Democrats to the Republicans after the Gingrich Revolution began, has
>now become reminiscent of X-Governor Buddy Roemer of Louisiana who
>showed that becoming a political traitor does not always bode well
>with the voters.

It obviously doesn't sit well with one Dave Dahlman of the greater
Houston
area. I don't think you're too interested in Laughlin's troubles,
though,
given your track record:

>Last month Laughlin lost the GOP primary here in Texas to Ron Paul.

Last month? The GOP primary was in May 1996 -- 16 months ago. What
planet
*are* you living on, Dave?

>Even though both father and son Shrubs of Texas, Noot, and the GOP
>loudly backed Laughlin. Remember Ron Paul? Another political traitor
>who quit Congress in the late 80's (because he thought the GOP too
>liberal) to become the presidential candidate of the Libertarian
>Party. Indeed, how could Texans pass on a guy who is a rabid pro-Life
>libertarian (strange as that may seem to those not schooled in LP
>irrationality) and all around right-wing bigoted moron.

Still sticking to your lies, Dave? What was Paul's position on
abortion,
anyway? He made no bones about being pro-life -- but did he favor
using the
power of the state to forbid it to women, or was that his *personal*
opinion?
Let's see if you have the balls to honestly answer that question, eh?

>My favorite crap from Ron Paul is his accusation that President
>Clinton is a "cocaine addict" which he says "explains a lot about
>him." No Ron, that kind of flat out libel explains more about you
than
>it does anyone else.

Would you mind providing a cite for this alleged quote? Anyone can
put a few
words between CHR$(34)s and claim someone said something...so where's
your
proof?

>Here are a few of this Libertarian Republican's views on race:

Libertarians aren't Republicans, Dave, no matter how desperately you
want to
have us believe they are.

>"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how
>unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

Do you have an actual cite for this alleged quote?

>"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks
>have sensible political opinions, i.e., support the free market,
>individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

Once again, do you have a cite for this alleged quote?

>"Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... I
>think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that
>city [Washington] are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

Once again, do you have a cite for this alleged quote?

>"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of
>23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been
>raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big,
>strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated
>as such."

Once again, do you have a cite for this alleged quote?

>"By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the
>Israeli government and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to
>stifle criticism."

(All together now!) Once again, do you have a cite for this alleged
quote?

>Paul's district is so mud dumb conservative, he won the seat easily.
>Appendum: Paul's district covers Brazoria County which made national
>headlines lately with the video showing the abuse of prisoners.

It also poked its way into YOUR part of Harris County before the
re-districting...could that be why you're trotting out this particular
canned
rant again, 16 months later?

>(c)Conservatively Incorrect #38 July '96

Great timeliness, Dave. I can see why the Harris County Public
Library System
subsvcribes to your rag. (Or at least so you claim.) But, tell
me...why did
you post this to houston.general, and the same identical canned rant
separately to three other newsgroups? Worried that your ISP might
start
looking into your net abuse?

--PLH, sometimes, you gotta wonder
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In article <34311883...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

>*We end up with these quandries when governments get in the business
of
>*counting people based on inconsequential things such as skin color.
It's
>*meaningless, but it gives bureaucrats something to do.

>The foremost lie from the Right. Done well too, twice there!

Hey, Dave, here's something different for you to do: demonstrate that
Lou's
opinion is a lie. (After all, you're known for being a rabid fan of
such
quixotic challenges.)

>Race has been the driving negative force in this nation's past and
>present. Our greatest war with more men dying than any other
concerned
>it. Slavery and Apartheid have been the single most immoral factor of
>American history.

Could it be possible that that's not exactly fact, but rather the
interpretation of one Dave Dahlman?

>We complain about public schools... Which schools, attended by mostly
>what color students? We talk about poverty... Where is it most
>pervasive and what color are they? We complain about crime, violence
>and drivebys... Where is that happening and what color are both the
>victims and perpetrators?

Why don't you tell us what you think the answers to all of your
"questions"
are first, Dave. After all, you're not known for asking any questions
you
haven't already assumed the answer for. Some of us know that well,
from
experience. (Just as a clue: what about the public schools in places
like,
say, Sioux Falls? What color predominates in the public-school
population
there? Careful...I *know* what the answer is. I'm not too sure
you'll admit
to the right answer in this instance, though.) Why are YOU so
preoccupied
with color, anyway? Most people I rub elbows with on a daily basis
have
learned to find more important things to be concerned with than what
color
someone is. I know it hasn't meant a whole lot to me for quite a few
years.
(Given your penchant for distortions, I'll say that I'm *not* saying
that
people of any given color don't mean much to me, but then, only
someone with a
set agenda like yours would be willing to interpret it that way,
anyway.)

>When the doorbell rings at a white door and it opens to a black face,
>what is the first word that comes to mind? "black". When the doorbell
>rings at a black door and it opens to a white face, what is the first
>word that comes to mind? "white"

Uh, Dave...did it ever occur to you that maybe that's just YOU that
reacts
that way? We don't all share your particular obsessions, thank "Bob".

>Race is 'meaningless' and race is 'inconsequential'.
>What a yuck...

That's what you usually say to anything that's too laden with common
sense for
you to accept.

>There are two overriding problems in America today. Racism and the
>growing disparity of wealth. And the conservatives and republicans
>RIGHT UP FRONT MAKING NO BONES ABOUT IT are in the business of making
>both worse. Proud of it too hey? :)

The increasingly uneven distribution of wealth may be a problem, but
what's
your solution? Take it away from those who have, and give to those
who
haven't? When you do that, what happens to the incentive to do
better?
As for racism, it's not dead yet, but it's a whole lot less virulent
than it
was in my childhood 30-odd years ago, I'd say. Attitudes that were
far too
common when I was growing up in Oklahoma would be met with outrage
today --
and I think that's a good thing.
As for "conservatives and republicans" allegedly doing their best to
make both
problems worse, you might want to try offering a little actual
evidence for
once. People are wise to your tactics by now, Dave.

>250 years of slavery, 100 years of Aparthied... Putting blacks way
>behind the starting line whites are at. How to compensate?
>Reperatations? 40 acres and a mule? Balkanization in to black
>homelands? No, a simple thing to try and move them up so they are on
>the same starting point. Affirmative Action for example.

...which in effect states that discrimination is fine and dandy *if*
it's
directed at one particular race. You're for ending discrimination --
by using
even *more* discrimination? I hate to tell you, Dave, but that's what
I'd
call a classic example of a counterproductive solution.

>But no, we are hellbent on removing AA and replacing it with NOTHING.
>Results? Less black faces in colleges, less black faces in law
>schools, less black faces in medical schools, less black faces in
>federal, state and local government jobs, less black faces vying for
>contracts...

Why not wait and see, rather than assuming your answer so you can
berate us
ahead of time, Dave?

>Race is meaningless and inconsequential??!!!
>Geez... What planet do you live on? Yeah, Rightwinglandia... :)

No, I'm in the 20th Century about 75 klicks away from you across town,
Dave.
Of course, you live in one of those little incorporated suburbs that's
historically been just about 100% white -- so would you welcome
non-whites
moving into *your* little enclave?

--PLH, wondering why Dave doesn't live in MY neighborhood, if he's so
concerned about what color people are...he'd find all he wants over
here in
Sharpstown.

--PLH, somehow, I have the feeling he'd rather vote Republican than
live
anywhere *in* the city limits of Houston...
--------

There you are Lou. Proof you are lieing and that you are a liar.
But not good enough for ya is it? :) Extended headers, the whole smear
and you are going to play around it some way or other arent you? :)
So this is that game. VERIFY! FOOTNOTE! EXTENEDED HEADERS YOU NETSCABS
SCREAM! Even if one bothers with it you will still deny it wont you?
So why bother in the first place? Just keep repeating your lies long
enough and they become true hey? Where did ya learn that? Yeah...
You little netscabs are such a yuck...

Patrick L. Humphrey

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>Lou Minatti <slar...@concentric.net> was saying...

[...]



>*2. Patrick has indeed been silent for almost 2 weeks on houston.general,
>*until you came along and posted your robo-spam. Others have also
>*commented on this.

>That is the lie. I did this specifically to show all of you little
>netscabs that he would not stay silent that he would reply to any
>issue oriented message I posted with his squealing and he did sp right
>here in front of all of you. You are a liar.

Right, Dave. I guess you know for a fact that Scott saw either one of those
articles. Trouble is, he might not have. There are some articles that I see
here at io.com that don't show up at rice.edu, and vice versa. But, since he
said I didn't post them but I did, you *know* he's lying?

Thanks for demonstrating once again that you're the one who's got the
obsession problem.

[remaining 330 lines of Dahlman's "proof", deleted]

--PLH, having fun watching Dave contine to haul himself up the gallows

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
<snip>

> *> *I think you're just spamming for your website. Fill those orders, Sue! I
> *> *find it interesting that Patrick hadn't posted a thing to you on
> *> *houston.general for almost 2 weeks, then all of a sudden here comes
> *> *another robo-spam from you. At least make your robo-spams original.
> *>
> *> Thats a lie and you are a liar.

Sell those bumperstickers and subscriptions. Did you get any book offers
yet?



> *2. Patrick has indeed been silent for almost 2 weeks on houston.general,
> *until you came along and posted your robo-spam. Others have also
> *commented on this.
>
> That is the lie. I did this specifically to show all of you little
> netscabs that he would not stay silent that he would reply to any
> issue oriented message I posted with his squealing and he did sp right
> here in front of all of you. You are a liar.
>
> heres are two that I saved just in case you would lie about this:

<posts deleted to save bandwidth>

The first message you posted was indeed 2 weeks old. As for the second
post, yeah, that was from the 28th. He used your real name. Big deal.
Patrick asked some valid questions. That's the one where you said, "When


the doorbell rings at a white door and it opens to a black face, what is

the first word that comes to mind? "black"." Maybe in the "negro"-free
neighborhood you live in. Maybe in your household. But not in mine. Why
don't you just ignore Patrick if he bothers you so much, instead of
sending the same old tired robo-spams? If he's as bad as you say he is,
I'm sure everyone's on your side of this issue. Right?

BTW, why bother saving those posts when you can just go to Dejanews?

And did you get around to answering Patrick's question: Can you verify
those quotes you posted?

> There you are Lou. Proof you are lieing and that you are a liar.
> But not good enough for ya is it? :) Extended headers, the whole smear
> and you are going to play around it some way or other arent you? :)

Sue's getting ready to wet his panties... here it comes....

> So this is that game. VERIFY! FOOTNOTE! EXTENEDED HEADERS YOU NETSCABS
> SCREAM! Even if one bothers with it you will still deny it wont you?
> So why bother in the first place? Just keep repeating your lies long
> enough and they become true hey? Where did ya learn that? Yeah...
> You little netscabs are such a yuck...

I hope you feel better now.


> ---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
> of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
> Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/

Keep on selling those products! <g>

--
The Sonnier Brothers Band:
http://www.concentric.net/~slaroche/SONNIER.HTM

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

>
> *I think you're just spamming for your website. Fill those orders, Sue! I
> *find it interesting that Patrick hadn't posted a thing to you on
> *houston.general for almost 2 weeks, then all of a sudden here comes
> *another robo-spam from you. At least make your robo-spams original.
>
> Thats a lie and you are a liar.

Which point is a lie?

1. You sell your products via your web site - bumperstickers and
newsletters.


2. Patrick has indeed been silent for almost 2 weeks on houston.general,

until you came along and posted your robo-spam. Others have also

commented on this.



> *> And for every message of mine you claim is wasting bandwidth, you, the
> *> Stalker and your little gang of losers waste more bandwidth in reply
> *> than I do in posting... So you don't give a rats ass about that at all
> *> do ya Lou. What you care about is when my birthday is, where I live,
> *> what my name may be, when Humphrey is coming by my home again and
>
> *What do you mean what it "may" be? Your real name is the worst-kept
> *secret on Usenet.
>
> *> reenforcing your little gang of netscab squealers... It's so cool...
> *> Yer so cool... :)
>
> *And yer spamming schtick is so boring.
>
> If you really gave a damn about spam Lou, you wouldn't perpetuate it
> by replying to every single instance of it to keep it going.

I never thought I'd see you admitting that your posts are spams. Well,
at least you're honest about it.

> Would ya? And if its so boring why are you not only reading it,
> quoting it, but replying to it? Are you really as stupid as you
> present yourself to be?

Over the years you and I have corresponded, I'll wager more people have
asked you that question.

Lou Minatti

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Sunshine wrote:
>
> In article <343881df....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
> rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

> >
> >Gotta keep the thread going...
> >Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor plant.
>
> The sentence just above this line is utterly incoherent.

Yup, that's a head-scratcher, alright.

Sunshine

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In article <343881df....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
>Gotta keep the thread going...
>Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor plant.

The sentence just above this line is utterly incoherent.

Sunshine

PS. Does this mean I don't get birthday greetings?

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

--

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*Sunshine wrote:
*>
*> In article <343881df....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
*> rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
*> >
*> >Gotta keep the thread going...
*> >Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor plant.
*>
*> The sentence just above this line is utterly incoherent.
*
*Yup, that's a head-scratcher, alright.
*
*--
*The Sonnier Brothers Band:
*http://www.concentric.net/~slaroche/SONNIER.HTM
*"Nah nah nah, gonna have a good time!"

Either you or Sunshine got anything to talk about but me there Lou?
Sunshine is at the 100% Rack Jite level, you are only at about 88%.
You need to do some catching up Lou!

Let me try that statement again for yall...

Gotta keep the thread going...

Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor mole.

Max

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Sunshine wrote:

> >Let me try that statement again for yall...
> >
> >Gotta keep the thread going...
> >Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor mole.
> >
>

> Actually, I just try to keep the conversation to a level that you can
> understand.

> PS. Does this mean I don't get any birthday greetings?


>
> Sunshine for Women (and Men Who Love Women)
> http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/main.html
> remove antispam. from e-mail address to reply or
> just enter suns...@pinn.net

Checked out your homepage, Sunshine. Very attractive. I am stumped by
one entry under Feminist Forefathers. How does one become more equal?

Max

Sunshine

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In article <615gvi$6...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...
>
>*Sunshine wrote:
>*>
>*> In article <343881df....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>*> rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
>*> >
>*> >Gotta keep the thread going...
>*> >Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor plant.
>*>
>*> The sentence just above this line is utterly incoherent.
>*
>*Yup, that's a head-scratcher, alright.
>*
>*--
>*The Sonnier Brothers Band:
>*http://www.concentric.net/~slaroche/SONNIER.HTM
>*"Nah nah nah, gonna have a good time!"
>
>Either you or Sunshine got anything to talk about but me there Lou?
>Sunshine is at the 100% Rack Jite level, you are only at about 88%.
>You need to do some catching up Lou!
>
>Let me try that statement again for yall...
>
>Gotta keep the thread going...
>Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor mole.
>

Actually, I just try to keep the conversation to a level that you can
understand.

Sunshine

PS. Does this mean I don't get any birthday greetings?

>---


> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

--

Sunshine

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In article <343724...@hal-pc.org>, maxt...@hal-pc.org says...

>
>Sunshine wrote:
>
>> >Let me try that statement again for yall...
>> >
>> >Gotta keep the thread going...
>> >Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor mole.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, I just try to keep the conversation to a level that you
can
>> understand.
>
>> PS. Does this mean I don't get any birthday greetings?
>>
>> Sunshine for Women (and Men Who Love Women)
>> http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/main.html
>> remove antispam. from e-mail address to reply or
>> just enter suns...@pinn.net
>
>Checked out your homepage, Sunshine. Very attractive. I am stumped
by
>one entry under Feminist Forefathers. How does one become more equal?
>
>Max

Thanks for the nice words. I hope you enjoyed feminist forefathers as
well as the rest of the cite.


Sunshine

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <34398255....@netnews.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

[...]

>If you really gave a damn about spam Lou, you wouldn't perpetuate it
>by replying to every single instance of it to keep it going.

>Would ya? And if its so boring why are you not only reading it,
>quoting it, but replying to it? Are you really as stupid as you
>present yourself to be?

Not anywhere as near as stupid as you are, Dave -- you just in effect admitted
that you *are* spamming four newsgroups. I wonder how many copies of this
will be finding their way to ab...@worldnet.att.net?

If you gave a goddamn about anything but your own hallucinations, Dave, you'd
shut up and sell your computer. You're too stupid to do that, though, I
think. Therefore, accept your fate: you're going to silence yourself.
Keep it up, so you can achieve an entry in the Global Killfile...:-)

--PLH, having fun watching Dahlman destroy what's left of his credibility

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <615gvi$6...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

>Either you or Sunshine got anything to talk about but me there Lou?

Dave, you really *are* getting tiresome with your arrogance -- if you don't
want people responding to your posts, why do you post in the first place?

>Sunshine is at the 100% Rack Jite level, you are only at about 88%.
>You need to do some catching up Lou!

You need to burn your computer, Dave, and go out and live in the real world.
(And quit spamming four newsgroups with your scam designed to rake in a few
pennies for your toilet-paper rag.)

>Let me try that statement again for yall...

>Gotta keep the thread going...
>Boy are you either the dumbest broad is what am, or a poor mole.

That's really a crushing indictment, coming from the most blatant hypocrite,
liar, and generally worthless bastard I've encountered in fourteen years
online.

I'm gonna have *fun* with you the 19th, schmuck.

--PLH, kicking the timber out from under the gallows

Rack Jite

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Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.

It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
stalk me at home.

Mr. Humphrey refuses to stop under any condition. Recently I
unilaterally stated that I would remove his name from my website, and
make no mention of him anywhere at all to see if he would reciprocate,
stop this battle and prove to everyone he is not the stalker I claim
him to be. The day after I publicly posted that message, he was
replying to my issue oriented messages including what he presumes my
name and where I live, and has proceeded to do so over the two weeks
since.

Though Rice University has sent me a letter of apology for the actions
of Mr. Humphrey and Rice Legal Department no longer allows him to use
his employee account as a base for stalking me, he now uses a paid
service to carry on his pyschotic obsession with me. As most anything
goes with ISPs, it leaves me few options to deal with this little
netscab. As literally thousands of liberals have been intimitated out
of the political newsgroups because of this onerous game, I am going
to fight it.

Though I cannot reply with this message every time he invades my
privacy (which would be serveral times a day more days than not), I
will post these IN CONTEXT direct quotes of his a few times a week
until he stops.

Note that these few quotes below are only about .01% of the totality
of the crap this Squealing little stalker has been so proudly posting
for what he readily admits is FOURTEEN YEARS.

I know this is irritating to many of you, but it is the only way I
have of fighting back. This issue of privacy is the central issue of
the net. All he has to do is stop and I will never address, mention or
think about him ever again. But sadly, he is obsessed to such a
degree, it is impossible for him. If this irritates you all you have
to do is tell him to stop the stalking and the squealing and it's
over.

A few direct quotes from the pro-Choice, Houston Libertarian, Squealer
and Loser Patrick Humphrey confirming his threats and stalking:

--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
with a pulled pin' Humphrey

--PLH, and people wonder why I occasionally pedal by Dahlman's house
to give him the one-finger salute...

Oh...and you need to trim the mustache...
--Patrick L. ‘El Lago, April 9, about 14:35 remember me?’ Humphrey"

You need to clean up the toys in your driveway...
--Patrick L. "Dave can't stand that I know where he lives" Humphrey

I guess it's just an amazing coincidence, then, that the pictures on
your home page just happen to bear an uncanny resemblance to the
fellow out in front of your listed address when I came down the street
one afternoon three weeks ago...
--Patrick L. 'coming by again in two weeks' Humphrey

"I don't think so, because you don't resemble me at all...and that
much I know from personal experience, after two weekends ago.
--Patrick L. ‘it was a worthwhile 88 miles spent’ Humphrey

Be sure to understand this is about the sixth occasion this squealer
has been to what he presumes to be my home... Rack Jite

---Try *fourth* --Patrick L. 'bout time to put on the Spandex and
pedal over that way :-)’Humphrey"

The tire swing in front of your house...
--Patrick L. "still pedaling" Humphrey

Thanks to a gutless bastard in the Houston suburbs named David F.
Dahlman, you mean. And I never claimed there was a tire swing in your
front yard, liar. Your _neighbor's_ yard, yes -- and that was
something like three years ago, too. Are you going to state that your
yard is in the same state of being cluttered now as it was three years
ago?--Patrick L. "14 days, tick tick tick, heh heh" Humphrey

I've pedaled by his house three or four times, and one time, just by
dumb luck, he and his family happened to be outside.
--Patrick L. Humphrey

--Patrick L. better hide, 'Shawn' -- less than two months to my visit
to Austin :-) Humphrey

Hey, S. Shawn...now that you're in the DFW area, you'll have to hide
under your bed again, because we're going to be up there next weekend
--PLH, six days and rolling

---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--Patrick L. Humphrey

---No, it's more like you're in your own little world out there in the
Houston suburbs. --Patrick L. "17 days and pedaling" Humphrey

--Patrick L. "I think I just guaranteed myself a smooth pedal down to
the Island" Humphrey

It figures a foreigner like you couldn't.... Personally, I'd just as
soon you go back to whatever underprivileged neighborhood in the U.S.
you got booted out of -- the farther away from Texas, the better.
That is _my_ opinion.
--Patrick L. and it can be yours, but it'll cost ya big time Humphrey

You lie like a rug, "Shawn". Pointing out that Dahlman lives across
town from me -- so what? ...I have NEVER posted the name on his
mailbox (another interesting claim, since you think his mailbox is on
the street, and it isn't -- no one's is, in that area, and in a LOT of
areas all over Houston), and I pointed out the appearance of his yard
*two years ago*, Get back to me when you can write something
original, "Shawn". Meanwhile, go cower under your bed, since I'm only
37 days away from being in the same city as you.
--Patrick L. "just thought I'd say that" Humphrey

Besides, I'm going to be pedaling by, less than five miles away, on
the morning of March 30

--Patrick L. "pull!" Humphrey

--PLH, I'll deal with Shawn on the 30th, heh heh heh

Better run and hide, S. Shawn. I may be in -your- neighborhood.
--PLH, I've got a Bat Attitude.

It's funny, though, that at one time, Jimbo had FOUR phone lines
listed under his name at one address -- and then, all of a
sudden, he's down to ONE line at a different address that is actually
an apartment complex. Yeah, I know a LOT of people who move an entire
family from a house to a cracker-box apartment...--PLH

---
If you are interested in where Mr. Humphrey sits at hockey games, what
intersections he passes on his bike, his obsession with stalking
liberals and Prolifers or the names of any of the little gang of
losers who defend his 14 years of stalking and squealing, just punch
his name into DEJA.

Picture and more info on this abject loser at:
http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/squealer.htm

Sunshine

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In article <3438de62...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
>Understand the purpose here.


You just want to pick on that nice Myr. Humphries, shame on you.
And Conservatively Incorrect is such a nice website. Why don't you go
work on it?

Ufoman8576

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i think your both jerks get off the net

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <611d9m$4...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) writes:

>>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

>>*I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for

>>*almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How are
>>*things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to pick on

>>*that nice Mr. Humphery again?

>>Why do you and the Stalker care when my birthday is, how old I am,

>>what my name may be or where I live?

>I just thought you'd like your net friends to help you celebrate the

>annual milestone in your life. I enjoy getting birthday greetings from

>my friends. Why don't you like getting birthday greeting about yours?

>Are you sensitive about your age or something?

If we're to believe the net persona he projects, *everything* bothers Dave,
particularly people who respond to any of his articles. He seems to think
that no one should have the right to comment on his opinions.



>> Why do you think you and the

>>Stalker spend most of your time posting

>Really, I don't spend "most of my time posting" anything about you,

>Jack.

Of course, if he actually bothered to read the three newsgroups he crossposts
his crap to, even he might figure out that he's the one looking really dumb
when he makes such baseless assertions about people he doesn't even know.
Common sense, though, particularly with regard to Usenet activity, never has
been a strong point of Dave's.



>> that information while I don't

>>care one wit what your real name may be, where you live, how old you

>>may be or when your birthday is?

>Does this mean you aren't sending me birthday greeting for my birthday?

Say it isn't so! Does this mean that I won't get anything when my birthday
finally rolls round next year?

--PLH, not knowing how I'll manage to sleep if *that* happens :)

Sunshine

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In article <szk67r8...@pentagon.io.com>, pat...@io.com says...

>
>In article <611d9m$4...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net
(Sunshine) writes:
>
>>In article <343b95a2...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>>rack...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
>>>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>>>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
>>>*I'm so glad you are back. This ng has been without a flame war for
>>>*almost a week! Imagine that. And with your birthday coming up. How
are
>>>*things at conservatively incorrect? I hope you are not going to
pick on
>>>*that nice Mr. Humphery again?
>
>>>Why do you and the Stalker care when my birthday is, how old I am,
>>>what my name may be or where I live?
>
>>I just thought you'd like your net friends to help you celebrate the
>>annual milestone in your life. I enjoy getting birthday greetings
from
>>my friends. Why don't you like getting birthday greeting about yours?
>>Are you sensitive about your age or something?
>
>If we're to believe the net persona he projects, *everything* bothers
Dave,
>particularly people who respond to any of his articles.


Maybe we should accomidate his wishes and just ignore him. Maybe then
he'll go away. What do you think?

> He seems to think
>that no one should have the right to comment on his opinions.
>
>>> Why do you think you and the
>>>Stalker spend most of your time posting
>
>>Really, I don't spend "most of my time posting" anything about you,
>>Jack.
>
>Of course, if he actually bothered to read the three newsgroups he
crossposts
>his crap to, even he might figure out that he's the one looking really
dumb
>when he makes such baseless assertions about people he doesn't even
know.
>Common sense, though, particularly with regard to Usenet activity,
never has
>been a strong point of Dave's.
>
>>> that information while I don't
>>>care one wit what your real name may be, where you live, how old you
>>>may be or when your birthday is?
>
>>Does this mean you aren't sending me birthday greeting for my
birthday?
>
>Say it isn't so! Does this mean that I won't get anything when my
birthday
>finally rolls round next year?

And after I've sent him so many nice birthday wishes. Selfish, isn't
he?

>
>--PLH, not knowing how I'll manage to sleep if *that* happens :)

Sunshine

Sunshine

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In article <lay3eme1a...@cibolo.is.rice.edu>,
pat...@cibolo.rice.edu says...
>
>In article <343eaa1c...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
rack...@worldnet.att.ne

>t (Rack Jite) writes:
>
>>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
>>*>Understand the purpose here.
>
>>*You just want to pick on that nice Myr. Humphries, shame on you.
>>*And Conservatively Incorrect is such a nice website. Why don't you
go
>>*work on it?
>>*Sunshine
>
>>Oh come on Sunshine... There must be one issue, or one message you
can
>>put up here in all these weeks that is not about me...
>>You got it bad girl... :)
>
>You're the one that has it worse than anyone else, Wacky. Are you
really
>asserting that Sunshine hasn't posted anything other than about *you*
"here"?
>You don't even read three of the newsgroups you crosspost your crap
to! If
>you read talk.abortion, you'd know better -- then again, you wouldn't
have the
>opportunity to accuse me of "stalking" you.
>
>--PLH, trust Rack to get the basic facts wrong...then again, he's been
doing
>that for fourteen years, so what else is new?

Yes, if Rack ever visited talk.abortion he would look very foolish for
making this statement, wouldn't he?

Rack - I have news for you. As hard as they may be on you emotionally,
I think about you long enough to post my messages and that's it. I have
better things to do with my time than worry about you, birthday boy.

Callie

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Sunshine wrote:

> Maybe we should accomidate his wishes and just ignore him. Maybe then
> he'll go away. What do you think?

By all means, please _do_ put this theory to the test! :-) -callie

Alan Furman

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In article <61f6h4$r...@netaxs.com>,
Sunshine <suns...@antispam.pinn.net> wrote:

It's not the selfish disregard, it's the pride in it that passes me by.


--
====al...@aimnet.com * LPC * LPUSA * ISIL * IOS * KoX * Netscab Squealer====
LEGALIZE FREEDOM >>>> http://www.lp.org * UBI LIBERTAS IBI PATRIA
An electorate terrified of hemp plants growing in closets
will crap its collective pants, on cue, over firearms.

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
Callie <cal...@flash-nospam.net> was saying...

*Sunshine wrote:
*
*> Maybe we should accomidate his wishes and just ignore him. Maybe then
*> he'll go away. What do you think?
*
*By all means, please _do_ put this theory to the test! :-) -callie

PLEASSEEEEE.... :)

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...


*Maybe we should accomidate his wishes and just ignore him. Maybe then
*he'll go away. What do you think?

Gosh... :)
Please do... I mean I been BEGGIN for 14 years for that...
I just showed yall Humphrey cant to it. It is impossible for him.
He is an obsessed stalker and always will be.

Get it going doll!
Prove me wrong! Heres yer chance!

Are you people whacked out... My God...

But you do understand this is more than a flame war. This concerns the
most talked about issue in cyberspace. Ethical behavior concerning the
right to privacy on the net. It also is the classic case of
cyber-stalking which in this instance, has led to physical stalking
and the involvement of legal actions and law enforcement.

Yer on the right side of this issue aina Sunshine! :)
Over in TPM the gunloons are now starting to put up Drivers Liscense
numbers and SS numbers of those supporting gun controls...
Cool hey? Friends of your too I suppose...
Yeah yeah yeah, I heard it from Humphrey over and over again for 14
yaears... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT NANANANANANA!
Its so cool, so mature, so ethical... Yer obviously picked the right
wagon to jump in. :)

Sunshine

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In article <szkbu0z...@bermuda.io.com>, pat...@io.com says...
>
>In article <61eisn$4...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net
(Sunshine) writes:
>
>>In article <lay3eme1a...@cibolo.is.rice.edu>,
>>pat...@cibolo.rice.edu says...
>
>[major hack, slash, and delete]

>
>>>You're the one that has it worse than anyone else, Wacky. Are you
really
>>>asserting that Sunshine hasn't posted anything other than about
*you* "here"?
>>>You don't even read three of the newsgroups you crosspost your crap
to! If
>>>you read talk.abortion, you'd know better - then again, you wouldn't
have the
>>>opportunity to accuse me of "stalking" you.
>
>>>--PLH, trust Rack to get the basic facts wrong...then again, he's
been doing
>>>that for fourteen years, so what else is new?
>
>>Yes, if Rack ever visited talk.abortion he would look very foolish
for
>>making this statement, wouldn't he?
>
>He would, indeed -- but something tells me that Dave Dahlman couldn't
care
>less what impression anyone has of him. As long as he can say
something and
>get someone to pay attention to him, no matter how outrageous it is,
he'll say
>it, and the consequences be damned.

>
>>Rack - I have news for you. As hard as they may be on you
emotionally,
>>I think about you long enough to post my messages and that's it. I
have
>>better things to do with my time than worry about you, birthday boy.
>
>Small world, isn't it?...so do I. (We should exchange greetings on
our
>respective birthdays, though, so Dave will have something else to
claim as
>"proof" of his delusions...:-)
>
>--PLH, of course, my next one is still seven and a half months away,
but what
>the heck...


Why wait for a real birthday to come around? After all this is the net
and mostly a virtual life anyway. We can celebrate birthdays whenever
we want to and as many times a year as we want to. With that, Patrick
L. Humphrey, I wish you Happy Birthday.

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <61jpof$7...@netaxs.com> suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) writes:

>In article <szkbu0z...@bermuda.io.com>, pat...@io.com says...

[Sunshine and I play hockey with Dave -- he's not even a decent puck.
Sheesh.]


>>Small world, isn't it?...so do I. (We should exchange greetings on our
>>respective birthdays, though, so Dave will have something else to claim as
>>"proof" of his delusions...:-)

>>--PLH, of course, my next one is still seven and a half months away, but what
>>the heck...

>Why wait for a real birthday to come around? After all this is the net
>and mostly a virtual life anyway. We can celebrate birthdays whenever
>we want to and as many times a year as we want to. With that, Patrick
>L. Humphrey, I wish you Happy Birthday.

Thank you kindly, Miss Sunshine. May you have an equally happy one today,
too. (You *do* realize, I hope, that we're running the risk of exciting Dave
a bit too much for his own good -- after all, he *is* going on 52 years
old. :-)

--PLH, considerate, hasta la ultima gota :)

Jim Davidson

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Alan Furman wrote:

> An electorate terrified of hemp plants growing in closets
> will crap its collective pants, on cue, over firearms.

My question is, who the hell was the tailor on these collective pants?

They look to me rather like that suit of clothing that Emperor once
wore.

Free Yourself,

Jim
http://www.alf.net/mayors.html

Rack Jite

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Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been
following me around to every BBS and network I have been on doing
little else than squealing what my name may be and where I may live.
It is a probably the most classic case on the net of invasion of
privacy and cyberspace stalking which has lead to him physically
stalk me at home.

Mr. Humphrey refuses to stop under any condition. Recently I
unilaterally stated that I would remove his name from my website, and
make no mention of him anywhere at all to see if he would reciprocate,
stop this battle and prove to everyone he is not the stalker I claim
him to be. The day after I publicly posted that message, he was
replying to my issue oriented messages including what he presumes my
name and where I live, and has proceeded to do so over the two weeks

since. Probably the defining factor of a stalker is their inability to
stop it.

Though Rice University has sent me a letter of apology for the actions
of Mr. Humphrey and Rice Legal Department no longer allows him to use

his employee account as a base for his stalking, he now uses a paid

--Patrick L. "pull!" Humphrey

---

Sunshine

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Hey, Rack, where you been. I thought you feel off the face of the earth
or something. Getting ready for your birthday party?

Sunshine

[repeatitious drivel deleted]

Don

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By putting
him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of his,
and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite him to
respond.
Look, I'm not a Libertarian (ask your new friend Jim Davidson), I'm
against stalkers, etc. If you don't answer his posts you'll run a much
better chance that he fades away. If you want him to leave your *ideas*
alone and not "pick on you", for the simple fact that those ideas can't
bear the scrutiny he gives (ie: the light of day), I suggest that you're
in the wrong place to voice them.
As far as your previous comments about shooting bicyclists as they flip
you off; I suggest you ask a real cop (ie: not the local mall security
guard) next time you want advice about how you should respond to such
things.

Ray Fischer

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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Rack Jite <rack...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Understand the purpose here. For 14 years this abject loser has been

And the idiot continues to prance around with a "kick me" sign taped
to his back.

Get a life.

--
Ray Fischer
r...@netcom.com

Patrick L. Humphrey

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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In article <3444ED...@worldnet.att.net> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> writes:

>Rack Jite wrote:

[Dave's canned-rant "defense" deleted]

>Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By putting
>him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of his,
>and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite him to
>respond.

You're welcome to try and explain that to Dave, but as his track record
indicates, he's not too much interested in listening to common sense.

>Look, I'm not a Libertarian (ask your new friend Jim Davidson), I'm
>against stalkers, etc. If you don't answer his posts you'll run a much
>better chance that he fades away. If you want him to leave your *ideas*
>alone and not "pick on you", for the simple fact that those ideas can't
>bear the scrutiny he gives (ie: the light of day), I suggest that you're
>in the wrong place to voice them.

I definitely agree with that -- and I'm not stalking him any more than I'm
stalking you. He's just been on this fourteen-year crusade for no other
reason than that we were once both on the same BBS...when he used his real
name. Apparently, having a memory is a Bad Thing in Dave's little world.

>As far as your previous comments about shooting bicyclists as they flip
>you off; I suggest you ask a real cop (ie: not the local mall security
>guard) next time you want advice about how you should respond to such
>things.

Why? He refuses to name names of anyone he allegedly spoke to to get said
advice -- which means there's a significant possibility that he's making the
whole thing up.

--PLH, thanks for the input

Don

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Oct 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/16/97
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Patrick L. Humphrey wrote:
>
> In article <3444ED...@worldnet.att.net> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> >Rack Jite wrote:
>
> [Dave's canned-rant "defense" deleted]
>
> >Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By putting
> >him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of his,
> >and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite him to
> >respond.
>
> You're welcome to try and explain that to Dave, but as his track record
> indicates, he's not too much interested in listening to common sense.

So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim and
I are in cohoots...

> >Look, I'm not a Libertarian (ask your new friend Jim Davidson), I'm
> >against stalkers, etc. If you don't answer his posts you'll run a much
> >better chance that he fades away. If you want him to leave your *ideas*
> >alone and not "pick on you", for the simple fact that those ideas can't
> >bear the scrutiny he gives (ie: the light of day), I suggest that you're
> >in the wrong place to voice them.
>
> I definitely agree with that -- and I'm not stalking him any more than I'm
> stalking you. He's just been on this fourteen-year crusade for no other
> reason than that we were once both on the same BBS...when he used his real
> name. Apparently, having a memory is a Bad Thing in Dave's little world.

Was he always so....*charming*? (sarcasm intended)

> >As far as your previous comments about shooting bicyclists as they flip
> >you off; I suggest you ask a real cop (ie: not the local mall security
> >guard) next time you want advice about how you should respond to such
> >things.
>
> Why? He refuses to name names of anyone he allegedly spoke to to get said
> advice -- which means there's a significant possibility that he's making the
> whole thing up.

Strong possibility there. I know plenty of cops and even the ones that
take after "Sledge Hammer" (short lived series) wouldn't advise what he
suggests.

> --PLH, thanks for the input

No problem, perhaps Dave can get help with his problem and let the rest
of us go back to attacking each other again. <G>

Sunshine

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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In article <3446B1...@worldnet.att.net>, dond...@worldnet.att.net
says...

>
>Patrick L. Humphrey wrote:
>>
>> In article <3444ED...@worldnet.att.net> Don
<dond...@worldnet.att.net> wr
>ites:
>>
>> >Rack Jite wrote:
>>
>> [Dave's canned-rant "defense" deleted]
>>
>> >Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By
putting
>> >him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of
his,
>> >and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite
him to
>> >respond.
>>
>> You're welcome to try and explain that to Dave, but as his track
record
>> indicates, he's not too much interested in listening to common
sense.
>
>So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim
and
>I are in cohoots...

He e-mailed me, too, threatening to report me to my ISP if I ever sent
him another e-mail. Apparently when I responded to a post, on-line, my
computer automatically posted a cc copy to him. For that I recieved a
threatening e-mail.

Sunshine

Sunshine

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In article <6268t8$n...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
>*Hey, Rack, where you been. I thought you feel off the face of the
earth
>*or something. Getting ready for your birthday party?
>*
>*Sunshine
>*
>*[repeatitious drivel deleted]
>*
>*--
>*Sunshine for Women (and Men Who Love Women)
>*http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/main.html
>*remove antispam. from e-mail address to reply or
>*just enter suns...@pinn.net
>
>Why are you now sending this crap to me in email?
>

Since you filled in the cc line in the respond-to box on the
news reader on your computer, my computer automatically sends you a
courtesy copy of what I post to the net. Since I have no interest in
having any private e-mail from you, I usually remember to delete the
information in the cc box before posting. Witness the
many times I have posted to the net in response to your
posts which did not result in any cc for you. Unfortunately, I made a
mistake that time. Please rest assured that I have no interest in
sending you any private e-mail and it was most assuredly an accident.
Please forgive.

Sunshine

>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

--

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

*So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim and
*I are in cohoots...

I made no such inference, or claim. You are a liar.

*Was he always so....*charming*? (sarcasm intended)

Saddling right up the the top squealer and stalker on Usenet, just
like I said you would. I told you I could name that tune in one note.
:)

Rack Jite

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

*> Though I cannot reply with this message every time he invades my
*> privacy (which would be serveral times a day more days than not), I
*> will post these IN CONTEXT direct quotes of his a few times a week
*> until he stops.
*
*Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By putting
*him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of his,
*and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite him to
*respond.

I have ignored him for months, for a year, I just ignored him for 2
weeks and NOTHING HAS EVER WORKED. It is his life work to reply to
anything I say, no matter what it is, by pointing to my front door.

*Look, I'm not a Libertarian (ask your new friend Jim Davidson), I'm
*against stalkers, etc.

Every message I have read from you so far regarding any issue at all
sure has been libertarian in nature. No, you are not against stalkers,
you are against the victims of stalkers who have decided to address
the issue of stalking and the stalking that is going on right here
everyday by this little creep.

*If you don't answer his posts you'll run a much
*better chance that he fades away.

I have tried that over and over again for 14 years and it does not
work AT ALL. He is on a mission. He is obssessed.

*If you want him to leave your *ideas*
*alone and not "pick on you", for the simple fact that those ideas can't
*bear the scrutiny he gives (ie: the light of day), I suggest that you're
*in the wrong place to voice them.

Now that is just crap. I have never complained about he or anyone
addressing any issue of mine. Its that he MUST point to my front door
in every reply he makes to or about me, no matter what the issue. It
is a 14 year obsession that he has keep going more days than not for
that entire time period, whether I ignore him or not. And I will fight
back and the place to do it is where he is.

*As far as your previous comments about shooting bicyclists as they flip
*you off; I suggest you ask a real cop (ie: not the local mall security
*guard) next time you want advice about how you should respond to such
*things.

I can see right through that kind of game don. :)The issue was not
shooting bicyclists, but shooting stalkers. And the advice was from no
mall gaurd. I have gotten the same advice from different police
agencies over the years. This is TEXAS they tell me, shoot first ask
questions later.

And hey its all moot, I ain shooting anyone. Never hinted or suggested
that I was. I made the point because once the story of this little
geek's 14 year obsessive squealing and stalking homes gets OUT BEYOND
the netscabs of cyperspace, most people (texans), including police,
say they would either go find him and beat the shit out of the little
creep or if he came to their house again, shoot the bastard.
I'm a liberal, I dont do those things. In fact I dont care what his
name is, I dont care where he lives, I dont go to his house, and I
dont post any message pointing to his front door at all, ever.

Hey I just read he's coming by this weekend again to drop off
something or other. Remember this cool quote by him?

"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

Paul Peterson

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rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:

>"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a


>sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
>with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

I have had discussions with this Patrick Humprey. In fact I emailed
him an apology for not returning his post. Which I intended to.
I will post this Email letter here:

"Subject:
zamast19
Date:
Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:41:59 +0000
From:
Zamaster <zama...@mail.idt.net>
To:
pat...@io.com


I`m back :)

Shining the light of truth!
Again!

Paul Peterson

PS By the way! My BA degree came in 1968.
My daughter is 14 yrs. We chose to have her
before she was concieve. Novel idea HUH?

My reason for not answering your last post was
out of town. To Washington DC for guess what?

Later!"

PATRICK HUMPREY'S response was:
"Subject:
Re: zamast19
Date:
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:21:10 -0500 (CDT)
From:
"Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com>
To:
Zamaster <zama...@idt.net>


On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Zamaster wrote:

>I`m back :)
>
>Shining the light of truth!
>Again!

You wouldn't know the truth if it high-sticked you across your ugly
face,
Paul. That is my personal opinion.

>Paul Peterson
>
>PS By the way! My BA degree came in 1968.

Good for you. That and a dollar will get you run over in the HOV lane
on
I-69...in other words, so what?

>My daughter is 14 yrs. We chose to have her
>before she was concieve. Novel idea HUH?

You're about as original as a Xerox copy, actually...and ours turns 22
next
month. That means she was born almost three years AFTER Roe v. Wade.
Maybe
my wife _chose_ to have her, too, eh?

>My reason for not answering your last post was
>out of town. To Washington DC for guess what?

So? That's YOUR problem.

>Later!

Not in my mailbox, you're not. If you've anything to say to me, you
will say
it in public -- and if you're too stupid to understand that, I'll
gladly post
any e-mail you send me after you receive this notification that you
are
persona non grata in my mailbox. (Your caretakers at IDT are being
notified
as well.)

--PLH, who doesn't appreciate loons making me pay more just to read
their
drivel...so, you are outta here!"


I've responded to HUMPREY maybe 5 times max. He is already angry as
evidenced above. Apparently I won all arguements with him.
Actually, he butted into my conversation with someone else.
He used name calling.

Apparently his employer cut off his freebies online so he now
adds another adjective on his nickname from me (murdering, THEIVING,
satanist, bigot trying to force his irrational thoughts on others.

Zamaster Speaks out again !!!

Jim Davidson

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Rack Jite wrote:

> I made no such inference, or claim. You are a liar.

Don!

Don, you're being called a liar!

That is _so_ unfair. <grin>

Free Yourself,

Jim
http://www.alf.net/

Jim Davidson

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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Don wrote:

> So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim and

> I are in cohoots...

Ah, Don, only you and I know how ridiculous that would be!

<grin>

Jim

Jim Davidson

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Don wrote:

> Then you haven't been reading here for very long. You might want to do
> yourself the service of at least reading posts on other topics before
> making such claims. Jim, feel free to jump in and "enlighten" him on any
> of our past "disagreements.

Yes, Don, you're no libertarian. I know libertarians, and you're no
libertarian.

You don't object to the unconstitutional Sexually Oriented Business
Ordinance.

You don't object to the asinine annexation of Kingwood.

You've never seen a Parking Ordinance you didn't like.

Don, you are a conservative gentleman with a penchant for government
where it suits you.

And frankly, the idea that you have to be libertarian in order to think
Rack Jite is an idiot is bizarre beyond belief.

I'm pretty confident that Sunshine would object to be classed as a
conservative, so it isn't just conservatives who think Rack is wacky.

Oh, well.

Don

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Jim Davidson wrote:
>
> Don wrote:
>
> > Then you haven't been reading here for very long. You might want to do
> > yourself the service of at least reading posts on other topics before
> > making such claims. Jim, feel free to jump in and "enlighten" him on any
> > of our past "disagreements.
>
> Yes, Don, you're no libertarian. I know libertarians, and you're no
> libertarian.

There you go, Dave aka "rack jite", straight from the horses mouth.

> You don't object to the unconstitutional Sexually Oriented Business
> Ordinance.

No, I don't object to the SOB ordinance (which, BTW, has yet to be ruled
"unconstitutional").

> You don't object to the asinine annexation of Kingwood.

Not without proof that it will cost Houstonians more than it will
benefit.

> You've never seen a Parking Ordinance you didn't like.

Not actually true. Some of the proposals made were not very well thought
out. Others made a lot of sense.

> Don, you are a conservative gentleman with a penchant for government
> where it suits you.

Hey, who are you calling a "gentleman"? <G> I certainly support more
functions of government than yourself (even though those payroll taxes
really hurt this week).

> And frankly, the idea that you have to be libertarian in order to think
> Rack Jite is an idiot is bizarre beyond belief.

True enough, but I figured that Dave (Patrick claims it's his real name
and it seems to bother him enough that it probably is) might want to
hear it from the source.

> I'm pretty confident that Sunshine would object to be classed as a
> conservative, so it isn't just conservatives who think Rack is wacky.

Interesting that such a broad group of people (the "other" Dave,
yourself, Sunshine, Patrick, and myself) actually have something in
common.

Patrick L Humphrey

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In article <627q7h$h...@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> zama...@mail.idt.net (Paul Peterson) writes:

[everything snipped, to get to _this_ little gem from Paul]

>I've responded to HUMPREY maybe 5 times max. He is already angry as
>evidenced above. Apparently I won all arguements with him.

What arguments? It's sort of pointless to even attempt arguing with someone
who assumes his conclusions before he even asks the question, as you do.
(Not to mention someone who thinks he can read minds, too -- me, angry? Too
bad I was laughing at your arrogance.)

>Actually, he butted into my conversation with someone else.
>He used name calling.

Oh, the _humanity_. You posted some delusional rant in a public newsgroup,
and now you're offended that I actually responded to you -- and (horrors!)
called you _names_? Looks like I was being WAY too charitable in my opinion
of you, in that case.

You don't have a right to be not offended in Usenet newsgroups. What you _do_
have is a right to ignore anyone you choose to. (Is that too complex a concpt
for you?)



>Apparently his employer cut off his freebies online so he now
>adds another adjective on his nickname from me (murdering, THEIVING,
>satanist, bigot trying to force his irrational thoughts on others.

What a laugh -- I'm not forcing anything on anyone, Paul...and if my employer
cut me off, just how am I posting from this account, again? And *I'm* adding
more adjectives to my nickname for you? You really have a pathological
problem with projection if you truly believe that, Paul. Get help. ASAP.



>Zamaster Speaks out again !!!

You mean, Paul Petersen vomits in public again.

Meanwhile, I stand by what I said -- if you have anything to say to me, you
say it in public, where everyone can see. If I don't want you cluttering up
my mailbox and costing me money -- you don't do it. Period. You got a
problem with that? Tough.

--PLH, Paul knows not what he's asking for


Jim Davidson

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Sunshine wrote:

> You're right. I would object to being classed as a conservative
> although I have been lumped in with everything from left wing radicals
> to moderate republican over the last 20 years. But then again, most of
> the people making judgements about where I fall on the political
> spectrum can't tell the difference between a liberal, a libertarian,
> and a libertine.

Out of curiousity, and meaning no disparagement, are you a liberal, a
libertarian, or a libertine?

> Oh, I don't thin Rack is completely wacky. Indeed, I don agree with
> much he publishes at Conservatively Incorrect. I just think this thing
> he has for Patrick is a bit much. You don't think he's one of those
> latent you-know-whats. do you?

Probably. Not that I object.

Jim

Jim Davidson

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Patrick L Humphrey wrote:

> You don't have a right to be not offended in Usenet newsgroups. What you _do_
> have is a right to ignore anyone you choose to. (Is that too complex a concpt
> for you?)

Let's simplify. You have a right to be offended in Usenet newsgroups.

Post things to newsgroups.

Be offended by what people post in response.

Any other expectation is just silly.

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <3447F9...@net1.net> Jim Davidson <davi...@net1.net> writes:

>Patrick L Humphrey wrote:

>>You don't have a right to be not offended in Usenet newsgroups. What you _do_

>>have is a right to ignore anyone you choose to.(Is that too complex a concept


>>for you?)

>Let's simplify. You have a right to be offended in Usenet newsgroups.

True, but you don't have a right _not_ to be offended, as well. (I should
have put it that way in the first place -- apologies for the slightly
scrambled syntax.)



>Post things to newsgroups.

>Be offended by what people post in response.

>Any other expectation is just silly.

You've grasped it well...the problem is, will Dave or his pal Paul figure it
out?

--PLH, _that's_ the $64,000 question

Matt Pillsbury

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:49:54 GMT, zama...@mail.idt.net (Paul
Peterson) wrote in <627q7h$h...@nnrp1.farm.idt.net>:

>rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:

I said I wasn't going to have anything more to do with Rack on this
subject, but now that he's got *Paul Peterson* supporting him, I just
couldn't resist. *knolp* Outta the killfile with you....

Rack is so fond of guilt by association--so let's associate him with
some guilt. The antiabortionoids don't come nuttier than "Zamaster".

>>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

[...]

>>Hey I just read he's coming by this weekend again to drop off
>>something or other. Remember this cool quote by him?
>
>>"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
>>sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
>>with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

I've always wondered just what this quote is supposed to prove. That
Patrick thinks that Peter Nyikos is "a sick little asshole"?

Gee, that's a shock. He's usually so *nice* to Nyikos.

[...]

>I have had discussions with this Patrick Humprey. In fact I emailed
>him an apology for not returning his post.

Oh, wow. I'm sure he was completely devastated when you let that
thread die. Did you apologize for calling him a "murdering satanist
bigot"?

>Which I intended to.
>I will post this Email letter here:

[and I'll snip it here.]

>PATRICK HUMPREY'S response was:
>"Subject:
> Re: zamast19
> Date:
> Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:21:10 -0500 (CDT)
> From:
> "Patrick L. Humphrey" <pat...@io.com>
> To:
> Zamaster <zama...@idt.net>

>On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Zamaster wrote:

[...]

>>Paul Peterson

[...]

>>Later!

>Not in my mailbox, you're not.

[...]

>--PLH, who doesn't appreciate loons making me pay more just to read
>their
>drivel...so, you are outta here!"

>I've responded to HUMPREY maybe 5 times max. He is already angry as
>evidenced above.

He didn't want email from you. Poor baby. I hope he didn't make you
cry.

[...]

>Apparently his employer cut off his freebies online

Apparantly, you smoke crack. Lots of crack.

[...]

--
Matt Pillsbury "don't open your eyes, take it from me
pil...@brown.edu the devils of truth steal the souls of the free."
--nin, "happiness in slavery"

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...
>
> *So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim and
> *I are in cohoots...

>
> I made no such inference, or claim. You are a liar.

I'll be more diplomatic about my observations of you. I suggest that you
find it difficult to keep track of all the people you disagree with,
which is one reason why you "paint so many with a broad brush", and
can't handle it when someone calls you on it. See, I don't *need* to
call you a liar- I can just point out the obvious.

> *Was he always so....*charming*? (sarcasm intended)
>
> Saddling right up the the top squealer and stalker on Usenet, just
> like I said you would. I told you I could name that tune in one note.
> :)

I probably have as many differences with Patrick as I do with Jim.
"Saddling right up" would not fit the reality of this world, perhaps you
mean another?
ps: the term "squealer" is a bit out-dated so you might want to think up
something a bit more contemporary...

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...
>
> *> Though I cannot reply with this message every time he invades my
> *> privacy (which would be serveral times a day more days than not), I
> *> will post these IN CONTEXT direct quotes of his a few times a week
> *> until he stops.
> *
> *Perhaps he might ignore you if you stop responding to him. By putting
> *him on your webpage, responding to what seems like every post of his,
> *and going into great detail about your past with him, you invite him to
> *respond.
>
> I have ignored him for months, for a year, I just ignored him for 2
> weeks and NOTHING HAS EVER WORKED. It is his life work to reply to
> anything I say, no matter what it is, by pointing to my front door.

I reiterate that you feed the fire when you have anything to do with
him. You reply to his posts on a VERY frequent basis, put his name on
your web-site, have made it clear that you believe you have the legal
right to shoot him if he rides his bicycle in front of your home. You
don't think that such activity encourages him?

> *Look, I'm not a Libertarian (ask your new friend Jim Davidson), I'm
> *against stalkers, etc.
>
> Every message I have read from you so far regarding any issue at all
> sure has been libertarian in nature. No, you are not against stalkers,
> you are against the victims of stalkers who have decided to address
> the issue of stalking and the stalking that is going on right here
> everyday by this little creep.

Then you haven't been reading here for very long. You might want to do


yourself the service of at least reading posts on other topics before
making such claims. Jim, feel free to jump in and "enlighten" him on any
of our past "disagreements.

> *If you don't answer his posts you'll run a much


> *better chance that he fades away.
>
> I have tried that over and over again for 14 years and it does not
> work AT ALL. He is on a mission. He is obssessed.
>
> *If you want him to leave your *ideas*
> *alone and not "pick on you", for the simple fact that those ideas can't
> *bear the scrutiny he gives (ie: the light of day), I suggest that you're
> *in the wrong place to voice them.
>
> Now that is just crap. I have never complained about he or anyone
> addressing any issue of mine. Its that he MUST point to my front door
> in every reply he makes to or about me, no matter what the issue. It
> is a 14 year obsession that he has keep going more days than not for
> that entire time period, whether I ignore him or not. And I will fight
> back and the place to do it is where he is.

Translation: He knows what buttons of yours to push and you don't know
his. You complain how he responds to your posts "even when he has
nothing to say". That sounds a lot like what I addressed above.

> *As far as your previous comments about shooting bicyclists as they flip
> *you off; I suggest you ask a real cop (ie: not the local mall security
> *guard) next time you want advice about how you should respond to such
> *things.
>
> I can see right through that kind of game don. :)The issue was not
> shooting bicyclists, but shooting stalkers. And the advice was from no
> mall gaurd. I have gotten the same advice from different police
> agencies over the years. This is TEXAS they tell me, shoot first ask
> questions later.

Since your defense would revolve around a specific cop (or cops), it
would be wise to let the rest of the world know their names. Maybe
someone (I wonder who?) is getting PROPER information from certain
police and is then twisting it to their own agenda. It isn't a game when
you start to advocate the use of force under such circumstances. Making
comments of "but I wouldn't do it, even though it's legal" doesn't sway
me in the slightest that your intent in mentioning this is innocent.

> And hey its all moot, I ain shooting anyone. Never hinted or suggested
> that I was. I made the point because once the story of this little
> geek's 14 year obsessive squealing and stalking homes gets OUT BEYOND
> the netscabs of cyperspace, most people (texans), including police,
> say they would either go find him and beat the shit out of the little
> creep or if he came to their house again, shoot the bastard.

You sure do get around, don't you? You know what "most Texans" say or do
about a lot of things. It would be nice if you qualified such opinions
with fact or at least SOME form of reasoning.

> I'm a liberal, I dont do those things. In fact I dont care what his
> name is, I dont care where he lives, I dont go to his house, and I
> dont post any message pointing to his front door at all, ever.

Good for you...

> Hey I just read he's coming by this weekend again to drop off
> something or other. Remember this cool quote by him?

> "--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
> sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
> with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

Where does it indicate that he's "dropping something off"? ps: I guess
I'm not as obsessed with him as you are to remember everything he's
posted...

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

*>So I noticed after he emailed me, making various claims such as Jim
*>and I are in cohoots...

*He e-mailed me, too, threatening to report me to my ISP if I ever sent
*him another e-mail. Apparently when I responded to a post, on-line, my
*computer automatically posted a cc copy to him. For that I recieved a
*threatening e-mail.

Gosh you little netscabs are just AWFUL! :)
The first statment is a flatout lie, I dont even know who Jim is yet
alone claiming some conspiracy about him. And then I reply to your
email ASKING you to stay out of my email box with a THANKYOU, its
threatening email! Gosh you people! Netscab to the core. In fact
Sunshine, yer being such a netscab, I'm pretty sure you are not what
you present yourself to be.

You people have any idea AT ALL of the amount of threatening foul
email I get from squealers, libertarians and conservatives? Gosh... I
robosize replies to most of it. I got one for the threats, one for the
squealers (like you), and usually answer the reasonable ones myself.

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

*>Why are you now sending this crap to me in email?

*Since you filled in the cc line in the respond-to box on the
*news reader on your computer, my computer automatically sends you a
*courtesy copy of what I post to the net. Since I have no interest in
*having any private e-mail from you, I usually remember to delete the
*information in the cc box before posting. Witness the
*many times I have posted to the net in response to your
*posts which did not result in any cc for you. Unfortunately, I made a
*mistake that time. Please rest assured that I have no interest in
*sending you any private e-mail and it was most assuredly an accident.
*Please forgive.
*Sunshine

Ok, but in the your next message you accuse me of sending you
THREATENING EMAIL. I sent you my standard robopost (robo-2 for
squealers) which said if you keep it up I will begin sending your
email back to your ISP with a complaint. Just like Patrick Humphey has
done to me, and god knows who else how many times! And mine was a
reply to his email, he inititated it! :) What hypocrisy!
Gosh, you little netscabs... gee... And theres so damn many of yall
sucking up to each other ya think it makes you right. :)

And I can use the MISTAKE defense too. We all check our email first
thing online, then go to the web or ngs. So I read your email and
replied to it before I knew it was a copy of a public post.
Had I know, I would have sent the same ROBO post anyhow! :)

You sure know how to pick yer pals sunshine!(Or whatever your real
name is:) WHICH ANYONE WITH A BRAIN COULD CARE LESS ABOUT! :)
Or when your birthday is, or how old are you, or what your house looks
like, or what you have in your yard, or what the police say about your
kids... Comprende?

The real point here is not what I say, the point is to get Humphrey to
type his messages that have nothing in them but who I may be, where I
may live, that whatever I say is a lie because I dont list sheets of
bibliography or post FULL MESSEGES WITH EXTENDED HEADERS, when my
birthday is, how old I am, what my house looks like, how far he can
ride his bikey, how long hes been squealing, what the police tell him
about my children, and of course, my favorite, his boasts of when he's
coming to my house again! And that doesnt even include the tone and
symantics of his messages that reek of a 13 year old or someone more
than a bit retarded.

Sunshine

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In article <629i9a$s...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
rack...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
>*>Why are you now sending this crap to me in email?
>
>*Since you filled in the cc line in the respond-to box on the
>*news reader on your computer, my computer automatically sends you a
>*courtesy copy of what I post to the net. Since I have no interest in
>*having any private e-mail from you, I usually remember to delete the
>*information in the cc box before posting. Witness the
>*many times I have posted to the net in response to your
>*posts which did not result in any cc for you. Unfortunately, I made a
>*mistake that time. Please rest assured that I have no interest in
>*sending you any private e-mail and it was most assuredly an accident.
>*Please forgive.
>*Sunshine
>
>Ok, but in the your next message you accuse me of sending you
>THREATENING EMAIL. I sent you my standard robopost (robo-2 for
>squealers)

What exactly is a squealer?

> which said if you keep it up I will begin sending your
> email back to your ISP with a complaint.

And that, my dear, is a threat. I made it quite clear in my other post
about what your threate consisted of.

> Just like Patrick Humphey has
> done to me, and god knows who else how many times! And mine was a
> reply to his email, he inititated it! :) What hypocrisy!
> Gosh, you little netscabs... gee... And theres so damn many of yall
> sucking up to each other ya think it makes you right. :)
>
> And I can use the MISTAKE defense too. We all check our email first
> thing online, then go to the web or ngs. So I read your email and
> replied to it before I knew it was a copy of a public post.
> Had I know, I would have sent the same ROBO post anyhow! :)

Your apology is accepted. Thank you for offering it.

>
> You sure know how to pick yer pals sunshine!(Or whatever your real
> name is:) WHICH ANYONE WITH A BRAIN COULD CARE LESS ABOUT! :)
> Or when your birthday is, or how old are you, or what your house
looks
>like,

Well, the bathroom is all marble, it has a tub big enough for 2, a walk
in shower (also big enoug for 2 ;-) ), double marble vanity sink, a
wall of mirrors, and lots of windows. I designed it myself.

> or what you have in your yard, or what the police say about your
> kids... Comprende?
>
> The real point here is not what I say, the point is to get Humphrey
to
>type his messages that have nothing in them but who I may be, where I
>may live, that whatever I say is a lie because I dont list sheets of
>bibliography or post FULL MESSEGES WITH EXTENDED HEADERS, when my
>birthday is, how old I am, what my house looks like, how far he can
>ride his bikey, how long hes been squealing, what the police tell him
>about my children, and of course, my favorite, his boasts of when he's
>coming to my house again! And that doesnt even include the tone and
>symantics of his messages that reek of a 13 year old or someone more
>than a bit retarded.
>

>---
> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

Happy Birthday, I know it's coming up soon.

Sunshine

Paul Peterson

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Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:49:54 GMT, zama...@mail.idt.net (Paul
>Peterson) wrote in <627q7h$h...@nnrp1.farm.idt.net>:

>>I have had discussions with this Patrick Humprey. In fact I emailed
>>him an apology for not returning his post.

>Oh, wow. I'm sure he was completely devastated when you let that


>thread die. Did you apologize for calling him a "murdering satanist
>bigot"?

NOPE he still is that but I added to it "murdering satanist thieving
Toilet mouth bigot" Patrick HUMPHREY : )

>He didn't want email from you. Poor baby. I hope he didn't make you
>cry.

>[...]

>>Apparently his employer cut off his freebies online

>Apparantly, you smoke crack. Lots of crack.

Been licking any frogs lately Matt! : )


I definitely am opposed to Rikes opinion but
He has a right (an allowance from me to express them).
As do you Matt and even Patrick

Having said that I have a question?
Do you reside with Brownies at U

later!
PAUL acknowledging FREEDOM.


Sunshine

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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In article <62b5k3$q...@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>, zama...@mail.idt.net
says...

>
>Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:49:54 GMT, zama...@mail.idt.net (Paul
>>Peterson) wrote in <627q7h$h...@nnrp1.farm.idt.net>:
>
>
>
>
>>>I have had discussions with this Patrick Humprey. In fact I emailed
>>>him an apology for not returning his post.
>
>>Oh, wow. I'm sure he was completely devastated when you let that
>>thread die. Did you apologize for calling him a "murdering satanist
>>bigot"?
>
>NOPE he still is that but I added to it "murdering satanist thieving
>Toilet mouth bigot" Patrick HUMPHREY : )
>
>

I have found Patrick to be nothing else than a perfect gentleman.

[snip]

>later!
>PAUL acknowledging FREEDOM.

Paul Peterson

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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pat...@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) wrote:

>In article <627q7h$h...@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> zama...@mail.idt.net (Paul Peterson) writes:

>[everything snipped, to get to _this_ little gem from Paul]

>>I've responded to HUMPREY maybe 5 times max. He is already angry as


>>evidenced above. Apparently I won all arguements with him.

>What arguments? It's sort of pointless to even attempt arguing with someone


>who assumes his conclusions before he even asks the question, as you do.
>(Not to mention someone who thinks he can read minds, too -- me, angry? Too
>bad I was laughing at your arrogance.)

>>Actually, he butted into my conversation with someone else.
>>He used name calling.

>Oh, the _humanity_. You posted some delusional rant in a public newsgroup,


>and now you're offended that I actually responded to you -- and (horrors!)
>called you _names_? Looks like I was being WAY too charitable in my opinion
>of you, in that case.

>You don't have a right to be not offended in Usenet newsgroups. What you _do_


>have is a right to ignore anyone you choose to. (Is that too complex a concpt
>for you?)
>

>>Apparently his employer cut off his freebies online so he now
>>adds another adjective on his nickname from me (murdering, THEIVING,
>>satanist, bigot trying to force his irrational thoughts on others.

>What a laugh -- I'm not forcing anything on anyone, Paul...and if my employer


>cut me off, just how am I posting from this account, again? And *I'm* adding
>more adjectives to my nickname for you? You really have a pathological
>problem with projection if you truly believe that, Paul. Get help. ASAP.

Maybe, you are paying for it now! BUT.....

>>Zamaster Speaks out again !!!

>You mean, Paul Petersen vomits in public again.
Nice talk you" MURDERING, SATANIST, THEIVING, TOILETMOUTH BIGOT"

>Meanwhile, I stand by what I said -- if you have anything to say to me, you
>say it in public, where everyone can see. If I don't want you cluttering up
>my mailbox and costing me money -- you don't do it. Period. You got a
>problem with that? Tough.

APPARENTLY WHEN I STARTED TO RESPOND TO YOU
I REALLY STEPPED IN SOME DOODOO send me your address
and I'll send the shoes WITH THE REST OF YOU ON THEM!!!

Paul sending Pat back to Pat


>--PLH, Paul knows not what he's asking for

Still Patty you didn't say anything of value again!

TALKING WITH YOU HAS NO VALUE

BYE!

Lou Minatti

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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Callie wrote:

>
> Rack Jite wrote:
> > The real point here is not what I say, the point is to get Humphrey to
> > type his messages that have nothing in them but who I may be, where I
> > may live, that whatever I say is a lie because I dont list sheets of
> > bibliography or post FULL MESSEGES WITH EXTENDED HEADERS, when my
> > birthday is, how old I am, what my house looks like, how far he can
> > ride his bikey, how long hes been squealing, what the police tell him
> > about my children, and of course, my favorite, his boasts of when he's
> > coming to my house again!
>
> So, you finally make your agenda clear, with this enlightenment: " ...

> the
> point is to get Humphrey to type his messages that have nothing in them
> but
> who I may be, where I may live, ... "
>
> Sounds like an open & shut case of someone WANTING to be stalked, badly.

Nahh... he just wants to sell newsletters and bumperstickers via his
website.

Here's an amusing coincidence: The two most obnoxious people on this
newsgroup have completely opposite political views, yet they share the
same name. <g>

Sunshine

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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In article <3447FE...@net1.net>, davi...@net1.net says...

>
>Sunshine wrote:
>
>> You're right. I would object to being classed as a conservative
>> although I have been lumped in with everything from left wing
radicals
>> to moderate republican over the last 20 years. But then again, most
of
>> the people making judgements about where I fall on the political
>> spectrum can't tell the difference between a liberal, a libertarian,
>> and a libertine.
>
>Out of curiousity, and meaning no disparagement, are you a liberal, a
>libertarian, or a libertine?

If I have to choose any of the three above, I choose Liberal. I usually
describe myself as a flaming moderate. :-)


Sunshine

>
>> Oh, I don't thin Rack is completely wacky. Indeed, I don agree with
>> much he publishes at Conservatively Incorrect. I just think this
thing
>> he has for Patrick is a bit much. You don't think he's one of those
>> latent you-know-whats. do you?
>
>Probably. Not that I object.
>
>Jim

--

Callie

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Oct 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/19/97
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Lou Minatti wrote:
> Here's an amusing coincidence: The two most obnoxious people on this
> newsgroup have completely opposite political views, yet they share the
> same name. <g>

Hallelujah! I *wondered* of it was just me, or if anyone else noticed
the idyosyncrasies of the trolls, Dave & David.

Lou, you're a smart man; do ya suppose it's cuz their parents were of
the same litter themselves?

<mutter> ... them Xposting, inbred, trailer trash bigots ... </mutter>

Rack Jite

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Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

*> > I made no such inference, or claim. You are a liar.
*>
*> Don!
*> Don, you're being called a liar!
*> That is _so_ unfair. <grin>
*
*Maybe he'll wake up someday and discover that people from all walks of
*life dislike his method of disagreement. (ie: if he makes a statement
*and someone disagrees, they *must* be a liar)

It had nothing to do with a disagreement. You made a statement that in
email I said you and this jim guy were in cahoots. I made no
reference, no inference, no statement about that person, I did not
even know his name until yesterday. It is a lie. You are a liar.
And you are going to keep the lie going arent ya Don?
Because you got like minded netscab pals backing your lies up.
Thats why each day you climb a bit higher up the netscab ladder.

And heres a truth for ya. For 14 years Humphrey has been playing this
game of pointing to my door, more days than not. In that time I have
watched literally hundreds of people saddle up to him just to play
-GET THE LIBERAL. Down the line, 95% of those people ended up sorry
they did. And what he is left with is the scum of the net.

Callie

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Rack Jite wrote:

> Take sunshine out, that is a handle and as we all know, ya cant
> trust anyone not using their names

Not that I trust *you*, but is Rack Jite *your* name?

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> *I probably have as many differences with Patrick as I do with Jim.
> *"Saddling right up" would not fit the reality of this world, perhaps you
> *mean another?
>
> No I mean YOU. I am sure there are differences between individuals in
> the neo-conservative/libertarian ideologies, but ya know Don, hate to
> say it, but I sure ain see you voice of them!

As I stated before, you obviously haven't paid attention.

> Let me think of some big issues of libertarians and watch you
> disagree. :)
> Gun Controls!

I believe in some regulation of guns. I also think that they should be
worn visibly (ie: not concealed)

> Welfare

I much prefer workfare if such assistance is needed.

> Afrimative Action

I don't believe in quotas, set asides, or preferences. If you meant
things like advertising in papers or magazines that are read by
minorities when looking for bids, or employees, that is okay.

> Taxation

I think some taxes are fine. Less than you and more than Libertarians
like.

> Regulation

I like some regulation and dislike others. Sounds like many in this
world....

> Labor unions

We shouldn't support them or break them (using government)

> United Nations

They should move to Geneva which would then pay for them. WE (the USA)
aren't neutral in most things and shouldn't waste our time forcing our
views on every stupid little country in the world.

> The environment

I like trees but I refuse to hug one.

> Civil Rights

We all have them and we should remember our civil RESPONSIBILITIES as
well.

> Hate the Federal Government

I don't agree with all the decisions the various parts of government
make but overall am supportive.

> Waco and Ruby Ridge

Taught us the folly of armed resistance to superior forces.

> Hate Bill Clinton

I never met him (or Hillary) so I can't say that I hate him. I dislike a
number of his policies though.

> Hate Liberals very VERY VERY much.

Naaa, some of the cutest women are liberals. <G>

> I suppose the two big disagreements would be the full legalization of
> all drugs and perhaps some Jezus stuff. Though NEO-CONSERVATIVE is
> really an ideology that has pretty much replaced religion with raw
> selfishness, so I'm not sure about that one. :)

Okay.... Having seen the results of drugs on a number of people, as well
as the results of the drug "war", I would be happy with a truce. I don't
generally interfer with others religious beliefs so that isn't an issue.

> *ps: the term "squealer" is a bit out-dated so you might want to think up
> *something a bit more contemporary...
>
> Tattletale? Stool Pidgen? What do they call squealers in the Mob?

In the "Mob", they call such people "dead". Street term would be "narc"
for someone who informs on another as to an illicit activity. I believe
the authorities use the term "informant".

> What do they do to them? :)

It isn't pretty. Move to NYC and watch out the windows...

> I guess I am out of touch on this Don. Somewhere in my background,
> perhaps school or the military or something, I came to believe that
> being a squealer or a tattletail had a negative connotation to it. But
> I guess I was wrong, it seems being a little squealer is quite
> popular, in fact a thing to not only advocate, but emulate. Well
> around here anyway. :)

It depends on what you are telling and to whom. If someone is raping
another, you would be the "reportee" and celebrated as a good guy. If
you told the boss that a fellow employee was taking office supplies
(small amounts), he would like you but the employee would call you a
"suck-up" or "brown-nose". So, in answer to your question, it just
depends on circumstances.

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:

> *Maybe he'll wake up someday and discover that people from all walks of
> *life dislike his method of disagreement. (ie: if he makes a statement
> *and someone disagrees, they *must* be a liar)
>
> It had nothing to do with a disagreement. You made a statement that in
> email I said you and this jim guy were in cahoots. I made no
> reference, no inference, no statement about that person, I did not
> even know his name until yesterday. It is a lie. You are a liar.
> And you are going to keep the lie going arent ya Don?
> Because you got like minded netscab pals backing your lies up.
> Thats why each day you climb a bit higher up the netscab ladder.

You did as I claimed. That you have answered Jim's posts (how many
times?) and don't know his name doesn't surprise me. I assure you that I
am not "pals" with any of your tormentors. When I read a post of theirs
that I disagree with, I'll say so. I don't, however, read everything
posted here (sorry if this revelation that you are insignifigant bothers
you).

> And heres a truth for ya. For 14 years Humphrey has been playing this
> game of pointing to my door, more days than not. In that time I have
> watched literally hundreds of people saddle up to him just to play
> -GET THE LIBERAL. Down the line, 95% of those people ended up sorry
> they did. And what he is left with is the scum of the net.

I've played "get the libertarian" plenty of times too. I'm not allied
with Jim (aka "jimbo") or Patrick in any meaningful way. Every once in
awhile we agree (to a point) about something. It has nothing to do with
our liking one another.

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...
>
> *> I have ignored him for months, for a year, I just ignored him for 2
> *> weeks and NOTHING HAS EVER WORKED. It is his life work to reply to
> *> anything I say, no matter what it is, by pointing to my front door.
> *
> *I reiterate that you feed the fire when you have anything to do with
> *him. You reply to his posts on a VERY frequent basis, put his name on
> *your web-site, have made it clear that you believe you have the legal
> *right to shoot him if he rides his bicycle in front of your home. You
> *don't think that such activity encourages him?
>
> I have replied to NONE OF HIS POSTS! NONE. ZERO. ZIP. NAUGHT! :)
> So that is a lie, and you are a liar. AGAIN. I do archive them in a
> zip file though for the day they pass a net stalking bill. Which I do
> think will come...

"For 14 years..." seems to come to mind. You make reference to his posts
so often that my accountant couldn't keep up. Those are called
"replies". I'm truly sorry if this news disturbs you...
As far as any net stalking laws go... What would be the point of saving
his past posts? The law wouldn't apply to them (ex post facto law).

> *Translation: He knows what buttons of yours to push and you don't know
> *his. You complain how he responds to your posts "even when he has
> *nothing to say". That sounds a lot like what I addressed above.
>
> Gee... You are more screwed up than I originally suspected.
> This guy has an IQ of room tempature. Loser is painted across every
> sentence he writes. He's an obsessed foul little squealer and stalker.
> And as we proceed here, you lie time after time while saddling up
> closer and closer to perhaps the best known loser on Usenet. Why?

As indicated, I'm not his friend-I don't know him. Were you to ignore
him on a long term basis, he might go away. You want him to stop after
ignoring him for "a few weeks" or something. BTW, in Houston, a room
"tempature" IQ isn't bad (not great mind you but not bad in the
summertime).

> I'll tell ya why, which is the case for about 98% of you little
> netscabs. YOU HATE LIBERALS SO MUCH YOU WILL JUMP IN BED WITH THE
> DEVIL HIMSELF TO GET YOUR LICKS IN. ADAF.

I'm not a "netscab" or "little". I dislike obsessed losers that call me
"liar" without providing some kind of evidence.

> *Since your defense would revolve around a specific cop (or cops), it
> *would be wise to let the rest of the world know their names.
>
> Gosh... Yeah, I'm gonna give you swarthly little netscabs names and
> dates and affidavits! GOSH! ARE YOU INSANE? :) Geez... Just what I
> want, little losers like you calling police stations about me? God!
> Humprhey has already played out that game. Didnt you see him a few
> weeks ago right here telling everyone the info he got from the police
> about my kids supposedly dialing 911? How proud he was of getting and
> spreading that information? Do you really know what yer doing Don?

You make claims that are more than a bit "unlikely" about what the local
cops "told you". Isn't it fair that someone asks who these public
servants are that are giving you such piss poor legal advice? You would
do better at spreading your message to leave out any references to Pat
or anyone else you dislike. Let your message shine like a beacon in the
night to all who would listen (read)...

> *You sure do get around, don't you? You know what "most Texans" say or do
> *about a lot of things. It would be nice if you qualified such opinions
> *with fact or at least SOME form of reasoning.
>
> Thats crap, because I said most texans I talked to. And if I had not,
> are you telling me most texans arent from the shoot first school of
> gungoonery? :) Look at this thread of the sister being stalked. What
> is the advice EVERYONE has given the guy? Give her a gun, shoot the
> guy... And when I say I got the same advice from Texans or the police
> I have to give their names? What a hoot you are...

You don't *have* to give their names but it seems reasonable that if
they are confident enough to give you such advice, they would want
credit for it as well. On the "stalking thread": You have now proven
beyond any doubt that you are a "liar". I clearly remember someone
telling the poster to get chummy with a local biker gang so they could
display their displeasure if the stalker continued. (normally I would
strike that up to your forgetting or being mistaken but you fixate so
quickly on the term "liar"...)

> *> Hey I just read he's coming by this weekend again to drop off
> *> something or other. Remember this cool quote by him?
> *> "--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
> *> sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
> *> with a pulled pin' Humphrey"
>
> *Where does it indicate that he's "dropping something off"? ps: I guess
> *I'm not as obsessed with him as you are to remember everything he's
> *posted...
>
> I dont read The Squealers messages, ya read one ya read em all. :)

That sure applies for someone else here too... (sarcasm intended)

> It was from that crazy Ayn Rand anarchist guy. The guy you are saying
> I said was in cahoots with you, that lie of yours. I am not sure,
> dropping something off on the 19th... They were both real happy about
> talking about it from what I read.

I thought he was an anachronist, not an anarchist. There is a difference
and know I can see why you like to call others liar so much. Your
reading comprehension skills are poor (from the evidence presented)....

Rack Jite

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suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

*>Gosh you little netscabs are just AWFUL! :)
*>The first statment is a flatout lie, I dont even know who Jim is yet
*>alone claiming some conspiracy about him. And then I reply to your
*>email ASKING you to stay out of my email box with a THANKYOU, its
*>threatening email! Gosh you people! Netscab to the core. In fact
*>Sunshine, yer being such a netscab,
*
*What exactly do you mean by "netscab"?

NETSCABING

The reason I decided to address this issue is to help reinforce my
central theme concerning The nature of the Beast (the advantage the
Right enjoys because they are so intrinsically awful) and to relate
this Usenet example as a learning experience in how Right-wing
propaganda actually works.

As you will notice, the key to netscabing is a mixture of word games,
intellectual dishonesty and outright lies, which they have discovered,
if repeated often enough and reenforced by their ever growing gang of
like minded Right-wing netscabs, the relentless repetition soon
creates truth from lies.

Added to this basic form of propaganda is the use of intimidation to
gain dominance over the newsgroups by driving out those who speak up
to their selfish nonsense. They accomplish this by campaigns of
extreme personal attacks, libel, invasion of privacy, stalking,
threats of all kinds, and repeated complaints to providers over
trivial netiquette.
But above all, what I want to get across is that what they do works,
and works well.
Usenet is anarchy, this is a lesson in what anarchy breeds and why the
Right has become so attracted to it. Who has the biggest gun, and will
resort to the most unethical behavior, wins.

*>I'm pretty sure you are not what
*>you present yourself to be.

*Well, if I'm not me, then who am I?

Just another vindictive little netscab who is now doing little other
than advocating stalking and the invasion of privacy.

Rack Jite

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suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

*Oh, I don't thin Rack is completely wacky. Indeed, I don agree with
*much he publishes at Conservatively Incorrect. I just think this thing
*he has for Patrick is a bit much. You don't think he's one of those
*latent you-know-whats. do you?

Ouuu... I knew it was coming! Now this lovely so called "liberal"
woman, who is using a 'handle' while defending, condoning and
advocating stalking, invasion of privacy (which she takes much joy in
also producing) and shining up to the top loser on usenet is calling
me a fag! :)

Gosh... You asked what NETSCAB means? Yer it doll! :)

Reminds me a lot of CSPAN's Washington Journal morning show. For a few
years the calls coming in were 85% rightwing lunatics, reciting for
the most part (often verbatum), what Rush had said the day before. So
a year ago the program changed to three numbers, Reps, Dems, Other and
alternated. So now its even more fun that before! Of course the right
uses the OTHER all the time claiming to be INDEPENDENTS or MODERATES
to just rail against Clinton and Democats and liberals! Funny...

The Democrat line is even more absurd, have the time it sounds likt
ehis: "I used to be democrat (or I am a democat) and Hillary Clinton
is a communist and her husband should be impeached, he is a traitor to
his country and should be shot! Get out of the UN, I am a NRA life
member!"

What a joke you are sunshine... Hope your real life isnt as full of
losers as your net life is. :)

Rack Jite

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Callie <cal...@flash.net> was saying...

*Rack Jite wrote:
*> The real point here is not what I say, the point is to get Humphrey to
*> type his messages that have nothing in them but who I may be, where I
*> may live, that whatever I say is a lie because I dont list sheets of
*> bibliography or post FULL MESSEGES WITH EXTENDED HEADERS, when my
*> birthday is, how old I am, what my house looks like, how far he can
*> ride his bikey, how long hes been squealing, what the police tell him
*> about my children, and of course, my favorite, his boasts of when he's
*> coming to my house again!
*
*So, you finally make your agenda clear, with this enlightenment: " ...
*the *point is to get Humphrey to type his messages that have nothing in them
*but *who I may be, where I may live, ... "
*Sounds like an open & shut case of someone WANTING to be stalked, badly.

You little netscabs are so screwed up I pity anyone around when you
suddenly unscrew. :)

*You give new meaning to *symantics* [sic]. Undoubtedly, whatever
*paranoid delusion you can read into the words of others will suit your base *need to perpetuate this fraud of *Patrick* harrassing *you*.

Look around here and THEN call me paranoid?? :)
Hehe... Yeah, the jews were paranoid too.
What a yuck you are... :) Gosh...

Rack Jite

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Lou Minatti <slar...@ihatespam.com> was saying...

*Nahh... he just wants to sell newsletters and bumperstickers via his
*website.

hehehe... Yeah thats it... What a moron you are... Gee... I go to a
local small newsgroup I can to sell something! :)

*Here's an amusing coincidence: The two most obnoxious people on this
*newsgroup have completely opposite political views, yet they share the
*same name. <g>

Far out... Hmmm... Heavy.... But I dont see another Lou here...
Or a Patrick, and theres only one Rack...

And one more thing on that one Lou...
Past the primaries, you and Mr. Abrams vote for the same people dont
ya. :)

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <346e2cc6.1019666182@news> Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) writes:

>On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 07:27:52 GMT, rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack
>Jite) wrote in <62ccnc$s...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>:



>>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>>Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) was saying...



>>*>>Hey I just read he's coming by this weekend again to drop off
>>*>>something or other. Remember this cool quote by him?

>>*>>"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
>>*>>sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
>>*>>with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

>>*I've always wondered just what this quote is supposed to prove. That
>>*Patrick thinks that Peter Nyikos is "a sick little asshole"?

>>It has nothing to do with Nyikos, it has to do with a death threat.

>A death threat? ROFLMMFAO.

I'll second that.

>How was Patrick going to return those congratulations with a grenade
>with a pulled ping--UUENCODE it?

Lots of luck, Matt -- I've asked Dave that question more than a few times,
already: just how _do_ I e-mail a grenade? -- and he's always pretended that
he never saw it.

>>Gosh... You people... Death threats ring no alarm,

>We see lots of 'em on talk.abortion. We know what they look like. That
>was no death threat.

Indeed -- and if Dave had ever *read* talk.abortion, instead of just posting
his crap designed to get back at me to it, just because he knows I read it, he
might know better than to act so stupid.

--PLH, for all I know, he's pissed because I _didn't_ pedal by his house
yesterday

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
<snip>
> Come on now, we need some more speeches about how paranoid I am? :)

No speeches are needed. You give ample demonstrations every day. Putting
cute lil' smiley signs after every one of your slurs and accusations
doesn't change that one bit.

--
Lou Minatti | Visit the new home of
slar...@concentrick.net | New Age Wackos,
(remove the "k" to respond) | Strange Foreign Objects,
http://www.skepticult.org | and the Psychic Challenge.

Lou Minatti

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...
>
> *Oh, I don't thin Rack is completely wacky. Indeed, I don agree with
> *much he publishes at Conservatively Incorrect. I just think this thing
> *he has for Patrick is a bit much. You don't think he's one of those
> *latent you-know-whats. do you?
>
> Ouuu... I knew it was coming! Now this lovely so called "liberal"
> woman, who is using a 'handle' while defending, condoning and
> advocating stalking, invasion of privacy (which she takes much joy in
> also producing) and shining up to the top loser on usenet is calling
> me a fag! :)

Did she really call you a "fag"? I must have missed that. You use that
word a lot. Almost as much as you like to use the word "negro". And I
recall an amusing incident from a long time ago... didn't you admit to
something once? <g>

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <62ccn3$s...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

[...]



>I have replied to NONE OF HIS POSTS! NONE. ZERO. ZIP. NAUGHT! :)
>So that is a lie, and you are a liar. AGAIN. I do archive them in a
>zip file though for the day they pass a net stalking bill. Which I do
>think will come...

[...]

You archive them, though -- which means you obviously read them, which
contradicts your earlier statement that you _never_ read them. Must be tough
to keep all those details in the lies separate, eh?

So you're supposedly archiving everything I post for a "net stalking bill"
that YOU think will be passed. Besides the problem of you wasting your time
with that -- since, after all, what you collect will have been done _before_
such a law was enacted, and if you'll take the time to study the Constitution,
you'll notice this little prohibition of ex post facto laws -- there's also
the fact that you _think_ such a bill will be passed, at some conveniently
indefinite future date...but then you're the one who thinks I've been working
at Rice for 14 years, too; you "think" I've posted your address, phone number,
and whatever else, but for some reason you can't find any evidence that I've
ever done so, but you _still_ keep screaming that I did; and you "think"
that if I point out the fact that you're Dave Dahlman, I'm giving everyone a
road map to your door, but if _you_ mention my name, you're doing something
different.

Everyone can see what you're up to, Dave -- and you're not winning any
converts. Shut up and get over your disappointment that I didn't pedal by
your house yesterday, and get some semblance of a life. Quit trying to cause
trouble in _mine_ just because you don't think I have a right to speak.

--PLH, in other words, Dave...put the crack pipe *down*.

Paul Peterson

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rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>suns...@antispam.pinn.net (Sunshine) was saying...

>*>Gosh you little netscabs are just AWFUL! :)
>*>The first statment is a flatout lie, I dont even know who Jim is yet
>*>alone claiming some conspiracy about him. And then I reply to your
>*>email ASKING you to stay out of my email box with a THANKYOU, its
>*>threatening email! Gosh you people! Netscab to the core. In fact
>*>Sunshine, yer being such a netscab,
>*
>*What exactly do you mean by "netscab"?

>NETSCABING

>The reason I decided to address this issue is to help reinforce my
>central theme concerning The nature of the Beast (the advantage the
>Right enjoys because they are so intrinsically awful) and to relate
>this Usenet example as a learning experience in how Right-wing
>propaganda actually works.

HUH? You have figured out what the Clinton PINKhouse, Unions
and the DEMOGueRATs have been doing SINCE 1990 actually always!!!

Let's Change the word to DEMOWHORING!!!!!

>As you will notice, the key to netscabing is a mixture of word games,
>intellectual dishonesty and outright lies, which they have discovered,
>if repeated often enough and reenforced by their ever growing gang of
>like minded Right-wing netscabs, the relentless repetition soon
>creates truth from lies.

>Added to this basic form of propaganda is the use of intimidation to
>gain dominance over the newsgroups by driving out those who speak up
>to their selfish nonsense. They accomplish this by campaigns of
>extreme personal attacks, libel, invasion of privacy, stalking,
>threats of all kinds, and repeated complaints to providers over
>trivial netiquette.
>But above all, what I want to get across is that what they do works,
>and works well.
>Usenet is anarchy, this is a lesson in what anarchy breeds and why the
>Right has become so attracted to it. Who has the biggest gun, and will
>resort to the most unethical behavior, wins.

The Left has NO ethics

>*>I'm pretty sure you are not what
>*>you present yourself to be.

>*Well, if I'm not me, then who am I?

>Just another vindictive little netscab who is now doing little other
>than advocating stalking and the invasion of privacy.

READ THE NEWS for goodness sake!!!!
Clinton's Clipper chip and your freedoms.

> I suppose I can understand the selfish callous disregard
>of conservatives, it's their pride in it that passes me by.
> --------------------------------------------
>Conservatively Incorrect http://www.dragonfire.net/~RJ/
>

Rack I find it hard to believe that you think that BILL CLINTON
is a RIGHT-WING


Revisit: http://idt.net/~zamast19

Paul Recognizing the crooked finger pointing (or nose lengthening)


Rack Jite

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Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

*The linear model you appear to use (ie: left vs right) doesn't apply
*very well when discussing the major playors. Libertarians and
*Conservatives are not much alike in many ways. To lump them into the
*same group displays a tremendous amount of ignorance.

MY GOD ARE YOU SCREWED UP! ITS THE SAME ENDS, THE SAME CENTRAL THEME!
A Social Darwinist outlook on life and whoevers got the most gets the
most. That we are a nation of dollars, not law or men.

*Hey, you were the one that wanted to lump many of us together for the
*simple fact that we disagree with you. You can live with the
*consequences...

I lump you together because you are together, in fact the suckup
factor is getting nauseating hey? :)

---

Matt Pillsbury

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Rack Jite wrote:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) was saying...

>*>*>>"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
>*>*>>sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
>*>*>>with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

>*>*I've always wondered just what this quote is supposed to prove. That
>*>*Patrick thinks that Peter Nyikos is "a sick little asshole"?

>*>It has nothing to do with Nyikos, it has to do with a death threat.

>*A death threat? ROFLMMFAO.
>*How was Patrick going to return those congratulations with a grenade
>*with a pulled ping--UUENCODE it?

>No, by puttin his spandex and little helmet on to bikey by the guys
>house like he brags constantly about bikeybying mine.

Patrick's going to bike to South Carolina to throw a grenade at Peter
Nyikos.

Uh-huh.

>Who knows, the
>guy is an obsessed unstable little stalker.

IOW, it can't be credibly called a death threat without assuming that
Patrick is insane.

>Who cant stop no matter
>what affect it has on his life.

Is this anything like your inability to stop spamming talk.abortion
with your innuendo?

--
Matt Pillsbury "don't open your eyes, take it from me
pil...@brown.edu the devils of truth steal the souls of the free."
--nin, "happiness in slavery"

Rack Jite

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Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...

*Rack Jite wrote:
*
*> *Maybe he'll wake up someday and discover that people from all walks of
*> *life dislike his method of disagreement. (ie: if he makes a statement
*> *and someone disagrees, they *must* be a liar)
*>
*> It had nothing to do with a disagreement. You made a statement that in
*> email I said you and this jim guy were in cahoots. I made no
*> reference, no inference, no statement about that person, I did not
*> even know his name until yesterday. It is a lie. You are a liar.
*> And you are going to keep the lie going arent ya Don?
*> Because you got like minded netscab pals backing your lies up.
*> Thats why each day you climb a bit higher up the netscab ladder.
*
*You did as I claimed.

That is a lie, and you are a liar. And you are proceeding with the
lie, promoting the lie, just as I said you would. Thats what netscabs
are about Don. They are above all else, liars. Like you.

I have the email message of mine in question and just read it. No
mention at all of "Jim" in it. Now its my email and I can post it to
prove you are a liar. If I do, what will be your response? :)
That I forged it, that I edited it? See... What difference does it
make what I verify, you netscabs are going to deny it and lie about no
matter what I do... Lets just see. :)

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...
>
> *As indicated, I'm not his friend-I don't know him. Were you to ignore
> *him on a long term basis, he might go away.
>
> DON! I HAVE IGNORED HIM FOR OVER A YEAR, I THINK THERE WAS A TIME IT
> WAS TWO YEARS. HE STILL REPLIES TO MOST EVERY MESSAGE I TYPE ON ANY
> NEWSGROUP CALLING ME A LIAR AND POINTING TO MY FRONT DOOR, FOR 14
> YEARS. It makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IF I IGNORE HIM OR NOT. HE
> MAKES THIS NO SECRET, HE BOASTS OF IT MOST EVERYDAY. And I have
> decided to fight it now for awhile. I have nothing to lose... Well,
> other and than a bunch of right-wing loonies calling me names...
> And whats new? :)

Shhhh! The over use of capital letters weakens its effect. You posted
that you ignored him for two weeks (just recently). Davidson called you
on it with sarcastic words to the effect that he was impressed with your
self restraint. Now it's two years... Please, at least keep the story
straight. Keep in mind that it isn't just "right wing loonies" that
disagree with you.

> Look, this newsgroup is now a study in how hypocritical the Right is
> when it comes to polemics. It can GO AT LIBERALS on radio all day, all
> over the newsgroups, and the Well, but have a LIBERAL tossing a tiny
> fraction of it of it back will not be tolerated!!! Anything goes to
> GET THE LIBERAL. LOOK AROUND. Most every message either calls me or
> infers I am a liar, I have now been declared queer, and the pointing
> to my door is increasing as are the numbers of you netscabs doing it.
> While yer all screaming I am paranoid. What a hoot you are! :)
> NETSCABS! :)

Liberals and conservatives can be hypocritical, in all media. Keep in
mind that most here don't care if you are queer or not or where you
live. You like to call people "liar" when a reasonable interpretation of
YOUR writing is made. You seem to call everyone you respond to some name
or other in EVERY post and seem to want others to stop reciprocating.

> *I'm not a "netscab" or "little". I dislike obsessed losers that call me
> *"liar" without providing some kind of evidence.
>
> I was not using the word "little" literally, but in eithical stature.
> And you are a netscab. That means someone who lies about other users
> to make their point. I have called you a liar because you said that I
> sent you email saying you were in "cahoots with Jim." I said no such
> thing, made no inference and you just made it up to play the netscab
> game. Here is the email complete and unedited.
<snip longggggg letters with replies>

You made multiple statements that lumped me in with "Jimbo" (and
others), stating that we are/were acting together and/or think alike.
This took place in email as well as on the newsgroup. I used the term
"cahoots" since it is semantically the same. If you can't figure out the
meanings of words, please refrain from posting while you look them up.
(don't worry-the pack of wolves will wait) <G>

Don

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Rack Jite wrote:
>
> Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
> Don <dond...@worldnet.att.net> was saying...
>
> *The linear model you appear to use (ie: left vs right) doesn't apply
> *very well when discussing the major playors. Libertarians and
> *Conservatives are not much alike in many ways. To lump them into the
> *same group displays a tremendous amount of ignorance.
>
> MY GOD ARE YOU SCREWED UP! ITS THE SAME ENDS, THE SAME CENTRAL THEME!
> A Social Darwinist outlook on life and whoevers got the most gets the
> most. That we are a nation of dollars, not law or men.

Why is your God screwed up?

> *Hey, you were the one that wanted to lump many of us together for the
> *simple fact that we disagree with you. You can live with the
> *consequences...
>
> I lump you together because you are together, in fact the suckup
> factor is getting nauseating hey? :)

See? You have made more than a few references that [we] "are together",
including the one above. Doesn't that merit exactly what I said???

Patrick L. Humphrey

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In article <62ibc5$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) writes:

>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was

>Pil...@see.sig.edu (Matt Pillsbury) was saying...

>*>*>>"--Patrick L. 'a grandfather to be -- and any congratulations from a
>*>*>>sick little asshole named Peter Nyikos will be returned with a grenade
>*>*>>with a pulled pin' Humphrey"

>*>*I've always wondered just what this quote is supposed to prove. That
>*>*Patrick thinks that Peter Nyikos is "a sick little asshole"?

>*>It has nothing to do with Nyikos, it has to do with a death threat.

>*A death threat? ROFLMMFAO.
>*How was Patrick going to return those congratulations with a grenade
>*with a pulled ping--UUENCODE it?

A pulled *ping*? "Jeez, he's using 'ping -uga'! The load's gonna blow the
entire network down!" ;-)



>No, by puttin his spandex and little helmet on to bikey by the guys

>house like he brags constantly about bikeybying mine. Who knows, the
>guy is an obsessed unstable little stalker. Who cant stop no matter


>what affect it has on his life.

Yeah, Dave, we know how obsessed you are...I'm going to pedal by the house of
someone who lives in _South Carolina_?

I'm not the one archiving hundreds of articles of you. I'm not the one that's
contacted your employers over _your_ hate campaign in Usenet. So, just how am
_I_ obsessed, again?

--PLH, who knows well what buttons of Dahlman's to push hard

WEF

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Rack Jite wrote:
> GET THE LIBERAL. LOOK AROUND. Most every message either calls me or
> infers I am a liar, I have now been declared queer, and the pointing
> to my door is increasing as are the numbers of you netscabs doing it.
> While yer all screaming I am paranoid. What a hoot you are! :)
> NETSCABS! :)

HHHmmm........maybe my newsgroup client doesn't get all the posts. I
havent seen anyone in houston.general call you a queer. Maybe I just
havent been reading long enough.
And you claim that every other posts infers that you are a liar? I
haven't seen that, either.
And when was the last time Patrick posted your address? I admit I
havent been following this Stalking thread, but I havent seen it. He
calls you Dave, but I just havent seen the other stuff.

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