Lie of the Day: KKKennemur lies some more!
William R. Discipio Jr
Jim Kennemur (volt...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 05:46:27 -0600, Kent Finnell
: <kfin...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: >Jim Kennemur wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> Well, well, well. House claims that there were no death showers at
: >> Auschwitz. Brother Malcolm was right.
: >>
: >> Jim
: >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
: >> "Good Massa" always heard just what he wanted to
: >> hear from these "house" and "yard" negroes.
: >> "You're such a good, fine Massa!" or
: >> "Massa, those old black nigger fieldhands
: >> out there, they're happy just like they are;
: >> why Massa, they're not intelligent enough for
: >> you to try and do any better for them, massa-"
: >>
: >> Malcolm Little
: >> The Autobiography of Malcolm X
: >> Chapter 14
: >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
: >
: >Tell me, Jim, would you be brave enough to call Chris Morton "nigger" to
: >his face? Somehow I doubt it.
: Why. Are you his manager?
Thats a "no", eh KKKennemur? Nobody said you supremacists were brave.
: >Riddle me this: Why do Klansmen wear pointy little hoods?
: >
: >Answer: To cover their pointy little heads. Right, pinhead?
: Sorry Kent. I support civil rights, voting rights and Affirmative
: action. Ask Morton what the most important issue today is and he will
: slobber on about GUNS!
Let's see what Jim KKKennemur thinks is pro-civil rights:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: Ask him why he posted that there were no showers in the Nazi death
: camp at Auschwitz.
I'll ask you for proof, but you've never ever provided any, so why would
you start now?
: If you support House then your favorite issue must be asshole rights.
: But to each his own.
Yes, I'm sure Morton would defend the rights of an asshole like you.
--
"Plus Jim [Kennemur] does not call all blacks he disagrees with house
niggers Jim [Kennemur] calls house niggers that he disagrees with house
niggers. -- Shawn Smith <ssh...@ccsi.com> "What I like about niggers is
they make me look smart" -- Shawn Smith <adun...@aol.com>
scot...@maine.maine.edu
Ah, at last Discipio admits in the subject heading that the lie of the day
is that Kennemur lies. Now if only he could get his keyboard from getting
stuck on that "k" letter. Perhaps Discipio is advertising for an
organization ;)
Chris Morton
How does it feel to play Rudolf Hess to Kennemur's Hitler?
They say that Hess was insane too....
---
"Here is the point: the most vile evil people ever are more polite on
the net than Keith and Mort. Scott you are smart, is that an
endorsement of the nazis or does it merely suggest that one man
believes that Keith and co.are worse than the nazis when it comes to
being impolite. But, boy can they twist stuff that Rack sez or what?"
Shawn Smith explains above why he thinks that the National Alliance
neo-Nazis who advocate a resumption of the Holocaust, are "polite".
Chris Morton
>On Sat, 22 Feb 97 18:33:52 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>
>>Ah, at last Discipio admits in the subject heading that the lie of the day
>>is that Kennemur lies. Now if only he could get his keyboard from getting
>>stuck on that "k" letter. Perhaps Discipio is advertising for an
>>organization ;)
>
>
>Naw. That would be aSSSholes of Amerika if Willie was working for
>them.
So then, the only way you'll ever like him is if he starts screaming
"nigger" at Black people who won't obey him... the way you do?
William R. Discipio Jr
Jim Kennemur (volt...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: On Sat, 22 Feb 97 18:33:52 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: >Ah, at last Discipio admits in the subject heading that the lie of the day
: >is that Kennemur lies. Now if only he could get his keyboard from getting
: >stuck on that "k" letter. Perhaps Discipio is advertising for an
: >organization ;)
: Naw. That would be aSSSholes of Amerika if Willie was working for
: them.
: Jim
Jim, I see that you are still too gutless to continue using the racial
slur you are so fond of...
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: Ah, at last Discipio admits in the subject heading that the lie of the day
: is that Kennemur lies. Now if only he could get his keyboard from getting
: stuck on that "k" letter. Perhaps Discipio is advertising for an
: organization ;)
We know that Dr. Propaganda (aka Assistant Professor Scott Erb) is
shilling for the racist KKKennemur.
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5etcj6$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>We know that Dr. Propaganda (aka Assistant Professor Scott Erb) is
>shilling for the racist KKKennemur.
Oh, William, such a clever post! Except, Jim Kennemur isn't a racist at all
(he's just a liberal, and you can't stand those). BTW, you should get your
keyboard fixed. It sticks on the K's and makes it look like you are making
advertisements for the Ku Klux Klan! But then again, by calling non-racists
"racist," and making the label meaningless, you are aiding the Ku Klux Klan.
Maybe THAT is your motive?
cheers, scott
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5etcj6$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >We know that Dr. Propaganda (aka Assistant Professor Scott Erb) is
: >shilling for the racist KKKennemur.
: Oh, William, such a clever post!
Sure Dr. Erb. I noticed you took clever to one step higher by deleting
your initial inane comment. It's very typical of you. That's why you
are called Dr. Propaganda.
: Except, Jim Kennemur isn't a racist at all
: (he's just a liberal, and you can't stand those).
I have immense respect for real liberals. As you are aware, liberalism
by definition precludes bigotry. You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
Why here is one of his more notorious expressions of bigotry. It
contains racial AND political bigotry all in one sentence:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Why you keep trying to defame real liberals is beyond me, Dr. Propaganda.
: BTW, you should get your
: keyboard fixed. It sticks on the K's and makes it look like you are making
: advertisements for the Ku Klux Klan!
I see you are, by your very own definition, advertising for the Ku Klux
Klan. Good work, Dr. Propaganda. Why don't you now type out thier
entire philosophy in atditon to putting their name out there?
But then again, by calling non-racists
: "racist," and making the label meaningless, you are aiding the Ku Klux Klan.
: Maybe THAT is your motive?
Why do you continue to call racists, non-racist? Are you trying to
trivialize the racism of the left wing? The racism that evokes a
knee-jerk response of 'race traitor' or 'house nigger' to any black who
disagrees with your left wing agenda of destroying the black
communities?
: cheers, scott
Adios, Bill
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
Only by you ;) You seem to feel that the bigger the lie, the more people
will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
true.
> You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
Liar. I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
mislead lurkers. Too bad.
Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
own personal feelings is disgusting.
**********************************************
Scott Erb
Assistant Professor of Political Science
U. of Maine - Farmington
Farmington ME 04938
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
: Only by you ;)
Again you lie. You know that Keith Jackson coined the moniker so
appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
Propaganda but such obvious lies?
: You seem to feel that the bigger the lie, the more people
: will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
: true.
Tell us again how this person is a "non-racist", Dr. Propaganda:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: > You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
: Liar.
You don't recognize this as bigotry?!:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
C'mon Dr. Propaganda. Quit lying.
: I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
: believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
: mislead lurkers. Too bad.
Too bad that you deny that Jim Kennemur is a bigot and a racist. Too bad
you try to make apologies for this spewing done by Kennemur:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Too bad that you have nothing to say about Jim Kennemur's repeated
calling Morton 'House' and his making of massa jokes. Too bad you
consider it non-racist. Too bad you shame the left wing with your claims
that the behavior of Jim Kennemur is that of a 'non-racist.'
: Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
: own personal feelings is disgusting.
Too bad you consider this an expression of 'non-racism' by the
'non-racist' Jim Kennemur:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
It does speak volumes of your own feelings towards black people.
Does anybody buy the BS you spew in your classes, Professor Propaganda?
Or do they reject it just like we reject it here?
: **********************************************
: Scott Erb
: Assistant Professor of Political Science
: U. of Maine - Farmington
: Farmington ME 04938
Ooooh, he's throwing around his title again. <snicker>
Chris Morton
On Mon, 24 Feb 97 22:24:03 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>In article <5etcj6$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>>We know that Dr. Propaganda (aka Assistant Professor Scott Erb) is
>>shilling for the racist KKKennemur.
>
>Oh, William, such a clever post! Except, Jim Kennemur isn't a racist at all
>(he's just a liberal, and you can't stand those). BTW, you should get your
Oh yeah Dr. Mengele, he's one of those SPECIAL "liberals" who call
Black people "niggers" when they won't obey a White supremacist
without question.
How much does Ernst Zundel pay you?
Dick Lander
> In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
>
> Only by you ;) You seem to feel that the bigger the lie, the more people
> will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
> true.
>
> > You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
>
> Liar. I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
> believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
> mislead lurkers. Too bad.
>
> Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
> own personal feelings is disgusting.
>
> **********************************************
> Scott Erb
> Assistant Professor of Political Science
> U. of Maine - Farmington
> Farmington ME 04938
Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
understand about this?
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
That's Jim Kennemur, Prof. Well?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
--Joseph Sobran
Gail Thaler
people Nazis, KKK, church-burners, misandrists, etc? To accuse
people of burning down black churches? And after weeks and months,
people are not supposed to fight back in kind?
Morton and Discipio trivialize racism and Naziism.
Do you want to jump on that bandwagon?
Interesting sig, seeing that is exactly what Morton and Discipio
are trying to do to Jim and to the people who don't swallow their
lies.
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
> Macintosh devotee, proponent
> of personal liberty.
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> "The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
> on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
> --Joseph Sobran
a
a
Gail Thaler
William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
>
> scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
> : In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> : > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
>
> : Only by you ;)
>
> appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
> Propaganda but such obvious lies?
>
Keith did NOT coin the expression. Morton did. Keith has specifically
disavowed Morton's Nazi analogies.
All of the other right-wingers who are delighting in Jim's use of
the term house n and calling him a racist are not going as far as
you and Morton in calling people Nazis.
But I will give you and Chris the benefit of the doubt. I am sure
that when you take your medication you are fine.
Scott D. Erb
In article <331437...@best.com>, scri...@best.com says...
>
>Dick Lander wrote:
Quite true about his sig! It's clear that the term in question that Jim
used, "house nigger," which comes from a phrase used by radical blacks to
criticize other blacks which helped continue oppression by working with their
masters, is controversial.
I personally would not use it, I believe a number of us -- you and Kevin and
others, also claim we didn't like the use of the term. There could be a good
discussion on that issue.
But the goal of William, Chris and apparently this Dick guy is simply to try
to use that use of a term to smear and silence people they disagree with.
The tactic seems to be that if they can get someone to insult them in the way
they insult others, they can try to use that post over and over to try to
show that the person is bad or rotten. Those tactics probably worked when
the internet was new, and people didn't know how to filter out what they
read. But obviously things have changed.
Given that William or Chris never seem to discuss real issues, but simply
engage in ad hominems to try to drown out and silence real discourse, your
point about the irony of Dick's sig file is very appropriate!
cheers, scott
Sam A. Kersh
scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D. Erb) wrote:
>Quite true about his sig! It's clear that the term in question that Jim
>used, "house nigger," which comes from a phrase used by radical blacks to
>criticize other blacks which helped continue oppression by working with their
>masters, is controversial.
>
No, historically, "house nigger" comes from the old South. There were
"house niggers" (servants) and "field niggers" who took the beating and
abuse and did the work. But don't forget, to the owner, they were all
valuable "livestock;" worth about $1,000 for a young black male.
Sam A. Kersh
NRA Life Member
TSRA
===============================================================
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Note: in off-seasons, substitute "fishing" for "hunting"
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Kent Finnell
Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:13:54 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
> wrote:
>
> >Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
> >understand about this?
> >Loser, geek, nerd, dork fruit computer devotee, proponent
> >of gun, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, and guns.
> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> >on America. It means that you recognize that gun nuts rule."
> > --NRA
>
> Gosh, I understand you are a kook, what else is there to understand?
>
> Shawn Smith
And everyone understands that you are a chronic liar who alters posts
when you cannot logically debate someone. I'd suggest that you not try
that with someone's check ... it's called forgery and it IS against the
law ... never mind, forget I said that. Try it with somebody's check.
--
Kent Finnell
Dream Ticket 2000: Fred Dalton Thompson & J.C. Watts
William R. Discipio Jr
What a pathetic racist you are.
Sh...@dis.com wrote:
: How can you tell the difference between a house nigger and a field
: slave? When the master's house mysteriously catches fire the house
: nigger prays for rain and the field slaves pray for wind.
: X said that, so don't go saying shawn said this and it is racist, you
: lame fucks.
William R. Discipio Jr
Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
: Dick Lander wrote:
: >
: >
: > > In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: > > > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
: > >
: > > will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
: > > true.
: > >
: > > > You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
: > >
: > > Liar. I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
: > > believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
: > > mislead lurkers. Too bad.
: > >
: > > Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
: > > own personal feelings is disgusting.
: > >
: > > **********************************************
: > > Scott Erb
: > > Assistant Professor of Political Science
: > > U. of Maine - Farmington
: > > Farmington ME 04938
: > Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
: > understand about this?
: >
: > In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
: > volt...@phoenix.net writes:
: >
: > <snip>
: >
: > >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
: > >NIGGER.
: > > Voltaire
: >
: > That's Jim Kennemur, Prof. Well?
: >
: Oh, I see. It's quite alright for Discipio and Morton to call
: people Nazis, KKK, church-burners, misandrists, etc? To accuse
: people of burning down black churches? And after weeks and months,
: people are not supposed to fight back in kind?
Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
And I have repeatedly demonstrated that Gail is a misandrist. If she
would like the evidence again, I'll gladly post it.
: Morton and Discipio trivialize racism and Naziism.
Gail says that this person is a 'non-racist':
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Then she complains that *other* people trivialize racism. Her bizzare
complaint exemplifies Nazi-esque propaganda.
: Do you want to jump on that bandwagon?
: Interesting sig, seeing that is exactly what Morton and Discipio
: are trying to do to Jim and to the people who don't swallow their
: lies.
You claim it is a lie that Jim is a racist? Sorry, the evidence is
overwhelming:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Even on a daily basis, Kennemur can be seen calling Morton 'house' in
clear reference to his original epithet. There is a difference now,
Kennemur isn't quite so brave to show off his supremacy.
: > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
: > Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
: > Macintosh devotee, proponent
: > of personal liberty.
: > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
: >
: > "The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
: > on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
: > --Joseph Sobran
: a
: a
William R. Discipio Jr
Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
: William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
: >
: > : In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: > : > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
: >
: > : Only by you ;)
: > Again you lie. You know that Keith Jackson coined the moniker so
: > appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
: > Propaganda but such obvious lies?
: >
: Are you referring to Keith in that last question?
Only you would believe so.
: Keith did NOT coin the expression. Morton did. Keith has specifically
: disavowed Morton's Nazi analogies.
Evidence?
: All of the other right-wingers who are delighting in Jim's use of
: the term house n and calling him a racist are not going as far as
: you and Morton in calling people Nazis.
But many left wingers like you have gone so far to call Jim a
'non-racist' and an 'anti-racist' in light of his repeated use of racist
epithets to attack blacks he hates politically. You see nothing
Nazi-esque about such claims of 'non-racist' and 'anti-racist."
: But I will give you and Chris the benefit of the doubt. I am sure
: that when you take your medication you are fine.
Hey Gail, you want to help out here? There is a racist scumbag who is
known by the alias of Zepp who claims that my wife is not black. I have
bet him $4000 that he is wrong. If his claim that my wife is not black
is correct, then I will give $4000 to his favority charity. If my wife
is black, then the person known by the alias of Zepp will give $4000 to
my favorite charity.
We need somebody that can verify, in person, the validity of Zepp's
claim. You said you are now in the Bay Area. Do you want to act as the
arbitrator?
All joking aside, I think that this challenge between Zepp the racist and
me will have some great advantage for a charity.
Dick Lander
In article <331ae2a4...@netnews2.worldnet.att.net>, * wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:13:54 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
> >understand about this?
> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >Richard W. (Dickhead) Lander; animalkiller,
> >Loser, geek, nerd, dork fruit computer devotee, proponent
> >of gun, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, and guns.
> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> >"The attempt to murder with a gun is the greatest honor you can bestow
> >on America. It means that you recognize that gun nuts rule."
> > --NRA
>
> Gosh, I understand you are a kook, what else is there to understand?
>
> Shawn Smith
Wow, Shawnie, you're really working overtime in your language arts
training, aren't you? You've moved on from simple perversion of sigs to
changing articles into works of total fiction. I've noticed lately that
your style is less and less the article you're quoting, and more and more
lil' ol' you. Is this some type of new cyberpublishing you're into or
something? Seems like an awfully tough way to make a buck, especially for
someone as woefully inadequate in English skills as you.
Ever consider going to college in a non-English-speaking country? Might be
easier for you, you know. :-D
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
A Covenant not to defend oneself from force, by force,
is always void. For...no man can transfer or lay down
his Right to save himself from Death.
--Thomas Hobbes, 17th century English
political philosopher
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
csmk...@flash.net (Sam A. Kersh) was saying...
*No, historically, "house nigger" comes from the old South. There were
*"house niggers" (servants) and "field niggers" who took the beating and
*abuse and did the work. But don't forget, to the owner, they were all
*valuable "livestock;" worth about $1,000 for a young black male.
*Sam A. Kersh
*NRA Life Member
*TSRA
You said nigger, yer a racist nana na nana...
You said nigger, yer a Nazi nana na nana...
You said nigger, yer a knuckle dragging White Supremacsit nana na nana
You said nigger with a NRA tagline, the NRA are all racists nana nana.
You people are SUCH A F**KIN YUCK! :)
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scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5f3cj6$c...@crl13.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
(about Shawn Smith)
>What a pathetic racist you are.
William, given that Shawn, Gail, Kevin, me and many others disagree that
simply using the term "house nigger" makes someone a racist (again, it is a
term many blacks use to describe other blacks), you'll have to do better than
calling names. Jim and the rest of us have repeatedly said that racism was
wrong, Jim has supported affirmative action and other actions against racism,
and while some of us don't like the non-PC language, we recognize that
calling someone a name and being a racist are two different things.
You are swinging away against all of us in a rather lame and useless attempt
to brand people "racist," ignoring all issues and arguments. And, rather
than argue with those who disagree, you call them 'racist,' or a 'shill,' or
'propagandizers,' etc. Don't you see the futility of your tactics? Do you
think you convince anyone? When Morton throws out the insult of 'holocaust
revisionist' to everyone he disagrees with, trivalizing that charge, and you
call everyone racist, trivalizing that charge, you end up supporting those
you claim to be against. That is sad. Ironically, if you'd focus on the
issue of the language used, and say, "OK, Jim isn't likely a racist given his
anti-racist stands, but I find use of the term 'house nigger' offensive for
reasons X,Y, and Z" and honestly engage in a discussion of that issue, some
of us might even agree with that point.
cheers, scott
***************************************************
Scott Erb
Dept. of Political Science
U. of Maine - Farmington
Farmington ME 04992
Sam A. Kersh
rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>..........drivel as usual....................
Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
racists..
Kenneboob, you are the one who needs to read some history on the
subject. The term I've heard radical blacks call moderate blacks is
either 'tom' or 'tomming'... a reference to H. B. Stowe's "Uncle" Tom...
Another language history lesson; blacks were not addressed as "Mr." or
"Mrs"--- but if they were respected by the owners family, they were
often referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt" --- like "Aunt" Jemima..
Gail Thaler
William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
>
> Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
> : William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
> : >
> : > scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
> : > : In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> : > : > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
> : >
> : > : Only by you ;)
> : >
> : > Again you lie. You know that Keith Jackson coined the moniker so
> : > appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
> : > Propaganda but such obvious lies?
> : >
> : Are you referring to Keith in that last question?
>
> Only you would believe so.
>
> : Keith did NOT coin the expression. Morton did. Keith has specifically
> : disavowed Morton's Nazi analogies.
>
> Evidence?
>
Vista News. I wonder why he is not proud of his posts. If he did
coin Scott Dr.Propoganda, he has not gone on to call him a Nazi,
and has, when pressed, disavowed the tactics you and Chris have
used to discredit Jim and others.
> : All of the other right-wingers who are delighting in Jim's use of
> : the term house n and calling him a racist are not going as far as
> : you and Morton in calling people Nazis.
>
> But many left wingers like you have gone so far to call Jim a
> 'non-racist' and an 'anti-racist' in light of his repeated use of racist
> epithets to attack blacks he hates politically.
We call him non-racist and anti-racist in light of his thousands
of other posts decrying the anti-semitic and anti-black right
wing, his support of civil rights, and his support of Affirmative
Action. To people like you, this would make him an anti-WHITE
racist. Why Morton uses you as a source, when Morton claims to
be against anti-semitism, for civil rights, for AA, pro-gay
rights and abortion is beyond me.
You see nothing
> Nazi-esque about such claims of 'non-racist' and 'anti-racist."
>
Trivializing the word "Nazi" is an insult to Jews and Gypsies,
and calling people Klansman and church-burners who are obviously
not trivializes racism.
> : But I will give you and Chris the benefit of the doubt. I am sure
> : that when you take your medication you are fine.
>
> Hey Gail, you want to help out here? There is a racist scumbag who is
> known by the alias of Zepp
Zepp is neither a racist or a scumbag. Evidence, please. I'm sure
Zepp is no coward and has his posts archived.
who claims that my wife is not black. I have
> bet him $4000 that he is wrong. If his claim that my wife is not black
> is correct, then I will give $4000 to his favority charity. If my wife
> is black, then the person known by the alias of Zepp will give $4000 to
> my favorite charity.
>
And that would be the John Birch Society or English Only, or some
anti-affirmative action group? The pro-apartheid party in South
Africa, maybe?
> We need somebody that can verify, in person, the validity of Zepp's
> claim. You said you are now in the Bay Area. Do you want to act as the
> arbitrator?
>
Funny you would trust someone you call a Nazi misandrist. I am not
comfortable with being the race police. I am in violation of the
one-drop rule myself and am a noted race-mixer. I will, however,
meet you and your lovely wife in a public place with a metal
detector.
> All joking aside, I think that this challenge between Zepp the racist and
> me will have some great advantage for a charity.
> --
Zepp is not a racist. Please explain the difference between your
views on Affirmative Action and his.
Call at your convenience.
I have a condition of my own. You must be truthful and post how
attractive and gracious I am in real life.
Gail
Gail Thaler
> : >
> : > In article <5f0bu7$16...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
> : >
> : > > In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> : > > > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
> : > >
> : > > will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
> : > > true.
> : > >
> : > > > You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
> : > >
> : > > Liar. I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
> : > > believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
> : > > mislead lurkers. Too bad.
> : > >
> : > > Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
> : > > own personal feelings is disgusting.
> : > >
> : > > **********************************************
> : > > Scott Erb
> : > > U. of Maine - Farmington
> : >
> : > Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
> : > understand about this?
> : >
> : > In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
> : > volt...@phoenix.net writes:
> : >
> : > <snip>
> : >
> : > >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
> : > >NIGGER.
> : > > Voltaire
> : >
> : > That's Jim Kennemur, Prof. Well?
> : >
> : Oh, I see. It's quite alright for Discipio and Morton to call
> : people Nazis, KKK, church-burners, misandrists, etc? To accuse
> : people of burning down black churches? And after weeks and months,
> : people are not supposed to fight back in kind?
>
> Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
> to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
>
when I asked him straightforwardly how support of an assault
weapons ban automatically made someone a member of the KKK.
Since then, he has continually misrepesented me.
> And I have repeatedly demonstrated that Gail is a misandrist. If she
> would like the evidence again, I'll gladly post it.
>
Please post whatever you like. Many people from your own side have
pointed out you were wrong: Teak, Tarver, and even Wayne Mann,
who put me on his enemies' list.
> : Morton and Discipio trivialize racism and Naziism.
>
> Gail says that this person is a 'non-racist':
>
> In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
> volt...@phoenix.net writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
> >NIGGER.
>
> > Voltaire
>
> Then she complains that *other* people trivialize racism. Her bizzare
> complaint exemplifies Nazi-esque propaganda.
>
Trivialization of Naziism.
Funny you would trust me enough to be an objective adjudicator
in a spat between you and a person on my side.
Funny you would send me warm greetings at Christmas time.
> : Do you want to jump on that bandwagon?
>
> : Interesting sig, seeing that is exactly what Morton and Discipio
> : are trying to do to Jim and to the people who don't swallow their
> : lies.
>
> You claim it is a lie that Jim is a racist? Sorry, the evidence is
> overwhelming:
>
> In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
> volt...@phoenix.net writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
> >NIGGER.
>
> > Voltaire
>
> Even on a daily basis, Kennemur can be seen calling Morton 'house' in
> clear reference to his original epithet. There is a difference now,
> Kennemur isn't quite so brave to show off his supremacy.
>
Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
able to killfile, so he does not engage Morton unless he sees a reply.
As some of us cannot killfile and show a remarkable lack of
self-restraint along with an unrealistic optimism that Morton,
who agrees with us more than he agrees with you, will see the
error of his ways, Jim does see Morton's hyperbole and will
respond in kind.
> : > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5f3cj6$c...@crl13.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: (about Shawn Smith)
: >What a pathetic racist you are.
: William, given that Shawn, Gail, Kevin, me and many others disagree that
: simply using the term "house nigger" makes someone a racist (again, it is a
: term many blacks use to describe other blacks), you'll have to do better than
: calling names.
Let's see what Dr. Propaganda cut out of text. (Note that Dr. Propaganda
repeatedly cuts context out of text.):
Sh...@dis.com wrote:
How can you tell the difference between a house nigger and a field
slave? When the master's house mysteriously catches fire the house
nigger prays for rain and the field slaves pray for wind.
X said that, so don't go saying shawn said this and it is racist, you
lame fucks.
: Jim and the rest of us have repeatedly said that racism was
: wrong,
Liar. You have made this claim before. I have asked you to back it up
with a single shred of evidence that Jim Kennemur speaks out against
racism and has said that racism is wrong. If fact, here are Jim's very
own words:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Now you can continue to argue that the above isn't an expression of
racism by a racist, but you aren't at all convincing.
: Jim has supported affirmative action and other actions against racism,
Jim is a left wing partisan. Of course he supports a racist mechanism
such as affirmative action. He's also a big supporter of the welfare state.
: and while some of us don't like the non-PC language, we recognize that
: calling someone a name and being a racist are two different things.
The very idea that a white left winger like Jim Kennemur can use such
epithets to bash blacks with politics he hates and not be considered a
racist is simply Orwellian. But there you are.
: You are swinging away against all of us in a rather lame and useless attempt
: to brand people "racist," ignoring all issues and arguments.
I have challenged each and every one of your arguments. Yet you still
insist the man who repeatedly calls Morton 'house' in clear reference to
his original insult is a 'non-racist.'
: And, rather
: than argue with those who disagree, you call them 'racist,' or a 'shill,' or
: 'propagandizers,' etc.
I've argued with each and every 'point' you have presented. Yet the only
counter-argument from you looks like the following:
: Don't you see the futility of your tactics? Do you
: think you convince anyone?
You need a new line of propaganda, Dr.
: When Morton throws out the insult of 'holocaust
: revisionist' to everyone he disagrees with,
More lies from Dr. Propaganda. Morton has repeatedly disagreed with many
people without calling them revisionists. He calls people like you who
make the claim that the following insult is not racist, revisionists:
But you knew that alreadly, Dr. Propaganda.
: trivalizing that charge, and you
: call everyone racist, trivalizing that charge, you end up supporting those
: you claim to be against.
Thus asserts Dr.Propaganda. To imply that one can attack blacks you
disagree with with racist insults simply because you disagree with their
politics is a lame excuse for racism.
: That is sad. Ironically, if you'd focus on the
: issue of the language used, and say, "OK, Jim isn't likely a racist given his
: anti-racist stands, but I find use of the term 'house nigger' offensive for
: reasons X,Y, and Z" and honestly engage in a discussion of that issue, some
: of us might even agree with that point.
Jim has also repeatedly made 'shoeshine', 'chitlins', 'massa', and 'lawn
jockey' "jokes" in an attempt to stereotype Morton. He has repeatedly
acussed Morton of being a race traitor. Yet, when asked to back up his
claims, he refuses to do so.
And all the while, we have Dr.Propaganda claiming the man who said this is a
'non-racist ' and an 'anti-racist':
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: cheers, scott
Adios, Bill
: ***************************************************
: Scott Erb
: Dept. of Political Science
: U. of Maine - Farmington
: Farmington ME 04992
Why did you drop your title, Dr.?
Gail Thaler
Sam A. Kersh wrote:
>
> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>
> >..........drivel as usual....................
>
> Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
> about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
> racists..
>
Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
> Kenneboob, you are the one who needs to read some history on the
> subject. The term I've heard radical blacks call moderate blacks is
> either 'tom' or 'tomming'... a reference to H. B. Stowe's "Uncle" Tom...
> Another language history lesson; blacks were not addressed as "Mr." or
> "Mrs"--- but if they were respected by the owners family, they were
> often referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt" --- like "Aunt" Jemima..
>
Jeez, Sam, you left out: "In the good old days...."
Gail
Kent Finnell
Gail Thaler wrote:
Hey, Gail, did you find that post where I called Chris Morton polite?
Or are you waiting for Shawn "Renfro" Smith to make it up?
Kent Finnell
Jim Kennemur wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:39:46 -0600, Kent Finnell
> <kfin...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Sh...@dis.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:13:54 -0500, lan...@inil.com (Dick Lander)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >understand about this?
> >> >Loser, geek, nerd, dork fruit computer devotee, proponent
> >> >of gun, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, and guns.
> >> >
> >> >on America. It means that you recognize that gun nuts rule."
> >> > --NRA
> >>
> >> Gosh, I understand you are a kook, what else is there to understand?
> >>
> >> Shawn Smith
> >
> >when you cannot logically debate someone. I'd suggest that you not try
> >that with someone's check ... it's called forgery and it IS against the
> >law ... never mind, forget I said that. Try it with somebody's check.
> >--
> >Kent Finnell
>
>
> Such Logic!
I know it is difficult for you to follow a single thought, Jim, but try
re-reading my jibe at Shawn "Renfro" Smith.
>
> Jim
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> "Good Massa" always heard just what he wanted to
> hear from these "house" and "yard" negroes.
> "You're such a good, fine Massa!" or
> "Massa, those old black nigger fieldhands
> out there, they're happy just like they are;
> why Massa, they're not intelligent enough for
> you to try and do any better for them, massa-"
>
> Malcolm Little
> The Autobiography of Malcolm X
> Chapter 14
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
William R. Discipio Jr
Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
: Sam A. Kersh wrote:
: >
: > rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
: >
: > >..........drivel as usual....................
: >
: > Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
: > about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
: > racists..
: >
: And now a Queen.
: Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
What did you consider his "hymie town" remark, Gail? Pro-Jewish?
William R. Discipio Jr
Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:: > : William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
: > : >
: > : > scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: > : > : In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: > : > : > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
: > : >
: > : > : Only by you ;)
: > : > Again you lie. You know that Keith Jackson coined the moniker so
: > : > appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
: > : > Propaganda but such obvious lies?
: > : >
: > : Are you referring to Keith in that last question?
: >
: > Only you would believe so.
: >
: > : Keith did NOT coin the expression. Morton did. Keith has specifically
: > : disavowed Morton's Nazi analogies.
: >
: > Evidence?
: >
: Mr.Jackson does not have his posts archived in DejaNews or Alta
: Vista News.
So what? Nothing has prevented you from archiving posts which will help
you prove your point (which you have not done).
But you do support my point that Erb is lying when he claims that I am
the only one who called him Dr. Propaganda.
: I wonder why he is not proud of his posts. If he did
: coin Scott Dr.Propoganda, he has not gone on to call him a Nazi,
: and has, when pressed, disavowed the tactics you and Chris have
: used to discredit Jim and others.
I'm sorry you feel that quiting someone directly is a tactic which should
be disavowed when discrediting someone.
: > : All of the other right-wingers who are delighting in Jim's use of
: > : the term house n and calling him a racist are not going as far as
: > : you and Morton in calling people Nazis.
: >
: > But many left wingers like you have gone so far to call Jim a
: > 'non-racist' and an 'anti-racist' in light of his repeated use of racist
: > epithets to attack blacks he hates politically.
: We call him non-racist and anti-racist in light of his thousands
: of other posts decrying the anti-semitic and anti-black right
: wing, his support of civil rights, and his support of Affirmative
: Action.
There you have it. Thaler considers Jim's repeated condemnations of the
right wing to be a condemnation of anti-semitics and anti-blacks. She
admits that she calls Kennemur an 'anti-racist' because he condmens
the right wing.
Pure partisan hatred. Note that Thaler has not seen fit to condemn Jim's
racism shown below:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: To people like you, this would make him an anti-WHITE
: racist.
Speak for yourself. Jim's racism is reinforced by his support of
affirmative actions and rejection of this law:
The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment
to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity,
or national origin in the operation of public employment, public
education, or public contracting.
: Why Morton uses you as a source, when Morton claims to
: be against anti-semitism, for civil rights, for AA, pro-gay
: rights and abortion is beyond me.
It has to do with the fact you are confused and think the following is
an expresson of 'anti-racism':
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: You see nothing
: > Nazi-esque about such claims of 'non-racist' and 'anti-racist."
: >
: Trivializing the word "Nazi" is an insult to Jews and Gypsies,
: and calling people Klansman and church-burners who are obviously
: not trivializes racism.
Calling racists 'non-racists' is Nazi-esque propaganda. You have
repeatedly done so.
: > : But I will give you and Chris the benefit of the doubt. I am sure
: > : that when you take your medication you are fine.
: >
: > Hey Gail, you want to help out here? There is a racist scumbag who is
: > known by the alias of Zepp
: Zepp is neither a racist or a scumbag. Evidence, please. I'm sure
: Zepp is no coward and has his posts archived.
Of course you don't think so. You have a tough time seeing the racism in
this statement:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: who claims that my wife is not black. I have
: > bet him $4000 that he is wrong. If his claim that my wife is not black
: > is correct, then I will give $4000 to his favority charity. If my wife
: > is black, then the person known by the alias of Zepp will give $4000 to
: > my favorite charity.
: >
: And that would be the John Birch Society or English Only, or some
: anti-affirmative action group? The pro-apartheid party in South
: Africa, maybe?
Calling non-racists racist trivializes racism. And you are now
insinuating that I am a racist. Perhaps you'd like to match Zepp's bet?
: > We need somebody that can verify, in person, the validity of Zepp's
: > claim. You said you are now in the Bay Area. Do you want to act as the
: > arbitrator?
: >
: Funny you would trust someone you call a Nazi misandrist. I am not
: comfortable with being the race police. I am in violation of the
: one-drop rule myself and am a noted race-mixer. I will, however,
: meet you and your lovely wife in a public place with a metal
: detector.
Wonderful, let's meet inside the United Airlines departure lounge this
weekend. I take it you trust their metal detectors and other screening
mechanisms.
: > All joking aside, I think that this challenge between Zepp the racist and
: > me will have some great advantage for a charity.
: > --
: Zepp is not a racist. Please explain the difference between your
: views on Affirmative Action and his.
Affirmative action is racist. I am totally opposed to the present day
implementation of it. I suppor the California Civil Rights Law. Zepp
supports affirmative actions which is an admission that some minorities
and women are inferior and cannot compete with the rest of society. Zepp
is vehemently against this law:
The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment
to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity,
or national origin in the operation of public employment, public
education, or public contracting.
: Call at your convenience.
I don't know your number. Why don't you just specify a time that we can
meet downstream of the metal detectors at the UA terminal at SFO? And
let me know if you'd also like to match Zepp's bet of $4000 that my wife
is not black.
$8000 to a good charity will really help out.
: I have a condition of my own. You must be truthful and post how
: attractive and gracious I am in real life.
Hey, if you really are different than the image you present here, I'll be
the first to admit it.
: Gail
Gail Thaler
William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
>
> Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
> : William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
> : >
> : > scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
> : > : In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> : > : > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
> : >
> : > : Only by you ;)
> : >
> : > Again you lie. You know that Keith Jackson coined the moniker so
> : > appropriate for you. But... what does one expect from a guy known as Dr.
> : > Propaganda but such obvious lies?
> : >
> : Are you referring to Keith in that last question?
>
> Only you would believe so.
>
> : Keith did NOT coin the expression. Morton did. Keith has specifically
> : disavowed Morton's Nazi analogies.
>
> Evidence?
Keith prevents his posts from being archived. I wonder why he's
not proud of his posts.
> : All of the other right-wingers who are delighting in Jim's use of
> : the term house n and calling him a racist are not going as far as
> : you and Morton in calling people Nazis.
>
> But many left wingers like you have gone so far to call Jim a
> 'non-racist' and an 'anti-racist' in light
Of hundreds of his anti-racist posts. But you knew that, didn't you?
of his repeated use of racist
> epithets to attack blacks he hates politically. You see nothing
> Nazi-esque about such claims of 'non-racist' and 'anti-racist."
>
I find his use of house n and such imagery politically incorrect
but not evidence of Naziism. You trivialize Naziism.
> : But I will give you and Chris the benefit of the doubt. I am sure
> : that when you take your medication you are fine.
>
> Hey Gail, you want to help out here? There is a racist scumbag who is
> known by the alias of Zepp
Zepp is no scumbag and no racist and probably not too cowardly to
have his posts archived. Please provide some evidence.
who claims that my wife is not black. I have
> bet him $4000 that he is wrong. If his claim that my wife is not black
> is correct, then I will give $4000 to his favority charity. If my wife
> is black, then the person known by the alias of Zepp will give $4000 to
> my favorite charity.
>
That would be the John Birch Society, some pro-apartheid group
in South Africa, some anti-Affirmative Action group here?
> We need somebody that can verify, in person, the validity of Zepp's
> claim. You said you are now in the Bay Area. Do you want to act as the
> arbitrator?
>
Funny you would trust someone you call a liar, a misandrist and a
Nazi. Those are just some of the nice things you've called me.
I am not comfortable with being the race police. I am in violation
of the one-drop rule and a noted race-mixer myself. I don't see
what the color of your wife's skin has to do with anything, but I
will be glad to meet you both in a public place with a metal detector.
> All joking aside, I think that this challenge between Zepp the racist and
> me will have some great advantage for a charity.
> --
The way you "joke" about racism and Naziism is sickening.
I won't go to your usual hangout, the Brass Rail.
a
Kevin Kelly
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
Scott you points will be lost on Dippy. Like all bigotted bully facts and
honesty are not something they can appreciate. I think the best avenue for
dealing with Dippy is simply to ignore him. We have made our points and
it's clear he has no interest in an actual discussion. I think his
motivation is to occupy the time of his opponents by having them respond
to his vile and bogus accusations as opposed to getting into real
discussions. I think Morton and Jackson fall in the same boat with some
small glimmer of hope on Jackson's part that he may be able to actually
discuss an issue. Morton and Discipio however make "Mr. Sam" look like a
skilled debater.
What do you think?
: In article <5f3cj6$c...@crl13.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: (about Shawn Smith)
: >What a pathetic racist you are.
: William, given that Shawn, Gail, Kevin, me and many others disagree that
: simply using the term "house nigger" makes someone a racist (again, it is a
: term many blacks use to describe other blacks), you'll have to do better than
: calling names. Jim and the rest of us have repeatedly said that racism was
: wrong, Jim has supported affirmative action and other actions against racism,
: and while some of us don't like the non-PC language, we recognize that
: calling someone a name and being a racist are two different things.
: You are swinging away against all of us in a rather lame and useless attempt
: to brand people "racist," ignoring all issues and arguments. And, rather
: than argue with those who disagree, you call them 'racist,' or a 'shill,' or
: 'propagandizers,' etc. Don't you see the futility of your tactics? Do you
: think you convince anyone? When Morton throws out the insult of 'holocaust
: revisionist' to everyone he disagrees with, trivalizing that charge, and you
: call everyone racist, trivalizing that charge, you end up supporting those
: you claim to be against. That is sad. Ironically, if you'd focus on the
: issue of the language used, and say, "OK, Jim isn't likely a racist given his
: anti-racist stands, but I find use of the term 'house nigger' offensive for
: reasons X,Y, and Z" and honestly engage in a discussion of that issue, some
: of us might even agree with that point.
: cheers, scott
Zepp
On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
Jr) wrote:
>Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
>: Dick Lander wrote:
>: >
>: > In article <5f0bu7$16...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>: >
>: > > In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>: > > > That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
>: > >
>: > > Only by you ;) You seem to feel that the bigger the lie, the more people
>: > > will believe you. But as you can see by the reactions you get, that's not
>: > > true.
>: > >
>: > > > You know quite well Jim is a bigot.
>: > >
>: > > Liar. I know that you lie about Jim over and over and expect people to
>: > > believe it. But enough of us have called you on it to make sure you don't
>: > > mislead lurkers. Too bad.
>: > >
>: > > Your trivialization of racism by calling non-racists "racist" because of your
>: > > own personal feelings is disgusting.
>: > >
>: > > **********************************************
>: > > Scott Erb
>: > > Assistant Professor of Political Science
>: > > U. of Maine - Farmington
>: > > Farmington ME 04938
>: >
>: > Good thing you're a prof of PS and not English. What is it that you don't
>: > understand about this?
>: >
>: > In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
>: > volt...@phoenix.net writes:
>: >
>: > <snip>
>: >
>: > >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>: > >NIGGER.
>: > > Voltaire
>: >
>: > That's Jim Kennemur, Prof. Well?
>: >
>: Oh, I see. It's quite alright for Discipio and Morton to call
>: people Nazis, KKK, church-burners, misandrists, etc? To accuse
>: people of burning down black churches? And after weeks and months,
>: people are not supposed to fight back in kind?
>
>Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
>to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
say "The Truth hurts"!
>
>
snip Dippy bullshit.
Ding Dong, the Deng is Dead!
Dick Lander
In article <5f1ju5$1h...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, scot...@maine.maine.edu
(Scott D. Erb) wrote:
> In article <331437...@best.com>, scri...@best.com says...
> >
> >Dick Lander wrote:
(snip)
> >> "The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
> >> on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
> >> --Joseph Sobran
>
> Quite true about his sig! It's clear that the term in question that Jim
> used, "house nigger," which comes from a phrase used by radical blacks to
> criticize other blacks which helped continue oppression by working with their
> masters, is controversial.
>
> I personally would not use it, I believe a number of us -- you and Kevin and
> others, also claim we didn't like the use of the term. There could be a good
> discussion on that issue.
>
> But the goal of William, Chris and apparently this Dick guy is simply to try
> to use that use of a term to smear and silence people they disagree with.
Your tunnel vision is acute, prof. Very interesting that you benignly decry
the use of the term, yet you condemn those criticizing the users more than
the users themselves. Very curious--and appropriately self-serving for your
"side."
> The tactic seems to be that if they can get someone to insult them in the way
> they insult others, they can try to use that post over and over to try to
> show that the person is bad or rotten.
<Get someone to insult them>?? ROFL! Very humorous, prof. How many posts
have you seen wherein someone asked to be addressed with a racial slur?
What newsgroup are <you> reading?
> Those tactics probably worked when
> the internet was new, and people didn't know how to filter out what they
> read. But obviously things have changed.
Really? And when did you become the voice of experience about the 'net?
> Given that William or Chris never seem to discuss real issues, but simply
> engage in ad hominems to try to drown out and silence real discourse, your
> point about the irony of Dick's sig file is very appropriate!
> cheers, scott
Your apparent ability to totally ignore the opposing side of an issue must
make you one helluva comprehensive educator. "Today's topic, class...the
Erb theory. Tomorrow's class...the Erb theory. Next week's class...the Erb
theory." Now there's diversity!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Richard W. (Dick) Lander; sportsman,
Macintosh devotee, proponent
of personal liberty.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow
Kent Finnell
Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:39:46 -0600, Kent Finnell
> <kfin...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >when I cannot logically debate someone.
>
> Kent, nice of you to come clean. Oh for the really dumb people (see
> Kent) I altered what is above to be funny. Kent I hope you are cute,
> 'cause if not you got one bad combo. LOL.
>
> Shawn Smith
Then I'm one bad combo! I don't crack mirrors, fighten small children or
break cameras, but I am ... unique, yeah, that's the ticket, unique.
Short, overweight, short legs, long torso and arms, Kenny Rogers white
hair and beard. I've had people who last saw me in the first grade (50
years ago) stop me in the grocery and call me by name! (And no, I
didn't have the beard then and the hair was a mouse light brown and when
I was six I wore a full length brace on my right leg).
Altering posts is, at best, dishonorable, Renfro.
Kent Finnell
Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:38:12 GMT, volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim
> Kennemur) wrote:
>
> >Following one of your tiny thoughts is a lot like following the
> >elephants in the circus parade, Kent. You have got to really watch
> >where you step.
> >
> >Whoops. There is another pile of finnell. Glad I didn't step in it!
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
> Jim, you should be a comedian.
>
Well, he's half way there ... he's a joke.
Scott D. Erb
In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
lan...@inil.com says...
>Your apparent ability to totally ignore the opposing side of an issue must
>make you one helluva comprehensive educator.
Criticism I do not condemn. The type of smears, lies, and attacks that
you call mere "criticism" I do condemn. It is not appropriate discourse.
cheers, scott
********************************************************
Scott Erb
Dept. of Political Science
Scott D. Erb
In article <5f57q6$m...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>: Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
>
>What did you consider his "hymie town" remark, Gail? Pro-Jewish?
Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
Asians and others are also Jews.
cheers, scott
Sam A. Kersh
Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com> wrote:
>Sam A. Kersh wrote:
>>
>> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>>
>> >..........drivel as usual....................
>>
>> Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
>> about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
>> racists..
>>
>And now a Queen.
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
Yes. Don't you recall his reference to Noo York City as Hymietown? He
and Farakan are very anti-Semetic. Racism and bigotry is not a "white
thing," it has to do with your mind and heart, regardless of ethnic
background.
>
>> Kenneboob, you are the one who needs to read some history on the
>> subject. The term I've heard radical blacks call moderate blacks is
>> either 'tom' or 'tomming'... a reference to H. B. Stowe's "Uncle" Tom...
>> Another language history lesson; blacks were not addressed as "Mr." or
>> "Mrs"--- but if they were respected by the owners family, they were
>> often referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt" --- like "Aunt" Jemima..
>>
>
>Jeez, Sam, you left out: "In the good old days...."
>
Your assuming that just because I'm not an ignorant racist like your
friends I think racism or slavery is a good thing. Typical--
William R. Discipio Jr
Scott D. Erb (scot...@maine.maine.edu) wrote:
: In article <5f57q6$m...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >: Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
: >
: >What did you consider his "hymie town" remark, Gail? Pro-Jewish?
: Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
: Asians and others are also Jews.
So your suggestion is that Jesse Jackson should be called an anti-semitic
person rather than a racist, correct?
: cheers, scott
Kevin Kelly
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: say "The Truth hurts"!
This is funny.
---
If there is a God, atheism must strike Him
as less of an insult than religion.
--Edmond and Jules De Goncourt
Sam A. Kersh
volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim Kennemur) wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:17:31 GMT, csmk...@flash.net (Sam A. Kersh)
>wrote:
>
>>rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>>
>>>..........drivel as usual....................
>>
>>Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
>>about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
>>racists..
>>
>>Kenneboob, you are the one who needs to read some history on the
>>subject. The term I've heard radical blacks call moderate blacks is
>>either 'tom' or 'tomming'... a reference to H. B. Stowe's "Uncle" Tom...
>>Another language history lesson; blacks were not addressed as "Mr." or
>>"Mrs"--- but if they were respected by the owners family, they were
>>often referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt" --- like "Aunt" Jemima..
>>
>>Sam A. Kersh
>>NRA Life Member
>>TSRA
>
>So the name Malcolm Little doesn't ring your dim little gun loon bell?
>
False assumption made without relavant data on your part. So what else
is new?
> Jim
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>"Good Massa" always heard just what he wanted to
>hear from these "house" and "yard" negroes.
>"You're such a good, fine Massa!" or
>"Massa, those old black nigger fieldhands
>out there, they're happy just like they are;
>why Massa, they're not intelligent enough for
>you to try and do any better for them, massa-"
>
> Malcolm Little
> The Autobiography of Malcolm X
> Chapter 14
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Sam A. Kersh
Scott D. Erb
In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
>: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
>: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
>: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
>: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
>: say "The Truth hurts"!
>This is funny.
Hilarious.
Kevin Kelly
Keith Jackson (s...@sig.I.hate.spam) wrote:
: In article <5f7dcs$2a...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, at Fri, 28 Feb 97 15:02:51 EST,
: Scott D. Erb <scot...@maine.maine.edu> muttered:
: >In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
: >>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >>: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: >>: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: >>: say "The Truth hurts"!
: >>This is funny.
: >Hilarious.
: I'm slapping my knee and getting a great belly laugh
Coool.
: watching you guys
: display your transparent McCarthyite selves.
Sort of like the person who said this:
"Although it does make a bit of sense that Kilpartick really is Mason
given that Kilpartrick is another vile leftist racist who recently used
to post from George Mason University."
5f6rc2$4...@crl7.crl.com
Are you going to call Discipio a McCarthite or show how you are a
hypcorite again? Remember Keith you said conjecture like the above was
McCarthyism. Here let me remind you:
----
Keith Jackson (s...@sig.I.hate.spam) wrote:
: In article <5dm3sj$t...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, at Sun, 09 Feb 97 22:17:11
EST,
: <scot...@maine.maine.edu> muttered:
: >In article <5dlneg$4...@crl10.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >>It is because KKKennemur is a left wing democrat, like yourself.
: >Say, Discipio -- you're now back, and Truth Mason is gone.
Coincidence?
: Say, Erb, aren't you above this sort of shameless McCarthyism?
----
Well Keith, show us that integrity you keep claiming you have yet is never
seen. I can see Keith lacing up those net.running shoes now.
Chris Morton
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:12:40 GMT, Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Feb 97 22:52:27 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>
>>In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>>> That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
>>
>>Only by you ;)
>
>Some of us call you Dr. KickAss :)
That's Kissass
>
>Dippy we just call dumb.
Black people you just call "niggers".
So, why do you support racial concentration camps?
--
"Here is the point: the most vile evil people ever are more polite on
the net than Keith and Mort. Scott you are smart, is that an
endorsement of the nazis or does it merely suggest that one man
believes that Keith and co.are worse than the nazis when it comes to
being impolite. But, boy can they twist stuff that Rack sez or what?"
Shawn Smith explains above why he thinks that the National Alliance
neo-Nazis who advocate a resumption of the Holocaust, are "polite".
William R. Discipio Jr
: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: >: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
: >: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
: >: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: >: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: >: say "The Truth hurts"!
Don't project Zepp. Just because you may forget you are logged on
doesn't mean that anybody else in the world forgets they are logged on.
But I notice that Zepp is willing to try anything to get out of putting
his money where his racist mouth is. $4000 says you are full of shit
when you lie about my wife not being black. You have shown yourself to
be a gutless wonder once again.
: >This is funny.
: Hilarious.
William R. Discipio Jr
Jim Kennemur (volt...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: He meant to say Morton and "The Truth Mason." The same Truth Mason
: that disappears whenever Dippy posts and vice versa!
Kennemur, are you claiming that I am Truth Mason?
: Jim
Kent Finnell
Jim Kennemur wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:06:38 -0600, Kent Finnell
> <kfin...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Sh...@dis.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:38:12 GMT, volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim
> >> Kennemur) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Following one of your tiny thoughts is a lot like following the
> >> >elephants in the circus parade, Kent. You have got to really watch
> >> >where you step.
> >> >
> >> >Whoops. There is another pile of finnell. Glad I didn't step in it!
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >>
> >> Jim, you should be a comedian.
> >>
> >Well, he's half way there ... he's a joke.
>
> out much in College Station. Except for trips to the pound.
Well, someone has to feed your mother, Jim. Keith has compassion for
dumb animals.
>
> Jim
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> I'll try to be nicer if you'll try to be smarter.
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
You're 'way behind on this exchange, Jimbo.
William R. Discipio Jr
Rack Jite (rack...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: JUST LIKE YOU DO, WHO STARTED ALL THIS CRYING TO PROVIDERS CRAP DO, he
: complained to the guys PROVIDER, it HAPPENED to be his employer. WHAT
: GOES AROUND COMES AROUND YOU LYING LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT. :)
: Keep living in this fantasyland of yers here where you little netscabs
: are the majority, or even a viable minority for that matter, and think
: yall are the way, the light and truth. If ya didnt, yall would be
: back under that slimey rock you came out from under never be seen
: again.
: Its a real simple process that's going on here Keefy. In fact it
: proves my point that the centerpiece of conservative politics
: is HATING LIBERALS (though turing AM radio usually proves the point
: every 20 seconds)more than any other issue.
: Its a concerted effort by you little right-wing and looneytarian
: netscabs to do everything you can to discredit, libel and intimidate
: any liberal who speaks up to your disgusting crap.
: You pretty well had control a few years ago. In fact it was just me,
: and your heads were SO BIG, that anyone else making any waves against
: you at all HAD TO ALSO BE ME USING OTHER ACCOUNTS! :) Gosh...
: But of late more and more have decided not to ignore you and speak
: out. Looks to me you cant even count the people who are now on your
: enemy list. :) Keeps ya busy hey? :)
: ---
Wow! There are some real nutcases out there!
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
s...@sig.I.hate.spam (Keith Jackson) was saying...
*In any event, Jim Kennemur has publicly bragged about calling a guy's
*boss to keep him from posting from work.
JUST LIKE YOU DO, WHO STARTED ALL THIS CRYING TO PROVIDERS CRAP DO, he
complained to the guys PROVIDER, it HAPPENED to be his employer. WHAT
GOES AROUND COMES AROUND YOU LYING LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT. :)
Keep living in this fantasyland of yers here where you little netscabs
are the majority, or even a viable minority for that matter, and think
yall are the way, the light and truth. If ya didnt, yall would be
back under that slimey rock you came out from under never be seen
again.
Its a real simple process that's going on here Keefy. In fact it
proves my point that the centerpiece of conservative politics
is HATING LIBERALS (though turing AM radio usually proves the point
every 20 seconds)more than any other issue.
Its a concerted effort by you little right-wing and looneytarian
netscabs to do everything you can to discredit, libel and intimidate
any liberal who speaks up to your disgusting crap.
You pretty well had control a few years ago. In fact it was just me,
and your heads were SO BIG, that anyone else making any waves against
you at all HAD TO ALSO BE ME USING OTHER ACCOUNTS! :) Gosh...
But of late more and more have decided not to ignore you and speak
out. Looks to me you cant even count the people who are now on your
enemy list. :) Keeps ya busy hey? :)
---
While Political Correctness concerns nonjudicial, moaning and groaning,
Conservative Correctness concerns the click of safeties and jail cell doors.
-----------------------------
Conservatively Incorrect - http://www.c2.org/~ccrj/
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <kj4bfb3...@news.tamu.edu>, s...@sig.I.hate.spam says...
>
>In article <5f7dcs$2a...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, at Fri, 28 Feb 97 15:02:51 EST,
>Scott D. Erb <scot...@maine.maine.edu> muttered:
>>>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>>>: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
>>>: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
>>>: say "The Truth hurts"!
>
>
>>Hilarious.
>
>I'm slapping my knee and getting a great belly laugh watching you guys
>display your transparent McCarthyite selves.
Hmmmm...
We call something 'funny and hilarious'.
Hardly much of a "McCarthylike" attack.
But you call it transparent McCarthyism.
So who is being more "McCarthylike." Although Keith doesn't like it when I
do this, I leave it to readers themselves to decide.
cheers, scott
Kevin Kelly
Keith Jackson (s...@sig.I.hate.spam) wrote:
: In article <5f7oua$i19$3...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, at 28 Feb 1997 23:15:22 GMT,
: Kevin Kelly <kke...@nntp.best.com> muttered:
: >Keith Jackson (s...@sig.I.hate.spam) wrote:
: >: In article <5f7dcs$2a...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, at Fri, 28 Feb 97 15:02:51 EST,
: >: Scott D. Erb <scot...@maine.maine.edu> muttered:
: >: >In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
: >: >>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >: >>: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: >: >>: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: >: >>: say "The Truth hurts"!
: >: >>This is funny.
: >: >Hilarious.
: >: I'm slapping my knee and getting a great belly laugh
: >Coool.
: >: watching you guys
: >: display your transparent McCarthyite selves.
: >Sort of like the person who said this:
: >"Although it does make a bit of sense that Kilpartick really is Mason
: >given that Kilpartrick is another vile leftist racist who recently used
: >to post from George Mason University."
: >5f6rc2$4...@crl7.crl.com
: >Are you going to call Discipio a McCarthite or show how you are a
: >hypcorite again? Remember Keith you said conjecture like the above was
: >McCarthyism.
: Quit lying, Kev.
Tsk Tsk Keith your own words showing you to be doing so are right below.
It appears you are lying yet again.
: Feel free to point out when I said conjecture was the
: same as McCarthyism.
Why it's right below.
: >Here let me remind you:
: >Keith Jackson (s...@sig.I.hate.spam) wrote:
: >: In article <5dm3sj$t...@sol.caps.maine.edu>, at Sun, 09 Feb 97 22:17:11
: >EST,
: >: <scot...@maine.maine.edu> muttered:
: >: >In article <5dlneg$4...@crl10.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >: >>It is because KKKennemur is a left wing democrat, like yourself.
: >: >Say, Discipio -- you're now back, and Truth Mason is gone. Coincidence?
: >: Say, Erb, aren't you above this sort of shameless McCarthyism?
: Oh, but Kevy, you conveniently forget to mention how you and Erb and Zepp
: all ran around squawking that if William didn't answer the charges, he
: would be assumed guilty.
Funny nothing like that was said anywhere in the post. Making it up now
that your posts aren't archived eh Keith? It was predicited.
But I must thank you Keith as I won money betting that you would indeed
demonstrate your blatant hypocrisy in this respect.
: >Well Keith, show us that integrity you keep claiming you have yet is never
: >seen. I can see Keith lacing up those net.running shoes now.
: Oh, Kevy, speaking of integrity, you want to explain to everyone why
: you had a hissy fit for a good month over Papa Jack's alleged perverted
: flame, then turned around and started using Jimbo Kennemur's and Shawn
: Smith's perverted flame, calling me "dogboy"?
Uh Keith I commented on jack's use of a flame implying pedophelia and him
turning around and complaining about the same thing being done to him. You
can stop lying Keith can't you? And you always know when Keith gets
cornered he brings up unrelated issues in a vain hope that his dishonesty
will be overlooked. Poor Keith.
: Face it, I have integrity.
Only to yourself and I doubt you even beleive it.
: You are the one who is lacking.
Keith sets a net record for running away from his hypocrisy.
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:35:11 GMT, Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:42:01 GMT, csmk...@flash.net (Sam A. Kersh)
>wrote:
>
>>scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D. Erb) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Quite true about his sig! It's clear that the term in question that Jim
>>>used, "house nigger," which comes from a phrase used by radical blacks to
>>>criticize other blacks which helped continue oppression by working with their
>>>masters, is controversial.
>>>
>>
>>No, historically, "house nigger" comes from the old South. There were
>>"house niggers" (servants) and "field niggers" who took the beating and
>>abuse and did the work. But don't forget, to the owner, they were all
>>valuable "livestock;" worth about $1,000 for a young black male.
>>
>
>How can you tell the difference between a house nigger and a field
>slave? When the master's house mysteriously catches fire the house
>nigger prays for rain and the field slaves pray for wind.
How can you tell the difference between Shawn Smith and a Klansman?
It's a trick question, you CAN'T.
Richard Buttrey
>Following one of your tiny thoughts is a lot like following the
>elephants in the circus parade, Kent. You have got to really watch
>where you step.
blah, blah.
Would you kindly leave t.p.e-u out of this please.
Cheers,
Richard Buttrey - Grappenhall - Cheshire - UK | Dum spiro spero
email: ric...@buttrey.u-net.com |
__________________________________________________________________
"All the member states in the EU are cheating except for Germany...
There is only one solution: the other countries must 'stop cherry picking
and harmonise their tax regimes now'...".
Editorial in Der Spiegel January 1997
__________________________________________________________________
Kevin Kelly
On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 20:56:43 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Chris Morton)
wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Feb 97 08:58:11 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D.
>Erb) wrote:
>
>>In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>>lan...@inil.com says...
>>
>>>Your apparent ability to totally ignore the opposing side of an issue must
>>>make you one helluva comprehensive educator.
>>
>>Criticism I do not condemn. The type of smears, lies, and attacks that
>>you call mere "criticism" I do condemn. It is not appropriate discourse.
>
>You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
Sure he does. You are quite simply lying. How long have you been a
probationer of the "Big Lie" technique bigot? How long have you hated
people simply because they disagree with you? Do you think lying about
what people believe is an appropriate form of discourse? If not why do
you continuously do so?
--
"Under capitalism, man exploits man.
Under communism it is just the
reverse." - John Kenneth Galbraith
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
wrote:
>Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers". To this
day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
pimps do so.
That's just too embarrassing for a whore for White supremacism like
Gail, so she changes the subject.
>able to killfile, so he does not engage Morton unless he sees a reply.
>As some of us cannot killfile and show a remarkable lack of
>self-restraint along with an unrealistic optimism that Morton,
>who agrees with us more than he agrees with you, will see the
>error of his ways, Jim does see Morton's hyperbole and will
>respond in kind.
"See the error of his ways"? Oh yeah, obey White people without
question.
But Gail the Hapless Hooker does bring up an interesting point. I'm
more liberal than Kennemur OR Dahlman. So why do they call me a
"nigger"?
Because I refuse to obey their orders to support unilateral
disarmament of Black people and the creation of a monopoly of armed
force in the White controlled police.
As a general rule, prostitutes aren't known for their critical
thinking skills, so Gail probably won't be able to put two and two
together.
Fortunately, a lot of other people have... and it drives Dahlman and
Kennemur into an insensate rage... all the more so when they think of
how I'll ALWAYS be here to tell people the truth about what they
REALLY are. And what they REALLY are ain't liberal.
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:17:25 GMT, volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim
Kennemur) wrote:
>>And everyone understands that you are a chronic liar who alters posts
>>when you cannot logically debate someone. I'd suggest that you not try
>>that with someone's check ... it's called forgery and it IS against the
>>law ... never mind, forget I said that. Try it with somebody's check.
>>--
>>Kent Finnell
>
>So anyone who disagrees with Kent is a check forger!!!!!
Is that like how you claim that any Black person who won't obey you is
a "nigger"?
>Such Logic!
Such White supremacism.
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 97 07:38:14 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>In article <5f3cj6$c...@crl13.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>(about Shawn Smith)
>
>>What a pathetic racist you are.
>
>William, given that Shawn, Gail, Kevin, me and many others disagree that
>simply using the term "house nigger" makes someone a racist (again, it is a
Many people don't think Pat Buchanan is a racist and an anti-semite
either.
Was it you who beat up the kid in my friend's Jewish youth group at
that Buchanan rally in Brook Park?
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:37:03 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
wrote:
>Sam A. Kersh wrote:
>>
>> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>>
>> >..........drivel as usual....................
>>
>> Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
>> about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
>> racists..
>>
>And now a Queen.
From whore to queen, you're coming up in the racist gutter.
Chris Morton
>In article <5f57q6$m...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>>: Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
>>
>>What did you consider his "hymie town" remark, Gail? Pro-Jewish?
>
>Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
>Asians and others are also Jews.
>cheers, scott
I guess that's why the Soviets put it on passports as an ethnicity.
If ever there was any doubt about Doktor Mengele's inclinations, this
has dispelled it.
Will your next paper be a "scholarly" dissertation on why you believe
the Holocaust was a hoax?
Chris Morton
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:36:36 GMT, volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim
Kennemur) wrote:
>You need to spend less time with guns and more time with a few books
>Sam!
You need to spend less time reading "The Turner Diaries" KKKennemur.
Chris Morton
>Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
>csmk...@flash.net (Sam A. Kersh) was saying...
>*No, historically, "house nigger" comes from the old South. There were
>*"house niggers" (servants) and "field niggers" who took the beating and
>*abuse and did the work. But don't forget, to the owner, they were all
>*valuable "livestock;" worth about $1,000 for a young black male.
>*Sam A. Kersh
>*NRA Life Member
>*TSRA
>
>You said nigger, yer a racist nana na nana...
>You said nigger, yer a Nazi nana na nana...
>You said nigger, yer a knuckle dragging White Supremacsit nana na nana
>You said nigger with a NRA tagline, the NRA are all racists nana nana.
>You people are SUCH A F**KIN YUCK! :)
I guess you're finally catching on that you'll NEVER be able to run
away from the stench of your own racism and that I'll ALWAYS be here
to tell others what you are.
Enjoy.
Chris Morton
>In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>lan...@inil.com says...
>
>>Your apparent ability to totally ignore the opposing side of an issue must
>>make you one helluva comprehensive educator.
>
>Criticism I do not condemn. The type of smears, lies, and attacks that
>you call mere "criticism" I do condemn. It is not appropriate discourse.
You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
Zepp
On 28 Feb 1997 21:47:01 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
Jr) wrote:
>Scott D. Erb (scot...@maine.maine.edu) wrote:
>: In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
>
>: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>: >: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
>
>: >: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
>: >: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
>
>: >: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
>: >: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
>: >: say "The Truth hurts"!
>
>Don't project Zepp. Just because you may forget you are logged on
>doesn't mean that anybody else in the world forgets they are logged on.
>
No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
>But I notice that Zepp is willing to try anything to get out of putting
>his money where his racist mouth is. $4000 says you are full of shit
>when you lie about my wife not being black. You have shown yourself to
>be a gutless wonder once again.
Dips, you know the deal. You and your "wife" meet with Gail and Milt.
They come back, and say yeah or nay. If one, I apologize and vanish
for six months. If the other, you apologize and vanish for six
months. No bullshit big-money pots, just a simple proof, with enough
riding on it to make it interesting.
>
>: >This is funny.
>
>: Hilarious.
>
Zepp
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:13:24 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Chris Morton)
wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:12:40 GMT, Sh...@dis.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Feb 97 22:52:27 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
>>
>>>In article <5evvdo$l...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>>>> That's why you are called Dr. Propaganda.
>>>
>>>Only by you ;)
>>
>>Some of us call you Dr. KickAss :)
>
>That's Kissass
>>
>>Dippy we just call dumb.
>
>Black people you just call "niggers".
And you're here to try and encourage more people to take up that bad
habit, aren't you?
>
>So, why do you support racial concentration camps?
>
Gail Thaler
Chris Morton wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
>
> KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers".
That's a lie. Are you knowingly telling lies, like your
pal, William, who attacks Morris Dees and praises the
"government" of Batswana and says blacks were better off
under Apartheid?
To this
> day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
> pimps do so.
Not above trafficing in sexual slurs? How does your mother feel
about your calling women you disagree with prostitutes and whores?
>
> That's just too embarrassing for a whore for White supremacism like
> Gail, so she changes the subject.
>
How is saying that Jim uses un pc language changing the subject?
Quick, look up, Chris. What is the name of this thread?
> >able to killfile, so he does not engage Morton unless he sees a reply.
> >As some of us cannot killfile and show a remarkable lack of
> >self-restraint along with an unrealistic optimism that Morton,
> >who agrees with us more than he agrees with you, will see the
> >error of his ways, Jim does see Morton's hyperbole and will
> >respond in kind.
>
> "See the error of his ways"? Oh yeah, obey White people without
> question.
>
No. Pro-Civil Rights, Pro-Affirmative Action, Pro-Choice, Pro-
Gay Rights. Issues you claim to care about.
> But Gail the Hapless Hooker does bring up an interesting point. I'm
> more liberal than Kennemur OR Dahlman. So why do they call me a
> "nigger"?
>
How is someone who thinks Canadians are serfs and attacks present-
day Japan and attacks the anti-fascist Spanish Republicans without
criticizing the fascist loyalists be considered a liberal? How
could someone who calls Clinton KKKKlinton be a liberal? How could
someone who calls Clinton Stalin and Dole Kirov be a liberal. I
grant that you post pro-choice and pro-gay rights and have concerns
about censorship and civil liberties and rights of the accused. But
the fact that you attack the left-wing of the Democratic party, which
in recent history has been more protective of these rights, leaving
the right-wing free from criticism, shows me that you are not
interested in pursuing a liberal agenda.
> Because I refuse to obey their orders to support unilateral
> disarmament of Black people and the creation of a monopoly of armed
> force in the White controlled police.
>
Like Dippy's favorite places? Aparthied South Africa,
Botswana? But I told you nearly a year ago that I agreed with
you that politicians who support gun control often use
racial fears and racial imagery. On the other hand, urban
blacks and their represenatives in majority black cities almost
overwhelmingly support gun control. Surely you are not saying
they are racist. Surely some people who support gun control
support it for nonracial reasons?
> As a general rule, prostitutes aren't known for their critical
> thinking skills, so Gail probably won't be able to put two and two
> together.
>
Perhaps your prediliction for pornography (rec.arts.movies.erotica)
gives you a distorted view of women. Do you call me a whore because
I won't obey you? Man?
> Fortunately, a lot of other people have... and it drives Dahlman and
> Kennemur into an insensate rage... all the more so when they think of
> how I'll ALWAYS be here to tell people the truth about what they
> REALLY are. And what they REALLY are ain't liberal.
>
Rack is enraged. Jim is amused. But they often go days without
thinking about you.
Why we we were just talking last night about the virtues of
Eric Clapton, Richie Havens and that new band, Love in Reverse.
Buy the cd. It's on Reprise Records.
> --
>
> "Here is the point: the most vile evil people ever are more polite on
> the net than Keith and Mort. Scott you are smart, is that an
> endorsement of the nazis or does it merely suggest that one man
> believes that Keith and co.are worse than the nazis when it comes to
> being impolite. But, boy can they twist stuff that Rack sez or what?"
>
> Shawn Smith explains above why he thinks that the National Alliance
> neo-Nazis who advocate a resumption of the Holocaust, are "polite".
Anyone can see that Shawn does not do that at all.
Zepp
On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 23:55:35 GMT, kke...@best.com (Kevin Kelly)
wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 20:56:43 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Chris Morton)
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Feb 97 08:58:11 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D.
>>Erb) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <landerr-ya0240800...@news.inil.com>,
>>>lan...@inil.com says...
>>>
>>>>Your apparent ability to totally ignore the opposing side of an issue must
>>>>make you one helluva comprehensive educator.
>>>
>>>Criticism I do not condemn. The type of smears, lies, and attacks that
>>>you call mere "criticism" I do condemn. It is not appropriate discourse.
>>
>>You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
>
>Sure he does. You are quite simply lying. How long have you been a
>probationer of the "Big Lie" technique bigot? How long have you hated
>people simply because they disagree with you? Do you think lying about
>what people believe is an appropriate form of discourse? If not why do
>you continuously do so?
I don't think he really cares what we think about him. He serves only
the purposes of trying to intimidate liberals, and making black people
look like shit. He is failing at both, and he knows it. That's why
his posts are getting ever more shrill and frequent.
>
>
>--
>"Under capitalism, man exploits man.
>Under communism it is just the
>reverse." - John Kenneth Galbraith
=====================================================================
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conspiracy theories and talking about murder and cover-ups."
--Unnamed source, descriping Starr's pending report
on the Vince Foster suicide
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=====================================================================
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <332e77c9...@snews.zippo.com>, cm...@nwohio.com says...
>>Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
>>Asians and others are also Jews.
>>cheers, scott
>I guess that's why the Soviets put it on passports as an ethnicity.
Do you consider everything the Soviets do to be correct? And do you claim,
like the Nazis, that Judiaism is a race and not a religion?
>If ever there was any doubt about Doktor Mengele's inclinations, this
>has dispelled it.
If you are claiming that Judiaism is a race rather than a religion, then you
are the one showing Nazi tendencies. That led them to slaughter six million
people whom they saw as being in a race they feared. Racism is evil.
>Will your next paper be a "scholarly" dissertation on why you believe
>the Holocaust was a hoax?
Huh? Chris, that seems more your style. Eleven million dead is real, Chris.
If you consider it a hoax, travel there, look at the concentration camps and
read some history.
cheers, scott
William R. Discipio Jr
Kevin Kelly (kke...@best.com) wrote:
: >You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
: Sure he does. You are quite simply lying. How long have you been a
: probationer of the "Big Lie" technique bigot? How long have you hated
: people simply because they disagree with you? Do you think lying about
: what people believe is an appropriate form of discourse? If not why do
: you continuously do so?
Kev, rather than spewing insult after insult, why don't you tell us why
you consider this statement to be bigotted: Canada is a socialist
country, yet you think that this statement comes from a 'non-racist':
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
I've asked you dozens of times only to be met with cries of 'bigot'!
Show us Kev. Show us all.
William R. Discipio Jr
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: On 28 Feb 1997 21:47:01 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: Jr) wrote:
: >Scott D. Erb (scot...@maine.maine.edu) wrote:
: >: In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
: >
: >: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >: >: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: >
: >: >: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
: >: >: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
: >
: >: >: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: >: >: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: >: >: say "The Truth hurts"!
: >
: >Don't project Zepp. Just because you may forget you are logged on
: >doesn't mean that anybody else in the world forgets they are logged on.
: >
: No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
: logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
Only a paranoid nutcase would believe that I didn't know I was logged in
when I responded to Thaler.
: >But I notice that Zepp is willing to try anything to get out of putting
: >his money where his racist mouth is. $4000 says you are full of shit
: >when you lie about my wife not being black. You have shown yourself to
: >be a gutless wonder once again.
: Dips, you know the deal. You and your "wife" meet with Gail and Milt.
$4000 to my or your favorite charity, coward.
: They come back, and say yeah or nay. If one, I apologize and vanish
: for six months. If the other, you apologize and vanish for six
: months. No bullshit big-money pots, just a simple proof, with enough
: riding on it to make it interesting.
So the anonymous racist coward Zepp won't actually put his money where
his mouth is to demonstrate he's more than just a sleazy liar with his
claim that my wife isn't black.
It must suck to be such a cowardly racist like you Zepp.
William R. Discipio Jr
Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
: Chris Morton wrote:
: >
: > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
: > wrote:
: >
: > >Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
: >
: > KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers".
: That's a lie. Are you knowingly telling lies, like your
: pal, William, who attacks Morris Dees and praises the
: "government" of Batswana and says blacks were better off
: under Apartheid?
Can Gail tell us why she hates one of the only non-racial democracies in
Africa so much? Can Gail tell us why she hates Botswana so much. I love
Botswana. I think it is a model that the rest of Africa should emulate.
I praise Botswana on having the longest lasting Democracy on the continent.
A racist like you would find fault with this, though.
I find Morris Dees' getting rich on the backs of black people to be
disgusting. I find Morris Dees support for the murderous action of
assasinating Mrs. Randy Weaver to be repugnant and in complete
contridiction to any notion of 'pro-civil rights' that Dees' supposedly
professes.
I racist like you would find fault with this though.
And a racist like you would like to hide her racist by claiming that I
support apartheid (given that she knows my wife is black makes this claim
even more repugnant.)
: To this
: > day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
: > pimps do so.
: Not above trafficing in sexual slurs? How does your mother feel
: about your calling women you disagree with prostitutes and whores?
How does your mother feel about your suggestion that your political
opponent's penis should be cut off because you disagree with him?
: >
: > That's just too embarrassing for a whore for White supremacism like
: > Gail, so she changes the subject.
: >
: How is saying that Jim uses un pc language changing the subject?
: Quick, look up, Chris. What is the name of this thread?
Here is the racist language that the racist Thaler is trying to minimize:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Why does she call language above 'un-PC' yet she calls this comment
"Canada is a socialist country" to be bigotted?
She's a left wing extremist racist, that's why.
: > >able to killfile, so he does not engage Morton unless he sees a reply.
: > >As some of us cannot killfile and show a remarkable lack of
: > >self-restraint along with an unrealistic optimism that Morton,
: > >who agrees with us more than he agrees with you, will see the
: > >error of his ways, Jim does see Morton's hyperbole and will
: > >respond in kind.
: >
: > "See the error of his ways"? Oh yeah, obey White people without
: > question.
: >
: No. Pro-Civil Rights, Pro-Affirmative Action, Pro-Choice, Pro-
: Gay Rights. Issues you claim to care about.
Jim supports the Government's murderous actions which are responsible for
the deaths of innocent men, women and children (over half of whom were
people of color). He's not pro-civil rights.
Affirmative action is racist and sexist. Of course Jim supports it. It's
part of the left wing religion. Then, of course he tries to
deamonzize those people who voted this proposition into law by claiming
that they are David Duke like:
The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment
to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity,
or national origin in the operation of public employment, public
education, or public contracting.
: > But Gail the Hapless Hooker does bring up an interesting point. I'm
: > more liberal than Kennemur OR Dahlman. So why do they call me a
: > "nigger"?
: >
: How is someone who thinks Canadians are serfs and attacks present-
: day Japan and attacks the anti-fascist Spanish Republicans without
: criticizing the fascist loyalists be considered a liberal?
Your version of left wing extremism allows no dissent. That's good
enough to reject you as being liberal.
: How
: could someone who calls Clinton KKKKlinton be a liberal?
Clinton picks fights with blacks he knows can't fight him like Sista
Solja and Joyclynn Elders.
Clinton asked HUD secretary Ciceneros to 'find a way around the
Constitution' which would allow warrantless gestapo sweeps of black
housing projects in Chicago.
Clinton got caught playing the race card with his claim that he
remembered churhes being burned in Arkansas when he was a kid. It was a lie.
Clinton is just like you. You all shout 'racist' to bludgeon your
political oppnents into silence. Yet you refuse to examine and purge the
racism ever present in your ideals.
: How could
: someone who calls Clinton Stalin and Dole Kirov be a liberal. I
: grant that you post pro-choice and pro-gay rights and have concerns
: about censorship and civil liberties and rights of the accused.
Do you also 'grant' that Kennemur is ANTI-civil rights, uses racist slurs
to attack his political opponents, uses homophobic slurs to attack his
opponents, calls people he disagrees with child molesters and of engaging
in besteality?
: But
: the fact that you attack the left-wing of the Democratic party, which
: in recent history has been more protective of these rights, leaving
: the right-wing free from criticism, shows me that you are not
: interested in pursuing a liberal agenda.
Gail is too blinded by her own ideology to recognize the threat that
Democrats are to the ideals the profess to support.
: > Because I refuse to obey their orders to support unilateral
: > disarmament of Black people and the creation of a monopoly of armed
: > force in the White controlled police.
: >
: Like Dippy's favorite places? Aparthied South Africa,
: Botswana?
Botswana *IS* my favorite place. No doubt that a racist scumbag like you
would try to demonize over that. I wonder which country in Africa you
have respect for considering you think so badly of Botswana.
And your insinuation that Apartheid South Africa is my favorite place is
just typical of the smear that you and your racist brothers have been
engaging in for months. Tell me Gail, why do you claim that I love a
place that wouldn't let my fiancee and me travel as a couple in? And you
know what, I've seen first hand the abuses of the federal police force of
apartheid south africa. They rival what our government did at Waco TX.
I find ANY totalitarian state to be repugnant.
Go ahead racist, take that out of context.
: But I told you nearly a year ago that I agreed with
: you that politicians who support gun control often use
: racial fears and racial imagery.
And...
: On the other hand, urban
: blacks and their represenatives in majority black cities almost
: overwhelmingly support gun control. Surely you are not saying
: they are racist. Surely some people who support gun control
: support it for nonracial reasons?
Surely, but not those politicians you admit use racial imagry.
: > As a general rule, prostitutes aren't known for their critical
: > thinking skills, so Gail probably won't be able to put two and two
: > together.
: >
: Perhaps your prediliction for pornography (rec.arts.movies.erotica)
: gives you a distorted view of women. Do you call me a whore because
: I won't obey you? Man?
More man hating bullshit from you Thaler. It's discredited and old.
Drop it.
: > Fortunately, a lot of other people have... and it drives Dahlman and
: > Kennemur into an insensate rage... all the more so when they think of
: > how I'll ALWAYS be here to tell people the truth about what they
: > REALLY are. And what they REALLY are ain't liberal.
: >
: Rack is enraged. Jim is amused. But they often go days without
: thinking about you.
And I'm sure you are rolling on the floor in fits of laughter at this:
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
Thaler, I suggest you look Botswana up in an encylopedia or on the net.
I feel that it's first Premier and President Sir Seretse Khama to be a
stellar human and statesman. The country he helped found is a wonderful
role to the rest of Africa and the world.
No doubt you hate it, Racist.
William R. Discipio Jr
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: I don't think he really cares what we think about him. He serves only
: the purposes of trying to intimidate liberals, and making black people
: look like shit. He is failing at both, and he knows it. That's why
: his posts are getting ever more shrill and frequent.
Too bad that you run away from an opportunity to prove to us all that you
believe what you say. You claim my wife is not black. $4000 says you
are lying.
Why do I expect you to dodge again only to return with an attack on Morton?
Zepp
On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 20:56:56 GMT, cm...@nwohio.com (Chris Morton)
wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Feb 97 09:00:55 EST, scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D.
>Erb) wrote:
>
>>In article <5f57q6$m...@crl.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>>
>>>: Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
>>>
>>>What did you consider his "hymie town" remark, Gail? Pro-Jewish?
>>
>>Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
>>Asians and others are also Jews.
>>cheers, scott
>
>I guess that's why the Soviets put it on passports as an ethnicity.
Well, at least now we know that Snorts the white bigot agrees with
Stalin that Jewish is a "race".
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5fcb93$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
(calling someone a racist)
>assasinating Mrs. Randy Weaver to be repugnant and in complete
Yawn. Here we see Discipio's real agenda. He's one of those Weaveristas
who, if they find someone who disagrees with their radical views on the
government, ATF, etc., they'll brand them a racist, anti-civil rights, etc.
It's too transparent to work, however.
>I racist like you would find fault with this though.
Here Discipio tries to call Gail a racist, but he makes a very telling
Freudian slip...namely the first two words of the line. His subconscious is
perhaps telling us something he doesn't want to admit ;)
>Affirmative action is racist and sexist. Of course Jim supports it.
Here we see Discipio's real agenda. The many blacks and women who support
afffirmative action are racist by his definition.
This proves that when Discipio calls someone a racist, he's using a rather
bizarre definition which is contrary to that of most people. Remember that
when you see his attacks. To William, black is white, up is down,
affirmative action is racist...sigh...
Again, remember that when you see his posts! This is all the proof one needs
to know that when he calls people racist, it really means he disagrees with
their policies. I find his throwing that term around like that disgusting,
and it only supports racism. Which may be his intention.
(rest of Discipio's lame attempt to call Gail a racist deleted)
cheers, scott
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5fc8l6$6...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>Only a paranoid nutcase would believe that I didn't know I was logged in
>when I responded to Thaler.
Argument by insult. Mr. Discipio referred to himself in the third person in
a post in a way which made it appear he was trying to make it appear it was
not himself. That seems odd, but there have been accusations that Mr.
Discipio uses other alias in order to attack and say other nasty things.
This was pointed out. He did not try to defend himself or explain why he did
it, he simply called the person pointing it out a "paranoid nutcase."
Again, when you read Discipio's posts, keep this all in mind. Especially to
conservatives -- conservative thought has a lot of valid arguments, and you
should make sure that people like Discipio don't become considered 'typical
conservative'. That only hurts your cause.
cheers, scott
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5fcd7r$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>Notice Erb whine and cry when caught on his attempt to minimize Jesse
>Jackson's anti-semetic comment. These seems to be the soup de jur for
>Dr. Propaganda.
One statement by Jesse Jackson years ago does not prove him to be an
anti-Semite. You are too hung up on wanting all of your opponents to be PC.
However, I was then and am very critical of his "hymietown" statement. It
was wrong. Luckily, Jesse has been working with the Jewish Community for
years since then, and he built bridges through faith and love. That is
something I think we all can respect.
However, my response was to point out that the statement wasn't racist
because Judiaism is not a race, but a religion. Discipio's doesn't respond
or make an argument, just insults and calls names.
The reader can look at his style and history, and decide whether or not he
deserves to be taken seriously. My personal opinion is that he does not.
cheers, scott
William R. Discipio Jr
Notice Erb whine and cry when caught on his attempt to minimize Jesse
Jackson's anti-semetic comment. These seems to be the soup de jur for
Dr. Propaganda.
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <332e77c9...@snews.zippo.com>, cm...@nwohio.com says...
: >>Judiasm is a religion, there is not a separate Jewish "race." Many blacks,
: >>Asians and others are also Jews.
: >>cheers, scott
: >I guess that's why the Soviets put it on passports as an ethnicity.
: Do you consider everything the Soviets do to be correct? And do you claim,
: like the Nazis, that Judiaism is a race and not a religion?
: >If ever there was any doubt about Doktor Mengele's inclinations, this
: >has dispelled it.
: If you are claiming that Judiaism is a race rather than a religion, then you
: are the one showing Nazi tendencies. That led them to slaughter six million
: people whom they saw as being in a race they feared. Racism is evil.
: >Will your next paper be a "scholarly" dissertation on why you believe
: >the Holocaust was a hoax?
: Huh? Chris, that seems more your style. Eleven million dead is real, Chris.
: If you consider it a hoax, travel there, look at the concentration camps and
: read some history.
: cheers, scott
--
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5fc8l6$6...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >Only a paranoid nutcase would believe that I didn't know I was logged in
: >when I responded to Thaler.
: Argument by insult. Mr. Discipio referred to himself in the third person in
: a post in a way which made it appear he was trying to make it appear it was
: not himself.
Thus says Dr. Propaganda.
: That seems odd, but there have been accusations that Mr.
: Discipio uses other alias in order to attack and say other nasty things.
Keep going Doc. You are doing well.
: This was pointed out. He did not try to defend himself or explain why he did
: it, he simply called the person pointing it out a "paranoid nutcase."
No need to address your accusations Dr. Only paranoid nutcases and
propagandists like you believe I don't know who I am when I post.
: Again, when you read Discipio's posts, keep this all in mind. Especially to
: conservatives -- conservative thought has a lot of valid arguments, and you
: should make sure that people like Discipio don't become considered 'typical
: conservative'. That only hurts your cause.
Thus says Dr. Propaganda as he keeps trying to detract from his repeated
claims that this man is an 'anti-racist' and a 'non-racist':
In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
volt...@phoenix.net writes:
<snip>
>Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
>NIGGER.
> Voltaire
: cheers, scott
--
Gail Thaler hates independent black African Democracies. She's asked:
Are you knowingly telling lies, like your pal, William, who ...praises the
"government" of Batswana[sic]... Like Dippy's favorite places? ...Botswana?
++++++Why Does Thaler Bash Me Over My Like and Respect For Botswana?++++++
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5fcd7r$8...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >
: >Notice Erb whine and cry when caught on his attempt to minimize Jesse
: >Dr. Propaganda.
: One statement by Jesse Jackson years ago does not prove him to be an
: anti-Semite.
Really? What do you think Jackson meant when he called New York "hymietown"?
: You are too hung up on wanting all of your opponents to be PC.
: However, I was then and am very critical of his "hymietown" statement. It
: was wrong. Luckily, Jesse has been working with the Jewish Community for
: years since then, and he built bridges through faith and love. That is
: something I think we all can respect.
Yes, it's great when anti-semites change their stripes, isn't it Dr. Erb?
: However, my response was to point out that the statement wasn't racist
: because Judiaism is not a race, but a religion. Discipio's doesn't respond
: or make an argument, just insults and calls names.
Dr. Erb tries to minimize the racist nature of those he supports.
: The reader can look at his style and history, and decide whether or not he
: deserves to be taken seriously. My personal opinion is that he does not.
Your personal opinion is that this man is an anti-racist and a non-racist:
William R. Discipio Jr
Jim Kennemur (volt...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: Maybe House can find some real Nazi jackboots to lick in Germany or
: Poland.
They were right next to you in Waco TX a few years back. You were busy
making apologies for them. They were killing babies and women all under
the color of authority.
: I'm sure he has buffed up all the local bigot's boots with his
: fawning and begging for a prime reservation in the Conservative Big
: House.
It's good to see that Jim is still in his true bigotted form. I wonder
why Jimmy has lost his nerve and no longer refers to Morton as 'House
Nigger', though.
Well, KKKennemur has never been noted for his courage.
: Jim
Scott D. Erb
In article <5fc8gc$6...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
> Canada is a socialist country...
(rest of the post deleted).
This statement, William, is the first statement I've seen you make which is
not a direct attack on someone else and does really try to state something
about an issue. I deleted all parts of the post which were irrelevant ad
hominems.
Do you really believe that Canada is a socialist country? Could you explain
why? (In any response from you on this I'll delete ad hominems; if you
respond in a straight forward manner without insults, I will treat you with
the same respect).
cheers, scott
Scott D. Erb
Of all the groups this discussion is crossposted to, it belongs least on
talk.politics.european-union. I'm not sure why someone sent it there.
Anyway, that newsgroup is for serious discussion on European Union issues. I
apologize for the whole group of rowdy Americans for bringing our discussion
and flames into this worthy newsgroup. I will endeavor to try to remember to
cut off talk.politics.european-union from others posts here, and ask that the
others in this discussion do the same. Again, I'll take the liberty to speak
for the others and express our apologies.
cheers, scott
William R. Discipio Jr
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: Well, at least now we know that Snorts the white bigot agrees with
: Stalin that Jewish is a "race".
Funny that Dr. Erb just got through posting a bit of propaganda
criticizing me for foucsing in on Zepp's repeated accusations that Morton
is not the color he claims to be.
Why doesn't Dr. Propaganda tell Zepp that it's not germane to the
discussion to state that Morton is a 'white bigot.'
Is Dr. Erb a left wing hack shilling for left wing racists?
--
Why does Gail Thaler think liking Botswana is akin to supporting Apartheid?
"Are you knowingly telling lies, like your pal, William, who attacks Morris
Dees and praises the "government" of Batswana[sic]...
Like Dippy's favorite places? Aparthied South Africa, Botswana?"
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5fd0ob$r...@crl6.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>Thus says Dr. Propaganda.
William Discipio launches into ad hominems on Gail, Jim, Zepp, Shawn, Kevin,
me, everyone it seems who doesn't like his attacks. Yet when I simply state
my opinion and note that readers will decide for themselves, he calls me Dr.
Propaganda. Go figure.
cheers, scott
scot...@maine.maine.edu
In article <5fd129$r...@crl6.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>: was wrong. Luckily, Jesse has been working with the Jewish Community for
>: years since then, and he built bridges through faith and love. That is
>: something I think we all can respect.
>
>Yes, it's great when anti-semites change their stripes, isn't it Dr. Erb?
It's great.
It's wonderful when anyone rejects prejudice and learns to build bridges
rather than tear them down. At least we agree there, William.
>Dr. Erb tries to minimize the racist nature of those he supports.
No, I was pointing out that it was wrong to consider Judiaism a race. Can't
you at least admit that you were wrong there?
cheers, scott
Kevin Kelly
On 2 Mar 1997 08:05:32 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
Jr) wrote:
>Kevin Kelly (kke...@best.com) wrote:
>
>: >You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
>
>: Sure he does. You are quite simply lying. How long have you been a
>: probationer of the "Big Lie" technique bigot? How long have you hated
>: people simply because they disagree with you? Do you think lying about
>: what people believe is an appropriate form of discourse? If not why do
>: you continuously do so?
>
>Kev, rather than spewing insult after insult,
Why do you complain about an activity you engage in Dippy the Bigot?
Do you enjoy showing your hypocrisy?
> why don't you tell us why
>you consider this statement to be bigotted: Canada is a socialist
>country,
ooops you forgot about the "Canadians are serfs" one as well. Why are
they biggotted? Well first the comments are outright dishonest
fabrications. Only your bigotted and perverted redefinitions of
"Socialist" allow you to call Canada that. You haven't got clue one
about the country and it's politics yet feel able to hate them anyway.
That's bigotry.
So why do you hate Dippy? Is it a result of the self-loathing you
apparently feel?
Zepp
On 2 Mar 1997 08:08:06 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
Jr) wrote:
>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>: On 28 Feb 1997 21:47:01 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
>: Jr) wrote:
>
>: >Scott D. Erb (scot...@maine.maine.edu) wrote:
>: >: In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
>: >
>: >: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>: >: >: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
>: >
>: >: >: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
>: >: >: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
>: >
>: >: >: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
>: >: >: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
>: >: >: say "The Truth hurts"!
>: >
>: >Don't project Zepp. Just because you may forget you are logged on
>: >doesn't mean that anybody else in the world forgets they are logged on.
>: >
>: No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
>: logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
>
>Only a paranoid nutcase would believe that I didn't know I was logged in
>when I responded to Thaler.
No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
>
>: >But I notice that Zepp is willing to try anything to get out of putting
>: >his money where his racist mouth is. $4000 says you are full of shit
>: >when you lie about my wife not being black. You have shown yourself to
>: >be a gutless wonder once again.
>
>: Dips, you know the deal. You and your "wife" meet with Gail and Milt.
>
>$4000 to my or your favorite charity, coward.
And you have my counteroffer, you pitiful little piece of trash.
Simply meet with Gail and Milt.
>: They come back, and say yeah or nay. If one, I apologize and vanish
>: for six months. If the other, you apologize and vanish for six
>: months. No bullshit big-money pots, just a simple proof, with enough
>: riding on it to make it interesting.
>
>So the anonymous racist coward Zepp won't actually put his money where
>his mouth is to demonstrate he's more than just a sleazy liar with his
>claim that my wife isn't black.
>
So are you going to DO it, Dippy? Hmmmm?
Zepp
On Sun, 02 Mar 1997 07:24:37 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
wrote:
>Chris Morton wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
>>
>> KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers".
>
>That's a lie. Are you knowingly telling lies, like your
>pal, William, who attacks Morris Dees and praises the
>"government" of Batswana and says blacks were better off
>under Apartheid?
>
>
> To this
>> day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
>> pimps do so.
>
>Not above trafficing in sexual slurs? How does your mother feel
>about your calling women you disagree with prostitutes and whores?
He shouldn't be talking like that. After all, he'll need to hire one
in order to convince you he's married. And, for all we know, his
mother was one. It -would- explain his behavior.
Rack Jite
Comes Rack Jite's conservatively incorrect reply to whatever it was
scot...@maine.maine.edu (Scott D. Erb) was saying...
*In article <5fc8gc$6...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
*
*> Canada is a socialist country...
*Do you really believe that Canada is a socialist country? Could you explain
*why? (In any response from you on this I'll delete ad hominems; if you
*respond in a straight forward manner without insults, I will treat you with
*the same respect).
First you must realize that Discipio, Morton and a truckload of others
around here are on that edgy line between libertarian and militia.
So the answer to the questions is really quite simple.
There are five reasons why these people consider Canada socialist:
1) Gun controls.
2) Gun Controls.
3) Gun Controls.
4) Gun controls.
5) Single payer healthcare.
---
While Political Correctness concerns nonjudicial, moaning and groaning,
Conservative Correctness concerns the click of safeties and jail cell doors.
-----------------------------
Conservatively Incorrect - http://www.c2.org/~ccrj/
Kevin Kelly
>In article <5fc8gc$6...@crl2.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>> Canada is a socialist country...
>
>(rest of the post deleted).
>
>This statement, William, is the first statement I've seen you make which is
>not a direct attack on someone else and does really try to state something
>about an issue. I deleted all parts of the post which were irrelevant ad
>hominems.
>
>Do you really believe that Canada is a socialist country? Could you explain
>why? (In any response from you on this I'll delete ad hominems; if you
>respond in a straight forward manner without insults, I will treat you with
>the same respect).
>cheers, scott
I lok forward to see Discipio try to defend his claim. I will be
particiapting fully on this. I have a vested interest to see an honest
and forthright discussion of the claim. Let's see if Discipio does.
Scott D. Erb
In article <5fd5s1$s...@crl3.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
>
>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
>
>: Well, at least now we know that Snorts the white bigot agrees with
>: Stalin that Jewish is a "race".
>
>Funny that Dr. Erb just got through posting a bit of propaganda
>criticizing me for foucsing in on Zepp's repeated accusations that Morton
>is not the color he claims to be.
Uh...William...a few points:
1) You totally refused to address your claim that Judiaism was a race (by
claiming that Jackson was racist). Do you realize now that it was an error
to use "race" in that sense? If so, fine, admit it, and I'll assume it was
an error caused by typing too quickly or something.
2) I don't recall the criticisms you allude to. Though I have no idea why
that would play a role in the issue of whether Judiaism is a race. Again, it
is a religion, not a race. Do you agree?
cheers, scott
Gail Thaler
William R. Discipio Jr wrote:
>
> Gail Thaler (scri...@best.com) wrote:
> : Chris Morton wrote:
> : >
> : > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
> : > wrote:
> : >
> : > >Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
> : >
> : > KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers".
>
> : That's a lie. Are you knowingly telling lies, like your
> : pal, William, who attacks Morris Dees and praises the
> : "government" of Batswana and says blacks were better off
> : under Apartheid?
>
> Can Gail tell us why she hates one of the only non-racial democracies in
> Africa so much? Can Gail tell us why she hates Botswana so much. I love
> Botswana. I think it is a model that the rest of Africa should emulate.
> I praise Botswana on having the longest lasting Democracy on the continent.
>
South Africa? It's economically dependent on South Africa now
with most of its workers in mines owned by the deBeers. With
a 23% male adult literacy rate (16% for women), it's basically
a nation of economic slaves. Is it not? More about the
police at the end. And I haven't even explored its problems
with its neighbors and how mining for the white coloniasts
ruined the environment. Oh, and what is with the State
Department adivisory on travel there?
> A racist like you would find fault with this, though.
>
Yes. I'm in fine company. With Morris Dees.
> I find Morris Dees' getting rich on the backs of black people to be
> disgusting. I find Morris Dees support for the murderous action of
> assasinating Mrs. Randy Weaver to be repugnant and in complete
> contridiction to any notion of 'pro-civil rights' that Dees' supposedly
> professes.
>
Tell the Nazis and Klanners to back off Mr.Dees and stop the
attacks on his life. And Mr.Dees is not getting rich, you
idiot. He donates the money to the Southern Law Poverty Project
and the Civil Right Museum.
> I racist like you would find fault with this though.
>
Freudian slip: Dippy says "I racist."
> And a racist like you would like to hide her racist by claiming that I
> support apartheid (given that she knows my wife is black makes this claim
> even more repugnant.)
>
I don't know that your wife--if you have one--is anything of the sort.
If she is black, she could be one who fought against Mandela and
supported the Boers.
> : To this
> : > day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
> : > pimps do so.
>
> : Not above trafficing in sexual slurs? How does your mother feel
> : about your calling women you disagree with prostitutes and whores?
>
> How does your mother feel about your suggestion that your political
> opponent's penis should be cut off because you disagree with him?
>
There's lots of people I disagree with. Only you posted that I let
Jim masturbate over my e-mail. Any number of my opponents have told
you that I am not what you call me.
My mother is quite disappointed in me for treating Republicans
courteously.
> : >
> : > That's just too embarrassing for a whore for White supremacism like
> : > Gail, so she changes the subject.
> : >
> : How is saying that Jim uses un pc language changing the subject?
> : Quick, look up, Chris. What is the name of this thread?
>
> Here is the racist language that the racist Thaler is trying to minimize:
>
> In article <NEWTNews.8088095...@voltaire.phoenix.net>
> volt...@phoenix.net writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Please ask Chris Morton. He like Thomas and Keyes is a CONSERVATIVE HOUSE
> >NIGGER.
>
> > Voltaire
>
> Why does she call language above 'un-PC' yet she calls this comment
> "Canada is a socialist country" to be bigotted?
>
When did I do that? I reposted a comment from Morton that said
Canadians were serfs. I did not say it was a bigoted statement.
I posted "Morton on social democracies."
> She's a left wing extremist racist, that's why.
>
I'm a Jesse Jackson liberal. I voted for Nader.
> : > >able to killfile, so he does not engage Morton unless he sees a reply.
> : > >As some of us cannot killfile and show a remarkable lack of
> : > >self-restraint along with an unrealistic optimism that Morton,
> : > >who agrees with us more than he agrees with you, will see the
> : > >error of his ways, Jim does see Morton's hyperbole and will
> : > >respond in kind.
> : >
> : > "See the error of his ways"? Oh yeah, obey White people without
> : > question.
> : >
> : No. Pro-Civil Rights, Pro-Affirmative Action, Pro-Choice, Pro-
> : Gay Rights. Issues you claim to care about.
>
> Jim supports the Government's murderous actions which are responsible for
> the deaths of innocent men, women and children (over half of whom were
> people of color). He's not pro-civil rights.
>
Saying that Koresh was a child-molesting gunloon is a statement
of fact and not support of the government's action. When did
those two things. Pro-Koresh is now the definition of anti-racism.
I guess that white supremacist executed in Arkansas is now
considered an anti-racist, and all the neo-Nazis, Christian
Identity and Timothy McVeigh. McVeigh, first saint of the
new anti-racist church.
> Affirmative action is racist and sexist. Of course Jim supports it. It's
> part of the left wing religion. Then, of course he tries to
> deamonzize those people who voted this proposition into law by claiming
> that they are David Duke like:
>
> The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment
> to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity,
> or national origin in the operation of public employment, public
> education, or public contracting.
>
Have you discussed with Chris that he is now a racist for
supporting Affirmative Action?
> : > But Gail the Hapless Hooker does bring up an interesting point. I'm
> : > more liberal than Kennemur OR Dahlman. So why do they call me a
> : > "nigger"?
> : >
> : How is someone who thinks Canadians are serfs and attacks present-
> : day Japan and attacks the anti-fascist Spanish Republicans without
> : criticizing the fascist loyalists be considered a liberal?
>
> Your version of left wing extremism allows no dissent. That's good
> enough to reject you as being liberal.
>
Of course I criticized the left for having anti-Semitic and
anti-Asian tendencies. I also remind people that the Republican
party was t he party of Lincoln when the Democratic party was
anti-black and anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant. On Presidents'
Day I posted three addresses by a Republican President.
I criticize the right-wing because of its prediliction for
racism and violence, anti-choice, anti-labor policies. Why
do you try to change the subject, Dippy? Afraid of our
effectiveness?
> : How
> : could someone who calls Clinton KKKKlinton be a liberal?
>
> Clinton picks fights with blacks he knows can't fight him like Sista
> Solja and Joyclynn Elders.
>
That makes him a Klansman?
> Clinton asked HUD secretary Ciceneros to 'find a way around the
> Constitution' which would allow warrantless gestapo sweeps of black
> housing projects in Chicago.
>
That means he burns churches?
> Clinton got caught playing the race card with his claim that he
> remembered churhes being burned in Arkansas when he was a kid. It was a lie.
>
Perhaps he was telling the truth, but left out the part where
he BURNED the churches.
> Clinton is just like you. You all shout 'racist' to bludgeon your
> political oppnents into silence. Yet you refuse to examine and purge the
> racism ever present in your ideals.
>
When did I call ANYONE a racist?
> : How could
> : someone who calls Clinton Stalin and Dole Kirov be a liberal. I
> : grant that you post pro-choice and pro-gay rights and have concerns
> : about censorship and civil liberties and rights of the accused.
>
> Do you also 'grant' that Kennemur is ANTI-civil rights, uses racist slurs
> to attack his political opponents, uses homophobic slurs to attack his
> opponents, calls people he disagrees with child molesters and of engaging
> in besteality?
>
I don't believe he is racist or a homophobe. If he is racist
against blacks, then any number of blacks are racist against
blacks for using the same imagery. And many homosexuals use
the same technique when confronting homophobes.
> : But
> : the fact that you attack the left-wing of the Democratic party, which
> : in recent history has been more protective of these rights, leaving
> : the right-wing free from criticism, shows me that you are not
> : interested in pursuing a liberal agenda.
>
> Gail is too blinded by her own ideology to recognize the threat that
> Democrats are to the ideals the profess to support.
>
Am not. But I'd rather move the Democrats left while attacking the
right, which is more dangerous, has more money and has more power.
If Chris were honest, he would to.
> : > Because I refuse to obey their orders to support unilateral
> : > disarmament of Black people and the creation of a monopoly of armed
> : > force in the White controlled police.
> : >
> : Like Dippy's favorite places? Aparthied South Africa,
> : Botswana?
>
> Botswana *IS* my favorite place. No doubt that a racist scumbag like you
> would try to demonize over that. I wonder which country in Africa you
> have respect for considering you think so badly of Botswana.
>
Unfortunately, Africa was divided so badly by the racist coloniasts,
including my ancestors, the Portugeuse, and so destroyed economically
and environmentally, that it IS difficult to find a stable
social democracy there.
If he's going to call me a prostitute, I'm going to call him on it.
And I'm parodying him.
> : > Fortunately, a lot of other people have... and it drives Dahlman and
> : > Kennemur into an insensate rage... all the more so when they think of
> : > how I'll ALWAYS be here to tell people the truth about what they
> : > REALLY are. And what they REALLY are ain't liberal.
> : >
> : Rack is enraged. Jim is amused. But they often go days without
> : thinking about you.
>
On Botswana:
enerally, the police are divided into specialised divisions, such as
the traffic department, criminal investigation, the special branch and
the special support group (SSG), which is an anti-riot para-military
squad.
There was public concern after it emerged that the SSG shot at unarmed
civilians. Ordinary police personnel are armed only when they pursue
criminals. Commissioner of Police Norman Moleboge says as a general
rule the police are not authorised to shoot at anyone. He claims that
the police have sometimes opened fire "accidentally."
The police image was tarnished in 1995 following the ritual murder of a
schoolgirl in Mochudi village 40 kilometres north of Gaborone.
Villagers protested when the alleged killers were released for lack of
evidence. They felt the police had not done their job properly. The
government hastily called in Scotland Yard detectives but they did not
solve the case. Riots erupted in Mochudi and Gaborone and members of
the SSG were deployed in Mochudi. Two police officers were attacked by
a mob in Mochudi and beaten unconscious. A teeneager was shot dead by
the SSG and a junior officer has been charged with murder. Judgment has
been reserved.
Even before the riots, the SSG had fatally shot unarmed civilians.
Suspects in police custody have claimed they were tortured. Five
detectives were jailed for manslaughter in 1993 for torturing a suspect
to death. The court awarded a Gaborone man damages 1994 after he was
tortured.
In an effort to improve police standards, the government has asked the
British Overseas Development Administration to conduct an assessment of
the department and provide technical assistance. The government
recently strengthened the force, increasing the number of officers by
22 percent to 5,174 this year.
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William R. Discipio Jr
Kevin Kelly (kke...@best.com) wrote:
: On 2 Mar 1997 08:05:32 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: Jr) wrote:
: >Kevin Kelly (kke...@best.com) wrote:
: >
: >: >You extol racism. You certainly don't condemn it.
: >
: >: Sure he does. You are quite simply lying. How long have you been a
: >: probationer of the "Big Lie" technique bigot? How long have you hated
: >: people simply because they disagree with you? Do you think lying about
: >: what people believe is an appropriate form of discourse? If not why do
: >: you continuously do so?
: >
: >Kev, rather than spewing insult after insult,
: Why do you complain about an activity you engage in Dippy the Bigot?
: Do you enjoy showing your hypocrisy?
Kev, rather than showing us your hypocrisy...
: > why don't you tell us why
: >you consider this statement to be bigotted: Canada is a socialist
: >country,
: ooops you forgot about the "Canadians are serfs" one as well.
I didn't say that one, Kev. Trying to alter your original attack against
me for saying: "Canada is a socialist country"?
: Why are
: they biggotted? Well first the comments are outright dishonest
: fabrications. Only your bigotted and perverted redefinitions of
: "Socialist" allow you to call Canada that. You haven't got clue one
: about the country and it's politics yet feel able to hate them anyway.
: That's bigotry.
Notice that Kev deleted my request for him to explain his outrage at my
calling Canada socialist while praising Jim Kennemur by calling him a
'non-racist' even though he admits Kennemur's speech is racist.
: So why do you hate Dippy? Is it a result of the self-loathing you
: apparently feel?
Why do you delete reasonable questions and resort to your usual name-calling?
--
Why does Gail Thaler think liking Botswana is akin to supporting Apartheid?
"Are you knowingly telling lies, like your pal, William, who attacks Morris
Dees and praises the "government" of Batswana[sic]...
William R. Discipio Jr
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: On 2 Mar 1997 08:08:06 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: Jr) wrote:
: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >: On 28 Feb 1997 21:47:01 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: >: Jr) wrote:
: >
: >: >Scott D. Erb (scot...@maine.maine.edu) wrote:
: >: >: In article <5f76c6$pdk$8...@nntp2.ba.best.com>, kke...@nntp.best.com says...
: >: >
: >: >: >Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: >: >: >: On 26 Feb 1997 23:17:11 -0800, disc...@crl.com (William R. Discipio
: >: >
: >: >: >: >Gail continues her Nazi-esque propaganda. Morton and DiScipio responded
: >: >: >: >to Kennemur's tactics and not the other way around.
: >: >
: >: >: >: Har, har, har, har. Dippy forgot he was logged on as himself this
: >: >: >: time, and refered to DiScipio as a third person. I guess you could
: >: >: >: say "The Truth hurts"!
: >: >
: >: >Don't project Zepp. Just because you may forget you are logged on
: >: >doesn't mean that anybody else in the world forgets they are logged on.
: >: >
: >: No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
: >: logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
: >
: >Only a paranoid nutcase would believe that I didn't know I was logged in
: >when I responded to Thaler.
: No, Dippy. The problem is that you obviously forgot that you were
: logged on as Dippy. You fucked up, boyo.
Paranoid nutcase.
:
: >
: >: >But I notice that Zepp is willing to try anything to get out of putting
: >: >his money where his racist mouth is. $4000 says you are full of shit
: >: >when you lie about my wife not being black. You have shown yourself to
: >: >be a gutless wonder once again.
: >
: >: Dips, you know the deal. You and your "wife" meet with Gail and Milt.
: >
: >$4000 to my or your favorite charity, coward.
: And you have my counteroffer, you pitiful little piece of trash.
: Simply meet with Gail and Milt.
I reject such a lame counter offer. I don't respect you, so your apology
means nothing. Seeing you give $4000 to my favorite charity means something.
The original bet that you keep running away from still stands. I will
meet with your left wing counterparts Thaler and Brewster to demonstrate
that my wife is black *and* to get your money to give to my favorite charity.
You will continue to hedge your bet with such lame, valueless, counter
offers because you simply lack the courage to put your hard earned cash
where your mouth is.
: >: They come back, and say yeah or nay. If one, I apologize and vanish
: >: for six months. If the other, you apologize and vanish for six
: >: months. No bullshit big-money pots, just a simple proof, with enough
: >: riding on it to make it interesting.
: >
: >So the anonymous racist coward Zepp won't actually put his money where
: >his mouth is to demonstrate he's more than just a sleazy liar with his
: >claim that my wife isn't black.
: >
: So are you going to DO it, Dippy? Hmmmm?
Absolutely not. I *reject* such a lame hedge on a bet. It's amazing what
a coward you are showing yourself to be Zepp. Your apology and your claim
to go away for six months is boring and not interesting. If I valued your
opinion, your apology might actually mean something. Also, not having
you around to demonstrate what coward racists many in the USENET left are
would be a liability.
And so that you don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I'll say it again. I
reject your cowardly attempt to hedge your bet my removing the monetary
liability.
Your giving of $4000 to my favorite charity is interesting. How about
it, coward?
And again, any other of the left wing racists out here who are making
similar claims against my wife are encouraged to accept my extension of the
Zepp-challenge to them too. KKKenneur, are you listening?
William R. Discipio Jr
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) wrote:
: On Sun, 02 Mar 1997 07:24:37 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
: wrote:
: >Chris Morton wrote:
: >>
: >> On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800, Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
: >> >Jim uses un pc language. As does Morton. Jim is lucky enough to be
: >>
: >> KKKennemur calls Black people who won't obey him "niggers".
: >
: >That's a lie. Are you knowingly telling lies, like your
: >pal, William, who attacks Morris Dees and praises the
: >"government" of Batswana and says blacks were better off
: >under Apartheid?
: >
: >
: > To this
: >> day I refuse to traffic in racial slurs, no matter how many of your
: >> pimps do so.
: >
: >Not above trafficing in sexual slurs? How does your mother feel
: >about your calling women you disagree with prostitutes and whores?
: He shouldn't be talking like that. After all, he'll need to hire one
: in order to convince you he's married. And, for all we know, his
: mother was one. It -would- explain his behavior.
What explains your refusal to put your money where your mouth is,
Coward? Or will you show how brave you are by coming up with a lame,
valueless counter offer again, Zepp?
: >
: =====================================================================
: "It puts the lie to that bunch of nuts out there spinning
: conspiracy theories and talking about murder and cover-ups."
:
: --Unnamed source, descriping Starr's pending report
: on the Vince Foster suicide
: Novus Ordo Seclorum Volpus de Marina
: =====================================================================
--
Sam A. Kersh
volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim Kennemur) wrote:
>You need to spend less time with guns and more time with a few books
>Sam!
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>"Good Massa" always heard just what he wanted to
>hear from these "house" and "yard" negroes.
>"You're such a good, fine Massa!" or
>"Massa, those old black nigger fieldhands
>out there, they're happy just like they are;
>why Massa, they're not intelligent enough for
>you to try and do any better for them, massa-"
>
> Malcolm Little
> The Autobiography of Malcolm X
> Chapter 14
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Notice how Kenneboob refuses to call Malcolm X by anything other than
his slave name???/
Sam A. Kersh
NRA Life Member
TSRA, JPFO
==================================================================================
"Our task of creating a socialist America can
only succeed when those who would resist us have
been totally disarmed."
Sarah Brady, Chair
Handgun Control, Inc.
from remarks made to U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum as
she lobbied in support of ban on semi-automatic firearms. |
as reported in January, 1994 issue of National Educator
William R. Discipio Jr
scot...@maine.maine.edu wrote:
: In article <5fd129$r...@crl6.crl.com>, disc...@crl.com says...
: >: was wrong. Luckily, Jesse has been working with the Jewish Community for
: >: years since then, and he built bridges through faith and love. That is
: >: something I think we all can respect.
: >
: >Yes, it's great when anti-semites change their stripes, isn't it Dr. Erb?
: It's great.
: It's wonderful when anyone rejects prejudice and learns to build bridges
: rather than tear them down. At least we agree there, William.
Wonderful. I'd rather work towards agreement.
: >Dr. Erb tries to minimize the racist nature of those he supports.
: No, I was pointing out that it was wrong to consider Judiaism a race. Can't
: you at least admit that you were wrong there?
Oh, is that all you really want? Sure, I was wrong to support the claim
that Jackson is a racist by pointing to his anti-semitic slur. I should
have pointed out some of the things he has said or done which are race
specific instead.
Anyway, I agree with you that Jewish people certainly aren't any single
race. I suspect that there are people from every race on the planet who
are Jewish.
: cheers, scott
Good day.
Sam A. Kersh
volt...@worldnet.att.net (Jim Kennemur) wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:27:58 GMT, csmk...@flash.net (Sam A. Kersh)
>wrote:
>
>>Gail Thaler <scri...@best.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Sam A. Kersh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> rack...@worldnet.att.net (Rack Jite) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >..........drivel as usual....................
>>>>
>>>> Boy, I did good on that post! (Now watch the language police gritch
>>>> about that sentence)... Got a response from a transvestite and 2
>>>> racists..
>>>>
>>>And now a Queen.
>>>
>>>Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you call Jesse Jackson a racist?
>>
>>Yes. Don't you recall his reference to Noo York City as Hymietown? He
>>and Farakan are very anti-Semetic. Racism and bigotry is not a "white
>>thing," it has to do with your mind and heart, regardless of ethnic
>>background.
>>>
>>>> Kenneboob, you are the one who needs to read some history on the
>>>> subject. The term I've heard radical blacks call moderate blacks is
>>>> either 'tom' or 'tomming'... a reference to H. B. Stowe's "Uncle" Tom...
>>>> Another language history lesson; blacks were not addressed as "Mr." or
>>>> "Mrs"--- but if they were respected by the owners family, they were
>>>> often referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt" --- like "Aunt" Jemima..
>>>>
>>>
>>>Jeez, Sam, you left out: "In the good old days...."
>>>
>>
>>Your assuming that just because I'm not an ignorant racist like your
>>friends I think racism or slavery is a good thing. Typical--
>
>No. We are assuming that because you are a blockheaded, right-wing gun
>loon you think that racism or slavery is a good thing. Even more
>typical.
>
I must be doing something exceptionally well to PO kenneboob to the
point he is becoming totally irrational.... 9-)