Rei's desires
Disaster
> Should add that having watched the series several times, it doesn't seem
> to me that Rei and Shinji have any kind of attraction on either side,
> but they have a familial bond that they don't understand, or at least
> that Shinji doesn't understand. Even in the "oops, I fell on top of
> you" scene Shinji seems more puzzled than anything. I don't actually
> think Rei is capable of being attracted to others as it wouldn't be true
> to her Lilith-ness (and in that sense she is EVERYONE's mother).
>
> Plus from a writing point of view it would seem to make sense that Anno
> would just try and steer clear of that whole situation. Asuka is
> obviously Shinji's kindred spirit. And for better or worse, Rei is too
> much Yui for that whole situation to not elicit (more) death threats.
>
> Richard
[Copied from "Searching for fanfic!"]
Now then, to continue.
Even though Rei is Lilith in the sense that her Soul is Lilith's, this
does not mean that Rei fully understands that she is Lilith or even if she
does, what Lilith is suppose to be. This is part of the self
identification thing. Rei looks in a mirror and sees a teenager. But this
does not look right to her. Even so it is what she sees thus it is what
she believes. This means that Rei thinks that she is Rei, and that Rei is
a teenager that pilots an Eva and goes to Shinji's school. At least this
is true for the majority of the series.
This opens up the possibility that Rei might become interested in Shinji.
However we also learn that Rei feels as though she has a connection to
every human. A bond of some sort. This tells us that she at least is
suspicious of her original nature and who she really is.
Rei is in to much conflict within herself, trying to find out who or what
she really is to ever become interested in anyone else during the time
that we see her. It's not a selfish thing, it's closer to instinctive.
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when she starts to realize that her higher purpose is to protect him,
and eventually hand the future to him. The potential for her to become
interested in Shinji exists, but it doesn't happen in the series, or at
least never comes up. But all of it, as you said, seems to be
instinctive to her.
Richard
Disaster
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> Disaster wrote:
> > Now then, to continue.
> >
> > Even though Rei is Lilith in the sense that her Soul is Lilith's, this
> > does not mean that Rei fully understands that she is Lilith or even if
she
> > does, what Lilith is suppose to be. This is part of the self
> > identification thing. Rei looks in a mirror and sees a teenager. But
this
> > does not look right to her. Even so it is what she sees thus it is
what
> > she believes. This means that Rei thinks that she is Rei, and that Rei
is
> > a teenager that pilots an Eva and goes to Shinji's school. At least
this
> > is true for the majority of the series.
> >
> > This opens up the possibility that Rei might become interested in
Shinji.
> > However we also learn that Rei feels as though she has a connection to
> > every human. A bond of some sort. This tells us that she at least is
> > suspicious of her original nature and who she really is.
> >
> > Rei is in to much conflict within herself, trying to find out who or
what
> > she really is to ever become interested in anyone else during the time
> > that we see her. It's not a selfish thing, it's closer to instinctive.
>
> when she starts to realize that her higher purpose is to protect him,
> and eventually hand the future to him. The potential for her to become
> interested in Shinji exists, but it doesn't happen in the series, or at
> least never comes up. But all of it, as you said, seems to be
> instinctive to her.
Okay Richard, I'm serious about bottom posting!
Kakarotto
People will figure it out in the end, I mean you'd have to be incredibly
stupid or incredibly lazy not to be able to cope with top posting.
Disaster
news:3uyV8.4124$7G4.6...@news.xtra.co.nz...
Apart from major line length issues, notice the crap at the top? The
identity tags work in a specific manner. This manner allows either for top
posting or bottom posting. If everyone uses one method it makes everything
easy to read in a nice straight order that encourages people to pursue.
Otherwise we have a post that discourages review. Even you have been
around long enough to have come across this issue. We have discussed it
many times and the consensus to is to bottom post. Thus if everyone does
it life is a little bit easier. I don't come here to exert effort in
making sense of screwed up posts. If you want a fucking puzzle go
somewhere else.
Zeruel333 The Hentai One
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think it's st-*SMISH*
Zeruel333 The Hentai One
Richard Liang
>Whats the difference? Top or bottom. (Go to Bottom)
>
>
>
>People will figure it out in the end, I mean you'd have to be incredibly
>stupid or incredibly lazy not to be able to cope with top posting.
>
>
From personal experience; I used to sort of interweave my comments in
between the paragraphs they pertained to, but then a friend of mine
pointed it out to me and recommended top-posting (actually, I didn't
even know there were names for top-posting & bottom-posting; I thought
you meant "post to the new thread" when you said "post at the bottom").
Whatever, I'm flexible.
Richard
David Scarlett
> From personal experience; I used to sort of interweave my
> comments in between the paragraphs they pertained to
That _is_ bottom posting. You're putting the reply below the original
text. Just more than once.
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David Scarlett
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> Apart from major line length issues, notice the crap at the top? The
> identity tags work in a specific manner.
But you never leave the identity tags in anyway... ;-)
And don't set a bad example for him. Snip your posts.
Disaster
> "Disaster" <disa...@disfanfic.net> wrote:
> > Apart from major line length issues, notice the crap at the top? The
> > identity tags work in a specific manner.
>
> But you never leave the identity tags in anyway... ;-)
>
> And don't set a bad example for him. Snip your posts.
What the hell are you talking about? I aways leave them in.
Disaster
Well nothing wrong with replying on a paragraph by paragraph basis or even
splitting the paragraphs up if you want to address more then one issue
within each. Bottom posting is just putting that reply under the material
that you are addressing. Nothing wrong with Top posting, it's just when
you mix the two. I use to top post until everyone here yelled at me for
around a year or so for doing it.
Disaster
> Richard Liang <rhl...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> > From personal experience; I used to sort of interweave my
> > comments in between the paragraphs they pertained to
>
> That _is_ bottom posting. You're putting the reply below the original
> text. Just more than once.
*Nods*
Disaster
> What's the matter with top posting?
It causes the loss of all the text below it whenever I reply! Or if you
want the sensible answers that you already know! It's agreed upon by
general consensus that the JAE and her subgroups are bottom posting
forums.
Disaster
doujinshis :P
Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
Zlmndra
> doujinshis :P
>
> Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
> --
Speaking of which, someone once said that there was a doijinshi called
"Paradise Lost" or something that developed Rei's character. Anyone kow
where I can download it? I'm still searching! :)
Z
Zeruel333 The Hentai One
it's one of those non-downloadable doujins- youre gonna have to buy it like I
did because it isnt on the internet (I only found 2 stories from it on the
internet and deleted one when I got the volume that had that story in it)
you can buy it at j-list.com
Frank White
says...
>
>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
>doujinshis :P
>
>Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
No, it's Asuka in a blue wig!
^_^
FW
Frank White
zeru...@aol.comanimefan says...
>
>Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
doujinshis :P
Actually I think we get a better view of her dislikes. Tentacles.
Rape. Tentacle rape...
FW
Frank White
tamago...@NOSPAMPLShotmail.com says...
"Paradise Lost" and its semi-sister publication "Angelic Impact"
were two long running hentai doujin anthology series that
presented short stories set in the Eva universe. Sort of
like "Lunatic Party" did for Sailor Moon. Some stories were
funny, some were tragic, all featured copious nudity and
bodily fluids, and a few got into what actually makes these
people tick.
The ones that focused on Gendo were... creepy.
Do a Google search for PL or AI and see if you can find
a site offering one of the issues for free download, or
visit J-list and see if they still have any for sale.
FW
Disaster
Well I found it at the RAAC
ftp://ftp.cs.ubc.ca/pub/archive/anime-fan-works/Evangelion/Paradise-Lost/
Go there directly if you like.
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Disaster
> >> doujinshis :P
> >>
> >> Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
> >> --
> >
> >Speaking of which, someone once said that there was a doijinshi called
> >"Paradise Lost" or something that developed Rei's character. Anyone
kow
> >where I can download it? I'm still searching! :)
> >
> >Z
>
> it's one of those non-downloadable doujins- youre gonna have to buy it
like I
> did because it isnt on the internet (I only found 2 stories from it on
the
> internet and deleted one when I got the volume that had that story in
it)
> you can buy it at j-list.com
Isn't on the internet except for something called the same thing right
here!
ftp://ftp.cs.ubc.ca/pub/archive/anime-fan-works/Evangelion/Paradise-Lost/
Now this may very well be the same thing or it's something that's only
called the same name by some rip-off author. Whatever it is I have not
d/led it to check. I'm curious though that no one here checked the RAAC
before asking this question.
Disaster
> disa...@disfanfic.net says...
> > "Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > > Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
> > > doujinshis :P
> >
> > Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
>
> No, it's Asuka in a blue wig!
Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to present to you Asuka's real desire!
;)
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> "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
> > disa...@disfanfic.net says...
> > > "Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > > > Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
> > > > doujinshis :P
> > >
> > > Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
> >
> > No, it's Asuka in a blue wig!
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to present to you Asuka's real desire!
> ;)
> --
> Kind regards
> Disaster
Heretic! Burn him at the stake!
Vaughn L.Porter
ASUKA HATES DOLLS!!!!!!!
Disaster
> Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.net> wrote:
> > "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
> > > No, it's Asuka in a blue wig!
> >
> > Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to present to you Asuka's real
desire!
> > ;)
>
*Chuckle*
She is jealous of Rei you know! She wishes that she could be as relaxed
and carefree. That she could just release all this pent up stress, to not
have to be perfect. Shame she doesn't realize the truth.
Zlmndra
> were two long running hentai doujin anthology series that
> presented short stories set in the Eva universe. Sort of
> like "Lunatic Party" did for Sailor Moon. Some stories were
> funny, some were tragic, all featured copious nudity and
> bodily fluids, and a few got into what actually makes these
> people tick.
>
Hey, I thought you were the one that gave me the impression it actually had
a serious alternate storyline!
Z
Frank White
says...
>
>"Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
>> Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.net> wrote:
>> > "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
>> > > No, it's Asuka in a blue wig!
>> >
>> > Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to present to you Asuka's real
>desire!
>> > ;)
>>
>> Heretic! Burn him at the stake!
>
>*Chuckle*
>
>She is jealous of Rei you know! She wishes that she could be as relaxed
>and carefree. That she could just release all this pent up stress, to
not
>have to be perfect. Shame she doesn't realize the truth.
I'm having a REALLY REALLY hard time dealing with the concept
of Rei being relaxed and carefree...
FW
Disaster
> >
> > She is jealous of Rei you know! She wishes that she could be as
relaxed
> > and carefree. That she could just release all this pent up stress, to
> > not have to be perfect. Shame she doesn't realize the truth.
>
> I'm having a REALLY REALLY hard time dealing with the concept
> of Rei being relaxed and carefree...
LOL
It's a relative thing maybe? Compare her to Asuka!
Vaughn L.Porter
> "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
> > disa...@disfanfic.net says...
> > > *Chuckle*
> > >
> > > She is jealous of Rei you know! She wishes that she could be as
> relaxed
> > > and carefree. That she could just release all this pent up stress, to
> > > not have to be perfect. Shame she doesn't realize the truth.
> >
> > I'm having a REALLY REALLY hard time dealing with the concept
> > of Rei being relaxed and carefree...
>
> LOL
> It's a relative thing maybe? Compare her to Asuka!
> --
> Kind regards
> Disaster
Comparing Rei and Asuka is like comparing Gandhi and bin Laden. Both men
were charasmatic leaders seeking to help their people, but one sought a
peaceful solution, the other uses violence and terror. Rei is trying to come
to terms with who and what she is, and Shinji seems to be the only one
willing to try and help her on that path. Asuka, like Shinji, is severly
scarred psychologically, but where Shinji seeks to hide from confrontations,
Asuka is extremely confrontational, yet she hides her true feelings behind a
mask of superiority. The few times Asuka "lowers her AT-Field", usually with
Shinji, she very quickly puts it back up when she feels she's being too
open. Yes, I feel Rei does have feelings for Shinji, but I don't believe she
could be a romantic interest along the lines that Asuka could. I also feel
Asuka does care for Shinji, but her pride and arrogance (both defensive
aspects of her ATF) prevent her from truly being able to express her
feelings for him, much the same way Shinji, who oviously cares for her,
can't fully express himself with her until the end (Ep.25&26, EoE). Shinji
and Asuka are two sides of the same coin, as the old saying goes, opposites
and yet with much in common. This makes them a better couple than Shinji and
Rei, who are, in many aspects, very much alike. In a certain sense, Rei
could be seen, not as an older or younger sister, but as Shinji's twin.
Whew! Well, I haven't made any serious comments of late, so this should make
up for that. Later.
Vaughn L.Porter
ASUKA!!!!ASUKA!!!!NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Frank White
tamago...@NOSPAMPLShotmail.com says...
As it's an anthology series, you get stories that cover the
spectrum. As long as they're hentai, they can range from
funny to horrific, serious to absurd. Some actually devote
considerable effort into imagining what might bring Rei to
Shinji's arms (or vice versa); others are of the Plot What
Plot school in which sex happens spontaneously and without
regard to character. Fortunately the latter are usually
short...
They're interesting reads. As long as you can read - or,
as in my case, bumble - your way though Japanese.
FW
Disaster
> > > disa...@disfanfic.net says...
> > > > *Chuckle*
> > > >
> > > > She is jealous of Rei you know! She wishes that she could be as
> > > > relaxed and carefree. That she could just release all this pent up
stress, to
> > > > not have to be perfect. Shame she doesn't realize the truth.
> > >
> > > I'm having a REALLY REALLY hard time dealing with the concept
> > > of Rei being relaxed and carefree...
> >
> > LOL
> > It's a relative thing maybe? Compare her to Asuka!
[SNIP]
Lets try this again! Instead of writing something that is far to serious
and way to long for me to bother reading, how about something a little
lighter?
For starters, we are not comparing them to world politics. When I said
compare Rei and Asuka it was in the context of the discussion. That is in
reference to the personality traits being discussed.
You see how easy that was to counter your opening statement? Yes I did
read the first line.
Vaughn L.Porter
Well, good for you. Now sit your butt down and read the rest of it! It's
PROSE! PURE PROSE! I'm not going to let you just dismiss my ravings simply
because you *think* you got the gist of it with the first sentence. I WILL
NOT BE IGNORED!
Vaughn L.Porter
And that goes for the rest of you people!
Disaster
> Well, good for you. Now sit your butt down and read the rest of it! It's
> PROSE! PURE PROSE! I'm not going to let you just dismiss my ravings
simply
> because you *think* you got the gist of it with the first sentence. I
WILL
> NOT BE IGNORED!
Har har, you'll be whatever I want you to be.
Vaughn L.Porter
> "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> > Well, good for you. Now sit your butt down and read the rest of it! It's
> > PROSE! PURE PROSE! I'm not going to let you just dismiss my ravings
> simply
> > because you *think* you got the gist of it with the first sentence. I
> WILL
> > NOT BE IGNORED!
>
> Har har, you'll be whatever I want you to be.
> --
> Kind regards
> Disaster
Yeah, whatever.
BTW, you noticed we seem to be the only ones keeping this thread alive?
Vaughn L.Porter
Where IS everyone?
Disaster
> > > Well, good for you. Now sit your butt down and read the rest of it!
It's
> > > PROSE! PURE PROSE! I'm not going to let you just dismiss my ravings
> > > simply because you *think* you got the gist of it with the first
sentence. I
> > > WILL NOT BE IGNORED!
> >
> > Har har, you'll be whatever I want you to be.
>
> BTW, you noticed we seem to be the only ones keeping this thread alive?
Well I'd hardly call this very interesting material!
Zeruel333 The Hentai One
>> Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
>doujinshis :P
>
>Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
believe me: it's Rei. I can recognize those 'parts' anywhere!! (or it's a
perfect clone of Rei...)
Zeruel333 The Hentai One
>> >> > Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
>> >> doujinshis :P
>> >>
>> >> Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
>> >> --
>> >
>> >Speaking of which, someone once said that there was a doijinshi called
>> >"Paradise Lost" or something that developed Rei's character. Anyone
>kow
>> >where I can download it? I'm still searching! :)
>> >
>> >Z
>>
>> it's one of those non-downloadable doujins- youre gonna have to buy it
>like I
>> did because it isnt on the internet (I only found 2 stories from it on
>the
>> internet and deleted one when I got the volume that had that story in
>it)
>> you can buy it at j-list.com
>
>Isn't on the internet except for something called the same thing right
>here!
>
>ftp://ftp.cs.ubc.ca/pub/archive/anime-fan-works/Evangelion/Paradise-Lost/
>
>Now this may very well be the same thing or it's something that's only
>called the same name by some rip-off author. Whatever it is I have not
>d/led it to check. I'm curious though that no one here checked the RAAC
>before asking this question.
Now find all of Angelic Impact!
(and thank God I only bought >one< volume of Paradise Lost before you pointed
this out, or else I'd be pulling my hair out)
Disaster
*Chuckle*
Hey, My genius ends more or less with the RAAC! :P
Disaster
> > > Rei's desires are made more obvious in her role in various hentai
> > > doujinshis :P
> >
> > Zeruel, this may come as a shock to you, but that's not really Rei!
>
> believe me: it's Rei. I can recognize those 'parts' anywhere!! (or it's
a
> perfect clone of Rei...)
You are blinded by your lust and your greed seems to be deleting everyone
else's ID's at the top of the post! :P
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