Did fireboming of tokyo really take place?
MatthewOutland
americans have committed against japanese. Iw as never taught
fireboming of tokyo(which killed hundreds of thousands of people).
And it is not taught in korean or taiwanese schools or american
schools who like to portray themselves as the "victim" of japan, even
though they committed horrible arocities against the japanese, and
probablyt consider the firebomibg of tokyo a "Fabrication".
Stupid people, why don't you realize your blind hatred against
japanese and believeing they should be exterminated?
Ardezo
>From: matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland)
>Date: 28/08/2003 06:45 GMT Daylight Time
>
>I find it strange that it is not taught in US schools the war crimes
>americans have committed against japanese. Iw as never taught
>fireboming of tokyo(which killed hundreds of thousands of people).
>And it is not taught in korean or taiwanese schools or american
>schools who like to portray themselves as the "victim" of japan, even
>though they committed horrible arocities against the japanese, and
>probablyt consider the firebomibg of tokyo a "Fabrication".
>
When and where did the Taiwanese and the Koreans commit horrible atrocities
against the Japanese? Where did the Japanese just happen to be when these
_alleged_ atrocities were being commited against them?
mtfe...@netscape.net
> I find it strange that it is not taught in US schools the war crimes
> americans have committed against japanese. Iw as never taught
Hmm, which "war crimes"?
> fireboming of tokyo(which killed hundreds of thousands of people).
According to the Japanese, less than 100,000. According to the US, abut
126.
Now, which statute of war did this violate?
> And it is not taught in korean or taiwanese schools or american
> schools who like to portray themselves as the "victim" of japan, even
Actually, we read about it in high school; is all your education similarly
lacking?
> though they committed horrible arocities against the japanese, and
> probablyt consider the firebomibg of tokyo a "Fabrication".
Congratulations; you may very well be dumber than Monkey-boy.
Mike
Yaofeng
First of all a victor does not call his actions which killed hundreds
of thousands civilians "war crimes". Secondly, you may not have been
taught of the episode during WWII as a student. Neither did students
in Taiwan or Korea. But literature about it is abundant. There was
no effort from anyone to hide it or says it was a fabrication. This
is a far cry from what the Japanese did regarding the Rape of Nanking
and other atrocities against the allies civilians and armed
personnell.
Yaofeng
ircirc
their attack on the US, they could've won the war. They never believe
that the they started a war of genocide and plunder which brought
destruction to others and ultimately themselves. If they don't think
killing others is a war crime, why should others think killing of the
japs is one?? The japs' animalistic nature is always in evidence
despite fake bows.
vernon...@oyama.ca
says...
> The japs' animalistic nature is always in evidence
> despite fake bows.
>
Verno
Yaofeng
> Worse yet the japs today commonly think that only if they delayed
> their attack on the US, they could've won the war. They never believe
> that the they started a war of genocide and plunder which brought
> destruction to others and ultimately themselves. If they don't think
> killing others is a war crime, why should others think killing of the
> japs is one?? The japs' animalistic nature is always in evidence
> despite fake bows.
>
I'd disagree. No cool headed person today, Japanese or otherwise,
thinks Japanese had a chance delayed or not. Japan was an economy 10%
of the US in 1940. Enough said.
Sean
>
> I find it strange that it is not taught in US schools the war crimes
> americans have committed against japanese.
If dropping bombs on civilians in cities is a war crime then why
weren't the Japanese put on trial for bombing Chungking and
other Chinese cities?
Xiao Li
Hey moron, if you're going to post about the Japanese dying from
firebombs because THEY started a war with the U.S, then just keep it
in the Japan forum. Don't cross-list it in the China forum because
quite frankly, I don't care give a rat's ass what happened to the
Japanese.
And by the way, unlike the Japanese, America DOES teach about its
alleged crimes. In fact, when I was in my world history class, we
learned nothing about WW2 except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not
once, was the Japanese atrocities mentioned. So much for an unbiased
education.
Xiao Li
The Japanese didn't bomb Chungking. They bombed Shanghai.
However, if you're referring to the Hong Kong movie "ChungKing
Express" starring some Japanese actor who bombed the movie with his
poor acting, then yes... the Japanese did bomb ChungKing.
Sean
> The Japanese didn't bomb Chungking.
See: http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg51/pg6/pg51633.html
Kaz
news:85ab2228.03082...@posting.google.com...
. Don't cross-list it in the China forum because
> quite frankly, I don't care give a rat's ass what happened to the
> Japanese.
Because you are dumb fucking cruel chink imperialist.
> And by the way, unlike the Japanese, America DOES teach about its
> alleged crimes. In fact, when I was in my world history class, we
> learned nothing about WW2 except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not
> once, was the Japanese atrocities mentioned. So much for an unbiased
> education.
Moron, America does NOT teach the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They
don't even allow to exhibit those things left by the victims of Hiroshima
and Nagasaki as examples of the casualty of nukes in the Smithsonian museum.
They are trying to hide the truth of the casualty of nukes to their people
as long as it's possible. What kind of silly thing are you trying to say
huh? Also there is no proof about the alleged case of Nanking, so how could
we ever teach that huh? Hiroshima and Nagasaki is just taught in Japan as a
result of war, and the cause of surrender, idiot.
No matter whether the Japanese teach it or not, there were a bunch of
damages left in Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused by the nukes until a few years
ago, so how could we hide it? How could we ever distort it as if a Typhoon
caused it?
mtfe...@netscape.net
> "Xiao Li" <Stedd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:85ab2228.03082...@posting.google.com...
> . Don't cross-list it in the China forum because
>> quite frankly, I don't care give a rat's ass what happened to the
>> Japanese.
> Because you are dumb fucking cruel chink imperialist.
OH, look, Monkey-boy learned ANOTHER anti-Asian slur.
> Moron, America does NOT teach the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They
Well, other than those high school history books, and almost any book
on WWII at most any book store.
You, being an illiterate prosimian, cannot be expected to have read them.
> don't even allow to exhibit those things left by the victims of Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki as examples of the casualty of nukes in the Smithsonian museum.
Actually, there were exhibitted; just not part of the Enola Gay exhibit
Tell me, did any of your mother's litters survive?
Mike
vernon...@oyama.ca
@hotmail.com says...
> "Xiao Li" <Stedd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:85ab2228.03082...@posting.google.com...
> . Don't cross-list it in the China forum because
> > quite frankly, I don't care give a rat's ass what happened to the
> > Japanese.
>
> Because you are dumb fucking cruel chink imperialist.
Of course, that isn't a racist statement, correct, K-K-K-kaz?
>
> > And by the way, unlike the Japanese, America DOES teach about its
> > alleged crimes. In fact, when I was in my world history class, we
> > learned nothing about WW2 except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not
> > once, was the Japanese atrocities mentioned. So much for an unbiased
> > education.
>
> Moron, America does NOT teach the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They
> don't even allow to exhibit those things left by the victims of Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki as examples of the casualty of nukes in the Smithsonian museum.
> They are trying to hide the truth of the casualty of nukes to their people
> as long as it's possible.
You are an idiot. Of course, everyone who reads here knows that. But
this instance is outstanding, even for you.
There are documentaries about Hiroshima and Nagasaki on TV every year
across North American in the first week of August, including movies of
the drop, the explosion, the terrible damage it inflicted on buildings
and people, and interviews with survivors. The documentaries include
reports of the number of people who died directly because of the
explosion, because of radiation sickness and other acute injuries, and
the long term health effects on survivors and their offspring.
There is NO attempt to hide it in the US. There are many in the US who
regret that it happened. But in general, they feel it was necessary.
You're way off base on this one, K-K-K-kaz. Xiao Li has made a monkey
of you. ;-)
Verno
Kaz
> their attack on the US, they could've won the war. They never believe
> that the they started a war of genocide and plunder which brought
> destruction to others and ultimately themselves.
The Japanese responded as an answer for the provokes by the White
supremacists. Yes, the Japanese authorities knew they will have a huge
disaster. By this fact, the Japanese authorities could be said as
inhumane people who treated their own people as if they were bugs, but
they had nothing else to do because the White supremacists intended to
be so.
White supremacists even left their own 2000 "bugs" to be killed in
Pearl Harbor as scapegoats to whip up the war sentiments of their
uninformed people against "japs" to ruin Japan.
> If they don't think
> killing others is a war crime, why should others think killing of the
> japs is one?? The japs' animalistic nature is always in evidence
> despite fake bows.
So just stop spreading your immature chink hypocrisies.
Kaz
news:<52210046.03082...@posting.google.com>...
> > Stupid people, why don't you realize your blind hatred against
> > japanese and believeing they should be exterminated?
>
>
> Hey moron, if you're going to post about the Japanese dying from
> firebombs because THEY started a war with the U.S,
Crude idiot, the Chinese supremacists and the White supremacists had
started the war conspiring together. The Chinese are the only people
that the White supremacists had ben paying attention as "a sleeping
lion" because China is so big having a huge population. The Chinese
supremacists insisted that Munchurians are their slaves or subhumans
then they did not allow the Japanese to make them independent from the
dumb dictatorial Chinese Empire. The White supremacists that had been
afraid of the "sleeping lion" had cooperated to the Chinese
supremacists and then had been provoking "japs" to attack Pearl Harbor
to ruin Japan.
Don't be so silly to consider as if the Japanese were such stupid
people who didn't realize the difference of national power and
resourses between tweo countries. The Japanese authorities KNEW it and
they UNWILLINGLY had to attacked Pearl Harbor as an answer for their
persistent provokes and requests, to possibly lose the war, then
become an ally of the US because the White supremacists were provoking
so much. The White supremacists had been worrying about the fact that
their ally of the sleeping lion of the Chinese Empire will sooner or
later betray them and then rise the anti-Westenrn communism, they were
not worrying about Japan. The Japanese were just bugs for them, then
they nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end the war as fast as possible
for the defence of the raise of the communism. It's nonsense to ask
about the White supremacist's war crimes because they don't consider
the Japanese as human. Surely they intended to massacre the Japanese
without feeling any guilt.
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/30/03 1:18 PM:
The above message shows that Kaz is an equal-opportunity racist. For a while
I thought he was only prejudice against his betters in Tokyo.
Ernest Schaal
> Moron, America does NOT teach the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They
> don't even allow to exhibit those things left by the victims of Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki as examples of the casualty of nukes in the Smithsonian museum.
> They are trying to hide the truth of the casualty of nukes to their people
> as long as it's possible. What kind of silly thing are you trying to say
> huh? Also there is no proof about the alleged case of Nanking, so how could
> we ever teach that huh? Hiroshima and Nagasaki is just taught in Japan as a
> result of war, and the cause of surrender, idiot.
> No matter whether the Japanese teach it or not, there were a bunch of
> damages left in Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused by the nukes until a few years
> ago, so how could we hide it? How could we ever distort it as if a Typhoon
> caused it?
Come on guys, who has high jacked Kaz's account to discredit him with this
nonsense?
mtfe...@netscape.net
>> Worse yet the japs today commonly think that only if they delayed
>> their attack on the US, they could've won the war. They never believe
>> that the they started a war of genocide and plunder which brought
>> destruction to others and ultimately themselves.
> The Japanese responded as an answer for the provokes by the White
So, they killed a buncha Asians.
Kinda slow on the uptake, like you.
> So just stop spreading your immature chink hypocrisies.
Monkey-boy's SO proud of his new word...
Mike
vernon...@oyama.ca
> > Worse yet the japs today commonly think that only if they delayed
> > their attack on the US, they could've won the war. They never believe
> > that the they started a war of genocide and plunder which brought
> > destruction to others and ultimately themselves.
>
> The Japanese responded as an answer for the provokes by the White
> supremacists.
Three questions for you, K-K-K-kaz.
1. Did Japan engage in any aggression in Asia BEFORE Pearl Harbour?
2. Was the American embargo on Japanese oil shipments connected in any
way with Japan's aggression in Asia?
3. Is it your contention that Japan was simply "defending itself" when
it attacked Pearl Harbour?
I know these are disturbing thoughts, K-K-K-kaz, but if you can't admit
this very simple chain of events, there's no way anyone with any
intelligence can have a rational discussion with you.
So how about it, K-K-K-kaz? Show us your intellectual bona fides. And
no, that doesn't require opening your zipper.
Verno
Kaz
I admit "equal-opportunity", but why does it still come together with the
word "racist"?
Kaz
I guess a White supremacist high jacked it.
vernon...@oyama.ca
@hotmail.com says...
on your own.
Verno
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 12:41 AM:
Good, because I would hate to think that you were so bigoted and ignorant as
to post such crap as has been attributed to you. No intelligent Japanese
citizen would be so ignorant or so bigoted to post such crap.
I hope you find the White supremacist and sue he/her for defamation of
character, since such nonsense as the statement that "America does NOT teach
the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
True, I don't have a high regard for you, but even you know better than
that.
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 12:21 AM:
Because the message shows an extreme bigotry against Chinese and the White
race. Previously I thought you were merely bigoted against your betters in
Tokyo.
Kaz
> in article 44dc0a26.0308...@posting.google.com, Kaz at
> kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 12:41 AM:
>
> > Ernest Schaal <esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
> > news:<BB767B64.634D%esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp>...
> >> in article 44dc0a26.03082...@posting.google.com, Kaz at
> >> kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/30/03 11:03 AM:
> >>
> >>> Moron, America does NOT teach the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They
> >>> don't even allow to exhibit those things left by the victims of Hiroshima
> >>> and Nagasaki as examples of the casualty of nukes in the Smithsonian museum.
> >>> They are trying to hide the truth of the casualty of nukes to their people
> >>> as long as it's possible. What kind of silly thing are you trying to say
> >>> huh? Also there is no proof about the alleged case of Nanking, so how could
> >>> we ever teach that huh? Hiroshima and Nagasaki is just taught in Japan as a
> >>> result of war, and the cause of surrender, idiot.
> >>> No matter whether the Japanese teach it or not, there were a bunch of
> >>> damages left in Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused by the nukes until a few years
> >>> ago, so how could we hide it? How could we ever distort it as if a Typhoon
> >>> caused it?
> >>
> >> Come on guys, who has high jacked Kaz's account to discredit him with this
> >> nonsense?
> >
> > I guess a White supremacist high jacked it.
>
> Good, because I would hate to think that you were so bigoted and ignorant as
> to post such crap as has been attributed to you. No intelligent Japanese
> citizen would be so ignorant or so bigoted to post such crap.
Earnest, your irrational subjective ranting without showing any
reasonable proof explaining it's crap is the more crap. If you think
that is crap, then I convince that you are White supremacist trying to
hide the truth or something. For you silly White supremacist, only
those racist honorary White would be the intelligent Japanese. It's
pathetic Earnest. You sound like a dumb sick retarded racist.
> I hope you find the White supremacist and sue he/her for defamation of
> character, since such nonsense as the statement that "America does NOT teach
> the casualty of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
Surely they don't teach. They teach it as "the act of justice against
the evil Japanese". Nothing about its actual casualties and the
cruelty. And that's why they only exhibit Enola Gay and refuse to
exhibit vestiges of its casualties in the Smithsonian museum.
> True, I don't have a high regard for you,
Because you are a nasty unrepentant racist. As a matter of fact, more
likely a criminal to me.
> but even you know better than
> that.
Of course I know you are nasty White supremacist abusing coloreds.
Anyway, this is a place for discussing about, not for ranting one's
emotional racial attitude like you do.
Kaz
Mr. retarded racist, it's only your subjective view. You feel it in
that way because you are subconsciously a sick White supremacist
sympathizing with Chinese supremacists. The Chinese supremacist Xiao
li is expressing more extreme bigotry against the Japanese. But you
don't point it out. That would be a good proof explaining White
supremacists conspire together with the Chinese supremacists.
Thomas
> ...No cool headed person today, Japanese or otherwise,
> thinks Japanese had a chance delayed or not. Japan was an economy 10%
> of the US in 1940. Enough said.
If military victory and defeat was a mere calculation of Gross
Domestic Product, then, the Athenian Empire would have handily beaten
Sparta and it's Peloponnesian allies, the U.S. would still be a
British colony, the Israelis would have been pushed into the sea in
1948, and Saigon today would be the capitol of a united Vietnam.
mtfe...@netscape.net
>> kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 12:21 AM:
>>
>> > Ernest Schaal <esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>> > news:<BB767ABF.634C%esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp>...
>> >> kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/30/03 1:18 PM:
>> >>
>> >>> "Xiao Li" <Stedd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:85ab2228.03082...@posting.google.com...
>> >>>> matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland) wrote in message
>> >>> news:<52210046.03082...@posting.google.com>...
> Mr. retarded racist
Oh Monkey-boy, your mother's calling you.
Mike
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 10:50 AM:
> Ernest Schaal <esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
> news:<BB77588E.63C7%esc...@max.hi-ho.ne.jp>...
>>
>> Because the message shows an extreme bigotry against Chinese and the White
>> race. Previously I thought you were merely bigoted against your betters in
>> Tokyo.
>
> Mr. retarded racist, it's only your subjective view. You feel it in
> that way because you are subconsciously a sick White supremacist
> sympathizing with Chinese supremacists. The Chinese supremacist Xiao
> li is expressing more extreme bigotry against the Japanese. But you
> don't point it out. That would be a good proof explaining White
> supremacists conspire together with the Chinese supremacists.
To the person who has highjacked Kaz's account,
Your message calling me a retarded racist because I didn't comment on a
message by someone named Xiao Li shows the type of immaturity that one
expects from a USENET troll.
Are you really so dense as to not realize that I might not have read any
messages by a Xiao Li? (Hint: I haven't)
The fact that you rush the conclusion that I didn't jump to comment on a
message I didn't read really says a lot about your lack of common sense.
Maybe things will get better after you graduate from middle school.
By the way, we know you are against Chinese, Americans, and Japanese. Who
are you for?
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/31/03 10:30 AM:
Do you mean that your account wasn't highjacked, and you really are
reasponsible for the nonsense posted in you name? I was willing to give you
the benefit of a doubt that your account had been highjacked, but the
present message from you sounds too similar to the previous nonsense you
posted.
Xiao Li
> Mr. retarded racist, it's only your subjective view. You feel it in
> that way because you are subconsciously a sick White supremacist
> sympathizing with Chinese supremacists. The Chinese supremacist Xiao
> li is expressing more extreme bigotry against the Japanese. But you
> don't point it out. That would be a good proof explaining White
> supremacists conspire together with the Chinese supremacists.
Accuse me of being a Japan-hater, but don't accuse me of being a
Chinese supremacists. Not once did I ever mention that the Chinese
were superior to anyone.
vernon...@oyama.ca
@hotmail.com says...
> Earnest, your irrational subjective ranting without showing any
> reasonable proof explaining it's crap is the more crap.
>
of what you've posted here. Here's a sample of an accusation that uses
the same kind of "proof" you submit here.
"K-K-K-kaz had an affair with Queen Elizabeth!"
That has the same substance of most of what you say here.
You wouldn't know proof if it bit you on the ass.
Verno
vernon...@oyama.ca
There's nothing subjective about his statement. Your message DOES
indeed show extreme bigotry against the Chinese, whites, and your
betters in Tokyo. You are, indeed, a blatant, ignorant, ill-informed
and delusional racist. You belong in the K-K-K. You are as bad as the
worst white racist. You blame all your failures and your lack of social
skills on racism. Sure, you've been treated badly by some whites. But
that's because you are an asshole, not because you're Japanese. Any
white who behaves as badly as you would also be treated with disdain by
right-thinking people of any race.
Verno
Kaz
<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19bbb883d...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> There's nothing subjective about his statement. Your message DOES
> indeed show extreme bigotry against the Chinese, whites, and your
> betters in Tokyo.
Those Chinese, Whites and honorary White Tokyoites, all of them have extreme
bigotry against ordinary Japanese like me so they are morally not qualified
to complain about it.
Or are you trying to claim that they are privileged class so their bigotry
must be tolerated or something?
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>
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.19bbb883d...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > There's nothing subjective about his statement. Your message DOES
> > indeed show extreme bigotry against the Chinese, whites, and your
> > betters in Tokyo.
>
> Those Chinese, Whites and honorary White Tokyoites, all of them have extreme
> bigotry against ordinary Japanese like me so they are morally not qualified
> to complain about it.
And the list grows . . . .
verno
Yaofeng
You stated your own folly. The outcome of wars depend on many
factors. Each war is different. I have no time, nor desire or energy
to devote time to study each one you mentioned. Suffice to say when a
midget economy attacked another ten times its size and when each side
has the same desire to fight to the gory end to win, the outcome is
obvious.
Yaofeng
ircirc
world" and to do so, they had to conquer China first espouse their
insane attitudes towards other people. They were so blinded by their
greed and inhumanity that GDP, logic, common sense and even the
alliance with the Nazi's were of no concern to them. Originally, the
Nazis wanted the japs to attack Russia on both sides and leave the
much weaker China for later. The collapse of Russia may not drew the
US into war that immediately and the plan is in plain view better that
the what the japs put in place. By invading China with substantial
force and sneak attacking Pearl Habor and drawing the Americans into
war, the Axis have to meeting a well rested enemy who is able to
attack from both sides, ultimately undermining the Axis campaign.
Of course no cool headed person should think like that today but it is
not a good idea to think of the japs as either cool headed or person.
They have a core desire to leave their little island and expand inland
which has been their pattern for the last 1000 years. Viewing their
net forums, they consider the US as a tiger in their front door and
China as a wolf in their back door, to be eliminated by them when the
chance arises. Despite the fact that both countries never
unprovokedly attack them and offered them a great deal in terms of
culture and technology at various points of history. Today, there is
much celebration of the imperial glory days which still claim the japs
could've won the war if they've played their cards right. The
younger generation refer themselves as the descendents of the Great
Imperial Empire (which is not true because the little island is
smaller than most of the US state and empire required a conglomeration
of people from different racial backgrounds.) which is temporarily
residing under the US.
Pathetic creatures, arent' they??
ugly duckling
> Exactly, the little japs' naked expressed intention to "conquer the
> world" and to do so, they had to conquer China first espouse their
> insane attitudes towards other people.
Puhahahaha~... Don't be ridiculous. If anybody is doing this, it is
China with your evil "chounghua-ism."
You Chinese are just mentally projecting your own ugliness on
Japan. Stop perverting the truth.
>They were so blinded by their
> greed and inhumanity that GDP, logic, common sense and even the
> alliance with the Nazi's were of no concern to them.
It is usually Chinese people who are blinded by all kinds of greed,
jealousy, and hatred.
>Originally, the
> Nazis wanted the japs to attack Russia on both sides and leave the
> much weaker China for later.
What a fantastic novel.
>The collapse of Russia may not drew the
> US into war that immediately and the plan is in plain view better that
> the what the japs put in place.
Stupid moron, there is no country in this world which plans things so
accurately, because international politics is so vastly complicated.
Got it?
Nations just respond to whatever befits the situations at the time.
[Rest of the mindless drivel snipped]
> Pathetic creatures, arent' they??
Yes, you sure are.
ugly duckling
ircirc
Hey dickhead, this was posted in USA group and I'm an American, you
master remember? And what I wrote were taught in University of
Chicago. If you are so macho, show what little dick you have and
revoke the "alliance"? Would you?
ugly duckling
are an ignorant chinaman.
So stop hiding yourself.
ugly duckling
<ircirc> wrote in message news:pr1alv862mddn0s3r...@4ax.com...
ircirc
you still in highschool?
ugly duckling
You are still a chinaman as I see it.
ugly duckling
<ircirc> wrote in message news:nu2alv4b0n3e58m31...@4ax.com...
Thomas
> The outcome of wars depend on many
> factors.
Then why did you list only economic determinism?
> Each war is different. I have no
> time, nor desire or energy
> to devote time to study each one you mentioned.
You should, perhaps, start by studying the Pacific war.
> ...when each side has the same desire
> to fight to the gory end to win...
The Japanese had no more intention of landing troops in California and
marching on Washington D.C. than they had of marching on Moscow from
Port Arthur a century earlier. You would know this if you had the
faintest inkling of Japanese strategy and aims.
Ernest Schaal
uglydu...@somewhere.com wrote on 9/3/03 7:03 AM:
> Who cares where the message is coming from.
> You are still a chinaman as I see it.
Congratulations. Mr. Ugly Duckling is the proud winner of the most
ridiculous racist statement of the day.
Yaofeng
> Yaofeng wrote:
>
> > The outcome of wars depend on many
> > factors.
>
> Then why did you list only economic determinism?
For no other reason than it is a dominant one.
>
> > Each war is different. I have no
> > time, nor desire or energy
> > to devote time to study each one you mentioned.
>
> You should, perhaps, start by studying the Pacific war.
Who is to say I do not have more knowledge of it than you. maybe I do.
>
> > ...when each side has the same desire
> > to fight to the gory end to win...
>
> The Japanese had no more intention of landing troops in California and
> marching on Washington D.C. than they had of marching on Moscow from
> Port Arthur a century earlier. You would know this if you had the
> faintest inkling of Japanese strategy and aims.
Facts known to most but irrelevant....
MatthewOutland
> Three questions for you, K-K-K-kaz.
>
> 1. Did Japan engage in any aggression in Asia BEFORE Pearl Harbour?
Yes, French indochina
>
> 2. Was the American embargo on Japanese oil shipments connected in any
> way with Japan's aggression in Asia?
Yes, becaus the french were allied with the anit-jew nazis, and japan
wanted to protect the jews from the french, but sick ape british and
dutch hated jews.
> 3. Is it your contention that Japan was simply "defending itself" when
> it attacked Pearl Harbour?
Yes, they were supplying the brutal chinese an the dumb inhumane
anti-jewish dutch
>
> I know these are disturbing thoughts, K-K-K-kaz, but if you can't admit
> this very simple chain of events, there's no way anyone with any
> intelligence can have a rational discussion with you.
I do, admit it.
> So how about it, K-K-K-kaz? Show us your intellectual bona fides. And
> no, that doesn't require opening your zipper.
Kis my ass. Kaz's reasoning was flawed at first, but now it has
become subtle and swift.
>
> Verno
vernon...@oyama.ca
matthewo...@yahoo.com says...
> Kaz's reasoning was flawed at first, but now it has
> become subtle and swift.
>
Verno
Johnny Hallyday - France's Elvis
> americans have committed against japanese. Iw as never taught
> fireboming of tokyo(which killed hundreds of thousands of people).
> And it is not taught in korean or taiwanese schools or american
> schools who like to portray themselves as the "victim" of japan, even
> though they committed horrible arocities against the japanese, and
> probablyt consider the firebomibg of tokyo a "Fabrication".
>
> Stupid people, why don't you realize your blind hatred against
> japanese and believeing they should be exterminated?
It is a Japanese FABRICATION.
Ernest Schaal
- France's Elvis at johnnyhal...@yahoo.de wrote on 9/7/03 7:27 AM:
Question: is MatthewOutland really Kaz or Kevin Gowen or both? There seems
to be consistent lack of consistency in all three that makes me wonder.
Kaz
I feel Ernest's strong hatred against the Japanese, and his believing
that the Japanese are not humans, and they should be exterminated.
mtfe...@netscape.net
>> in article 5c82328d.03090...@posting.google.com, Johnny Hallyday
>> - France's Elvis at johnnyhal...@yahoo.de wrote on 9/7/03 7:27 AM:
>>
>> > matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland) wrote in message
>> > news:<52210046.03082...@posting.google.com>...
>> >> I find it strange that it is not taught in US schools the war crimes
>> >> americans have committed against japanese. Iw as never taught
>> >> fireboming of tokyo(which killed hundreds of thousands of people).
>> >> And it is not taught in korean or taiwanese schools or american
>> >> schools who like to portray themselves as the "victim" of japan, even
>> >> though they committed horrible arocities against the japanese, and
>> >> probablyt consider the firebomibg of tokyo a "Fabrication".
>> > It is a Japanese FABRICATION.
>>
>> Question: is MatthewOutland really Monkey-boy or Kevin Gowen or both? There seems
>> to be consistent lack of consistency in all three that makes me wonder.
> that the Japanese are not humans, and they should be exterminated.
Can't believe you came right out and admitted it, Monkey-boy.
Mike
Ernest Schaal
kaz...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/7/03 10:04 PM:
Kaz and/or Kevin Gowen and/or MatthewOutland, get real and stop projecting
your bigotry onto others.
The only one among us with a strong hatred against the Japanese is you, with
your racist slurs against every Japanese outside Osaka-ken.
Your frequent statements under the Kaz name against Tokyo Japanese show a
troubled mind, and further statements by you have shown a hatred of Kyushu.
Other messages are against residents of northern Osaka, Nara, and even the
poor burakumin.
Your statements are so outlandish and so inconsistent and so similar in tone
to statements by Kevin Gowen and MatthewOutland that I wonder if you are the
same troll.
Cindy
> Kaz and/or Kevin Gowen and/or MatthewOutland, get real and stop projecting
> your bigotry onto others.
>
> The only one among us with a strong hatred against the Japanese is you, with
> your racist slurs against every Japanese outside Osaka-ken.
>
> Your frequent statements under the Kaz name against Tokyo Japanese show a
> troubled mind, and further statements by you have shown a hatred of Kyushu.
> Other messages are against residents of northern Osaka, Nara, and even the
> poor burakumin.
>
> Your statements are so outlandish and so inconsistent and so similar in tone
> to statements by Kevin Gowen and MatthewOutland that I wonder if you are the
> same troll.
>
It would be a lot more tolerable if he or they had some sense of humor
and entertaining writing skills.
vernon...@oyama.ca
says...
more desirable than a disagreeable one. If anything, the entertaining
racists are worse. Their hateful message seems more acceptable since it
is dressed up with humour. But a racist is a racist is a racist.
Verno
Cindy
> I respectfully disagree. I don't think an entertaining racist is any
> more desirable than a disagreeable one. If anything, the entertaining
> racists are worse. Their hateful message seems more acceptable since it
> is dressed up with humour. But a racist is a racist is a racist.
>
Have you ever seen or heard how the British people make fun of the
Irish? What can you do about it?
vernon...@oyama.ca
says...
What to do about it? I know some would say no racist comments are ever
acceptable. However, what is/is not acceptable depends on the setting,
the intent, and the audience, IMHO.
On a newsgroup like this, where we don't really know one another and
there are people of all racial groups, I don't think racist comments
should be considered acceptable. When I was in high school my friends
included a veritable "united nations" of races and nationalities. We
often referred to one another by racist names. "Nip", "Chopper",
"Licorice", "White Bread", "Wop", and Kraut" are some of the nicknames
given to various group members. These names were not meant to hurt, and
were not considered hurtful by the people so named.
But race-based names don't travel well. To call a German person with
whom I was not friends "Kraut" could easily be interpreted as intended
to hurt or belittle. That isn't acceptable IMHO.
I don't see people on this newsgroup using race-based nicknames as
innocent, friendly "handles". It looks to me as though they're meant to
sting.
What's worse, even when meant innocently, race-based nicknames may carry
with them unintended and subtly harmful racial stereotypes, which makes
me wonder sometimes whether it is EVER appropriate to use them.
Verno
Rindler Sigurd
> whom I was not friends "Kraut" could easily be interpreted as intended
> to hurt or belittle. That isn't acceptable IMHO.
>
....unless the Kraut is a fundamentalist vegetarian. The Germans call the
Italians "Spagetties", but most get a chuckle out of it. It really depends
from which area people come from.
Try to use "Kraut" in Munich.... This would have very little effect on real
Bavarians since they identify themselves as such. Being a German is
secondary.
Sigi
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Silvio Franke
Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
> > But race-based names don't travel well. To call a German person with
> > whom I was not friends "Kraut" could easily be interpreted as intended
> > to hurt or belittle. That isn't acceptable IMHO.
> >
>
> ....unless the Kraut is a fundamentalist vegetarian. The Germans call the
> Italians "Spagetties", but most get a chuckle out of it. It really depends
> from which area people come from.
> Try to use "Kraut" in Munich.... This would have very little effect on real
> Bavarians since they identify themselves as such. Being a German is
> secondary.
>
> Sigi
...the different kinds of Kraut are very healthy..hmm well...
Using "Preusse" in Munich is much more effectfull on real Bavarians.
Try it out!
Silvio
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Rindler Sigurd
>
> Using "Preusse" in Munich is much more effectfull on real Bavarians.
> Try it out!
Only shouting it from within a tank...
On the other hand, some natives might not understand it as "Preiss".
Silvio Franke
Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
> > ...the different kinds of Kraut are very healthy..hmm well...
> >
> > Using "Preusse" in Munich is much more effectfull on real Bavarians.
> > Try it out!
>
> Only shouting it from within a tank...
> On the other hand, some natives might not understand it as "Preiss".
Oh believe me, they understand it. Somehow they even now, if you are
only thinking about it...
Silvio
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Kaz
> When I was in high school my friends
> included a veritable "united nations" of races and nationalities. We
> often referred to one another by racist names. "Nip", "Chopper",
> "Licorice", "White Bread", "Wop", and Kraut" are some of the nicknames
> given to various group members.
Yes, Canadians are dumb fucking retarded racists who always call
someone with such aggressive terms. Nevertheless, Why are you deny
being a racist so much?
You should be aware that if you deny your being racist, it's only
telling people that you are liar.
Kaz
I'm wondering why you don't realize the fact that the Whites make fun
of you "nip ape" while you know it.
The only appropriate answer striking my mind for that is "Cindy is
stupid".
Cindy
> I'm wondering why you don't realize the fact that the Whites make fun
> of you "nip ape" while you know it.
>
> The only appropriate answer striking my mind for that is "Cindy is
I am extremely busy lately. Therefore, I have been forced myself to
have selective hearing.
By the way, what you are doing most of the time is called "projection"
in speech / communication field.
Cindy
>
> Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
>>>...the different kinds of Kraut are very healthy..hmm well...
>>>
>>>Using "Preusse" in Munich is much more effectfull on real Bavarians.
>>>Try it out!
>>
>>Only shouting it from within a tank...
>>On the other hand, some natives might not understand it as "Preiss".
>
>
> Oh believe me, they understand it. Somehow they even now, if you are
> only thinking about it...
Now, you guys are somewhere out the space. I don't get
the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
mtfe...@netscape.net
>> When I was in high school my friends
>> included a veritable "united nations" of races and nationalities. We
>> often referred to one another by racist names. "Nip", "Chopper",
>> "Licorice", "White Bread", "Wop", and Kraut" are some of the nicknames
>> given to various group members.
> Yes, Canadians are dumb fucking retarded racists who always call
> someone with such aggressive terms.
What was that you said about "irony", Monkey-boy?
Mike
vernon...@oyama.ca
cind...@attb.com says...
Verno
vernon...@oyama.ca
@hotmail.com says...
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.19c6bc3eb...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
>
> > When I was in high school my friends
> > included a veritable "united nations" of races and nationalities. We
> > often referred to one another by racist names. "Nip", "Chopper",
> > "Licorice", "White Bread", "Wop", and Kraut" are some of the nicknames
> > given to various group members.
>
> Yes, Canadians are dumb fucking retarded racists who always call
> someone with such aggressive terms.
>
ROTFLMAO!!
But you don't get it, do you K-K-K-kaz!
Bwahhahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!
Verno
Rindler Sigurd
> the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
Hai, hai... Sigi desu!
Preusse and Preiss are German varieties for residents of Prussia...
Silvio Franke
Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
> > Now, you guys are somewhere out the space. I don't get
> > the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
>
> Hai, hai... Sigi desu!
> Preusse and Preiss are German varieties for residents of Prussia...
To be more concretely: Preiss is the Bavarian dialect-pronounciation
for Preusse. The Bavarians use it as expletive for nearly all
Non-Bavarians, too.
Examples: Du Saupreiss, du japanischer...
Du Saupreiss, du amerianischer...
On the other side: Try to use "Bazi" in Berlin... :-)
Silvio
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Silvio Franke
Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
> > Now, you guys are somewhere out the space. I don't get
> > the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
>
> Hai, hai... Sigi desu!
> Preusse and Preiss are German varieties for residents of Prussia...
To be more concretely: Preiss is the Bavarian dialect-pronounciation
for Preusse. The Bavarians use it as expletive for nearly all
Non-Bavarians, too.
Examples: Du Saupreiss, du japanischer...
Du Saupreiss, du amerianischer...
On the other side: Try to use "Bazi" in Berlin... :-)
Silvio
Cindy
>>Now, you guys are somewhere out the space. I don't get
>>the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
>
>
>
> Hai, hai... Sigi desu!
> Preusse and Preiss are German varieties for residents of Prussia...
Oh, naruhodo. Do you still use the terms?
Cindy
> Rindler Sigurd schrieb:
>
>>>Now, you guys are somewhere out the space. I don't get
>>>the waves from you. Moshi moshi! Moshi moshi!
>>
>>Hai, hai... Sigi desu!
>>Preusse and Preiss are German varieties for residents of Prussia...
>
>
> To be more concretely: Preiss is the Bavarian dialect-pronounciation
> for Preusse.
So basically same thing (meaning).
The Bavarians use it as expletive for nearly all
> Non-Bavarians, too.
> Examples: Du Saupreiss, du japanischer...
> Du Saupreiss, du amerianischer...
>
> On the other side: Try to use "Bazi" in Berlin... :-)
Do the Bavarians get along with the Bazi?