http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
and wonder whether this is true. According to this enterprise, the number of
online users is very close to 14,000,000. That's 4 to 5 times that of
Kazaa...
If this is true, it might be well worth to join this 1.99$/month goodie.
Has anybody experience with it?
Sigi
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>I received the following email
>
>http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
>
>and wonder whether this is true. According to this enterprise, the number of
>online users is very close to 14,000,000. That's 4 to 5 times that of
>Kazaa...
>If this is true, it might be well worth to join this 1.99$/month goodie.
>Has anybody experience with it?
>
Never heard of it, but I would be leery of it. Why register and pay a
fee to engage in an illegal activity? Without ever saying it, they
give the impression (at least to me) that their service solves the
piracy issues plaguing other services such as Kazaa.
And what is up with their home page http://www.247downloads.com ? The
whole page is nothing but one large gif file. Clicking anywhere on the
page takes you to the signup form. Call me paranoid, but I smell a
rat.
>And what is up with their home page http://www.247downloads.com ? The
>whole page is nothing but one large gif file. Clicking anywhere on the
>page takes you to the signup form. Call me paranoid, but I smell a
>rat.
Clarification:
You can also reach the privacy statement and the legal stuff.
And members' area
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
>yazdi:6tbnpvc463k6rve4s...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:52:41 +0900, Michael Cash
>> <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>>
>>
>> >And what is up with their home page http://www.247downloads.com ? The
>> >whole page is nothing but one large gif file. Clicking anywhere on the
>> >page takes you to the signup form. Call me paranoid, but I smell a
>> >rat.
>>
>> Clarification:
>>
>> You can also reach the privacy statement and the legal stuff.
>>
>
>And members' area
I didn't bother clicking on that. I figured you had to already be
signed up (read: paying them money) in order to access it.
With all the fuss over p2p services, I think that if there were truly
a service out there with 14 or 15 million users online we would have
heard about it in the news before now. I suspect that what they
actually do is use some proprietary software to connect to the various
free p2p networks.
Most probably. Because "unlimited content, share nothing" got me thinkin...
Besides if no one shares, what's the point of becoming member to a
14-million-member network?
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
>yazdi:mvinpv0la9jm8r9vt...@4ax.com...
>> With all the fuss over p2p services, I think that if there were truly
>> a service out there with 14 or 15 million users online we would have
>> heard about it in the news before now. I suspect that what they
>> actually do is use some proprietary software to connect to the various
>> free p2p networks.
>>
>
>Most probably. Because "unlimited content, share nothing" got me thinkin...
>Besides if no one shares, what's the point of becoming member to a
>14-million-member network?
Which is the reason I quit Kazaa. It turned into a network full of
leeches.
These days I like WinMX. Best of all, I like being able to use MX Moni
to prevent leeches from downloading from me.
> http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
For that minority of for whom such things matter, this is a
not-for-Macintosh operation.
--
///--- Vote for the richest Republican. He understand the common man.
>In article <3f9b5b5b$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com>, SR
><srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>> http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
>
>For that minority of for whom such things matter, this is a
>not-for-Macintosh operation.
It must be for Windows.
(I only said that in order to provide an opportunity for the members
of the Linux community to make a disparaging comment).
WinMX was the reason I tried out Kazaa Lite. WinMX used to be pretty useful but
the last year or so I used it everything I searched for was qued forever and
nothing was actually available. Also the paid shills on usenet seemed to have
much more of in interest in promoting a semi-useless service than actually
addressing questions re the program. Has WinMX improved at all or is evereything
still coming up as forever qued ?
Kazaa is OK if you're not looking for anything too tough. Lots of Brittany
Spears, Madonna, Garth Brooks... but if you're hunting for hard to find programs
or ebooks or anything that hasn't made top 40 it's tough.
TT
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Back in my ftp days there used to be an upload/download ratio, which was
used for preventing leeching. But this was for plain old ftp. I used
napster for a very short time and got no clue about Kazaa, although I know
it is very famous for file sharing.
By the way, this is my first posting to this newsgroup on my new Slackware Linux
box. It took me 2 hours to configure, so I wanted to celebrate it here :)
> By the way, this is my first posting to this newsgroup on my new Slackware
> Linux box. It took me 2 hours to configure, so I wanted to celebrate it
> here :)
Congrats, but you could configure it a little more to not display the
headers of the person you are quoting, or trim them yourself....
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>
> Haluk <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote:
>
>> By the way, this is my first posting to this newsgroup on my new Slackware
>> Linux box. It took me 2 hours to configure, so I wanted to celebrate it
>> here :)
>
> Congrats, but you could configure it a little more to not display the
> headers of the person you are quoting, or trim them yourself....
>
Sorry, didn't realize.
> > Congrats, but you could configure it a little more to not display the
> > headers of the person you are quoting, or trim them yourself....
> >
>
> Sorry, didn't realize.
No problem.
Bill Gates, load of crap, shitting security, a billion security updates that
don't fix anything, lousey scheduling, proprietory software written by shit
programmers, arrogant monopoly, ignoring standards.
(something like that?)
.
----
"No country hides itself behind the paper screen of cultural elitism like Japan,
which, considering they've bought their entire civilisation from other people's
hand-me-downs, is a bit of a liberty."
>On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:21:58 +0900, Michael Cash ...
>>
>>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:14:09 -0800, Gerry
>><222...@adelphia.net.invalid> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>with:
>>
>>>In article <3f9b5b5b$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com>, SR
>>><srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
>>>
>>>For that minority of for whom such things matter, this is a
>>>not-for-Macintosh operation.
>>
>>It must be for Windows.
>>
>>(I only said that in order to provide an opportunity for the members
>>of the Linux community to make a disparaging comment).
>>
>
>Bill Gates, load of crap, shitting security, a billion security updates that
>don't fix anything, lousey scheduling, proprietory software written by shit
>programmers, arrogant monopoly, ignoring standards.
>
>
>(something like that?)
I'd also like to add the following: condescending interfaces, idiot-savant
documentation, the FUCKING MS OFFICE DOLPHIN, and MS-DOS.
--
The 2-Belo
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> By the way, this is my first posting to this newsgroup on my new Slackware Linux
> box. It took me 2 hours to configure, so I wanted to celebrate it here :)
>
Good thing you didn't use Mandrake. It likes to eat CD-ROM drives.
Meaning: It damages CD-ROM drives? What does the software actually do here?
Yes.
> What does the software actually do here?
>
It totally destroys the CD-ROM drive.
As in: Dead. Gone. Fucked. Gone the way of the dodo. Shitcanned.
Fucked Up Beyond All Repair. Kaput. Paperweighted. Jimmy Hoffa'd.
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3
Emphasis mine.
"Error scenario: Installing 9.2 and being told unable to install the
base system and subsequent reboot reveals that CD-ROM drive
is physically dead.
Why: According to LG Electronics, their ODD (Optical Disc Drive)
products do not support Linux nor do they test with Linux. Unfortunately,
many Dell computers (possibly others) come with these CD-ROM drives.
Solution: Currently there is no solution or work-around for this issue; it
is still under investigation. Damage occurs even when doing a network
install. At this point, please do not install Mandrake Linux 9.2 on any
computer containing a LG-based CD-ROM drive or it *will* damage
your CD-ROM drive! We are actively looking for a solution to this problem."
I'd make a comment about Linicks sucking here, but I don't think I can do
any better than what Mandrake Soft has already done.
It's a scenario somewhat like the one Penny Arcade tackled recently:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-09-24&res=l
Click on "News" to see what they are talking about.
Hearing something like this makes me wonder as to the wisdom of my comment
to a local JET that upgrading to WinXPee could NOT have fried her hard disk.
Screwed up the BIOS - potentially, through doubtful. Made the whole system
sluggish (we're talking a 500 Celeron notebook with only 256mb RAM) -
definitely. But I felt confident enough to tell her that installing a new
OS couldn't wreck her hard drive. Anyway, we found a 30gig replacement for
her pathetic 6gig for about 10000yen. All her document data was still on in
my external USB 2.0 disk having helped her upgrade previously.
She's quite happy now 'coz she's got room to d/load and keep shit now.
--
jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"
No one other than yours truly lauds the praises of Bittorrents much - so
I'll do it again - great speeds, very few dodgy files (in that everyone
basically downloads the same file - if it's not what it claims to be then
they don't bother seeding it on and waste everyone's time) - and at the
moment at least the whole thing seems to work on an honor system - the
download clients tell you when you've seeded as much as you've leeched of a
particular file.
So what if Paramount and Universal studios contacted several leecher's ISPs
to complain that their users were downloading copyrighted material - in
Universal's case they were monitoring downloads of a dvd mirror image of
National Lampoon's Animal House - seems very appropriate. The ISPs probably
put their users on "double secret probation".
I must admit - or rather a 'friend of mine' must admit - that the sheer
volume of material available is somewhat daunting. Like Japanese tourists
claiming American shopping malls are too large for them to comfortably shop
in - kaimono overload!
I doubt XP, or any OS for that matter, could fry a HDD. Then again, a week ago
I would have said the same about a CD-ROM drive...
> Screwed up the BIOS - potentially, through doubtful.
>
I agree, doubtful but possible.
> Made the whole system sluggish (we're talking a 500 Celeron notebook
> with only 256mb RAM) - definitely.
>
You were expecting it to run snappy?
I've got a fucking 1 GHz Athlon with 384 MB of RAM and it's almost unbearable.
I was forced to "upgrade" my main machine when I got my new 200 GB HDD about
a month ago. Trusty, faithful and rock solid NT was just too old to cope with the
gargantuan HDD I tried to cram into it.
Also, my local (community) college just "upgraded" about 75 computers from the
stone-age to XP. Try to imagine a 300 MHz *celeron* crunch the UI alone.
They have just about *everything* running on those fuckers too. Photoshop, Maple,
Premiere, Matlab, Visual Studio. You have to click on the icon for Photoshop and
then run out and get a cup of coffee it's so goddamn slow.
> But I felt confident enough to tell her that installing a new OS couldn't wreck
> her hard drive.
>
One thing that may have happened is that XP misdetected her HDD controller.
If that happened, the disk geometry would have been totally wrecked. Though a
format should have cleared it.
Probably just a coincidence. Like the time when I was fapping and the whole house
started to shake (DAMN I'm good!). It wasn't until I had finished that I realised I had
been fapping when an earthquake hit.
Sometimes strange things happen like that.
Know any good trackers?
Most of the ones I used to use went tits up.
Yeah, never give HD to ducks :)
Are you sure it is not the CD itself? Because I have this cracked CD of
Soldier of Fortune, which caused my CDROM drive to make some veeery strange
cracking sounds that I haven't heard from a computer before -maybe from a
termic power plant turbine, but not from computer. Something like the gear
is stucked but the ring was revolving or the other way around.
> Are you sure it is not the CD itself?
>
Uh, pretty sure.
From my previous post and also on the Mandrake website:
"...Solution: ...Damage occurs even when doing a network
install. ..."
>I've got a fucking 1 GHz Athlon with 384 MB of RAM and it's almost unbearable.
<gratuitous remark>
It runs quite well with a 2.6GHz P4 and 1GB of RAM
</gratuitous remark>
>Michael Cash wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:47:30 +0200, "Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net>
>> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>>
>> >"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
>> >yazdi:mvinpv0la9jm8r9vt...@4ax.com...
>>
>> >> With all the fuss over p2p services, I think that if there were truly
>> >> a service out there with 14 or 15 million users online we would have
>> >> heard about it in the news before now. I suspect that what they
>> >> actually do is use some proprietary software to connect to the various
>> >> free p2p networks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Most probably. Because "unlimited content, share nothing" got me thinkin...
>> >Besides if no one shares, what's the point of becoming member to a
>> >14-million-member network?
>>
>> Which is the reason I quit Kazaa. It turned into a network full of
>> leeches.
>>
>> These days I like WinMX. Best of all, I like being able to use MX Moni
>> to prevent leeches from downloading from me.
>
>WinMX was the reason I tried out Kazaa Lite. WinMX used to be pretty useful but
>the last year or so I used it everything I searched for was qued forever and
>nothing was actually available. Also the paid shills on usenet seemed to have
>much more of in interest in promoting a semi-useless service than actually
>addressing questions re the program. Has WinMX improved at all or is evereything
>still coming up as forever qued ?
I have had tremendous success with WinMX. The secret is patience,
persistence, and deleting incompletes which have seen no action in a
week or so. Also, it makes quite a difference if you have a primary
connection instead of a secondary connection.
If you can maintain a connection and keep the program running not for
a matter of several hours, but for several *days*, then you will find
that you will have quite a bit of success with WinMX.
Another thing to be aware of is that lots of the folks who have the
most files to share really do not fucking care for leeches and will
cancel your download in a heartbeat. With me, for example, a potential
downloader can choose among 10,000 or so files. But he had damned well
better be sharing over 100, have 3 or more upload slots, and be able
to maintain a bare minimum of 3kbs/sec on the transfer. I normally
leave all that to MX Moni, but sometimes I go through and manually do
a whois on people downloading from me. If I find that their stash of
shared files consists almost entirely of their incomplete downloads, I
cut them off just on general principles.
One thing that I find irritating is to have a couple hundred megs of a
six or seven hundred meg file downloaded, to repeatedly queue up on a
rather large number of sources, to actually connect multiple
times...and still never see my file get any bigger. What has happened,
of course, is that the original person who shared the file removed it
from his shared list before a full copy of it got out and everybody is
just passing around the same partial file forever and ever.
MX Moni has a check box where you can choose to automatically ignore
users whose names include double-byte characters. At first I wondered
why this was, then as I have gained experience of dealing with
Japanese users of WinMX I have started to see why. They can be some
irritating bastards to share with. What they love to do is open up a
single upload slot and then go browsing the files of people who queue
up on them. If they see something they like, they will message you to
negotiate a direct exchange. If they don't see something they like,
you can forget about ever getting a download from them. Some others
like to open up about a hundred or so slots (in order to attract more
people to queue up, you see), and then do the same thing. If you *do*
manage to wiggle your way up their queue, you will find that you get a
download speed on the order of 0.03kb/sec. Just a single mp3 will end
up taking you on the order of 30 hours or more. Not all of them are
like that, of course, but enough of them that I have often been
tempted to check the little box and exclude them from downloading from
me. Technically, I suppose, they're not leeches. But for all practical
purposes, they are.
And your remarks about what is available on Kazaa were spot on.
Another reason I left. So what if there are 90 million files
available? 88 million of them are Brittany Spears.
> > > Good thing you didn't use Mandrake. It likes to eat CD-ROM drives.
> >
> > Meaning: It damages CD-ROM drives?
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> > What does the software actually do here?
> >
>
> It totally destroys the CD-ROM drive.
>
> I'd make a comment about Linicks sucking here, but I don't think I can do
> any better than what Mandrake Soft has already done.
The problem appears to be the CDRoms firmware is bugged. Mandrake issues
a standard command which the firmware reacts *badly* to. It doesn't
happen with the Windows drivers obviously. Should have been found in
testing by Mandrake but it's impossible to test everything. And as LG
state they don't support Linux I don't think you can blame them either.
Then again, if it's been badged with the word "Dell" that's the kiss of
death anyway.
--
Ian J Cottee
Nagoya, Japan
You can be unhappy about Mandrake not testing it's software with enough
hardware, but LG did the blunder here and any other Linux or OS
distribution could start the problem any time. In fact after reading
more about it, I wonder if my windows software Exact Audio Copy could
not be at risk ...
LG decided they didn't need to implement the FLUSH_COMMAND. Ok
Then they decide they would reuse it, apparently to do an
UPLOAD_FIRMWARE with no checksum, no protection against a random call.
The updated LG firmware from version 1.01 do not have the problem, and
the testers from Mandrake who tried the 9.2 release with an LG drive all
were using the updated firmware.
http://www.torrentlinks.com/ IMHO is the best tracker of tracker
sites...supernova, as ever, is king of the torrents - so long as you're not
after pRon stuff
I'm glad I have your approval.
> but LG did the blunder here and any other Linux or OS
> distribution could start the problem any time.
>
Which is yet another reason why I think that Linicks sucks.
> In fact after reading more about it, I wonder if my windows software
> Exact Audio Copy could not be at risk ...
>
Ah, a Windows user taking offence to a Linicks comment.
> LG decided they didn't need to implement the FLUSH_COMMAND. Ok
> Then they decide they would reuse it, apparently to do an
> UPLOAD_FIRMWARE with no checksum, no protection against a random call.
>
> The updated LG firmware from version 1.01 do not have the problem, and
> the testers from Mandrake who tried the 9.2 release with an LG drive all
> were using the updated firmware.
>
And that changes *what* exactly?
I fixed your spelling.
>No one other than yours truly lauds the praises of Bittorrents much - so
>I'll do it again - great speeds, very few dodgy files (in that everyone
>basically downloads the same file - if it's not what it claims to be then
>they don't bother seeding it on and waste everyone's time) - and at the
>moment at least the whole thing seems to work on an honor system - the
>download clients tell you when you've seeded as much as you've leeched of a
>particular file.
I gotta agree here. Bittorrent has been a godsend for me. I can now
download TV episodes from the USA a day or two after their initial
airing. And you wanna talk about movies? You can download full DVD
movies, burn 'em, and watch them months before they appear in rental
stores. I just finished downloading "The Hulk." Gonna watch it
probably tomorrow night.
>So what if Paramount and Universal studios contacted several leecher's ISPs
>to complain that their users were downloading copyrighted material - in
>Universal's case they were monitoring downloads of a dvd mirror image of
>National Lampoon's Animal House - seems very appropriate. The ISPs probably
>put their users on "double secret probation".
Napster opened the gates years ago and no one, not the RIAA, nor any
of the major movie studios will be able to stop P2Ps. The RIAA thinks
it can scare people by suing little kids and grandfathers. Did you
hear about the BBC? Their going to offer their full collection (I
think) to the public for free. Now, wouldn't it be great if the major
TV networks in the USA would offer their shows to the general public
for download via P2P?
>I must admit - or rather a 'friend of mine' must admit - that the sheer
>volume of material available is somewhat daunting. Like Japanese tourists
>claiming American shopping malls are too large for them to comfortably shop
>in - kaimono overload!
About a year ago, you could only download TV shows, movies, or animes
at places such as Kazaa, Gnutella, etc. The quality available weren't
too great and it took forever to download a decent mpeg/avi file.
Today, I can download a near perfect copy of Angel or Enterprise and
watch it on my TV. If you want music, anime, TV shows, movies,
up-to-date programs, video games, etc., you gotta use bittorrent.
Ray
Matsudo, Japan
>I gotta agree here. Bittorrent has been a godsend for me. I can now
>download TV episodes from the USA a day or two after their initial
>airing. And you wanna talk about movies? You can download full DVD
>movies, burn 'em, and watch them months before they appear in rental
>stores. I just finished downloading "The Hulk." Gonna watch it
>probably tomorrow night.
I downloaded "The Hulk", probably before it even opened it theaters.
Turns out it was the screeners preview copy that got some guy
arrested. I deleted the file. Not because I'm ethical, but because I
thought it sucked.
>I downloaded "The Hulk", probably before it even opened it theaters.
>Turns out it was the screeners preview copy that got some guy
>arrested. I deleted the file. Not because I'm ethical, but because I
>thought it sucked.
I did that once....with "The Matrix Reload" though only AFTER I saw
the movie. Never download screeners again because they're pretty
crappy and I don't mind waiting for the DVD version to come out.
Ray
Matsudo, Japan
>"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
>news:3f9b5b5b$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
>> I received the following email
>>
>> http://www.247downloads.com/promo4/access.php
>>
>> and wonder whether this is true. According to this enterprise, the number
>of
>> online users is very close to 14,000,000. That's 4 to 5 times that of
>> Kazaa...
>> If this is true, it might be well worth to join this 1.99$/month goodie.
>> Has anybody experience with it?
>>
>>
>
>No one other than yours truly lauds the praises of Bittorrents much - so
>I'll do it again - great speeds, very few dodgy files (in that everyone
>basically downloads the same file - if it's not what it claims to be then
>they don't bother seeding it on and waste everyone's time) - and at the
>moment at least the whole thing seems to work on an honor system - the
>download clients tell you when you've seeded as much as you've leeched of a
>particular file.
My friend will jump on the Bittorents Bandwagon
with ya, Brah. After playing with it all afternon,
she agrees with everything you've ever said about
it. Totally schweet!
Gaijinetics: Convincing Japanese that the path to salvation is L. Ron
Hubbard
- Michael Cash
Yeah see... I just use a dial up to check out a few tunes once in a
while or try to hunt down an interesting ebook. The thought of keeping
a connection for 30 hrs. or anything like that isn't an option. Like I
said WINMX was the P2P I used for a couple of years and I was very
happy with the way it worked but about a year and a half ago (or
something like that) they came out with a new version and all of the
sudden nothing was available and everything (I mean EVERYTHING) was
qued seemingly forever. That's one problem I haven't run into on
Kazaalite. My only beef with Kazaalite is the availability and
selection of anything unusual. I share a couple of thousand files of
weird shit that are being downloaded from me pretty much constantly
and I almost never have any trouble connecting once I've found a file
I want. The problem is finding anything I really want.
I may just try out WINMX again if the queing issue has been sorted
out. Is it still free of spy and adware?