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road rage in japan

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nobody@nowhere

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2004/03/05 21:22:192004/03/05
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HiYa

just heard of a road rage incident in Perth, where a fella chased a car to
its home and rammed it as they were getting out. There was a child getting out
of the car in the driveway, who was crushed and killed.

the family then dragged the driver out of his car, and beat him.

Police arrived, fellow is now in hospital

I don't recall seeing anything like this sort of thing in Japan while I was
there. Are there incidents of road rage there?

Raj Feridun

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2004/03/06 2:10:512004/03/06
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Michael Cash

未読、
2004/03/06 5:19:122004/03/06
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:22:19 GMT, nobody@nowhere brought down from the
Mount tablets inscribed:

Certainly there are.

I recall reading a case of a woman, a nurse, being beaten to death
with a metal bar in a road rage case. And just this evening at work
the topic came up in regards to road rage our company's strict speed
limit policy engenders in other truck drivers.


--

Michael Cash

"I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of
a high school transcript."

Dr. Howard Sprague
Dean of Admissions
Mount Pilot College

Murgi

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2004/03/06 22:59:362004/03/06
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I recall reading a case of a woman, a nurse, being beaten to death
> with a metal bar in a road rage case. And just this evening at work
> the topic came up in regards to road rage our company's strict speed
> limit policy engenders in other truck drivers.
>
>

You'd better take a valium every morning to get used to the restrictions
since we wouldn't like to miss you here for a couple of years...


Michael Cash

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2004/03/07 6:46:312004/03/07
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 03:59:36 GMT, "Murgi" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp>

brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

> I recall reading a case of a woman, a nurse, being beaten to death

I like the restrictions, actually. They have removed quite a bit of
stress from the day for me.

Bryce

未読、
2004/03/08 16:57:432004/03/08
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Yes. I experienced road rage many times in Japan.

I think it's an international thing. Just thank god you don't have to drive
around elephants or cows in the way as well!


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Drew Hamilton

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2004/03/08 16:47:122004/03/08
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In article <k99j405j7lqk8g69g...@4ax.com>, Michael Cash wrote:
>And just this evening at work
>the topic came up in regards to road rage our company's strict speed
>limit policy engenders in other truck drivers.

Aren't the speed limits on the freeways crazy low, like 60 km/h? The first
time I saw one of the signs, I asked if it was a minimum limit. Then I figured
it must be in MPH. That would engender road rage in me...

- awh

Declan Murphy

未読、
2004/03/08 22:56:022004/03/08
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Yes they are crazy low, but usually well above 60 fortunately.

--
"Oh don't give me none more of that Old Janx Spirit/ No, don't you give
me none more of that Old Janx Spirit/ For my head will fly, my tongue
will lie, my eyes will fry and I may die/ Won't you pour me one more of
that sinful Old Janx Spirit"

mr.sumo.snr

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2004/03/09 9:29:262004/03/09
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"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:404D4052...@hotmail.com...

> Drew Hamilton wrote:
> > In article <k99j405j7lqk8g69g...@4ax.com>, Michael Cash
wrote:
> >
> >>And just this evening at work
> >>the topic came up in regards to road rage our company's strict speed
> >>limit policy engenders in other truck drivers.
> >
> > Aren't the speed limits on the freeways crazy low, like 60 km/h? The
first
> > time I saw one of the signs, I asked if it was a minimum limit. Then I
figured
> > it must be in MPH. That would engender road rage in me...
>
> Yes they are crazy low, but usually well above 60 fortunately.
>

Low - but for pretty good reasons. First - two lanes of traffic! Second -
a hard shoulder that is not even the full width of a truck in many places.
Third - a central reservation across which you could reach and pull the nose
hairs from the nostril of an oncoming driver. Fourth - hairpin bends that
would NOT be out of place on the Monaco Grand Prix street circuit. Fifth -
tunnels, lots of them. Sixth - huge weather and temperature differences
between the entrances of these tunnels and the exits. Seventh - light 'kei'
cars. Eighth - Japanese drivers suck. Ninth - a country where products can
be advertised that will artificially keep you awake behind the wheel of a
vehicle when in fact common sense would dictate you stop at a parking area,
drink some coffee and take a catnap. Tenth - so highway patrol office can
really 'tut tut' when you get caught breaking the speed limit.

Anyone here ever actually get pulled over on the expressway by a patrol car
in full livery - for excessive speeding and not for something like an unsafe
lane change? If so then you deserved it. Getting caught by a marked patrol
car is just poor driving on your part - now if it was an unmarked Nissan
Skyline I can sympathize - still - the absence of seat covers, rabbit fur on
the dashboard and the presence of two men in the front seat is a bit of a
giveaway. Regular Skylines usually come standard with a bleached-blonde 18
year-old fashion-health 'veteran' in the passenger seat. I'm saving up!

--
jonathan


Declan Murphy

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2004/03/09 1:31:282004/03/09
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mr.sumo.snr wrote:
> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:404D4052...@hotmail.com...
<snip>

>>Yes they are crazy low, but usually well above 60 fortunately.
>
> Low - but for pretty good reasons. First - two lanes of traffic!

Which is a bitch whenever some poor truck driver has to overtake some
other poor truck driver, but what really sucks is when some sloooow
dickhead sits in the fast lane or pulls in front of you. As a general
rule, the truck drivers all seem to have a good understanding of
physics. Driving at night (which I do a shitload of) is so much easier
than during the day.

I love the new wangan expressway - makes it so much easier to get back
from kazville or nara. Never do less than 110/120 km/hr or so. 3 lanes
all the way from Yokkaichi to Toyota - minami, and in a few months time
connecting to the Tomei.

> Fourth - hairpin bends that
> would NOT be out of place on the Monaco Grand Prix street circuit.

Oh? Are you talking about the bends between Ida and Ina or the descent
from the tunnel towards Nakatsugawa? I slow down (to about 100) for the
later. The roads that scare me aren't the expressways, but the ordinary
garden variety national route x goat path. Crossing the pass into Nagano
on Route 151 in snow on December 20th last year was a bitch.

> Tenth - so highway patrol office can
> really 'tut tut' when you get caught breaking the speed limit.
>
> Anyone here ever actually get pulled over on the expressway by a patrol car
> in full livery - for excessive speeding and not for something like an unsafe
> lane change? If so then you deserved it.

Yes - the only time I've ever been pulled over. Must have been
distracted by the AC/DC tape or sumthin... 15000 yen for the pleasure.
http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/issue30.html

Drew Hamilton

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2004/03/09 8:56:142004/03/09
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In article <404D64C0...@hotmail.com>, Declan Murphy wrote:
>http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/issue30.html

Parking violations actually count against your license? Wow, I guess you'd
better not lend your car to anybody.

Here in Toronto, parking is so expensive, and parking tickets are so cheap,
that many people just park illegally because the tickets are less than the
cost of parking...

- awh

Declan Murphy

未読、
2004/03/09 10:21:162004/03/09
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Drew Hamilton wrote:
> In article <404D64C0...@hotmail.com>, Declan Murphy wrote:
>
>>http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/issue30.html
>
> Parking violations actually count against your license?

Only for a certain period of course.

Wow, I guess you'd
> better not lend your car to anybody.

I don't personally own a car, and there are log books for the two I
drive. I guess in theory if I lent the car to someone who went and got a
parking fine there be a messy period of explanation.

Bryce

未読、
2004/03/09 11:56:532004/03/09
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"Drew Hamilton" <a...@awh.org> wrote in message
news:086vh1-...@urd.awh.org...

It's rare anyone goes 60 or 80 as posted. On the rural highways the average
is about 110 or so.


Drew Hamilton

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2004/03/09 11:38:472004/03/09
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In article <404DE0EC...@hotmail.com>, Declan Murphy wrote:

>Drew Hamilton wrote:
>>Wow, I guess you'd
>> better not lend your car to anybody.
>
>I don't personally own a car, and there are log books for the two I
>drive. I guess in theory if I lent the car to someone who went and got a
>parking fine there be a messy period of explanation.

Do the logbooks have some sort of legal weight? IE, are the cars
registered as belonging to the school, so that when someone parks
illegally the authorities can ask to examine the logbooks to
determine whose license to dock?

- awh

Bryce

未読、
2004/03/09 12:05:042004/03/09
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"Drew Hamilton" <a...@awh.org> wrote in message
news:u0v0i1...@urd.awh.org...

> In article <404D64C0...@hotmail.com>, Declan Murphy wrote:
> >http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/issue30.html
>
> Parking violations actually count against your license? Wow, I guess
you'd
> better not lend your car to anybody.
>

That's why you need to carry around bolt cutters.


Declan Murphy

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2004/03/09 20:12:182004/03/09
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No idea whatsoever fortunately. One belongs to the Institute, one to my
company. I'd imagine that in the case of companies whose vehicles have
multiple drivers, taxi firms etc that they would have systems in place.
Whether our logs would be usable in a similar context is something I
hope remains unknown for now.

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