is Gyuudon a concern
Musashi
Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the gyuudon
coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
this just a JP thing?
Bryce
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Haluk Skywalker
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I recommend you to revise the last sentence as "Is the ban on US beef into
Japan bothering any Amerikajin..." because as you sure know gaikokujin !=
amerikajin.
You banned US beef in JAPAN? With current republican administration of the
US, I don't think that was a wise thing to do.
Musashi
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> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp>, iletide ţunu yazdý
> news:HQuWb.33801$bZ7....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
> > Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
> gyuudon
> > coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
> > this just a JP thing?
>
> I recommend you to revise the last sentence as "Is the ban on US beef into
> Japan bothering any Amerikajin..." because as you sure know gaikokujin !=
> amerikajin.
>
While it is true that no people on earth eat as much beef as Americans, my
question wasn't a political one. And it wasn't meant just for Amerikajin. It
was
meant for all gaikokujin in Japan.
> You banned US beef in JAPAN? With current republican administration of the
> US, I don't think that was a wise thing to do.
>
uhh..weren't you aware of this?
The current Bush adminstration is very buddy buddy with the Koizumi
adminstration
you know..they throw baseballs around together...send people to Iraq..things
like that
so I don't see any concern. Besides, it's probably temporary anyway since
there are only
a finite number of beef sources on this planet and Japan can't ban every
single one of them.
Brett Robson
>
>
>"Haluk Skywalker" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
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>> news:HQuWb.33801$bZ7....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>> > Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
>> > Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
>> gyuudon
>> > coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
>> > this just a JP thing?
>>
>> I recommend you to revise the last sentence as "Is the ban on US beef into
>> Japan bothering any Amerikajin..." because as you sure know gaikokujin !=
>> amerikajin.
>>
>
>While it is true that no people on earth eat as much beef as Americans, my
>question wasn't a political one. And it wasn't meant just for Amerikajin. It
>was
>meant for all gaikokujin in Japan.
>
This non Amerikajin is worried.
I regularly fill my freezer with cheap beef from Hamamasa (?). My freezer was
full when the ban started so I wasn't able to buy any more, and so I haven't
been shopping for beef recently. I don't eat pig so it will really suck.
And to second Bryce, life with out yakiniku and Wendy's hamburgers would really
suck.
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It would be an issue if I enjoyed eating fatty meat - since this is
apparently why Austrian beef cannot be substituted for Sepponian beef - it's
too damn lean. Japanese men like their fat - a claim I fully acknowledge to
be true dating from the first time I ever ate a Japanese-style piece of
steak and was literally reaching for the water jug to help swallow whole the
pieces of lard on my plate. The fact that Japanese McDonalds hamburgers are
so much dryer than either UK or American is a bit of a mystery. Actually I
wanted to ask an North American McDonald's worker if they too use microwave
ovens to heat up the partially cooked burgers as they do in Japan.
Thankfully I discovered the local Brazilian butcher shop several years ago.
Excellent, lean, Austrian beef at rock bottom prices - cut or minced to
order. They also have a chicken rotisserie thingie at the weekends - a
whole roast chicken for about 1800yen - very Moorish.
--
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It would be an issue if I enjoyed eating fatty meat - since this is
> apparently why Austrian beef cannot be substituted for Sepponian beef -
it's
> too damn lean.
Sepponian beef is just as lean as Austrian, generally. I believe the stuff
that the Japanese import is mostly raised especially for export, sometimes
by Japanese cowboys.
That fatty Japanese beef is quite nice as yakiniku. But I couldn't really
stand that yoshinoya lard-fest either. I used to enjoy getting the breakfast
there though, broiled salmon, rice with raw egg, nori and takuan were quite
tasty.
Down here in not-quite-Japan, I haven't seen any impact on beef prices or
availability, even on the beef from the bases which sometimes falls of the
backs of trucks and ends up in vendors' stalls.
> The fact that Japanese McDonalds hamburgers are
> so much dryer than either UK or American is a bit of a mystery.
It's the reconstituted soy protein.
> Actually I
> wanted to ask an North American McDonald's worker if they too use
microwave
> ovens to heat up the partially cooked burgers as they do in Japan.
It appears so, although since they contain actual beef and the concept of
product liability actually exists, they are pretty careful to heat them to
critter-killing temps on the grill.
> Thankfully I discovered the local Brazilian butcher shop several years
ago.
> Excellent, lean, Austrian beef at rock bottom prices - cut or minced to
> order. They also have a chicken rotisserie thingie at the weekends - a
> whole roast chicken for about 1800yen - very Moorish.
Ah, churrasco in Brazil -- some of the best meat I have ever eaten.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Brett Robson
>
>Thankfully I discovered the local Brazilian butcher shop several years ago.
Best thing about Aichi was the Brazilians, saved my life. But can't find any
Brazilian shops in Kawasaki or Tokyo.
Declan Murphy
Whatever.
> Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the gyuudon
> coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
> this just a JP thing?
For me, nope. The only yoshinoya I've ever eaten in was in Taipei
about 5 years ago. The gyuudons I prefer to eat use matsusaka, omi or
hida beef. For shabushabu its the same, and when I feel like chomping
on a steak it is invariably Austria's finest. I would be bothered if
the prices went up though...
Rafael Caetano
(...)
> Ah, churrasco in Brazil -- some of the best meat I have ever eaten.
Me too.
But wait, I have never eaten "real" meat elsewhere (yakiniku doesn't
count).
Out of curiosity, where in Brazil did you eat churrasco? People from
Rio Grande do Sul (the southernmost state) are pretty snobbish about
it. And north of Sao Paulo I guess it's not so traditional.
Rafael Caetano
Dave Fossett
> Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
gyuudon
> coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
> this just a JP thing?
It doesn't bother me at all, but I would wish supermarkets would take the
chance to start promoting lamb instead. All we get round here are those
frozen reconstituted slices sold for "Genghis Khan".
--
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Saitama, Japan
Ryan Ginstrom
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I had it in Sao Paulo, Foz de Iguacu, and some podunk town out in O Pantanal
whose name escapes me. I think that Foz de Iguacu was the best.
I also had it in Argentina, strangely enough.
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Ryan Ginstrom
Brett Robson
My local life usually has packets of 6 lamb chops, and they are always half
price. Quite yummy, but stinks up the apartment.
Eric Takabayashi
> Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
> Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the gyuudon
> coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin,
The way many people and governments are banning foreign sources of beef after
the discovery of even one cow with BSE, or foreign poultry during the bird flu
scare, while not being careful enough about their own food supply, is
laughable. Canada, which did not place a ban on US beef, appears to be one
country to see the absurdity of attitudes like that of Japan and the US.
> or is this just a JP thing?
I believe it was 30 countries which have placed bans on imports of US beef, so
it is not just a Japanese thing, but the demands of the Japanese government on
resuming imports, or the continuing belief of many consumers that ONLY food
sold in Japan (despite being from global sources like their heavy metal and
dioxin laden seafood, particularly tuna, whale and dolphin; or domestic food
sources of dubious quality) is "safe" or "100% safe" are also ridiculous.
Japanese have such short memories of their own food scandals such as the mad
cow discovered right here in Fukuyama. Most claim not to even have heard of it
or do not believe it, while so uptight about American beef and other "foreign"
problems.
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>
> "Haluk Skywalker" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:c0e2lo$16f1mi$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > news:HQuWb.33801$bZ7....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > > Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
> > > Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
> > gyuudon
> > > coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or
is
> > > this just a JP thing?
> >
> > I recommend you to revise the last sentence as "Is the ban on US beef
into
> > Japan bothering any Amerikajin..." because as you sure know gaikokujin
!=
> > amerikajin.
> >
>
> While it is true that no people on earth eat as much beef as Americans,
America is close to the top, but there are several South American countries
where per capita beef consumption is higher.
The 2-Belo
>On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:02:18 +0900, Dave Fossett ...
>>
>>"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote:
>>
>>> Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
>>gyuudon
>>> coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
>>> this just a JP thing?
>>
>>It doesn't bother me at all, but I would wish supermarkets would take the
>>chance to start promoting lamb instead. All we get round here are those
>>frozen reconstituted slices sold for "Genghis Khan".
>>
>My local life usually has packets of 6 lamb chops, and they are always half
>price. Quite yummy, but stinks up the apartment.
I'm going to start going to the supermarket and asking for HORSE
Declan Murphy
I've been getting some nice lamb from "The meat guy". Probably only
worth it if you are going to eat a fair bit of it or have a good
freezer. FWIW.
Bryce
> >My local life usually has packets of 6 lamb chops, and they are always
half
> >price. Quite yummy, but stinks up the apartment.
>
> I'm going to start going to the supermarket and asking for HORSE
>
>
Pick up some panda meat or some type of baby seal meat!
Musashi
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>
> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
> news:fqwWb.33812$_d.2...@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Haluk Skywalker" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:c0e2lo$16f1mi$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > news:HQuWb.33801$bZ7....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
> > > > Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
> > > gyuudon
> > > > coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin,
or
> is
> > > > this just a JP thing?
> > >
> > > I recommend you to revise the last sentence as "Is the ban on US beef
> into
> > > Japan bothering any Amerikajin..." because as you sure know gaikokujin
> !=
> > > amerikajin.
> > >
> >
> > While it is true that no people on earth eat as much beef as Americans,
>
> America is close to the top, but there are several South American
countries
> where per capita beef consumption is higher.
>
Musashi
"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:HQuWb.33801$bZ7....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > Hello all of you nihon taizai no Gaikoku no okata.
> > Japanese TV (at least Fujiterebi) is going nuts with the end of the
> gyuudon
> > coverage. Is the ban on US beef into Japan bothering any Gaikojin, or is
> > this just a JP thing?
> >
>
> It would be an issue if I enjoyed eating fatty meat - since this is
> apparently why Austrian beef cannot be substituted for Sepponian beef -
I presume you mean "Australian" beef since the country where the city of
Vienna is
located and where Adolph Hilter was born, to my knowledge does not export
beef.
This is also a rather strange typo when considering that the word
"sepponian", presumably
from the Australian slang for Americas, appears in the same sentence.
>it's
> too damn lean. Japanese men like their fat - a claim I fully acknowledge
to
> be true dating from the first time I ever ate a Japanese-style piece of
> steak and was literally reaching for the water jug to help swallow whole
the
> pieces of lard on my plate.
I agree that the beef used in Japanese cooking is too fatty by American
standards.
However, that can be offset by the fact that "steaks" have never been
traditional but
the use of thinly sliced beef is more common, and in less quantities than a
"steak".
Musashi
Musashi
"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message
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Yes, Japanese don't really have a tradition of eating lamb, considering it a
大陸 thing.
Perhaps the SDF guys in Iraq will bring back a taste for lamb.
Musashi
"The 2-Belo" <the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> wrote in message
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Don't do that. You will end up with frozen horse meat imported from
Mongolia.
Get on a plane or shinkansen and get down to Kumamoto if you want good
Basashi.
The 2-Belo
[...]
>Get on a plane or shinkansen and get down to Kumamoto if you want good
>Basashi.
Believe it or not I had a friend of mine get me some of that as a お土産 a
number of years ago. People get really disgusted with me when I confess that I
love the stuff, but screw them.
Ryan Ginstrom
> Believe it or not I had a friend of mine get me some of that as a お土産 a
> number of years ago. People get really disgusted with me when I confess
that I
> love the stuff, but screw them.
I had a chuckle the other day when my wife was describing wild boar sashimi
to her sister. "Not quite as good as horse, but much better than beef." I
actually liked the boar better than horse, but horse runs a close second in
my book.
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"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been getting some nice lamb from "The meat guy". Probably only
> worth it if you are going to eat a fair bit of it or have a good
> freezer. FWIW.
>
> http://www.themeatguy.jp/
Have my price perceptions gotten totally out of whack, or is this pretty
expensive?
I do miss lamb though. My wife can't stand it, so we never have it at home.
But while my mom isn't the greatest cook, she could make some mean lamb
chops, and I do crave it from time to time. The overpriced, skimpy cuts of
lamb you find in "western" restaurants in Japan simply don't cut it.
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Brett Robson
Visisted my supermarket last night, admittedly it was late but there was no
Aussie or US beef and a few packs of pink fat labelled as WAGYU (Japanese beef).
Brett Robson
You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
Haluk Skywalker
news:c0kfl...@drn.newsguy.com...
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:18:49 +0900, Ryan Ginstrom ...
> >
> >
> >"The 2-Belo" <the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> wrote in message
> >news:402da719$0$3176$df06...@news.sexzilla.net...
> >>Believe it or not I had a friend of mine get me some of that as a
> >> number of years ago. People get really disgusted with me when I confess
> >that I
> >> love the stuff, but screw them.
> >
> >I had a chuckle the other day when my wife was describing wild boar
sashimi
> >to her sister. "Not quite as good as horse, but much better than beef." I
> >actually liked the boar better than horse, but horse runs a close second
in
> >my book.
> >
>
> You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
>
That shocked me too. I thought butaniku wasn't consumed as sashimi. Is this
in Okinawa?
Ryan Ginstrom
"Brett Robson" <jet...@deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:18:49 +0900, Ryan Ginstrom ...
sashimi
> >to her sister. "Not quite as good as horse, but much better than beef." I
> >actually liked the boar better than horse, but horse runs a close second
in
> >my book.
> >
>
> You ate raw wild pig?
Yes
> Are you nuts?
Yes
Are these two somehow related, you think?
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Ryan Ginstrom
> "Brett Robson" <jet...@deja.com>, iletide ţunu yazdý
> > You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
> >
>
> That shocked me too. I thought butaniku wasn't consumed as sashimi. Is
this
> in Okinawa?
Yes, this is Okinawa.
However, Japanese on the mainland eat inoshishi sashimi as well, they just
have less access to it.
Besides, it's not pig, it's boar. A lot of Japanese also like to eat bacon
"raw," but since bacon is cured I suppose you wouldn't consider it to be
truly raw.
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Louise Bremner
> You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
Is there any reason to believe that wild pig are subject to the same
problems as cultivated pig?
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Brett Robson
Notwithstanding my aversion to pig because of my religious upbringing, I would
have to say that eating boar is nuts.
At my (our) local yakitori place they serve sliced chicken fillets that have
been dipped in hot water leaving most of it raw, a (nameless) friend's
(nameless) daughter eats it. That too is nuts.
Chicken and pig meat are two of the most dangerous meats to eat raw.
basashi is digusting.
Brett Robson
>
>Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>
>> You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
>
>Is there any reason to believe that wild pig are subject to the same
>problems as cultivated pig?
>
At lot of the problems with cultivated pig is the environment they are in. But
boar are full of parasites, yuck.
Kevin Wayne Williams
> Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You ate raw wild pig? Are you nuts?
>
>
> Is there any reason to believe that wild pig are subject to the same
> problems as cultivated pig?
I know you can get trichinosis from raw polar bear meat. Since there
isn't a big demand for farm-fresh polar bear meat, I suspect there
aren't any cultivated polar bears, and that uncultivated animals get
trichinosis, too.
KWW
Declan Murphy
> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7506e9b6.04021...@posting.google.com...
> > I've been getting some nice lamb from "The meat guy". Probably only
> > worth it if you are going to eat a fair bit of it or have a good
> > freezer. FWIW.
> >
> > http://www.themeatguy.jp/
>
> Have my price perceptions gotten totally out of whack, or is this pretty
> expensive?
No idea - I haven't bought lamb anywhere else, and the local
supermarkets rarely have something I can compare prices with.
Declan Murphy
Time out for a gaigingo question:
Cultivated/Uncultivated animals? For some reason I thought that in
standard gaigingo crops were cultivated (and opera fans too I guess)
and animals were farmed? Would cultivated polar bears be a merkinism?
My Hokkaido omiyage includes 3 packets of (processed) deer, bear and
seal meat - I'm assuming that at least 2 of those are farmed.
Kevin Wayne Williams
> Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<AMTXb.14733$5W3....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
>
>>Louise Bremner wrote:
>>> cultivated pig?
>>cultivated polar bears,
>
> Time out for a gaigingo question:
> Cultivated/Uncultivated animals? For some reason I thought that in
> standard gaigingo crops were cultivated (and opera fans too I guess)
> and animals were farmed? Would cultivated polar bears be a merkinism?
I was just following the lead of a Kiwi. I would normally say
"domesticated", "farm raised", or "raised". Maybe "ranched" in a few
sentence constructions if we were talking about cattle.
KWW