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Racist Tokyo Governor calls Chinese "Stupid and Ignorant" !!! Japanese jealous of China Space Success !!! I Told You !!!

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GOD BLESS AMERICA

未読、
2003/11/02 12:24:482003/11/02
To:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20031102p2a00m0dm023000c.html

Japan finally admits that she is JEALOUS of China Space Success !!!

A RACIST Tokyo Governor, Shintaro Ishihara , calls Chinese "IGNORANT"
!!!

He said China's Space Rocket is an ancient Dinosour and Japan can beat
the shit out of China in one year !!!

I told you that the launch of China's space rocket has sparked HATE
and FEARS among Japan's population.

The following is a part of his speech :

"Japan has launched excellent rockets as symbols of high technology,"
he said in the middle of the speech in Ibusuki, Kagoshima Prefecture.
"But in China, people there were surprised to see a manned rocket
launched. They were pleased because they were ignorant."

GOD BLESS AMERICA

未読、
2003/11/02 12:25:172003/11/02
To:

Tuctowku

未読、
2003/11/02 21:03:422003/11/02
To:
They must be reminded that Japanese are the descendant of the Chinese from
Mainland China long long ago. Just take a good look at their writing. Half
Chinese character and the second half invented.


"GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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betelnut

未読、
2003/11/03 1:42:042003/11/03
To:

"Tuctowku" <tuct...@google.com> wrote in message
news:bo4d28$1525oc$1...@ID-71866.news.uni-berlin.de...

> They must be reminded that Japanese are the descendant of the Chinese from
> Mainland China long long ago. Just take a good look at their writing. Half

no no no. some people from china might have migrated to japan, via korea
and directly by boat. but there were already plenty of local inhabitants
living in japan since much earlier. cultural exchange doesn't require
massive migration of people. a few experts or scholars would do.

Carpe Diem

未読、
2003/11/04 13:18:342003/11/04
To:
On 11/2/2003 12:25:17, GOD BLESS AMERICA wrote:

> http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20031102p2a00m0dm023000c.html
>
> Japan finally admits that she is JEALOUS of China Space Success !!!

Where??

>
> A RACIST Tokyo Governor, Shintaro Ishihara , calls Chinese "IGNORANT"
> !!!
>

ignorant - unaware, or uninformed... do you remember SARS?



> He said China's Space Rocket is an ancient Dinosour and Japan can beat
> the shit out of China in one year !!!

I did not see the word "shit", but maybe they can build a better one in a
year, who knows.

>
> I told you that the launch of China's space rocket has sparked HATE
> and FEARS among Japan's population.
>

Really, I see no fear, or even that much hate. (besides the "normal" hatred
between the 2 countries)



> The following is a part of his speech :
>
> "Japan has launched excellent rockets as symbols of high technology,"
> he said in the middle of the speech in Ibusuki, Kagoshima Prefecture.
> "But in China, people there were surprised to see a manned rocket
> launched. They were pleased because they were ignorant."

Well at least you were able to cut-paste with no trouble. Proves you can do
something right!

--
Carpe Diem

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/04 18:18:502003/11/04
To:

"Carpe Diem" <wha...@you.com> wrote in message
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i can cut and paste too:

(|)
/ /
/ /
/
)) for you!


> --
> Carpe Diem
>


Carpe Diem

未読、
2003/11/04 21:51:562003/11/04
To:
On 11/4/2003 18:18:50, betelnut wrote:

>> Well at least you were able to cut-paste with no trouble. Proves you can
> do
>> something right!
>
> i can cut and paste too:

you have to prove it first :)

--
Carpe Diem

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/04 23:54:332003/11/04
To:
"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<0Nmpb.97$YN6...@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

> "Tuctowku" <tuct...@google.com> wrote in message
> news:bo4d28$1525oc$1...@ID-71866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > They must be reminded that Japanese are the descendant of the Chinese from
> > Mainland China long long ago. Just take a good look at their writing. Half
>
> no no no. some people from china might have migrated to japan, via korea
> and directly by boat. but there were already plenty of local inhabitants
> living in japan since much earlier. cultural exchange doesn't require
> massive migration of people. a few experts or scholars would do.

Maybe. But it is far more likely that the local Japanese inhabitants
(Jomon) got mixed with mass mainland immigrants around the Warring
States period in Chinese history (when many southern kingdoms faced
extermination by Qin and others, and went to Korea or left by sea for
Japan). Islanders got to come from somewhere. Old Jomon culture
definitely is not the major stock of Japanese today.

K. Chang

未読、
2003/11/05 0:33:162003/11/05
To:
spreading_...@yahoo.com (GOD BLESS AMERICA) wrote in message news:<d48745bb.0311...@posting.google.com>...

> He said China's Space Rocket is an ancient Dinosour and Japan can beat
> the shit out of China in one year !!!
>
> I told you that the launch of China's space rocket has sparked HATE
> and FEARS among Japan's population.
>
> The following is a part of his speech :
>
> "Japan has launched excellent rockets as symbols of high technology,"
> he said in the middle of the speech in Ibusuki, Kagoshima Prefecture.
> "But in China, people there were surprised to see a manned rocket
> launched. They were pleased because they were ignorant."


Haha. Japanese's "excellent rockets as symbols of high technology"???
I request Ishihara to check the status of Japan's H2A rockets. Many
people joke that Japan's space program is really just a 100 billion
dollar disguise for a deep sea expedition; as the miserable Japanese
rockets have certainly seen more ocean floors than space.

Since the successful manned space launch, China has sent up 3 (THREE)
satellites into their correct orbits. According to spacedaily.com,
they are functioning well. Japan, however, has just in the past week
lost its Midori-2 satellite (multimillion dollar satellite):

"Communications from Midori II were lost when the electricity supply
from the satellite's solar battery panels suddenly dropped
precipitously. Although agency researchers do not yet know what
caused the problem with the power source, it might be a systemic
problem since other satellites have also had power glitches."
Japan's Midori-1 was also a failure.


Japan's space program lags China's in all aspects.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/05 14:06:182003/11/05
To:

"Carpe Diem" <wha...@you.com> wrote in message
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my black friend ain't need to prove nothin'.


> --
> Carpe Diem
>


betelnut

未読、
2003/11/05 14:12:592003/11/05
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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doubt it. the japanese do speak their own distinctive language, totally
different than chinese. this alone shows that the migration of chinese to
japan had been very limited. if there was indeed massive migration,
considering how more advanced the chinese were, the japanese language would
most likely have been replaced by the chinese language. or at the very
least, there should be traces of chinese spoken language in japan, but
there's none.


brandon_z

未読、
2003/11/05 15:24:312003/11/05
To:
China is the major proilferator of nuclear material and missiles to
countries like Libya and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. But with islamic
uprising in Chinese provinces in full swing, many of these missile
will be aimed at China herself in the future.

Stupid Chinaman.

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/05 18:34:412003/11/05
To:
"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<

> doubt it. the japanese do speak their own distinctive language, totally


> different than chinese. this alone shows that the migration of chinese to
> japan had been very limited. if there was indeed massive migration,
> considering how more advanced the chinese were, the japanese language would
> most likely have been replaced by the chinese language. or at the very
> least, there should be traces of chinese spoken language in japan, but
> there's none.

There were many non-Sinitic speaking peoples in China during the
Warring States Period. Those that left, would reasonably maintain
their language; while those that stayed in the mainland, would
assimilate with the Sinitic peoples and lose their language, becoming
part of modern Chinese. With that said, the genetic overlap between
Japanese and Chinese does exist, and that the Warring States Period
exodus (directly by sea, or indirectly via Korea) is perhaps the best
explanation. Japanese Yayoi culture had many shared elements (as well
as mitochondrial DNA matches) with mainland tribes unearthed near the
Yangtze delta region. These tribes were non-Sinitic but they
inhabited portions of the Chinese landmass.

So the language argument is really insufficient.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/05 20:10:392003/11/05
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.03110...@posting.google.com...
> "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<
>
> > doubt it. the japanese do speak their own distinctive language, totally
> > different than chinese. this alone shows that the migration of chinese
to
> > japan had been very limited. if there was indeed massive migration,
> > considering how more advanced the chinese were, the japanese language
would
> > most likely have been replaced by the chinese language. or at the very
> > least, there should be traces of chinese spoken language in japan, but
> > there's none.
>
> There were many non-Sinitic speaking peoples in China during the
> Warring States Period. Those that left, would reasonably maintain
> their language; while those that stayed in the mainland, would

it cannot be assumed that only non-sinitic people fled to japan.

> assimilate with the Sinitic peoples and lose their language, becoming
> part of modern Chinese. With that said, the genetic overlap between
> Japanese and Chinese does exist, and that the Warring States Period

sure, but only enough to suggest the migration had been limited.

> exodus (directly by sea, or indirectly via Korea) is perhaps the best
> explanation. Japanese Yayoi culture had many shared elements (as well

> as mitochondrial DNA matches) with mainland tribes unearthed near the

i never denied the migration of people from china to japan.

> Yangtze delta region. These tribes were non-Sinitic but they
> inhabited portions of the Chinese landmass.
>
> So the language argument is really insufficient.

no less sufficient than other arguments.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/05 20:11:312003/11/05
To:
interesting.

"brandon_z" <brando...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Inferno XV

未読、
2003/11/06 7:31:262003/11/06
To:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:12:59 GMT, "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com>
wrote:

>doubt it. the japanese do speak their own distinctive language, totally
>different than chinese.

"different FROM", not "different than".

>this alone shows that the migration of chinese to
>japan had been very limited. if there was indeed massive migration,
>considering how more advanced the chinese were, the japanese language would
>most likely have been replaced by the chinese language. or at the very
>least, there should be traces of chinese spoken language in japan, but
>there's none.

There's actually quite a bit. Japanese is an Altaic language, but it
has a massive number of loanwords taken from Chinese at various
periods.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/06 17:16:002003/11/06
To:

"Inferno XV" <ky...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
news:ilfkqvcr5ng08dpse...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:12:59 GMT, "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >doubt it. the japanese do speak their own distinctive language, totally
> >different than chinese.
>
> "different FROM", not "different than".

it don't matter, as lone as people know wat i talk about.

> >this alone shows that the migration of chinese to
> >japan had been very limited. if there was indeed massive migration,
> >considering how more advanced the chinese were, the japanese language
would
> >most likely have been replaced by the chinese language. or at the very
> >least, there should be traces of chinese spoken language in japan, but
> >there's none.
>
> There's actually quite a bit. Japanese is an Altaic language, but it
> has a massive number of loanwords taken from Chinese at various
> periods.

japanese can learn these words from chinese buddhist scriptures alone. no
need for massive migration of chinese.

>
>
>


alibaba

未読、
2003/11/07 1:04:042003/11/07
To:
"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<AKzqb.1620$SQt.717@news01.

> japanese can learn these words from chinese buddhist scriptures alone. no
> need for massive migration of chinese.

Are you stupid? Chinese buddhist scriptures were mainly written using
fanqie characters ('fake' characters used only for their SOUND, not
their semantic meaning) that transcribed the Indian scriptures
syllable by syllable. This was also the predecessor for the Japanese
syllabries hiragana, katakana. Modern Japanese language uses Chinese
characters for semantic and phonetic functions (like in Chinese);
there are also characters in Japanese used ONLY FOR
ideographic/semantic purposes and read differently from the
character's INHERENT readings (this is not done in Chinese though).
There are only a few words that uses characters only for sound in
Japanese (while Chinese actually uses more). Unless Chinese scholars
went to Japan and explained what these characters meant semantically,
it would be impossible for the Japanese to later use these characters
in their semantic manner correctly just by having Buddhist scriptures
(since they were NONSENSICAL characters used for sound). Many Chinese
characters in Japanese also have several Chinese readings, because of
different periods of influence and exchange from different parts of
China.

Just shut up.

Musashi

未読、
2003/11/07 11:07:412003/11/07
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I hope goldfinger read this


betelnut

未読、
2003/11/07 15:42:362003/11/07
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.03110...@posting.google.com...

yes, that's what i meant. a FEW chinese scholars travel to japan (or
japanese scholars travel to china) with chinese books (buddhist scriptures,
porno, confucian classics, or whatever that's written in chinese), and that
would be enough for the japanese to borrow chinese written language. so
there was really no need for massive migration of chinese to japan.

> Just shut up.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/07 15:46:492003/11/07
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.03110...@posting.google.com...
> "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message
news:<AKzqb.1620$SQt.717@news01.
> > japanese can learn these words from chinese buddhist scriptures alone.
no
> > need for massive migration of chinese.
>
> Are you stupid? Chinese buddhist scriptures were mainly written using
> fanqie characters ('fake' characters used only for their SOUND, not

yeah mainly, not all. are you stupid?

Inferno XV

未読、
2003/11/08 0:11:222003/11/08
To:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:16:00 GMT, "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com>
wrote:

>japanese can learn these words from chinese buddhist scriptures alone. no
>need for massive migration of chinese.

The contention doesn't stand.

If this were so, it would be only a mainly religious vocabulary that
is derived from Chinese. How comes it that so many very basic words
are derived from Chinese:

Dragon.
Sky/Heaven.
Fortune.
Country.

These argue for a very close interaction with great numbers of Chinese
on Japanese soil, otherwise those words wouldn't have taken over the
original Altaic-origin words. It's just like how Armenian has so many
Persian loan-words that for centuries it was thought to be a member of
the Persian familiy of languages.

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/08 15:05:062003/11/08
To:
"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:
> enough to suggest the migration had been limited.

So you argue that the Japanese are divine, put onto those islands of
theirs by the sun god? Jomon and Ainu lived in Japan before the
mainlanders arrived; but the mainlanders (Yayoi) quickly overwhelmed
both Jomon and Ainu. The current stock of mongoloids in Japan is a
product of a recent migration (2500 years or so) from the mainland,
while Jomon and Ainu were older. In order to replace Jomon culture in
Japan, there must have been a massive migration from the mainland.
Either that, or the few but superior Yayoi people slaughtered most of
the former inhabitants. For both cases, modern Japanese are mainly
descendents of those who came to Japan in fairly recent times,
presumably just before the first unification of China under the Qin.

Shinji Ikehashi

未読、
2003/11/08 18:10:292003/11/08
To:
K. Chang wrote:
> Haha. Japanese's "excellent rockets as symbols of high technology"???
> I request Ishihara to check the status of Japan's H2A rockets. Many
> people joke that Japan's space program is really just a 100 billion
> dollar disguise for a deep sea expedition; as the miserable Japanese
> rockets have certainly seen more ocean floors than space.
>
> Since the successful manned space launch, China has sent up 3 (THREE)
> satellites into their correct orbits. According to spacedaily.com,
> they are functioning well. Japan, however, has just in the past week
> lost its Midori-2 satellite (multimillion dollar satellite):

Well, we've been launching rockets and satellites for over half a
century. H2A is just a new rocket that is more economical and efficient
than the counterparts in the past. However, Chinese rockets are mainly
the rebadged versions of Soviet rockets while Japanese rockets are
designed and built from the scratch. This makes the future expansion in
the Japanese space program more flexible and leaves more options,
including the launching of cost-effective reusable shuttles using H2A
rockets motor.

> "Communications from Midori II were lost when the electricity supply
> from the satellite's solar battery panels suddenly dropped
> precipitously. Although agency researchers do not yet know what
> caused the problem with the power source, it might be a systemic
> problem since other satellites have also had power glitches."
> Japan's Midori-1 was also a failure.

Satellite designing is different from rockets.

> Japan's space program lags China's in all aspects.

Japan just doesn't have the intention of sending humans into space
using 40-year-old technology.

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betelnut

未読、
2003/11/08 19:44:032003/11/08
To:
ok then. how about other chinese texts with written chinese on them?


"Inferno XV" <ky...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message

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betelnut

未読、
2003/11/08 19:46:002003/11/08
To:

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.03110...@posting.google.com...
> "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:
> > enough to suggest the migration had been limited.
>
> So you argue that the Japanese are divine, put onto those islands of
> theirs by the sun god? Jomon and Ainu lived in Japan before the
> mainlanders arrived; but the mainlanders (Yayoi) quickly overwhelmed

few migrants from the china area. mostly from mongolia, manchuria and
korea.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/08 19:48:292003/11/08
To:

"Shinji Ikehashi" <shi...@ttnet.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3fad77c5$1...@127.0.0.1...

> K. Chang wrote:
> > Haha. Japanese's "excellent rockets as symbols of high technology"???
> > I request Ishihara to check the status of Japan's H2A rockets. Many
> > people joke that Japan's space program is really just a 100 billion
> > dollar disguise for a deep sea expedition; as the miserable Japanese
> > rockets have certainly seen more ocean floors than space.
> >
> > Since the successful manned space launch, China has sent up 3 (THREE)
> > satellites into their correct orbits. According to spacedaily.com,
> > they are functioning well. Japan, however, has just in the past week
> > lost its Midori-2 satellite (multimillion dollar satellite):
>
> Well, we've been launching rockets and satellites for over half a
> century. H2A is just a new rocket that is more economical and efficient
> than the counterparts in the past. However, Chinese rockets are mainly
> the rebadged versions of Soviet rockets while Japanese rockets are
> designed and built from the scratch. This makes the future expansion in
> the Japanese space program more flexible and leaves more options,
> including the launching of cost-effective reusable shuttles using H2A
> rockets motor.

well you gotta make sure the H2A doesn't blow up first.

> > "Communications from Midori II were lost when the electricity supply
> > from the satellite's solar battery panels suddenly dropped
> > precipitously. Although agency researchers do not yet know what
> > caused the problem with the power source, it might be a systemic
> > problem since other satellites have also had power glitches."
> > Japan's Midori-1 was also a failure.
>
> Satellite designing is different from rockets.
>
> > Japan's space program lags China's in all aspects.
>
> Japan just doesn't have the intention of sending humans into space
> using 40-year-old technology.

it's not 40 years old. it's 40 years more advanced than what the russians
and americans used back then. it's much more reliable and safer.

Inferno XV

未読、
2003/11/08 22:12:452003/11/08
To:
Ok, you lost me there, can you rephrase the question?

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:44:03 GMT, "betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com>
wrote:

James Lynx

未読、
2003/11/09 12:54:062003/11/09
To:
"Tuctowku" <tuct...@google.com> wrote in message news:<bo4d28$1525oc$1...@ID-71866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> They must be reminded that Japanese are the descendant of the Chinese from
> Mainland China long long ago. Just take a good look at their writing. Half
> Chinese character and the second half invented.
>


And?

James Lynx

未読、
2003/11/09 12:56:002003/11/09
To:

Maybe so but these Chinese who went to what we call Japan today was
centuries ago which makes them too far removed to be anything like the
Chinese people. I am Chinese and have Japanese friends and I don't
see much in common between the two cultures other than half the
characters and noodles and rice. The two people were seperated so
many centuries ago I don't see any relation really.

James Lynx

未読、
2003/11/09 19:00:402003/11/09
To:
If the Tokyo Governor is a racist you can't be going by what he had to
say about the Chinese because the Chinese and the Japanese are in the
same race. You might call him prejudice or a biggot because he is
against another ethnic group but not racist based on this since he and
the Chinese are in the same race but different ethnic group. If he
said biggotted things towards the blacks or whites and so forth then
you could say he is a racist. So from what he said maybe he's a
biggot.

James

spreading_...@yahoo.com (GOD BLESS AMERICA) wrote in message news:<d48745bb.03110...@posting.google.com>...


> http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20031102p2a00m0dm023000c.html
>
> Japan finally admits that she is JEALOUS of China Space Success !!!
>

> A RACIST Tokyo Governor, Shintaro Ishihara , calls Chinese "IGNORANT"
> !!!
>

rage

未読、
2003/11/09 23:34:132003/11/09
To:
It could also be that Chinese were descendents of Japanese or any aliens..
since you were not there to witness the truth

"Tuctowku" <tuct...@google.com> wrote in message news:<bo4d28$1525oc$1...@ID-71866.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> They must be reminded that Japanese are the descendant of the Chinese from
> Mainland China long long ago. Just take a good look at their writing. Half
> Chinese character and the second half invented.
>
>
> "GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d48745bb.0311...@posting.google.com...

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/10 20:14:582003/11/10
To:
Safron...@yahoo.com (James Lynx) wrote in message
> I am Chinese and have Japanese friends and I don't
> see much in common between the two cultures other than half the
> characters and noodles and rice. The two people were seperated so
> many centuries ago I don't see any relation really.

Um. There are many things in common between the Chinese and Japanese
besides characters, noodles, and rice. Much of the so called
differences between Chinese and Japanese only came about because
Chinese culture underwent drastic changes after the Song dynasty. You
don't bow anymore mainly because of the overthrow of the imperial
court (ROC and PRC govts discouraged bowing); you don't use jingyu
(keigo, honorific speech) anymore because of the same political
reasons. You don't sleep and eat on the floor anymore because you
find it no longer comfortable. In terms of Confucian ethics and
aesthetic tastes, the Chinese and Japanese are quite similar (far far
more similar to each other than anyone else). A recent Chinese film
called POSTMAN IN THE MOUNTAINS (naren, nashan, nagou) was a boxoffice
hit (grossing in the millions) in Japan mainly because of its shared
aesthetic qualities and relatable family values.

"I don't see any relation really." That is perhaps the stupidest
statement for a Chinese to make. What do you consider as Chinese then?
Kungfu films and greasy Kungpao Chicken? Um, I don't think so.

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/10 21:58:122003/11/10
To:

"James Lynx" <Safron...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cc2aa629.03110...@posting.google.com...

> If the Tokyo Governor is a racist you can't be going by what he had to
> say about the Chinese because the Chinese and the Japanese are in the
> same race. You might call him prejudice or a biggot because he is

brits and spaniards are rather different even though they are both
"caucassians."

Makoto Taniguchi

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2003/11/11 4:27:152003/11/11
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"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<8fYrb.17557$HoK....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

> "James Lynx" <Safron...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cc2aa629.03110...@posting.google.com...
> > If the Tokyo Governor is a racist you can't be going by what he had to
> > say about the Chinese because the Chinese and the Japanese are in the
> > same race. You might call him prejudice or a biggot because he is
>
> brits and spaniards are rather different even though they are both
> "caucassians."

It's alright, they are too damned stupid to realize the fact that
Japanese and Cantonese/Mandrin is in a different linguistical family.
Japanese is related in a Tungusic class along with Mongolian, Korean
and the Inuits/Eskimos. While Cantonese and Mandrin is in a different
lingusitic family.

Racially, the Japanese for the most part are a combination of Jomon
and Yayoi people. In a lamen's terms Malay and Korean. Of course,
these Koreans most likely came from Mongolia. This basically shows
that the Chinese and the Japanese are NOT one in the same.

Just like Italian/Spanish are classified as Latin languages while
English/German is classified as Germanic.

Please stop making ridiculous claims when you obviously know nothing.

munched_a56

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2003/11/11 10:21:562003/11/11
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spreading_...@yahoo.com (GOD BLESS AMERICA) wrote...

> Japan finally admits that she is JEALOUS of China Space Success !!!

really? when? jealous? take my super pokemon kick, you stupid ugly chink.

munched_a56

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2003/11/11 10:41:502003/11/11
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china sucks, period.

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/12 0:27:592003/11/12
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"betelnut" <84...@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:<c7grb.219365$3f.

> few migrants from the china area. mostly from mongolia, manchuria and
> korea.

Idiot. Japanese are Altaic? BULLSHIT. Mongolia, Manchuria and
Korea before the Chinese migration did not eat rice. The fat, wet
rice that grows in Japan is specifically the rice that grows around
the Yangtze delta. Japanese are far more closer genetically
(mitchondrial DNA) to the Northern Han (specifically the Northern Han
around the Yangtse River as opposed to those in Beijing) than to
Mongolians, Manchurians, or Koreans. Get it? No.

ircirc

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2003/11/12 1:04:012003/11/12
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This debate about race in the Eastern Asia is moot. DNA Studies in
Korea have found that Koreans have at least 80% genetic similarity
with Chinese overall. And even higher if counting only the northern 3
provinces of China which have considerable ethnic Korean population.

If the Japanese really have the guts to claim they are different, they
should do a DNA analysis with both the Koreans and the Chinese to see
how much different they truly are. I doubt such a study will ever be
conducted in Japan for obvious reasons.

alibaba

未読、
2003/11/12 11:50:442003/11/12
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ircirc <ircirc> wrote in message
> This debate about race in the Eastern Asia is moot. DNA Studies in
> Korea have found that Koreans have at least 80% genetic similarity
> with Chinese overall. And even higher if counting only the northern 3
> provinces of China which have considerable ethnic Korean population.

Um. 80% genetic similarity means that a Chinese is about as similar to
a Korean as he is similar to a panda. You pulled that 80% out of your
ass. A chimpanzee has 98-99% genetic similarity with modern human
beings.

> If the Japanese really have the guts to claim they are different, they
> should do a DNA analysis with both the Koreans and the Chinese to see
> how much different they truly are. I doubt such a study will ever be
> conducted in Japan for obvious reasons.

Tests have been done. The Chinese are a lot closer to the Japanese
than to either the Koreans or the Manchurians. And many archaelogical
findings in China and Japan (burial mounds, castle ruins) by Japanese
and Chinese researchers further confirm the pre-history relation,
although the PRC govt has since banned further digging.

ardeedee

未読、
2003/11/12 12:24:282003/11/12
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Any studies for comparison with monkeys?

"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:6c5f1550.03111...@posting.google.com...

betelnut

未読、
2003/11/12 14:02:432003/11/12
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"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.0311...@posting.google.com...

japanese language, like korean, is altaic, no?

teaching the japanese rice cultivation doesn't require massive migration.
also, the altaics could've taught japanese rice cultivation after learning
from the chinese.

there's no trace of sinitic language in japan. none whatsoever. this shows
that there was never massive migration of sinitic people to japan.

betelnut

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2003/11/12 14:04:442003/11/12
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<ircirc> wrote in message news:gli3rvo6oe2aod85d...@4ax.com...

i wonder what the genetic similarity is between a "pure" mongolian and a
"pure" han chinese.

betelnut

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2003/11/12 14:08:042003/11/12
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"alibaba" <tsu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c5f1550.03111...@posting.google.com...

> ircirc <ircirc> wrote in message
> > This debate about race in the Eastern Asia is moot. DNA Studies in
> > Korea have found that Koreans have at least 80% genetic similarity
> > with Chinese overall. And even higher if counting only the northern 3
> > provinces of China which have considerable ethnic Korean population.
>
> Um. 80% genetic similarity means that a Chinese is about as similar to
> a Korean as he is similar to a panda. You pulled that 80% out of your
> ass. A chimpanzee has 98-99% genetic similarity with modern human
> beings.
>
> > If the Japanese really have the guts to claim they are different, they
> > should do a DNA analysis with both the Koreans and the Chinese to see
> > how much different they truly are. I doubt such a study will ever be
> > conducted in Japan for obvious reasons.
>
> Tests have been done. The Chinese are a lot closer to the Japanese

show me the undiputable tests then.

> than to either the Koreans or the Manchurians. And many archaelogical
> findings in China and Japan (burial mounds, castle ruins) by Japanese
> and Chinese researchers further confirm the pre-history relation,
> although the PRC govt has since banned further digging.

signs of transfer of culture doesn't prove there had been extensive
inter-breeding.


Dethlar2004: Blaq Action Hero

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2003/12/30 1:14:332003/12/30
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"K. Chang" <zen...@c4.com> wrote in message
news:1ffee964.03110...@posting.google.com...

> spreading_...@yahoo.com (GOD BLESS AMERICA) wrote in message
news:<d48745bb.0311...@posting.google.com>...

>
> > He said China's Space Rocket is an ancient Dinosour and Japan can beat
> > the shit out of China in one year !!!
> >
> > I told you that the launch of China's space rocket has sparked HATE
> > and FEARS among Japan's population.
> >
> > The following is a part of his speech :
> >
> > "Japan has launched excellent rockets as symbols of high technology,"
> > he said in the middle of the speech in Ibusuki, Kagoshima Prefecture.
> > "But in China, people there were surprised to see a manned rocket
> > launched. They were pleased because they were ignorant."
>
>
> Haha. Japanese's "excellent rockets as symbols of high technology"???
> I request Ishihara to check the status of Japan's H2A rockets. Many
> people joke that Japan's space program is really just a 100 billion
> dollar disguise for a deep sea expedition; as the miserable Japanese
> rockets have certainly seen more ocean floors than space.
>
> Since the successful manned space launch, China has sent up 3 (THREE)
> satellites into their correct orbits. According to spacedaily.com,
> they are functioning well. Japan, however, has just in the past week
> lost its Midori-2 satellite (multimillion dollar satellite):
>
> "Communications from Midori II were lost when the electricity supply
> from the satellite's solar battery panels suddenly dropped
> precipitously. Although agency researchers do not yet know what
> caused the problem with the power source, it might be a systemic
> problem since other satellites have also had power glitches."
> Japan's Midori-1 was also a failure.
>
>
> Japan's space program lags China's in all aspects.

Don't worry, everyone living outside of Tokyo thinks Ishihara is a moron,
but the denizens of the 3rd largest city in the world seem to dislike change
and will keep a bigot still living in the 19th Century as their mouthpiece.
This is the same guy that said that if a disaster broke out in Tokyo that
the foreigners would riot, though he made no mention of the scores of
Japanese hooligans, Bosozoku, young punks trying to catch the Yakuza's eye,
organized rape gangs, or any of the other homegrown trash that traipes
around Tokyo.


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