gaijin house or what...
Ronnie Corporon
their own apartment in Japan? my husband and i want to go teach in Japan for
a year and trying to figure out whats the cheapest way for
accomadations...we would probably be going through NOVA to get out there and
teach...so do you think it would be cheaper to go through them or live in a
gaijin house?
Julie
Bryce
stigma.
I heard that those big companies really screw you big on your housing
contracts. some "English teacher" in here might be able to bring you up to
date on that.
You have a lot less restrictions if you have your own apartment, or should I
say rat hut. If you can get into a 3LDK or bigger you'll feel okay. anything
smaller and it will work on your mind. If you know someone in Japan, maybe
you could advance some cash to them because you'll need to put down about
500,000 to 1,000,000 as deposit and first money (free cash for the owners).
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Michael Cash
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A very important point: Don't operate on the assumption that going
through McNova to get an apartment is your only alternative to a
gaijin house.
I don't know if they still do it, but McNova used to be fond of
sticking two or three teachers into one apartment....and charging each
of them the FULL rent for the place.
Bryce
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Ronnie Corporon
with anyone else but for financial reasons we might look into a gaijin
house, because, from research, most seem cheaper in the long run
Julie
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Dave Fossett
> You have a lot less restrictions if you have your own apartment, or should
I
> say rat hut. If you can get into a 3LDK or bigger you'll feel okay.
anything
> smaller and it will work on your mind. If you know someone in Japan, maybe
> you could advance some cash to them because you'll need to put down about
> 500,000 to 1,000,000 as deposit and first money (free cash for the
owners).
That sounds a lot, especially for the sort of places English teachers are
likely to be looking for. Zero reikin is now common, and shikikin
(returnable deposit) is usually only one or two months' rent these days.
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Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan
mr.sumo snr.
> My husband and i wanna live on our own, so i hope they wouldn't place us
> with anyone else but for financial reasons we might look into a gaijin
> house, because, from research, most seem cheaper in the long run
>
Don't top-post if you want objective advice. The 'individual' in this
thread who's doing it is trying to make a point - a sad point - but
nevertheless a point.
"my husband and i want to go teach in Japan for a year" is a pretty big
ballpark. If you can give some details about location - place name is
fine - then we can probably offer some more specific advice.
Getting here with NOVA may well be a means to an end but the general feeling
within the group towards NOVA is pretty hostile. I don't know if it's the
case still now - but in the past NOVA teachers were not permitted to
socialize with their students - in any circumstances - I'm talking not even
a cup of coffee after a lesson.
If you're coming over to make a quick buck, cut costs as much as possible,
make new gaijin friends etc. that's fine. If you're after a slightly more
foreign experience then get out into one of the rural cities - I live in
Hicksville but the city still has a population of 100,000.
Check out http://www.gaijinpot.com/ for jobs as well as Ohayosensei
http://tinyurl.com/pji1
Do a Google advanced search of this group too for yet more acidic comments,
speckled with the odd piece of useful advice.
--
jonathan
--
"never give a bonus to gaijin"
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"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message
For a 3LDK or bigger ?
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"Ronnie Corporon" <corpor...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> just wondering if anyone has experience living in both gaijin houses and
> their own apartment in Japan? my husband and i want to go teach in Japan
for
> a year and trying to figure out whats the cheapest way for
> accomadations...
A cheap gaijin house can be cheap, it's OK if you live like a hippy (really,
you'll see strangers in your bathroom every morning, they'll drink your tea
and wear your slippers, if you are lucky, they'll need to cross your
bedroom, to reach the toilets and they'll do it 4 times a night). If
that's your lifestyle, it's even cheaper to be a squatter and live for free
in the living-room of some gaijin-worshippers you meet in bars.
Gaijin houses that look like real flats or houses are more expensive.
To rent your own flat, you need to give about 4 months of rent in fees (real
estate agent fee + a key money that is a "present" to the owner) and pay 2
other months in advance (in average), plus you need a guarantor (a Japanese
male older than 40, or someone that owns a house. Employers can be
guarantors,
but if it's Nova, they do it only for employees they trust, not for for new
ones).
If you have no guarantor but can advance money, there are flats (weekly
mansions, etc) without guarantor and without key money. They are newer and
cleaner than gaijin houses.
Weekly mansions, like gaijin house have the basic furniture and equipment.
On the long run, renting a normal flat or house is the cheaper way, the rent
is about half of that of an equivalent gaijin house or weekly mansion. But
maybe for less than 2 or 3 years, it's not worth paying key money and buying
furniture and equipment.
>we would probably be going through NOVA to get out there and
> teach...so do you think it would be cheaper to go through them or live in
a
> gaijin house?
Nova owns 2 or 3 flats in Japan and rent them as gaijin house, they put the
rest of their teachers in other gaijin houses they don't own. Same sort of
price (that depends on location and on each place, some are only old, others
are in addition dirty and far from convenient stations so they are cheaper).
The gaijin houses you'd find on your own are the same Nova will propose you.
Don't listen to all of the horrors you hear about Nova. It's a factory, for
sure, but most of the times they are honest, they don't hire teachers
without visa, they don't make fake contracts, they pay the salaries on a
given day of the month, they don't sell stuff with your photo and name on it
without telling you, etc... It's not very common in the world of language
schools (I know quite a few of them). In Osaka, their salaries are above the
average. You quit them when you are tired of factory work, that's all.
Unless you have tons of money to waste (in that case you wouldn't need to
work), there is no way you rent a decent flat from where you are, you have
to visit the places. I'd be you, I'd ask Nova or whatever to find me a
gaijin flat for couple. You can quit it at the end of the first month if you
don't like it or think it's too expensive, and you'll be there to visit
other places.
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
> I don't know if they still do it, but McNova used to be fond of
> sticking two or three teachers into one apartment....and charging each
> of them the FULL rent for the place.
That's the definition of a gaijin house.
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